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11 Feb 2015 15:09:08
Any news of Flanagan getting a new contract? Is it even being discussed?


1.) 11 Feb 2015 22:31:14
Hope he gets one, he worked hard last year and showed he had the quality to be in the first team. That goal against Spurs is still a highlight from last season for me.

2.) 12 Feb 2015 10:25:51
One wonder goal and he get's a new contract ? Rather cash in on him and bring another youngster through.

3.) 12 Feb 2015 10:32:07
I think it would be wise to see how he does when he returns from injury.

A full season out is a long time especially at his age.

4.) 12 Feb 2015 13:34:34
Actually It wasn't simply one wonder goal, he played brilliantly when he came in, made Johnson look more of a mug than he actually is, showed that he has what it takes at the top level as he was consistant, solid and worked hard, the goal against spurs was the icing on the cake, as was his reaction.

5.) 12 Feb 2015 17:29:04
Agree Mr D

6.) 13 Feb 2015 07:45:01
He was our only defender last year that actually looked like he had any intention of defending and made opposition players think twice about running at him. He was the best positioned, most disciplined, most energetic and most effective defensive player we had last year. And that was playing on the wrong side.

7.) 13 Feb 2015 20:29:52
If carra was still about he would have learned so much. I remember one of his first games seeing carra talking him through the game, where to be and where to keep the attackers. Shame.

8.) 13 Feb 2015 22:20:00
He played brilliantly last season, but still think it would be wise to see how he recovers after being out for a season.

9.) 14 Feb 2015 12:48:58
I have mentioned this in the past, no the likelyhood is he won't be offered a new contract, he will be given a chance to prove himself in the next couple of months before the decision is made, read my last comment to find out why. Also BR thinks wisdom is a better option as he can fit into the three at the back aswel as a full back

10.) 14 Feb 2015 22:58:50
I think his time is up. Another Martin Kelly Saga.




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08 Feb 2017 16:23:17
Freddy Adu just failed to get a contract with Portland

I think it's time the owners opened their chequebook tbh. My footy manager 05 said that he'd make Pele look like Jovanovic by now!


1.) 08 Feb 2017 19:23:24
I reckon we get him in and put him up front with Nemeth!

2.) 08 Feb 2017 22:59:27
I'm surprised no-one has suggested Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch. If we could buy a centre back with that name on the back of shirt we would be unbeatable! There is even a Dutch player -meervoudigepersoonlijkheidsstoornis - however tghis one is more suited to manchester united as it translates to 'mental peronality disorder'.



30 Jan 2017 15:27:30
Hi Eds

Bit of a general football question if I may. A local lower league club I used to work for has just started letting a late 30's ex player train with them again. This ex player is a cult name most people would recognise here but since his career ended (slightly prematurely) he's been on a personal downhill slide; substance abuse, wife moved out etc. It was very unexpected for those of us who knew him back in the day (which in fairness was a while ago now) when he was always the nicest, most normal, down to earth guy at the club.

I know those sorts of issues are a risk for retiring athletes who lived for their sport and suddenly are without any of the direction or rush that it brings. But are football clubs in general (and I'm sure there are extreme cases at both ends of the spectrum) making proactive steps to help players settle into retirement from the sport and transition away from that life? Or do they exist in a space where as soon as your contract is over unless you have another way to be useful, they don't want to hear your name again?



{Ed002's Note - Players are transient and you spend the last part of their career at a lower league club - it cannot be expected that such a club eases a player in to retirement. Players get a lot of support nowadays and the PFA provides help.}

1.) 30 Jan 2017 15:45:57
PFA have help there but you have to go looking for it, they do not go out of their way to promote or help this with ex players. in some cases it could be at a point where the demons are already in the system and you have to be at rock bottom before the system steps into help.

2.) 30 Jan 2017 20:42:25
Without sounding heartless but why should footballers get this help? Plenty of people have stressful jobs and get no help, nurses, soldiers, teachers etc.

3.) 31 Jan 2017 08:52:39
There needs to be more sympathy and awareness of mental health issues in all walks of life.

4.) 31 Jan 2017 12:01:46
Thanks Ed002. More of a curiosity than an expectation.

Mikey - all of those people have help so I don't know what you're on about. There are trade unions, charities, membership organisations and government funds that literally exist for the sole reason of helping those people. Don't make the mistake of thinking that every footballer is rich and can afford all the help they need - a very small percent actually end up 'rich' - most probably earn a better than average wage for most of their career, but when their career is 15-20 years max and finish it with little education to move onto something else, that 'better than average' wage needs to cover them for a very long time. I had a drink with a player for this club at their retirement party, he graduated from the spurs academy but spent almost his whole career in League 1 and the Championship. He told me he never earned more than £75k/ y and most of the time it was closer to £40k/ y. Sounds like good money but as he pointed out, he might never earn more than minimum wage in his life (being a more or less unknown footballer with a O-level in PE doesn't exactly quality you for many jobs) means he'll probably earn significantly less over his career than the average person on the street will.

99 - it's good to hear that the PFA does have a recognised function in that.



29 Jan 2017 15:07:13
As an aside from the misery of the last week, it was great to see Conner Coady yesterday. He has obviously come on leaps and bounds as a player and it was great to see one of our youth players really enjoying their football - good for the lad!


1.) 29 Jan 2017 19:28:45
Agreed. Really hard working lad who deserves success. Unlike Sinclair who looked like a lazy, petulant child today against Milwall. Making it pro is 5% inspiration and 95% perspiration! Coady is a good lad.



10 Jan 2017 19:26:27
United have started effectively their first XI against Hull with the notable exception of Ibrahimovic


1.) 10 Jan 2017 20:18:18
This is the Liverpool page

2.) 10 Jan 2017 20:50:47
To be fair Steph, we play United this weekend so the team they field tonight is intriguing with regards to how much energy they will have for the game against us. I assume that is what hjikle is getting at anyway.

3.) 10 Jan 2017 20:57:19
And your point is there at home and play a day before us and they don't have to play away

4.) 10 Jan 2017 21:29:36
Rojo, Carrick, Martial and Ibra

5.) 10 Jan 2017 21:39:09
I know MK! The post was more for fun rather than critique. However, I believe it would be best if both players, staff and fans, myself included, concentrate on our own game and the next one, rather than concern ourselves with what other teams do, or fans or pundits say. So far this season i believe for the most part we were the better team and only have ourselves to blame for any dropped points, so if we concentrate on our own game, i believe we have a really good chance of achieving our goals

6.) 10 Jan 2017 22:13:38
Good one, Steph1. I`ve never cared what other teams do cos it should never dictate how you prepare. Focus on ourselves, respect the opponent, NEVER fear them and go out there believing in your strategy and preparation and let the chips fall where they may. Bottom line is there should be no regrets, after the game.

7.) 10 Jan 2017 23:55:37
For all the discussion about how we are preparing for the major game happening on the weekend, it is worth at least knowing what the opposition are doing to prepare. Pretty simple really.

And I utterly reject the notion that what our opponents do shouldn't change what we do. Champions alter their tactics to best block the strengths and target the weaknesses of their opposition.

8.) 11 Jan 2017 01:18:15
Hijkle, no one is saying that. Checking up on the opponent is all part of the preparation process. What you can`t do is to dwell on what their doing too much cos it takes away the focus from your own preparation, Champions or not.

9.) 11 Jan 2017 10:48:54
Not as if us discussing United will have any impact, agreed if Klopp came out in the presser talking about their line up fair enough, but us as fans can discuss it knowing our discussions will not affect the team in any way.

10.) 11 Jan 2017 13:34:05
Agreed, Welsh.



05 Jan 2017 17:41:33
Does anyone else think that improving our team is actually very difficult? Our options for the front three are Firmino, Coutinho, Mane, Sturridge and Origi - there aren't many people in football (including the likes of Brandt and Promes) who would improve them, they would just be some extra depth. In the middle we have the undroppable Lallana and Hendo, together with Wiji, Can, Stewart, Lucas and Grujic. That's a great mix of first team options, specialised talent and young players coming through - there are more players that would improve this selection of players but with such a well crafted balance, would better players make it a better team? I have my doubts and the longer they play together, the more doubts I will have over it.

The defense is the more suspect area but with young talent such as Juanma and Trent Alexander-Arnold coming through we really want to leave that avenue open - there are few top quality full backs available for any money in football at the moment and on balance it does seem that making our own would be a better use of our time than trying to poach others. So in reality, the only likely position where we could import talent that actually improves our first team is CB - Lovren is decent but in reality, Matip is the only top quality CB we have and a pacey partner with good positioning and a level head would definitely improve us.

Goalkeeper is another area but it depends whether you want to develop Ward/ Karius or just keep buying.


1.) 05 Jan 2017 17:56:10
Depth is what we need atm due our brilliant record on injuries. We have a solid first team good enough to brag any PL team but when a couple gets injured we look externally average. Henderson and Coutinho for example. We are never the same without Matip as well.

The bench aren't as good as the first team which is what haunting Klopp the most but then you can't buy players are bench then either, Could you?

Who will believe this team has scored record number of goals without playing an out and out striker?

There are detain players without which the Car wouldn't function and we don't have the same quality in Back Up.

There are two ways to tackle this.

1. Bring the youth ( Just like Poch is doing atm ) as much as possible and inherit them to the first team system and tactics. ( Klopp doesn't play the youngsters when the team is already won )

2. But solid players who will challenge the first team which will improve the squad as a whole.

There are lot of players who could challenge our first teamers. For example Brandt would really push Coutinho or Lallana. Franck Kissie will push Henderson

It's up to the manager what he prefers.

2.) 05 Jan 2017 18:01:34
I think klopp with drop coutinho into midfield next to lallana and buy another winger.

3.) 05 Jan 2017 18:14:56
Hijkle, your post is well-thought out. you can always improve the team, no question. However, it is with whom that is my issue.

The system we play is not just high energy. it requires not just off the charts fitness level BUT most of all, it requires technical ability well above average, great on the ball, great positional awareness, vision and passing ability as well as offensive and defensive nous. But most importantly, the player needs to have a very high football IQ. There is a reason players like Benteke, Smith, Ibe, Allen and the lot are no longer here. They were lacking some of these things.

Hence, players that can improve us have to have all these qualities and you won`t get them in Jan, for sure. Regarding the defence, we only need a partner for Matip (Not VDV by the way) and it seems Juanma and TAA are being grommed for the FB positions, per Ed01.

Either way, I trust Klopp to do the right thing for the club regarding transfers cos afterall, he got us Matip and Mane, two players who have improved us immensely. As for Karius and Wiji, they should be given enough time to prove themselves.

4.) 05 Jan 2017 19:17:00
I think we need more competition for places. Not depth, competition! Firmino has just 1 goal in his last 9 league games. Not good enough, but who do we have to put a rocket up his unmentionable?

5.) 05 Jan 2017 19:38:54
MK Firmino's drought has largely coincided with Coutinho's injury and him being played wide as a consequence. He also misses those little passes in behind that Couts gives him as they have a great understanding. I am confident that Firmino will start banging them in as soon as Couts is back.

6.) 05 Jan 2017 20:12:35
Jeese Harry, a bit rough on Wiji i think. I think he has been consistently good not excellent but good. He also allows the others to do the clever stuff while he, and similar to Hendo, does the graft work. He is always on offer when we have the ball and has given us great protection defensively on many occasions.

7.) 05 Jan 2017 20:41:43
I appreciate that Pipscreamer, but every season since he has been here Coutinho has picked up an injury which has put him out for between 4-8 weeks. If Firmino cannot play without Coutinho then we need someone else on his wavelength or someone to take his place when he is struggling. In that same 9 game period Firmino also has 0 assists. So it isn't just the lack of Coutinho to find his runs, he is just off the pace. Unfortunately, without Couts he is our only creative forward. Mane, Sturridge and Origi all have pace and goals in them, but Coutinho and Firmino are the magicians. Without one another they struggle. I don't think we should replace Mane or buy a back up for him. We have plenty of pacey forwards in the academy; Ojo, Woodburn etc. Not to mention Ings. Either we give Wilson a chance (who is the true creative force in the U23's) or we need to find competition for Coutinho and Firmino externally. Jimenez would be ideal in my opinion but of course I would prefer it if Wilson could save us some cash. I would give him chances to stake a claim and look to a player such as Jiminez in the Summer if Wilson doesn't cut it. It is surely alarming to more than just me that Firmino is so heavily reliant on Coutinho for his form? 1 goal in 9 games for a striker is atrocious by anyone's standards. If his pressing wasn't so beneficial to the team he'd probably have been dropped already.

8.) 05 Jan 2017 21:35:25

Oh c'mon Andy. Nothing against Wijnaldum. He is not so critical and we could cope without him but I don't think we will ever cope without Coutinho and Hendo, simply coz we don't have the similar type players available.

Hendo could play Wiji's role if you have someone to okay Henderson's role.

9.) 05 Jan 2017 22:35:44
Personally, I don't think it's that Firmino can't play without Coutinho. I think Firmino isn't suited for the left wing. He does a job there, sure. But he isn't playing at his best. Origi might have scored 5 in a row (which is fantastic) and Sturridge is hopefully on his way to full recovery, but for me, I'll start Bobby in the middle ahead of them. That's where he's at his best.
I believe the team is good as it is. Just need a CB to partner Matip and Stewart to get more gametime (cos he's the most natural backup to Hendo) . I would give Karius time and seeing as I haven't seen Danny Ward, I can't comment on whether or not he can challenge Karius next season (I still expect Mignolet to leave)

10.) 06 Jan 2017 06:31:04
I think we could improve the squad by having someone else like Hendo - allowing for rotation/ cover/ competition at base of midfield without losing any quality, and also offering the option to play Hendo (or the new player) to play slightly further forward if required to establish more control in midfield/ cover injuries to Llalana or Wijnaldum. Vidal would be my dream but maybe a Kongdogbia, Schneiderlin, Kante type player.

Unfortunately that would most likely mean the end of Can who is currently supposed to play that role but I think he has some way to go to playing the deep role and so an upgrade would be brutal but make almost sense in the overall team.

Only other position I would consider would be upgrading Klavan with a real challenger to Lovren (say a Jonathan Tah or Sule) .

11.) 06 Jan 2017 06:51:10
Vidal is certainly not a holding player and more of the old Henderson. But I assume he has been playing there at a Bayern. ( Price is out of the reach and heard Conte is looking at him) .

Kondogbia is available for the right money.

Schniderlin - 2 years ago he was the best CM in the league. A playmaker who could defend. Disciplined CM and would be an excellent addition under Klopp.

Kante happens only once in a decade.

Brozovic - Good player who score goals from the midfield. Very much in the mold of Henderson.

Franck Kiessie - We should splash the cash imo. A defensive midfielder who has 5 goals and 6 assist in his name. He is a terrific player and very young. Better than Renato Sanchez.

12.) 06 Jan 2017 07:13:31
"I don't think we will ever cope without Coutinho and Hendo, simply coz we don't have the similar type players available. "

I disagree with the above statement. Klopp is developing a team which does not rely on one or two individuals being fit/ available.
If our team can't cope (I disagree) then this is the area we can and must improve. It does not always require new faces to improve the team. Coaching, fitness, preparation are ways of improving the team, otherwise why have coaches?
I'm afraid it's the 'Football Manager' game mentality that permeates football these days. Make the current crop the best they can be, then look at new faces.

13.) 06 Jan 2017 12:23:19
Harry is in many ways proving my points. 'Brandt would push Coutinho' - no he wouldnt. 'Kissie would push Hendo' - he stands very little chance of pushing our captain. Kissie has had half a season of actual regular football, of which the first 6 months has been good in a poor league. However he would stand almost no chance of replacing Hendo - he'd be replacing Grujic, Chirivella, Stewart etc in our squad. Not to mention we have no idea what he's like as a person - would he fit into our squad? Can he deal with the pressures of the PL? Will he be able to pick himself back up after an injury? Renato Sanchez has shown that he can deal with the pressure of a Euro's Final against the favourites and after losing their best player early, what has Kissie shown of himself to justify that price tag? Some extra goals in a worse league? Who knows, yet in your opinion from 6 months of stats and a highlight reel you rate him at 35m or so is ludicrious for a team with an actual budget and in my opinion, based solely on the fact that Chelsea are interested in him so in your opinion he must be amazing. I find it unlikely that you've actually watched much of Atlanta this year.

Equally Scheneiderlin at his best doesn't displace anyone in our midfield fully fit, and neither does Brozovic. They are just people that could sit on our bench, for huge amounts of money, and destroy any chance of young players progressing. Vidal and to a much lesser extent Kondogbia are the only players that could possibly get to the same level but between the marginal improvements that Kondogbia MIGHT bring, and Vidals rapidly advancing age, is it worth the massive outlay that would unsettle our midfield that have provided the basis for Liverpool being the highest scoring team in the league? I don't think so

{Ed025's Note - you make some very valid points hjikle but they are in the end opinions which is just the same as with harry, it does not make either of you right or wrong mate..just opinionated which makes for good discussion..

14.) 06 Jan 2017 16:07:41
Spot on, Hijkle. Pulling non LFC players out of thin air to make a point or unfairly compare them to our own players, proves absolutely nothing and Hijkle just royally debunked that notion.




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13 Feb 2017 16:19:22
Of all the players you mentioned MK only Walcott and Owen to a far lesser extent relied pretty much 100% on pace. Some of them, like Gerrard and Messi, actually don't really have that impressive a turn of pace at all. Most of them also had their most fruitful seasons after 26 which seems to be your randomly applied cut off date for decline beginning.

I'm not saying we will or won't be interested in a guy like him, but your counter argument and random names thrown in (btw, when there are as many exceptions to the rule as there are people fitting the rule, it's not a rule) seems odd to say the least!




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07 Feb 2017 15:54:13
Well said Ed001.




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19 Jan 2017 10:36:43
New CB - Gomez. New LB - Juanma




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05 Jan 2017 17:21:33
Reading are a decent team, its good to see him going somewhere he will play and I hope it works out for him.




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04 Jan 2017 08:50:41
I'd never heard of Go Ahead Eagles. And considering a quick Google search shows they have only spent 3 years of the last 25 in the top league, it's not really surprising.





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21 Feb 2017 20:52:32
zpecialone and Drigan - the point is that maybe we should have given them some more time to prove themselves in our squad. Do you really think that buying Brad Jones, who took the potential game time of Gulasci, was a good idea? Or that Suso's game time deserved to be spread around players like Assaidi, Downing, Victor Moses on loan and Joe Cole? Looking at that list of nonsense, what was the risk on giving him games?

The best example is missing from the list though. While we haven't had a strong CB pairing since Carragher retired and haven't had a good CDM since Lucas started getting injured, Mikel San Jose has been one of the best players in both positions in Spain (outside of Real and Barcelona obviously) for years!




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21 Feb 2017 20:45:40
Five years is longer than the life expectancy of a manager in modern football. If Klopp makes five, he's done well but I doubt he'll make the ten required to realistically see benefits coming from it.




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16 Feb 2017 22:47:22
I've seen nothing from Clyne that tells me why he starts over TAA now - TAA fits our system much better.




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14 Feb 2017 10:26:05
Absolutely ridiculous TTNT. I know exactly what our strengths and weaknesses are. But that does not make a positive result, never mind such a dominant performance, against such a strong team and top quality defensive unit a forgone conclusion or even a likely one. To say that they do is basic level popularism and a ridiculous comment, not to mention incredibly disrespectful both to LFC and the performance we put in, and to the quality that Spurs have on offer.




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13 Feb 2017 16:28:29
Can has time as a midfielder sure, but I'd rather see Sturridge in defense!