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26 Nov 2014 18:43:22
Team: Mignolet, Manquillo, Skrtel, Toure, Johnson, Lucas, Gerrard, Allen, Henderson, Sterling, Lambert

Be interesting to see how Gerrard and Lucas are deployed. I'm assuming it'll be a diamond with Gerrard at the tip and Lucas at the base, but I'm worried that it'll be both of them as DMs which didn't exactly work against West Ham.

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17 Sep 2017 17:05:08
With all the cribbing since 4:50pm or so on Saturday, a fair bit of it coming from me tbh, I'd just thought I'd highlight a positive.

This is in my post history from 2014:

"Team: Mignolet, Manquillo, Skrtel, Toure, Johnson, Lucas, Gerrard, Allen, Henderson, Sterling, Lambert"

You have to say, player for player, we're quite a bit better than that now.

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1.) 17 Sep 2017 17:21:05
3 years. You don't realise how fast players come and go until you look back.


2.) 17 Sep 2017 17:44:13
Our current front 3 or 4 is terrifying. Nice to see and long may it continue.


3.) 17 Sep 2017 18:53:00
Something Red, we are miles better than that team you just put out there and the results are there to prove it, overalL. Only player I would take back from that team is Lucas. The rest? No thanks. We just have to keep working hard and adding better pieces to the puzzle till we get to where we wanna get to. The constant whining and moaning over the obvious is not my thing and never will be. Why? We can do NOTHING about it right now until the TW opens again.


4.) 17 Sep 2017 19:11:09
The squad has definitely improved, Bingo, and that's why I posted this, just to remind people of that. But the leaders and the strong personalities we had under Rafa that left or retired in the past few years weren't replaced by Kenny or Rodgers and haven't, as yet, been replaced by Klopp. And that's a big chunk of the problem. Trying to infer a player's personality from what they do in the pitch is the hardest part of scouting, so in a way it's kind of unreasonable to judge the manager too harshly for it.

My gut tells me Keita will help a lot in that respect, and I do wonder would things be shaping up differently if we got him this window along with van Dijk, but we didn't. And it's just a gut feeling. He might be a quiet little mouse.


5.) 17 Sep 2017 19:12:33
And Gerrard surely?


6.) 17 Sep 2017 20:34:53
Spot on, Something Red. VVD is captain of Saints and Keita is the driving force at RBL so they may have some leadership qualities within them. We shall see. I also see that Can may have some in him too that just needs to be unleashed as Germans are known for their mental toughness and hatred for losing. Can has proved us right with his work ethic and attitude to pay thru injury for the good of the team. We will see.

Superred, I did not pick SG as he was already on his last legs. Sorry, my friend.


7.) 17 Sep 2017 21:31:18
That team would have beaten Burnley.


8.) 17 Sep 2017 22:00:28
I checked the posting date against our 2014-15 season results, and apparently that team played against Ludogorets Razgrad. 2-2 draw.

But it would've beaten Burnley, yeah? Whatever you say mate.


 

 

17 Sep 2017 12:10:03
Part of what we're experiencing imo is the result of the loss of all the leaders from our dressing room over the past few years. You look at who we had in 2011 or 2012, we had Reina, Agger, Carragher and Gerrard. If we had any of them now, they would be the stand out option to captain the team. Even Suarez, as dreadful as some of the things he did were, could not stand losing a football match and that rubbed off on players around them. Now they're all gone, and we haven't really replaced them. Henderson's a good pro, so is Milner, and there probably aren't better options for the armband in the team currently. But they're not strong enough to motivate the likes of Matip to try 100% every game. And between all of our goalkeepers and defenders there's no organiser at the back.

No one's going to have a squad of 23 model professionals who give 100% every minute of every game whether it's the League Cup Third Round or the Champions League final, and whether you're 5-0 up 5-0 down or anything in between. But you don't need 23 model professionals if you have a couple of strong, vocal players who can drag the rest along at key points in matches. I said last season we needed to recruit one or two strong personalities to keep our fair weather players switched on, particularly at the back. Doesn't look like we've done it.

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1.) 17 Sep 2017 12:16:04
We don't have that character in the team I agree! I am still
Fuming at our backline ball watching for Burnley's free header in the dying minutes!


2.) 17 Sep 2017 13:47:01
That free header drew a good save from Mingnolet that unsurprisingly has not been mentioned by the cliche army.


3.) 17 Sep 2017 14:31:57
The problem I have with the people who defend Mignolet is that he makes a save, a save any decent keeper would be expected to make, and people call it a good save and go on about how noone mentions it. It isn't mentioned because it is the absolute minimum we expect from a goalkeeper, so make saves. The only reason it is termed 'a good save' is because it is Mignolet makirng it, if that was De Gea nobody would say anything and rightfully so - why should we try and big Mignolet up for making a routine save? Is that how low the bar has been set?


4.) 17 Sep 2017 14:46:53
I see what you are saying Seano and agree to some extent but it was a good save. Very good save actually.


5.) 17 Sep 2017 17:15:57
No its called giving credit where it's due. your opinion loses credit if it's not balanced.
Mignolet is a very average keeper but that was a very good save. There is nothing wrong with admitting that. It doesn't have to change your opinion of him, or mine. it just shows your open minded and judge on performances rather than trying to justify your own preconceptions.


6.) 17 Sep 2017 17:27:34
I dunno what save you people saw. It was, as is usual with every 'very good save' Migs makes, nearly at him. I'd have saved it.


7.) 17 Sep 2017 17:41:32
Yeah, generally the idea is to put yourself in the way of the ball. It's called a save for many but let's just ignore that fact because it doesn't support our argument. It was a very good save however you try and twist it.
The negativity on this site really is embarrassing.


8.) 17 Sep 2017 19:22:11
Except he doesn't put himself in the way of the ball for that save. He just happens to be there without moving.

When someone comes up with a decent shot against him and he actually has to dive or even shuffle across quickly, he inevitably doesn't make it. Seriously, watch him over the next few weeks. See how many saves he makes where the shot is placed more than a foot either side of him. Spolier alert: It won't be many.

I don't know where this myth that Migs is a good shot stopper comes from. Is it from the penalty he saved on his debut 4 years ago maybe? It's certainly not for anything I've seen him do in the last 12 months.


9.) 17 Sep 2017 19:23:01
Sirshanks and Redplanet, it is that type of attitude that has ensured that Migs has succeeded in stealing a living at LFC for the past for seasons. The high bar of low expectations.

He stood at his near post and was well positioned to make the save as Mee had NOWHERE else to place the header. All he had to do was stand there and the ball would hit him. Had Buffon done that, would you have cared? NO! Why? Cos it is a save we expect him or any GK to save. Now cos it's Migs, you are lowering the bar to make it sound like he did something great. HE DID NOT.

A GK should be bailing his team out and saving a ball we all think is a goal. If Migs wanted to earn my praise, he should have saved the Burnley goal which we all thought was a goal before it went in. That is what a GK is paid to do. Save the team's bacon, not save a ball you could have saved by just standing there holding on to the post. He is crap and Karius or Ward will be in for him in due time and by the way, watch the Burnley goal carefully and you will see Migs' mistake in it. Enjoy.


10.) 18 Sep 2017 00:17:34
You've just said it bingo. he positioned himself to such an extent that Mee couldn't beat him. excellent goalkeeping. Was that so hard to admit? It really is fun supporting your own players when they do their job.
Just for your info, I'm not the manager so I'm not responsible for Migs earning a living. Im just a supporter, you should try it sometine rather than trying to turn a positive into a negative just so that justifies your own argument.


 

 

16 Sep 2017 15:39:38
Matip has pace, height, physique and he's good with the ball. He should really be the best defender at the club, but he's just too lax in his attitude and play.

For the goal, he's let's himself get the wrong side of Wood and he's outmuscled, so Klavan has to come over to help, leaving the space for Arfield to score.

Lovren / Klavan center back partnership is going to be thing pretty soon at the rate Matip's going.

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1.) 16 Sep 2017 15:55:09
sure klavan made the right decision, but he f'd it up as usual.


2.) 16 Sep 2017 16:14:41
Perhaps a few games under his belt, he'll start to cut out the mistakes. He probably reads the game better than matip and lovren. I don't know, I'm getting kind of desperate here.


3.) 16 Sep 2017 16:34:11
Matip is very slow.


4.) 16 Sep 2017 17:09:50
He's only slow when he has to run back into position. Going forward he's fairly quick. Seems like a lazy attitude to me.


5.) 16 Sep 2017 17:18:02
Klavan should have been thinking about the second ball, he knew that he couldn't get there. Awful defender.


6.) 16 Sep 2017 17:31:59
The ball was for Matip to deal with but Klavan came over also, making it 2 players going for the same ball, hence leaving the centre open.


7.) 16 Sep 2017 20:03:25
Enuff w/ the Klavan bashing for the goal as he had NOTHING to do with it. It was all Matip and ONLY Matip who screwed up as Something Red described. I know Klavan is the scapegoat for everyone BUT this targeting of players needs to end, ASAP. Matip screwed up and in fact, Migs screwed up as well as he was out of position on the first header then had to pack=pedal after the second ball hence, he could not set his feet for the Arfield shot. Had he not been out of position, he would have had time to set his feet and maybe have a better chance of saving the shot as Arfield could only place it in one area of the goal.


8.) 16 Sep 2017 23:14:22
Bingo, i like how you try to defend our players but the reason Klavan had nothing to do with it was because he went for a ball he wasnt going to get and that left him no where for the 2nd ball. Can also didn't track the midfielder and Matip didn't do enough either.


 

 

13 Sep 2017 21:56:22
So much for Coutinho refusing to play in the Champions League then.

(Just wanted to change from "defence is toilet" and "Klopp out")

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1.) 13 Sep 2017 22:03:20
Two things 1 rafa sold are soul at half time in Istanbul, we are forever cursed lol.

2 van dijk doesn't sort the defence out, it's a whole unit the set up and how we play.
I'm not qualified to say but maybe change of formation to protect the backline, drills drills and more drills for defending.

Can't understand how so far two managers fail to adapt and change to build a solid defensive unit and improve. Hopefully this is the final straw and changes are made to improve on the constant failings.


2.) 13 Sep 2017 22:20:34
We will concede more that some but can dijk is better than our other cbs put together and will not make as many mistakes as the others.


3.) 13 Sep 2017 22:38:19
The defence was not the real problem today bar the Lovren brainfart. Karius had NO saves to make, Seville had only 4 shots on goal and 2 on target so the defence globally was not that bad. The issue is that the attack did not do it's job. We should have been 4-1 up at half time YET we screwed it all up, even missing a penalty. That is unforgivable at this level of footie and if you let a team like Seville of the hook as much as we did, they will punish you. As much as Lovren screwed up, we should not give the attack a pass as they messed up even more.


4.) 13 Sep 2017 23:09:11
How hard would it be to get all our great attackers on one side and the defence on the other and run some drills. Defending corners, positioning etc surly it can't hurt. Simple stuff every time seems to catch is out. So frustrating 😖.


 

 

27 Aug 2017 16:48:35
Arsenal have been absolutely awful and half their team doesn't even care that they've been awful. We just need to avoid doing anything stupid and letting them back in.

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1.) 27 Aug 2017 16:53:14
Are they or is it because we have been exceptional. 🤔.


2.) 27 Aug 2017 16:59:10
We've been good, but Arsenal have been shocking.

I'll put it this way, if three of our defenders were like statues in the six yard box marking thin air and allowed an opposition forward to waltz in from the penalty spot and have a free header to score, what would you say? I don't think it'd be "wow, that was a good goal! "


3.) 27 Aug 2017 17:00:41
Think it's a bit of both, we're very good, Ramsey and Ozil been absolutely shocking.
AOC not doing much to impress, or maybe that's all part of his plan to get away?!?!?
Can getting better each time he plays, maybe that's part of his plan.
Getting a cold sweat each time the ball goes near Karius.
No mistakes second half please.


4.) 27 Aug 2017 17:03:39
I never get these type of posts. Can we not just be playing well that makes the opposing look pretty bad? It always feels as if we got a little lucky and met a team on an off day.


5.) 27 Aug 2017 17:16:39
Salah at £39m is looking like bargain of the season.


6.) 27 Aug 2017 17:55:38
What's there not to get? Arsenal were really poor. Would you have been one bit happy with us playing like that?

Doesn't mean we weren't good. We were. Especially at the start of the 2nd half when Arsenal briefly showed a bit of fight, we kept playing well and scored a third to knock the fight out of them again. Front three all scored again, so did Sturridge, Can and Wijnaldum were excellent.

4 goals, clean sheet and three points against a team that are going to be outside the top 6, which is where we normally struggle. ;)


7.) 27 Aug 2017 18:30:14
Lets be honest, Arsenal were shocking.
That doesn't mean we weren't fantastic.
I suspect any of the top 6 would struggle against our front 3.
But do you really think Chelsea, Utd or City would play that badly against us?
Thought Gini was outstanding, Gomez was superb, Can my MOM, give him what he wants right now!


8.) 27 Aug 2017 18:55:37
Arsenal have been poor CJ. Their midfield can't be arsed. I'm a bag of nerves right now as we're not the best at protecting leads!


 

 

 

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19 Nov 2017 12:25:15
It's because we play a higher line and he needs to concentrate on his positioning a lot more with us because there'll be too much space for him to make up if he's caught out Carlos. It's not really a mystery.

He was good against Southampton, though. I know they didn't attack all that much, but he dealt with the few attacks they did put together well. He's often been guilty of switching off and letting the opposition in when he has nothing to do for long periods of a game, but there was none of that yesterday.

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10 Nov 2017 17:45:43
Aside from everything else: Coutinho's trying to leave the club and may have taken to feigning injury. Strikes me as unlikely that we'd wheel him out to meet a new recruit.

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09 Nov 2017 21:04:49
I think Mascherano is going to decline due to loss of running power with age a LOT more than McAllister will, though Johnny.

May have already happened, but it doesn't show in a team where he's not tested.

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13 Sep 2017 22:51:44
Didi was on RTE doing our game tonight, predicted 2-2. You should've gotten some tips from him when he was going through all those betting apps on his phone.

Unfortunately, he didn't punch Eamon Dunphy.

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09 Sep 2017 22:40:10
That was a wasted opportunity. If I'd been there I'd have offered the Kaiser 200 euro to punch Eamon Dunphy on live television.

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21 Nov 2017 21:55:51
CL is done by head to head and then goal difference, afaik.

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19 Nov 2017 13:21:19
Forster was fairly terrible alright. The way he "dealt with" Alexander-Arnold's chance in the first half was pub team territory.

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18 Nov 2017 19:44:13
You went and jinxed it : (.

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18 Nov 2017 16:18:57
At time of writing he's the top scorer in the PL too. More than Kane. More than Aguero.

But I'm sure we still need a natural no.9 to base our forward play around and have him hog all the chances.

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13 Nov 2017 19:28:57
He set up the petition in May after Owen referred to Man U as "we" whilst commentating on the Europa League Final.

Leaving Mr. Owen aside, I've always had a problem with employees of a football club doubling as commentators and pundits. You're either one or the other, like.

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