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19 Apr 2021 22:33:05
I absolutely love klopp and the man could run for prime minister he'd get my vote. Talks utter sense.

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19 Apr 2021 21:17:32
Evening Ed001

Can I ask if I'm your opinion this ESL happens or not? Seems there is a lot stacked against it as has been explained.

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{Ed001's Note - the fear is that Utd and Liverpool seem intent on forcing it to happen and that the three Spanish clubs will stay onboard as their fans are glory hunters who are not interested in genuine competition. Unlike the rest, their fans are likely to back the idea. It could end up in a situation where there is no choice but to go ahead, unless they all back out quickly in the next couple of days.

I am hopeful they will be forced to back down, but it is only a matter of time before it does happen imo.}

19 Apr 2021 21:42:24
Ed1 on the point about an inevitable break. What is the preferred way forward that would leave everyone happy? Is it basically a CL format that isn't run by UEFA?

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{Ed001's Note - the rich clubs just want a closed shop with no relegation issues to affect income.}

19 Apr 2021 21:47:47
Surely the cost of loosing players not being able to sign other good players and loosing klopp would be enuf to halt this madness!

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19 Apr 2021 22:02:01
The crack I heard Ed was that it is really Juve, Real and Barcelona who are the chief proponents of the idea?
All 3 clubs in serious financial difficulties of course.

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{Ed001's Note - no, it is Liverpool and Man Utd that are pushing things and have already begun legal action to ensure they can't be blocked from moving to it. Those three and Atleti are very keen, but sadly it is us and United that are pushing it forward right now.}

19 Apr 2021 22:06:02
Ed1, have any of the English sides showed signs of backing out? It looks like things have gone too far and it will get pushed through but that’s me looking from the outside in.

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{Ed001's Note - Chelsea, Spurs and Man City are all unhappy with the legal action being taken. They look the likeliest to back out.}

19 Apr 2021 22:15:34
All that matters to them is lining the pockets of a few, doesn't matter how they get there.

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19 Apr 2021 22:21:05
Ed1. Bleeding heck. So us, Man United and Arsenal are willing to die on this cross even if sanctions like being kicked out of the Premier League are enforced?

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{Ed001's Note - I am not sure about Arsenal, but us and United have gone in all guns blazing. Unfortunately the American culture is often litigate first, then negotiate afterwards and that is what they have done. It is a total misjudgement as it is just forcing a fight when it wasn't needed to become a fight. Now if, as I hope they do, they back down, it is going to leave a much nastier taste in the mouth. There was just no need for it anyway, they jumped in two-footed before seeing what the reaction would be like. It is idiocy by people blinded by greed and not taking time to step back and see the big picture before acting. They are so used to getting their own way, they have forgotten to consider whether they should do or not.}

19 Apr 2021 22:36:40
Luckily the 2 clubs (us and United) that are pushing the hardest are the 2 with arguably the most passionate fans.
Hopefully we can get together as groups of fans and organise some action against them.

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19 Apr 2021 22:40:04
Ed1, if as you say the eventual and inevitable breakaway will be an exclusive competition anyways, then what is going to be different about other alternative options? Ed2 says that there is an elite group of clubs still discussing this and that group includes clubs who are of this 12 and others who are not. I'm trying to imagine what alternative version of a breakaway league is going to be announced that will appease everyone.

This ESL appears to me to be a PR disaster, which has been par for the course for FSG to be fair. But, given we know there are talks ongoing and that inevitable change is coming, it feels to me that this is more about aesthetics than real virtue.

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{Ed001's Note - it won't appease everyone, but what happens is that people become apathetic if you keep pushing something on them. The first time they react angrily but gradually you wear down resistance if you just keep trying every so often and that is what I believe will happen.}

19 Apr 2021 21:13:23
Carragher and Neville on sky tonight calling for all fans, players, managers to stand together and defeat the super league proposal.
I whole heartedly agree!
Question, if UEFA ban any players in the 12 from playing in this summers Euro's will other players stand together with them, and boycott the tournament?
Lets not forget, this IS NOT the player doing, so it will be interesting to see if they get the solidarity from their fellow professionals.
I doubt they will!

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19 Apr 2021 22:42:23
They should have done this to protest against UEFA and FIFAs money grabbing changes and expansions.

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19 Apr 2021 21:10:56
Don't know how true this is but Chelsea and Man City, who were never the biggest fans of the idea but were worried by the other teams involved getting that much financial backing and missing out, are now retracting interest after seeing such a venomous backlash and they feel they can persuade Spurs to as well. Its interesting that this will leave clubs with American owners as the ones still pushing it . However if three of the six withdraw, with the three in Italy seemingly heading in that direction as well it will kill plans for now at least .

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{Ed0666's Note - if true FSG’s position will be intenible

19 Apr 2021 21:56:35
Yeah Citeh have had a huge backlash from the fans. Got 3 nasty messages on Twitter and everything (2 from Harry)

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19 Apr 2021 20:22:52
I'm not sure if many people understand the damage the ESL does to the prep yet, so a couple of scenarios.

The Elite 6 finish top 6 in Prem, meaning suddenly teams are satisfied finishing just 7th-11th for those 4 champs league spots.

An Elite team is comfortably ahead in 1st by Christmas, other 5 elite teams have no incentive for finishing top 4 and so give up for rest of the season and focus on other competitions.

The ESL isn't just an alternative to the champs league and impacts the midweek games we watch, it fundamentally changes the way we watch the Prem every weekend for every single team.

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19 Apr 2021 20:36:46
It is a closed shop and anti competition.

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19 Apr 2021 20:49:35
The eds have been warning of this day for a few years now. I so hope the club changes it’s stance. If this super duper league happens, I will most likely stop following football. So much for the spirit of shankly and you’ll never walk alone, tragic day for football.

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{Ed0666's Note - I can seriously reccomend taking up squash to fill the void soccer will leave in youre life.

19 Apr 2021 22:04:08
Actually Vermiculo, a court might see that differently. If UEFA were challenged in court for stopping teams entering into another competition, that might be seen as anti competition, see the Judgement in the International Skating Union case, where the court found against them for penalising skaters for taking part in other skating competitions. All they can do is enforce a pre-authorisation of the rules of the competition to ensure it meets the general rules of the game, not prevent athletes (and therefore teams) participating. This could become very lucrative for the lawyers.

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19 Apr 2021 22:18:33
Ice skating? Wha . I . hang on. never mind.

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19 Apr 2021 22:44:28
This is assuming that these 6 teams don't get booted pit of the Prem. If they're not the they are still incentivised financially to finish as high up the table as they can.

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19 Apr 2021 19:19:23
It has been a very long time since I last posted but this is absolutely wrong on all levels.

I remember H&G and the whole feeling around the club until they left but this is different. I am eager to see what happens with the league as we would have already prepared our legal teams for all possible outcomes.

I doubt that the relationship between us and FA and PL is salvageable after this and we are already UEFA's favourite team due to love of fireworks.

Can you see any players wanting to stay if they are banned from international tournaments or do you believe like me concessions will be met to appease all parties.

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19 Apr 2021 19:13:10
Do any of the Ed’s support the idea of a European super league? If so why. There is strong disapproval of the idea from everywhere so just wondering does anybody like the idea? . tumbleweed.

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{Ed001's Note - no. None of us are in favour.}

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