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20 Jul 2019 19:11:11
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20 Jul 2019 19:11:11
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20 Jul 2019 17:34:55
I wonder if Naby have had the chance to have his work permit sorted while of on vacation. Would be great to have him fully available for the coming season.

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{Ed002's Note - He has to take and pass a test. Liverpool have already asked for an extension.}

20 Jul 2019 18:34:07
Must be hard to learn English when your surrounded by scousers 😂.

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20 Jul 2019 18:50:11
May I ask what would happen if the extension were declined, which I expect it wouldnt? Is it like a temporary work permit?

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{Ed002's Note - He would not be able to play until he passes the exam.}

20 Jul 2019 16:41:41
Brewster's striking technique is wonderful. Very very excited to see how he does this year.

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20 Jul 2019 12:40:09
Watched the boys against Dortmund. Only one game it was, but Kent simply isn't good enough for the first team yet. Wilson, on the other hand, looked an adequate understudy for the front three. Makes me feel less anxious about our lack of activity in the market, to be honest.

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20 Jul 2019 13:09:00
Mate, it is not like City have been very active either.

We are not going to sign any players which are deemed for a starting place.

Think our fans need to accept that fact.

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20 Jul 2019 13:21:25
Whilst there is no doubt our squad is strong and excellent, it simply has too be said it's not as strong as man city's, city were better than us last season an they have strengthened there weak areas, this cannot be said of us, if we are going to put faith in the likes of ryan Kent, Adam lewis, larouci, these lads have not played 1 minute of prem footy and it's a whole different ball game too wat there used too, I am more comfortable with harry wilson an brewster as I believe they have the mentality too adapt, I just think with city going from strength too strength as champions league winners we could at least add 2 players too make our weak areas stronger. We have said we want too win the league but we won't do that by standing still.

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20 Jul 2019 13:28:43
Were City better than us by winning the league by 1 point Hailstones?

Very fine margins and veriables.

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{Ed025's Note - of course they were better...they won it which makes you losers im afraid mate..thats basics..

20 Jul 2019 13:16:29
Yeah I'm with you max.

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20 Jul 2019 13:16:29
Yeah I'm with you max.

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20 Jul 2019 13:43:44
I have said for a long time now we should be keeping Harry wilson, if we want to compete for all competitions he's the sort of kid we want in the squad. However watching last night's match I thought he was out of his depth, he doesn't press with the intelligence of the others. Needs to work on this if he is to stay!

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20 Jul 2019 14:01:01
Look at the games against us they were better, even at anfield we were lucky too get away with a point with mahrez missing a penalty, let me ask you this do u think our squad man for man is stronger than theres? , do u think city are stronger than us in our weak areas e. g cover at left an right back, creativity in midfield, depth in attack with world class talent . Ask yourself that an think are we really strong enough too go one better .

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20 Jul 2019 14:11:28
City are a different team Hailstones.

They won the League by 1 point.

To suggest they were better than us when we had our best ever season in the EPL and pushed them till the very last game?

Variables.

You can go on abot the games we drew. We lost one match the whole season. Pretty much scored as much as City, conceded less.

They beat us while losing more matches than us.

We proved that we are a match for City, irrespective of them being Champions winning by 1 point while the rest of the League sat back and watched.

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20 Jul 2019 14:23:14
Ok then max your opinion is this current squad does not need cover or strengthening, let's see how the season pans out I hope our squad is strong enough and it would be ideal but I ain't buying it . don't forget we play fifa world club, we have too fly round the world mid season also all the cups + European competition we will need too be hitting the ground running each time, let's see how we deal with it .

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20 Jul 2019 14:33:41
I never said we do not need cover Hailstones.

Do you realise that the players we target have expectations?

I am pretty sure you have seen Ed002 mention that we have had discussions about Pepe.

There is a reason why we will not blow a record transfer fee on Pepe as he will not sign unless he starts.

Do you understand that?

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20 Jul 2019 14:59:15
I totally understand that, but in order too get stronger than last season and we have said we want too win the league and fight on all fronts, I am not saying spend the earth on players I am saying be creative and bring personnel who can challenge and step in as an when required we only need 2 or 3 maximum too do that, FROM A POSITION OF STRENGTH WHY NOT GET STRONGER.

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20 Jul 2019 15:14:37
Soon as I see "city have" I have this boredom come over me and scroll to the bottom only stopping to read Ed's comments (bravo ed25 made me chuckle as usual) seriously we are liverpool who cares what city are doing watch your own team and support them and hope we are top by the end of the season we have a full season of fab kieta ox Gomez and if salah stays he won't be starting the season stressing over his shoulder seriously enjoy the ride we will sign who is good for the team maybe building the youth up now we have a competitive team for years to come.

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20 Jul 2019 15:16:46
Hailstones, do you reckon the club have not been working on targets?

In all honesty you are in la la land if you believe the club LFC do not want to sign players.

As I have stated, the players we have targeted like Pepe, which we have had discussions with even Cornet.

You are clutching at straws if you keep on believing Klopp is not willing to add players.

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20 Jul 2019 15:27:45
I didn't once say he doesn't want too sign players, the thing that concerns me is having faith in certain players who will not take us onto the next level and carry on winning trophies an leagues .

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20 Jul 2019 15:31:18
Surely if we want to maintain our elite status we loan kent and wilson to leeds under biesla and sign havertz? Job done.

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20 Jul 2019 15:43:55
Having faith in certain players Hailstones?

What do you mean? Which 1st team starters do we need to get rid of and then finding new homes for Lallana and Shaqiri.

Maybe you do not grasp the current size of our squad and that adding new players is should not be about filling spots in the squad unless it is on based on improving our first team.

Who would you like us to add to improve on Origi?

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20 Jul 2019 16:01:39
We don't need players we need winners.
And now we have winners too. We are going to be too hot to handle next season.
2020 english league is coming home.

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20 Jul 2019 16:14:22
Citeh got one more point than us in the EPL but we got number 6.

If we did the same again next season I would take that.

Pep will be off to pastures new most likely after next season and Citeh will suffer a reaction.

Klopp ha been putting foundations in place for the next 5 years.

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20 Jul 2019 16:21:07
Job done!, we now have winners!, we can rule the world now! Sorry how could I have not taken that into account!

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20 Jul 2019 16:23:14
Ed002, our most reliable source has said he expects a vesatile forward to arrive at Anfield. Please forget about Pepe.

Please be patient. Oh and this player will not be on the level to replace Mane, Salah or Firminho.

End of the story and if that players does not arrive, please do not throw your toys out of the cot.

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20 Jul 2019 16:51:16
It's an opinion, deal with it .

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20 Jul 2019 17:17:57
Do people not realise city have lost kompany? A massive reason behind them winning the league . Also David Silva and aguero are another year older and will start to fade away . Sterling will not have the same impact this season as last in my opinion . Our players are in their prime and youthful . City are ageing.

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20 Jul 2019 17:44:16
I’m with you Hailstones - City won three domestic cups last season, how many cups have we won in the last 10 years?

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20 Jul 2019 18:07:36
Drogie, has Pep won the CL with City, let alone made it to a final with them?

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20 Jul 2019 18:11:39
You hit the nail on the drogie, I don't want our champions league win being a flash in the pan, it would be nice too go for being the best team in the league and dominate, we have never been better situated since we last won the league .

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20 Jul 2019 18:21:49
I love liverpool, i have all my life. But the answer is yes. City were better than us - in the league. To debate that fact verges on the ridiculous. Especially as it could be said that city won it by beating us at the ethiad.

On the other hand, we were clearly better in europe. Partly because liverpool are a huge club with a proud history. City are a big club, of course, but they don't have a history of big european nights like we do.

If you need proof of these things look into the trophy cabinets of both teams.

I will say this though. Leicester won the league a few years ago and i don't think any of us would say they were the best team in england. Maybe they were. Maybe they just hit a perfect chemistry that season.

But i wouldn't worry, there really wasnt much in it.

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20 Jul 2019 18:32:05
Pep has won the league an we haven't for nearly 30 years, can you think of the last team that has won champions league but not won their own league for 30 years, I can't . All this being said our club is so special we can get away with it .

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20 Jul 2019 18:59:14
City won the league without Pep Hailstones.

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20 Jul 2019 11:16:54
Ed, have we looked at or considered any player other than Ricardo Pereira for the duel RB/ LB cover? Do you think he is the type of player who would be happy to be cover? I appreciate that for this type of player to come in we would need to move Clyne on and one of the youth LBs.

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{Ed002's Note - Interest in Ricardo Pereira is long gone and I rather doubt he would want to sit on the bench. Some coaches won't even include FBs on the bench as others can adapt in the case of injury and they would not be needed for a formation change. Maybe Clyne will stay?}

20 Jul 2019 12:08:55
We do have any of Milner, Ox, Fab or even Wijnaldum who could cover full back in an emergency during a match, but if Lewis can step up and let Clyne run down his contract as a squad option then that could save going out and spending unnecessarily on back ups.

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20 Jul 2019 11:52:52
Ed002, Clyne might stay but not sure he will make the bench this season when we have Milner, Gomez and Fab who can fill in at RB.

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{Ed002's Note - That is my point. Why take up places on the bench if versatile cover is available.}

20 Jul 2019 12:21:54
And it’s a good point too Ed.

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20 Jul 2019 12:32:04
Exactly Ed002.

I would like us to sign somebody as cover for LB but then again the players we have targeted for LB may want 1st team football so what then happens to Robertson?

Liverpool cannot go spend for the sake of adding players to make up numbers and singing players as cover substituting their wages for playing time and sitting them on the bench.

We have seen this blow up in our face when it comes to Grujic who is struggling to get a work permit! I am sure we are fitting the bill for at least half his wages while he is on loan.

Clyne is on holiday at Anfield and the club want rid. Perhaps we will sign another RB once Clyne leaves.

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20 Jul 2019 13:17:54
When does clynes' contract end?

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{Ed025's Note - june 2020 mate..

20 Jul 2019 13:36:30
If we want to maintain our top 2 position then we have to recognise that players like Clyne are a necessary evil. We need to have cover in depth for players who will only make the ocasional appearance (even onto the bench) . I’m fine with him being the cover squad position for the remaining year of his contract.

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{Ed001's Note - players like Clyne aren't. Good professionals that can be used for more than just desperation cases are. Clyne should never be anywhere near Liverpool.}

20 Jul 2019 14:30:28
I feel sorry for a player like Grujic. We sined him on the basis of becoming a 1st team starter.

It has not panned out that way. We just cannot afford anymore signings like that.

This transfer window will perhaps show that LFC are done with wasting valuable resources.

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20 Jul 2019 14:30:31
I agree Ed001 on Clyne mate not good enough to be back up, however he is still with us and getting plenty of minutes in preseason. Do you still expect us to bring in cover for the full back area?

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{Ed001's Note - it is trying to find players that are willing to be back up.}

20 Jul 2019 14:55:54
Clyne will leave end of this season once his contract has ended. I honestly do not see him getting any minutes unless all our options at RB are injured.

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20 Jul 2019 15:33:03
Grujic will replace lallana next season and be back up for fab.

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20 Jul 2019 18:26:36
I reckon clyne will leave this summer. Probably why he is getting the minutes, a shop window kinda thing.

But im not going to worry if he stays. He can play against the smaller teams i think and give trent a break. It'll be worrying if we get the injuries that would see clyne start as he is capable of a brain freeze. He can seem like he's playing well and then he switches off and the ball is in the back of the net.

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20 Jul 2019 10:22:30
Ed I want to ask a question about the Spanish press story that we are about to offer Salah new terms on £400K a week. I'm not asking about the validity of it as it is so outlandish it can't be and it would put us in a tight spot with regards to our other high end players. The question is why report it and what is the angle, could they be trying to unsettle him? It litteraly makes no sense since he signed new terms on mega money last year.

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{Ed002's Note - No they are not trying to unsettle him. They will have reported it as they have been told that is the case.}

20 Jul 2019 11:42:57
We can’t be paying him that much Ed, Guaranga.

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20 Jul 2019 11:47:47
Well one thing is for sure, with Salah about to sing a massive new contract, whoever wants to take him from us will be paying the highest premium.

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20 Jul 2019 11:57:25
Perhaps the agent angling for a pay rise?, there's no way we are going to pay a player that much.

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20 Jul 2019 12:00:22
If Ramsey is deemed to be worth 400k at Juve and Sanchez 350k at utd, God knows what Salah, Mane, Virgil et al. are worth.

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20 Jul 2019 12:09:53
Whenever I see the word guaranga I can’t help thinking of the very first GTA game.

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20 Jul 2019 12:17:02
Sanchez at £350k+ per week still makes me laugh. And they’re stuck with him as he’s become football’s equivalent of a Giffen good.

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20 Jul 2019 12:40:35
Can only imagine what its like to be on 100k+ every week and still feel like you need more.

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20 Jul 2019 13:11:47
How can Salah feel like he wants more money when LFC are securing future investment for a player which wants to leave?

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{Ed025's Note - its called avarice mate..

20 Jul 2019 13:32:14
Nah Ed025, when another team approaches us for Salah on a lucritve contract, and let's face it he is a top player then we will be in the driving seat when it comes to negotiations. We do not need to sell Salah, just remember that.

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{Ed025's Note - i know you dont max, but keeping a player who does not want to be there creates its own problems..

20 Jul 2019 14:59:01
If he came to me and asked for £400k per week I'd tell him where to shove it and go find a club who will pay it, plus the £150m transfer fee required. Thank you very much. He's good but that's an outlandish figure and will have an impact on every other good player at the club plus it will mean any quality player we want to sign will have that in mind as their starting salary. I'm also aware that this story is 99.9% likely to be untrue.

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20 Jul 2019 07:39:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 20th July 2019

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20 Jul 2019 08:37:19
Watched the second half of the afcon final, gutted for mane. They created little though but what they did never fell to him, their one bit of quality going forward. Niang is like lukaku without a finish and spurned some good opportunities. Algeria created little too but had the goal to work from.

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20 Jul 2019 10:26:27
As they say, a final is only great if you win it. Overall tho, I think Algeria were the best team in the tournament cos not only did they win all of their games, they played some great stuff up until the final. Also, they managed to beat Senegal (second best team in the tourney, IMO) twice in the same in the same tournament. That is very difficult to do. IMO, they deserved the AFCON crown, all things being considered.

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20 Jul 2019 02:58:00
Question for the Eds if you're able. The preseason gives many fans a chance to see the youngsters play. There has been some talk that a few may have a future with the club (Brewster, maybe Lewis as LB cover) .

I know it's impossible to accurately predict how careers will progress, but I'm curious to know if there are any youngsters you feel confident will have some place with the first team in the future?

Thanks.

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{Ed001's Note - not really any of them that stand out.}

20 Jul 2019 03:58:53
I think that Brewster stands out and will play a role this season.

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20 Jul 2019 05:52:52
I think Brewster has something about him and that knack of being in the right place, at the right time, to bang in goals is something that will serve him well, particularly as an impact sub. He is the only one who really looks capable of functioning within some context of the first team - the others simply don't seem good enough.

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20 Jul 2019 05:57:50
You can't count him, he is already a first teamer.

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20 Jul 2019 07:14:55
Brewster not you cup of tea ed1.

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{Ed001's Note - what? Why on earth would you say that? The lad is a first teamer, I am not going to count him I just said that.}

20 Jul 2019 07:37:21
I think it highlights that whilst we have average back up, we won’t be able to mount a serious challenge for the domestic cups again this season.

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20 Jul 2019 10:29:18
Drogie, let's wait and see what happen asnd how things develop before drawing hasty conclusions during preseason. As for Brewster, it's still preseason hence, I have no opinion on him BUT I will say that the pen. he scored vs BVB was top drawer. That is how veteran pen. takers take their penalties. Bravo to him on that front, at least.

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20 Jul 2019 10:43:14
The idea that you need two world class players is a bit false in my view. Look at when United dominated with Ferguson, they didn’t have two world class players for each position, just decent capable replacements. That’s all. Looking at our squad it’s pretty good and in the best shape it’s been in for a long time.

Keepers
Alisson
Mignolet
Kelleher

Full backs
Alexander-Arnold
Robertson
Lewis
Clyne

Centre backs
VVD
Matip
Gomez
Lovren

Midfield
Henderson
Fab
Wijnaldum
Ox
Milner
Lallana

Forwards
Firmino
Origi
Brewster
Salah
Mane
Shaqiri
Wilson
Kent

And amongst that you have players like Milner and Fab who can cover more than one position.

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20 Jul 2019 11:50:46
Redwolf - Nothing hasty in my thoughts, Klopp has hinted there will be no major signings so it’ll be pretty much the same squad as last season. We were dumped out of the FA and league cup due to the lack of quality as back up.

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20 Jul 2019 10:16:49
Wakey wakey Eds1 it was a joke Brew . cup of tea.

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20 Jul 2019 11:02:58
ed001 what have you thought about Yasser Larouci? .
Looks like he has not done to bad for me, just watched the first half against Dortmund and looked good definitely could do the job Alberto Moreno did for us over the last few years.

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{Ed001's Note - I don't watch friendlies so I have none.}

20 Jul 2019 12:34:34
The team is great, but I'd over the moon with a back up Forward to push the front 3 and fill in when they're out. I can't see Divok being the guy, hope I'm wrong.

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20 Jul 2019 12:56:43
Missed naby out there aswell. Great squad that.

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20 Jul 2019 12:41:19
Drogie, I agree with you, squad isn't deep enough.

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20 Jul 2019 12:43:45
Lot depend on the draw Drogie, helps if you can stay away from teams like Chelsea and Wolves in the 1st round.

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20 Jul 2019 17:49:32
It’s not a criticism or a moan, it’s the hard truth. We have a fantastic first 11, best in years but unfortunately we are in competition with a brilliant City team with quality in depth.

What I will say though is that Klopp inherited a very average squad and has done well in the transfer market, where as Pep inherited a very good team and has kicked on form there.

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20 Jul 2019 00:48:25
FYI, ESPN has a really nice piece about Alisson. It's worth checking out if you have the time.

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19 Jul 2019 20:00:03
Evening Ed's,

Has there been any interest in Daniel Sturridge?

Cheers.

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{Ed002's Note - Lots and no doubt he is considering his future.}

20 Jul 2019 00:07:50
I’ll bet there has been. But as long as he doesn’t bet on it.

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20 Jul 2019 03:06:28
Any offers from MLS? Seems reasonable LA would be a good destination?

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{Ed002's Note - Yes there is an offer from the US, plus China, Australia and others.}

20 Jul 2019 08:36:08
Wherever he may end up, good luck to the lad.

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{Ed025's Note - i think his luck has ran out salah, he has been basically sitting on his arse for 4 years raking in more in one week than an NHS nurse will earn in 3 years, so i will save my good luck messages for those who deserve it more mate..

20 Jul 2019 08:52:28
Well Ed25, I can't argue with that mate.

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{Ed025's Note - hes not the only one though mate, there are a number of players out there abusing the privileges of being a football star, its the world we live in unfortunately..

20 Jul 2019 10:15:14
One thought that springs to mind Ed if you sign a player that doesn't transition in to the team fails to progress and ends up sat out for 90% of the time it's no good to the player or the club. I know the football world is a strange place but can a club even sack a player based on performance or lack of it if no resale option exists are they stuck with the player for the duration of the contract

On the other hand if a player feels he doesn't want to be at a club and can't get a transfer can they simply quit

This is probably more than you would like to go into if it's not something to go into now would it be possible for a article about it one day.

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{Ed002's Note - No, that is because there are contracts.}

20 Jul 2019 10:14:21
Ed25, I agree, it's all about greed imo mate, they let the money get to their heads and don't give a damn about anything else other than their bank accounts. Too much money in it for me but it'll never change it'll just get more daft and we'll see more and more of them taking advantage of it.

Don't get me wrong we have some great players out there who will for an example give to charity and what not but it seems to be quite rare.

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{Ed025's Note - sadly your right salah mate..

19 Jul 2019 20:45:30
Banter - first few names on our team sheet presently!

Very recently it was always top three for me, but it's changed so so much. It's a brilliant place to be as I feel we are really really spoilt with some serious players.

For me at this time:
1 Virg
2 Becker
3 Fabs

They make me feel safe and confident with whomever is front of them. However I feel guilty picking them 3 out (As I say were spoilt)

Had a few bevies so just bit of craic ⚽️🙄✌.

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19 Jul 2019 21:18:12
For me it's
1. Alisson
2. Trent
3. Virgil

Our worst spell last season was when Trent was injured and we had Milner, Hendo, Camacho, Gomez etc at right back. It's not even defensively that he stands out. It's just that he offers a threat from deep that is unrivalled and I've not seen a player who can create so much without having to beat a man since Pirlo was in his prime. He have a real star in Trent. He's not our best player. Probably not even top 5, but he's so vital to the way we play.

Alisson has to be first though because he's the best keeper in the world and our back up (Migs) has only ever been average. We'd probably go to pieces again without Alisson filling everyone with confidence.

Lastly had to be Virgil because he's just a unit. Felt so guilty not even marching Fabinho, Robbo, Hendo or any of the front 3. Just goes to show how good we are nowadays.

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19 Jul 2019 21:43:08
Alisson, VVD, Hendo.

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19 Jul 2019 21:21:34
Dijk
Allisson
Mane

Top two based on the fact firstly they are quality, but also the option if they are not playing.

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19 Jul 2019 22:38:48
Alisson
Vvd
Robertson.

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19 Jul 2019 22:42:48
Cool ⚽️❤✌.

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19 Jul 2019 23:02:02
Alisson. Virg. Robbo. Without a doubt.

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20 Jul 2019 00:08:16
Ali, VVD, Robbo.

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20 Jul 2019 00:09:28
Virgil alisson salah. I don't understand how salah isn't on everybodies list? Scored nearly 70 goals in 2 seasons!

Also, first 3 names is harsh as players like firmino, henderson, robertson, mane, fabhino, taa are all on my team sheet too.

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20 Jul 2019 00:30:26
VVD, Mane, Allisson.

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20 Jul 2019 08:37:04
'Also, first 3 names is harsh as players like firmino, henderson, robertson, mane, fabhino, taa are all on my team sheet too. '

lol my thoughts exactly.

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20 Jul 2019 10:21:31
Poster salah is cool but player salah is a 🛎end that's why he is off most people's list

Mine is allisson vvd and bobby
Reason is allisson is one of the best keepers in the league irreplaceable
Vvd same reason except CB
Bobby no natural back up and works so hard for the team.

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20 Jul 2019 12:38:21
Alisson, Hendo, Firmino.

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20 Jul 2019 12:45:18
Virgil, Salah and Mane. POTY, last years POTY and double golden boot winner and the guy he shared it with this year.

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20 Jul 2019 12:46:27
Bit harsh Salah, he can be greedy at times but i think he was just trying too hard last year to live up to his incredible debut season.

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20 Jul 2019 14:39:01
First time posting, I’ve been following since the beginning. Allisson, VVD, Fab.

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