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08 Aug 2021 11:28:04
Wonder Dog Sparky posted this around half an hour ago: "Skipping in from his playroom, Sparky says has been wondering if Origi and Phillips for Bowen might be of interest to Liverpool. "

Thoughts? Would you be happy with that?

zpecialone

1.) 08 Aug 2021 11:34:39
Is Wonderdog Sparky the reincarnation of Ted Rogers, and more importantly, can he do that 3 2 1 thing with his paws?

{Ed002's Note - I don’t think he knows who Ted Rogers is. Do you mean Ginger Rogers?}


2.) 08 Aug 2021 11:37:44
I think that’s a good deal for West Ham.
For us as well? Maybe yeah. We are getting a piece of the jigsaw sorted. I just worry about letting Phillips go, I can’t see it as anything other than a risk, that might be me being overly cautious after watching our defence crumble last season though.
For the 3 players involved I think it suits all 3 as well.


3.) 08 Aug 2021 11:38:38
Not sure id be happy payine 30-35 million for Bowen which is roughly the value of Nat and Div. Think id prefer to just keep them both tbh.


4.) 08 Aug 2021 11:52:19
I'd prefer to keep Nat and not sign Bowen but in terms of valuations, West Ham would reject this.

Nat clearly has been available for £15M and a bid of around £12M would surely do for Origi so £27M for Bowen - I think West Ham would want closer to £35M.


5.) 08 Aug 2021 12:08:10
£20mill more like, think we'd be doing well to get £8m for Divock in this market. And Phillips is a FIFTH choice defender, if anyone is willing to give us £12-15m jump on it.


6.) 08 Aug 2021 12:21:46
We have to wait until VVD and Gomez are fully fit. We have to learn from last year. Phillips can be sold in Jan if all is well.


7.) 08 Aug 2021 12:33:49
If somebody offered us £ 35m for Origi and Phillips I would be very surprised if the overwhelming majority on didn’t say yes.

By the same token, we are (allegedly) looking for a versatile front player who would basically be a back-up, along with Jota and possibly Ox and Elliot for our front three. I assume but am ready to stand corrected, that Bowen is classified as HG and selling Divock would mean we could sign another Johnny Foreigner type of chap?

So, in theory we would seem to be getting a potentially reasonable deal. That said (10 pts if you can think of one) - when was the last time that a transfer happened that consisted of three players in a swap deal?

Perhaps Sparky is just being a bit mischievous after all?


8.) 08 Aug 2021 13:07:59
Have to say i'd rather loan an attacker like Coutinho for a season than pay silly money for Bowen, especially when we have such good young players coming through in them positions.


9.) 08 Aug 2021 13:39:21
I think this wouldn’t be a bad deal. Bowen suits our style better than Origi. Of course he’s got to a lot of work to do on his game but mane wasn’t the finished article before he joined.

As for Phillips if he wants to get minutes who are we to stop him after the shift he put in last season…unless everyone saying keep him means he should start before konate, matip, Vvd and Gomez.


 

 

03 Aug 2021 17:23:34
Fabs has just signed a new long term contract with the club. Brilliant news.

zpecialone

1.) 03 Aug 2021 18:15:38
Owners won't spend though.


2.) 03 Aug 2021 18:52:26
If they sign Saul or Bissouma then all is forgiven.


3.) 03 Aug 2021 19:33:08
This is definitely a smokescreen for mbappe!


4.) 03 Aug 2021 19:45:58
Can see Bobby and Hendo being left out of new contract talks, or at least not what they might be looking for. let's be honest, if Biss or Saul are signed, then its going to be a battle for starting with Thiago and Fab nailed on.


5.) 03 Aug 2021 19:56:18
I don’t know why I am getting involved but Spaceman it’s obvious why Fabs is nailed on but what has Thiago done to earn the right to be a definite starter? Surely he has to earn that right this season.


6.) 03 Aug 2021 21:04:29
Thiago is starting alongside Hendo and Fab if all are fit. That is the midfield that started at Everton before things went to hell in a hand basket which means that had always been the plan when he arrived. Don’t see why that would change.


7.) 03 Aug 2021 22:12:15
That will change depending on form, fitness, a new signing etc. Gini ended up playing the full season. Hopefully Jones steps up to push for a spot and if we play the 4 forwards I would imagine Thiago would drop out.


8.) 03 Aug 2021 22:59:37
Two reasons Mark

1. Klopp went on to a strike to get Thiago over the line. If he doesn’t start when fit then he would look like an absolute fool.

2. Someone who is excellent in press resistant, and has a sublime vision to pick a pass plus the only midfielder who could break the lines needs to start.

Who is he Inferior to in the squad today?


9.) 03 Aug 2021 23:11:44
What does reason No.1 mean? Klopp went on strike?

{Ed0666's Note - news to me also. It truly is a Peculiar comment. Maybe he has insider knowledge.


10.) 03 Aug 2021 23:15:16
'Klopp went on to a strike to get Thiago over the line. ' - This is a lie, embarrassing yet again.


11.) 03 Aug 2021 23:54:10
Thiago can hardly be judged on last season Mark. Get behind the lad cus he's one of our lot and sure as s**t ain't leaving tomorrow 😅.


12.) 04 Aug 2021 03:10:55
Here we go. The inventing and making up of stories has restarted. Outright lies to make a point, while smearing anyone along the way.

The Eds really should not be allowing this. Absolutely nobody else does it to this extent.

{Ed0666's Note - eds shouldn’t allow what? am I missing something? Calm down, Calm down ArAy (I’ve always wanted to say that) you’re gonna blow a gasket.


13.) 04 Aug 2021 03:21:34
Ed0666, it's Harry with the lie about Klopp going on strike to get Thiago signed. You obviously haven't seen how far he goes and has gone in the past. Check with Ed001 when you have a chance.

{Ed0666's Note - It amazes me how you guys pick up on Harry’s new aliases. I never can. I know Harry can be a trifle annoying and can rub people up the wrong way but try not to let him get to you mate. If he oversteps boundaries please know he’ll be banned.


14.) 04 Aug 2021 05:04:31
Calm down, calm down ArAy - love it to bits Ed 😁😁

Telling you coffee and toast is getting better snd better - shame we don’t have the old days when you could buy players during the season - now that would have been fun.

{Ed0666's Note - I must be the only person that likes the system we have now a summer and winter period you can buy players. I don’t like the thought of you’re star striker being injured and not being able to replace him till January or the summer


15.) 04 Aug 2021 06:07:00
It's cool with me Ed0666, if it's okay with everyone else. I just wanted to point out that I don't allow anyone to rub me up, at all. I suspect you're confusing me with BarryinLouth? 🤣.

{Ed0666's Note - Barry doesent rub as well as he used to


16.) 04 Aug 2021 09:55:17
Welcome back Harry lol! Can't beat a Harry rumour or for that matter a Harry outright fantasy story or kick off haha!


17.) 04 Aug 2021 08:00:38
Golden Ed 🤣.

{Ed0666's Note - cheers Gandolf ☝️


18.) 04 Aug 2021 09:21:45
I'll used a Mink glove next time Hotlips.

{Ed0666's Note - ooh la la


19.) 04 Aug 2021 09:33:30
Markp08. Thiago has some weekly wages. Is classed as a worldie and he is a starter. Hendo should be too. Top 3 captains of my lifetime. Can understand with age and injuries it’s difficult to sanction a bumper deal. I would if we were cash rich and allowed heart over head. But it’s 2yrs on current. That’s 33-34. With two more seasons of treatment.

IMO I’m now in a place I’d think that win a top title in that time hopefully. Hendo lifts it. He’s 34 a legend and can go play for Sunderland or whoever his boyhood Favourite was. As a business he doesn’t need four years on top wage.


20.) 04 Aug 2021 18:15:36
Mark, that could be true but again it depends on who the opposition is. If a team comes and packs it in the way Newcastle at Anfield did last season then, we will need even more creativity and ball retention in midfield.

In that game, Thiago balled out and was playing defence splitting and blind passes for fun. Had the strikers done their jobs, we don’t even draw that game. Klopp took him off and many thought that cost us the game cos we couldn’t hold on to the ball and Newcastle came into us too much and scored. Tho, I disagree with this notion cos our strikers’ poor play cost us the game, there was some truth to that. We shall see.


 

 

20 Jul 2021 06:31:20
According to Fabrizio Romano, we have agreed a deal to sell Marko Grujic to Porto. Fingers crossed.

zpecialone

1.) 20 Jul 2021 07:11:20
Awoniyi gone as well for 6.5 mil. Looks like we may push hard to bring in a midfielder in the coming days.


2.) 20 Jul 2021 07:38:31
Grujic going to Porto in a loan to buy deal with Awoniyi going to Union Berlin for £6.5mil.


3.) 20 Jul 2021 07:47:33
Its circa 11 million and not a loan to buy for MG to Porto.


4.) 20 Jul 2021 07:55:54
Isn't the Grujic deal a straight sale and not a loan?


5.) 20 Jul 2021 08:07:43
I think the Grujic is a direct sale, Joyce and Jones both seemed to have confirmed it.


6.) 20 Jul 2021 08:25:02
Good Luck to both lads.


7.) 20 Jul 2021 08:42:36
MG is a straight sale as DO will be in the next two weeks. Several inquiries about HW mean that he'll have numerous options whether he decides to stay in the UK or go abroad. XS will hopefully follow. This would then leave room for two to come in - possibly SN and DM.


8.) 20 Jul 2021 09:13:53
Rumours about Nat Phillips to Brighton too, as a replacement for White. The figure mentioned was £ 15m.


9.) 20 Jul 2021 09:23:58
You made me think more than I like to this early in the morning, Reynard, but I have decoded your message and agree with your analysis!


10.) 20 Jul 2021 10:01:30
Finally cleaning out the closet, clearing away the dead wood. Chuck in Shaq and Nat and there is 45m in the pot, and that's without Wilson, Taki, Ojo, and Div, whom could realistically add another 40m to that.

{Ed002's Note - Or maybe the money could be used to pay for Thiago and Jota?}


11.) 20 Jul 2021 10:07:45
If the rumours are to be believed - and they are certainly gathering pace now - we could be looking at banking at least £60m from sales:

Grujic and Awoniyi - £17m between them
Phillips - £15m
Origi, Shaqiri and Wilson are all in the £10-£15m range - £30m-£45m

So that's somewhere between £62m and £77m, and we may get £5m from other sales - we already have a bit from Liam Miller, maybe Woodburn etc.

There's also the possibility of some sell on fee from Luis Alberto, although it looks unlikely we will sell Naby Keita this season, which would have been a decent cash injection.

It appears Dortmund have not yet sealed a deal for Malen, so he's still available, around £25m. So him and Niguez could be covered by our sales (excluding agents fees etc etc) .

Also looking at salaries, between the names above (Grujic, Awoniyi, Phillips, Origi, Shaqiri, Wilson) we have around £200k - £250k of salaries too.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have not paid for last season's transfers yet.}


12.) 20 Jul 2021 10:32:23
They aren’t listening Ed02.

There are no bills to pay when you are playing Premier Manager.


13.) 20 Jul 2021 10:35:33
That’s true, Ed002, thanks for reminding me. 👍.


14.) 20 Jul 2021 10:36:35
Ed002 did Liverpool not arrange a 4 year payment plan for Jota and Thaigo? So should give them a bit more time in payment and a chance to improve the squad with a midfielder and possibly a striker if these transfers go through.

{Ed002's Note - No someone has been misleading you.}


15.) 20 Jul 2021 10:43:25
I think people forget we bought Thiago and Jota on 'buy now, pay later' deals. Makes sense to clear those debts first I reckon.


16.) 20 Jul 2021 10:44:44
Use the money for sales to pay for last year and get this year’s targets on the never-never again. Just kick the can down the road a bit more. Seems to work for the UK Government.


17.) 20 Jul 2021 10:45:21
Do teams usually pay the entire transfer fee upfront? or even over the first 12 months. i thought it was spread over a few years no?

{Ed002's Note - The reason Liverpool ended up with Jota was because the clubs would not accept their long term payment deals for the two players LIverpool preferred.}


18.) 20 Jul 2021 10:51:26
Wilson appears to be next to Fulham.


19.) 20 Jul 2021 10:53:55
If FSG decide not to make the most of Klopps presence and final 3 years at the club, it could affect their big pay day when they sell up. Whilst i agree with prudence, and would rather see us run in a sustainable manner, they also need to consider that having a generational talent managing us is rare and needs to be made the most of.
Is there time for version 2.0 under JK at this rate?


20.) 20 Jul 2021 11:27:06
We didn't have salaries last season for Grujic, Awoniyi or Harry Wilson so we don't have "savings" for these. Same with Taki for half the season anyway.


21.) 20 Jul 2021 10:12:17
My bad! Had read an earlier report that said loan to buy.
£16/ 17mil for 2 players who barely kicked a ball for us.
Perhaps Nat Philips through for £15mil too as previously pointed out and we’ve accrued a nice pot on money.
Hopefully deals for Shaq, Wilson, Origi, Ojo materialise too.


22.) 20 Jul 2021 10:12:26
Happy for the other sales but really confused at why we’re letting nat Phillips go. I know we need to raise funds but he is just not the defender I would let go, Phillips was so reliable and Gomez/ matip are some of the most unreliable players we have, as good as they can be when they get going. We’re essentially relying on 3 injury prone defenders and one that’s coming back from a season out.


23.) 20 Jul 2021 11:35:43
We should ask Brighton about Bissouma at the same time. I can’t help thinking it’s a bit short sighted selling Phillips, but good luck to the lad, I think he’s going to have a very good premier league career.


24.) 20 Jul 2021 11:42:34
VVVV, the key issue on Phillips is what the player wants as well as what's right for the club.

He's 24, and a very decent CB so its not surprising he wants first team football, albeit at a lower level than top 6.


25.) 20 Jul 2021 11:09:19
Quick question ed002. I seen you said that we haven’t paid for last years transfers yet. Liverpool tend to spread the cost of the transfer over the course of the players contracts by the looks of it. Question I’m getting at is

1. Do we do this more than most clubs do?
2. In your opinion on the outside looking in are Liverpool doing the right thing or just kicking the debt further down the road in the hope more success follows which obviously brings in more revenue etc
3. Probably a stupid question and obvious answer but paying for players over a longer period of time does that mean the club pay more in taxes/ interest for example Thiago bought for 20 million, because it was spread over 4-5 years does it cost the club 25 million instead of paying once off payment of 20 million.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool didn't have the money to buy the players they wanted so they had Jota as a third pick because Wolves would accept payments being spread out. Liverpool are building debt and making huge losses - which is why they must sell to buy or do more with the players that they have - and they have some very good youngsters. If payments are spread out the club have to pay a premium.}


26.) 20 Jul 2021 11:29:30
Supposedly there is money already in the kitty without sales. So I assume some money will pay for last year's transfers and the rest will cover, atleast, part of this year's.

{Ed002's Note - Jolly good.}


27.) 20 Jul 2021 12:13:28
As well as paying off last year’s debt I assume we will also have to pay for Konate in legal tender rather than shiny buttons?

{Ed002's Note - Correct.}


28.) 20 Jul 2021 13:15:21
ed002 did liverpool not use any of the Brewster and lovren money toward last season buys or was that all ready allocated to pay debits. If some sort of payment plan was sorted and we did pay extra for Jota of about £5m in memory serves me right it would be silly to pay that off early and then pay extra for players this season.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool are a loss making club.}


29.) 20 Jul 2021 13:22:46
We must be the poorest, successful team in the league. Didn't sign anyone the season before last, signed players on credit last season, struggling to get funds together to sign more than one player this season - and none of the recent outlays were enormous in the grand scheme of things. Hard to fathom how little money we have, on track to be outspent by Arsenal who have been garbage for seasons now, I just don't get it.


30.) 20 Jul 2021 20:36:01
And for a loss making club we seem to make a profit every year the last few years except for when C.V. kicked in. probably a stupid question but can a club make a profit and yet be loss making at the same time?

{Ed002's Note - This is why it is pointless explaining the finances. You don't understand debt - the transfers from last year have not been paid for. All of the Fixed Assets (including the stadium) have been mortgaged. Try not to make yourself look stupid with such posts.}


31.) 20 Jul 2021 21:11:14
Classy as usual ed.

{Ed002's Note - I cannot be expected to compensate for your ignorance.}


 

 

20 Sep 2020 16:09:31
Hi eds, do you guys know what's happening with Nat Phillips? Have we sold him or are we actively trying to sell him? If he's still at the club, seems a bit strange he wasn't even included on the bench today with both Gomez and Matip injured and no other senior CB in the squad.

zpecialone

{Ed002's Note - Nathaniel Phillips (CB) if Liverpool add a first choice CB that Klopp wants then time may have come for Phillips - Stuttgart would like to keep him on loan and may be open to buying him at the right price. Reading, Millwall, Blackburn Rovers are all open to taking him on loan the the Championship but Liverpool are pushing to sell.}


1.) 20 Sep 2020 20:03:09
He's 23. He's a couple of months older than Gomez. Surely he either stays as 4th choice (if Klopp thinks he's up to it, which after seeing Fabinho have Werner completely in his pocket, seems unlikely) or he leaves the club. There's no sense in him going on another loan.

I actually think he's a decent defender, but there comes a time when we have to be looking at selling him, if not for his own career.


2.) 20 Sep 2020 22:15:27
I like Phillips, but then again I'm not working for Liverpool and I'm not a professional scout, so what do I know.


3.) 20 Sep 2020 22:17:36
After watching Fabs, I can imagine Klopp asking him to play CB with VVD and having Thiago play deeper maybe.


4.) 21 Sep 2020 00:07:06
One of the issues to consider with Philips is that replacing him with an HG defender who is any better than him is unlikely with the funds he would generate by selling him. I think he's nailed on to be the 4th cb (not including fabinho), I'd say its more likely that Matip could go if there's any interest, as he would be easier to replace, as he's not HG and would fetch more money.


 

 

17 Sep 2020 10:03:56
James Pearce has claimed that a fee of 30million euros has been agreed with Bayern for Thiago. If true, I don't think it's a coincidence we've finally moved forwards with the negotiations right after we agreed a fee with Sheffield United for Brewster. Would be over the moon if we (finally) sign Thiago!

zpecialone

1.) 17 Sep 2020 10:27:17
I think €30 mil for a 29 year old with less than a year on his contract is a bit too steep.


2.) 17 Sep 2020 10:46:18
Top lfc journalists, now stating. Deal is £20m paid over the course of the 4 year deal. With £5m add ons linked to premier league and champions league success. Cracking deal! Fantastic player with experience and winning mentality.


3.) 17 Sep 2020 10:46:40
time will tell, let's face it, £30m is a lot of money, but in football, as in many things, a player is worth what somebody will pay.

Time will tell if he proves worth the investment, I for one will ignore the money and enjoy the player dictating the tempo for Liverpool. If it happens that it.

I hope Ginni stays, but wish him all the very best if he goes, he has been a wonderful servant and we were all a little underwhelmed when he signed!


4.) 17 Sep 2020 10:54:11
i've seen other rumours its a 20m fee with 5m of bonuses. Tbh it doesn't matter as its not our cash and I am guessing someone is in the process of leaving to free up the funds and space in the squad.

Yes it's dragged out but the club have got it done and now need to make it official with the anfield lean.


5.) 17 Sep 2020 10:54:54
I heard it was £20m up front and add ons based upon winning trophies etc to take it to £27m.


6.) 17 Sep 2020 10:55:07
apparently he stayed in the Titanic hotel last night, in town to do the deal!


7.) 17 Sep 2020 10:55:30
He’s a 60m baller all day long if not more! We’ve sold solanke and Ibe for 20m a pop u jokin!


8.) 17 Sep 2020 11:03:25
Red Rumour- he's one of the best players in the world. €25m rising to 30 looks good business to me.


9.) 17 Sep 2020 11:03:32
It’s £20m plus £5m add ons, for a world class player in this day and age is not “steep”.


10.) 17 Sep 2020 11:05:08
Ed 2 has confirmed it to be true so it must be true! feel sorry for Brewster if he's making way for it to happen, but hope he proves LFC wrong and goes on to be a success where he ends up.


11.) 17 Sep 2020 11:05:41
keep walking up that hill then mr rumour Thiago is top top class.


12.) 17 Sep 2020 11:05:59
The one thing this phenomenal LFC side has lacked is a world-class ball-playing midfielder.

The current midfield has been exceptional and deserves all the praise it gets, but there are occasions when it's one-dimensional.

Thiago changes everything, plus he works his socks off.


13.) 17 Sep 2020 11:07:59
Red rumor, we're in 2020 mate.


14.) 17 Sep 2020 11:26:10
Fantastic new about Thiago.
World class player, worth every penny .


15.) 17 Sep 2020 11:26:54
Could turn out to be an incredible signing but like Fekir just going to wait till its actually confirmed

Spaceman no disrespect but that is an exact copy and paste of Henry Jacksons tweet earlier unless that's what you were going for haha.


16.) 17 Sep 2020 11:27:06
I don't think age is an issue because his style of play is not explosive so I think he can continue at his level for at least another 3 or 4 years. If he contributes to winning some trophies this season then the fee will seem very fair indeed.


17.) 17 Sep 2020 12:07:47
Welcome to Anfield Thiago Alcantara!


18.) 17 Sep 2020 12:47:21
If we retain the title he’ll have been worth every penny of his transfer fee, and that’s speaking as someone who had severe reservations about signing him.


19.) 17 Sep 2020 13:11:10
Yeah Red Rumor it appears nobody cares what you think but actually it's £20m guaranteed plus the rest in add-ons dependent on him being instrumental in helping us win the Premier League and Champions League. Sounds good to me!

I haven't seen him posing with a pen yet though, so not counting my chicken nuggets. But I'm sure Rodrigo told him how much he enjoyed playing against us on Saturday so shouldn't be a problem getting him to sign on the dotted line. Now hopefully his brother can find a good Premier League club where he'll thrive and be happy. (not West Ham)


20.) 17 Sep 2020 13:49:59
BBC reporting 20 mil plus 5 mil add ons paid over the course of his contract, so not bad all in all. 20 mil is what we paid for Lallana and JDR pointed out, sold Solanke for! Really happy with this, but I think we need to get rid of a MF, maybe not though, always good at have depth.


21.) 17 Sep 2020 14:08:49
He's top 3 midfielders on the planet, and ensures we have truly world class in each area of our team now.


22.) 17 Sep 2020 14:17:03
Bargain! How can some people be questioning the price?

James Tawkowski has had a 31 million bid turned down.

In today's market that's bang average fee for a world class player. Regardless of contract situation.


23.) 17 Sep 2020 14:25:22
adds some depth, quality and a plan b if we need to change thigns. Now all we need is to win the premier league, champ leauge, world cup super cup and FA cup to keep the mindless fans happy.


24.) 17 Sep 2020 14:46:02
Pretty sure he's going to be a big part of Plan A once he gets integrated into the team.
With his passing added to our fullbacks creativity we are going to tear a few teams apart.


25.) 17 Sep 2020 14:50:29
Playing devils advocate here, Thiago is a great signing, world class player. However, he is adding depth to an already over crowded midfield, in a team already worryingly close to the home grown quota.

I trust Edwards and Klopp whole heartedly but worry that a more substantial ready made back up for the front three could shoot us in the foot. Will we be as lucky this year with injuries? nobody can tell the future but we are riding our luck in that area slightly.


26.) 17 Sep 2020 14:53:06
Bobbya_Teeth, that really does put it in context. In fact it seems like daylight robbery.


27.) 17 Sep 2020 15:35:30
@Corbra666, @Shanks and @Salah given Thiago's age, length of contract, being able to speak to foreign clubs in January and other clubs baulking at Bayern Munich valuation I would have thought we'd be in a strong bargaining position. Then again if Klopp tapped him up Bayern may have dug their heels in.

I suppose €20 mil plus add ons is not bad if he lives up to his billing. As someone posted "it's not my money".


28.) 17 Sep 2020 16:09:35
Nah, that 20 Million price plus add ons (and agent fees to be discovered later 😉) seems just about right for the C.V. era. In normal times 40 Million and more, would easily be a serious asking price. Skill, experience and loads of titles to back it all up. Where are you going to find that today? Yes he's 29 but he's not exactly on crutches, just yet.


29.) 17 Sep 2020 17:23:44
Caution lads and lasses - nothing has been concluded yet. From what I have read talks are not at an advanced stage yet. It would be a great bit of business if it comes off though. Fingers crossed.


 

 

 

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23 May 2022 12:16:23
So now that the league season is over, who would be in your team of the year? I've gone with a 4-3-3 because that's what the top two teams played for the majority of the season.

GK - Alisson. I don't think there were any truly outstanding candidates this season. Alisson was huge for us though, coming up with big one-on-one saves time and time again to keep us in the title race.

RB - TAA. Is there a better fullback, let alone rightback, in the world right now?

CB - VVD. Might not be back to his very best, but a VVD at 85% is still head and shoulders above anyone else.

CB - Marc Guehi. Personally thought it was very risky to spend so much on a defender without any top flight experience. One excellent season after, it looks like a mistake by Chelsea to sell him, especially with so many CBs leaving.

LB - Joao Cancelo. Arguably City's best player this season, which is saying something.

DM - Declan Rice. Very good player who had another very good season. You can see why West Ham are desperate to keep him, and why the top teams are desperate to sign him.

CM - KDB. If I could take only one player from City to add to the Liverpool squad, it has to be him. Brilliant player producing brilliant moments in another brilliant season.

CM - Bernardo Silva. He really stepped up this season. I thought about putting in the likes of Conor Gallagher in this final CM spot, but City simply wouldn't have won the title without Silva's contribution so he gets the nod.

RW - Salah. Suffered a dip after AFCON, but he was arguably the best player in the world for the first half of the season. I also thought about Saka, Bowen and Raphinha for half a second, but Mo was on top of both goals and assists tables despite missing an entire month of league football, so impossible to leave him out.

LW - Son Heung-Min. Critical to Spurs's CL qualification and ended up equal on goals with Salah.

ST - Sadio Mane. He gets in despite playing half the season out wide. This was in part down to how good he was through the centre and in part down to how dreadful the other striking options were.

zpecialone

1.) 23 May 2022 12:48:28
No Thiago?


2.) 23 May 2022 12:36:07
Alisson

Trent
Matip
Virgil
Cancelo

Rodri
De Bruyne
Silva

Salah
Kane
Son.


3.) 23 May 2022 12:54:57
The whole Liverpool team + our subs.


4.) 23 May 2022 13:05:50
That's a very good side, OP.
One change would be Kane for Mane, for me.


5.) 23 May 2022 13:25:11
Andy robertson is the best left backs in the world. He's the clear left back slot. Cancelo is right up there but robertson is definitely overlooked by even some liverpool fans.


6.) 23 May 2022 23:13:09
Cancelo is dreadful defensively. Robbo all day over him.


 

 

20 Dec 2021 03:36:18
Well Robbo, you learned a lesson last night. The next time you want to clatter someone, you need to make sure to go flying into their standing leg with your studs up instead. Also, don't forget to swear on your daughter's life afterwards you touched the ball or nobody will believe you, not even VAR.

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1.) 20 Dec 2021 07:51:15
That is outright dark OP but idea did make for a laugh though😂😂🤣.


2.) 20 Dec 2021 08:17:51
Oh Robbo, and don’t forget to lie thru your teeth in the post match interview that your victim didn’t see anything wrong with you trying send him to the hospital after nearly breaking your ankle. Cheers, mate.


3.) 20 Dec 2021 10:01:15
VAR did it’s job yesterday they reviewed the Kane tackle to it revealed he was the England captain. So it was spot on that no action was to be taken - good use of VAR that was.


4.) 20 Dec 2021 11:18:49
Brilliant, Andyjh04. I forgot what VAR was originally there to do during a Spurs game. For other games, VAR's functions change, of course.


 

 

04 Nov 2021 06:51:34
The refs all across Europe (but especially ours) were atrocious last night. Was watching the highlights of the other games and there were some shocking, shocking decisions. Feel like something fundamental or institutional needs to change.

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{Ed025's Note - they see themselves as celebrities zpecialone, its getting worse mate..


1.) 04 Nov 2021 09:42:18
But the ref's in the Euro's got nothing but praise. They are under orders to let the game flow, and not stop for silly fouls.


2.) 04 Nov 2021 10:52:45
Spot on, OP and Ed25. I have no idea how Michael Oliver (the best ref in the PL, eye roll) sent Hummels off in the Ajax/ Dortmund game when he was the one who got stepped on by the Ajax player and VAR did not even have him check it.


 

 

28 Aug 2021 05:42:10
Lord Almighty. The constant negativity, the meltdown over other club's transfers, talk of how we'll finish fifth, FSG out brigades, talk of Coutinho and Sterling at Liverpool! Are we sure it's 2021? Are we sure we've got the likes of Salah, VVD and Alisson and not Benteke, Clyne and Mignolet? Are we sure we've won the Champions League and Premier League recently?

Or have I just woken up from the best dream I've ever had only to find Rodgers smiling down at me again?

zpecialone

1.) 28 Aug 2021 06:00:35
Wait until Balotelli, Borini and Lambert are signed to start against Chelsea this weekend….


2.) 28 Aug 2021 06:56:49
Unfortunately people are buying into the media circus of the transfer window mate. They think because someone else signed a big name that we need to do the same. Whatever happened to supporting the team?

Allot also seem to forget that the year we won the title we signed no1 and this year we've signed a top class center back and got our other 3 center backs back and fit. I think that summer it was the same moaning and groaning so let them cry all they want, come November they will all be saying how much of a master stroke it was once again and will be praising the club for not wasting money.


3.) 28 Aug 2021 07:47:32
Not Rodgers mate! it's Hodgson!


4.) 28 Aug 2021 08:00:07
Many are trolls making stuff up to get a rise including rival supporters. I recommend not rising to them and focus on enjoying our season which I believe will be a fun battle and hopefully successful one.


5.) 28 Aug 2021 08:19:49
What are you talking about. No one has said we will finish fifth, and maybe one person is calling FSG out. Posters are asking for one decent transfer before the window shuts. No point making up a story that doesn’t exist.

{Ed001's Note - loads have called FSG out, we have had to delete many posts throwing abuse at them from multiple posters.}


6.) 28 Aug 2021 08:20:43
To be honest I don't think too many are trolls, which is a bit sad really. The season has started 6 points and a big game today. Its all good, enjoy it.


7.) 28 Aug 2021 08:36:36
People get sucked into the transfer circus and don’t seem to have the capacity to objectively judge the position of a club. For me, United are never going to win the big trophies under Solskjaer anyway as his limited management abilities are practically a points cap. I don’t see what he gives United that they don’t already have. Greenwood and Cavani are top players. Their problem is not in attack, but in midfield and defence. Whether you blame it on Solskjaer’s inability to improve his players or lack of backing those areas United are not good enough in too many areas to win the league in my opinion.

If people just used their brains they would see this transfer is a huge win for us. United’s vanity and insistence that City can’t have him has given us a huge leg up in our quest to reclaim the league. City will likely have to play the whole season with false nine’s and if they do it could be a disaster. Also just having United back in the league will be pretty cool and add to the drama of it all lol.

{Ed025's Note - pint of bitter for AW please bar tender.. :)


8.) 28 Aug 2021 08:43:30
Ok fair enough Ed, I only see the posts on the site. I can’t comment on the rubbish you have to delete but all Ed’s say the same. Enjoy the Match everybody.

I am in Alcudia anyone know a good bar to watch the match?


9.) 28 Aug 2021 08:47:23
Have we conceded a goal yet no, have we played badly at any point no, has the roof caved in no, are all the birds migrating yet no, so it's safe to say there's nothing to worry about, the season has just started be excited because the tension might kill you, you miserable people, I for one would love to see us bring in a key player or two but the fact is they probably wouldn't get anywhere near the boot room, so if you like a lot of chocolate on your biscuit join our club or take up more flying.

{Ed025's Note - i like that mate..


10.) 28 Aug 2021 09:20:25
Thought we were iffy against Norwich until Fabinho came on, but equally, I thought we played well against Burnley and handled their rough stuff well, I’d even go as far as saying that Keita was quietly effective against Burnley. Which is clearly good news that it appears to be dawning on him that he’s drinking in the last chance saloon.

Although it would be nice to bring in Raul/ Bissouma as that would make us very hard to beat, but at least we haven’t wasted money on Traore / Ramsey / Sanches / Coutinho / Sterling and I’d far that we kept any money we do have for when we are in a better position to buy a player who we do absolutely need, when we need to.


11.) 28 Aug 2021 10:18:14
Last year was (hopefully) an anomaly where we had so many injuries and players playing out of position that we got knocked out of shape entirely. Despite that, and being seventh towards the end of the season we battled back with title winning form and the league’s most inexperienced defensive partnership to finish third. Pretty darn respectable considering our situation.

Over the summer we have gained back our entire backline, signed a beast of a defender and promoted a future superstar into the midst. Aside from losing Wijnaldum, this is still the same squad that got to two champions league finals, winning one and smashed the premier league just two years ago. They are nearly all the right side of thirty and in their prime.

People say you need to keep signing players to keep the squad fresh and keep others on their toes, well I think the adversity of last season will have done that for us. Our squad is as good as any in the league, or even Europe so we don’t need to sign overpriced Englishmen or past their prime superstars to stay relevant or even resigning Belgian Heskeys for exorbitant prices. Yes, a signing or two would be grand, but then who says people like Keita and the ox won’t have a season like we know they all can?

Positivity people. Money saved this year means more to spend the next.


 

 

24 Aug 2021 14:28:35
Robbo has just signed a new long term contract until 2026!

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21 Jun 2022 14:22:09
Barella would be the perfect signing, but it's difficult to see where we'd get another 80m after already spending so much on Nunez.

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20 Jun 2022 14:00:01
Brilliant, absolutely love Joe. This is shaping up to be a real nice summer.

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10 Jun 2022 12:22:47
Out of the possible Salah replacements, I'd pick Gnabry over Asensio all day every day.

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10 Jun 2022 08:30:39
Nunez to replace Mane, Hwang to replace Origi, Carvalho to replace Minamino, Ramsay to replace Neco Williams?

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07 Jun 2022 17:50:08
Wasn't he not particularly great in a more advanced position, and thus Bielsa moved him deeper? Kinda curious as to what role he'd play in our squad if we signed him.

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24 Jun 2022 12:59:06
Thank god. Clearly a talented player but the guy's got more injuries and attitude problems than goals.

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23 Jun 2022 15:45:28
OP definitely meant Federico Chiesa, his dad Enrico was a pretty big name in Italian football in the 90s. But as to Federico, Juve had him on a loan with an obligation to buy if I remember correctly, and then he did his ACL and was out for the entire season.

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21 Jun 2022 21:34:56
I believe Emlyn Hughes and Tommy Smith hated each other. Also Suarez and Sturridge weren't exactly the best of mates off the pitch, but there was no real animosity between them either.

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17 Jun 2022 15:32:08
A 30yo player who's showed signs of decline, with one year left on his contract and no intention of renewing, I don't see what's so funny about extracting a decent fee for that.

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12 Jun 2022 15:29:02
1. Puskas
2. Maradona
3. Cruyff.

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