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12 Dec 2018 17:09:46
Matip out for 6 weeks with broken collar bone apparently.

Lovren and van djik need to stay fit then! i was actually really impressed with him last night too. hopefully trent and milner are okay.


1.) 12 Dec 2018 17:41:00
When did that happen? He played the full 90. we’re getting injuries at the wrong time.

2.) 12 Dec 2018 17:56:30
Testing times but I have confidence in Klopp to find the right fix. I’d love to see Fab have a game at RB, I know it’s not his preferred position but he plays it well enough for Brazil for me to want to have a look. Trent has the potent to be as flexible on the pitch as Millie so now could be his chance to fill some boots.

3.) 12 Dec 2018 18:47:04
I think it is to his credit he played for 90 minutes. Also he has played well in the last few games so will be a loss to the squad. Just hope Trent or Milner are fit.

4.) 12 Dec 2018 19:08:34
Wheres Klaven when you need him! :, (.

5.) 12 Dec 2018 18:47:04
I think it is to his credit he played for 90 minutes. Also he has played well in the last few games so will be a loss to the squad. Just hope Trent or Milner are fit.

6.) 12 Dec 2018 20:58:51
Do we have any of the u23s ready to step up if needs be? I don’t know enough about the players out side of the first team squad?

7.) 12 Dec 2018 21:51:54
I think Wijnaldum played cb last season?

8.) 12 Dec 2018 22:55:40
wouldn't be surprised of natty Phillips gets drafted in, klopp seemed to like him in pre season ed01 you think he could step up in a premier league game? Obvs not against United but the next game?

9.) 12 Dec 2018 22:59:41
What about Nat Phillips? he looked good in preseason.

10.) 12 Dec 2018 23:24:26
Kman, I think this happened right on the final whistle.

11.) 13 Dec 2018 00:11:38
Yeah Shents. It was his last aerial challenge with Koulibaly which was literally as the last whistle was going.

12.) 13 Dec 2018 00:16:23
So annoying when players that we wrote off start performing then they get injured, is it really then their fault when they go through those dead spells? Lallana, moreno, studge, matip.

13.) 13 Dec 2018 13:08:20
You have to feel for him, time on bench seemed to have elevated his game.



20 Jul 2016 10:42:09
Hi eds, hope you are well.

There are reports that atletico Madrid are interested in origi. Do you know if there is any truth to this? I hope it's nonsense I really like orogi. Has huge potential.




20 Jul 2016 10:42:09
Hi eds, hope you are well.

There are reports that atletico Madrid are interested in origi. Do you know if there is any truth to this? I hope it's nonsense I really like orogi. Has huge potential.


{Ed002's Note - He is certainly not first or second choice for them.}

1.) 20 Jul 2016 12:04:44
thanks for the reply ed, much appreciated.

lets hope they get their first or second choice.

2.) 20 Jul 2016 12:55:28
What about 3rd choice.



27 Jun 2016 13:51:29
afternoon eds thanks for all your time and effort. its much appreciated.

you have mentioned an interest in Bastien, is this Samuel Bastien? and hoping you could let us know who else is interested? I have tried the search function with no luck sadly

thanks eds.


{Ed002's Note - Anderlecht are keen to hold on to Samuel Bastien who has been on loan to Avellino but are aware of interest from a number of sides including Benfica (who have made an offer), PSV, Lille, Liverpool (Rodgers was keen on a deal right from the start of the season on the basis of youth scouting reports), Fiorentina and Genoa. Interest of Juventus has gone.}

1.) 27 Jun 2016 18:46:35
Thanks ed. Thought I would ask is it looks like we are definitely after a central midfielder.




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06 Sep 2018 13:45:27
Hi all. Hope everyone is well.

Was thinking about a couple of players currently unable to obtain work permits Allan, Arroyo ext. How is it that the championship and other lower leagues can have foreign players? How do they qualify for work permits?

Forgive me if this a stupid question.


{Ed002's Note - Do you have particular players in mind?}

1.) 06 Sep 2018 16:24:03
There are plenty of ways to qualify, just like anyone coming to the UK.

Most will of course be from other EU countries with the right to free movement. A large portion of the rest will be naturalised British citizens (or other EU country citizens) even if they do not represent the country that nationalised them e. g. if Sterling had chosen to play for Jamaica, he would still be a naturalized British citizen with the right to live and work here. In some EU countries, they will accept as naturalized citizens people with fairly distant genetic links so this is a surprisingly big group.

Then there are those who are from other countries that the UK has free or relatively free movement between e. g. Canada, where you can work for 2 years with no work permit and will usually be granted a work permit if you can prove consistent skilled employment throughout that time.

And a final small number will qualify for a working visa under the normal conditions required for footballers which Ed002 has previously explained in detail and would be easier to look up than read my ham-fisted explanation.

And there we have it - the many ways that footballers of the world might be allowed to play in the English League structure. don't think I've missed any but happy to be corrected.

2.) 06 Sep 2018 17:20:33
Hjikle, great knowledge, let me pose the question in another way.

Does any reader of these pages ever expect Taiwo Awoniyi, Allan Rodrigues or Anderson Arroyo ever to make a first team appearance for our club? The first two are in their fourth season on our books and are as far away from a work permit as the day they arrived.

3.) 06 Sep 2018 20:30:33
Hjikle that was a good answer and hopefully the op will be able to read Edds comments.

4.) 07 Sep 2018 12:21:25
Hi ed, had a look and examples could be Lusaka of Birmingham or Evandro of hull.

{Ed002's Note - I can't help with Lusaka as I don't know who the player is but checking the Exceptions Panel records it shows Evandro is a Serbian national and was confirmed via the Exceptions Panel based on his playing for senior European sides at the highest level. This was deemed an acceptable proposal from the club. So I still really don't get your point about other divisions - the rules are straightforward and have been revised in recent years.}

5.) 07 Sep 2018 20:17:08
Wasn't trying to make a point just gain a better understanding thanks hjikle. Appreciate the info.



25 Aug 2018 20:40:47
Not the best performance today, a few nervy moments but got the 3 points, and that's what matters! Brighton proved to be difficult to break down today and credit to Chris hughton.

Passing was off, lacked that bit if fluidity. I think it's clear some players aren't 100% fit. But we ground out the result and made the 1 clear chance count. Brilliant finish! Roll on Leicester!


1.) 25 Aug 2018 21:29:16
Agreed mate last season we beat palace at home an were lucky also drew with Burnley and west Bromwich Albion rubbish happens, athletico Madrid jus beat rayo vallecano 1-0 at home it's not always going to b pretty an it's not just us all teams in all leagues.

{Ed0333's Note - I think the fitness issue is more pertinent than the performance one. We know this team is capable of magic it’s gonna take a few more games before the lads will produce the swashbuckling stuff we know their capable of. It’s clear to see some of them are not match fit.

2.) 25 Aug 2018 21:46:51
Wijnaldum played really well again today. He is making it very hard for Klopp to leave him out.

3.) 25 Aug 2018 21:59:19
Agreed Wirral Gini was good today. He has had a good start to the season and I hope he continues to prove me wrong.

4.) 25 Aug 2018 22:16:42
Soz ed I found it the player profile.

5.) 25 Aug 2018 22:03:20
Yes ed I agree totally b nice when fabihno can slot in and keita fully at home, I still think we needed a dependable deputy for bobby though as we need variety, I love the idea of sturridge but hate the reality that at any moment he can break down with injury when putting a shift in when we need him most, can u help me do u have a player profile section.

{Ed0333's Note - when and if Sturridge goes on to the treatment table we have Shaq who can operate across the front three positions. I would have bought on Shaqiri before Sturridge today but it all worked out in the end. I just feel Sturridge is a trifle greedy and shoots when electing to pass would be a better option. Maybe I’m being over critical. But to be fair it’s great to see Sturridge playing and fit.

6.) 25 Aug 2018 22:37:25
Big big big difference in watching a team perform like this under a new manager going he will have them playing properly soon, give it time.

To you know exactly what this team is capable of, how good they are and how much stronger we are than last year.

Not a worry in the world.

Just keep getting the points boys

This might just be the defenses first 3 months and the attack can lead it after that!

7.) 25 Aug 2018 23:52:05
Have to agree about Sturridge seeming selfish ed - preseason he was dropping in, holding onto to the ball and bringing others into play. Today he just seemed intent on shooting.

{Ed0333's Note - I just think he’s eager to impress and stake a claim. When he came on it was better to play percentage passes rather than those shots with a low back lift with a defender on you and trying to squeeze the ball into a tight space in the goal. I just thought it would have been more beneficial to bring Shaqiri on to inject a bit of dynamism and stretch them a bit more but Studge scored with his first touch last week and I’m sure he had a good week training.

8.) 26 Aug 2018 08:55:23
totally agree yesterday was perfect to give Shaqiri 20 mins to lift the pace. Firmino hasn't got started yet and Mane was poor yesterday.

9.) 26 Aug 2018 09:30:35
The only thing I can think of is he is tested Shaqs attitude.

Will he continue working hard in training and stay positive even when h3a not getting picked especially in games he should at least be getting 2o minutes in.

Otherwise klopp is still no better in his subs. Got rid of klavan and now brings Matip on 😓 honestly cannot b3 doing with that.



25 Aug 2018 15:56:03
Having a conversation earlier about 3pm kick offs and was hoping the eds could shed some light on it.

I was if the understanding that an agreement in the 1960's to not televise 3oclock games to ensure fans attended games, and therefore increased revenue.

Now in 2018, televising games would help revenue we all know how lucrative the tv deals are, is there any particular reason as to why this rule has bit been looked at? Why has this has this stayed in place all this time? Does this happen elsewhere in Europe?

I'm doubtful this would impact attendances at the ground, ask any real fan and they would rather be at the game cheering in their team, not in the couch but would make it easier for those on the UK to follow their teams.

Thanks in advance eds and reds.

P. s glad to see salah back, read your post on your return. Fantastic attitude mate Hope your on the mend pal.


{Ed002's Note - It has been looked at and the clubs don’t want it changed, and there would be nothing but a loss in revenue for the clubs as there would not be additional money, but it would need to be spread thinner - effectively equally in all divisions. A number of the clubs see a future in alternate media, streaming etc..}

1.) 25 Aug 2018 16:28:26
You would have to instantly lower match day prices.

Germany is something like 22 to go to the game and 12 to watch it at home.

If it was 50 to go and 10 to watch in the comfort of your own home, especially when it's wet and freezing or your team is doing particularly badly. I'm not worried for liverpool but teams like Everton, Bournemouth, Yeovil would suffer hugely.

To be fair Maccies happy meals could be abit of good business 4 chickens nuggets, fries, coke and a match ticket for goodison. 2.69 might be a little pricey thinking about it 🤣.

2.) 25 Aug 2018 19:28:04
You've also got to think about the lower league clubs. I go and watch my local team at 3pm on Saturday but if I could stay in and watch the reds I'd be indoors. Same with about 50% of the other supporters in that stadium.
Lots of lower league clubs will go out of business.

3.) 25 Aug 2018 20:28:24
Completely understand your points. Ed has mentioned the pan Europe in league, this would require a restructuring the league's. Maybe we will see it then. But I think that will be the day football stops being special.

4.) 25 Aug 2018 21:01:34
In 20 years the pan league will happen.

In 50 years they will look back on the decision that destoyed football.

Simply put.

5.) 25 Aug 2018 21:40:14
Agrees Klopps boss.

6.) 25 Aug 2018 22:06:07
no problem Kloppboss I will be dead by then.

{Ed002's Note - It will be discussed again this coming week.}

7.) 25 Aug 2018 22:19:31
Nonsense. It might not be the same for the few hundred thousand that go to the matches, but it won't change too much for the few hundred million watching on TV. There will be more non professional teams for those who hark back to the good old days to go and watch live, but for everyone else there will still be high quality sporting spectacles to watch every week. It's an internationally followed sport, and time people realised it, embraced it and got used to the idea of it. Otherwise, you might as well chuck out your computers and mobile phones, your electric lighting and pot noodles and your funky automobiles. Times change, get used to it.

{Ed002's Note - It is rather naive to expect football to be converted to entirely free per view or pay per view. Either way the clubs will lose out.}

8.) 25 Aug 2018 22:54:24
You can stream any game anyway. What’s the difference?

{Ed002's Note - The difference is the clubs would lose the largest part of their income.}

9.) 25 Aug 2018 23:59:37
But is that a problem ed? Don't these things even out to match the market place? I mean, if too many people stream for free then the cost of watching will have to reduce and surely club budgets would have to adhere to the financial constraints of whatever the TV revenue was. I certainly don't imagine clubs agreeing to pay per view deals where income can't be predicted accurately. I also don't expect free football at all, officially speaking, but they need to price it so people watch it otherwise what's the point?

{Ed002's Note - It would be a major problem for clubs to lose that income. Clubs like Liverpool rely on it and yet still are building debt at a significant rate - if you don’t have the income then you can’t borrow to build the debt that some clubs are happy to accept. If there is no deal with the likes of Sky then who will provide the OB and transmission - you want to watch Liverpool on cellphone clips on Facebook whilst the club is being financially crippled - then that is the way to go.}

10.) 26 Aug 2018 06:24:37
In the NFL games are only shown on tv in the area when it’s a sell out, so the premier league could work on that basis when showing a Saturday at 3:00 game?

{Ed001's Note - the NFL doesn't have a lower league system to worry about, it is not the same and would not help matters. The Premier League is not the issue.}

11.) 26 Aug 2018 10:15:47
Argh my browser just reset and I lost my rather elongated reply (lucky eds) . I'll do what the tabloids do and leave out all the details which hold any weight and instead I'll just give you a dodgy analogical quote. As Jeff Goldblum said in Jurassic park, "Life, uhh, finds a way".



09 Aug 2018 21:10:17
Hi ed001. Really looking forward to the transfer window review when you get round to it!

That's if you still plan on doing it mate.


{Ed001's Note - yes mate, will start it today at some point.}

1.) 10 Aug 2018 07:22:52
Is it still today Ed?

2.) 10 Aug 2018 07:22:52
Is it still today Ed?

{Ed001's Note - I will start writing it today, not sure how long it will take, depends on how busy I am with editing mate.}



06 Aug 2018 21:13:28
I know it's not Liverpool related and it's early days but everyone seems very impressed with bielsa at Leeds. BBC live chat said during the game "pressing is unbelievable if Joe Allen gets pushed further back he will be back in 2016 playing for Liverpool"

Looks like ed001 was right. Exciting season at Leeds!


1.) 07 Aug 2018 05:41:27
I didn't see the Leeds match but some of the reports were eulogising over their performance, claiming it was better than anything Wolves produced last season.
It would certainly be good to see them back in the Premier League and particularly with Bielsa at the helm.

{Ed001's Note - it depends on how you judge it I think. Leeds were fantastic but with a much lower quality of player than Wolves managed it with last season.}

2.) 07 Aug 2018 06:29:01
That's interesting. The system or the player?
I suppose that's an endorsement of the manager too.

If I were a betting man, also, I'd have a score on Everton getting turned over at Wolves on Saturday. That is not an opening fixture that anyone would have chosen.

3.) 07 Aug 2018 07:47:55
Are Leeds going to keep this energy up for 45 more games? It’s a tough old league.

{Ed025's Note - my worry would be bielsa walking away ron, a very volatile character who is temperamental and the leeds board are hardly famed for their tolerance or willingness to compromise now is it..

4.) 07 Aug 2018 08:17:52
Thanks Tris, cracking read as always! Just curious why Gary bowyer would walk after one game, you able to shed any light on the ongoings there?

{Ed001's Note - it is all about the owner Owen Oyston.}

5.) 07 Aug 2018 08:59:16
Would you like to have seen some our players loaned to Leeds ed, to work under him?

{Ed001's Note - yes mate, very much so. They would have learnt so much working with him. Alexis Sanchez, for instance, was transformed by working with him as part of the Chile set up. He was always extremely talented but the work ethic was a result of his time with Bielsa.}

6.) 07 Aug 2018 09:06:24
I watched Leeds on the weekend. They played some lovely football.

7.) 07 Aug 2018 09:13:15
From what I understand from the couple of Leeds fans I know, they are hoping the leeds board will be a bit more tolerant of a manager that has the credentials to throw his weight around a little, rather than the middleweight managers hoping to do a little better than usual.

8.) 07 Aug 2018 09:47:56
I still can't believe he's in the Championship. I'd love to see him take a low to mid Premier League team and get them playing with courage and attacking a bit, showing the others the way some more and pressing the top teams to break the stratus quo. Who knows, maybe he stays the season, Leeds get promoted and he carries on in the same vein next season.

9.) 07 Aug 2018 10:14:42
I’d love to see what he could do at Newcastle.

10.) 07 Aug 2018 10:26:18
Do you mean in the board room Ron? Mike Ashley is quite a large fella, but I think he'd come off worse.




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20 Jul 2018 16:12:24
ed2 said in the sharkapod that spurs hold an interest and an enquiry quickly got knocked back. if it was as simple as paying 30m im sure spurs would have been more persistent with it.


{Ed002's Note - Any release clause is of no relevance.}



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15 Jul 2018 16:27:51
I would prefer butland over navas. Think if we can keep him injury free he could be a top keeper.




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14 Jul 2018 14:44:11
Kloop has confirmed he us going on loan.




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13 Jul 2018 20:01:19
Quite a move from port vale.




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14 Apr 2018 13:00:59
Thanks ed. The hope would be that he could surprise a few like dele alli I did. But will keep an eye on him.





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13 Dec 2018 10:40:04
thanks ed! Matip has really impressed me this season. he does try and make something happen with the ball at his feet. and his aggression is much improved. gutted for him. an excellent performance from everyone and pleased for the midfield three in particular because the reaction to the team was really negative!

if we play anywhere near as well on Sunday we should get the 3 points!


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03 Dec 2018 16:04:52
wow sports is good. quick download always get the option of about 5 or 6 links for the big games.




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03 Dec 2018 13:22:10
I understand and agree with some of Ed2's points. But you also have to look at the positives. Klopp has got us playing more consistently in the league. This is out best start for god knows how many years. He has had to fold on the financial aspect of buying players but he doesn't decide the fees. The two European finals he has got us two have been lost due to individual errors, kariius and moreno. Both players have now been replaced 1 in particular at great cost. So far appears to be a great investment.

We have since buvac left began with a more measured and unfortunately less exciting approach however I believe this is 100% more sustainable over an entire season and could ultimately lead to more success. I think it's too soon to put this solely down to his departure, as I'm not sure what lead to it He seems to have a good rapport with the players.

In regards to solanke and grujic fully agree that this was a mistake and one he should learn from. Tapping up players is totally unacceptable and meant we had to issue an embarrassing apology in 1 case. This should have meant the club have give him a very stern warning. The goalkeeping situation was messy and has now been resolved.

All in all klopp is far from perfect but he has improved us year on year and as long as the fans have hope that he can bring success I for do, he will stay. We are currently competing against one of the best teams in the premier League era and aren't far off, 1 game away from qualification to he last 16 for the seconds consecutive year from a really tough group. There have been bad moments but I'm hoping he has learnt from his mistakes and we can bring a trophy back.




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25 Nov 2018 10:28:26
Interesting to see we are 10th on the wage list. More proof the owners are more than willing to invest in the squad. Although I do expect a few outgoings soon.




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23 Nov 2018 15:21:56
youve mentioned richarlison ed, wouldn't mind seeing one of him if he isn't on the list already? i don't get to see much of the blues so would like to see what all the raving is about?


{Ed001's Note - I did do one last season, but it needs updating as I forgot to include his tendency to dive, which has become even more prominent this season.}