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19 Mar 2021 11:26:46
Seems like Man City will have to beat Dortmund and one of PSG and Bayern to get the honour of playing us in the final.

All the conspiracy and moaning around draws has been put to rest!


{Ed077's Note - surely you mean the honour of losing to You guys in the final.}

1.) 19 Mar 2021 11:33:26
Not a bad draw really, there are some tough teams left in but on our day we can beat anyone let's do it . YNWA.

2.) 19 Mar 2021 12:18:14
Yes Ed077 agreed.



25 Jan 2021 12:34:28
I feel a little more positive after last night's game. We scored two great goals and conceded 3 stupid, totally avoidable ones. But conceding to stupid mistakes, right now, seems a bit better than conceding to bad luck. Although I must say Utd were really sluggish for parts of the game and Maguire was having a shocker, so we should have really punished them.

Three things I took away from the game.

1. It was good to see some fluency return to our play further up the field. If we had two imposing CBs, we would have won that game easily.

2. Thiago shows class but it would have been much better if we had a full squad with Fab and Hendo available to play in the midfield, which would have allowed Klopp to bed Thiago into our way of playing rather than being thrust into the first team straightaway. He is a magical player but he gives the ball away in dangerous areas-something our strongest midfield setup rarely did.

3. The club should seriously think about getting a CB in this window, even if on loan. If we can get Hendo and Fab playing in the midfield alongside Thiago, the 6 point gap at the top of the table will be crushed in no time. I have no idea who we can bring, but we desperately need an urgent solution.


1.) 25 Jan 2021 14:40:36
We've had 25 days to get a CB, so I don't expect one in the last 6 days of this window, which is very disappointing from the owners.

2.) 25 Jan 2021 14:43:21
A poster on our page made a very good point. Thiago is pure class and clearly a wonderful footballer, but he slows everything down and much of your success has been built on high speed, and energy pressing and passing. So good as he is, does he fit in your team? The evidence suggests not.

{Ed001's Note - it is not true. He does not slow the play down at all, absolute bunkem from pundits with no insight. The problem is that he can't defend and he is playing a defensive role. He is constantly looking to move the ball quickly forward.}

3.) 25 Jan 2021 14:53:37
OP, I too felt a bit positive and your pos. points are more than valid. As for Utd, this is why they don't come out and play vs the big boys or vs anyone period. They get absolutely battered in terms of play cos they have no fluid system.

We were above average at best and nowhere near our standards yet could have won the game and some of our play was actually nice to watch. This is where they will fail, IMO.

As for us, I loved seeing Salah make those penetrating runs and took his goals very well. Low on confidence? Did not look like it. Bobbie also showed flashes of his brilliant self with those tricks vision and link up play that opened Utd up for the two goals. Something we can defo. build on. As for mistakes, Williams needs to learn and learn quickly cos he keeps making the same mistake multiple time. That simply won't fly and Trent is struggling mightily. On to Spurs.

4.) 25 Jan 2021 22:56:09
What is with all this Thiago bashing. He had had C.V. and an injury and is trying to settle into a new time which is disjointed with injuries. He is also playing a defensive role which is not best suited to him. He has not been sensational, but he has shown his ability and class in glimpses. The problem is VVD, Gomez and Matio are out, so the midfield is lacking its bite with the absence of hendo and Fabinho.
Also, he didn’t duck it looked like he tried to get his head on it, but I haven’t watched it back so might be wrong.

{Ed0666's Note - you cannot argue with stupid Todd it’s a fact of life.

5.) 26 Jan 2021 09:28:33
Man of todd, it is just people seeking an agenda. I read on SM a poster said Klopp made a mistake in signing Thiago instead of focusing on a CB. Like the Ed said, you cannot argue with these types of people. They will always drag your level of intelligence down a couple of notches.



17 Sep 2020 10:00:10
Question for Ed002, please. Sorry if this has been addressed already.

There is news that the rebate from the clubs for the TV deal due to CV19 is c. £300m, albeit it due after next season. What is the justification for this rebate given that the competitions were completed - and not just completed but more of the games were aired on the TV so potentially a chunk of supporters who would never pay for BT or Sky packages may have been persuaded to purchase them this year?


{Ed002's Note - They incurred considerably more costs. THis is rather old news and was dealt with a couple of months ago.}



18 Jul 2019 14:29:11
Hi Reds and Ed001,

I'd love to read your opinions and analysis on what we need to take the next step in the PL i. e. beat City.

We only had 7 draws and a loss in the whole season, so clearly there isn't much we can do to improve.

Loss against City we can't legislate for because they are a great team. Perhaps Klopp could have played for a draw after Firmino equalised?

We can't blame bad luck. Yes if Stones hadn't nutmegged Salah (! ) when he cleared off the line, or if Aguero's goal against West Brom got cleared off the line rather than 2-3 inches beyond the line, or if referee had given Keita a penalty against Leicester, we could have won. But we had our own great luck at times- Mahrez missed pen, good luck with injuries to let players, Pickford the saviour etc.

What is it that we can do to go from a 97 points team to a 100 points team? I can only think of the failure to control games like Everton and Utd away in order to get that winning goal. Are fit Keita and Ox our answers to make that final piece of difference?


1.) 18 Jul 2019 14:41:49
Between us and city now, it comes down to pure luck imo.

2.) 18 Jul 2019 15:04:02
Salah, I can see why you would assume it is between us st City mate but it will be tougher this season to match or better what we did last season. Especially with City Spurs and the others all strengthening and us not. We need to avoid injury’s and of course a bit of look along the way.

{Ed001's Note - Spurs are losing players, I am not sure you can call it strengthening when you are likely to lose your best player. And I mean Alderweireld not Kane, as he is the most important and best player they have, but looks sure to move on. Unless they can convince him to stay they will not be stronger.}

3.) 18 Jul 2019 14:41:49
Between us and city now, it comes down to pure luck imo.

4.) 18 Jul 2019 15:09:34
Fabinho being there for the whole season will make a big difference. He's great at playing in balls from deep, people tend to forget he missed the first half of last season. Hopefully Ox's return, Keita adapting and Henderson being played further forwards will add goals from the midfield in order to avoid the number of draws we hand. Otherwise it'll come down to focus, drive and as Salah said, luck.

5.) 18 Jul 2019 15:13:38
Where do you see Alderweireld going, Ed?

{Ed001's Note - not sure mate. There are a lot of options available to him.}

6.) 18 Jul 2019 15:20:46
They have signed Ndomble though Ed who looks very good and possibly Ceballos and a few others they are looking at. I agree on Alderweireld but he is still there at the minute. Was meaning in general the clubs nearest to us from last season have strengthened, City, Utd. Done will laugh at Utd but AWB Maguire possibly Fernandes and a few others makes them a threat?

{Ed001's Note - Ndombele has only replaced Dembele a season late.}

7.) 18 Jul 2019 15:38:33
Cant we sign alderwield? I know we got gomez and improving matip, but surely he improves us.
I mean virgil and alderweireld ably supported by trent fab and robbo is a defence nobody wants to face.
No doubt gomez can be huge and matip has improved but alderwrireld just makes us unbeatable and hence bring the title.

8.) 18 Jul 2019 15:38:36
OP with all due respect, I am not interested in rehashing what happened last season. What we could/ should/ would have done in games X or Y to me is not the best way to approach the new season. For me, we cannot continue to replay games in hindsight like "had we controlled this game better, had Klopp done this or that, o the other in this or that game then. " cos it does not address the other games where we were extremely lucky to win or not lose. Football is not "If X then Y". This is why it is said that a season is full of highs and lows and you have to have more breaks go for you than don't.

What we must do is to learn from the last season on the things we know affected us like lack of FB options when our FB's were either injured or not playing well or more/ better options in attack which could have given us a better chance of winning more games, not that we would have won them. This will give us a better chance of those breaks that did not go for us last season, go for us this season. As for City, we could have beaten City twice last season and still lost the title to them by 1 point cos we have seen that before. Just my take.

9.) 18 Jul 2019 15:41:04
Just something I thought of hhanif005 - But you're also forgetting that if we don't get 97 points then we won't challenge. City will also need to be bang at it to pick up that many points again. I'm not saying that they can't or won't but remember not only would we have to attain a high or higher level again but so will they.

10.) 18 Jul 2019 16:46:22
GouldyTrueRed, I am of the belief that neither us nor City will get the same points tally as we did last season. I just don't see it but of course, I may be wrong.

11.) 18 Jul 2019 20:05:57
Expectations are far too high from every Liverpool fan (myself included) regarding points. How many times in the history of the prem has a team finished on even 90+ points? People need to remember that this isn’t Laliga. A relegation battling team can take points from the top teams.

City couldn’t quite replicate the 100 points from the previous season despite us not beating them like we did last season.
If anything I think this season will probably be a 90-92 point winner and people shouldn’t be disappointed if that’s it.
Other teams know how us and City play, as hard to stop as both clubs are it can be done. City had there own extreme luck come the close of the season, a 2mm goal, kompany with an absolute screamer when they where struggling big time (he wouldn't be able to replicate that if he tried) and loads more like we had our own luck like you said.

12.) 18 Jul 2019 21:13:31
Imo Spurs yes they're a decent team, very good overall but will they come close to the title? Nah not in my opinion, they're far behind Liverpool and City as are the rest.

13.) 19 Jul 2019 01:41:02
Brewster will add goals and assists.

14.) 19 Jul 2019 06:36:46
With regards to Alderweireld leaving, Spurs have basically gutted one of the best defences in Europe and patched it up with exceedingly average (or outright bad) players. It's no wonder they've gone backwards.

15.) 19 Jul 2019 07:56:31
Last season is in the past. It will have no relevance to this season. We could finish 20 points less off but still win the league. We could also go the full season unbeaten say 20 wins and 18 draws and finish outside the top 4. Last season we did amazing but it counts for nothing this season if we do not challenge again. We have no god given right to win things. Last seasons hard work means nothing this season. It’s a blank page and Klopp and the players will write their own story again.

16.) 19 Jul 2019 10:16:32
More points than them!

17.) 19 Jul 2019 18:36:48
I see us mantaining the same level as last year. I don't remember us being particularly lucky. Of course we had bits of luck, good AND bad. We just look so hard to beat. Any team has to beat our midfield, get past our defence and beat alisson. Each of those units are extremely good. I think we'll go one better this season.

18.) 19 Jul 2019 18:53:12
I agree akrubbish. I thought gomez looked great before his injury and matip won me over. i've always liked lovren. But apart from gomez, who is a injury worry, they don't fill me with confidence. Toby Alderwierald would make our back 5 the finished article imo.



10 Jul 2019 18:05:59
Not related to LFC but also not specific to any club so posting here- hope it's okay.

Do Eds or others know what recourse or disciplinary powers do clubs have if a player decides to go AWOL or in cases of gross misconduct? We have recently seen high profile players like Griezman and Neymar not showing up for training, throwing tantrums etc. What can clubs do to fine them? Is a fine limited to their salaries? What about the circa EUR 220m fees PSG paid to Neymar to terminate his contract with Barcelona? If players' behaviour leads to decline in value can the club sue it's players for losses?

We keep hearing of all kinds of behavioural issues with players. Drugs use and smoking, partying ahead of games, PR issues, criminal behaviour etc. Really curious whether clubs have any protection on their assets and financial liabilities.


{Ed002's Note - In terms of fines, in England a maximum of two weeks wages. And players can of course be sacked.}

1.) 11 Jul 2019 12:17:54
it seems as though players are doing this much more, laurent koscielny the most recent player to refuse to join training.

do you think we are going to see a bigger trend of players using these kind of tactics to get moves, or has it always been around.

{Ed002's Note - I hope not - many Premier League clubs have suffered from this blight.}

2.) 11 Jul 2019 12:18:57
Didn't Chelsea sack Adrian Mutu for failing a drugs test for cocaine, and then sued him to reclaim his transfer fee from him?

I don't know the outcome of the case, but I seem to remember something along those lines.

{Ed002's Note - Yes, Chelsea have sacked a number of players for seriously misbehaving.}

3.) 11 Jul 2019 19:34:42
Ed002, as someone who .................


4.) 11 Jul 2019 19:40:17
Fair enough Ed.




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05 Sep 2021 19:51:33
Half of the time these tabloids want to drive hate campaigns against players trying to prove that they are exceedingly greedy, or they just run clcikbait for gullible fans. I would pay no attention to it.

The club has a business model which has already brought success. If Salah's demands are in excess then the club will find a replacement. Salah is not replaceable but the team can be tweaked to play to the strengths of another incoming player to give a somewhat equally effective outcome.


{Ed0666's Note - we need a bit of an overhaul in the summer anyway selling Salah in the summer would certainly add a few pennies to that transfer treasure trove. And if indeed his demands are too excessive then he goes with mucho blessings, love and goodwill as he’s been morning short of an exemplary employee of LFC. The king is dead long live the king.



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21 Mar 2021 22:17:17
Klopp is a professional and an exceptional leader. He won't "fall out" with a key fellow professional. Klopp may have suggested to VVD to not play in Euros but if there is a disagreement I bet Klopp won't be feeling emotional about it.




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03 Feb 2021 12:13:18
I have no idea if he is any good, but it won't make sense for a keeper who's played in the first team for 4 years to come and sit behind Alisson for the next 6 years.




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10 Nov 2020 09:59:45
3 years ago in a similar situation TAA got his chance and grabbed it by both hands, and some!




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30 Sep 2020 13:44:48
Wow, so that makes having a lead at the top of the table and maintaining it more important than ever!





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23 May 2022 21:46:59
Our problem in replacing Salah is that he goes through patches every season where he is truly unplayable. His passing, crossing and ability to create sensational chances for himself and others is very difficult to replace. The two goals he assisted for Mane against City this season are testament to his creative abilities. I think replacing his 13 assists and the amount of defenders he draws to himself will be much harder than replacing his goals.




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18 May 2022 19:39:47
Muslims are anti-LGBT, but in the context of Western countries, they voice their opinion with self-restraint and do not go around abusing gays and lesbians. Forcing Muslims to come out in support of LGBT is oppression, because it does not solve any problem (i. e. if Muslims are not abusing homosexuals then there is no public interest in forcing them to come out in support of LGBT), in fact it creates a new problem, whereby an already ostracised minority is further persecuted for upholding a value which is central to their belief system.

Anti-LGBT abuse is prevalent amongst white working class folk. So any intelligent LGBT campaign should target the problem community, not the Muslim minority.

Don't forget that France is already persecuting its Muslim population by fining women for wearing a veil, and forcing leaders of mosques to publicly disown parts of their belief system. This is the highest level of nonviolent oppression and is not much different from what the Chinese are doing to Uyghur minority Muslims.

Anybody who thinks Gueye is a bigot is totally clueless. Clueless about how colonial mindsets continue to impact minorities to this day. And clueless about how a Western secular Liberal society should balance the competing freedoms between its persecuted minority groups.

This is an appalling PR stunt by PSG. Is the irony lost that PSG is owner by the people who run a country which punishes homosexuals? Clearly this is not a serious campaign, just a poorly thought out PR stunt.




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16 May 2022 16:49:09
Y'alls thinking in some higher dimension which I cannot fathom.

City with 1 fewer point would mean that we would have an outside chance of winning on goal difference irrespective of City.

Now we are wholly reliant on then dropping points.




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25 Apr 2022 03:52:46
Well they do like to go down and roll around for a long time, so I don't expect them to come back up any time soon!




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17 Apr 2022 13:39:55
But I do love Keita. I think he is in the class of Bobby and Lallana when it comes to winning the possession back on the front foot. He robbed B Silva so many times yesterday, who is exceptional at keeping possession. Keita has a unique way of creeping up on you harmlessly and robbing the ball off you.