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26 May 2022 21:17:44
An interesting stat for Saturday's Final is that LFC and RM have both been runners up in this Competition three times, so hopefully RM will leapfrog us for that accolade. RM losses in European Cup Finals were in 1962,1964 and of course 1981.

It is also number seven for both teams in a way, because even though RM have won it 13 times, since the year 2000 they have recorded six successes, and interestingly they are yet to lose a European Cup Final this Century, so let's hope Saturday is fully accomplished for RM.

On a footnote seen Roy Evans and Alan Kennedy this morning circa 10. a. m. going towards Lime Station Street with trolley suitcases.

26 May 2022 22:00:12
The trolley suitcases are probably hiding Michael Owen and 'lil Sammy Lee, trying to skip the airfares, the scallies!

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26 May 2022 23:06:28
The trolley suitcases will be overweight with those two in.
It's nice to see some balance with Owen and Lee though. A Liverpool legend and a Real Madrid legend.

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26 May 2022 18:39:37
Anyone know if Thiago was in team training today?

26 May 2022 20:34:40
Not heard anything, but fingers crossed.

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26 May 2022 21:38:10
Anyone reckon if no Thiago we play 3-4-3.

Ali

Matip, VVD, Konate (knows Benzema from French National Team)

TAA, Hendo, Fabs, Robbo

Salah, Mane, Diaz.

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26 May 2022 22:15:39
Change the formation that has seen us lose 3 games all season and almost win the quadruple? Genius.

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26 May 2022 22:29:31
Why change to a formation that we’ve not played this season? It’ll be disruptive for the players.

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26 May 2022 22:12:38
Not a chance 007. I don't think a CL final is the time to experiment when we have played the same system and been successful all season, even when Thiago wasn't available.

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26 May 2022 22:53:30
We won't play three at the back.

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26 May 2022 23:14:19
No 007, we're not going to change to a new formation that we've never used for the biggest game of the season. Klopp is not Guardiola.

In the very, very unlikely event that we don't line up 433, it'll be 4231 with Bobby in the no. 10 role behind Salah with Mane and Diaz on the wings. And I reckon the chances of that are less than 10%.

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26 May 2022 23:23:21
I’d like to see us try something new for the CL final. Probably also a good opportunity to give some of the squad players some minutes and a few of the youngsters a debut.

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26 May 2022 23:59:18
It could be a chance to give Karius some minutes.
I think he'll be wise to throwing the ball at Benzema and into our next now. And these days, Bale needs a caddy more than assists.

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{Ed0666's Note - I absolutely love the fact we’re playing Madrid in the Final. I’ve been advocating for this final all along and I just feel the script is written for Salah’s redemption and at the referees whistle for Mo to unleash unadulterated hell.

27 May 2022 00:50:30
Lets hope you're right ed66 mate 🤞.

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{Ed0666's Note - vengeance is one of those things that can be buried but not totally dead. We owe these guys for wearing those Karius T shirts and those jokes their left winger made about our hapless keeper after the 2018 final. I’m 100% echo Salah when he says that this is about revenge because it totally is for me. Klopp can dress it up how he wants this is payback and I truly hope Mo gets the winner.

27 May 2022 04:07:26
Bollocks to the winner i want a Mo hat trick. In the first 20 minutes. We're waiting for Mo to hit form and he's had a bit of a rest. He's raring to go. They all are. Mo esp.

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26 May 2022 18:19:40
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new podcast entitled, Ed1 on Youtube Live Now

26 May 2022 07:41:26
Ed0666 I see people Comparing Jota to Origi's goal record what is very silly I think we should of sold Origi after the champions league final win when his value was at its peak. Jota's value is at it's peak now and should be sold his been here 2 seasons now and his build up play has not improved at all. Origi is a lot better footballer his biggest weakness is he is to nice played out of position playing mainly left wing and and he is a striker and most of his goals have come when Origi has played when he comes on as a striker. Now Jota has been moved out wide his goals have dried up. After 60 minutes of the spurs game I was screaming at the tv to get Origi on because they are the games he has come on and won us games I think this season when played I think Origi's form has been as good as it was before the horror tackle on him by that Everton defender.

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{Ed0666's Note - I agree with you 100% mate. My sentiments entirely

26 May 2022 14:31:12
I find it interesting that people value build up play more than goals being scored. I thought goals won games, not build up play?

Sure, you could argue that his losing the ball in this build up play occasionally led to goals (our defensive record suggests otherwise) . Do I get frustrated when he loses the ball in those situations? Sure. But I forgive him when he bags a difficult header a few minutes later.

And just for the record, Bobby has had spells where his buildup play is atrocious (like the wolves game) . But he’s still Bobby.

I’m sure many of you think we actually “missed out” on Mbappe too. The replacement that could have been I suppose…

The bottom line is Jota is a vital member of this team, works hard, and scores goals. Find something else to complain about.

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26 May 2022 15:12:04
Completely agree re. Origi. When he scored those goals in the semi final against Barcelona and then the final against Tottenham I really thought we'd sell him that summer, as he was never going to be higher in value than he was then, and he also wasn't likely to get much of a look in when the main three strikers were fit. On the back of those very high profile performances and with the market as it was then, I reckon we could have got £25m+.

Don't see it comparable at all with Jota's situation though. Sure, maybe his value is at it's peak - who knows, but in Origi you're talking about a player who never played regularly and hardly ever started, unless we had injuries. So taking the opportunity to sell a player like that whose value had peaked because of a few high profile recent performances would have been quite smart. Jota on the other hand is clearly a key part of our squad and very much in Klopp's plans. He starts regularly and scores a lot of goals. Completely different to the situation with Origi back then.

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26 May 2022 15:16:01
Too many sentimental people around!
Ye can’t him and him he won the league with us etc!
Be ruthless keep lads on their toes!

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26 May 2022 15:27:32
Origi has 41 goals in 6 seasons. Jota has 34 goals in 2 seasons.

There is no comparison.

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26 May 2022 16:15:39
This debate is ridiculous. Jota has been great since his arrival. Goals speak 4 themselves.

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26 May 2022 16:16:27
Origis ‘peak’ value would have been what? I wouldn’t assume much seems the lads good for morale and somehow makes a difference when he comes on, we made the right decision keeping him. A lot of the people slating jota are the same as the ones who slated mane earlier on the season, jota is a good option to have especially for a team who plays as many games as we tend to. plus this isn’t fifa can’t just say ‘jota £50 million please’ and spend it elsewhere.

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26 May 2022 16:21:01
I love to see that stats for chances taken compared to chances missed for both players, factoring in the amount of game time for both.
I don’t think it’s a fair comparison MK considering the amount of game time Jota has had compared to Origi. Especially considering the level and quality of other players in the team now.
I do think it was only sensible to let Origi move on but I’d say the same for Jota. Feel he’s extremely limited.

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26 May 2022 17:20:05
Apart from his goals Jota has been mostly poor and doesn’t quite fit in the team properly. He will be great in a team that’s more suited to him and will fetch a decent price if we fancied cashing in now before he declines. I would absolutely sell if someone wanted to offer good money for him.

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26 May 2022 17:25:36
Klopp-alypse, of course it's a fair comparison. The variables are irrelevant. If Origi played in worse teams then you could argue he should've played more minutes than he did. If he was used more as a squad player he's probably had a lot of minutes against lesser opposition in the cups whilst Jota has been bagging mostly in the Premier League and Champions League.

There's too many variables to hyper analyse this debate. Simple fact is that Jota scores more goals for us and therefore he is a better striker. That's not really up for debate. Maybe Origi would have more goals if "xyz" had gone in his favour. If my aunt had balls she's be uncle.

I love Origi. He's a cult hero and he'll never be forgotten. If he was fit i'd probably back him to score on Saturday off the bench because he has that knack. But if he was half as good as Jota is then he would've averaged more than 7 goals a season. Jota's averaging 17 a season. There are levels to this game and Origi has never forced his way into this team as a key player even in the era when we had Sturridge, Borini, Lambert and Balotelli up front!

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26 May 2022 17:53:36
We wanted quality players coming in to challenge the established forward line! we buy 2 such players, we've a quality front 5 which is what we've always wanted and what's the 1st reaction? SELL, SELL, SELL!

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26 May 2022 18:21:33
Klopp is extremely loyal to his squad, his players don’t get sold unless they want to go by and large or unless their contracts are up.
That’s part of the reason for the solidarity and unity in the set up.
Jota did the business for Klopp during the Afcon and I don’t see any way whatsoever that he’ll be sold.

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{Ed0666's Note - that doesent mean he shouldn’t be tho

26 May 2022 18:54:20
We must be the only fan base in world football that wants to sell all of our goalscoring forwards for either being too old at 30 or their values at their peak.

If it was up to some our front 3 next season would be Origi, Mino and Bobby. Thank god we don’t make the decisions and Klopp does.

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{Ed0666's Note - some of us also like our forwards to be industrious, link play, know how to pass to a team mate as well as score goals

26 May 2022 19:11:48
Hardest part of game is scoring goals. End of. If you prefer non goal scoring strikers then I can’t help you.

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26 May 2022 19:12:33
Ed0666 someone needs to let Klopp know then mate as he keeps picking them.

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{Ed0666's Note - klopp can fu*k off as well then 😝

26 May 2022 19:31:49
Ed66 mate I love u but u sound like you know more then Klopp mate need to calm down and Focus on the biggest game on Saturday😝😂😂.

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26 May 2022 20:55:21
Ed0666 not going to lie that made me actually laugh out loud 🤣.

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{Ed0666's Note - 😂😂😂😂

26 May 2022 21:53:05
At the end of the day Origi would have played more if he’d been a better player, as would David Fairclough back in the day.

Jora has a natural instinct for getting in position to score goals - he is by far our most natural goal scorer. Unfortunately his overall technique isn’t a real ‘fit’ for the way JK wants us to play, so whilst he is here there will always be a debate about his worth to the team. In my opinion he is an ideal go to’ man for the last 30 minutes if we need a goal or two and he is a good back-up if we need a stand in for an injury to our starting number 9.

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26 May 2022 21:49:52
Haven’t u heard? Ed666 is LFC manager in waiting 🥰🥰.

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{Ed0666's Note - they spelt my name incorrectly on the contract

26 May 2022 21:53:23
Is there any interest in jota and what would his value be seems were on the subject.

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{Ed0666's Note - don’t get my hopes up

26 May 2022 22:58:26
If we kept Origi and sold Jota, Origi still wouldn't play very much and we'd probably buy a replacement for Jota.
I reckon Origi wants to play. Let him go and play regularly.

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26 May 2022 23:35:09
54 appearances Jota has made this season. Not bad for a player that is crap.

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26 May 2022 12:11:37
Anyone here travelling to Paris then?
Fan Zone is on if you don’t have a ticket.

Barcelona, Real Madrid, who the f@ck you tryna kid?!

26 May 2022 12:36:53
Seriously thinking about it. Champagne bar at kings cross international, then Eurostar to Paris. Lovely stuff.

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26 May 2022 13:14:05
Coach Friday afternoon, morning I'll be seeing the sights.

Fanzone in afternoon then try and find a pub lop, heading home 3am Sunday 👀.

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26 May 2022 13:29:00
Flying from Ireland early Saturday morning. Still no confirmation on showing match at fan zone is only concern.

Would it be a licensing issue or what that would cause them not to? Looking at booking a bar today just in case as a lot got caught out in Madrid with similar.

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{Ed002's Note - The delay in announcing it will be a fear that huge numbers of additional fans would show up. In terms of a bar, you might want to try Le Balrock, I am not sure if it is the larget sports bar in Paris but it shows games inside and outside.}

26 May 2022 12:56:30
Just about to start loading up the car. Stockport, Halewood, Folkestone tonight and tunnel in the morning. Can't f****g wait. All three of my lads dragged up in a Manchester postcode and travelling with me.

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26 May 2022 14:15:34
Appreciate the comment Ed002. Do you have sixth sense on whether they will be showing match at fanzone?

Funny you mention Balrock I was researching and liked look of the place. I made a reservation but will need ticket for entry which they sent link for. Don't want to buy ticket for there if it will be shown at fanzone is my only dilemma now!

Thanks again though.

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{Ed002's Note - Not really. I suspect they won't announce it until tomorrow.}

26 May 2022 14:21:53
Baldock full, infact anywhere you can book is full.

Most Pubs are doing first come basis like bombardier, harp etc. I've heard it's on standard TV in France so presumably all bars/ cafes will be showing it.

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26 May 2022 14:26:24
Fly tomorrow night, then will be heading straight into Paris Saturday morning.

And the closure for the fan zone is until after the game finishes. But as Ed has said, they will keep it hush hush until last minute.

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26 May 2022 14:42:40
Appreciate it Ed.

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26 May 2022 14:50:40
I know someone who is going and his ticket has "obstructed view" printed on it. The French National Stadium having obstructed views is diabolical.

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26 May 2022 14:58:10
Istanbul2005, It's not Halewood it's "HOLLYWOOD", because we are all "film" stars in Halewood. Best of Luck for ye journey and don't forget ye need an extra space in the Car for "ol big ears" when ye bring him rightfully back home to his favourite abode, the LFC Trophy Cabinet.

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26 May 2022 16:23:58
I wish! concert square in Liverpool for me.

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26 May 2022 16:38:16
Just been reading about the £1 coach. Fantastic!
I thought about going into Liverpool but the lad gave me the sad eyes when I mentioned it so I'm watching it at home with him.
I hope we lose now, hahaha.

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26 May 2022 19:15:26
Good luck to all who's going. hope you have a great time and really hope the fan zone is showing the match for you. If I hadn't just booked and paid for a family holiday for 8 people and on top of that paid 3 grand for sons debts he's ran up. Then 2 days later for him to send me a whattsapp saying "jurgen tells reds fan to get to paris" and asking are we going. I would of loved too. We better make it again next year.

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26 May 2022 09:52:37
For me this has been a truly outstanding season, regardless of whether we beat Real on Saturday night.

It was great to win the League Cup again after our domination in the 80s and I was surprised how elated I was by the FA Cup win - just a marvellous day for me.

I never expected much from the Prem final day, and although it was certainly there for us, things ended up how I'd imagined.

The real thing I want from Saturday night is to show the watching world the true Liverpool 2021-22. I'm just hoping all our best players are available, play well and show how electric this team can be.

I should be including everyone, but if Allison, Virgil, Trent, Robbo, Thiago, Fabs, Diaz, Mane, Salah are all available and bang up for it (plus all the others) then I'll be a happy man. And god help Real Madrid if that's the case.

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26 May 2022 10:27:41
I think you're spot on PR - our only wish is that we show up with our best players on the day and give it a good go.

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26 May 2022 10:29:13
I agree Pompey and if you take away all context, then winning both domestic cups in the same season is a great achievement and represents success for sure.

However, in the context of having what most of us consider to be one of the best teams/ squads/ managers we've ever had, having gone to the final day of the league season still in the hunt and having made the European Cup final, I'll be honest and say that I think I will feel quite a strong sense of disappointment if, having missed the league, we also lose the final on Saturday. I want one of the big two trophies this year.

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26 May 2022 10:29:45
I agree, Pompey.
As I've said all season, let us go out and do what we can do. If it's not enough, so be it.
They've done it for most of the season though and it's been a privilege to watch.

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26 May 2022 10:39:13
Completely agree mate.

I predicted before the season started that City would win the league and we'd win number 7! This is our competition and one day we'll knock Real Madrid off their perch. Starting on Saturday night 🤞🏻.

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26 May 2022 19:19:07
Need to turn up and show them who we are. High tempo, high pressure and belief. If we do that and lose then fair enough. BUT WE WONT LOSE.

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26 May 2022 21:57:47
Spot on, OP. We have had an amazing season overall with trophies to boot. Don’t listen to the bitter rival fans and pundits who come up with the usual “You didn’t win the Quad so nobody cares”. If only they knew how big of a compliment that statement actually is. As for tmrw, the only thing I want is for us to leave it all out there on the pitch and most of all, NO REGRETS. Now let’s go get no. 7.

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26 May 2022 09:26:57
So here I am again with another feeling of dejavu. WTF. why does this always seem to happen to us, or is it because I don't really pay too much attention to the other clubs?

I'm referring to the fact that we are on the eve of final, and the build up AGAIN is all about our best players leaving or staying?

Is it just me or is this actually a recurring theme?

26 May 2022 09:39:24
I don't feel the build up is about that at all apart from maybe on this forum. For me, this doesn't feel like years gone by in that the Mane and Salah situations really aren't that concerning for me. I genuinely think Klopp has done such an incredible job, I am at ease knowing that whatever happens, the club will be fine, whereas in previous years, losing one of our star players you just knew it would set us back massively. Not so much these days.

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26 May 2022 09:41:23
Salah said he's staying and we always knew that Diaz was Mane long term replacement, chill your beans.

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26 May 2022 10:31:00
Klopp was pretty clear about it. There's no point talking about contracts whilst we have been playing a game every 3 days since January. I get the feeling that Sadio and Mo aren't worried about it right now either. The rest is just noise prior to the biggest fixture in world football.

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26 May 2022 10:36:37
Players will always stay and leave.
It's probably having more impact on here than it is in the camp.
Let's hope our good players turn up on Saturday and try not to worry about next season and the season after.

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26 May 2022 10:49:08
It's because the final is at the end of the season, which coincides with the transfer window opening.
Whether we're in a final or not there is always speculation at the end of the season that our best players are leaving. Salah has been leaving for Real Madrid every summer since he signed according to some on here.
All harmless speculation and quite funny to read.
Even funnier when some try to convince themselves that they really are ITKs only for it to blow up in their faces.

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26 May 2022 11:08:42
The season has finished and it’s transfer window media frenzy time.

It’s brilliant fun - millions and millions of words that are about 90% I’ll/ mi-informed and that are generally mis-interpreted. My favourite are the discussions about finance and the comprehensive armchair coaches critiques of players most of whom the coach has never seen play live.

“It’s the most wonderful time of the year” as the song would have it.

Pull up a chair, pour yourself a drink and enjoy the show.

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26 May 2022 12:14:29
There will always be a beloved player leaving I learnt a long time ago it is nothing to stress worry or even be upset about as they are quickly forgotten and someone always steps up and takes there place. The only player I can ever think who would have been irreplaceable was Stevie G or maybe at the moment the back bone of our current team VVD and Allison. I fear no one else leaving as it is not the player but the club that creates the magic it cannot be found anywhere else no matter how hard you try. Anyone can succeed at Liverpool just give your all and you will be lifted to heights you probably never even imagined.

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26 May 2022 12:18:23
Salah is a plonker. On the one hand he says i'm not talking about the contract as that's selfish and we need to concentrate on the team and the game and on his other hand he goes ' I'm definitely staying next year. ' I don't care about the semantics, the guy is a liability in front of the cameras and on social media and is a complete attention seeker. Great player mind and hopefully scores in champions league along with Jota.

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26 May 2022 16:41:39
His contract runs to next year.
Get off his back, WM.

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26 May 2022 22:01:17
WarMachine, what are you blabbing about? He was asked a question and he answered it saying he wasn’t going to talk about contracts sndctgzt regardless, he was staying for next season. What were you expecting him to say? Get off his back, bro.

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