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17 Jun 2020 07:15:43
Morning eds1
Do you know was If thereās any injuries ahead of our game with Everton?
Thanks.
{Ed001's Note - Adrian, Salah and Robbo have knocks but are expected to be fit. Ox also looks like he could play after his ankle injury. That just leaves Shaq and Clyne as expected to miss out.}
1.) 17 Jun 2020 08:20:28
Itās been a while since weāve had a team news update before a PL game Ed mate, very much missed. Letās hope we get it done over the line soon as possible mate š.
{Ed001's Note - Arsenal can speed things up tonight with a result.}
2.) 17 Jun 2020 11:09:17
Pep is up to his usual mind games, moaning about how his players are not ready. If Arsenal is up to it, it should be one helluva game. We'll get a hint of what Arteta is capable of.
3.) 17 Jun 2020 10:29:04
If Arsenal draw with City I'll be amazed, but still, anything can happen!
4.) 17 Jun 2020 10:30:48
Thanks Ed, buzzing for the game on the weekend.
Must be frustrating for Shaq - is this an new injury do you know or one thatās been lingering?
Cheers.
{Ed001's Note - it occurred in February so not that new.}
5.) 17 Jun 2020 11:00:17
Yeah they could mate but canāt see it tbh can you?
{Ed001's Note - it is a strange world right now mate, anything could happen.}
6.) 17 Jun 2020 14:55:11
Itās interesting how Naby Keita constantly gets slated for picking up injuries and yet there is nowhere near the same level of abuse for Shaqiri despite the fact that Keita has played more games for Liverpool than Shaqiri.
7.) 17 Jun 2020 15:25:36
Thunderbird 2, that's probably down to cost of player and expectation of impact he would make.
8.) 17 Jun 2020 18:59:11
And to be fair to Shaqiri he did score a winning goal against Man U. So that puts a lot of credit in the bank.
9.) 17 Jun 2020 19:00:39
We all know shaq is gone, it almost feels like he has downed tools cos he is not a starter or a klopp favourite . On the other hand if he has genuinely been injured we don't need him we have players already that can't play ten games on the bounce .
28 Oct 2019 16:07:33
Hi Edās
Do you have any info about kesiktas wanting to cancel karius loan?
{Ed002's Note - There may be a possibility of it happening but it is complex.}
1.) 28 Oct 2019 20:31:41
I thought he was performing ok recently?
Or are there other reasons.
2.) 29 Oct 2019 08:08:40
The new Besiktas President has his own views on balancing the books and what shape success should take. What is the penalty to Besiktas for canceling the loan, Ed002, if they go through with it?
{Ed002's Note - Without seeing the contract I don't know - but rules are much stricter than they were.}
11 Jun 2019 18:14:21
Hi eds1
Is Danny Ings still joining Southampton after heās loan is now finished?
{Ed001's Note - as far as I am aware it was all done before the end of the season.}
1.) 11 Jun 2019 18:58:59
Was the fee already agreed before the loan eds1.
{Ed001's Note - yes.}
2.) 11 Jun 2019 19:42:45
I know people will disagree but i still think Origi should be joining him. don't think he's up to competing with the front 3 over a long season.
3.) 11 Jun 2019 19:59:02
Little Naby I agree. Not knocking the lad for how he finished the season but heās not good enough.
4.) 11 Jun 2019 23:38:10
Cue the fume when we don't bring in a Ā£70 million front man to sit on the bench and instead give Origi a new contract.
5.) 11 Jun 2019 23:54:25
Little Naby not sure what more you want from the guy he was excellent in the close season and earned his place in this squad. You won't get top drawer players happy to sit on the bench and frankly it causes more problems than good, look how many want to leave city!
6.) 12 Jun 2019 09:17:27
He wasnt excellent Never, what player were you watching? Peoples minds are being muddled by the fact he scored a couple of goals on our way to number 6,oh and let's not forget the derby goal my granny would have put away. There was a time i really wanted it to work out for Origi but he's not good enough. How many teams were beating down our door to sign him last summer and January? And this isn't about wanting a shiny new Ā£70-80m player to replace him, i would honestly rather see an academy player like Woodburn or Camacho play ahead of him because at least one they they MIGHT be good enough.
7.) 12 Jun 2019 12:36:35
It isn't a long season to Origi - along season playing every game then yes! When asked to do a job, he's done as best as poss.
8.) 12 Jun 2019 14:19:31
If he gets a new contract and sticks around i'll support him as a Liverpool player. I just don't think he should get that contract and we should sell him now while his stock is at its highest. We should be at a stage now where we have better than Origi on the bench. he'd struggle to get in a matchday squad for most of the top half of the table teams.
9.) 12 Jun 2019 14:35:49
He's the only natural finisher out of our front three, that said, I wouldn't start him over Mane, Booby or Mo but he can offer something different if we rotate him.
10.) 12 Jun 2019 15:04:01
I like having Divock as an option.
I liked his performances on the left the few times he played there.
IF he stays it will be because the club see his utility and he thinks he can do it.
That's all you can ask for.
11.) 12 Jun 2019 16:14:20
Little Naby and Pegleg, could you please tell me how many teams were beating down Andy Robertson's door when we signed him? And how on earth are you able to determine that Origi's stock is at the highest right now, at 24 years of age and coming back into form and reckoning?
You guys epitomize the exact thing that's wrong with modern fans, but I'm particularly disgusted because this kid has done everything he's been asked and has just played a major, major part in maintaining our title pursuit last season and winning us our first trophy in almost a decade.
To justify your nonsense you suggest that it might just be better to play Camacho or Woodburn. ahead of Origi, because, as you implied, they might just be better! It is truly pathetic that you feel the only way to measure our progress or readiness to win major trophies is by having better players on the bench than Origi. There was a time Machedo won Manchester United the league; John O'Shea; Felipe Anderson; list goes on.
I don't think we deserve anything with "fans" like you! I see now why Ed002 loves Liverpool fans! Keep it up!
12.) 12 Jun 2019 16:52:44
Noski wind your neck in lad. No need to bite their heads off. If you disagree that's fine but chill out man. People are allowed to have different opinions to you.
13.) 12 Jun 2019 16:56:39
I donāt think Origi is up to the task really, but I donāt think Bobby is either. Before everybody shoots me down, if you took him out of our side last season and replaced him with peak Torres, Saurez or Fowler, we win the league, I have no doubts about that. I love Bobby, heās a fantastic player but if everyone thinks back to before we signed him, he was an attacking midfield player, not a forward. I would love to see him move back into midfield. Everyone seems to think we need a āFekirā type player to open defences and score goals from midfield, I think Bobby can do that no problem. Sign a world class out and out striker would be my preference.
14.) 12 Jun 2019 21:02:17
Noski i don't epitomise anything, im supporting LFC 30 years and usually hate criticising one of our players but the lad is not good enough. IN MY OPINION. if you think he is then fine but i know most L'pool suppoters i know agree with me. if we hadnt completed a miracle comeback against Barcelona there would be very little people on this site in favour of keeping Divock.
15.) 12 Jun 2019 21:49:03
We beat West Ham away 3-2 Divock scored
We beat Everton at home 1-0 Divock scored
We beat Barcelona at home 4-0 Divock scored
We beat Spurs in CL final 2-0 Divock scored
He played 673mins and scored 7 goals and has a goal average of 1 every 96mins in 2018/ 19
He will sit on the bench and wait his chance and doesn't sulk.
When we needed him this season he was there.
Jose Mourinho speaking on RT said after the CL final that players like Divock are like gold dust. Jurgen it seems wants to offer him a new contract and people on here want rid of him?
He cost Liverpool Ā£8mil, would people prefer we sold him and spent Ā£50mil for someone else to sit on the bench and disrupt the squad because he's not getting a game?
{Ed025's Note - sounds like a brilliant player polecat, so if he had of played more maybe you would have won the league?, does that mean that klopp picked the wrong team at times?...maybe jurgen is not as good as i thought mate..
16.) 13 Jun 2019 00:11:55
My neck has truly be wound in, Campbell. I'm waiting for your Campbocopter to deliver the flashiest signing yet! Clear all the deadwoods and splish and splash!
17.) 13 Jun 2019 01:04:45
Divock is worth his place anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded and frankly wrong.
If Klopp sees him as good enough for the best team in europe then none of us are qualified to disagree.
18.) 12 Jun 2019 22:26:22
jurgens good enough to try and get rid last summer Ed025 but he wouldn't go to Wolves. For me if everyones fit he's not even 1st option off the bench i'd have Shaquiri on ahead of him, Ox too if he's on the bench.
{Ed025's Note - hes a different option i suppose naby, but if he does stay i cant see him starting many games mate..
19.) 13 Jun 2019 19:14:28
ED025,
If Everton had a few players as good as him maybe they wouldn't have finished 43 points behind LFC?
{Ed025's Note - your right polecat....it would have been 53, its yet another case of liverpool supporters over hyping one of their players, hes bench fodder and no more mate as next season will prove ( that is of course if they cant get shut of him)..
20.) 15 Jun 2019 09:01:21
I love what origi has done for us and his attitude has been great. His goals have all been instinctive which bobby lacks around the box. He's never one to grab a game and produce something out of nothing, all his goals have come from 6 yard tap ins apart from final.
I'd have no complaints if he stays. But I actually feel origi himself might want to leave. His latest quotes suggest he's deciding his next move. He's 24, another season of 700 minutes can't be what he wants.
02 Jan 2019 19:55:41
Hi eds
Is Solankes move to CP not going ahead now?
{Ed001's Note - for now yes.}
1.) 02 Jan 2019 20:23:48
Apparently, there are concerns over his fitness.
My opinion is that it may be difficult for him to go on loan because teams would need him to start playing immediately.
A permanent deal however may be different, because he may be afforded more time.
But that's just my opinion.
{Ed002's Note - That is not the issue - someone making unreasonable demands is.}
2.) 02 Jan 2019 20:54:07
Player looking for Guarantees no doubt then.
{Ed002's Note - No, that is not the issue.}
3.) 02 Jan 2019 22:09:32
Probably us demanding an excessive loan fee or insisting Palace cover all his wages.
4.) 02 Jan 2019 22:11:55
Am dumping itās the clubās demands of playing time and feed.
5.) 02 Jan 2019 22:46:32
*assuming.
6.) 03 Jan 2019 01:52:31
Maybe we are trying to get some sort of agreement about Bissaka.
7.) 03 Jan 2019 05:55:10
Havent seen it asked yet, so here goes. ed2 who is making the unreasonable demands and what are they?
{Ed002's Note - It is unimportant. He will go elsewhere.}
8.) 03 Jan 2019 15:19:52
Doesn't Solanke have a very demanding father that was also part of the problem @ Chelsea?
9.) 04 Jan 2019 00:33:05
Is it not about CP signing too many loan players this season?
10.) 04 Jan 2019 00:38:46
Like where?
25 Apr 2018 06:55:46
Hi eds. do you know when Lallana it due back. After the injury to the ox we need him ASAP. ?
{Ed001's Note - he is not expected back this season, unless we make the final in which case he could possibly make it. Not sure we 'need' him, good player as he is, we have not missed him at all this season and look better without him. He does not fit the way we play any more.}
1.) 25 Apr 2018 07:06:41
Ok thanks eds
Maybe time for him to move on then.
2.) 25 Apr 2018 07:46:10
I think we are all panicking over Midfield options ed mate. what's your thoughts? We have 3 fit options only now. Anyone from U21 or U23 that might be drafted in?
{Ed001's Note - maybe time to give Trent a run in his natural position?}
3.) 25 Apr 2018 08:14:07
Be a good chance against stoke at the weekend maybe and play Gomez at rb.
4.) 25 Apr 2018 08:19:41
Good shout Ed to be fair. Gomez back to RB. Hendo probably needs a rest? Can you think of any youngsters he might call on or should the 3 senior fit CMs be able to play all remaining games in your opinion?
{Ed001's Note - there is plenty of rest after next week's game. So they should be enough. If not maybe we could give Williams a chance, at 22 he needs to get a game or two just to see if he is capable of raising his game. You only know for sure when they get a go. Sometimes a kid can stand out a mile but then shrink mentally and fail miserably in the adult game. Other kids look average in youth football but they get a lucky break and suddenly grow as players to look like they belong there. It really shouldn't be an issue to cope for 4 games with the three we have and then they get two weeks to rest before the final (hopefully).}
5.) 25 Apr 2018 08:28:14
Just made a post on another thread saying the same ed, I think it is time to push him up to the midfield, let's see how he handles it, I think he'll do really well plus there's no better time then now.
6.) 25 Apr 2018 08:40:46
Cheers ed. You make so much sense. I would have far less stress and grey hairs if I could talk to you everytime I get a little flustered or concerned in life lol. Have a good day mate.
{Ed001's Note - I would say that is the good thing about getting older that you get less flustered but me ma is blooming ancient and she still gets overly stressed about every little thing.}
7.) 25 Apr 2018 08:44:43
In terms of having enough in the tank it shouldn't be a problem Ed001. But we are also one errant kick from not having enough fit midfielders for the biggest game of the decade.
{Ed001's Note - then you give a youngster a chance and you never know you might unearth a future star. If we aren't going to give them a chance when injuries strike because of panicky fans we may as well scrap the academy altogether.}
8.) 25 Apr 2018 09:09:43
Iād like to see Hendo, Gini and Woodburn against Stoke and maybe Milner coming on last 30mins to rest Hendo for a bit.
We need TAAās delivery from out wide against Stoke IMO.
9.) 25 Apr 2018 10:42:31
Fully agree ed001, but I'm dissapointed that we have to give them a chance now. I questioned at the time, and continue to question, why they are not as a rule present in every match day squad so they could have gotten some chances in a few of the 16 (yes that's right, 16) games this season where we have won by 3 or more goals? It does get annoying finding ourselves repeatedly unprepared for this.
{Ed001's Note - I expect the Prem will follow Serie A's lead and increase the number of subs available soon enough. Serie A did it because they wanted to help the Italian national side by giving youngsters more chances in the first team. Whether it would actually do that or not is arguable but it would certainly mean managers would have no excuse for not giving kids a chance. Though it would probably just see Guardiola demand another half billion to spend to fill the bench with expensive first team players....}
10.) 25 Apr 2018 13:07:47
Ed001 do you know has Jordan Williams been training with the 1st team? I know he played a bunch of games for Rochdale, but not since October and he hasn't been playing for the U23s. I'd imagine it's more likely Gini will play as the deep mid and one or two of Woodburn/ Jones/ Kane could get a start. I know they're younger but age doesn't seem to be a factor for Klopp if you're good enough.
{Ed001's Note - a lot of the young uns train with the first team and it swaps about, to get them used to being with the group.}
11.) 25 Apr 2018 20:54:55
Jordan Williams is currently on loan at Rochdale so I imagine he wouldnāt be an option unless recall was an option.
{Ed002's Note - Of course not.}
12.) 26 Apr 2018 09:06:41
No Gordo, it was only a loan until January, but he suffered a knee injury at the end of October and hasn't kicked a football since.
13.) 26 Apr 2018 12:16:15
SGRED, Iād argue that Trentās positioning would still find him out wide when playing RCM, just look at the positions Milner and the Ox take up throughout a game. Means he still gets to put in killer deliveries but also experience a game in midfield at the highest level. Also means if we play Gomez at RB that we can shift to a 3-4-3 when needed without having to bring an extra centre back on like we have been lately.
Cheers (3rd attempt at this post)
14.) 26 Apr 2018 12:17:51
Gordo - I believe his loan finished back in Jan. I just checked the Rochdale website and there is no mention of him (although they do have a Jordan Williams out on loan to Lincoln which threw me for a tick) . But he isn't injured AFAIK so Im guessing he needs to work harder to convince Critchley because he isn't getting into the U23 atm.
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02 Aug 2020 10:36:53
I agree with a lot of people who arenāt happy with the price of the new kit but going back to the time when we signed the deal with Nike everyone was over the moon with the deal because the more we sell the more the club makes as we get a percentage of profits. The kit price is up there with most top clubs across Europe. Club arenāt going to make kits cheaper than previous years its just business.
1.) 02 Aug 2020 11:04:55
You summed it up in one mate 'it's just business' exactly and that's all it is now unfortunately. Just a bit crap out there for some people who can't afford them, if they put the prices down they'd probably earn more money because more people would buy them. It is what it is.
If I'm to buy one, I'm buying 3 because my sons would want one as well, I'll choose not to thank you very much, not when we can get fakes these days miles cheaper that look exactly the same. If I'm paying for 3 kits, I can go to spain for a week cheaper, I know what I'd prefer.
2.) 02 Aug 2020 12:23:05
Itās just a shame really because we would all like to buy one and kits for our kids as well but money is tight as it is for a parent and especially with how things are right now.
But there is a tipping point all of us face between really wanting the kits and the feeling of being taken advantage of. Iām afraid the feeling of being taken advantage of is far too much this year and Iām afraid many others will agree.
Itās a shame because it would be nice to see the kits priced at a rate that most fans could afford so that everyone who wants one can afford one and can then feel proud wearing it out and about.
Luckily the new kit is hideous and uninspiring so I donāt feel that bad in not buying one. Lol.
20 Jul 2020 21:13:15
Have you changed your name again Harry! You change your name more than I change my undies mate šš.
{Ed025's Note - wow, i bet you throw them at the wall longthing...and if they dont stick you put them back on.. :)
1.) 20 Jul 2020 21:37:20
You are the biggest hit on this page Longthing š
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2.) 20 Jul 2020 21:55:11
He changes his name more than he changes the team he supports š.
3.) 20 Jul 2020 22:21:03
Stop talking about Harry, he loves it and it gets embarrassing.
4.) 21 Jul 2020 07:16:03
Didn't hulk Hogan sleep with his best mates mrs whilst his make filmed it?! Bit like sleeping with man city whilst you were supposed to be married to liverpool lol.
5.) 21 Jul 2020 11:01:23
Maneenough, your scenario actually happened in real life BUT I just can't remember who in fact, did that? I know I have his name at the tip of my tongue but I just can't put a finger on it?
12 Jul 2020 08:48:39
Morning eds1
Any chance of review of the games from when we started back. Not to detailed just a summary of good points and bad. Players good and bad.?
Thanks mate.
{Ed001's Note - ok mate, I will try and put something together for you.}
1.) 12 Jul 2020 12:54:30
Yeah that would be something to look forward to Ed001.
{Ed001's Note - you say that now, but when you are reading it I am sure you will be texting me to tell me how crap it was and ask why I made you read it! ;-)
2.) 12 Jul 2020 13:17:21
You know me so well Ed001.
{Ed001's Note - far too well sadly!}
05 Jul 2020 10:23:19
Morning eds1.
This is in no way player bashing. Itās just a question, before people think am having a go at him. Am just interested in how would you think bobby has done this year compared to their seasons. Do we need someone to push him more on the goal scoring front.
I personally love him in our team. Am getting a lot of stick from mates who arenāt LFC fans. ?
Thanks.
1.) 05 Jul 2020 10:35:50
I think his performances have dropped big time, we need to sign cover to push him on, i love him in our team but klopp needs to have a word or i feel he will be replaced.
2.) 05 Jul 2020 10:36:43
He takes ages to get into his rhythm after breaks and has 1 good game in 5 max. Question for me is if even when heās not on form, is he still crucial to Salah or Maneās game or can they play with someone else who can score more than Bobby. Feels like the press is less important to us these days as we have most of the possession so that takes away some of the need for Bobbyās game but weāll never know if we can be better without him until we sign another world class forward or he is injured. If we get a playmaker in midfield with Fabino and Hendo we would need Bobby less but as it stands heās crucial to our team right now even when heās not playing that great.
3.) 05 Jul 2020 10:42:06
People are to harsh on him, he isn't a striker, he isn't going to score 30+ goals a season, what he does off the ball is majorly important to the team and how we work, also his link up play with salah and mane is amazing, sometimes scoring goals doesn't make you a much needed player, and if he was to be replaced he would be missed massively.
4.) 05 Jul 2020 10:42:07
I thought Minamino was brought in to cover his role?
Hes the player that makes our whole offence tick for me and I think heās had an excellent season.
5.) 05 Jul 2020 10:54:40
Agree. Which is why werner saga was such a disappointment. I think he could have played through the middle as he's technically good as well
as pacey. bobbys a purple patch player that never takes his 50.50 chances. it was no surprise he fluffed his shot against city and I immediately thought werner would have buried that. 0 goals at home in this team.
6.) 05 Jul 2020 11:00:39
Heās a great player and had a good season but needs to improve his finishing. I donāt expect him to get 20 goals a season with the role he plays but sometimes when takes a shot on he should really hit the target or score and doesnāt.
But every player has something to improve on which is good means the team can get even betwee šŖš½.
7.) 05 Jul 2020 11:19:08
I like Bobby and when heās on form heās one of our integral players. I just donāt think heās as consistent as Mo or mane though. Bobbys been up and down this season and I think his best form came around the Christmas period. I also think he falls into the category of if any LFC fan questions him they get accused of not being a proper fan or not knowing anything about football so itās a no win. For me Bobbys strong points are his hussling and the fact he pulls players out of position to create space. The issue we now have is we have the lions share of possession most games so thereās less chance of him to pinch balls and pressure defenders. Also most teams now park the bus or are positionally disciplined against us so trying to pull players out of position doesnāt work when thereās another 10 of them behind the ball.
8.) 05 Jul 2020 11:21:59
Anyone else thinking āwhat are you guys talking aboutā.
Taking a while to get going - I thought he was class versus palace, most weāre poor vs Everton and let's not mention city.
Heās scored the winning goal in 6 games this season I believe.
Yes heās never going to score a hatful, but he isnāt a bad finisher. His he up play and link up play is quality for an average sized guy. We need someone with the intelligence to move as he does to allow mane and salah the space to get in behind. If all 3 strikers ran in behind, it would be easy to defend. Centre backs worry about firmino dropping in, keep their eyes on him and not mane or salah coming in from the side. If a Werner type was last man, there would be no space to make the goals the. Salah scores against palace for example.
9.) 05 Jul 2020 11:50:52
I think you can't measure what Firmino does with only goals and assists. If he doesn't drop down to midfield or the sides and drag defenders with him, Mane and Salah can't rush into the space left behind and get their goals. And if Salah and Mane don't push in towards the center then where do Robertson and TAA run into and cross? He's the key cog to our attack. If he doesn't start the press up front and harass the defenders with his endless running, our midfield and defense doesn't get the protection they do. And his goal celebrations are absolutely the most weird and the best, unlike the repetitive celebrations we see from Mane and the moody ones from Salah. š.
10.) 05 Jul 2020 12:00:33
Without bobby the system changes, we're a better team when he plays. We'd all like him to be getting 20 plus a season, I dare say he gets the opportunities to get that many. I've believed and said for about 3 years now that if he had that extra yard of pace and got an extra 10 a season he would be spoken about as one of the worlds best. Let the world put hin down, as long asbwe and klopp appreciate what he does it really doesn't matter imo.
11.) 05 Jul 2020 12:05:54
He's the 1st number 9 to win the league with us in 30 years. come on seriously. He adds so much more than what you see on tv.
12.) 05 Jul 2020 12:07:13
I thought he was class vs Palace too. He's the best footballer at the club. I wasn't gutted when we missed out on werner.
13.) 05 Jul 2020 12:08:36
ArAy, fantastic summary of what Bobby brings to the team, now if someone can get an urgent message to him that the season has resumed we will all be cooking on gas!
14.) 05 Jul 2020 12:25:28
I agree with most of the comments. When Bobby plays well he makes the team better. Last year though he was average at best and injured at the business end of the season. This season he has been slightly better but no where near the top of his game like in 2017-2018 season. Bobby is not as important to the team as he used to be. No home goals will at some point become an issue if anything happens to Mane or Salah.
We of course are all over the moon with the past 2 seasons but nothing wrong with looking forward. I think we need one attacking player in order to stay on top. If Mane or Salah are missing we lose too much.
15.) 05 Jul 2020 12:38:49
Bobbie's inpact on the team's performances overall is no longer up for debate, IMO cos we all know/ should know what he brings to the table and how important his contributions are. I see that he has only scored 8 goals this season and tho that is a low amount, his overall play has been excellent. Btw, some of those goals goals that allowed us to win games by a one goal margin vs Spurs, Wolves, Flamengo etc. His assists as well have been crucial to the cause this season as well.
Now is Bobbie having a dry spell? Of course cos every player does. Can we get someone in to help out? Err, we tried for Werner who would have been perfect as a rotational player at first and could cover Salah and Mane as well but that didn't happen. Hopefully, we can get someone in to help out but let's wait and see.
16.) 05 Jul 2020 13:14:16
If Klopp keeps picking Bobby then Bobby is fine.
Donāt think any of us can really challenge Jurgenās judgement can we?
17.) 05 Jul 2020 13:44:07
Mark08, I fully disagree that Bobbie is not as important to the team as he used to be. Bobbie is still very important to the team cos Klopp keeps picking him, end of story. Your stat that he is not important or as important anymore cos cos he is yet to score at Anfield in the PL is also a false argument cos for me, it does not tell the whole story.
The goals Bobbie has scored have ended up being winning goals for the most part at Spurs, Wolves, vs Monterrey, vs Flamengo, double at Leicester etc, all crucial to our title/ World club Cup tilt this season. So you see, he as still be a great influence regardless of his limited goal tally. Coupl that with his immense output when not scoring (as ArAy1969 described in his post) then he has had a very good season, all things considered. And him not scoring at home? No problem cos Salah and Mane are in charge of that as majority of their goals have come at Anfield.
If we can add someone to help out then why not cos after all, we wanted Timo Werner but let's not start moaning amd slating him just cos he has not scored in the stadium we prefer.
18.) 05 Jul 2020 14:50:42
We just have other players that are more important IMO
VVD, Allison, Salah, Mane, Hendo, Trent, Robbo these players to me are more important and all had better seasons this year and last than Bobby.
19.) 05 Jul 2020 14:57:33
If we had a more naturally creative midfielder, Bobby could realistically play 20 yards higher up the pitch.
He's not a bad goalscorer. He scored 27 goals only 2 years ago. Since Coutinho has left though, he's basically been dropping deeper and deeper to initiate attacks and get involved in the build up play.
If he didn't have to do that he'd be on the shoulder of the last man or in the 6 yard box a lot more frequently and in turn he'd score a lot more goals. Would potentially occupy space that Salah and Mane currently run into though so maybe they could score less?
I'm sure Klopp will have a plan to consistently evolve the team. He changed it up after his first 2 full seasons by dropping the gegenpress for counter pressing. Maybe he will now look to a more possession-based style seeing as we have the quality in the squad to play that way now. Evolution is key to never being figured out. You don' wait to be figured out, you tweak it every so often so that nobody can. Either way, i'll back Klopp. How can we not after Number 19?
20.) 05 Jul 2020 15:02:04
I love Firmino and think he often gets taken for granted. One thing I will note is our different approach we attack with now compared to previously makes firmino get less chances to be involved on the ball, 2 years ago our quick counter breaks and heavy pressing would see bobby have a more obvious role in creating attacks. Now that we often play with more patience and control against deeper defences we utilise our width and full backs more and even though firmino is still vital with his movement out of possession he gets less opportunity to be the danger man needed to put the finishing touches to chances.
In my view it's the altering tactical approach that can give the impression that he's not as important as he was when we played a different style and it's not at all the notion that his performance level has regressed. Even a traditional prolific no.9 would find it hard to be scoring freely unless we adjusted our system to use him and that likely comes at the expense of stifling salah and mane to an extent.
21.) 05 Jul 2020 15:47:54
Guess we will see today how Mane and Salah do and how we play without Firmino and with a more attacking midfield.
22.) 05 Jul 2020 16:27:33
Mark08, whoever is more important is a an argument I am not interested in cos everyone is important in diff. ways esp. in our team where the group approach prevails. In fact, I can argue that those who don't play often like Divok are the most important cos you have to keep those guys on side and keep them sharp and motivated cos as a manager, you know you are going to need them to play a blinder for you when required. Divock Origi is the best example.
You know who shared this notion? Jose Mourinho. He said that the best job he did at Inter when they won the treble was to keep the veteran international players like Samuel, Materazzi etc onside, motivated cos he knew he was going to need them to perform when called upon or to keep the squad in harmony. So that whole schtick about certain players being more important than others, is neither here or there, IMO. I did not say that. Jose did and Klopp has said that repeatedly. Peace.
02 Jul 2020 18:41:52
Hereās a question for you lot. Who scored our 1000 prem goal.?
No googling peeps!
1.) 02 Jul 2020 18:51:32
Well I know it wasnt Gomez.
2.) 02 Jul 2020 19:03:56
I am 100% certain of the answer I will stake my mortgage on it (if my house hadn't been repossessed for crippling debts, didn't have enough assets to pay the bully bailiff boys off but oh well tomatoe tomato) but my answer is Lloyd Jones.
3.) 02 Jul 2020 19:34:15
I initially thought Milner but I got the wrong milestone!
4.) 02 Jul 2020 19:51:38
Was Firmino wasn't it?
5.) 02 Jul 2020 20:11:11
Fernando Torres Scored the 1000 goal for Liverpool. šš».
6.) 02 Jul 2020 21:18:26
Bobby?
7.) 02 Jul 2020 22:43:58
I was thinking about 1000 PL anfield milestone.
8.) 03 Jul 2020 00:59:16
Was it Ngog by any chance? Sure he scored an important goal once.
9.) 03 Jul 2020 05:15:50
I'll go gerrard.
03 Aug 2020 10:06:00
50mill surly not!
28 Jul 2020 12:39:55
Would signing him help with the HG quota eds.
{Ed002's Note - It is the non-HG quota that is the issue.}
22 Jul 2020 10:41:57
As eds has said many times keeping keeping Grujic would take up a a HG place in the team!
13 Jul 2020 11:27:39
We have fab why would we want kante.
13 Jul 2020 10:07:16
Doesnāt look fit enough for me. Has one good game then goes missing again for another 4 games. Am very disappointed after look the effort and expense we put in to get him.
03 Aug 2020 21:21:51
The deals not gone because we were never after him.
At no point were we going to buy him Deisered!
03 Aug 2020 20:19:19
How much is gini even worth. ?
03 Aug 2020 20:18:02
I like the new shirt š¤·š¼āāļø.
01 Aug 2020 08:44:57
I agree wassa but all the teams kits are a rip off. I mean imagine paying for a Everton kit! š sorry eds25.
01 Aug 2020 08:45:37
Klopps hugs.