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31 Jan 2022 23:15:59
BBC saying the deal has fallen though. No time to finalise it!
{Ed0666's Note - what a shame
04 Jan 2022 15:11:03
Just heard a rumour that the training ground is shut due to C.V. cases and all goal keepers have it so the Arsenal game is off.
No clue if itās true!
1.) 04 Jan 2022 15:18:41
I've heard a similar thing, that only Karius is healthy.
2.) 04 Jan 2022 16:17:42
Fly Goaly?
3.) 04 Jan 2022 16:25:58
Only Karius being available is interesting, if true.
The general rule for the Premier League is that teams will be expected to fulfill the fixture if they 13 outfield players and 1 goalie available from the registered list of 25 senior players.
Karius was not registered as part of the 25 man squad for the Premier League so for a PL game his availability wouldn't matter.
But I'm not sure we're restricted to using just the PL list for the Carabao, which would mean he's eligible to play if I'm right. And unless we end up with less than 14 players, we could be obliged to fulfill the fixture despite all our senior keepers except Karius being unavailable. Maybe Ed002 could clarify?
{Ed002's Note - Loris Karius is registered.}
4.) 04 Jan 2022 16:40:15
It's time like these that they have to adopt "last man back"
The hairline var decisions at corners as to who was indeed the last man back. The drama.
5.) 04 Jan 2022 16:45:42
So he is, I just assumed there wasn't room and that's why Pitaluga was on the bench at the weekend. Guess JK wants to really underline Karius' lack of a future here.
Thanks Ed.
6.) 04 Jan 2022 18:25:03
Haha Davey 'last man back' is a great shout!
Imagine how much more interesting football would be if that was a rule by the way!
7.) 04 Jan 2022 18:33:34
Phil Jones played his first game for 2 years last night. Karius could play and have a blinder, stick a few quid onto his transfer fee šš.
{Ed025's Note - yeah IR, you might get the full 50p if he does well mate.. :)
8.) 04 Jan 2022 19:31:23
Jesusā¦ā¦ your sources are top notch fellas, many thanks for sharing. A bit gutted the game may be called off but thanks for the quality posts š.
9.) 04 Jan 2022 20:13:15
Itās somewhat ironic that Karius didnāt catch it.
10.) 04 Jan 2022 20:51:18
I'd take 50p ed25 š¤£.
{Ed025's Note - i bet you would mate.. :)
11.) 05 Jan 2022 12:16:45
To be fair ED025, he's still better than Lil short arms across the park, never seen so many, central/ not near the top corner goals go in against an "international" keeper.
{Ed025's Note - i was never his biggest fan lancaster but i have to say hes grown on me a bit, hes certainly not the worst in the world mate....that accolade without a doubt goes to karius by a country mile..
12.) 05 Jan 2022 16:58:22
Think the kid at Arsenal looks a top class keeper for the future.
{Ed077's Note - Ramsdale you mean? I am still not fully convinced by him myself. Joe Hart 2.0 for me. Good but not great and overhyped by the media.
But he is still very young and has time to develop.
13.) 06 Jan 2022 12:54:04
Would help ED025 if he stopped eating them blue smarties before games.
{Ed025's Note - he can be a bit rash at times lancaster, but thats because hin previous job was as a small arms dealer mate.. :)
14.) 06 Jan 2022 15:46:22
Quality Ed.
06 Jun 2021 12:36:58
Hi eds2
Any idea how Marko Grujic has got on this season with Porto. I guess at the age of 25 heās now looking to sign for a team instead of yet another loan. Also how much is he worth if we were to sell.
Thanks eds.
{Ed002's Note - Marco Grujic (DM/CM) will be available but at ā¬20M priced out of a move to Porto who will now ask for another year on loan and an obligation to buy. Hertha Berlin may offer an option. If the price is reduced to about ā¬12M-ā¬15M then a sale will happen. Porto were very happy with him.}
1.) 06 Jun 2021 13:53:40
12-15m seems sensible. Better to get the sale done as it works better for both parties.
2.) 06 Jun 2021 14:07:22
He only started 9 games in the league this season in Portugal and has reached the age of 25. I'm not sure how LFC can continue along with this price tag if they truly want to sell him. Teams are looking at him and seeing a guy who's talent has most likely matured.
3.) 06 Jun 2021 13:49:24
Thanks for the info eds2 šš».
4.) 06 Jun 2021 15:29:13
Seems like he definitely off then. I did wonder if there was a chance the club would keep him if money is tight for a cm to replace Wij.
{Ed002's Note - The club have had plenty of opportunities to use him but have shown no interest in doing so.}
5.) 06 Jun 2021 20:08:20
Started 4 of Porto's last 5 league games and both of the champions league matches v Chelsea. So at least Grujic had gotten in to the Porto team by the end of the season. Hopefully something suitable will work out this summer for him.
6.) 06 Jun 2021 23:29:08
Grujic is a decent player. Easily worth Ā£20mil and in the right team will be a great signing. I really donāt see why people expect us to drop our valuations to suit other teams.
If they want him, pay up like we have to if we want a player. If not then heāll remain a Liverpool player.
We live in a world where Richarlison is Ā£50mil and Sigurdsson is Ā£40mil. With the talent Grujic has I think Ā£20mil is a fair asking price.
{Ed0666's Note - yes but valuations fluctuate due to economic markets. You wouldnāt get 40 mill for sigurdson now. I agree with you to an extent tho itās up to the club what valuation they put on a player if they want 20 mill for Grujic than thatās their perogitive.
7.) 07 Jun 2021 06:42:59
Beckerās Pecker, Grujic is probably worth Ā£20m but the fact is that the majority of European clubs are pretty broke due to C.V.. French clubs are in dire straits due to the collapse of their broadcasting deal. Inter Milan just won the title but Conte left due to being asked to reduce their wage bill by 15-20% and raise Ā£70m from player sales. Dortmund need to sell one of Sancho or Haaland to raise money. Even Barcelona are bringing in out of contract players.
Allās well and good to say Ā£20m or he goes nowhere. But in the end Liverpool are stuck with a player without a work permit and come next summer has one year less on his contract so his value has dropped (barring an exceptional season) Ā£14m in bank could allow for greater movement in recruiting a CM/ AM.
8.) 07 Jun 2021 07:40:39
Beckers Pecker, Grujicās contract only runs until 2023 and every year that gets close to the end of that contract his potential value diminishes, thatās not accounting for the market weāre in. Bar a few teams, there is very little money about. And thatās not accounting for the fact that itās not entirely fair on the player to mess him about like that by sending him on loans all the time. Holding out for Ā£20m in the hope that someone pays it means that weāll be in the same position we were in last time. Lowering the price allows interested parties a chance to make an offer if thereās more than one party.
9.) 07 Jun 2021 12:52:23
We need to put in a sell on clause, sell him for 12m and a 25% sell on, if the kid comes good the sell on clause kicks in.
10.) 07 Jun 2021 12:59:11
Vic and Fuser I get what youāre saying but Iām constantly being told that we are messing teams around by not offering the asking price for a player yet we are supposed to pull our pants down if someone is interested in our players.
Heās a good player who could possibly be very good so why should we budge on our valuation? Iām sure if someone wants to negotiate and come up with an offer that suits us then weād consider it but nearly halving our initial valuation is just not good business.
We need the money just as much as some other teams so we need to stand strong and get the money we want for any players that are leaving. That then enables us to dip into the market ourselves.
We have to be ruthless in any transfer dealings now more than ever.
{Ed002's Note - I don't think you understand the finances. Liverpool are paying over the odds for players because they don't have the money to buy them outright - like Jota and Thiago who have not been paid for yet. They factored the Coutinho money to get it in advance and that cost them a considerable amount. Players like Grujic need to be sold to bring money in.}
11.) 07 Jun 2021 14:34:52
So the club are going to have to take a hit on some players just to get the money in.
{Ed0666's Note - in hoping we can sell enough of the fringe players albeit at a loss and sell mane to be able to afford a swashbuckling forward/wide player and an all action midfielder.
12.) 07 Jun 2021 14:57:14
Beckers Pecker we genuinely run the risk of him leaving on a free transfer, then weād get nothing. Itās not even like the bloke is going to get a game as Klopp clearly doesnāt rate him. Iād take Ā£12-15 and move on. We need the money to improve the playing squad and starting options. No point playing hardball over a player who is never going to play for us. The same goes for Wilson, Ojo, Karius, Awoniyi. We also need to move others on too, and the same principle applies to those who donāt really perform and those not fit enough.
13.) 07 Jun 2021 16:21:12
Where do you think Mane will end up Ed? And which swashbuckling forward do u have in mind?
{Ed002's Note - I have not said anything about Mane going.}
14.) 07 Jun 2021 16:28:43
Could we use Grujic as a makeweight to bring in Romario Baro?
15.) 07 Jun 2021 18:24:00
Liverpool lost in the order of Ā£50 - 70 million during the initial lock down and around another Ā£100m minimum last season from missing match day revenue etc.
These are serious shortfalls that probably mean perhaps 3 or 4 key new signings could not be added to the squad over that time?
The injury issues last season lead on from this situation; Klopp was clearly unhappy with his back-up and perhaps the signings that we missed out on would have played instead.
All told, do not underestimate the damage that CV has caused Liverpool.
Itās lost ready cash in hand and debt-serving funds that has gone.
16.) 08 Jun 2021 10:22:39
I think people are missing an obvious issue when valuing transfers. The players we are after are generally among the best players at their current team, or at least regular starters. The players we are trying to sell are players with no future with us, and we're actively trying to get them off the books. We can demand top dollar for our manes and salahs because we don't want to lose them, same as Brighton don't want to lose bissouma/ rbl didn't want to lose konate. We can't do that with fringe players because, eventually, we'll either be stuck with them not playing, or running their contract down. If a player is marked for selling, we should take the best offer received and get some money in and let these boys continue their career elsewhere.
17.) 10 Jun 2021 05:18:06
I havenāt seen enough of him at Porto to be 100% sure how heās gotten on, but stylistically I think Grujic is exactly the type of player we need to replace Gini - he is young, physical, and capable of playing in either 8 or even at 6 to backup Fabinho. He also has some height on him which can be very useful in the PL.
A starting midfield of Fabinho, Hendo and Thiago is top class, and then with backup from Milner, Ox, Keita, Jones and Grujic we have a solid bench. If we can sell Keita and get in another top player to challenge for a starting role then weād be truly set.
18.) 10 Jun 2021 19:20:05
Donāt get why people are happy to offload Grujic when heās never been given a chance. Heāll play at a higher level the Jones I guarantee.
12 May 2021 09:49:23
Morning eds1&2 With only a few games to play. Any idea if we will sign kabak plus has impressed enough to warrant signing him.
Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - Ozan Kabak (CB) Financially it makes sense for Liverpool to buy the phlegmmeister as he has done enough to prove himself, but the club need to think hard about the CB situation with van Dijk and Gomez returning to fitness, the desire to add a starter and the Home Grown situation.}
1.) 12 May 2021 11:07:12
Ed, do you see LFC having to buy some homegrown talent in order to keep the squad numbers in balance? Obviously they won't be overpaying for well established homegrown players, so will our own youth and player like Elliot and Gordon will have to make these numbers up or do you see us being forced into purchasing British? Any idea who those players might be?
Cheers.
{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have a very good crop of youngsters but we have seen in recent years that having few or no opportunities in the first team they look to move on - other clubs suffer similar problems. The Home Grown issue only becomes directly relevant at 21 but the future will see the requirements for the number of Home Grown players for English sides rise from the current levels and, more significantly, the number of Club Developed players will need to increase. As such squad management will become an issue if not already addressed - which is why Liverpool are playing with a smaller squad in Europe than other sides. Liverpool have looked at Home Grown players like Ricky-Jade Jones (although he can no longer be counted as club developed), Michael Olise (won't be moving to Liverpool) and Ben White (too expensive).}
2.) 12 May 2021 11:22:50
With money limited, I'd just sign Konate to be the VVD partner at CB, with Gomez, Matip and Phillips the other options. Spending another 18 mil on Kabak is not good use of limited funds, when he wouldn't even be a first choice CB.
3.) 12 May 2021 12:14:44
Cant be overpaying for over hyped English players! Klopp will bring through some of the gems we have in the Academy to add to Kelleher, N Willliams, Trent, Gomez, Sepp VDB, Jones and Elliott like Gordon and Musialowski! By the time Klopp leaves we'll be in a very healthy position.
4.) 12 May 2021 14:10:38
Signing both Kabak and Konate seems like a hell of a lot of CB depth if it happens, would allow for greater tactical options imo, but need left back cover as well, I'm not sure if we are looking at anyone or bringing up a youngster.
{Ed002's Note - Liverpool bought LB cover in the summer.}
5.) 12 May 2021 14:28:38
I think I read somewhere that Tsimikas was unhappy and was looking to leave, it might of just been one of my booze fueled fantasies like when Monica Bellucci asked me if I was single!
{Ed002's Note - Yes, his agents have been looking for a way out but Liverpool have told them he is not for sale.}
6.) 12 May 2021 14:34:55
VVD, Gomez, Matip, Kabak and Konate would be a nice mix of centreback options for next season. I doubt weād be able to sell Matip this summer due to injury concerns. We may be better holding onto him and selling in Jan or summer 2022.
Sell Philips. Doubt weāll ever get more for him than this summer as if he stays his playing time will be severely limited and I donāt think he suits playing our high line. Sell Davies. Loan out Rhys Williams to see how he performs playing week in week out at a Championship team.
7.) 12 May 2021 14:48:03
Good. good player is Tsimikas!
8.) 12 May 2021 15:08:38
Why does everyone want 5 and even 6 centrehalves all of a sudden?
9.) 12 May 2021 14:41:35
Appreciate the clarification ed, your a star.
10.) 12 May 2021 14:50:06
Hi ed002. I've just read Ryan Bertrand is leaving Southampton. Is he looking for guaranteed first team football or would he be an option to provide competition for Robertson? This would allow Tsimikas to leave (albeit for a fraction of what we paid for him) and give us another homegrown player in the squad.
{Ed002's Note - Ryan Bertrand is not moving to Liverpool.}
11.) 12 May 2021 15:19:45
Appreciate the clarification ed, you're a star.
12.) 12 May 2021 15:30:12
Kabak makes zero sense if Konate is coming. Phillips 4th choice means we would have 4 solid centre backs.
13.) 12 May 2021 17:25:26
Ryan Bertrand would be a better signing than Alberto Moreno, but i'd rather give Brad Smith a chance. Wait a minute. What year is this Marty?!
14.) 12 May 2021 19:59:14
Surly there no point keeping matip he is also make of glass.
15.) 12 May 2021 20:42:58
Who's going to buy him? And on the flip side he's a top player in his peak years. We just have to hope he can stay fit, he shouldn't be starting every week so he should get plenty of rest time. A fit Matip still gets into any other team in the league bar City.
16.) 13 May 2021 01:03:11
Have we learned nothing from this season? Matip wonāt suddenly keep fit next season i wouldnāt count him as an option, on good wages aswell, sell for whatever we can get, Konate and Gomez have injury problems too and will miss games. We canāt just hope one stays fit and play a returning VVD in every game next season, we need to be able to rest VVD and remain strong in 4 competitions and not even consider Fabinho out of midfield. Phillips has done alright but we should cash in when his value is at its highest. Matip and Phillips out Konate and Kabak (or another) in.
{Ed0666's Note - injuries are contrary example being keita when he played in the bundesliga hardly ever got injured he comes to Liverpool and itās the exact opposite. If we sign konate he could be injury free for 2 years or be or perennially be in the physios room. You just canāt predict these things.
17.) 13 May 2021 08:45:21
We also need another DM to cover for Fabinho. The whole problem weāve had is a lack of cover when Fabinho goes into the back line. Exactly the same as City had 2 years ago when Laporte was out and Fernandinho went into the back line.
They went out and splashed Ā£60m on Rodri. We need to do something similar (although I know we canāt afford Ā£60m. Is Lee Cattermole still playing? )
18.) 13 May 2021 12:26:38
ed0666, tbf keita has barely been injured bar one he got at the start he's just been not fit and not trying enough to play surely? and then when he does play he just stands around and doesn't try, i think injuries are a cover up for him not being good enough for the matchday squad?
{Ed0666's Note - keita barely been injured? Are you sure mate? His career at Liverpool has been blighted by injuries.
19.) 13 May 2021 14:03:24
Yeah He was out versus Southampton for who knows what he has been fit for a while now surely itās just a cover up for the massive money and wages we pay him? . When in reality heās just awful and is nowhere near good enough for u21 let alone the first team squad.
20.) 13 May 2021 14:25:05
He's clearly not awful. The player at Liepzig and the player we've seen in very rare flashes here prove he's not awful. Either through injuries or what looks like just being a tosser he hasn't shown his previous form near often enough.
21.) 13 May 2021 23:11:43
I see Phillips and possibly Matip being sold, hence why we would need Kabak, and will probably buy him just to turn a profit in a couple of years time, as with Ben D. Phillips has been a great stand in but he has too many mistakes in him at this level and heart alone won't keep him at LFC. Then there is the one year on the contract issue, and the fact that he knows he will not be a starter next season, and so will likely want to move on. Perhaps to Rangers with Stevie G? Or maybe that's Ben d, who was set for Celtic.
Its time for a mass clear out, some very astute purposes and then our best youth players to be brought in to bulk the squad. We have too many under used, insufficient, over injured players on our books .
Thanks for the response Ed.
22.) 14 May 2021 06:57:04
Why would we need 5 centrebacks for next year?
Has anyone watched this season!
2 of the 5 have yet to come back from season ending injuries.
1 of the 5 is perennially injuried, canāt be sold yet but canāt be relied upon to stay fit. Altho has the uncannot ability to walk back straight into the side and perform at a high level.
2 of the 5 are very new to the league finding their feet, one not having kicked a ball yet (Konate)
Why sign Kabak and Konate?
At Ā£18mil and from what weāve seen it would be a bargain. Konate has been identified as being one to future proof our defence.
In reality itās not 5 defenders as such, more like 4.5 with the view to selling one within the following 2 windows.
23.) 15 May 2021 03:57:50
Ed02,
Always appreciate on players, and management of squad.
Liverpool's current centre back issue is a very interesting one, caused by themselves in my opinion when they didn't identify a replacement for Lovren.
VVD, Gomez, and Matip will be back next season. Phillips, Davies, Williams are still around. Decision need to be made on Kabak and a new signing.
I am very keen to know what you would do in this situation?
{Ed002's Note - Well LIverpool have Van Dijik, Gomez, Matip, finally gave Phillips a chance, have borrowed the Phlemmeister, added Davies, have some youngsters who are expected to do well in Rhys Williams, Billy Koumetio and van der Berg. Kabak may have done enough to make his deal permanent and Liverpool are persisting in trying in trying to add a starter to play with van Dijk. This should be Konate but there is an issue. They have also looked at Ben White, David Carmo, Sven Botman, Merih Demiral and spoken with the agent of Kalidou Koulibaly. Konate would be a very good option to replace Joe Gomez as a starter but it requires Liverpool to find the funds to pay for him from somewhere.}
24.) 15 May 2021 12:01:05
Ed02, what would you do if you are in the driving seat?
One thing I would definitely do (but probably can't, since unlikely to get any money) is to sell Matip.
Also, I would definitely keep Phillips.
{Ed002's Note - I would think Kabak has done enough and sign him as the cost is low and money is a huge issue for Liverpool. I would make a decision over the youngsters and then decide what to do with Joe Gomez who Klopp has been looking to replace as a starter with Konate. Whatever happens, the club needs to trim the number of CBs it has to four senior players and then a couple of youngsters. The HG isutation remains a problem at Liverpool and they do not want to be caught out over club developed players in the future - so need to hang on to van der Berg and the like.}
16 Feb 2021 17:23:04
Eds is Phillips registered to play champions league now?
{Ed002's Note - Yes, in place of Joel Matip.}
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01 May 2022 19:05:10
Hi Edās1
Hope your settling into your new home.
Is it possible to do an article on Michael Edwards. With him leaving it would be nice to get some find out his best deals and any stories that mite be interesting.
{Ed001's Note - I will certainly have a look for you and see if I can put something together. Not sure how much there will about him as he has not really been a public figure but I will give it a go for you. I would be interested to do so as I am not as convinced by him as everyone else seems to be.}
1.) 02 May 2022 05:31:37
What do you mean by not as convinced by him? Do you mean that the deals wasn't just all down to his negotiation skills?
{Ed001's Note - and were the deals really all that special too?}
2.) 02 May 2022 08:12:15
Any examples Ed001?
{Ed001's Note - not off the top of my head mate. I just don't see what he did that was so special, he wasn't choosing the targets to sign, he wasn't choosing which players to extend contracts with etc. So I just don't see how he has done so well, not to the level Liverpool fans seem to think.}
3.) 02 May 2022 09:03:48
Just us not being privy to information, Ed. We see player sales the club has made during Edwardsā tenure that suggest Liverpool have perhaps got the better end of the deal (Solanke, Sakho, Coutinho to name a few), combined with buying top players for an ostensibly bargain fee (ManĆ©, Salah etc) .
Quite how such deals took place, 99.9% of us will never know. We just look at the figures quoted and decide, rightly or wrongly, who won the negotiation. Such āvictoriesā have been attributed to Michael Edwards over the past few years.
{Ed001's Note - yes but I look at it and see us buying players for the price the other team was asking or, in the case of van Dijk, paying a Ā£10m premium to stop them complaining about tapping up. Is that good negotiating to pay the asking price? I mean yes, all of those players (with the exception of Keita) are bargains, but still that was the asking price at the time. So is that him being skilful or is it that Klopp has made the prices seem low by turning those players into megastars?}
4.) 02 May 2022 09:37:11
Without question Kloppās management has made most of those players look like bargains.
That said, as fans we have little information about the asking price of selling clubs other than what we can read on Twitter or other media outlets, a lot of which will just be absolutely fictional.
In fact, that you mentioned we paid the asking price for our players is news to me and, Iād imagine, a lot of other followers of this site.
{Ed001's Note - yeah sorry I forget that. It does explain why we view things so differently.}
5.) 02 May 2022 10:37:11
Really interesting points, Ed01.
{Ed001's Note - I thought of something I should have also mentioned, in regard to him usually paying what was in essence the full asking price. A lot of that is down to the fact we are paying using terms that are not favourable to the selling club ie small amounts up front and spreading payments over time. So that does hamstring his ability to negotiate.}
6.) 02 May 2022 11:48:24
Another idea for an article Ed (if time ever allows) . I think it would be really interesting to know a little more about the process of identifying targets. Does the club use its own scouts or outside advisors, how involved the coaching staff are etc. I'm sure it's been said on here that Salah wasn't Klopps choice, would be nice to know who's chose it was. Great in sites in your articles by the way. Always really enjoy them.
{Ed001's Note - thank you mate, I might even integrate that into the Michael Edwards piece, as that does overlap to a large degree. And yes it has been pointed out on here, and since confirmed by Klopp in interviews, that he had to be persuaded to sign Salah. If I remember correctly he wanted Brandt at the time and we nearly got him instead.}
7.) 02 May 2022 15:03:18
I think the transfer committee is still going at Liverpool, just some different people on it now than was the case initially?
8.) 02 May 2022 15:22:21
Thanks for your response, Ed. Btw, what's the cuisine like out where you're at, mate?
9.) 02 May 2022 16:46:05
I remember the days of the transfer committee hysteria! It's funny how they had such a turnaround in fortunes after Klopp replaced Rodgers. It's almost as if the person who had the final say on transfers made the difference and it wasn't completely all their fault.
10.) 02 May 2022 18:36:14
Rodgers sought to blame the TC when things didn't work out. Klopp has worked together as a team to find solutions. Clearly the TC was not the issue.
11.) 03 May 2022 08:00:14
Hi Ed I maybe wrong here and I'm sorry if I am but I think one of the other Eds said that Pulisic was the top target over Salah. But I think I've read that Salah was third choice so maybe it was Pulisic and Brandt ahead of him.
{Ed001's Note - Pulisic was certainly a target at one time, but I thought that was before then.}
30 Apr 2022 21:07:18
Pep linders talking tacktics for the championship league win over Barcelona. This is absolutely brilliant!
1.) 30 Apr 2022 21:42:52
I saw it mate it's brilliant.
2.) 30 Apr 2022 23:22:52
Thanks long thing - excellent video, not seen it before.
3.) 01 May 2022 13:58:48
What struck me the most is the extreme passion he feels, and talks with, about football and the club. Jurgen Klopp's demeanor and approach is truly infectious.
4.) 01 May 2022 18:24:49
Didn't know Barcelona played in championship ššš.
25 Apr 2022 14:26:44
Anyone seen the Charlie Adamās dive at the weekend OMG it is the most embarrassing dive ever.
1.) 25 Apr 2022 16:34:41
I just saw it Longthing the Swedish judge give him a perfect 10 for comidyš.
2.) 25 Apr 2022 16:45:41
Ah he probably just lost balance. A lot of mass to control.
3.) 25 Apr 2022 16:48:37
Just checked it out, Longthing. Unbelievable. Total and utter embarrassment. To think he used to play for us.
4.) 25 Apr 2022 16:57:43
We donāt like thinking of him playing for us. Dark dark days them for me.
5.) 25 Apr 2022 17:16:43
Tom daley has just said the gordon boy would of won gold for his two dives yesterday in the last olympics with 9.5 10.00 asked can he coach tom next year when got nothing much on the footy front.
6.) 25 Apr 2022 16:34:41
I just saw it Longthing the Swedish judge give him a perfect 10 for comidyš.
7.) 25 Apr 2022 16:45:41
Ah he probably just lost balance. A lot of mass to control.
8.) 25 Apr 2022 16:48:37
Just checked it out, Longthing. Unbelievable. Total and utter embarrassment. To think he used to play for us.
9.) 25 Apr 2022 20:29:32
Is this Groundhog day š¤.
10.) 25 Apr 2022 20:43:34
Is this Groundhog Day.
11.) 25 Apr 2022 21:28:01
Is this Groundhog Day.
12.) 25 Apr 2022 22:14:46
Canāt believe heās still playing football to be honest.
13.) 25 Apr 2022 22:45:20
Is Charlie Adam still playing?
14.) 26 Apr 2022 10:15:41
I thought for a second he had had a medical emergency, thankfully he hadn't but what a total joke.
15.) 26 Apr 2022 17:23:35
Can you look like that and still be allowed to play professional football? š².
14 Apr 2022 10:43:12
Well I donāt know about everyone else but I think that Darwin Nunez is some player!
First leg he went down far to easy but last night he stayed on heās feet and proved what a fantastic finisher he is and only 21 years old. I know he's not the same position as Salah but if Salah did leave I would go all out for Nunez.
1.) 14 Apr 2022 11:20:15
Was following his development before our QF. Even more impressed with him now. Power, pace, tenacity and a decent finisher. Has Haaland vibes about him in terms of physique. He has a great career in front of him.
But, it sounds like he's attracting a lot of interest from elsewhere and his price tag could be huge when he does move from Benfica.
United, City, Bayern, Dortmund, Real, Barca, Arsenal, Newcastle are all in the market for forwards this summer whereas our situation is not clear given the contract situations of the 3 Amigos.
2.) 14 Apr 2022 12:07:36
He wouldnāt fit our style of play but a decent player.
3.) 14 Apr 2022 12:09:42
Would be a class Firmino replacement, he would do quality the middle of our attack.
4.) 14 Apr 2022 12:17:48
He did well last night, no doubts about that.
Probably put about another Ā£10 million on his asking price as a result.
He was up against Matip though, who is our slowest centre back.
I noticed that Gomez could match him pace-wise, so maybe Matip made him look good to some extent.
Nunez is a good finisher though, give the lad that, and obviously playing with a lot of confidence at the moment.
5.) 14 Apr 2022 12:54:48
Jones just asking out of curiosity but why do you think that Nunez wouldn't fit into our style of play?
6.) 14 Apr 2022 13:24:10
He needs to stop diving but he is an excellent young player who'd suit our team seamlessly.
However he's only realistic if Salah leaves.
7.) 14 Apr 2022 14:43:41
Aye, he looks a very decent player. Just don't tell Harry tho š¤£.
8.) 14 Apr 2022 14:48:47
When the time comes for Firmino to leave, I think our system will have to change anyway. We're seeing it already when Jota is playing instead of Firmino, and I doubt very much there is a player out there that does what Firmino does: so like for like replacement is out of the question.
So if you accept our system up front will have to change eventually, going for Nunez is not a bad idea. I do like his direct style of playing. He goes forward and towards the goal in a straight line always. But I don't buy the excuse that we don't have the funds to buy him, if Klopp decides he really wants him. We spent 3-4 months reading and screaming that we're a "sell to buy club" Who did we sell exactly to spend 40 million plus on Luis Diaz?
{Ed002's Note - The debt is getting bigger and bigger - don't forget taht.}
9.) 14 Apr 2022 15:19:31
ArAy I agree and if anything the system has already moved on this season. Bobby has only started 9 league games and 2 CL games. So for the other 22 league and 8 CL we have had to find a system without Bobby and looking at the results weāve done ok.
This isnāt me saying Bobby is no longer required as again last night he showed what he is capable of. Itās just put the argument to bed for me that Salah and Mane and the Liverpool team cannot play or score without him.
Just to finish off on Bobby he has now surpassed his total goal tally for last season.
With 11 goals and four assists in total, Roberto Firmino is averaging a goal involvement every 111 minutes in all competitions this season. That figure stood at 187 minutes for 2020-21, 157 minutes for 2019-20 and 142 minutes for 2018-19.
His most prolific season for Liverpool was 2017-18 when he ended up with 27 goals and 17 assists ā a goal involvement every 95 minutes.
10.) 14 Apr 2022 15:50:16
He would suit our style of play. I wouldn't mind him at all. Incredible finishes even if they were offside. And that volley. He was unlucky that Ali realized he was the "one", started seeing everything in green matrix numbers and just said "no"
11.) 14 Apr 2022 16:44:48
Nunez reminds me of the player Andy Carroll could have been if heād stayed out of kebab shops etc.
12.) 14 Apr 2022 17:03:09
When you say āthe systemā must change, what āsystemā are you referring to exactly?
We play with three forwards and three midfielders virtually all the time.
Bobby may drop deeper when he plays whereas Jota is more direct but the whole thing is fluid in any case?
Iāve noticed that Jota scores most of his goals around the penalty spot which indicates a more direct style but his speed allows him to move around at will.
Against the deep block, his heading ability is welcomed being in the box too.
But surely Liverpoolās system is one of flexibility, weāre not tied to one specific way?
13.) 14 Apr 2022 17:40:26
Funnily enough watching him over the 2 legs I did think he was a poor manās Haaland. (Not in a derogatory way though, he looks a good talent in his own right)
Not sure he would fit in at Liverpool but itās going to be interesting watching his career.
{Ed0666's Note - He reminds me a lot of Raul Jimenez the wolves striker
14.) 14 Apr 2022 18:57:07
In looks or playing style?
15.) 14 Apr 2022 19:09:59
Juicer, "the system" I was referring to involves using Firmino as a false 9 (a term which has not always been clear to me) as the following: pressing from the front and chasing down the ball carrier amongst the back 5, spending a lot of time in midfield in linking up play and more of the pressing, creating space in the middle, for the other two up front, by going on diagonal runs which drag opposing defenders out of position and opening up the middle for the other two to shoot, and above all stressing and prioritizing, assists to better positioned players. Now how many No. 9's are out there that do (and would agree to do) this? Can you see a Suarez, Benzema, Lewandowski, Kane etc etc do this on a fulltime basis? All of these guys are mostly about run, dribble and shoot, dribble, swivel and shoot (I'll accept that Kane spends time in midfield, but not so much) . You can see most No.9's are focused on scoring and that more than anything else. You don't get that impression with Firmino.
16.) 14 Apr 2022 20:00:28
ArAy Iāve not even looked mate but Iām sure Suarez, Kane, Lewa and Benzema have all got pretty high assists and chance creation stats throughout their careers. I might be wrong though.
17.) 15 Apr 2022 00:14:15
JK. Ahem. We frown on stats and statisticians on this site. š.
25 Mar 2022 20:08:36
Hi all
Taking my daughter to her first Anfield experience tomorrow for the legends game. Is there still a fan zone there?
Thanks.
1.) 25 Mar 2022 21:25:03
Enjoy Longthing. I hope you both have a great time.
22 May 2022 08:11:51
Salah is far from his best spaceman. And has been for months.
28 Apr 2022 12:04:47
This would the best signing ever! šš¼šš¼šš¼.
11 Feb 2022 08:23:24
Morning eds2
Did we have to borrow money to buy Diaz?
{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have been living of loans and building debt for some time.}
03 Feb 2022 23:35:14
Thatās very interesting eds2. Can you explain why we used a 3ed party and what was the fee we tried to buy him for. You really are the oracle mate. And thank for any info matešš».
{Ed002's Note - It is not worth opening these things up.}
30 Jan 2022 12:16:45
Am very pleased with this signing. Hopefully he will bed in nicely and start showing us what heās about šš».
25 May 2022 17:26:56
Am not a big fan of keita and this season hasnāt changed that.
If we have our strongest team to pick from then I doubt Klopp would pick him. Yes heās started in cup finals but only because of injuries to other players.
From what I seen in the FA cup final Trent was leaving big holes when up field which hendo normally covers. And because hendo was moved to the middle and keita on the right he didnāt cover that area.
He is a weak link! And doesnāt spot the danger.
Obviously this is just am opinion and I mite be wrong.
22 May 2022 08:23:31
Any idea where Di Maria is going Edās?
{Ed002's Note - Try the European pages.}
20 May 2022 07:33:40
If heās fit then he plays. The physios wouldnāt let him play if he didnāt pass a fitness test!
18 May 2022 08:43:19
Heās the manager of AV he will want to win for them first anything else is a bonus!
15 May 2022 21:40:11
Talking of penaltyās I though Richarlison was lucky that he didnāt have to retake his peno as your not allowed to stop and start your run up!