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22 Oct 2015 22:43:15
Whats the situation with Brannagan?





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28 Jul 2021 03:50:15
watching the friendly (vs Salzburg? ) the other day. Keita stepped out to defend a player near the edge of the box who promptly played a wall pass. Keita turned and watched disinterestedly as his player ran past him and had a shot at goal. But the encouraging thing was that Tsimikas gave him a serve which bodes well for him at least.


{Ed0666's Note - I think you’ll find Keita will be sold at the earliest possible juncture unfortunately that may be next summer.

1.) 28 Jul 2021 04:14:13
Think we should loan him out to less physical league and let him build some market for him tho.

2.) 28 Jul 2021 04:33:00
The general consensus was that Keita was one of our better performers in the last friendly, but I guess you’ve decided focus on the one thing he did wrong rather than the many good things he did.

3.) 28 Jul 2021 05:19:23
It was about effort Thunderbird, there should be no excuse for not putting in the effort.

4.) 28 Jul 2021 06:24:12
He's completely right to focus on that thunderbird. Keitas attitude when he's not on the ball is a disgrace. Personally I wouldn't have him around the team and just get him out on loan or something. There is a good player there but our starting 11 can't have any passengers that only want to come for the ride when it suits them.

{Ed0666's Note - shame as he was a tremendous player at his previous club

5.) 28 Jul 2021 06:55:20
Pathtic though lads that someone goes to the bother of starting a thread to highlight when he was CLEARLY our best player, albeit in a friendly. I Totally understand peoples attitude to the player, but if he can't escape abuse after a GOOD game from supposedly grown men when can he?

6.) 28 Jul 2021 07:00:42
You could go though those friendly games and pick moments that appear to show each player not trying.

7.) 28 Jul 2021 07:37:58
Jadon “supposedly grown men”? I think you’re the child here. His game is being critiqued and someone noted a complete lack of effort in a moment. Sure he did some things right, but you assess the overall performance. Or in the words of Gini is this online bullying now? Take your rose tints off.

8.) 28 Jul 2021 07:44:37
A couple of fancy flicks means nothing if you don’t do the basics like winning possession back and tracking back. He’s done nothing for three years to suggest there’s a player worth persisting and that’s not going to change this year, he’s a complete waste of money and should be offloaded at the earliest, the problem with loaning him out means we’re in an Aquilani/ Markovic situation again where he’d end up going on pointless loans where no one actually buys him and then ends up leaving on a free.

9.) 28 Jul 2021 07:53:28
Surely if you were assessing his overall performance you would come to the conclusion that in that particular game he played well? Kind of contradicting yourself IPC12?

10.) 28 Jul 2021 08:44:40
My post was more to highlight that Tsimikas might have the right attitude. Im going to watch a lot more matches (particularly ones that aren't friendlies) before I start drawing conclusions about whether Keita has changed or not.

11.) 28 Jul 2021 09:20:33
Just judge them all the same lads, don't post what you think will be the popular opinion on here, he did well (probably rare i know) but let's give credit the odd time its deserved.

12.) 28 Jul 2021 09:35:30
I don't need to watch a friendly where Keita played well overall and criticize him on one thing he did wrong. That is just petty nitpicking. There is SO much material to work with over a huge sample size of games I have watched to know the guy really could not be arsed when he does not have the ball.

I have seen him literally duck out of 50/ 50 challenges, head challenges and walking when we lose the ball and under pressure on many occasions. The Madrid away game in the CL alone, is enuff material to work with. Keep in mind that I watched a ton of Naby at RBL in the last season before he came to us and he was absolutely lights out, as ED0666 said.

Well as ED01 has said several times, the guy's attitude has changed since he came to us and no longer tries, is out of shape hence, always injured and thinks he's Billy Big boots now cos he thinks he has made it and bragging about how much money he makes. Just saying what the Ed's have said. For me, I trust my eyes and what I see and Keita (tho, immensely talented) is a flop and his attitude on the pitch stinks and NEEDS to be sold ASAP either this summer or the next.

13.) 28 Jul 2021 10:18:15
he was appalling all game what he doesn't understand is that even mane firmino and salah do way more tracking back than he does and he plays midfield. id stick him in reserves or u21 or whatever until he grows up and actually starts trying. maybe at leipzig he never defended ortracked back? i have to say though based on the three years he's been at club and every time we get battered ie Aston villa and real madrid he's playing. he's THE WORST PLAYER i've EVER SEEN AT LFC. by some distance i've seen players who are terrible but they at least put some effort in the guy doesn't try in any game, is never fit, cost us about 100 million and hasn't SHOWN ANY ABILITY IN ANY GAME.

14.) 28 Jul 2021 10:24:37
People debating (arguing) about a pre-season friendly?
Lol, I’ve heard it all now.

15.) 28 Jul 2021 10:36:54
Player of the year so far. new season lads😉.

16.) 28 Jul 2021 11:06:17
Nathlfc, that's a bit much mate 😂 There is a definite argument that he's the worst signing in our history seeing as he is our 3rd most expensive signing ever. He hasn't got close to what he is capable of for sure, but the worst you've ever seen play for Liverpool? That's an over reaction mate.

I'm going to hazard a guess you are old enough to remember Bogdan, Clyne, Moreno, Allen, Assaidi, Borini, Balotelli and Aspas? Even among the current squad you have to say Keita has contributed more than Tsimikas and Minamino.

17.) 28 Jul 2021 11:07:34
Nath he’s by no means the worst by any stretch, Balotelli, Itandje, Nunez, Poulsen, Konchesky, Piechnik, Kvarme, but he’s certainly not worth giving any more chances to or persisting with.

18.) 28 Jul 2021 11:41:32
He needs to turn things round and hopefully he will get a pre-season under his belt and show us his full potential. Pre-season games shouldn’t be judged regardless of who the player is. What we don’t know is if they have just undertaken a double or triple session the day before or even that same day.

19.) 28 Jul 2021 12:10:10
I hope we buy someone soon, the negative vibes are really starting to build.

{Ed002's Note - Someone like Konate?}

20.) 28 Jul 2021 12:20:48
Struggling to think of a signing that was worse that we forked out serious money for, I can only think of Aquilani, but I think you could argue Kieta has been worse than him.

21.) 28 Jul 2021 12:32:18
mk scouser. i've seen al of them player im over 30 mate, the guys been on the inurued ebd for three seasons then when he plays he never tries for more than five minuites and everyone syas he's the second coming of jesus. allen clyne moreno balotelli and borini showed far more ability than he has ever done and they put in ten times more effort even balotelli ran aroudn more than keita has. The backing up of a man who cost the club around 100 million is astonishing, he can be solely blamed for the financial mess we are inEVERYONE says he was a tremendous pkayer for leipzig but i absoltuely guarnetee he wasnt the bundesliga has the worst defending i've ever seen atackers juts walk past defenders and no midfilder ever covers runs which is why he could walk around for 90% of the game and then try for five minuites like agaisnt brighton away two years ago. every time he plays recently we get battered ie aston villa and madrid and when he played for leipzig in the champions leageu they conceded tonnes of goals against BESIKTAS MONACO AND BLOODY PORTO. A.

22.) 28 Jul 2021 12:59:09
Andy Carroll Mike?

23.) 28 Jul 2021 13:16:15
No, I thought of Carroll but figured Keita has made even less of an impact than he did.

24.) 28 Jul 2021 13:30:04
The bottom line is Kieta has played for 3 years for Liverpool and the one thing Klopp insists of all Liverpool players is they give 100% everytime they pull on a shirt.
We have even seen him laying into Salah for not tracking back so why would he make an excuse for Kieta.
Just because Kieta decides to show us his skills against a very average team does not excuse his lack of overall effort.

25.) 28 Jul 2021 13:31:18
I agree it's a massive shame when he was coming I felt he was the missing link between midfield and attack that would be worth around 20 goals a season at least directly and indirectly but the guy is just nothing short of a prick who thinks he had reached the top with the big money contract and so on. The club would genuinely benefit from moving him on for free to get him off the books.

Hopefuly we can all be proved wrong and he has a stormer of a season but I really hope not because it will be a flash in the pan and he would then get another bumper contract and drain the club and fans for a further 4 or 5 years.

26.) 28 Jul 2021 13:33:06
"Keita's attitude when he's not on the ball is a disgrace2

So was Mezut Ozil, who had a fitting career at Madrid.

27.) 28 Jul 2021 14:30:32
Yeah Keita has been grand so far. I mean come on, the OP doesn't even know what team we were playing but can analyze a player? Which game are you even on about? Keita played against Stuttgart and Mainz. Against Mainz in particular he carried the ball, broke the lines and provided some penetration, which is his job. I agree Tsimikas did well, looking forward to the next one. (still not Salzburg)



13 Jul 2021 23:34:58
Question for Ed001. Out of all the ManU midfielders who would you want for us? McT?


{Ed001's Note - not sure I would say want, but if I was to take one it would be him, yes.}

1.) 14 Jul 2021 06:08:23
Bryan Robson,

2.) 14 Jul 2021 12:14:45
Really Ed1 surprised by that one personally don't rate him at all, a yellow card waiting to happen every game for me.

Prime Carrick would be good. Currently none of them.

{Ed001's Note - he is just badly used by Ole as a holding midfielder.}

3.) 14 Jul 2021 12:36:12
Ed01, why would you want McT? The many Utd fans cannot stand him while others think Ole is not using him well or other reasons. Cheers, man.

{Ed001's Note - because he is a very good box-to-box midfielder being stifled by a manager who doesn't understand his game.}

4.) 14 Jul 2021 17:01:26
JKH you mustn’t watch Mctominay enough, he has 9 yellow cards in nearly 100 appearances in the premier league for United. That is actually very low for a player in his position. He uses his strength and winning the ball well I reckon.



22 Oct 2020 23:08:18
Just wondering if 2 players hate each others guts, whether player 1 could ask his club not to sign player 2. Which makes me wonder what sort of weird and wonderful conditions have players asked to have put in their contracts?


1.) 23 Oct 2020 08:22:12
I’m pretty sure Liverpool were in for Lucas Neill years ago until Carra said he didn’t want him to sign because he broke his leg.

2.) 23 Oct 2020 11:10:17
Messi has certainly told Barcelona who to sell!

3.) 23 Oct 2020 12:03:35
Some of Carragher's mates wanted to give Neil a kicking as well when they saw him out and about one day.

{Ed001's Note - Carragher never did anything about stopping Neill signing, that is complete nonsense. Neill was just greedy and wanted more money than we would pay and got offered more elsewhere so rejected our offer.}

4.) 23 Oct 2020 15:34:46
Yep. West Ham almost doubled what we were offering him, allegedly, so he went there.

5.) 23 Oct 2020 20:26:10
Can you blame him?



24 Sep 2020 08:19:07
Ed001 I had a vague memory you had done a profile on Diego Jota but I can't find it on the player-profiles page. Is my memory failing me (always a possibility) or am I just missing it?


{Ed001's Note - I don't think I have done him, I have done Jiminez and Patricio at Wolves, perhaps you were thinking of those?}

1.) 24 Sep 2020 10:34:13
Just read and only just realised that Jota is the most expensive attacker the club have ever bought in their history. Mental to think that we would spend that on a back up. I believe Jota has a big part to play at the club and he's not here to be a bit part player. Not saying he is going to replace the front 3 as they are world class as a 3 but maybe we might see him complementing them.

{Ed002's Note - That is because Liverpool paid £10M more than Wolves were asking for the player in order to sign someone and pay only a small deposit (which came out of the Hoever fee fee) and pay for the transfer at a future date.}

2.) 24 Sep 2020 10:42:35
Given our cashflow issues, do you think this was a good move from the club to pay the additional amount on the assumption we only had to pay a small deposit this year?

{Ed002's Note - It builds future debt for a club that operates on the edge. It will need to be paid and perhaps the club plans to offset it be sales next summer. Obviously the club is still pushing for sales for this summer.}

3.) 24 Sep 2020 11:02:53
Thanks Ed whilst I agree it poses questions in the future. Paying it over the 4 years at a £10m premium vs £35 up front might be a better solution given our income currently is very fragile.

{Ed002's Note - From what Liverpool have provided to the TMS it is not quite like that - but it suits the club for now.}

4.) 24 Sep 2020 17:22:59
If we made significant money from sales could we pay off the debt early to avoid any possibility of being hampered down the line?

5.) 24 Sep 2020 18:21:10
Probably no point redscarface, probably better off keeping it as working capital for the club and leaving it in the 'bank', unless of course we can get a discount on the Jota fee by paying up early, which I doubt.



17 Aug 2020 03:11:51
Ed001 Wondering if you are going to do a season review for each team - inc how their transfer panned out?


{Ed001's Note - actually funny you should say that, we just did two podcasts on that, as I was intending to wait until the European competitions were over to see if anyone from the Prem won it. I think all the Prem teams are out now though, so I am going to start on it today.}

1.) 17 Aug 2020 14:42:23
City ARE bottlers! Lol. We are far more comfortable on the big stage. It's those six trophies knocking about. We even pop up and win it with a not even wc team.

Have city ever won it?

Next season we should turn our backs on them!
(i always thought that was supreme stupidity. You've finally got a team that can play and you turn your back on it. Idiots)

{Ed002's Note - This pathetic arrogance of Liverpool supporters is embarrassing. Manchester City did Liverpool a huge favour this season and then the club embarrassed themselves in showing so little respect to another club as to write to CAS and then were left red-faced and stupid by the reply. It is time to move on.}

2.) 17 Aug 2020 15:06:47
Why is it embarrassing ed02? They should have won that cl. They bottled it. Again.

I'm a football fan, I only care about what goes on on the pitch really. I had nothing to do with that, neither did our players or their players. If we had gone out against lyon in place of city, would they be pleased about it on the city page, or would they be sending messages of support?

They're the ones who turn their backs on everyone, I was being ironic.

Ed02 mate. It's been thirty years, and we have won the league. Last year we made our 6th cl, that springboarded us into this season which saw us win the super Cup and the cwc, then the pl. If you can't be arrogant then, when can you be man?

{Ed002's Note - The posts have been truly embarrassing.}

3.) 17 Aug 2020 15:26:56
I actually fancied them to win it Ed, and hoped they would for a while.

4.) 17 Aug 2020 16:03:13
I wanted to see City win. Its the only thing that could have improved our season. Either that, or Atletico winning it.

5.) 17 Aug 2020 16:05:39
Dont backtrack robbiesline, you are allowed an opinion on the subject mate. City did do us a massive favour and we spat in their face but people like Bernardo Silva have massively embarrassed the club and himself. Disrespectf, childish and pathetic. He also refused to clap of the gaurd of honour. Silly boy.

6.) 17 Aug 2020 16:26:11
Nobody has mentioned the off field issues between the 2 clubs on this post except you Ed.
All I can see is what a lot of football fans do to each other when they have a better season. Childish as it may be.

7.) 17 Aug 2020 16:55:34
Bbd, not backtracking. If you read the posts for a couple of days ago, I fancied city. But whdn i saw lyon 1 0 up, I really hoped they'd hold on.

I can't believe a team that can play like city, lost to lyon in the biggest game in their history. Got battered! That cl was theirs for the taking. I like lyon for it now. What a win.

Sorry to be ignorant. How did they help us?

8.) 17 Aug 2020 17:12:29
Robbiesline I think ed002 might be referencing Man City’s former scout poaching their scouting records on our behalf. Think we agreed to pay them compo or something rather than them going public. Could be wrong though.

{Ed002's Note - I am referring to them saying to the FA that they saw no need to follow up on the hacking of the Manchester City IT system by members of Liverpool staff that could have resulted not only in FA punishment but criminal proceedings. Liverpool paid them £1M from the slush fund for this.}

9.) 17 Aug 2020 18:04:43
The phrase 'bottled it' really bothers me. It seems that every time a big club doesn't win a trophy they bottled it. To think that a manager and players who have won multiple trophies bottled it is stupid. The phrase bottled it is a modern one that has come about in the social media banter era. I don't recall anyone saying Liverpool bottled it when they lost to Wimbledon in 88, or when we lost 2-0 to Arsenal in the last game in 89. We love football because anything can happen in any game, its 11 men v 11 men and both teams can win the game.

10.) 17 Aug 2020 18:21:16
No, it's not true thunderbird. Liverpool HAVE bottled the league a few times this last 30 years. Its a trophy a team wants so much, everyone knows they want it. And they can't hold it together. Who's the best team? City or lyon? City are twice the team they are but, the nerves got the better of them. Hence bottled it.

11.) 17 Aug 2020 18:34:34
Sterling bottled it on that open goal though. If City are winning or playing against lowly opposition Sterling scores that. Bit of pressure - bottle gone, ballooned over the bar.

12.) 17 Aug 2020 19:12:39
Exactly flash.

13.) 17 Aug 2020 19:14:58
Us not beating Palace that time! Unbelievable. It was pressure. We showed city we were good enough for the title when we beat them with little pipco scoring a world ie. But couldn't keep it together.

This group we have now don't. I think they thrive on the pressure.

14.) 18 Aug 2020 00:26:53
Robbiesline. Even if we beat palace we would have lost the title on goal difference which is why we tried to score more goals that game. Nothing to do with bottle. Its funny how us fans misremember recent history to suit a narrative.

15.) 18 Aug 2020 16:31:17
We still lost the game and others on that run in. We couldn't hold it together.




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04 Aug 2021 03:35:15
Woodburn had bio-mechanical issues which contributed to injuries that have derailed his career. Maybe a move to Italy might work for him but certainly seems like his career is going nowhere fast atm.


{Ed0666's Note - what’s a bio mechanical issue?



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13 Jul 2021 06:07:23
Actually I think he might be correct - Klopp supposedly tapped him up.


{Ed077's Note - that would be correct. Zielinski was at Udinese when that happened, who were (and still are, I think) owned by the Watford owners.}



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24 Jun 2021 04:16:26
He looks great when the game is played at a very slow pace but he looked way out of his depth in England. I suspect he is not very good at reading the game so needs the extra time to catchup with what is going on.




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21 May 2021 05:32:27
My impression of Ramsey when he was fit enough to play was of a player who had skill but was content to coast through matches (perhaps to avoid injury? ) . One memorable occasion I saw him so busy telling off someone on the bench that he ignored the ball going past him and only turned around to see the ball in the back of his net. Ozil copping heaps from commentators for his "lack of effort" whilst Ramsey barely broke a sweat summed up for me a lot of what as wrong at Arsenal.




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18 May 2021 22:43:57
He has had a number of injuries that have stuffed up a few of his seasons which hasn't helped. But Id have to agree with MK that we couldve done better with him.





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28 Jul 2021 08:44:40
My post was more to highlight that Tsimikas might have the right attitude. Im going to watch a lot more matches (particularly ones that aren't friendlies) before I start drawing conclusions about whether Keita has changed or not.




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21 Jul 2021 07:03:52
Tsimikas did suffer injury issues last season - hopefully he ha sorted them out and gets to push robbo this year.




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20 Jul 2021 04:47:58
Luke Shaw was playing absolute crap at one stage - now all the commentators think the sun revolves around him and that Jose was really mean to call him out for his lack of fitness, lazy attitude and generally coasting along without trying to reach his potential.


{Ed001's Note - still can't defend though can he? Still doesn't get back that well and is not even half the player Robbo is. No idea why Shaw is suddenly getting plaudits, he is a weak link, his positional sense is that of a 5 year old child first learning the game. Any team playing against United that doesn't attack the space he leaves is making a huge mistake - it is a yawning chasm to use.}



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24 Jun 2021 04:24:11
One of the tings I love about Klopp compared to Brodgers is that he is much more self controlled when it comes to transfers. Tends to only buy if he is persuaded the player will be good for the team and so is prepared to wait til a player becomes available at the right price.




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30 May 2021 22:43:36
read an article recently which was trying to make the point that the standard of scottish football dropping was due to Celtic dominating the league for so long. With Ranger re-emerging and some of the other teams starting to emerge, he reckoned it was a positive sign for scotland.