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12 Mar 2017 13:26:14
Just seen that Klopp said he had no plans to bring in a new keeper this summer. There are three possible translations as I see it.

1. He's doesn't want to show his hand at this stage of the season and is shooting who's available.

2. He's happy with Migs and Karius competing.

3. He plans to replace Migs with Ward.

If it's option 2 I'll be disappointed, we want a better keeper than Migs and Karius may not be the answer. If he isn't it will be 5 seasons without a good enough keeper. Option 3 is interesting but still a gamble, we don't know if Ward will make the grade either. I hope Klopp is being coy and keeping his options open.

PutneyRed

1.) 12 Mar 2017 13:52:14
Or it could be that Klopp wants rid of Mignolet and then have Karius as no 1, Ward no 2 and Manninger no 3.

If Karius is not going to get a proper shot at being no 1 then obviously we will not know whether he is the answer and signing a new keeper may not be the answer either unless he is given more than a handful of games to prove himself? So best solution in this situation is to give Karius a chance.


2.) 12 Mar 2017 13:53:11
The problem is not the keeper but the lack of DM and a decent defence.

Both are decent and Karius should be given more time (and patience from the so called fans) .


3.) 12 Mar 2017 13:59:23
Karius is our No.1 from the day we signed him and it has not changed due his bad performances.


4.) 12 Mar 2017 19:26:12
Interesting that our "number 1" can't get in the team.
He's clearly not "number 1" at the moment.


5.) 12 Mar 2017 20:39:09
Ron, Mignolet will be number one till the end of the season. Let's see whether he is going to be happy when he is sitting on the bench start of next season.

Klopp made a mistake to bring back Mignolet but it seems like it will work in his favour. It could be that Klopp tells him he should find another club once the season has ended. No number 1 wants to be told that. Ed002 has said on quite a few occasions that the club want rid and that Karius was signed to be no 1.


6.) 12 Mar 2017 21:01:20
How can he be "number 1" yet dropped for months?
He's back up to Mignolet, Klopp rates Mignolet higher.

{Ed002's Note - No, Klopp told Karius, Mignolet and the World that Karius is number one.}


7.) 12 Mar 2017 21:07:59
What can he say with 10 games left? "My goalies are awful, I want new ones"?

But old Jürgen is shrewd, and with Migs doing ok he can count on a pretty penny should he decide to sell, if the right keeper is available to replace him or if Karius is seen as settled.

If Karius needs more time or no really great keeper comes available Migs will be a decent option next year too.


8.) 13 Mar 2017 00:14:24
Karius is our number 1 the same way Sakho is our number 3.
Doesn't mean he's first choice.


9.) 13 Mar 2017 07:12:09
Clearly Karius is our no 1, that's the number on the back of his kit! Lol.


10.) 13 Mar 2017 13:34:22
So some think that mignolet is only being played in the first team to put him on the transfer market? I'm not so sure about that although it's an unlikely probability. I think Klopp is just taking the more practical approach, Karius did not settle well, and has been shaky with a number of the opportunities he had been given at the start of the season. Mignolet who was the more experienced premier league goal keeper was the only one he could turn to, not ideal by any stretch but a better option for goalkeeper at the time. Whilst we would never know if Karius would have been better in goal given the same games, mignolet has done alright. I wouldn't be surprised at either outcome in the summer, however I'm just not convinced by either of them. I think Karius was a poor choice to begin with but I think we decided to build a keeper rather than buy an established one which is a mistake we keep making, a never ending loop of purchasing players with potential that either never live up to it or never get the chance.


11.) 14 Mar 2017 06:39:50
No top keeper is going to sign for LFC, especially with Real sniffing round and add in City likely to be shopping around. So the choice is buy a second tier or a younger one with some experience, lots of potential and the understanding will need to bring him through. I thought the latter was why Karius was signed.


12.) 14 Mar 2017 12:40:21
Freshst- there is more than one top keeper in the world. They won't all sign for Real. City have already bought Bravo, are they going to ditch him?


13.) 14 Mar 2017 16:37:48
If de Gea moves to Real you can expect united to throw money at a replacement. Ditto Courtois leaving Chelsea or Loris leaving Spurs. Just my view but I see City looking for another keeper in summer as well. Hart seems to be saying he doesn't expect to be there and Bravos hasn't worked out.


 

 

10 Jan 2017 16:34:54
Hi Ed2, there are reports that Liverpool have set a price for Sakho's sale (effectively getting their outlay back) . Is the interest in Sakho high enough that clubs will pay a large fee or is it more likely that Liverpool will end up accepting a nominal fee to get him off the books?

PutneyRed

{Ed002's Note - I would think the answer is between the two. Liverpool want to sell rather than loan Sakho to another side. Sevilla and, perhaps, Roma may well seek a loan to buy deal for Sakho in January but the issue will be his wages. Sevilla remain interested but I understand Liverpool want to sell rather than loan him out and the asking price is seen to be very high indeed. Roma's interest will be there if they lose a centre back in January but are resisting the temptation to commit to buying a replacement at this time and want to take Sakho on loan. Besiktas and Galatasaray are not of interest to the player. Lyes Ghilas and Niakate Housseyni have both been spoken to by the club and they should be looking for a new home for the player but for now Housseyni is insistant that Sakho stays and if that is the case he will no doubt be spending his time looking for the deal that suits them and not Liverpool for the summer. Housseyni has been told that the club expect to recover their investment in him. Ghilas offered the player to a representative of Marseilles whilst they were both at meetings with Chelsea but they have no interest in him. Stoke have discussed a loan with his agent but have said they would need to have Liverpool pay half his wages. The player has said that he wants a high-end side and that will likely rule out any interest from the player in clubs such as West Brom and West Ham who have both enquired with Housseyni. If Southampton were to lose both van Dijk and Fonte during January then they might also consider a loan. So it is a case of looking to a deal with Sevilla or Southampton and perhaps being more reasonable about the price and not demanding £20M or so.}


1.) 11 Jan 2017 08:07:04
Just in case you didn't see my first reply, just wanted to say thanks for the in-depth reply.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}


2.) 13 Jan 2017 00:38:05
And that ladies and gentlemen is why this site rocks. Ed02.take a bow son. what a reply.


 

 

 

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26 Jun 2017 07:15:26
HI eds, I'm in dangerous territory of asking a question that's been addressed before but I'm wondering if you believe that Liverpool have the resources to pay £70m+ on a single player? Even with the new TV money doubling our record transfer seems a stretch.

PutneyRed

{Ed002's Note - Try the search engine.}


 

 

19 Jun 2017 16:53:30
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Aubameyang only turn world class after Klopp left?

PutneyRed

1.) 19 Jun 2017 17:19:25
Yes, it was like a switch. One day mediocre, one day world class.


2.) 19 Jun 2017 17:32:09
Here's our method for improving Clyne and Lovren right there.


3.) 19 Jun 2017 17:33:14
Zed on form today mate 😂😂.


4.) 19 Jun 2017 18:02:57
Aubameyang was already a rising star at St. Etienne. Everybody knew he had it. Much like Mbappe now. It was just a question of time and him finding a higher profile time for him to develop.


5.) 19 Jun 2017 18:30:13
Trying to make a serious point here guys, looking at the records he didn't become the goal machine he is now until after Klopp left. Everyone's assuming he'd be awesome because Klopp's used him before but if Klopp couldn't get the best of him then why would anything have changed now? I doubt we're even an option for him but it could be a very expensive mistake to go after him.


6.) 20 Jun 2017 06:22:03
Putney all I will say is let's players developmental curves are not linear.


 

 

06 Jun 2017 11:33:08
Southampton reporting us for tapping up VVD. Here we go again :- (.

PutneyRed

1.) 06 Jun 2017 11:39:36
Surely Man City should be reported aswell then? weren't they in discussions like us?


2.) 06 Jun 2017 11:37:14
All of the Eds are aware of VVD's willingness to join Liverpool and tapping up was not presented as a concern. Surely Southampton are just being desperate.


 

 

03 Jun 2017 23:12:09
I think the Can rumours may have legs, there are a lot of ifs to my train of thought but consider the following. IF Klopp keeps the set up the same next season then Can is looking at one of three positions in the team. IF Hendo stays fit then he gets one of them. IF Couts plays more centrally then he gets another. That leaves Can up against Lallana, Wiji and Grujic for the last spot and that's before we sign Keita or anyone else.

Can risks going into next season as a backup or rotation player and I would understand if he wanted more than that. I wouldn't be surprised if he's checking out his options before signing the new contract.

PutneyRed

1.) 04 Jun 2017 00:00:51
Can will be a better player than Henderson in the deeper role going forward.


 

 

24 May 2017 13:10:31
The Clyne bashing on this site is reaching absurd levels, somebody posted today that he's been stealing a career. Not only is that ridiculous but it's downright insulting to a guy who's given nothing less than 100% in his three years with the club.

I respect the view that right back is a position we could improve on but Clyne is not a terrible player. The way people on here talk about him makes it sound like he trips over his feet every time the ball comes near him.

Clyne is one of, if not, the best athletes I've seen at the club. He's solid defensively, composed on the ball and tidy in possession. His weakness is in the final third but seeing how he's a defender that's not the biggest sin. We might have a new right back next season but don't set your expectations too high. There are few managers in the world who ask as much from their fullbacks as Klopp so anyone we bring in is going to find the going tough.

PutneyRed

{Ed002's Note - He is a Liverpool player - what do you expect here.}


1.) 24 May 2017 13:23:44
1 assist all year, no goals- stats don't lie
Need an improvement
Supporters are entitled to air their opinions about any player
Criticism doesn't equate to bashing.
I'm sure if he stays on we will continue to support him but if a player has weaknesses and areas where he needs improving we shall continue to point this out.


2.) 24 May 2017 13:30:39
I think with some players it gets to the point that no matter what they do that is right, certain fans' opinions have been set. Also many have, unknowingly, a herd mentality. Once criticism of a player becomes the norm it's easy for anyone with a criticism to post and harder for anyone with a positive view to go aginst the flow and express it.


3.) 24 May 2017 13:31:09
Spot on, Putney. But Mingnolet has improved now, Moreno has been benched and Can scored a wonder goal. If Clyne moves on in the summer it could be Woodburns turn next.


4.) 24 May 2017 13:34:49
Supermane

He is a left back not a winger. There are plenty of other full backs who haven't scored at all this season.

{Ed001's Note - but he also can't defend. Solid defensively would mean he was not targeted by every opposition manager as a weak link. Unfortunately Clyne is deficient defensively. He is a good athlete but he can't leap, which creates another issue as long crosses towards his side of the pitch are a danger. His positioning is poor, which doesn't help, as he always gets drawn in too narrow and so is having to backpedal to try and get to a deep header.

He is a good athlete, he does give his all, but he is simply not good enough and has to be replaced. We can't keep carrying players that have to be pushed out of the box on set pieces as they are utterly unable to do anything other than get in the way when we are defending them.

The guys you want outside the box are attackers who can burst forward and threaten an opposing team, meaning they have to keep players back to cover against a break. We have to put Clyne there, meaning teams are able to put an extra body in the box.}


5.) 24 May 2017 14:32:17
Putney,

As it's my post that has clearly got you riled, I'll expand a little.

Clyne is technically poor, has very little in the way of a footballing brain and is lacking in positional sense. His speed/ athleticism gets him out of jail on occasions, which leads a lot of people into believing that he is defensively sound.

He offers absolutely nothing in terms of an outlet, repetitively taking the easy option and passing the ball back inside to Matip/ Can, instead of trying to exploit the space afforded to us in wide areas, particularly by the lesser teams who generally sit deep and narrow.

Anything played forward is usually a hopeful clip down the line into space. Having played to a fairly decent standard, you know when you're a little bit out of your depth, and it's probably affecting his confidence on the ball.

He also disrupts our tempo at times, as his technical deficiencies aren't conducive to one touch interchanges around the edge of the box or swift counter attacking football, often slowing down the play while he takes a couple of touches to control the ball or deciding what he's going to do next.

I won't dwell on his crossing or movement in the oppositions half, as it's not even a debate.

Defensively, Ed001 has already touched on his aerial weaknesses and questionable positioning, but in my opinion, he also lacks a bit of bravery. He completely bottled several challenges against Middleborough, particularly in the first half, and that, especially as a 'defender' and in such an important game, isn't on.

I have nothing against the guy, and I agree that he gives his all, but unfortunately his 'all' isn't good enough.

The "stealing a living" remark was below the belt and likely fueled by the frustration of watching him play.

It'd be easier to encourage him if he didn't insist on that silly haircut :-)

Onward and upwards.


6.) 24 May 2017 16:12:37
I like him and think he does his best which is all we can ever ask for from a player. I have never seen him him as much (if any at all) of an upgrade on Glen Johnson.

As a few people have said he doesn't suit the system JK wants to play so we should try and replace him. Wish him all the best if he moves on too.

Did you know he has a tattoo of himself?! Weird, no?


7.) 24 May 2017 18:01:57
He's bashed because he's been poor this season and needs replacing. Poor defensively and generally clueless in the final third. Get rid move on. Stoke should buy him ✊🏼.

{Ed025's Note - thats a terrible thing to wish on stoke reaper.. :)


8.) 24 May 2017 18:57:18
Id say its more important to get a partner for Matip then replacing Clyne.


9.) 24 May 2017 19:25:20
Clyne is poor, end of story. If you think he is being unfairly slated then you need to watch the games and se what others like myself, have seen which shows that Clyne is poor in all facets of the game, period.

Being a good athlete and giving your all is nonsense cos any individual can do that if you paid him half of what Clyne is on, regardless of his skill set. It was this type of warped thinking that kept a hapless CB like Skrtel in the team for almost a decade.

Clyne is not good enough and the fact that he has to be moved out of the box in set piece situations, shows that he is a liability defensively. The guy needs to go and Klopp doesn't care how much of your all you give. if you can't hack it, you'll be gone, no exceptions.


10.) 24 May 2017 19:59:25
He has tried his best and it should be appreciated, as should his ability to be constantly available, much the same as we have appreciated Lucas's attempts over his time with the club. But the fact is his position is one where vast improvement can be made quite easily. Nothing against him as a person, his effort is outstanding, but can we, SHOULD we, as a team aiming for consistent CL qualification, trophies and building towards consistent title challenges, have a full back that is limited in both defence and attack. The ruthless, honest and business answer I'm afraid is no. No-one would argue if we replaced coutinho with Neymar. Same difference. As Ed says, players are transitional members of staff. If they don't improve they get replaced. Simple, harsh but true. We should be thankful for he effort and say goodbye With mutual respect and no hard feelings.


11.) 24 May 2017 20:45:50
N Red, no one's saying you can't decide if a player's good enough or not, it's the snide petty digs which are unacceptable. Fans shouldn't talk about their players that way.


12.) 25 May 2017 00:09:38
Putney,

Get off the fence, fella.

Ultimately, we all want Liverpool to succeed but we haven't won a trophy for five years.

I'd love to pretend everything is rosey and constantly massage the players ego's, but we haven't been good enough, although I do feel like we're getting there.

This is a 'banter' site/ open forum, people's opinions are going to be divided, get over it.


13.) 25 May 2017 07:16:39
Lacey, it's not banter when you're mocking someone who can't answer back, it's abuse.

{Ed001's Note - it depends on how it is meant. Banter and abuse always has a fine line between it. I mean what is banter between my mates in real life would be abuse if you and I said those things to each other, but between mates it is banter. Best not to get too stressed about it as some people just do not understand the fine lines.}


14.) 25 May 2017 07:53:07
Got it Ed, just had my buttons pushed is all.

{Ed001's Note - I know mate, but sometimes you have to give the benefit of the doubt and assume it is tongue in cheek or you will just get wound up. It is really not worth getting wound up over words on a screen.}


 

 

 

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11 Jun 2017 08:24:50
But aren't we supposed to pay whatever the asking price is now? I thought all this haggling is a sign of how bad our recruitment team is. Surely refusing to pay over the odds is terrible business.

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08 Jun 2017 06:55:11
Shame Ed, at the very least I hope the club learn a lesson, I think we're sailing very close to the wind with our transfer activity.

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01 Jun 2017 12:49:07
He is left footed at least unlike Brandt.

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23 May 2017 15:35:52
I hope this means Klopp trusts Gomez which is a positive sign for the lads future.

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26 Apr 2017 23:18:02
Because arsenal won one of the three matches they have to win to catch us? What do you get out of writing a post like that? Are you so desperate to call yourself smart that you wish failure on a team you apparently support?

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28 Jun 2017 13:02:27
The ruin of the world is falling to other people's standards rather than trying to raise them to yours.

We should strive to do what's right, not what we can get away with.

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26 Jun 2017 22:11:16
We may be in tenth but there's not much between us and fourth. Season's not over yet.

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26 Jun 2017 12:14:28
Would happy Christmas messages receive so many down votes? Looks like there are a few people of questionable ethics on here.

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26 Jun 2017 08:04:29
Eid Mubarak guys.

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26 Jun 2017 00:48:59
He's nervous about his future, he's behind three other players for a midfield spot and that doesn't include wiji or any other midfielder we bring in so his position may be even worse.

I suspect he's waiting to see who we sign before making a decision about next season.

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