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06 Aug 2017 22:06:32
Be prepared for the outrage Eds.

Apparently we have agreed to let Coutinho leave.

Let the panic buying commence!

RedDawn

1.) 06 Aug 2017 22:16:07
I'd like to see all those who said we could compete for a top four place say it now. This is a hammer blow to our season.


2.) 06 Aug 2017 22:20:01
Ed's, batten down the hatches and put up the sand bags. It's going to get choppy!


3.) 06 Aug 2017 22:24:09
Heard the same it's all over the Internet.


4.) 06 Aug 2017 22:24:09
Heard the same it's all over the Internet.


5.) 06 Aug 2017 22:41:07
It going be alright who wants that PL trophy dripping in saudi oil anyway.
In FSG we trust. FACT.


6.) 06 Aug 2017 22:34:43
let's get as much as we can then put a bid in for lewendowski bayen munich are shambles at the moment maybe a new challenge might suit him wasn't he at dortmand with klopp too? .


7.) 06 Aug 2017 22:52:13
Lewandowski is on the downward curve of his career.


8.) 06 Aug 2017 23:04:45
Fake News!


9.) 06 Aug 2017 23:09:59
fine if coutinho leaves, especially if he doesn't want to be here.


10.) 06 Aug 2017 23:35:31
Faithinworks, take it you'll be happy with a season of failure.


11.) 06 Aug 2017 23:43:58
The issue isn't if Coutinho goes but the fact that it doesn't leave much time to find a replacement. for this reason I find it hard to believe we would sell. We will see though.


12.) 07 Aug 2017 00:41:10
frankly - obviously not fine with a failed season. but what are you going to do if and when coutinho leaves this summer? just have a cry?
not me, up for the season no matter what happens. look forward to see if we bring anyone in, and if not then will be excited to see how we step up and fill the void.


13.) 07 Aug 2017 01:18:19
It would be a huge blow, yes, but he played on the wing last season. who's expecting to start on the wing this season? Mane and Salah. The reality is whether deliberate or not, we actually have brought in someone new in his position already.

As much as I want him to stay, we also can't hold him against his will. I pray the report isn't true, but if it is, we can survive and hopefully replace him with someone special sooner rather than later.


14.) 07 Aug 2017 01:44:22
Emre Morr would be a fantastic replacement he's younger and quicker than Coutinho. We still do not have a better goalkeeper that can be trusted to do the job and instill confidence in the team. We also need a commanding central midfielder that can balls going through the middle so easily. We give away goals to easy through the middle of the park and set pieces. You don't need to be the best manager to see these mistakes it is so simple to sort out and starts by getting rid of players like Henderson who is so ordinary and the height of our defence will always be beaten.


15.) 07 Aug 2017 04:47:07
Jesus frankly, get a hold of yourself man!


16.) 07 Aug 2017 04:47:11
Lewandowski is not on a downward curve! That is total made up nonsense. It's embarrassing how many agree. He is 28 for god sake. Not to mention his goal tally last season of 43 in all competitions was the best of his career to date. The 42 the season before wasn't too shabby either.

I posted about this the other day, but it is truly shocking how the mentality of our fans has shifted. We'd rather sign a 21 year old with potential than a 28 year old who is ready to lead us to trophies from day one. Lewandowski is probably only second in world football to Luis Suarez as a central striker. If he was available and we turned it down because he is 28, I'd genuinely want heads to roll in our clubs recruitment team because that would be almost laughable. Anybody else remember United signing a 28 year old Van Persie and winning the league with his goals? And his injuries meant he actually was on a downward curve. But he was still good enough to fire them to the title with 30 goals!

{Ed001's Note - as a central striker, Lewandowski is the best in the world. As a player overall though, Suarez is a better player, he does more for the team. It is like comparing Ian Rush and Kenny Dalglish, Rush was without a doubt the better striker, but Dalglish was the better player and you would pick him every time. I am not sure if I am agreeing or disagreeing with you here MKS, just trying to explain my own thinking really, so probably neither!

However, anyone that would not take Lewandowski for their team right at this moment is utterly insane or absolutely clueless. He is world class. He is the kind of player that makes opposition teams completely change their set up to cope with him. He gives defenders panic attacks just leading up to the game they have to deal with him.}


17.) 07 Aug 2017 04:50:07
For all the talk about Klopp and team calling all the shots, this will be another humiliating admittance to our conduct of business in the transfer market - if true this is a big fat slap on Klopp's mouth. I think this deal won't happen though - it's just too short sighted for us to sell Couts when we have a CL match coming so soon. What a way to show our ambition before we start the season.


18.) 07 Aug 2017 05:20:38
I understand your logic Ed, no worries. In fact I probably agree with your assessment on it. Lewandowski scores more goals in a tougher league, but like you say, Suarez does more in terms of pressing, creating etc and probably can win a game from nothing like no other player in the world. As a pure striker though, I'd agree you cannot top Lewandowski. I'm still in shock that someone just insinuated they wouldn't want him. This could take me some time to comprehend.

{Ed001's Note - it is unreal. I think some people just don't actually watch these players play before they make their judgements on them.}


19.) 07 Aug 2017 05:27:27
MKS, this is the most sense i've seen on here for a while! Thanks for proving that there are sensible reds still out there. Ed001, you're spot on too!

{Ed001's Note - cheers hoh.}


20.) 07 Aug 2017 06:02:39
I would love Suarez back, imagine having him up front with attack we have at the moment! Crazy attack! I would take him all day long in place of couts. I am a little worried about the timing to be honest and our ability to find an adequate replacement. Maybe we should ask the question, we will take Suarez and 50 million please lol.


21.) 07 Aug 2017 07:16:59
I would do the same as we did with Suarez. Tell Coutinho he can leave, at the end of the season when we have thoroughly scouted a decent shortlist if replacements.
Only difference is that Suarez also needed that season to upgrade his transfer prospects from Arsenal to Barcelona, Coutinho doesn't need to convince Barcelona to come for him.


22.) 07 Aug 2017 08:19:15
One thing is for sure, Coutinho is no Suarez, he goes missing in games and is definitely replaceable, just hope we do t see Salah as the replacement. At the minute we look really strong in attack, without Coutinho and Lallana injured we lack quality.


23.) 07 Aug 2017 08:20:39
Lewa is a beast of a player, Ed and to me, Klopp's greatest creation. The complete CF who has pace, power, movement, pressing ability, aerial ability, the whole lot. He has NO weaknesses, period. If we ever bought a CF, he would be the one I would get.


24.) 07 Aug 2017 08:22:22
Sorry but Lewandowski is at the wrong end of his career, he'll be 29 this summer, not the age you join the premier league. He's had a great career, but if he joined us at this point there is far to much risk attached to it. The example of van Persie is a poor comparison given that van Persie was familiar with the premier league and didn't need to adjust. If we blew money on Lewandowski we'd be running the risk of doing a Chelsea and signing the equivalent of Shevchenko. I'm not saying he isn't a great player, but at 29 years old, he'd be too much of a risk.


25.) 07 Aug 2017 08:24:47
Spot on, Andy. That is what I would do as well but hey, I'm not the manager nor am I FSG. Those saying that "he's not world class anyway or he's inconsistent so he can go" are deluding themselves and have learnt absolutely nothing from the Torres and Suarez debacles. If we just let him go this season with no time to find a suitable replacement (I don't see anyone out there who can in the short term), we will regret it, period.


26.) 07 Aug 2017 08:43:26
Frankly Mr shankly do you have anything positive to say ever on this page, my god you sound like a child.


27.) 07 Aug 2017 08:46:21
Frankly I understand your opinion mate, but world class players can adapt. Shevchenko came from Italy to the Prem at a time when the tempo in the two divisions were at polar opposites, yes. But he also just failed massively to settle.

The Bundesliga is a similar tempo to the modern day Prem as the league is now flooded with continental managers anyway, but Lewandowski has a playing style suited to the English leagues.

It is always a lottery signing a new striker anyway. Drogba and Ibrahimović did all right adapting to a new league at a later stage in their career, whilst players like Bony and Benteke who were seemingly proven couldn't even adapt to a new club at a younger age; so that shows how it is more down to the individual than just what league they come from.


28.) 07 Aug 2017 08:55:35
Hard work you bet your a good to be around lewandowski would make my team before coutinho.

And if you're banding names of failures in the prem I'll match your shevchenko with an ibrahimovic.


29.) 07 Aug 2017 09:04:31
There aren't any positives, we are going into the new season without our best player, we will in all likelihood replace a top class player with mediocre players (there's a rumour doing the rounds that we're going to sign Oxlade for £28m which supports that point), we haven't been able to bring in our top targets and we still look hopelessly weak in midfield and defence.


30.) 07 Aug 2017 09:17:37
Didn't Utd sign RVP at 29 and then promptly win the league? . I would have no qualms with Lewandoski (not that it will happen thou! )


31.) 07 Aug 2017 09:24:12
There's is no support till it happens.

Reports suggest, nothing has actually happend yet, nothing is certain he hasn't gone yet.

Better to save judgement till the window is shut. It's not healthy to stress so much, bad news it's not been the best news the good news we haven't lost a pre season game we have a qualifier and European football to look forward to and the window is still open. Anything is still possible.


32.) 07 Aug 2017 09:30:44
United only got one really good season out of van Persie, the other two were blighted by injury. So again a poor comparison. As for Ibrahimovic, there was no risk as it was a free transfer, Lewandowski would cost a huge amount of money as well as the wages, so it's very comparable to Shevchenko. A couple of years ago, Lewandowski would be a great signing, but now? Not really, And even then, why leave Bayern when they are already in the Champions League and likely to win the title to come to a club in disarray?

{Ed001's Note - free? Zlatan was far from free.}


33.) 07 Aug 2017 09:41:31
Poor comparison? He helped win the league so worth every penny.


34.) 07 Aug 2017 09:42:24
Spot on Leeeee and BTW, it is only in the Catalan/ Spanish media tabloids printing rubbish on a bid to put pressure on LFC to sell Cou and to also get their fans excited for a new arrival. Discussions may be going on as Ed02 has said BUT there is nothing to it. We should stand our ground like RBL did for Keita and not sell. Cou can then be given a couple of weeks to sort his head out and then come back ready to go for the season. We simply cannot sell our best player, end of. If we do, we might as well be a selling club with no ambition and be done with it.


35.) 07 Aug 2017 09:53:09
Same reason neymar left Barca, money new challenge.

I'm not saying he's the answer but you wouldn't be happy if couts goes, you won't be happy if we replace with a lanzini coz he substandard, you won't be happy if we replace with lewandowski who could be considered world class.

You'd only be happy if we force him stay and make him love us and hate Barca, can't expect 100% from someone who's probable dreamed of playing for Barca, and is forced to stay at liverpool.

On the other hand he maybe happy to 1 more year but it's inevitable he will leave imo so we will face this impasse at some point.


36.) 07 Aug 2017 09:56:20
Lewandoski would easily score 25+ in the EPL and no way is he on a downward curve. Anybody that thinks that are mad and mustn't have watched any other football the last couple of seasons apart from LFC games.


37.) 07 Aug 2017 09:56:23
If couts wants to go take the best price and move on for, we don't want an unhappy player at the club as the eds say players come and go it's just the way of the business.


38.) 07 Aug 2017 13:40:54
Lewandowski's age is not an issue at this time, as he is not injury prone.

He would score for fun in the EPL. We would probably win the league if we signed him.


39.) 07 Aug 2017 18:00:03
Lewzndolski sold be brilliant signing. He's getting on but still on of world's best.


40.) 07 Aug 2017 18:08:36
Anyone who doubts lewandolski is crazy. The guy is one of best players in the world, at peak of his prowess. The issue is. Is he likely to sign for liverpool? Doubt it guys. Let's quit dreaming.


41.) 07 Aug 2017 18:11:42
Lewandolski is pure class and anyone who says otherwise would have serious trouble picking 11 players to field a team. If he's not good enough for you, then who is for god sake. 3 messi's 4 ronaldos and 4 Gareth bales.?

Frankly, lfc are not the most loved team in the world. We have enough haters across the park and down the motorway. We need our fans to SUPPORT our team. What do you suggest we do? Lock the gates of an field forever and give up coz our star player (whom we bought for 8 mil) is getting his dream move. For around 100 mil

Lfc have a habit of giving their very best players special treatment. Coutinio is that man atm. If you think so much of him, as the club do, how can you stand in the way of what was probably his boyhood dream?


 

 

07 Jun 2017 16:53:52
Rumours now circulating that we have moved on from Van Dijk and have made an offer for Stefan De Vrij.

No idea how trustworthy these are.

Any ideas anyone? Eds?

RedDawn

{Ed002's Note - I can't help, sorry. He would however be a good buy.}


1.) 07 Jun 2017 17:17:48
I'd tend to agree on that Ed002. Given that he is in the last year of his contract the fee is likely to also be a bit more reasonable.

A little concerned by the fact that he primarily plays on the right of the CBs though. We saw how much Lovren struggled when he was moved from LCB to RCB.


2.) 07 Jun 2017 17:25:11
Its being reported on Football Italia via Sky that we have had a €20m bid turned down, with Lazio apparently holding out for closer to €35m.

He would be just over half the cost of VVD.

I know nothing about him other than it was reported 2 years ago that he was keen on a move to Liverpool when he left Feyenord, and was ultimately bought by Lazio.

Ed002, would you be able to elaborate on why you think he would be a good option?

Also, any views from peeps who watch the Italian league?

{Ed002's Note - I am not sure where you get the "just over half" rom but De Vrij's contract is running down and he is a very good player who is attracting interest from a number of high-profile sides.}


3.) 07 Jun 2017 18:00:38
Thanks Ed002, I should steer clear of finances!

I was talking purely in terms of reported transfer fees, with Lazio holding for c£30m (€35m according to the Football Italia report) and VVD costing c£60m + or -. I think the figures reported by the journalist who broke the story (can't remember his name) are just over £50m including add ons, although that could indeed go up significantly if tapping up is an issue, as you said in reply to another post.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has not struck any financial deal with Southampton whatsoever.}


4.) 07 Jun 2017 18:21:30
Is De Vrij not a bit of a crock?

{Ed002's Note - Yes.}


 

 

10 Apr 2017 10:14:34
My Real Madrid supporting cow orker has sworn blind that Bale is going back to the Premier League this summer.

He says that United is the most likely destination but there is also interest from Chelsea and Liverpool.

I've told him that he needs a long lie down.

Back me up here Eds, there's no way Bale is going to end up at Liverpool, right?

RedDawn

{Ed002's Note - You can tell your cow orker that Bale will not be moving to Liverpool this summer.}


1.) 10 Apr 2017 10:42:06
Thank you Ed002. Quality player but just can't see why he would be attracted to Liverpool and how we could possibly afford him.

Have a great day.

Hope you're enjoying the sunshine if you're UK based at the mo.

{Ed002's Note - It is a pleasant day here thank you.}


2.) 10 Apr 2017 11:15:37
As usual so called liverpool fans say every player is too big for lfc jokers coutinho firming better than any one in thebpremier
If l
Koop wants a player we will get him
1st signing Theo alaves/ attleti.

{Ed001's Note - what has it got to do with being too big? There are a number of reasons why, nothing to do with size, except size of fee and salary.}


3.) 10 Apr 2017 11:49:29
What a strange reply.

I meant it in the way that he is a Cardiff born guy who spent the whole of his youth career on the South Coast and then settled in London, a major capital city. He then moved to Madrid, a major capital city, and lived in the sun being paid £350k a week to do so playing with some of the best players in the world getting to the latter stages of the Champions League every year.

Why on earth would he want to move to the North West of England to a team that has only challenged for their domestic title once in the last 15 years, unless it's going to be for a lot more money. which we can't afford. Only United could even get close to affording what he would want.

It's not about "so called Liverpool fans" saying a player is too big, it's about understanding that this isn't Football Manager where you can just sign whoever you want.


4.) 10 Apr 2017 12:16:33
No player is bigger than the club. 👍🏼.


5.) 10 Apr 2017 13:44:27
Well said Mikey but I'm still working out what someone who orks cows actually does? I'm hoping it's not missing a p in there somewhere.


6.) 10 Apr 2017 13:52:17
How do you ork a cow?

{Ed001's Note - it is obviously a D&D reference....}


7.) 10 Apr 2017 15:32:21
I don't know any cow orkers who support Real Madrid.
I think it's a load of bull.


8.) 10 Apr 2017 23:13:15
You have it all wrong . It's the orkers cow that supports Real Madrid.


 

 

01 Feb 2017 12:49:39
Hi all,

I was just wondering if anyone is aware what the plan with Flanagan is?

He was sent on loan, apparently with some sort of weird clause about having to play a certain percentage of games, but hasn't started a game since October.

Does he have a future at Liverpool or is he one more to be added to the scrap heap?

Cheers all

RedDawn

1.) 01 Feb 2017 16:31:19
Doesn't have a future, he's struggled to get any real game time this season, championship is his level


2.) 01 Feb 2017 22:04:26
Championship my arse . he is quality just had injuries/ issues which have massively hindered his progress. out of site out of mind. love to see him back in a red shirt. cracking little player.


3.) 01 Feb 2017 23:51:10
He's just not quality at all, with Klopp's system you need full backs who are suited to playing like wingers in possession and bombing forward at any given moment. He's simply not good enough or suited to a team who has aspirations to be challenging for trophies. If he wasn't a local lad people the majority of people would judge him completely differently.


4.) 02 Feb 2017 01:49:54
It baffles me how many people still rate him, he had a fairly good season in 13/ 14 but his all round game just isn't up to standard, love the guys passion and commitment but we need to take off the red specs. I think he has made 5 appearances at Burnley, just not good enough for a club who have ambitions of being CL regulars.


5.) 02 Feb 2017 03:39:25
Unfortunately injuries have hampered his career but I wouldn't rule out if he comes back into form he could become very useful to a PL club, but suspect unlikely at liverpool as he's primarily defensively minded.

{Ed025's Note - which is just what you need zimbo..


6.) 02 Feb 2017 10:31:05
Still technically a Liverpool player so he gets my support but I do believe he'll be off probably in the summer. Good player but not for us. Championship level? No, would fit right in with a team like stoke.


7.) 02 Feb 2017 11:17:54
He was brilliant 13/ 14 season and has struggled with injuries since, he hasn't been seen for past couple years so how can anyone really judge him. where he's from has nothing to do with it. that's a massive chip on some people's shoulders.


8.) 02 Feb 2017 12:40:12
Quality. Ignore loans. Unless there is a certain clause to buy him you donr build your tem around someone who isn't going to be here next yearm

A loan is usually just to bulk uo the numbers ans cover your first team.


9.) 02 Feb 2017 06:18:31
Fair play but I don't think that's what Klopp has in mind is what I meant.

{Ed025's Note - liverpools biggest problem is the defence zimbo and flanno cant be much worse than whats there at the moment mate..


10.) 03 Feb 2017 13:03:01
Agree with 25 Flanno for me is an improvement on all 3 current fullbacks that we have. It wasn't a 1 off season really where he looked good, even when called into action at 17 he kept Theo Walcott and his pace in his pocket all game, and played well when given opportunities in other games at 17/ 18.
Injuries have hampered him, so he hasn't been able to pla, He's looked good when I;ve watched his appearances at Burnley too, sadly he's only there to fill out their squad and give it depth. He certainly looks better than Lowton when gien chaces.


11.) 03 Feb 2017 13:36:39
Flanno might not be the greatest footballer but what he brings to the table is passion and desire which you won't see from him unless he is wearing a red shirt! He is a true Liverpool fan that will put it on the line for the club and its in the games against the lesser teams that he could be invaluable for us.

Just think back to the game we beat Arsenal 6-1 he had us up and at em from the first minute and was arguably man of the match against one of the best footballing sides in the league. talent only takes you so far on matchday the rest comes down to heart and Flanno has plenty of that. something we havelacked and has cost us games this season. Its a shame that so called fans will slate off one of the only true Liverpool fans at the club.


12.) 03 Feb 2017 13:08:26
Can you see Flanno been given a chance at Liverpool?


13.) 03 Feb 2017 22:44:46
Flanno is too slow both physically and mentally. Gets done by pace snd tricks every time and offers little going forward.


14.) 03 Feb 2017 22:54:10
Slimz great post.


 

 

31 Mar 2016 12:12:18
Hi Eds,

Rumours circulating the tabloids about Liverpool tabling an offer for Higuain.

I am pretty sure you will say that no official offer has been made, but are we interested in him?

I can only assume that pursuing a striker, especially one that expensive, means that arrangements have been made for Benteke already.

Or is it all just balderdash?

Cheers in advance.

RedDawn

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has not sold Benteke and has not made any offer for or shown any interest in Higuain.}


 

 

 

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15 Aug 2017 13:35:29
Afternoon Ed002,
..............

Cheers in advance.

RedDawn

{Ed002's Note - It is not a matter for discussion.}


1.) 15 Aug 2017 14:51:03
Yep that's fair enough, Cheers mate.


 

 

12 Aug 2017 11:33:05
Good looking team today.

Really hope Moreno and Can kick on. Moreno because we've shown faith and Can to prove he deserves a new deal.

Good luck to the boys today!

RedDawn

 

 

11 Aug 2017 13:16:23
I'd just stick up a notice saying the site is "Down for maintenance" Eds.

This is going to get painful for you and I can't see it getting better until the 1st September.

My deepest sympathies.

RedDawn

1.) 11 Aug 2017 13:30:07
I only told the Eds a few days ago a massive server upgrade would be needed, that reminds me must head to the doctor and stick my name down for a heart transplant it's not going to last much longer.


 

 

11 Aug 2017 11:12:43
Ed001, i'm not foolish enough to hold you to anything expressed as an opinion but you said that you thought Coutinho would leave.

Has that feeling changed given FSG's statement?

Or is it all just a bit of posturing before a deal being concluded?

Cheers in advance.

RedDawn

{Ed001's Note - they said the same thing before Suarez was sold. It is meaningless mate. I hope they will hold out, but it just feels like they are putting the ball squarely in Coutinho's court and saying you will have to publicly ask to go, which is what I expected anyway.}


1.) 11 Aug 2017 11:22:33
Wasn't the Suarez statement about any rival?

Your right tho a transfer request could change things. Would hope that wouldn't be the case in Coutinho. I really think the club just feel they don't have the time to replace him. He'll go next year or as soon as we do have a replacement ready.


2.) 11 Aug 2017 11:29:25
I will be relieved only after the window closes. These days with the money swirling around, you never know if Barcelona lose their heads completely and offer all the Neymar money for Coutinho. Pretty sure FSG will then be tempted.
But for now, the fanbase is appeased and VVD joins LFC so we can launch a credible title challenge.


3.) 11 Aug 2017 11:24:31
Yup good call ed001 and we weweRe saying this a few days ago aye. I think is the right thing for the club to do too. Club can come out of this very well either way. We'll end up with Coutinho and look good for holding our ground or he'll go via transfer request and we'll get sympathy (maybe, loads of fans just seem to have it in for FSG) .

Anyways really interesting to see what Coutinho is prepared to do. Tbh I'd almost respect him more if he pushed for he what he wants!

{Ed001's Note - I am happy to let him choose. Liverpool used to treat the players with respect and that is one of the things we were famous for. Players were allowed to go if they wanted and, when their career with us came to an end, they were given cheap or free transfers to the club of their choice as a thank you. A good reputation goes a long way in recruiting future signings, it would be nice if we once again had one.}


4.) 11 Aug 2017 11:31:44
Ed do you think coutino is the type of person to publicly say he wants to go. Obviously don't know him personally but i get the feeling that he really doesn't want to go down the route. Whereas Suarez would feel no way about it. Do you reckon he will?

{Ed002's Note - I would doubt that he will come out in public and say anything, but we know he wants to move to Barcelona. The club are not willing to sell him.}


5.) 11 Aug 2017 11:39:58
Relax guys, he's going nowhere. Not even a transfer request is going to pry him away from us. The statement was very to the point that he will be a Liverpool player when the window closes and I'm confident that a statement with that much certainty behind it should be taken as definite. Trust in Klopp, Trust in FSG, Trust in Liverpool.

YNWA Watford 0 - 4 Liverpool.


6.) 11 Aug 2017 11:42:06
Ye true ed1 and interesting thought.
How do you see those values expressed in modern times?

{Ed001's Note - Chelsea have shown it by allowing Cech to move and sign for a rival team. It is not difficult, you just have to forget about rivalries etc and treat everyone with respect. Rivalries should be purely on the pitch, off it the clubs should work together to do what is best for the sport.}


7.) 11 Aug 2017 11:49:55
Don't see Coutinho forcing a transfer. Just not that kind of person and he has been genuine so far about LFC giving him a platform to showcase his talent after a disastrous spell at Inter. He will give his all this season, have a good World Cup and then wait to see if Barcelona reignite their interest. If they have moved on to Verratti or another midfielder, then great for LFC. If not, he joins Barcelona next season with LFC's blessings and we sign Keita as his replacement.


8.) 11 Aug 2017 12:00:33
Hi Ed01
It's a lot easier to allow players to go when you are on top of the pile winning leagues on a regular basis. Most of your best players won't want to go anywhere. We're now in a different position.

{Ed001's Note - you mean like when Keegan went? Or Souness? That is simply not true mate, players will always want to move around if it suits them. However, treat them with respect and they will be happy where they are, those that do move will regret it and spend the rest of their time telling others that they should stay. Otherwise, what you end up with is a bunch of mercenaries who never invest emotionally in the team and so never perform to the very best they can. Look at those that have stayed a long time, such as Lucas, who then became the catalyst for other players, such as Coutinho and Firmino, to arrive. He speaks in such glowing terms of the city and club that it attracts players to want to join.}


9.) 11 Aug 2017 12:11:53
Lucas is a excellent example Ed.


 

 

11 Aug 2017 10:53:49
Mornin' Ed001,

Hope your man flu is improving.

We know that you are not VVD's biggest fan. Personally I think he is a marked improvement on what we have and could get even better with the right coaching.

Given the position we are in the window who would you like to push to sign for the CB position that would be a feasible option at this time?

Would you push for VVD given he is "desperate" to join us? Would you go for someone else, if so, who? Or would you just forget it, stick with what we have and look again in the future?

Cheers in advance.

RedDawn

{Ed001's Note - considering that our actions have massively contributed to the situation that VVD is in, I feel we have to do the right thing by him and sort something out with Southampton. It is only right. Then we should sit down with all the clubs we have wronged over recent years and apologise for our actions. Then the club should produce a set of guidelines for all staff to abide by, a proper enforced and enforcable code of conduct for dealings with other clubs. Sorry got a little carried away then! The answer is VVD.}


1.) 11 Aug 2017 11:15:15
I would have to agree on all points made above as well as perhaps offer Sakho at a knockdown price to them (Klopp obviously doesn't want to repair this relationship) .
We owe them something, we messed with their player.
We also seemed to have messed him around too in terms of different wages offered I have been told.
We need to make this right with Southampton and with anybody else such as Fulham and Stoke who have an axe to grind against us.
It's not difficult, but pride will have to be tucked away and we'd need to let these clubs tell us what they want us to do to go back to having a clean slate with them.


2.) 11 Aug 2017 11:15:27
Cheers Ed

I agree with you on all of that tbh. We need to fix things with the last person/ club we messed around and work backwards fixing the problems.

As a club we should be viewed as a pleasure to deal with not a horror.

I hope the higher ups are looking at how to rectify our bad reputation on these issues.


(Oh but I would've preferred Koulibaly, Wilson or John Brooks (injuries permitting) over VVD if we hadn't messed him around in the first place)


3.) 11 Aug 2017 11:25:28
enforcement of the guideline will be important. maybe a man specific to monitor and ensure that we work within the rules and we also comply to the internal guideline that you mentioned. possibly review the internal guideline periodically to ensure it is inline with any changes made to the rules as well.

this would ensure continuity as like players, managers are also transient employees of the club. things should be carried forward whether there is a change of manager or not.


4.) 11 Aug 2017 11:15:15
I would have to agree on all points made above as well as perhaps offer Sakho at a knockdown price to them (Klopp obviously doesn't want to repair this relationship) .
We owe them something, we messed with their player.
We also seemed to have messed him around too in terms of different wages offered I have been told.
We need to make this right with Southampton and with anybody else such as Fulham and Stoke who have an axe to grind against us.
It's not difficult, but pride will have to be tucked away and we'd need to let these clubs tell us what they want us to do to go back to having a clean slate with them.


5.) 11 Aug 2017 11:15:27
Cheers Ed

I agree with you on all of that tbh. We need to fix things with the last person/ club we messed around and work backwards fixing the problems.

As a club we should be viewed as a pleasure to deal with not a horror.

I hope the higher ups are looking at how to rectify our bad reputation on these issues.


(Oh but I would've preferred Koulibaly, Wilson or John Brooks (injuries permitting) over VVD if we hadn't messed him around in the first place)


6.) 11 Aug 2017 11:44:01
That was obviously meant to be Gibson not Wilson. I'm so glad it's Friday.


7.) 11 Aug 2017 12:24:29
Given all we have done in this horrible Saga and if we finally manage to get him like we wanted it could easily become a romantic hollywood classic. it would bag oscars and all.
on another note if we sign VVD i don't think he will have a wonder season, i dare say we might have messed the lad up. it would take time for him to put this behind him.


 

 

 

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15 Aug 2017 12:39:15
I may have got completely crossed wires on this but I was under the impression that Juve were looking at N'Zonzi or Can.

If that's true and they will wrap up N'Zonzi and not pursue Can then I would rather us just stick with Can instead of paying out quite a large sum for N'Zonzi.

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14 Aug 2017 15:43:19
To be fair to Macca he gives us the information he has.

At the time he said VVD was done most in the club thought it was. but we royally screwed it up.

At the time he said Keita would be done most in the club thought it was. but we didn't understand RBL's position.

At the time he said Coutinho would stay he hadn't handed in a transfer request.

Macca can only provide the info as he knows it and it would appear, by what has come out since, that his info was spot on in relation to what the club were doing and believing at the time.

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10 Aug 2017 20:38:52
Pounds? Euros? Zloty?

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10 Aug 2017 13:56:49
Ed002 mentions the name Luan in a response a couple of days ago and before long the rest of the internet catches up.

That's why i trust this site.

Either other journos have seen Ed's post and copied it, or Ed002 was first to reveal it.

Either way, this is the site to trust.

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09 Aug 2017 16:18:57
Cheers Macca. Brace yourselves Eds.

For what it's worth selling Coutinho and buying Keita would not be a bad move in my view. If we end up slightly up overall on those transfers I think we can consider that a success.

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18 Aug 2017 18:52:34
Davinson Sanchez is bambi on ice and is out of position more often than Moreno.

Rodriguez has had 2/ 3 bad seasons now.

No thanks.

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17 Aug 2017 12:39:53
You're talking about Southampton being interested in a player and how that would impact another Southampton player.

I have no idea how you cannot see that that is a question for the Southampton page.

Plus if you took 2 minutes to venture to the Southampton page you would see this question discussed about 3 posts from the top.

No wonder the Eds get annoyed.

Cheers for all your hard work Eds, this site is invaluable for us obsessed losers who want to know everything about anything about our club.

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17 Aug 2017 10:59:13
To be hones ti'm more concerned about the fact that Macca has said someone from the club has been in contact with Keita. given RBL's stance so far this could be very dangerous.

Either we are yet again tapping up, or privately RBL's stance has changed somewhat and we have been allowed to talk to the player.

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16 Aug 2017 17:48:43
Klopp (about Coutinho) :

"If you say he is not available to be sold, where is the interpretation? " Klopp reiterated on Monday.

"The word 'not' means there is no interpretation. There is nothing new. "

Seems pretty conclusive.

People say lots of stuff. I'm not ruling anything out until the window shuts.

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16 Aug 2017 10:39:05
For me we don't need a DM. We need two intelligent holding midfielders who know when to drop into spaces left when the full backs or CBs go AWOL.

I know Moreno was foolish in charging down the GK for their penalty but a switched on CM would have seen where he had gone and filled the gap he left. Henderson I think has the intelligence to do it but playing him centrally of the 3 means he can't do it.

I would play Hendo and Can (or Keita in place of one of these if he signs) as holding players both sitting in front of the CBs. They can still get forward but have protection from the other when they do

That would free up Gini or Lallana, (Coutinho if he stays, or even Firmino) to play centrally behind the front 3. That front 4 will be able to rip teams to shreds on their own and we won't need to commit so many players forward leaving ourselves exposed.

Anyway, i'm not Liverpool manager so it matters not what i think.

Have a great day all.

RedDawn