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25 Apr 2015 12:21:25
Assuming we don't get a CL spot (still clinging on to that bit of hope), what forwards can we attract to Liverpool that will want to come. Assume we move on Balo and Borini so £20 million max!

The Irish Rover

{Ed002's Note - Obviously the finances don't work like that, but Liverpool still have a firm interest in Ings and Vietto - plus Origi will be arriving.}


1.) 25 Apr 2015 14:00:52
I agree. Maybe i should not have put a figure in as such. With your contacts/opinion would you suggest which would be the better fit for Liverpool. Cheers

{Ed002's Note - I really don't know.}


2.) 25 Apr 2015 16:33:03
Ed do you no if Vietto will come or not without CL football?

{Ed002's Note - I really don't know.}


3.) 26 Apr 2015 01:16:54
no need to assume rover , we will be lucky to get 5th spot , BR and the players are half way to the beach , and we have switched off , its going to be Ings , why ? , he costs less .


 

 

11 Dec 2014 16:06:11
Ok, so we are 2 weeks to Christmas! Hard to believe i know but i want you all to spare a thought for other people maybe outside your family circle this Christmas.

Over here in Northern Ireland a local radio station (Cool fm) run a mission Christmas every year. Last year they had requests for 5000 gifts for kids of all ages and sex that would have had nothing to open on Christmas Day. An awful thought for any kid i'm sure you agree. This year they have requests for close to 7000 gifts. It tells me how many families are struggling these days and need a little bit of human kindness.

On doing a bit of research i can tell you that loads of other local radio stations run similar projects all over the UK. The Salvation Army also run a Christmas appeal.

So when you venture out to the town for a bit of seasonal cheer maybe you can spare a thought for those not so fortunate as ourselves. Boots do great 3 for 2 offers for older kids, Smyths toys also! That extra £20/30 will make a huge difference to some youngster this year. Please if you can, do your bit.

Thanks for reading.

The Irish Rover

{Ed001's Note - I will put this on all 3 main pages so it can be seen, great idea mate.}


1.) 11 Dec 2014 16:38:13
Nice one mate


2.) 11 Dec 2014 21:22:56
Who in gods name disagreed With this post ffs get a grip


3.) It's a great initiative and we have the same in Blackpool where the cash for kids charity runs mission christmas. We along with lots of local businesses act as drop of points for your extra gifts which are then delivered to main centres such as sainsburys in our area. All details on drop of points can be found on your local radio station.

All help is massively appreciated.

Cheers


4.) I normally disagree with most things you say on here Rover but spot on with this one.


5.) Hi it's Bauer media/cash4Kids in the UK. I spent some time with them last week sorting gifts to be sent to underprivileged children. Still time to donate
A premier league footballer turned up while we were there spending possibly 10 minutes doing f@@k all other than getting as much publicity as he could.


 

 

26 Jan 2014 12:33:03
Top of the morning Ed02.

A question if you don't mind. When a transfer goes tits up as it has done recently (mentioning no names), Ayre seems to come in for a bit of stick/abuse. Some posters basically claim he is a poor negotiator and very slow in getting deals tied up. In your opinion, would this be a fair assessment? Or is he trying to do the best job he can under the financial constraints he is put under?

I remember a while back you mentioning Liverpool putting in bids way below the asking price therefore not even getting the other team to negotiate. Would they have been better of advised not to go for such players and save themselves from the embarrassment or is there always a chance, therefore worth a go so to speak?

Lastly, leading from the first 2 questions. If Chelsea had not have swooped for Salah would Liverpool have got their man for the price they offered (A third of the asking price?). I appreciate its a bit of a loaded question and I fully understand if you don't want to answer this bit.

The Irish Rover

{Ed002's Note - In my opinion the posters know nothing of the situation at all and as the new type of fan lives only in a blame culture, Mr Ayre becomes the target in such situations. These are the same people who want, Jones, Gerrard, Moses, Allen, Henderson, Johnson, Cissokho, Enrique, Sterling, Agger, Skrtel, Kirikou, Coates, etc., etc. out. There will be a process that decides what sort of money the club will be willing to pay for a player on a case-by-case basis. If an offer is only a third or so of what the selling club are looking for they would typically not be interested in any negotiations as it would be seen as futile. There will also be financial constraints that will need to be adhered to. Aside from interest from Newcastle there was also a bid made by another side for Salah - Liverpool would certainly not have gotten him for the amount they were offering. It was clear that they would have needed to go to Basel with a much improved offer.}


1.) Ed do you think not signing Salah was the right thing to do or not? I'm a fan, I care nothing about money, just want to see my club grow better and better. So please tell me in monetary terms, could not signing Salah deemed a success?

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what the question means.}


2.) 26 Jan 2014 16:26:50
Wasn't our initial bid for Suarez something like £12.7 million? Only to be practically doubled within a week?
Ed02, any idea if this is true or am I making stuff up?

{Ed002's Note - I don't recall the numbers but it was something like that.}


3.) Krishna, you are asking a hypothetical question and only time will tell if Salah going to be the next Oscar or if he'll end up the next Torress .
The club (Our club) obviously thought he is very useful, that's why they initiated negotiation, the fact that they again failed to complete / close suggests there is a problem that the club need to address.


4.) Eds the question seems to ask whether the club are not prepared to negotiate due to their valuation on players being no where near the selling clubs or is it the fault of Ayre specifically as he is not skilled at negotiating? I hope most fans who use this site want to support the club and not spend their time slagging everyone off but u must understand these events become very public fails in the eyes of the fans and we want to understand why we lose out.

Cheers

{Ed002's Note - The fans work in a 100% blame culture and have been shown repeatedly to blame the owners and Mr Ayre for another transfer window where eight £40M players failed to arrive.}


5.) It's seems strange all the same that we spent close to 3 months scouting him, he was earmarked to be a starting XI player and yet we wouldn't spend £11mil to get him. Keep in mind we've recently spent £10mil on Borini, £7mil on Aspas and £7mil on Alberto all to warm the bench.£11mil for a starter doesn't seem that much.


6.) Ed, I think the Salah situation does emphasise a problem in the way we pursue players. I accept that we do not have the money that many of our rivals seem to have, but we proved last January that there is a way to do well in January. In that window we went early and we went fast and landed both Coutinho and Sturridge. The issue highlighted in the summer with Mkhitaryan and to a lesser extent Willian, and now with Salah is that we wait too long and then start too low, thereby giving other teams the chance to react. It is even worse in this instance, as Chelsea would probably not have bid for Salah if we had gone for him on Jan 1st, as they would not have had Mata money ( or need to replace him). The fact that nothing happened ahead of the visit of Henry and Werner means we wasted our best chance of stealing a march on the competition. That would seem to have really cost us. This is the best chance in ages to crack the top 4, but it required us to be ready on Jan 1st and then to go quick and hard to get the players that BR deemed to be the ones to improve the first XI. I am not saying it is down to Ian Ayre, but I think collectively the senior team made a big mistake in delaying and then starting too low on our primary January target. From the outside it looks like we are a little naive as to how the market works these days. We don't have the pulling power we used to, so we have to be far smarter in how we go to market, and right now we are just making ourselves look a little daft as we constantly get beaten to players. The biggest concern is that Luis Suarez must be looking at this and going "this is the problem, no one wants to come and join me here!" Do you not think we need to re-think our approach somewhat to ensure we can bring in players who can improve our First XI as opposed to just attracting a plethora of squad players?

{Ed002's Note - The delay in the summer was largely due to Suarez. Liverpool were not in the same ballpark as Basel in terms of price for Salah.}


7.) No disrespect eds just another opinion. I would say the md of a company is pretty good place to start when things are done badly. After all the book stops at the top! In an earlier reply you suggested we had a committee which arye was part of. Let's check his credentials for being on that committee. He had little experience of signing players and doig deals and knows nothing about football. How on earth is he any where near it? Dempsey fiasco was a joke now salah! If we had of signed Dempsey for peanuts I might add he would now be a valued squad player sometimes starter. We need a winger to push on for top four how is it not worth going in at 11 mil? The book stops at the top and yet again the team will just miss out. Same old problems "this time next year". What a shambles. A window when we need decisive action to kick us on for a real possibility of success the chance goes begging. Not just on salah but the whole window. Mata to utd Chelsea sign three. Our main rivals with big squad already put u to shame

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea did not sign three players to replace Mata. So with your erroneous cliché about the "book" stopping at the top, perhaps you should go after the owners who are at the top. A nice little hate campaign to force them out and get Sheikh Al Thani or Sulaiman Al Fahim in?}


8.) I would say all the comments on this thread are generally questions with some sarcasm, frustration and clear lack of understanding at what goes on at MD level in a prem club and especially at LFC so eds002 please try and respond constructively to the debate rather than giving people short shrift.

Are u clear what happened in the Salah deal?

{Ed002's Note - Try not to be an idiot - I am perfectly clear what happened with Salah.}


9.) I didn't say Chelsea signed three to replace mata. I said many sign mata and Chelsea have also bought players. If we are to compete over a season with rivals such as these then we should be getting things done. Low balling for players highlights weakness at magement level not ownership! Ian arye is at the top of management and has a large portion of responsibility. Are you suggesting he doesn't? Our owners have spent millions already there the last in line. The management/ arye have responsibility for putting that money to good use and sign players not mess around until other clubs beat us to the chase.


10.) Why are you arguing with the eds you just come off looking like a pelican. If you don't like there opinion don't come to the site, no one is forcing you to.


11.) Rather than blame us for being too slow isn't it obvious that Chelsea let us, Spurs or another team do the negotiating, agree a fee and then they come in over the top and offer more at the last minute?
That is Chelsea's strategy. You can't blame the management at Pool or other teams for that!

{Ed002's Note - You clearly don't understand how any of this works.}


12.) Let's just stick to the point.We have a great chance of breaking back into the top 4, but we all see we need some help in doing this.Salah, who we scouted and apparently negotiated with Basel for didn't happen.Most of us would of liked to see him in a red shirt, and felt much better about our chance's if he had arrived.But as Chelsea got him for £11m, we are none to happy as to who and why We didn't get him.So we play the blame game, and Ayre is first on the list.


13.) 27 Jan 2014 18:12:38
Absolutely spot on niceaction


 

 

10 Jan 2014 21:59:42
Ed02. Have Napoli put a bid in for Agger. Has Agger turned it down? Thanks.

The Irish Rover

{Ed002's Note - I suspect that he will stay to the summer.}


 

 

02 Sep 2013 22:03:19
Excuse my ignorance, but did Borini go on loan or not? Was the deal completed? Cheers. {Ed001's Note - yes, he is at Sunderland for the season.}

The Irish Rover

1.) Good luck Borini, work your socks off and come back a better player. YNWA


2.) Think this was a bad move by Liverpool however, with the amount of abuse the lad was getting of his own fans it might be the best thing for him in the long run. You plastic fans ripping into a player who had about a month of actual football uninjured hang your heads in shame, some of the people who support us are an embarrassment. {Ed001's Note - that is the reason he was sent out on loan, too many boo boys on his back.}


3.) I like borini I think he works hard. Hopefully he does well and comes back


4.) If so then it might be very shrewd management, no point him staying here just to have his confidence destroyed.


5.) Borini makes some great runs - He is a very clever footballer who creates space for others.

He will get goals too - maybe not loads but he is a good finisher. Shame he has gone out on loan.

Shame all the fans who didn't see BR as the answer take their frustrations out on a young player who spent most of last season injured - Thought LFC fans were better than that!


6.) Football is all about different opinions. If everyone had the same we wouldn't have forums like this. I don't accept someone being given a 'plastic' or 'boo boy' tag just because they don't rate a particular player. When we pay £725 for a season ticket, and i'm in my 29th year as a season ticket holder, then we hold the right have an opinion even if its not popular. I'll always support the men in Red, through wind and rain. But I'm not so blinkered that I will claim greatness in every player. Borini, in my opinion, wasn't isn't and never will be, of the quality our team deserves. Of course, I wish him well and hope he is a success at Sunderland.


 

 

 

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08 Feb 2021 17:36:54
I think we need to play our strongest midfield, which for me doesn't include Thiago. Hendo, Fabinho and one other, Jones played very well yesterday I thought. Play 2 CBs, Kabak and whoever and take it from there as a building block. that's not to say there aren't other issues, front 3 aren't firing anywhere near as well, but I think we need to try and be as hard to beat as possible and hope that the front three find their mojo. Jota would be a massive help.

We have a lot of players that should go in the Summer such as Origi, Matip, Shaq, Wilson, dare I say Ox, Keita and a few other fringe players. Its clear we need a refreshing and get new players in and around the team. We've zero cash so we need to sell to buy.

The Irish Rover

1.) 08 Feb 2021 18:02:27
How can you say it doesn't include Thiago when he hasn't played as part of our strongest midfield? Give him a chance to play with hendo and fab surely before you say he's not part of our strongest midfield.


2.) 08 Feb 2021 18:04:53
Good post mate but I think you’ll see a different Thiago when he plays with Hendo and Fabs.


3.) 08 Feb 2021 18:39:20
Thiago is not immune to criticism. He’s been average, just like the rest of the entire squad bar probably Fab and Salah.


4.) 08 Feb 2021 18:39:51
Embarrassing Irish 😂😂😂.


5.) 08 Feb 2021 18:42:40
Exactly drogie! OP I agree with everything else.


6.) 08 Feb 2021 18:44:27
Whether we play our strongest midfield or not, if we make mistakes by passing it to the opposition just outside the penalty area we will get destroyed, the stupidity of our players cost us yesterday.


7.) 08 Feb 2021 18:57:03
Lets hope so Drogie. Are we saying Thiago can only play when both Hendo and Fabs play in midfield with him? If that is so I honestly thought he was better than that.


8.) 08 Feb 2021 19:53:13
Thiago, fab and Hendo will be our best midfield. Unquestionably.


9.) 08 Feb 2021 19:53:38
Fabinho has been pretty average too by his own standards but that is wholly because he isn't a centre back.

Only players who i would say have played at their best this season are Salah, Jota, Phillips and Jones. Not saying they've been our 4 best players, but they are the 4 who have done as much or more than could be expected of them in my opinion.

Yet we're still in 4th place! Klopp and Lijnders have 5 days solid training now to get the new centre backs up to speed. By next Saturday we shouldn't have to play a midfielder in the back 4 again this season, thank god.


10.) 08 Feb 2021 20:09:49
Interesting point Marq mate but Thiago plays further forward with Hendo and Fabhino in the team and both of whom are far superior than when we have midfield including Shaq and Gini ( who’s head is turned IMO )

It’s a bit like Mané and Salah, when Bobby is on song, the front three are unplayable at times.


11.) 08 Feb 2021 21:30:52
Bit harsh on Fab MK. He’s never played CB before and even though he’s been 6/ 10, you’ve got to give him credit for stepping in and trying his best for the Badge.


12.) 08 Feb 2021 22:17:05
Very harsh on Fab, MK. How can you say he has been average by his standards while playing in defence whereas the standards he set were set while playing in his best position which is in midfield? Don’t understand that thinking at all, man.


13.) 08 Feb 2021 22:22:53
Not trying to discredit him at all LFC8. He's done well there for a midfielder. But i do think he offers more in midfield and he's given away a lot of penalties and dangerous free kicks because his natural game is to be aggressive. that's the only reason why i didn't include in my players who i think are playing at their very best. Fabinho has a very legitimate excuse though. As does Henderson. It's not easy to play out of position. You have to applaud their selflessness to do it knowing full well they'd struggle at times.


14.) 09 Feb 2021 01:19:25
i think we need to drop Winaljdum and get someone else in midfield maybe curtis.

I like Winaljdum he has been fantastic but he is isn't an attacking goal scorer like he is in internationals.

Maybe OX can regain his form - what we are really crying out for a Keita who can just grab the ball of other players and run forward.


15.) 09 Feb 2021 10:44:11
I think Allison deserves to be there too MK. Other than 10 minutes against City he has been priceless to us.


 

 

02 Feb 2021 18:48:05
Rest in Peace, Sir Captain Tom Moore. He showed us all that you are never too old to make a difference.

The Irish Rover

1.) 02 Feb 2021 19:01:36
This might sound harsh, but why was he allowed to go to Barbados when the rest of us were told to stay at home. Why was his family allowed at his bedside, when ours are not allowed.


2.) 02 Feb 2021 19:05:31
Because cymru, although we may all apparently be equal, some of us are more equal than others.


3.) 02 Feb 2021 19:06:19
Because it fits the agenda for the great reset.


4.) 02 Feb 2021 19:15:14
That does sound very harsh mate. he was in the war mate defending this great nation. in a world wide C.V. as never seen before he raised 33m for the NHS. If the great man wanted to go on his last family holiday fair play. I get where your coming from with the family at his bedside in this current situation. Maybe the government could say to relatives, 2 people to be allowed to be bedside in such events however a isolation period of 10 days will be placed upon them following.
Shame all around really. RIP sir tom.


5.) 02 Feb 2021 20:02:49
That’s also a fair point Magico.


6.) 02 Feb 2021 20:16:13
More importantly - because he was no longer on the C.V. ward having tested negative, but the damage has already been done. As is the case with most other people you can visit terminal patients not in the C.V. wards, but it's run by individual hospital capacity.


7.) 02 Feb 2021 20:38:29
hjikle, thank you for that update, it’s good to hear all of the story.


8.) 02 Feb 2021 20:38:41
Lots of peoples grand parents fought in the war and I'm sure most people would class their grandad as a hero. Doesn't matter how much he raised for charity, you can't have one rule for him and another for anyone else who's loved one is about to die.


9.) 02 Feb 2021 21:22:19
If you have a problem with someone who put his life on the line to defend this country and did what he did for the nhs giving a lot of hope to people I’m such depressing times going to Barbados before he died then I’m sorry that says a lot about you.


10.) 02 Feb 2021 21:51:35
Even those who give selflessly and expect nothing in return, get brickbats. What a world we live in.


11.) 02 Feb 2021 22:25:13
Some people are unbelievable. Your pissed off he don’t die alone?


12.) 03 Feb 2021 00:14:11
No problem with his holiday or his family being with him at the end but please remember he was in hospital for pneumonia, survival rates at 100yrs old not good, I knew a guy 48 yrs old killed him in two weeks.


13.) 03 Feb 2021 00:43:06
No, more pissed off that hundreds, if not more, have had to die alone, shouldn't be allowed to happen, but you're welcome to tell those families yourself that that's ok.


14.) 03 Feb 2021 08:20:32
Well, going by some off these posts you can see how easy it is for people to get away with racist and nasty posts and the like on social media. Its so easy to post vile and ill timed comments these days.
My post was about how even a really old bloke like Sir Tom can make a difference at the ripe old age of 100, yet some want to make it about something else. The man has just died and his family are grieving yet some think its the right moment to have a go, even if they might have a valid point. That is disappointing. Shame.


15.) 03 Feb 2021 08:32:35
Who’s said that’s ok? Nobody. But when a national hero has passed all some people can say is why did he have family at his bedside?


 

 

08 Jan 2021 21:57:55
Well done the Villa kids. Louis Barry, great interview, couldn't stop smiling, great wee lad and a great goal.

The Irish Rover

{Ed047's Note - loved that he went and got his debut shirt back!


 

 

31 Dec 2020 19:12:05
OK my footballing supporters. Happy new year to you all and a much improved 2021. Let's be honest, 2020 has been a complete Annus Horribilis, certainly one to forget for most. So chin up for 2021.
Its a rather quiet one in The Irish Rover's household this year, well apart from the wife getting stuck into the Baileys 🤪🤪.
Stay safe folks, keep believing.

The Irish Rover

1.) 31 Dec 2020 21:51:59
Happy new year mate.


2.) 31 Dec 2020 22:48:52
Bailey's and a Irish woman that's some combination mate. Happy new year.


 

 

19 Oct 2020 14:22:57
So who do we play against Ajax? I think the first game is always important to try and get 3 points. You don't want to be playing catch up but An away game will be tough enough to start. I would guess that Matip will be rested, so Gomez and Fab in front of Adrian. Tried and tested midfield of Gini, Hendo and Milner maybe and usual front 3?

The Irish Rover

1.) 19 Oct 2020 14:58:20
Is there any update on Thiago. If he's fit then he starts for me.


2.) 19 Oct 2020 15:00:31
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Hendo. Fab. Gini

Salah Firmino mane.

Surely?


3.) 19 Oct 2020 15:49:41
Think Matip won't play he is not injured it seems but went for a checkup scan

Ads
TAA FAB JG AR
JONES HENDO GINI
SALAH MINI MANE

Mini deserves a shot and the way Ajax play would be a perfect game for him to come into

Reason I've Picked Jones we need a player going forward from midfield, Keita is still out, Ox is still injured I think.


4.) 19 Oct 2020 15:50:37
Kelleher should play in my opinion.

Amidst all the Pickford-gate debate, people completely overlooked the fact that Adrian threw another goal in at the weekend. I could have stopped Keanes header.


5.) 19 Oct 2020 20:49:19
Throw karius on?


6.) 19 Oct 2020 21:52:58
Can he play CB Robbie? 😜.


7.) 20 Oct 2020 08:42:03
He was a good no10 for benzema!


 

 

 

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19 Feb 2021 11:44:35
I don't think there's a cat in hells chance of Ljinders getting the Liverpool job.

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16 Feb 2021 14:17:23
I would never be keen on Liverpool forking out £100 million plus on a player such as Grealish. Liverpool have done great business on the likes of Salah and Mane. I'm hoping if one of them go they could do the same.

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11 Feb 2021 14:50:52
I agree with the outs, Origi not on your out list Ed? A fair bit of work to do in the Summer.

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03 Feb 2021 11:48:12
It was a red clear. You don't have to lose a body part for it to be a red card.

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31 Jan 2021 18:47:43
Aye, poor j6.

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06 Mar 2021 18:58:45
Gini your scapegoat Sailor Jerry?

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06 Mar 2021 14:16:55
Who are you influenced by Mikey? Hmmmm! Anyway you put him in the team for one world class pass? Seems your understanding of the game isn't much better if you're playing him for the odd "holywood" pass. Just saying like.

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06 Mar 2021 13:24:55
Gini is also playing a role that doesn't really suit him either, it doesn't stop him getting pelters.
When Thiago came on against Newcastle we weren't a team out of form, as we were still top of the League so I'm afraid that excuse can't really be used.
My concern is that Klopp is trying to shoehorn a player in that at this moment doesn't suit the way we play or used to play.
I can't buy the excuses that he only will come into his own when he has certain players beside him, surely that can be said for any player. He isn't showing much offensively or defensively for me, but I do agree that he is a good passer of the ball but it is having no impact on our results.
For me he is a luxury player, who lasts 70 minutes and hasn't played a single killer pass but seemingly the fault lies with everyone else except Thiago.

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05 Mar 2021 18:47:49
It was borderline ridiculous along time ago if you ask me.

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05 Mar 2021 18:46:57
He has hardly had a look in at Porto, which is unfortunate for him. He's a good player but if he isn't getting a look in then sell him and stop dicking about. We need the dosh.

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