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12 Oct 2017 18:29:36
Is thomas lemar still seen as an option or was he ever truly an option? Reason I'm asking is if we are going for the likes of a lemar it would surely put to bed a new striker coming in as I doubt we would spend however much on lemar and a striker to leave one sitting on the bench. Lemar would be seen as a replacement for coutinho I would imagine. Gk and CBS are priorities. I know klopp has said Marius is his no1 and now mignolet is no1 but surely he can't be that naive to think either is good enough. Mignolet was at his level at Sunderland and karius while I admit didn't get a proper crack of the whip still doesn't fill me with confidence. Least I say about the cbs the better. Think Gomez should be giving a go. Surely he can't do worse than what's already going on at the back. Anyway enough moaning I'm going 2-0 Liverpool on Saturday . let's put mourinho back in his box.

IR89

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool were one of many clubs that showed various levels of interest in Lemar but he was not going to be joining Liverpool this past summer. Next summer Liverpool May elect to considering him as a replacement for Coutinho.}


1.) 12 Oct 2017 21:29:31
Cheers ed002. Appreciate the reply.


2.) 13 Oct 2017 12:52:16
Ed002 now that your about would I be right in thinking that Couthino unless he has a massive change of heart he'll be off in the summer?

{Ed002's Note - he still wants out I understands. Liverpool can block a move.}


3.) 13 Oct 2017 15:52:57
Thanks for the reply Ed. It's gone on a bit now just get a much for him as we can and move him on I say.

{Ed002's Note - I think thoughts will turn to him leaving next summer.}


4.) 13 Oct 2017 17:49:57
My feelings exactly Ed thank's a million.


5.) 14 Oct 2017 15:58:25
Lemars preference for arsenal is due to their consistent appearance in the CL, he would prefer Liverpool if we can stay in the CL and retain a place. No move will be made unless Coutinho goes, that's unlikely until the summer even though we were told it's now or never, Barcelona are quickly realising their position of power is fading, dembele out long term, they have to show massive support politically to the Catalonian cause, a lot of Spanish players aren't quite fancying them anymore. Interesting times ahead for Barcelona, not particularly positive either.


6.) 15 Oct 2017 08:52:21
Jbleftpeg not entirely sure what anyone could disagree with there. Arsenal had 20 years of ECL so better bet still than us.


7.) 19 Oct 2017 00:33:49
I heard Lemar was open for a move to LFC, but they never bid anything close to what Monaco wanted.


 

 

 

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16 Oct 2017 13:33:19
Would like to get peoples views. I know we had a very very low offer for kabouily rejected by napoli. Was wondering if giving the choice between him and vvd who people would go for. I think both are head and shoulders above what we have right now. So thumbs up for kabouily or thumbs down for vvd.

IR89

1.) 16 Oct 2017 13:46:18
VVD isn't above what we have, not in my opinion he's not. Give us Koulibaly anyday, but I don't see either happening.


2.) 16 Oct 2017 14:10:56
Koulibaly Coz He plays exactly like ours and what Klopp wants his CB’s to play. HIGH LINE AND HIGH ATTACKING! And most importantly he is a very good defender. I like VVD and he has potential but I don’t know what will happen to him if he play in our set up without a STOPPER infront of him!


3.) 16 Oct 2017 14:12:10
You like your capitals don't you harry mate lol.


4.) 16 Oct 2017 14:13:01
Not above what we have? Even if your not a fan of VVD, nobody in the entire world can argue he's not better than the absolute garbage we've got at CB.


5.) 16 Oct 2017 17:04:07
Fowler, your "absolute garbage" comment is a bit harsh and OTT, IMO. Our Cb''s are not great BUT they are not garbage either. Steady with the hyperbole there, mate.

As for Koulibaly or VVD, either one would work for me as either would be a step in the right direction.


6.) 16 Oct 2017 19:38:16
But according to you in the post below VVD is not good, ain’t it Bingo mate? Please avoid replying me with a 4 para post!


7.) 16 Oct 2017 22:23:16
No I did not, Harry. I said he has flaws in his game and that is concerning. Potentially, he could be great and if he buckles down and fixes his concentration issues cos right now, he seems to have downed tools at Saints.

As for the replies, don't read the replies. It's that simple.


8.) 17 Oct 2017 04:51:14
Koulibaly or Manolas for me. Yes they are playing in a slower league but they are both getting a brilliant education on the technical side of defending not to say the dark arts of defending. wouldn't be bullied, concentrate well and are fast.


9.) 17 Oct 2017 10:42:38
I feel like he's always yelling at us Corleone haha.


 

 

08 Oct 2017 08:50:26
Hi eds. Just a quick question is it true that fsg have slapped a 1bn price tag on lfc? Is it also true that there has been preliminary talks about selling LFC?

IR89

{Ed002's Note - Slapped? And would these talks of happened at half-time during the Newcastle game? Were FSG staying at the Gateshead Hilton (where, to be honest, I spent two days this week)? I would not hold your breath.}


1.) 08 Oct 2017 12:15:04
I didn't hear of any rodeos in that area, pleasure visit?


2.) 08 Oct 2017 13:01:44
Thanks ed002. I had a feeling it was internet trash. Need to stop reading that nonsense. When I hear it from yourself that we are being taken over I'll ask questions then. Thanks eds much appreciated.

{Ed002's Note - I just don't see that AS attending a Newcastle game signifies anything about Liverpool. If the question had been about Newcastle that would have been different.}


3.) 08 Oct 2017 13:38:05
Cheers ed002. Probably get slaughtered for this but I think fsg have been very good owners. Yes we have not won much under them as we would of hoped or like but we broken our previous transfer record which was £20 million pound under laurel and Hardy a couple of times. They in my opinion also brought us finally into the 21st century maximising commercial deals which were neglected for years. Built a fantastic new main stand and in a short few years could atleast treble what they paid for the club. Yes people might argue about net spend ect but at the end of the day they put money on the table its not the owners fault despite what some might think that managers pissed away millions on average players that should of never been brought to the club which includes klopp. A takeover whether it happens or not might sound amazing but for every abramovich there is a venky so we need to be careful what we wish for.


4.) 09 Oct 2017 00:15:53
We can't take the high ground with city and Chelsea if we secretly wish for a multi billionaire buyer such as roman.


 

 

02 Oct 2017 16:19:57
A quick question to the eds if you guys are free. Its been nearly 2 years since klopp took the job and at the time there was big talk of Ancelotti. Correct me if I'm wrong but I remember reading that klopp said he could win the league with what we have ( I think paisley would even struggle to win the league with our defence) and wouldn't need to spend too much money while CA said he needed to rebuild the whole spin of the team which to be honest looking at the spine of our team compared to the top 6 is pathetic

Clearly klopp does not feel the same as he did 2 years ago? Cause in my eyes and I'm no expert by any stretch we badly need a gk who can catch and kick a ball in a straight line. A cb who can talk without being afraid to hurt there voice (carra its a shame your retired) possibly even 2 cb's not mad about matip but would give him a go with vvd if that happens and I think we need 2 centre mids and a proper striker who knows were the net is.

As carra said yesterday if that Sturidge chance dropped to lukaku Kane or morata that's 2-1 and 3 points. People are baffling me on here saying we don't need a striker cause salah mane and firmino contribute too much which is great and they wouldn't why cause we have a main man up top? but I bet those people would be licking there lips if a Kane or Torres of old or Suarez joined tomorrow.

IR89

1.) 02 Oct 2017 19:02:00
IR, Klopp is trying to fix the issues BUT we have to wait for the TW to come up again so till then, we have to work on what we have as he is well aware of the issues as Ed01 has said. Also, we scored near a hundred goals last season (92 to be exact) and are top 5 in the PL for goals scored since Klopp took over playing the exact way we play so to me, that argument is a red herring. Had our boys scored the goals our play deserves, this is not an issue. We hit Arsenal for 4 (could have been 8) and this issue never came up so why is it coming up now after 7 games in?

Also remember, the striker thingy is not full proof either. We have seen Kane, Morata and Lukaku fluff their lines as well this season so NOTHING is an exact science even tho, people make it look that way. I don't have a prob with a striker coming in however, we should just not rip up a proven system just cos you're in a sticky patch. If you have a striker who is also fluffing his lines and in a dry spell, do you rip up that system and go back to the one you had before? That is senseless knee jerk stuff which in the end, is what this debate is, IMO.

Had we stopped creating chances then the debate would be relevant BUT that is not the case. Our issues lie in the fact that our midfield is not clicking right now, our defence is well, our defence and our boys are overthinking things when in good positions to score as we saw again last night. That is where the work needs to be done.


2.) 02 Oct 2017 20:31:40
Yes we scored loads and loads of goals last season but sadly Bingo they do not count towards this years league or CL. Have teams worked out how to play against us to nullify our attack?


3.) 02 Oct 2017 20:40:13
Klopp said that he believed he could win a trophy with Liverpool in a couple of years. He did not promise the title! He may be a larger than life character but he's no clown (as some would have you believe)


4.) 02 Oct 2017 20:45:05
Bingo red. I do agree that its not a given if we got a Kane for arguments sake that we would blow teams away every week 4/ 5 nil with Kane scoring every week 2/ 3 goals. Football doesn't work like that unfortunately. But you can't honestly say you wouldn't change a system that has won us nothing by the way so don't know how its so fantastic, yeah maybe fantastic to watch but leaves us massively exposed at times if players are not switched on but that can go with every system to fit a harry kane / Torres of 07/ 08 Suarez and sarcifice let's say wijinaldum. I don't know why klopp doesn't switch to 4231 play a proper out and out striker up top firmino behind him in the number 10 role which imo is his best position as he always drops deep, links play very well and is a very intelligent footballer someone we are blessed to have and mane and salah on either side. I don't get how salah or mane wouldn't score the same amount of goals as they currently are (both fantastic players by the way) just cause we have a striker up top. You would then have the added protection for the back 4 with 2 midfield's not sitting as such but not running around like headless chickens either. Keita will be interesting next season I think getting him a proper partner in midfield is a must. i've already mentioned fabinho think he is a class act. Can pass short and long, good engine for a Brazilian and is not afraid to get stuck in. Gk and at least 1 centre back for me are prioirites before a striker walks through the door as defence is the main problem and think the spine of the team is very poor for a top club like ourselves trying to get back to were we wanna be. Competing and winning trophies on a regular basis and being a force in Europe again. I know it takes time but we are the only club I know going through transition the word that keeps getting throwing about since our last title win.


5.) 02 Oct 2017 20:45:05
Bingo red. I do agree that its not a given if we got a Kane for arguments sake that we would blow teams away every week 4/ 5 nil with Kane scoring every week 2/ 3 goals. Football doesn't work like that unfortunately. But you can't honestly say you wouldn't change a system that has won us nothing by the way so don't know how its so fantastic, yeah maybe fantastic to watch but leaves us massively exposed at times if players are not switched on but that can go with every system to fit a harry kane / Torres of 07/ 08 Suarez and sarcifice let's say wijinaldum. I don't know why klopp doesn't switch to 4231 play a proper out and out striker up top firmino behind him in the number 10 role which imo is his best position as he always drops deep, links play very well and is a very intelligent footballer someone we are blessed to have and mane and salah on either side. I don't get how salah or mane wouldn't score the same amount of goals as they currently are (both fantastic players by the way) just cause we have a striker up top. You would then have the added protection for the back 4 with 2 midfield's not sitting as such but not running around like headless chickens either. Keita will be interesting next season I think getting him a proper partner in midfield is a must. i've already mentioned fabinho think he is a class act. Can pass short and long, good engine for a Brazilian and is not afraid to get stuck in. Gk and at least 1 centre back for me are prioirites before a striker walks through the door as defence is the main problem and think the spine of the team is very poor for a top club like ourselves trying to get back to were we wanna be. Competing and winning trophies on a regular basis and being a force in Europe again. I know it takes time but we are the only club I know going through transition the word that keeps getting throwing about since our last title win.


6.) 03 Oct 2017 13:18:02
IR, I agree with you on the whole and I don't disagree that the system cannot be tweaked a bit BUT you have to look closely at the system we play to understand it. We play with a Firmino-type CF cos of his movement, guile, skill and ability to bully defenders and draw them out of position. The spaces being left behind when this happens, are the spaces that Mane and Salah attack with outside-inside runs hence, creating havoc.

We played a striker in Studge on Sunday and cos he can't do what Firmino can do, he kept taking up the spaces that Mane and Salah normally attack and we all saw how dire he was. This is why we have wide forwards or strikers and not wingers. Look at the Hoff game and Sevilla game at Anfield and you will see how important Firmino is in our system. He was involved in EVERY goal we scored cos of the way he plays and toys with defenders, dropping deep to lay off the ball and the wide forwards attack the space in behind. If you want a top striker, you have to play with real wingers whipping balls in hence, you have to rip up the whole system and like you know, you can't do that. Just my take.


7.) 03 Oct 2017 16:59:26
Bingored. I agree 100% that firmino is vital to the team 100%. He is a fantastic footballer and a player we are blessed to have imo. I don't agree with you have to play proper wingers to have a striker up top. Torres Suarez Henry lacazette benzema (Costa) as I wouldn't class hazard or Pedro proper wingers they are as much like mane and salah all those didn't need wingers wipping balls in left right and centre to get goals. Could they score if balls were wipped into them 100% but they didn't rely on it . If you are going for a striker like benteke/ carroll then to play to there strength you would need proper wingers that could ping crosses all day to get the best out of them. They are limited in terms of what way you can set up as you can only play one way with a striker like that. For argument sake Suarez he could do everything. Could play up top on his own and still cause defenders nightmares, could play out wide, behind the striker ect ect my point is just because we buy a striker Werner would be a fantastic player (only really started watching him this season when the wife allows me) I don't think it would impact the amount of goals/ assists that mane/ salah/ firmino would get. Firmino will cause caous whether he is playing up top on his own or in a number 10 defenders will be worrying about him and he will still create the space for mane, salah or let's say a werner. Think 4231 is the way to go going forward but that's me I'm not saying I'm an expert by an stretch but think with a main man up top and 2cm not sitting but offering a better balance and offering support to defenders instead of can hendo and wini chasing shadows (its great when it does work) but all teams have to do is play long and that is the whole formation out the window.

{Ed025's Note - when you say "firmino will cause chaos" IR89 he is already doing that mate to liverpools attack..


8.) 03 Oct 2017 17:46:15
Ed025. What is your opinion of firmino pal? I think he is a fantastic player but don't and will never be convinced that he is a striker/ forward/ main man whatever you wanna word it. I think him behind someone like Kane which will never happen but someone even more realistic like a Werner would be cause defenders nightmares. People are convinced if he is not played up top that suddenly mane and salah goals and assists will start drying up but I honestly don't see how. He is vital to our team yes I agree 100% but not to a point were you sacrifice a striker of kane I know I keep using him ability. People are obsessed with this formation claiming it works ect but to my knowledge we haven't won zilch and I'm not bashing klopp as I'm a huge fan but he has flaws like the rest of us. None of us are perfect but we can't be blinded by problems that are constantly being talked about and scoring is not our main problem but strikers like your henry's Suarez's Torres win you the games you win 1-0 on a rainy nite in stoke ect. I think 4231 better protection to our frail back 4 and still can be dangerous with mane salah coutinho till the summer and firmino and get a striker in Jan or the summer.

{Ed025's Note - firmino is never a striker IR89, he will be couts replacement if he goes to barca i imagine, he misses too many chances for me and as well as not being prolific he finds it difficult to take up scoring positions, liverpool create tons of chances and a decent striker would score 25 goals a season imo mate, unfortunately firmino is not one..


9.) 03 Oct 2017 18:13:41
Ed025. I agree 100% with firmino not being a striker nor will he ever be. Appreciate the reply ed.

{Ed025's Note - no probs mate..


 

 

30 Sep 2017 09:04:05
I seen ed002 saying that a lot of teams were not interested in taking keita for what we signed him for and were not interested even at the reported 48 million buyout clause.

Would like to ask ed002 opinion of naby keita strenghts and weaknesses? What he could add to our current team if you get a chance. Much appreciate ed002.

IR89

{Ed002's Note - He is inconsistent and very expensive. He does run tirelessly and had a good season last year. Off the pitch he has become a real nuisance to Leipzig and he has elevated to be a real diva with an inflated view of own ability and importance.}


1.) 30 Sep 2017 14:32:51
Thanks ed002. Yeah I've seen the red suit debacle and I'm sure there is more probably going on behind the scenes that we don't know about.

I appreciate your review on keita only reason I asked was because I read loads of teams were interested (I know that newspapers/ certain sites and people just wanna get followers/ likes or so on) was there many teams after him as made out?

Klopp said when he signed him he had loads of people saying what a fantastic signing he was and he was the best player in bundensliga.

Thanks ed002 appreciate all the hard work.

{Ed002's Note - I understood from an Arsenal scout that the club were looking to make an offer to RBL for Naby Keita in the summer but the lack of Champions League football, the reluctance of RBL to sell and an outrageous asking price if the did decide to sell put a dent in that plan. He has been looked at by Arsenal on several occasions dating back to his time at RB Salzburg. Interest was also being shown by PSG, Chelsea and Dortmund - but not at anything like the price being mentioned. The prior interest of Bayern Munich waned with the "not for sale" flag and the potential asking price - they didn't see the value. Spurs, Inter and Juventus all took a look and Inter did speak with RBL about a deal for next summer. Liverpool of course offered a much higher amount as you know.}


2.) 30 Sep 2017 15:13:12
Thanks ed002 appreciate the reply.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome}


 

 

28 Sep 2017 18:15:45
With city looking great so far united looking solid (pains me to say that) and Chelsea also strong. Would like to know how many players people feel we need to get to those teams level. I think the spine of those teams is much strong that ours. I think we need a gk (butland) cb (van dijk) cm to play alongside keita (fabinho) and a top striker (harry kane/ timo werner/ aubamyang)

IR89

{Ed025's Note - that would work mate..


1.) 29 Sep 2017 06:03:18
I think we are as good as all those teams the day we start converting our chances.


2.) 29 Sep 2017 18:55:50
Not sold on Butland just like Pickford. I do agree with Akshit as had we converted our chances in the last few games, we would be on par with these teams right now.


 

 

 

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12 Oct 2017 21:29:31
Cheers ed002. Appreciate the reply.

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12 Oct 2017 21:48:38
Bingo. You love to keep throwing out stats of how much we score ect. Yes we score plenty of goals but having a lewandowski or whoever up front would help us even more that's not even a debate. If you wanna throw out stats klopp has a win percentage that is less than a manager we sacked 2 years ago to replace him? Is it time to replace him as stats don't lie obviously? I don't want klopp sacked by the way. Forget about stats!

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12 Oct 2017 18:10:19
Timo Werner or Alexis Sanchez for me. Firmino to play as a number 10.

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08 Oct 2017 13:38:05
Cheers ed002. Probably get slaughtered for this but I think fsg have been very good owners. Yes we have not won much under them as we would of hoped or like but we broken our previous transfer record which was £20 million pound under laurel and Hardy a couple of times. They in my opinion also brought us finally into the 21st century maximising commercial deals which were neglected for years. Built a fantastic new main stand and in a short few years could atleast treble what they paid for the club. Yes people might argue about net spend ect but at the end of the day they put money on the table its not the owners fault despite what some might think that managers pissed away millions on average players that should of never been brought to the club which includes klopp. A takeover whether it happens or not might sound amazing but for every abramovich there is a venky so we need to be careful what we wish for.

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08 Oct 2017 13:01:44
Thanks ed002. I had a feeling it was internet trash. Need to stop reading that nonsense. When I hear it from yourself that we are being taken over I'll ask questions then. Thanks eds much appreciated.

IR89

{Ed002's Note - I just don't see that AS attending a Newcastle game signifies anything about Liverpool. If the question had been about Newcastle that would have been different.}


 

 

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07 Oct 2017 14:09:19
Agree with Ron. Nobody should be calling for his head yes he makes mistakes but name me a manager that doesn't. It has been an okay start of the season. The 2 draws against Watford and in particular burnely at home were very disappointing. There is still plenty of time to turn things around and a transfer window also to hopefully get a few key players in key areas to get us through to the summer. For me top 4 is a must this season or season has been a failure and unfortunately then whether we like it or not klopp will be under serious pressure.

IR89