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12 Dec 2019 13:15:57
The Salzburg sporting director, Christoph Freund, said on Thursday that the club had held discussions with Liverpool. “I can confirm that there are talks with Liverpool at the moment. It is an honour [for us] to see the calibre of clubs who are interested in our players. ”

I guess there is some truth behind the Minamino rumours after all.

zpecialone

1.) 12 Dec 2019 14:11:40
James Pearce tweeted a couple hours ago that Minamino moving to Liverpool is "highly likely".


2.) 12 Dec 2019 14:19:13
I really liked the look of Minamino, albeit admittedly from a very small sample set of matches.

Seems to be very versatile player to cover any of the front three positions and a more natural like replacement for our style of play than a Origi or Shaqiri.

Also reminds me a bit of Son with his ability to play all across the front line, and who I’ve always thought would be perfect fit for us.


3.) 12 Dec 2019 14:21:05
Ed1, what do you make of this as a potential transfer? A good addition?

{Ed001's Note - looks a very good player but I have only seen him against us and he only looked good when we sat back. Just look at the second half, he was anonymous. So difficult to judge him as they were not giving him the ball and he was not able to get it back on his own. I certainly would not be against signing him from what I saw, though his end product was very inconsistent, at best.}


4.) 12 Dec 2019 14:32:05
Cheers Ed, you’re not usually wrong about players so if your even half on board with it, it’s a good sign for me.

{Ed001's Note - if those games are a good indicator, then he is probably the best option I have seen to slot into our team in recent months.}


5.) 12 Dec 2019 15:00:22
Watching those Youtube clips, RBS score some beautiful goals, haha.


6.) 12 Dec 2019 15:05:53
Also consider the price, a reported release clause of 7.5 million. In today's market that's a steal.


7.) 12 Dec 2019 15:28:39
Well that escalated quickly.

End of the road for Shaq? I know he would've played more often without injuries, but there isn't exactly a massive hole in the squad when he's missing.


8.) 12 Dec 2019 16:23:05
He seems to be keen and has the right attitude to play and press which is a good start, I bet he can’t believe his luck that we are interested. I thought we would be linked with him and Haaland after the game as it seems to be the way, but this one seems to have legs.

We have said for a while we are looking for a creative midfielder and cover for the wings and he looks like he could offer both.

When Salzburg were on it, he was always involved and we are most likely to have the ball and be required to break teams down, which he looks like he will help do! For the reported fee, looks a steal.


9.) 12 Dec 2019 19:03:35
Ed2 said the release clause is irrelevant to us so I expect it to be more than the £7.5mil reported.
Regardless though I think he looks a player and would do well for us if it happens.

{Ed002's Note - That would be Liverpool’s srarti g point,}


10.) 12 Dec 2019 20:40:41
We welcome Minamino (on 1/ 1/ 2020)
£7.25m. that's the money from selling Kent very well spent ;)


11.) 12 Dec 2019 23:11:52
Cheers Ed2. Do you think that Salzburg’s president making the talks public are a tactic to bring other teams in to drive the price up? I wouldn’t blame him if it was he’s got to be worth more than £7m in today’s market.

{Ed002's Note - No.}


12.) 13 Dec 2019 13:39:48
To be fair ed001, regarding your point of him being at his best when we sat back, the majority of the teams we face, particularly in the league tend to sit back for large portions of the game. I think on of the only problems we’ve had over the last couple of seasons is breaking down teams who sit back and this lad could be the final piece in the jigsaw!


13.) 13 Dec 2019 19:29:06
If Minamino is indeed brought in, then i'd say he's a good replacement for Shaqiri. Minamino accelerates faster, has a wider range of play on the field (Shaq is mostly right sided) and I feel he could probably take on the defensive aspect that Klopp requires from his midfielders, far better. I too, saw him play only twice (against us) and went through some videos. There's a quickness in thinking and movement that suits our game very well. He's 24, therefore moving into his prime years; so maybe the inconsistency will settle down. Who knows, but he looks good.


 

 

01 Jul 2017 03:46:07
Hi Ed002,

Did you confirm that Liverpool have agreed a fee with RBL for Keita in a post about Laimer to RBL which seems to have been taken down?

Cheers.

zpecialone

{Ed002's Note - No, Liverpool has not agreed any fee with RBL over Naby Keita and unless something has changed overnight they have yet to make any offer to RBL.}


1.) 01 Jul 2017 08:43:45
The tabloids are loving it, looks like this Keita news is going on overdrive this weekend.


2.) 01 Jul 2017 09:08:05
When the news is that Liverpool are 'preparing' a bid for the player it just shows how bad the leakage situation is at Liverpool. I'm not sure any other club has this problem to the same extent. Ed please can we have you opinion on who is to blame for the porous nature of information-security at our club and what can be done to fix it?

{Ed002's Note - Well it was Klopp who briefed the press - so him. As for the "preparing a bid" I have no idea what that means. Are they going from sofa to sofa looking for cash? Is some one checking the spelling on the fax?}


3.) 01 Jul 2017 09:39:11
ed002 why do you have to try and be funny and blunt about the wording people use? obviously you know what the guy meant.

{Ed002's Note - I answered his question - it was KLOPP who briefed several members of the press so he is to be held accountable. Are you some sort of halfwit? You tell me what "preparing a bid" means then.}


4.) 01 Jul 2017 09:52:15
Haha, thanks Ed. I agree. Maybe they're wrapping up a cake and some prezzies with shiny paper and ribbons and hiring an old Spitfire to drop it over Leipzig. Not sure RB will appreciate the gesture.

And thanks Gayfish, but he wasn't being rude towards me, I was only using the phrase in the press, which makes little sense to me.


5.) 01 Jul 2017 09:58:17
It clearly means sat with the transfer committee, talking about what would be an acceptable first offer! Prepare the £15 million offer from liverpool! 😂.


6.) 01 Jul 2017 10:12:01
I recall that Klopp said that talks were ongoing regarding transfer targets. I don't recall him talking specifically about who so I'm not sure how that makes him accountable or even what he'd be accountable for.

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you are talking about. The talks with van Dijk were the result of an illegal approach from Liverpool and Klopp briefed certain members of the press in order to unsettle targets. If he also made illegal approaches to the three other players then it would be reasonable to expect retribution. This has been done to death.}


7.) 01 Jul 2017 10:15:09
I would imagine the powers that be sit round a table and decide how much the player is worth and if they are prepared to pay the asking price.

{Ed002's Note - What "asking price" would that be?}


8.) 01 Jul 2017 10:26:26
Even I felt it was odd when late last season, Klopp was saying that "talks were on going with prospective targets". I have never heard a manager say that in public regarding transfers. I do not recall him ever mentioning players by name tho I could be wrong but even if no names are mentioned, it still seems odd which goes hand in hand with the tapping up nonsense he seems seems unable to stop.

{Ed002's Note - He briefed members of the press and gave them four names in order to unsettle the players. Why do you want to drag this all up again?}


9.) 01 Jul 2017 10:49:12
what do you want posters to do? know exactly how transfers work step by step and know exactly what wording to use?

{Ed002's Note - It has been explained to posters how transfer work and most are fine with that. Perhaps you wouldn't have embarrassed yourself if you read posts on the site and searched for such things.}


10.) 01 Jul 2017 10:50:18
Just a quick question:

Who is really invovled on transfer talks with the player/ clubs? Surely it can't be just the manager. Because everything i mostly read on here regarding the tapping up situation or anything transfer talks related really is about Klopp doing stuff.

{Ed002's Note - Klopp was the one who met with van Dijk and then continued communicating with him. The two letters warning the club over illegal approaches last summer both related to approaches made directly by Klopp.}


11.) 01 Jul 2017 10:57:27
"talks were on going with prospective targets". Internal discussions targeting certain players nothing wrong with that.

{Ed002's Note - It is like some sort of joke. So you think Liverpoool did not illegally approach van Dijk? Isn't that a very stupid position to take?}


12.) 01 Jul 2017 11:19:09
When we get charged by the FA for an illegal approach then I'll believe we did. Until then Ed even you can't claim we did anything wrong. Innocent until proven guilty and we have not been found guilty of anything.

{Ed002's Note - I am sorry. The club issued a grovelling apology and withdrew intersest in van Dijk. You are some sort of idiot if you are still in denial of this. And don't forget that club are already serving one ban for making an illegal approach.}


13.) 01 Jul 2017 11:25:21
I may have missed a post concerning this but who were the two letters from and about who? I know this must go on all the time but isn't Klopp treading a fine line?

{Ed002's Note - It was dealt with last year and unimportant. Klopp is well over the line - this has all be dealt with recently but again all of those morons in denial are out.}


14.) 01 Jul 2017 11:28:01
Could that not just be because they respect the position of Southampton so apologised for any misunderstanding and withdrew their interest to avoid any animosity between the clubs? Nothing has been proven, I'd argue you'd have to be some kind of idiot to condemn someone without enough evidence to convict. Isn't that what the law is based on in all walks of life, not just football?

{Ed002's Note - A complaint sits on file with the Premier League. Why do you want to drag up all of this yet again?}


15.) 01 Jul 2017 11:33:23
I don't Ed I'm just putting another spin on it. At the end of the day we've not been found guilty of any wrong doing regarding VVD. I think we should accept this, move on and stop bashing the club and Klopp when in actual fact according to the FA who are the law in our league we have no case to answer.

{Ed002's Note - There is no "spin", the club and Klopp get "bashed" because people like you keep dragging it up. I have no idea what the FA has to do with this. You really don't get how bad the club and the manager have been behaving.}


16.) 01 Jul 2017 11:34:37
I'm not sure how anyone can deny what happened given the club itself issued an apology, it's like you all live with your heads in the sand. I love the club and Klopp but poor mistakes have been made. To be honest I'm not sure why we're dragging all of this up again.


17.) 01 Jul 2017 11:42:20
Liverpool's embarrassing apology to Fulham sees Clint Dempsey tapping-up complaint dropped. 2012.

Liverpool banned from signing academy players. (Stoke 12yr old)

All this is Klopps fault is it. Obviously a fundamental issue within liverpool Im sure the idiot transfer committee or agent has badly advised Klopp.

{Ed002's Note - You do want to drag it out then. Nobody has blamed Klopp for either of those matters although he could yet be dragged in to the issue over the ex-Stoke player whose career the club screwed up if that goes to court as planned. He wasn't even at the club when there was tapping up when there was the tapping up of Dempsey, nor when the club had Gerrard tap up players on their behalf. Klopp is far from an innocent party but of course you want to blame the "idiot transfer committee" or "agent" and absolve him. This really is the sort of nonsense that does indeed make some fans a complete laughing stock.}


18.) 01 Jul 2017 12:48:50
Why doesn't the club put a gagging order on Klopp with respect to other team's players?
I don't get it, it's like they want him to keep doing it.


19.) 01 Jul 2017 13:11:58
Thanks, Ed for the clarification and for full disclosure, I have and will never defend the club or Klopp for any tapping up issues we and he have had. What he has done is flat out disgraceful and should be reprimanded internally by the owners. And to those defending the club or Klopp and deflecting on this issue, you seriously need to knock it off with your pathetic excuses and arguments for defending the indefensible. It is becoming pathetic and like Ed02, I am fed up with it.


20.) 01 Jul 2017 13:41:35
Just for the record Ed I didn't drag anything up if you look at the thread it was being discussed before I got involved. It just makes me laugh that we've got so called Liverpool fans bashing the club and manager for an issue they know very little about. If we were found guilty of tapping up and the details made public then we could all have an opinion good or bad. Until then there has been no proven guilt so we need to forget it and move on. There's no point criticising base on hearsay and half truths.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have been found guilty - you seem to grasp any of this.}


21.) 01 Jul 2017 14:08:10
I bet some of you wish you'd "prepared" your postes more! So just to summarise; Southampton are out of order!


22.) 01 Jul 2017 16:25:07
Are we, honestly, still talking about this? I leave the page for a week and it's still happening? Klopp was a jerk. LFC have been jerks.
We need to buck our ideas up and do the right thing by other clubs and their players whilst we still have some clubs who want to deal with us.
It's not difficult. We know the rules. Break them, we pay the price.
Fully deserved as well.


23.) 01 Jul 2017 17:02:41
I'm sure we were done for tapping up Christian ziege all them years ago. Were masters of tapping up. Haha. Not good tho.


24.) 01 Jul 2017 22:26:42
Blimey, this thread has got a little rancorous. Just like the good old days!
Liverpool has picked up a reputation for sailing close to the wind over several years and Klopp seems to be continuing that trend. Naughty, naughty. However, singling out LFC and its fans for special treatment is not really fair. When compared to several top-flight continental European teams, Liverpool is relatively clean. Relatively. And as for Chelsea.
This is hardly the most heavily regulated industry in the world and is dominated by individual owners whose staggering wealth has been almost always been gathered by questionable means, assisted by dodgy advisers, agents and others.
I would suggest we move on from this subject and focus on the tiny nuggets of reality amongst the torrent of transfer speculation.
And "done deals", of course.
Cheers.


25.) 02 Jul 2017 12:21:00
Ed002 can i clarfy something that may have caused the initial confusion at the start of this rehashing. Where you say briefed journalists I'm reading that as the old fashioned quiet chat, unofficial, off the record type of thing not formal press conferences. Would that be correct and why people are struggling to see where Klopp has briefed the press?

{Ed002's Note - Yes, a number of journalistes were briefed by Klopp and given the names of four players in an attempt to unsettle the players.}


26.) 02 Jul 2017 17:20:53
Thanks fot clarifying Ed002.


27.) 03 Jul 2017 01:08:52
Some facts for you kids:
1. What the club has done is shameful. No other word to describe it.
2. We have done that before, plenty of times.
3. Other clubs do it all the time, but that is not an excuse.
4. We do not want the same done to us, although it happened (e: Suarez)
5. A manager does what the club allows him to. He knows very well that this is against the rules, so he could only have done it with unofficial backing.
6. Players and former players have been involved in this activity as well.


 

 

11 Apr 2017 21:41:24
Steven Gerrard is set to manage the U18s next season. Anyone know how he's been getting on and whether this is a deserved promotion for him?

zpecialone

 

 

21 May 2016 11:06:55
Hi Ed002,

With Sakho facing an imminent ban, do you think Liverpool could turn to Sule? I think you recommended him as a player we should/ could target, and he seems very highly rated in Germany.

Cheers.

zpecialone

{Ed002's Note - I would have had him in preference to Matip but right now LIverpool are not looking at him.}


1.) 21 May 2016 21:11:35
Thanks for the reply Ed, would've preferred Sule on the reports I've heard/ read but hopefully Matip comes in a proves to be an absolute legend.


2.) 21 May 2016 21:17:05
Matip is in the official Bundesliga team of the season. Not seen much of him but seems like he is highly rated in Germany.


3.) 21 May 2016 22:15:47
I think he'll be a revelation alongside Lovren.


4.) 21 May 2016 22:36:02
to be fair ed i think saving the transfer fee makes matip the better deal plus he has more experience u have said we are in a lot of debt.


5.) 22 May 2016 02:21:12
The mail are reporting interest in sule.


6.) 22 May 2016 03:09:59
Apparently sule and tahs agents were at the final. Sakho will be kept. Skrtel toure ilori wisdom jones will be sold. Need then 2 cbs as gomez will cover fullbacks.


7.) 22 May 2016 04:59:29
Voted into Bundesliga team of the year. there's a lot of centre backs in Bundesliga, believe it or not. He must be good.


8.) 22 May 2016 07:23:48
I'm sold on Sule, want him to replace Skrtel.


9.) 22 May 2016 07:38:47
I think with the possible outgoings we would have Lovren sahko (banned), matip and probably toure as our centre backs with Lucas as a utility centre back/ defensive midfielder (I could also see Lucas going tbh) . Is Lucas was to leave then I think we would definitely need a centre back as it is, it would be typical of us not to get one in even though we need more quality in there. I don't think matip is an improvement on what we have already from what I've seen since we got him.


10.) 22 May 2016 14:04:53
I watch bundesliga regularly and matip is easily a 20 million defender. Has a great partnership with howedes, he's very good in the air, strong and likes to bring it out and play a bit. A poor man's Hummels if you would. He ain't going to be no bench warmer.


11.) 22 May 2016 15:31:47
People seem to be forgetting Joe Gomez, is he not a CB?

I know he played LB at the start of the season but thought his natural position was CB.


12.) 22 May 2016 16:41:46
Sule was mentioned by Ed002 ages ago. I think it's a good shout.


 

 

01 Jun 2015 11:01:30
Hi Ed002,

I remember you had this fantastic list of all our targets (or at least the ones you know of), but I was wondering whether you could provide an update on that list?

Thanks in advance.

zpecialone

{Ed002's Note - There are some minor updates but much of this will change by the summer and there are major dependencies on (a) players leaving (b) how much money the club can raise through sales, (c) any change in senior management or the management structure. However, there is known to be (or have recently been) some level of interest in the following players:

GK: Marshall and Bogdan have attracted confirmed recent attention and are viable replacements for Jones. Thoughts seem to have moved on completely from Patricio, Ochoa, Neto (won't happen), Sportiello (unconfirmed to some extent as Atalanta and the player heard about the interest from an Italian journalist), Romero, Ryan and Ruddy right now. The club have also looked at many others including Mattia Perin - who is financial beyond Liverpool.
RB: Wisdom will return and there is aa new deal for Flanagan and Toure. But if Manquillo and Johnson both leave then the club may look for a new RB - I don't see this as a proiority. If Rodgers remains as manager it is not out of the question that Ibe may be tried in a wing back role. The likes of Adriano and Alves have been mentioned by agents as possible options but such players will be expensive and are unlikely to end in anything but tears. Danilo was looked at but certainly won't happen. Folks, I assume because of something in the press, have been asking about Janmaat moving to Liverpool. I don't know of interest but I am pretty sure Newcastle would not want to sell.
LB: Sam Byram has been watched - a move to Liverpool seems unlikely. Hard again to see LB as a priority, particularly withwith the system being played.
CB: A new deal has been given to Toure. I doubt a CB is a priority - at least not before the club clear out some of those already on the books (Skrtel, Lovren, Sakho, Ilori, Coates, Paez, Lloyd Jones and Kolo Touré).
MF: Milner remains very much on the cards. I understand from an ex-German international that Liverpool were very keen on Lars Stindl but he has decided to reject the interest of Liverpool and will move to Borussia Mönchengladbach in the summer. Khedira (won't happen), Pjanic (outrageously expensive), Vazquez (interest seems to have gone). Even though he has very recently extended his contract, Inter are willing to sell Kovacic (at the right price)and have spoken with Barcelona, Arsenal, Liverpool and Hertha Berlin - the Liverpool offer would need to be doubled to give any sort of chance of a deal. Inter now say they will keep Kovacic as no deal seems possible and will make another player available. However, Barcelona will return with their convoluted offer for him. If Liverpool want to do something it will take a significant increase on their previous offer. Filipe Anderson has been watched but nothing will happen with Liverpool.
F/W:Right now it is something like this for the players that I understand have been looked at:
Mandzukic - Someone representing Liverpool has approached his agent, but as of this time, not Atletico.
Ings - every chance this will go through.
Benteke - interest has returned.
Vietto - talking to Atletico Madrid regarding replacing Griezmann and was hoping on Real Madrid turning to him - has made it clear he wants a move to Atletico - and this has made Real Madrid look elsewhere.
Heung Min Son (I suspect it would be very difficult to make happen as he seems very happy where he is and will be playing in the Champions League)
Carlos Vela (looked at recently but nothing more)
Aubameyang (looked at and there may be interest from Liverpool - he is keen on a move to Italy but the most interested side, Juventus, are now out of the running)
Gameiro (his stock is on the rise but Liverpool have had no recent contact (according to a representative of another interested club)).
Baez (Liverpool have recently been told to say if they are still interested in Baez or not - and if they are to make an offer which is much improved over that offered to Juventud previously - I understand that there has been no response and Juventud are now in talks with another side regarding a transfer - this is probably one to forget now).
Kishna (all English interest has gone or never materialised according to De Boer).
Lacazette (another English side met with Lyon about Lacazette and a number of other issues on April 9 and any move this summer, particularly to England, is not viable right now - Aulas has mocked rumours that Liverpool could by the player).
Firmino (he will most probably move with a number of clubs having made formal approaches, and Manchester City and Inter having had formal discussions with Hoffenheim).
Depay (moving elsewhere).
Bakkali (interest will have gone).
Andre Ayew (a free agent who Liverpool enquired about last summer - looks to be heading elsewhere)
Walcott (if Sterling were to leave then a move for Walcott may be considered).
Cheryshev (if Sterling were to leave then a move for Cheryshev may be considered).


1.) 01 Jun 2015 12:58:26
Very interesting Ed! Thanks very much!


2.) 01 Jun 2015 21:51:39
FSG wake up & stop paying double for absolute rubbish. Then baulking at a bargain price for proper talent.
Get some real players in. Here is what a squad brimming with youth, potential and most importantly the requisite skills/ability/desire/determination would look like, players willing to work hard & succeed.

Alexandre Lacazette
Paulo Dybala
Luciano Vietta

Asier Illaramhendi
Mateo Kovacic
Ross Barkley
Mario Suarez
Max Meyer
Axel Witsel

Andre Ayew
Julian Draxler
Heung Min Son
Hakan Calhanoglu
Kevin DeBruyne
Iker Muniain
Lucas Moura

Inigo Martinez
Simon Kjaer
Stephan De Vrij
Kyriakos Papodopolous
Fabian Schar
Ricardo Rodriguez
Mateo Di Sciglio

Andre Der Stegen

No Messi. Ronaldo, Pogba, James Rodriguez, Marcos Reus, Phillip Lahm etc because no realistic chance of them ever coming to LFC. But we could get a couple of those listed, at least


3.) 02 Jun 2015 01:36:12
Those mostly sound better than last summer's dealings. Would hope we don't sign Benteke, but overall it's an encouraging list of possibilities.

I still think we need to look to a player of Benzema's quality. In my humble view, we really do need a quality, proven goal scorer.

Thanks Ed002.


4.) 02 Jun 2015 08:15:26
Haha, possibilities? Get off your cloud and keep the fantasy football on the wishes page please.


5.) 01 Jun 2015 13:01:07
So what's all this about a bid for Clyne and an upcoming improved bid? Untrue Ed?

And Garbutt for LB please. :)


 

 

 

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22 Feb 2020 15:55:16
Imagine being a Chelsea fan and having to stomach the Maguire and Lo Celso VAR decisions within the same week. Absolutely shocking!

zpecialone

1.) 22 Feb 2020 16:35:01
Winning the match today made it a bit easier to digest that decision, but it's simply astonishing how they take minutes to review it and still come to the inexplicably wrong conclusion.


2.) 22 Feb 2020 16:49:21
They said they made a mistake. which begs the questions of what is the point of having VAR if they cannot get something as blatant as that correct after seeing replays. Officials are the problem - incompetent and more concerned with protecting their own backs rather than officiating games properly. VAR has, instead of being a tool to rectify genuine mistakes, been used as a tool to support officials incapable of doing the job properly. Utterly awful.

{Ed025's Note - your spot on seano, VAR is a disgrace and should be binned as a matter of urgency..


3.) 22 Feb 2020 19:09:43
It was as bad as the Maguire error the other day.


4.) 22 Feb 2020 21:10:56
Just get rid of it, it’s not even improving it’s getting gradually worse every week.


5.) 22 Feb 2020 22:12:18
I'm of the opinion we should not get rid of VAR as I think used properly it can be a force for good in the game. I've seen games from other leagues from around the world where it is used brilliantly, the A leauge in Australia for one, they take a few seconds to look at the monitor on the pitch and the ref makes a decision.

Here's my feeling, I think the Premier league are deliberately sabotaging the use of VAR with stupid decisions and taking 3 minuets a time to micro analyse an offside so people say what you are, let's get rid . So when a refs make shocking decisions in a game and there's no VAR the leauge can say " you had VAR, you did not want it so we got rid, live with the reffing as it is".


6.) 23 Feb 2020 00:51:25
Out of curiosity, there have been instances of retroactive punishment before VAR. Is that a consideration for Lo Celso and Maguire?


7.) 23 Feb 2020 05:10:15
I 100% agree Kimuraking. Just use it for offsides and then let the ref view other decisions before making/ overturning them.


8.) 23 Feb 2020 05:37:55
Var is far from perfect which has been disappointing to us all this year but the fact is that there has still been a huge increase in correct decisions being made as opposed to previous years despite many mistakes still occurring due to human error and bad officiating. It will improve over time but we're overreacting to some incidents. Without VAR would there be the same outcry regarding lo Celso and Maguire decisions if it was last season and the ref made the same decision? Of course we would criticise but not to this extent, officiating is the problem, not VAR.


9.) 23 Feb 2020 07:33:54
Apparently I'm the only person left who doesn't see the issue with VAR, yes they made a mistake, but so did the ref, he just gave a throw in, why is noone talking about that? Or saying we need to take refs out of the game?
All VAR is is a replay, at the end of the day I think its more likely to get the correct result with the option of replays from a number of angles compared to one man's view from one angle once.
All VAR mistakes are down to the officials so why would I be screaming out for them to have even less help?
Take VAR away from the refs, tighten up and simplify a few rules around offside and handball.


10.) 23 Feb 2020 10:16:40
I'm with you JevonScholes. Fans are just frustrated by VAR so keep overreacting and shouting "bin it", without recognising that these red cards and De Brunye/ Barnes penalty calls are just human judgement and knowledge issues - not technology issues. I hope they employ sports scientists and independent advisors to work with VAR teams to get over these issues rather than going back to much worse system where the referee and linesman could make an absolute howler and simply claim 'we didn't see it'.


11.) 23 Feb 2020 10:32:15
The problem with VAR here is we use it differently than everyone else. For some reason we decided refs shouldn't look at the monitor - other leagues just do this.

The ref should look at VAR screen and make decisions this way it remains his decision but he gets the chance to rectify any mistakes.

Personally I think a case can be made for removing the ref from the pitch entirely. With the cameras we have these days he can see everything from a booth, much more than he can on the pitch. He could also not be influenced by crowds, players and managers if he is not on the pitch. It would also enable great refs to continue even when their fitness can't keep up anymore.


12.) 23 Feb 2020 14:35:46
The ref's don't get a pass on this one, I'm sorry. You don't need to have seen that Lo Celso incident 5 times to see it was a straight red. You only needed to see it twice at best to know. The fact that the VAR operator could not see the challenge was up high on Azpi's leg with him on the ground (defenceless) and with the ball already gone out of play, after 5 shots at it just tells you the level of incompetence we are dealing with.

To make things worse, why didn't Micheal Oliver do what he had done before, go see the monitor on the sideline and judge for himself cos refs are allowed to do that now? If he did not do that then that is his fault and should be belted for it. IMO, VAR works very well cos as we see in other leagues, they are trying to make it work. In the PL, it seems like they wanted it to fail from jump so they can discard it later and it is getting close to that time now.


 

 

15 Feb 2020 05:33:52
Hi eds,

I'm sure you're sick of answering Man City questions, but I kind of wanted to ask a couple that approaches the issue from the a different angle.

1. Are the rulings of CAS legally binding? In recent years, Barcelona and Chelsea have gone with the CAS ruling instead of the original UEFA (or was it FIFA? ) verdicts, but what authority does CAS actually have? If, say, CAS reduces Man City's ban to only one season banned from Europe, can UEFA still refuse entry for Man City into European competitions in the second year and stick by their original punishment?

2. How much of what's happening can be attributed to Football Leaks? Now that the furore has died down over FL, has it brought about any positive change like the creator of FL allegedly wanted, even if it used illegal means?

Anyway, cheers, I appreciate y'all putting in so much of your time for us.

zpecialone

{Ed002's Note - (1) CAS provides an arbitration service and is most regulary used for appeals agaisnt UEFA decisions. The legal standing and jurisdiction of CAS is covered by the UEFA statutes (Rules) that all clubs agree to when playing in UEFA competitions and under UEFA rules. In terms of refusal of entry, The FA has the power to refuse to nominate sides and UEFA has the power to refuse entry if they wish. However, like the clubs, UEFA gas to adhere by CAS decisions. (2) The initial stories were carried by the New York Times and relayed after checking the details as far as was possible. Subsequently Rui Pinto used Der Spiegel, Reuters and Mediapart to share the stolen information. Pinto quite rightly remains imprisoned still at this time.}


1.) 15 Feb 2020 13:53:13
Sorry if I’ve sent the same post twice but I think I sent it before I finished.

Ed002, if CAS rule in city’s favour due to how the documents were obtained, can CAS still prosecute? As it’s black and white that they’ve cooked there books in some form or another.

{Ed002's Note - CAS don't prosecute and how do you know they have "cooked the books"?}


2.) 15 Feb 2020 14:50:38
Well I’m assuming they have else surely FIFA wouldn’t have taken the action they have? Obviously I’m just going by what I’ve read, I respect your knowledge and insight.

I’m just curious if CAS rule in city’s favour, will FIFA be able to investigate any further?

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - None of this is anything to do with FIFA. The issue Manchester City had with FIFA was closed out in December.}


3.) 15 Feb 2020 16:20:20
Thanks for the replies ed002 :) . Even if the ban is eventually overturned, I don't think I'm going to forget how shocked I was to read the headlines this morning anytime soon haha.


 

 

11 Jan 2020 12:20:38
Hey ed001, what do you think of Diego Carlos? According to ed002, we have declared an interest in him, and I'll have to be honest and say I've never heard of him, let alone watched him before. If you haven't seen him play either, could you spare some time for a player profile please? Many thanks ed.

zpecialone

{Ed001's Note - I haven't seen him play so I have added him to the list for you.}


1.) 11 Jan 2020 22:21:07
Ed, have you got a pill function on here? As you have so many player profiles and articles building up, why don’t you run a poll for which one people most want? Maybe pick 5 at random when you have time, and the highest votes wins?

{Ed001's Note - I have been intending to do that, it was something I talked about with Ed033 about setting up last year. But then other things interfered and it got shelved and forgotten about. I will speak to him again about setting something up.}


2.) 12 Jan 2020 11:33:56
I used to go to a few pill functions in the 90s before i settled down.


 

 

30 Dec 2019 05:30:07
Has anyone consulted the Premier League records and found out just how prolific armpits, nose hairs and toe nail clippings have been in the past compared to this season?

zpecialone

1.) 30 Dec 2019 10:14:23
I’d like to see Klopp encourage hipster beards and Elvis quiffs just to give us those extra millimeter advantages.


 

 

23 Dec 2019 12:37:46
Hi ed001,

We all know how much you admire Saul Niguez and Jose Gimenez, and considering we're playing Atletico in the Champions League, I'd like to ask what you think of the rest of their squad? Specifically, how do you rate Koke? He was linked frequently to Barcelona a few years back, but at 27, we don't seem to hear that much of him anymore (at least in the media) .

Anyway, thanks for your time :) .

zpecialone

{Ed001's Note - Koke's development was held back because of Simeone's insistence on misusing him. He never gets used to his strengths, as that would involve him getting forward too much. There is a real player in there if he gets given some freedom. To be fair, he is excellent even though hampered.}


1.) 23 Dec 2019 13:40:25
Cheers ed, I seem to recall Koke playing as an attacking mid behind Costa the first time Atleti reached the Champions League final under Simeone and he had the most assists in the Champions League that season or something like that. Was a while ago though, so can't remember the exact details.

{Ed001's Note - I don't know, but I do know he is an attacking mid when playing at his best. It is little wonder Atleti are considering Simeone's future at the moment, those players are better than he is making them look.}


2.) 23 Dec 2019 16:46:23
Is Joao Felix living up to expectations? He was the hottest name on everyone's lips and I've heard pretty much nothing since he's signed for Atleti.

{Ed001's Note - no, he is not playing particularly badly but he is also not setting the heather alight either.}


3.) 23 Dec 2019 17:11:17
Thanks Ed001. I guess we know he'll still have it in his locker and could still play a one-off blinder against us.

I was kind of surprised that he signed for Atleti, with Simeone not particularly known for giving his attacking players freedom. He'll surely have had a decent list of clubs to choose from at the time.

{Ed001's Note - but which was willing to pay 100+m for him?}


4.) 23 Dec 2019 17:18:50
That's a good point Ed001. Was no-one else prepared to pay that? I seem to remember Juve being keen on pairing him up with Ronaldo.

That could also just be the case of him being Portuguese and the media making 2 and 2 equal 5.

{Ed001's Note - not at the time was anyone willing to just pay the asking price. That was the key, Atleti just paid.}


 

 

 

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25 May 2020 12:07:34
Interesting to see we were still interested in Zielinski after so long. Delighted we ended up with Gini though, and hope he signs a new contract soon.

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{Ed002's Note - No more than a wildcard but the closest match to Adam Lallana and Napoli have been in some turmoil but they are now settling. And of course a Klopp favourite, and a very good player.}


 

 

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17 May 2020 09:22:56
Brandt is a much better player than Cantwell but I think you're missing one of the major appeals of Cantwell: he'd be a HG player replacing an outgoing HG player in Lallana. Brandt would take up yet another non-HG space and we're already skating close to the edge registration wise.

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02 May 2020 10:26:44
I really rate Gomez but signing a top quality CB is a good move. Apart from VVD, our other three CBs Gomez, Lovren and Matip haven't been able to keep fit for long periods of time (whether their fault or others) and the CBs are one area of the pitch (along with GK) you want the barest minimum of swapping players about. Also, the new CB could slot in for VVD who has barely had a rest since signing for us. Whether that top quality CB is Diego Carlos or Ben White, I don't know, but I trust the scouts and the manager to bring in the right player.

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17 Mar 2020 06:13:34
Where are we going to get 300m euros to spend on them all, Matteo?

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18 Feb 2020 07:57:48
Admittedly I've only seen Lewis in one game against Shrewsbury, but I think he's a better player currently than Larouci, and I think he's got more potential than Larouci too, who seems overly reliant on his physical attributes. It's just my opinion though, I'm sure Klopp and Ljinders are better equipped at judging these players than I ever will be.

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29 May 2020 16:26:01
This got me thinking of long range goals we've scored under Klopp, and apart from Couts, the ones that stick out are the Ox scoring in the PL and the CL against City a couple of seasons ago (Salah scored far out in that first game too but that was basically an open goal), and Fabs scoring against City this season. Kind of interesting that we've scored a few from long range against City.

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15 May 2020 15:51:51
Are we replacing Mbappe and Sancho already? What a shame, had high hopes for our new youngsters!

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14 May 2020 16:57:54
Not a new keeper to replace Kepa, ed002? Feels like that and left back are the biggest problem positions Chelsea have at the moment.

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{Ed002's Note - Ok.}


 

 

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08 May 2020 16:53:00
There was a player in Germany who had a clause in his contract that demanded his club build him a new house every year. However, he had made no specifications on the house (i. e. size, location etc), so the club built him tiny houses made of Lego every year.

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11 Apr 2020 09:46:08
How do you rate Souness as a manager, ed001? He seemed to have some decent success abroad but it didn't really work out at Liverpool.

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{Ed001's Note - he was ok when he was working with a lesser standard of player who were overawed by him. The better quality needed at Liverpool just were not.}