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29 Aug 2024 10:50:15
Salah confirmed he is not going this summer. Good news.
{Ed002's Note - Staying to run down his contract for a huge signing on fee next season.}
1.) 29 Aug 2024 11:03:20
Guess we had the opportunity to cash in a year ago and decided that keeping him was more important to the club.
{Ed002's Note - The club will look to a solution in the coming weeks if they can.}
2.) 29 Aug 2024 11:11:31
Ed002, may I ask if there were any bids for him this summer? or will any interested parties just wait the year.
{Ed002's Note - Bids might arrive in the next couple of weeks but I suspect he would want to run down his contract.}
3.) 29 Aug 2024 11:18:04
Yeh a shame to see him go for nothing alright but if there's a man who's earned that right it's Mo. Owes us nothing, still hopeful we tie him down for another year or 2 but all good things must come to an end unfortunately. Nobody bigger than the club, we've survived other club legends leaving and we will again. Let's hope if it is his swansong that he goes out with a bang!
4.) 29 Aug 2024 11:22:08
No chance of him seeing out the decade with the reds? I'd be happy to see him sign for at least 2 more years.
If it is the case that he is leaving, then will Kubo get signed in Jan or next summer?
5.) 29 Aug 2024 11:29:47
That's how I read it Ed002. I don't see it as him doing anything but running his contract down and getting a huge sum next year. Despite his impressive start, I still personally believe we should have sold him for the rumoured £150m and reinvested in a top CB and RW at the time.
6.) 29 Aug 2024 11:31:05
I think you’re right Ed.
7.) 29 Aug 2024 11:31:52
As a modern legend of the club I think he has earned that right if that is what he wants.
8.) 29 Aug 2024 11:37:34
Exactly. Strikes me as fair enough. He hasn't exactly been a bad servant to the club or poor value for what we paid for him. Unless Ed002 tells us it wasn't as simple as this, LFC had its chance to cash in on him last summer and didn't take it.
9.) 29 Aug 2024 11:40:43
If that’s the case, good luck to the lad.
Cost us £36.5 rising to £43m 7 years ago. He has been value for money and given excellent service (look at the PL records he has amassed) .
10.) 29 Aug 2024 11:41:55
‘Running down’ and ‘seeing out’ a contract are two very different ways of wording something that’s exactly the same. Glass half full/ glass half empty.
Personally I think he deserves it, and owes Liverpool no more than they owe him. Both sides have been perfectly respectful and professional during a massively successful relationship.
Looking forward to watching him play again this season and good luck to him in the future whether it’s here or somewhere else.
11.) 29 Aug 2024 11:53:45
It’s mad how he gets away with leaving every single summer since we signed him.
12.) 29 Aug 2024 11:55:33
He has given the club his best years and given us far more in return than the £36.9m we spent to bring him in. He will go down as one of the Premier Leagues best ever transfers. I would love to see him stay for another couple of years but if he walks off into the Saudi sunset next summer I will clap him out of the door and thank him for his service.
Great player, great professional and a great man. He is and always will be a Liverpool legend.
13.) 29 Aug 2024 11:55:56
It was poor management to have let him run down his contract and leave for free.
It was extremely poor management to let almost the 3 most important players of the team all in the same position.
14.) 29 Aug 2024 12:10:35
Club before player always .
If we decide to sell
If we decide to renew
Or let him leave for free next year . I actually feel ok with all options . We know we need to reinvest if he goes if he stays we have a quality player and if he’s going next year for free we have 10-12 months to identify and find the replacement.
All good things come to an end hopefully regardless of salah we continue to be a great team.
15.) 29 Aug 2024 12:14:39
Thing is according to the eds, Salah and his agent has been looking for a big payout for a while, with proposing him to different clubs. Who knows this may have been his intention all along after signing the last extension see it out and then leave.
This is not me having a go at Salah at all. But we don't know what has been said behind closed doors.
{Ed001's Note - not eds, just Ed002. For me, his agent has 100% been looking for a way out, but that is not because of Salah looking for one, which is why he has been asking ridiculous money. As far as I have been able to find out, Mo has never wanted to leave but his agent wants the big payout, so he asks ridiculous money because otherwise Mo would have no interest.}
16.) 29 Aug 2024 12:25:34
It is club before player, if he goes for free it leaves us in a much weaker position.
17.) 29 Aug 2024 12:27:35
Thanks Ed001 apologies for my mix up.
{Ed001's Note - no worries SA. I don't tend to get involved in the discussions on him because it doesn't really matter as the offer was never incoming.}
18.) 29 Aug 2024 12:27:43
Can you see him signing an extension ed01?
{Ed001's Note - I have no idea. I don't think he knows himself yet. The thing with Salah is that he doesn't just want to make up the numbers, so he won't stay if he is not good enough to play regularly and contribute positively. I expect him to see if he can actually be at it all season this time around or if he has a similar drop off as last season. If the drop off happens, I would think he would be looking to leave and go somewhere a little easier - probably Saudi. To be fair to him though, he has not yet had an offer to even think about whether he wants to stay or not. Good luck to him either way, he has been sensational for us and I am just grateful I got to witness him playing for us.}
19.) 29 Aug 2024 12:35:56
Absolutely nailed it Footyfan. As fans we expect players to show loyalty, but then when they do show loyalty it's somehow twisted to being a crime anyway. Damned if they do, damned if they don't! Salah's a legend. He's currently our 5th top scorer of all time and if he scores 16 more goals this season he goes past Billy Liddell into 4th, and if he get's 29 more he'll go past Gordon Hogdson into 3rd. Imagine predicting that on the day he signed from Roma. You'd have been called deluded. Legend is over used but of all the players we've had post Steven Gerrard, Salah is the one that nobody in their right mind can dispute. His sheer volume of goals alone cement his place in Liverpool history. He'll likely still be in our all time top 10 goal scorers in 100 years time when we're all long gone and our grandkids are talking about football and how highly we used to speak of Salah before we passed away. His achievements at Liverpool will transcend generations and even when they're forgotten from living memory, the numbers will still stand tall as a reminder someone truly special wore the shirt for us. Generally though the posters on this site are very respectful towards Mo and appreciative of what he's done at the club. Simply look at this thread. Everyone here is saying the same thing; he's earned the right to do what he wants. He really has.
20.) 29 Aug 2024 13:02:48
Sorry MK, I still can't class Salah as a club legend. Exceptional player, yes. But legend no, for me anyway. He has never once delivered in a final for the club and has actually done the opposite, gone missing. The only final he ever looked like really tearing up on his own was the one were Ramos deliberately injured him. For me, legends so gle handedly win big games on their own.
21.) 29 Aug 2024 13:04:46
I can’t follow the logic that “the club should have sorted x’s contract out months ago” - in this case Mo - if the player doesn’t wish to negotiate or renew.
A contract has a finite period and as part of the process everybody involved in signing the contract must surely be aware of its duration and that it will come to an end? I
I suppose these days there is a blame culture and somebody has to be at fault but it really doesn’t always need to be the case that someone has done something wrong.
22.) 29 Aug 2024 13:26:22
The only time I've seen mo have drop off during his spell at lfc has been after african nations when it held in Jan. happened twice and both times he came back and had v poor ending to season (by his standards) . Other than that mo has been mr consisent during his 7/ 8 years with us, good as guranteeing u a goal every game beit an assist r scoring himself. i've nodoubt he will score 25+ this season.
23.) 29 Aug 2024 13:28:10
WDW3
Bang on.
Zubimendi chose not to join. As is his right.
Mo may choose to not sign a new deal. As is his right.
We might not offer one. As is our right.
Weird entitlement abounds. I want this thing so it must be so.
24.) 29 Aug 2024 13:29:07
How do other clubs manage the contract process WDW? I can’t think of any other major club who have put themselves in our position. It’s incompetence.
25.) 29 Aug 2024 13:33:37
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, that’s what makes this beautiful game so great.
However, I can’t get onboard with fans criticising someone like Mo. Just look at what he has achieved for the club and also for himself. Football started before 1992 but a lot of fans forget that. Look at his stats since the beginning of LFC and you will see what a truly fantastic servant he has been to us.
Good luck to him, whatever he decides over the next 12 months. I would love him to stay, but if he leaves I wish all the best and thank him.
Also for the person saying he can’t class him as a legend because what has happened in finals, behave. How many of our greats down the years haven’t turned up in finals. Plus didn’t he score a penalty in the first minutes of a Champions League Final!?
26.) 29 Aug 2024 14:13:47
Stuie boy. Salah is and will always be a club legend.
27.) 29 Aug 2024 15:38:55
Ed01, interesting to hear your perspective on Salah.
Would like to hear your perspective on VVD and TAA as well.
Even though Trent is a boyhood red, I’m beginning to worry that the long this drags on, the less likely he will be signing.
Part of human nature, it gives you the time to think and convince yourself to try something new, even though you are inclined in the first place.
{Ed001's Note - he was ready to sign, no idea why it never got done. Liverpool have dropped the ball on this one and if he has had second thoughts, who can blame him?}
28.) 29 Aug 2024 16:42:45
Whilst I’d obviously prefer the club to get some money from his transfer we can’t really grumble too much. He’s more than paid us back whilst he’s been with us. What did we pay - £35m?
If he wants to chase one final big pay day we can’t really begrudge him that.
28 Mar 2024 21:31:43
Big news. Xabi Alonso staying at current club. Clearly waiting for Real Madrid when Carlo leaves. Liverpool now looking at another manager.
No point anyone posting about it anymore. He's not coming.
1.) 28 Mar 2024 21:39:34
Real Madrid wins again.
2.) 28 Mar 2024 22:10:11
Big news?.
3.) 28 Mar 2024 22:15:38
"Fly pelican fly" chatting wham lad.
4.) 28 Mar 2024 22:21:31
Uli Hoeness saying it's "probably impossible" for Bayern to get him too.
5.) 28 Mar 2024 22:22:45
Happy with that especially if that’s what he wants.
Totally ok with Amorim. Personally think he is at least the equal of Alonso but preferred Alonso because of the connection to us.
Well, nothing is confirmed so just looking forward to whoever really.
6.) 28 Mar 2024 22:30:20
I'm here for the Victor meltdown!
7.) 28 Mar 2024 22:43:37
First i've heard of it, but if true, is anyone really surprised? He's a Spaniard, and most Spanish managers would dream to manage Real Madrid. You would think one would buck the trend and move to a "peoples" team in Spain, and not one bankrolled by the Spanish elite. But hey ho. His loss, as Liverpool is still the greatest club in the world.
8.) 28 Mar 2024 22:51:34
Madrid is the club he’s waiting for 100%.
9.) 28 Mar 2024 22:52:17
Has this actually been confirmed or is it just from what Hoeness has said? The bbc are leading with an LFC headline but literally the only quote is from Hoeness, which isn't exactly reliable.
10.) 28 Mar 2024 22:09:56
Ed001 and Ed002 have been saying this for weeks, so either the people on this forum don’t read what they post and/ or the Paul Joyce’s of this world just copy what they post here, the Ed’s said that Leverkusen will make it hard for Alonso to leave if they win the league.
11.) 28 Mar 2024 23:24:56
Thats fine if he wants to stay but what i find weird is why hasn't he just said he's staying? surely the Bayer fans would love to know. seems a bit Griezmann-like.
12.) 28 Mar 2024 23:29:43
As long as we don’t end up with dross like Nagelsmann, De Zerbi, Flick, Tuchel or Zidane.
13.) 28 Mar 2024 23:31:37
BossKlopp - what’s wham about it?
14.) 28 Mar 2024 23:44:18
Is it me, perhaps as I don’t watch as much football anymore, but other than Alonso I’m not excited by any of the potential managers out there. Guess it’s because Klopp is such a hard act to follow. I always loved Alonso as a player for us, so perhaps I’ve been slightly blinkered by that, but he does seem to be excelling. Anyhow, got an exciting few weeks coming up, hopefully we can get on a winning run again. ?.
15.) 29 Mar 2024 00:35:49
He basically said that its going to be hard for Bayern to get him. What else is he meant to say? Why even bother with th BBC even Match of the Day is a waste of my time now.
16.) 29 Mar 2024 01:26:31
IF it is true then good luck to him, only he will know what's best for him, if he chooses to stay at BL then it must be his right decision, we must respect that. Not what we wanted but it's not about us.
Only thing concerning me is I too, am not excited about any other manager incoming but we never know what the future may hold, it's not the end of the season yet. Let's just enjoy Klopp and this season.
17.) 29 Mar 2024 01:27:34
To be fair, ed2 said ages ago that if Leverlusen were to win Bundestag then it’d make it difficult for Alonso to leave. Perhaps this is just this likely scenario playing out.
18.) 28 Mar 2024 21:43:50
If you are Alonso who is Spanish, who will you join? Its no brainer.
19.) 29 Mar 2024 02:25:12
What's Joachim Low up to these days?
20.) 29 Mar 2024 05:18:00
Joachim Low is busy these days scratching his balls or arse and sniffing it.
21.) 28 Mar 2024 21:43:50
If you are Alonso who is Spanish, who will you join? Its no brainer.
22.) 29 Mar 2024 06:30:27
If Alonso doesn’t want to come then that’s fine, it must take really big balls to replace Klopp and everything he has built right down to his relationship with the Coty. Expectations are extremely high following Klopp and not many managers will fancy the pressure. So if Alonso doesn’t have the balls then we are better off without him sadly….
23.) 29 Mar 2024 06:30:54
Disappointing news as regards alonso, thought he wouldn't have been fit to turn us down but at same time not massively surprised.
If he stays with leverkusan fair play to him and taking my lfc goggles off probably right call.
If he goes to Munich he would go down in my estimation, hoping to a direct rival after being in a title race with them and all the talking bayern have done about trying to get jim as manager during the race, most definitely wrong imo.
Didn't know anything about amorion 4/ 5 months ago but from what I read he should be next on list. If he doesn't come i really don't know where we go, v v average looking rest of candidates.
24.) 29 Mar 2024 06:45:12
Glad this is over to many people assumed alonso was nailed on, think it’s nagelsmann as ed2 has said .
If it is then he deserves all our support.
25.) 29 Mar 2024 07:34:58
Who would you have then VV of Alonso is off the table?
26.) 29 Mar 2024 07:42:07
Nagelsmann isn’t getting support from me Fatwallet, I see no reason to forgive him for the disrespect he showed us before, awful manager and a complete drop off from Klopp.
27.) 29 Mar 2024 07:50:45
Like a few posters have said, we shouldn’t put all our eggs in one basket. While the return of alonso would be a surreal story, the guys on his way to winning the league with this Leverkusen team and dominating the league, he will surely want to test himself and his squad in the champions league next year and then look to move to Madrid. Timing seems about right. Good luck too him, if he wants that career path and many would, then he’s not the one for us sadly. I wouldn’t want to sign alonso thne have to look for a new manager in a year or 2 because his dream job now became available. The names floating around don’t fill us with hope but I believe we find the right guy come next season. Amorim for me. many say not enough experience, low league experience ect but the guy looks like the over all best fit and someone who has good tactical skill, game management skill and player development. truth is best two managers we’ve been linked with in alonso and Amorim both have very little experience but seem to be the next era of coaches coming through. all my own opinions of course.
28.) 29 Mar 2024 07:58:03
What’s Andre Villas-Boas up to these days.
29.) 28 Mar 2024 21:46:05
I guess that narrows it down to Amorim, Nagelsmann and De Zerbi. Amorim would be my top choice out of those.
Ed002 do you know if his release clause is still €20m? I think I’ve read it has lowered since last summer but I might be incorrect on that.
{Ed002's Note - €20M termination clause and the cost of terminating his staff.}
30.) 29 Mar 2024 08:18:22
Blimey, I’m not sure anyone will want to come to us reading this - we don’t even have a replacement and they’ve already lost our support because they’re not Alonso.
Try a little enthusiasm people, devastating losing Klopp - but it was always going to happen and should be grateful we’ve had him for so long
Chin up folks, LFC are evolving, that’s all.
31.) 29 Mar 2024 10:31:00
So surprised he’s willing to stay in Germany for another season if he wins the league. I really thought the stars had aligned for Alonso to manage us before inevitably moving on to his dream job at Madrid.
32.) 29 Mar 2024 10:54:09
He’d be sacked by Madrid unless he wins everything within 2 seasons just like everyone else and he’ll be aware of that. Staying at Leverkusen doesn't necessarily mean waiting for Real. He may just be an honourable man, repaying the faith in Leverkusen.
33.) 29 Mar 2024 12:46:19
Xabi is Basque, which isn’t quite the same as being a Spaniard.
People added 2 and 2 and got 7 when it was Liverpool, what’s the difference with Madrid? Klopp is leaving this season so it has to be Xabi, Ancelotti’s new contract finishes in 26, it has to be Xabi. Nice to speculate but it should be remembered that it is speculation.
34.) 29 Mar 2024 13:00:09
Not surprised at all. Stay at BL for another season and take over the super team RM is building. If he had joined us this summer, I doubt he would have stayed for more than couple of years before going to RM.
Amorim looks like a decent bet but players have to adapt to new system he brings, and he will need to do step up but in Europe.
03 May 2023 20:45:55
Milner to join Brighton this summer.
1.) 03 May 2023 21:00:40
Gutted to hear this to be honest he's a great leader and athlete and I think we should have kept him another year then added him to our coaching team.
2.) 03 May 2023 21:05:31
Ox, Nobby, Milner Out. Bradley, Morton and 'new signing' Thiago coming in.
3.) 03 May 2023 21:17:33
I’d of kept him over any of our mids he’s loyal always fit gives 200% and a great head to have around!
U look at that stain Keita and think wtf!
If he leaves I wish him nottin but the best amazing man and professional!
4.) 03 May 2023 22:04:07
He’ll be a big loss. Seems like a really decent, down to earth bloke, who looks after himself very well and keeps himself in shape. Thank you for what you’ve done at the club and all the very best for the future Millie.
5.) 03 May 2023 22:35:24
Milner was a fantastic servant and has earned every medal he could at this club BUT his time has passed.
Now the only thing he is guaranteed to bring is a hard tackle with a yellow card. He is still extrememly fit but not elite football club level fit.
Loved him but he needs to move on.
Thanks for the memories James Milner.
6.) 03 May 2023 23:20:39
James Milner has been nothing short of a model professional but let’s take this sentiment some hold to one side. The guy turns 38 in January! Are some looking to keep him until he is 40 years old? I’m not gutted he is leaving as his time is up. I’m just happy for the memories and wish him luck in his new venture.
7.) 03 May 2023 23:21:02
Apparently when Milner was at city he taught himself spanish so he could make the new spanish speaking players feel more welcome at the club. He has been a great signing and its a shame he is going to leave but i wish him all the best (except when they play against us)
8.) 04 May 2023 05:47:21
He could still come back to coach ??.
9.) 04 May 2023 08:37:37
It’s fine, Hendo will take his role now. Don’t need both of them on the bench. Good guy though - strange to go Brighton as imagine he will have the same role as here.
10.) 04 May 2023 09:43:42
If it is true, then I wonder if Milly has made the choice because he wants the opportunity to experience De Zerbi's coaching methods as part of his own journey to coaching?
11.) 04 May 2023 10:08:24
Millie's leadership in the changing room will be seriously missed but he wants playing time. I thought he'd move to a coach/ player role next year followed by a coaching role the year after since he finished his UEFA coaching badges but he has seen the difficulties faced by JK in this last year and this seems to have left him unclear about a management path as an option at all. I think he will become a coach but he's definitely suspended when that will happen.
12.) 04 May 2023 10:24:22
FPF that's a really good point actually. He'll have played for De Zerbi, Klopp, Guardiola and Bobby Robson so will certainly have learned a lot.
That said, he has also played for Graeme Souness and Allardyce so the poor lad might have already lost a few brain cells.
13.) 04 May 2023 13:02:10
Doubt this is true - he is doing his coaching badges and Klopp see's him as being part of his coaching staff.
14.) 04 May 2023 13:24:49
Millie will have his eyes on the all time PL records. Appearances, wins.
15.) 04 May 2023 14:14:09
Overstayed by about 2 or 3 years time to get Henderson gone with him. Loyalty isn't a bad thing but players need to be good enough.
16.) 04 May 2023 15:24:24
I'm confused why people think he can't carry on playing at another club and then coach at LFC when he feels ready? It's not either or!
17.) 04 May 2023 18:04:59
Jones, Elliott, Fab, Hendo, Thiago, Trent, Baj before anyone else joins. Add two more and that makes 9 fighting for between 2/ 4 places. Surely at least one more will be leaving as well as Carvalho.
20 Mar 2023 13:38:27
Ed2 a question if I may. How highly regarded is Mount at Chelsea these days? Is this just negotiation posturing or are they really willing to let him go?
As a Chelsea boy through the ranks with a fair bit of quality, it would surprise me if he left but very interested in your view.
Thanks in advance!
{Ed002's Note - Mason Mount (AM) Yet to agree a new contract and could depart if he is not more reasonable in his demands - and his demands are very significant. Real Madrid and Juventus, both via a third party, have asked after him. Juventus won't match his wage demands but they have a tax advantage, but I suspect they can be discounted unless a trade for Vlahovic, possibly including another player, could be arranged. Real Madrid are looking to move on a couple of high earners in the summer so could afford him. Barcelona have made a direct approach to Chelsea but the salary demands would be an issue. There is no interest from PSG or Bayern Munich who are two other clubs who could afford him. Chelsea are rather miffed with him after making what they consider was a very good offer, and will sell in the summer if a new contract is not agreed. Manchester United or Liverpool may be intererested as an alternative to Bellingham but they would likely not want to match his wage demands and have not at this time spoken with Chelsea. Howvere, change of agent leads potentially to the door of Manchester United.}
1.) 20 Mar 2023 15:23:43
What about Gabriel Vega Ed? Has Liv take a look in him/ interested?
{Ed002's Note - You mean the youngster from Boca or is on loan somewhere or other - I don't recall where? If so, no.}
2.) 20 Mar 2023 15:31:13
Celta Vigo Gabriel vega. Hearing lots of clubs interested in him. I don't think he's on loan from somewhere.
{Ed002's Note - I know who you mean.
Gabri Veiga (CM/AM) Attracting scouts from PL and La Liga. Real Madrid offer an option but the player wants to be a started and he won't be there. Newcastle may make an offer. Arsenal are keen but need to make a decision about departures. For Manchester United an alternative to Bellingham. Celta Vigo will not look to sell unless relegated.}
3.) 20 Mar 2023 16:16:30
Thanks Ed2, much appreciated.
4.) 20 Mar 2023 16:30:09
He's a Chelsea boy through and through. He'd be best placed to come to an agreement with the club given they want him to stay.
5.) 20 Mar 2023 17:47:54
Ed Is mount looking for salah kind of money?
{Ed002's Note - No but more than van Dijk.
6.) 20 Mar 2023 17:55:51
Let’s hope United make a bid for Mount. He looks like their kind of player.
7.) 20 Mar 2023 20:54:09
Real Madrid are interested, Juve too, Barcelona have made a direct approach but Victor thinks he’s not good enough for Liverpool ?.
What’s your opinion of Mount as a player Ed002? Bit of a strange season for him but for me still a very good player and would enhance Liverpool’s midfield no end.
{Ed002's Note - He is a very good player but demands are likely too high. Needs to think carefully about his future.}
8.) 21 Mar 2023 03:31:49
Kind of the whole game in a nutshell at the moment. Mount is a 'good' player but demanding those sorts of sums is a joke. Did anyone see the paul merson clip where he was saying being a professional footballer was harder than being a brain surgeon?! Total idiot.
9.) 21 Mar 2023 05:27:00
Is Mount Oscar 2.0 in the making then?
03 Jul 2022 21:48:32
Evening Ef2 hope you're well. Do you know which team West Ham feel approached Sonny Perkins or can you at least confirm it's not Liverpool. Thank you as always.
{Ed002's Note - I do and it is not Liverpool.}
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05 Nov 2024 22:44:29
Any chance Diaz could be new Bobby #9 role? Even had a no look goal.
1.) 05 Nov 2024 23:16:16
It's hardly surprising he is great in the air can hold the ball up and is unpredictable for defenders to read, I love that our new manager is willing to try tweaking players positions and making other players better.
2.) 05 Nov 2024 23:31:15
It looked a slightly awkward fit at times when he couldn’t hold up play or when he didn’t make runs in behind, but he certainly did it when it mattered and showed the composure any No. 9 would dream of to loft a cheeky lob over Lukas Hradecky and in.
3.) 05 Nov 2024 23:55:07
And to think we all signed on the dotted line to shunt him and his dad to Barca.
The lad is playing really well and Slot has allowed a number of players to flourish since his arrival.
On a separate note, a few of my relatives can be (in the old non-pc days) described as wooly backs, living in the cold wastes of Widnes and Warrington so I have an affection for Rugby League. Living in Aus I get to watch top class RL and there is an expression that more than one coach and pundit use from time to time. Basically the expression is that a team ‘has to win the right to play good football’. it occurred to me watching the match tonight and maybe in recent games that - planned or not - it might to apply to us to some extent. Whilst we haven’t been spectacular in the first half of recent games we have never really looked out of control when we up the ante we seem to find the space we need to play good stuff.
4.) 06 Nov 2024 00:11:37
I think Diaz brings something different when he plays in the centre since he's more likely to drive at the defence with the ball at his feet, which is different to what Nunez and Jota does. Nunez, I feel, is the most comfortable out of the three to receive the ball with his back to goal and lay it off while Jota is a poacher who needs one touch to put the ball in the back of the net.
In my opinion, even though each have their own weaknesses, it's a good thing that they're so different from one another as it gives us multiple options depending on how our opponents set up.
5.) 06 Nov 2024 00:43:52
worked the way Slot had explained he hoped it would. wouldn't expect it very often.
6.) 06 Nov 2024 07:11:30
I love watching NRL, WDW.
Who's your team? I'm a Chook, btw.
7.) 06 Nov 2024 08:55:43
Exactly, @Faith. It's just one game vs Leverkusen team that was way out of its depth. That doesn't mean it will translate to other games. Im just enjoying the win.
8.) 06 Nov 2024 09:10:53
Sadly last night epitomised everything wrong about Darwin Nunez. I don’t think he has game intelligence to adapt to the way we play. He is an instinctive player and not a very good one. His decision making is awful and his finishing is very average.
Yes he brings chaos and yes he chases around like a mad dog and yes he might score occasionally but is that what we expect from a £56m player? (Do we need to be careful as in, is he close to hitting his targets to ensure Benfica get the add-ons? )
9.) 06 Nov 2024 09:57:39
@Rigsby, Bunnies for me although my eldest son is a big Chooks fan.
10.) 06 Nov 2024 11:56:14
Good stuff, WDW.
Skeletor will sort you out next season ?.
11.) 06 Nov 2024 23:06:48
Very interesting man. I love his comment from a few years back. He was talking about RL but also life when he said something along the lines of ‘Discipline is doing the things that need to be done now, when you don’t want to them’.
21 Oct 2024 11:17:15
Ed1 interested in your expert view mate.
Did you think Chelsea had more possession because they did well or because Slot tactically wanted the game this way as he knows they're better on the counter?
{Ed001's Note - bit of both I would say.}
1.) 21 Oct 2024 12:24:40
Any chance of a review Ed001? All good if you're busy with the move!
{Ed001's Note - yes mate, I should get it done.}
2.) 21 Oct 2024 13:57:17
I’d always like us to be on the front foot against any side at Anfield and felt we gave them the initiative but they hardly troubled our second goalie at all and maybe it was done with that partially in mind as well as Chelsea’s style.
Either way, we won and perhaps this more balanced style will be the extra few points needed to be contenders?
3.) 21 Oct 2024 14:24:46
Kelleher isn’t our second goalie. All our players are squad players these days. It’s just some play and get paid a hell of a lot more than others ?.
4.) 21 Oct 2024 16:17:00
For me, I think we set up that way by design esp. after we scored the winning goal. By being compact, we were dictating where Chelsea would pass the ball to which ironically, was the exact same thing Forrest did to us at Anfield and like Chelsea, they got nothing. Just like we got nothing vs Forrest.
If it is time to be on the front foot and we can definitely do that as we have shown already but why do that if the other team cannot b.
5.) 21 Oct 2024 19:07:07
From a wider perspective than just the Chelsea game, the big thing for me is the way Arne has slotted in (sorry, couldn’t stop myself) . Ed02 was very positive about Slot initially when Spurs were looking for a manager at the start of last season and then again when we were looking for Jurgen’s replacement. Not knowing anything about Slot, I was quite dubious when he was announced as the coach but I have to say he’s got off to a cracking start.
The conversation about the Chelsea game, and the possible circumstances and reasons as to the way we played is interesting. I agree with what’s been said but I think another element that hasn’t been mentioned is the more pragmatic, proactive approach slot is implementing.
I’m always going to be a big fan of the Jurgen Klopp era and the ‘let’s get into them’ approach which was fantastic to watch but I have to say I’m warming to Arne and the way he’s going about things. Obviously we are going to lose a game or two along the way, and certainly it’s early days but he seems calm and assured in what he wants and how to get it and I’m looking forward to what we can do. It’s a case of remembering what Jurgen said ‘Believe and things will happen, don’t wait for things to happen before you believe.
29 Aug 2024 18:17:27
Liverpool hardest draw out of all UK teams for sure (even Villas in pot four is easier) though some cracking ties in there for sure.
1.) 29 Aug 2024 18:37:48
We due to beat Madrid hopefully Jude get shown up by grav.
2.) 29 Aug 2024 18:42:59
The hardest draw? How?
3.) 29 Aug 2024 18:43:35
We will have to see how this new format pans out. I suspect Real, us and Leverkusen will all get through relatively comfortably but one of us will need to play an extra round of games. The fact we play both at Anfield is hugely in our favour.
4.) 29 Aug 2024 19:03:14
We want the best teams. Always. Can’t wait for it to begin.
5.) 29 Aug 2024 20:09:39
I think it’s pretty good, especially since we’re playing Real Madrid and Bayer Leverkusen at home. Plus, this time Manchester City and Arsenal have some challenging games in the group stage too, so I’m happy with our situation.
If we finish in the top 8 after the group stage, we automatically advance to the round of 16. Teams ranked between 9th and 24th will have to play two-legged playoffs, and the winners will take the remaining 8 spots. So, by staying in the top 8, we can avoid playing those two extra games.
However, there might be a slight 'advantage' to finishing outside the top 8 in the group stage. In that case, you’d face one of the playoff winners, potentially avoiding the stronger teams in the round of 16. Not everyone would see this as a benefit, but it’s an interesting point of view.
6.) 29 Aug 2024 20:16:57
If we want to have any hope of winning Ol' Big Ears again then, we're going to have to beat RM at some point. There is no way around them, below or above them. The only way is to go thru them. Might as well start now.
7.) 29 Aug 2024 20:27:06
Let's hope we take out our champions league frustration on Madrid. I must be honest I dislike real madrid with a passion so if we could beat them I would love it (Keaganish)
8.) 29 Aug 2024 22:30:07
Is that correct LFCDas? Would the top 8 in the league play the 8 playoff winners?
9.) 30 Aug 2024 01:44:43
Likewise, I despise Real Madrid, but I am somewhat grateful that they've stopped Man City hoovering up Champions Leagues in the last few years. The only team in Europe, other than ourselves, with the pedigree and bravery to knock City out.
10.) 30 Aug 2024 04:37:06
Not quite, LFCDas. the 8 playoff winners each play one of the top 8 in the round of 16, so no advantage in finishing outside the top 8 and playing those 2 extra games.
12 Jun 2024 07:53:49
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15 May 2024 08:21:49
Defence is more of our problem than attack.
If we had two players like Rice and Saliba I suspect we would win more games by having to score less goals which would be the difference over a season to winning the title.
If that's right then we are literally just two players away from a proper title push.
Surely we can find one top notch DM and CB this summer.
1.) 15 May 2024 08:41:54
Having better players obviously helps but it won't solve the issues completely. Fixing how the team defends as a unit is far more effective. Even a prime Franco Baresi would struggle if the system isn't set up correctly.
2.) 15 May 2024 08:44:32
I don't think Saliba would do much better in this system either. Apart from the past few matches, since we have effectively been out of the title race, VVD had been great this season. Konate is also a pretty good CB especially 1v1, and Quansah looks special. I don't think we need a CB as much. However, we would massively improve if we had a DM like Rodri, or Rice. While being good Endo lacks both pace and press-resistance, and Macca is simply wasted as a 6. Maybe Bajcetic can grow into that elite DM, but he would need time. However, he is someone I have immense trust in, and it would be interesting to see how Slot uses him in pre-season.
3.) 15 May 2024 09:22:26
I agree. I know our strikers have had a bit of stick but they've been put under immediate pressure by our tendency to gift the first goal to pretty much every team we've played against.
We need a top class DM and a replacement for VVD at a minimum. Then we need to stop this daft tactic of having to chase every single game!
4.) 15 May 2024 10:39:03
I think we need to move Trent and Macca out of the RB and DM roles. RW/ AM for Trent and CM/ AM for Macca. They get dribbled past far too easily and then people have to step out of position to cover for them which creates this knock on effect of pure carnage and everyone all over the place.
Quansah and Virgil are both very good CB's who win their individual duels more often than not but they're being dragged from pillar to post. Robertson and Endo are both good players even at 30 years old but we need to find younger solutions next season as they play in positions where a physical decline will be very noticeable. Bajcetic and Beck should be considered in pre-season but if they aren't good enough then signing a new LB and DM is a must.
I personally back Bajcetic to make the DM role his own and I think people are forgetting how good he was pre-injury. But also, maybe I'm over estimating his ability to bounce back from it and become 1st choice. I don't know enough about Beck so right now I'm thinking the priority for defence is a new LB until I've seen more of him. Bradley should be first choice RB next season without question and Quansah has to be a starter at CB. They're both too good for the bench.
The difference you would see by not having Macca and Trent getting absolutely trampled over dragging others out of position, would be massive. Quansah and Virgil is potentially a great partnership with better protection in front of them and down the sides of the defence.
5.) 15 May 2024 10:46:15
1. Tactics
2. Defensive midfielder
3. Centreback
4. Left back
5. Right sided forward
6. Left sided forward
7. Backup goalkeeper
8. A repeat of Bruce Grobbelaar's liquid-based ceremony.
6.) 15 May 2024 11:56:39
Thing is MK, TAA isn’t quick enough or skilful enough on the ball to be a right winger and he’s not a number 10 or attacking midfielder in a million years, trying to shoehorn him into the team just for the occasional long shot and Hollywood pass is to do so at the detriment of the team, as harsh as that sounds, I’m of the opinion that I can’t see where he fits in the starting line up going forward, so it is time to part ways.
Putting all our eggs in one basket with Bajcetic is a huge risk, and Endo doesn’t have the legs for a full season, so a top class defensive midfielder is needed. Just go back to the difference that Fabinho made when he signed.
7.) 15 May 2024 12:37:42
Trent at RB, with occasional inversion would be my go to instead of the entire tactic seemingly centred on freeing Trent up to playmake. Watching him vs Spurs, it looked much better and simpler. He even showed he could defend Son in some tricky moments.
Trent's superpower is his long pass. It's by far and away the best in the world. Moving him forward would just make him an above average midfielder.
Selling the best long passer in the world who happens to be a Scouser and still in his mid-20s would be insane imo.
We'd be much better off just simplifying the tactics and his role in them.
8.) 15 May 2024 15:14:33
Think we need a backup for Virg more than a replacement. Realistically who could we get for left CB that's better than him anyway? Van Dijk is not the problem, if he showed this seasons form I'd be happy to have him start for another 3 or 4 years. Lloyd Kelly on a free would have been a smart signing.
{Ed002's Note - Lloyd Kelly will not move to simply be cover.}
9.) 15 May 2024 15:17:02
If we want a better defence we have to play Bradley at RB - he is just a better defender than TAA. We need Quansah to continue his upward trajectory and become a regular starter and we need to replace VVD with a younger left footed LCB. Virgil is the past and we need to look to the future.
10.) 15 May 2024 15:27:29
Virg has had more partners than a call girl this year.
{Ed077's Note - then sadly the call girl needs a change of profession.? or better "marketing" ??
11.) 15 May 2024 15:31:42
WDW, I personally just want a good back up to replace Matip and reduce our reliance on Konate. I'm happy with Virgil and Quansah as the 1st choice pairing. I'd really like to see Van den Berg get a shot before we spend big on a replacement for Matip. If VdB wasn't already our player you'd be talking about at least a 30m transfer fee to get him after the season he's just had.
12.) 15 May 2024 15:35:25
Who is better than Virg and attainable.
Vvd's form has dropped off the last month or so but so has everyones.
I had VVD as a front runner for player of the season with Mac a few weeks ago.
Endo is another shout but he didn't get into the team until Dec and then was away in Jan and had a good Feb.
13.) 15 May 2024 15:46:51
I agree about Lloyd Kelly Ed, but even if we paid 60m on Ignacio for example he would be back up to Virg. Said Kelly because at least then we wouldn't have parted with a mountain of cash.
{Ed002's Note - Inacio will also not be moving to be back up to anyone.}
14.) 15 May 2024 16:32:00
How many minutes has Baj played in the PL, playing DM?
15.) 15 May 2024 16:47:38
Just stick with what we have now then seen as no half decent player wants to be backup to virg. Or maybe Van Den Berg will be brought back.
16.) 15 May 2024 17:45:24
Irish in answer to that.
25 mins this season.
159 mins last season
All his other minutes came as right or left centre mid and right back.
17.) 15 May 2024 17:47:22
Irish Rover, was about 1000 minutes of senior football in 22/ 23 season before he was ruled out with an adductor injury. In that period he was our best midfielder though.
I still have faith in him to come back. It will make or break him though. Elliott came back from worse and has never looked back. Some players don’t have the mentality to recover so that’s why I’d assess him in pre-season first.
18.) 15 May 2024 18:09:39
Exactly that JK. I don’t dispute he played well in what was a horrible season but he hardly played at DM where everyone thinks he’s a shoe in ?♂️.
19.) 15 May 2024 18:45:40
Macca is wasted at No6, we can all see that, and once Endo goes off, we concede even more goals .
Macca should be much further up the pitch,
and please make better use of our subs this coming season .
20.) 15 May 2024 19:00:21
I'm with you Irish. Baj may well be the future DM but he's not ready yet so we need a top class one to play until he is. I think this is the one position where we need a 'ready to go' player, someone at their peak rather than someone with potential.
21.) 15 May 2024 19:06:27
Context is important though, JK/ Irish.
Bajcetic only played 20 minutes off the bench at RB so that’s barely worth mentioning.
He played a further approx. 450 minutes off the side of a midfield 3, usually the left. That was across about 4 leagur starts and 1 CL start. From memory Fabinho was the DM in all of these games I think.
He played roughly 350 minutes at DM across 2 league starts and 4 cup starts. This was where he played his best football in my opinion, crucially as part of a double pivot alongside Thiago who is a similar player to Mac Allister in my opinion.
There was then another maybe 100 minutes where he came on as a sub and his position wasn’t recorded and it was a mix of CM and DM from memory.
Hence why I think he deserves a chance during pre-season in Slot’s preferred double pivot alongside who I think will most likely be Mac Allister. I’m not saying Bajcetic has loads of experience as a lone 6 because he has pretty much zero, but that is irrelevant because Slot doesn’t play with a lone 6. He uses 2 DM’s and one sits to protect and build up from deeper and the other pushes up higher when Geertruida inverts. Bajcetic showed the ability with the ball when he played off the left of a 3 to suggest he will be okay building up from deep and he showed the destructive capabilities when he was in the double pivot with Thiago to suggest he can screen the backline. He came through as a CB so he is defensively minded and that is important because too many of our midfielders are forward thinking players who don’t see danger. I stand by my original point, he deserves a chance before we buy.
22.) 15 May 2024 19:10:47
Saliba would struggle in the system we play cos people forget, it is Gabrial who is left on his own when Zinchenko inverts. Just my take.
23.) 15 May 2024 20:06:37
Mk absolutely and I agree. Irish asked about the Premier league though mate hence why I mentioned RB.
I remember his game at home to wolves and Fab was at DM and he was our best player on the pitch playing the left 8.
That’s not me saying he can’t play 6, I’m just saying he’s pretty good at 8 as well.
Obviously with a new manager and formation you’re spot on that we might not be playing a lone 6.
Baj only played the equivalent of 10 a half games last season across 4 competitions for the first team.
As much as I’m excited about him I also believe it’s extremely early days in his career for us to be pinning our hopes to him.
Anyone remember the Scouse Cafu.
24.) 15 May 2024 23:03:44
It's not so much the system that doesn't work. It's our players that can't make it work.
Other teams play with a back three when they have the ball but they are not left as exposed as we are because they have more and better defensive minded players. Not many teams would play Mac as a six and have him flanked by the likes of Szob, Grav, Jones or Elliott.
Our best team under Klopp very often had both full backs very high up the pitch but we had the players to allow them to do that. Henderson, Wijnaldum and Milner would cover for them.
25.) 16 May 2024 12:51:28
Anyone signing with the view of being back up while in their prime isn't worth having, they should sign with a view that they will break into the first 11.
26.) 17 May 2024 00:14:28
that's a good shout Rigsby. It's something that I'm hoping we address because we tend to rely on versatile players to "do a job" in a position.
03 Nov 2024 10:59:01
Bournemouth left back.
09 Oct 2024 08:57:16
Or maybe Trent is now in the best negotiating position for both options. Perhaps the choice is his and not the clubs.
07 Oct 2024 09:15:55
He won’t be joining Liverpool.
07 Oct 2024 09:15:10
According to the gossip column of the bbc. Clue being word gossip.
26 Sep 2024 23:10:20
Not coming to Liverpool - not wanted.
07 Dec 2024 09:11:44
Well we definitely won’t lose today against Everton.
07 Dec 2024 09:10:16
Shame for fans but great news for our players who need a rest especially as can rest most for CL as well.
26 Nov 2024 12:49:11
Ref fixated on giving a pen against manu. That’s not something in the 90s I ever expected to hear!
26 Nov 2024 12:45:38
So, you’re saying all three are playing better than they’ve done for years in their final years of their contract? ?
Joking or not, I’d offer Virg and Mo two years and Trent longer. No insider knowledge on this one I’m afraid but I’d be highly surprised if there aren’t offers for all three. Whether they accept or not we shall see.
25 Nov 2024 19:05:41
Both have a lot to prove and be consistent over a longer period of time and highly likely all season to prove it before we would need to consider them. They aren’t going to be sold in Jan when their clubs are in a relegation battle.