17 Jul 2024 20:58:30
Good points MK, and this backs it up.
17 Jul 2024 10:37:47
Manchester United agrees a €62 mill deal with Lille over Leny Yoro.
Inios walking the talk.
1.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 10:53:50
Still a huge gamble for UTD coming from a Farmers League. Unproven. Clearly well thought of and a high ceiling but his reps have probably said he’ll get Madrid if he goes to Utd for a few seasons. he's still only young. He’s unlikely to be a starter at Liverpool given VVD/ Quansah/ Konate/ Gomez/ Endo etc can all play there. With experience too.
It’s like Bellingham. Young enough to win everything a few times over with Madrid and still playing the Prem at 25 etc.
2.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 10:58:08
Liverpool were keen, interested and probably tried with a low ball offer for the player @Jimble. He is seen as a generational talent. Say what do you want but if the kid was moving to LFC you would have said different ???.
3.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 11:05:30
Come on jimble you seen what happened a few years ago when we didn’t address a CB problem. Endo won’t be playing there. Gomez is no good there anymore. Konate will be injured. VVD is 33. We’ll have at a minimum 48 games next season probably closer to 60. It’s a car crash waiting to happen again.
4.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 11:08:15
Hi Ed002 - I remember a while back you did suggest Liverpool had been asked to remain updated on the situation and now looks increasingly likely that he could end up in England after all. Did we remain in contact with Lille or are we focused elsewhere?
{Ed002's Note - Liverpool's interest has moved on as they flip-flop between targets.}
5.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 11:34:13
A big fail from the new structure imo. Even worse that it’s United.
6.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 11:34:22
I’d much rather them flip-flop, roly-poly or even cartwheel between targets rather than spend a fortune on players based on potential and flop or have long term ambitions of playing elsewhere.
Right players - right price - right attitude and if they are not available then give the youth prospects or returning loan players a go, I’m sure statistically svdb has a better season than yoro.
7.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 11:35:30
Walking the talk eh?
That’s why after totally undermining Ten Haag for the last few months of the season they went to him on holiday begging him to stay.
Man Utd have a LOT of work to do regardless of who they sign.
I remember when they signed those world beaters Memphis Depay and Anthony Martial.
8.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 11:35:34
We can’t sign every player under the sun but you mean to tell me if we match United’s bid he would choose United who aren’t even in Champions League over us? I trust Edwards and Hughes but if we don’t make a move for him I find it odd. Just my personal opinion, which I’m entitled to.
VVD is 33 years old. 3 things are guaranteed in life and that’s death, taxes and Konate getting injured every season. I don’t want to hear about Gomez at CB because he simply doesn’t and hasn’t played there in years. Yoro is 18 years old who is good now with potential to improve significantly under the right coach and environment, which we now have. Not to mention the fact we actually need a CB.
Richard Hughes spoke about being opportunistic in the market. Well, the Yoro deal is exactly that. We don’t seem to be sticking to targets but instead having a target and then changing the target every other week, which is not how Edwards (I know it’s now Hughes) usually does things.
9.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 11:39:25
The only way they’ve done this is by paying Lille over the odds for a player in the last year of his contract and making him their best paid player at 18. No way he’d be going there otherwise. He’ll be at Madrid by the time he’s 23 if he’s any good and if he flops it will be a spectacular one. I’m concerned that from what Ed says we aren’t acting in a very coherent manner. I only hope we don’t end up with third rate players like Guehi and Rabiot.
10.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 11:47:08
Fair play to utd, put their money on the table. Although this time last year colwill was the new defensive"messiah"and we seen how dat went.
11.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 11:35:52
Ed002 between the flip flopping of targets and no contracts sorted of Salah VVD and Trent should we be concerned it seems very much like Hughes hasn’t a clue what he’s doing.
{Ed002's Note - I am sure the club have been working on contracts but they will want to know the intent of players. I am surprised that the targets have not been refined - but that is possibly still a hangover from those who came up with the targets. I would not blame Hughes.}
12.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 11:37:44
Whom have we fli flopped to now ed02? It was different under klopp. If we don't get the first choice we would sign some other positions first choice most of the time.
{Ed002's Note - It is back to Inacio who would of course be a van Dijk replacement.}
13.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 11:52:51
Hi Ed002 - seems like there is zero planning or ambition from our side at the moment. Not looking promising.
{Ed002's Note - It will not be a lack of ambition.}
14.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 12:09:34
For the team openly looking for a Virgil successor, letting Yoro go to United is a fail. He’s genuinely that good.
{Ed002's Note - Yoro would not be a van Dijk replacement.}
15.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 12:17:19
Would much rather give Sepp a chance than pay 50-60m for an 18 year old. He was one of the top u23 CBs in Europe last season, and with VVD, Quansah and Konate as well as Gomez, I’m not sure paying that much for a teenager who we have no idea how much he’d play at the start is a good idea.
Hopefully Sepp and Slot have talked and he’s happy to stay for a year to see if he can make it here, the comments he made about leaving seemed to be about the lack of chances under Klopp and by all accounts Slot is a fan of his.
{Ed002's Note - No, SvdB is seriously miffed at the club now and fears he is being priced out of a move to PSV.}
16.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 12:20:21
I’ve read that we are flip-flopping a few times now. I’ve got to be honest it’s not filling me with confidence. I thought Hughes would have sorted either contracts out or new signings by now.
17.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 12:25:27
What a bunch of drama queens. Maybe wait until the end of the window and see what happens before you give yourself an ulcer.
18.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 12:27:46
Has anyone actually seen this yoro kid play. iv not but i wouldn't gamble £50plus on a youngster. This is the hardest league in the world, we need a player around the 22/ 23 mark, who has played a couple of seasons . I'm sure there are plenty of very good defenders out there, esp for that price.
19.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 12:34:25
You say that Sporting don't want to do any business with Liv. Is that still the case especially when we are now looking back at Inacio?
{Ed002's Note - It means Liverpool have to make a single cash payment and offer the full buyout clause.}
20.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 12:57:49
We should just pay Everton a Van Dijk sized price for Branthwaite and be done with it. He is the next big CB.
21.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 13:32:43
Just pay for Inacio if you're going to pay for Bratwaithe. Besides I think Everton don't have to sell anymore.
22.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 13:35:58
Priced out of a move to PSV should say a lot. Madrid are hardly banging down our door for him. Try get a good fee and bring in a parter for VVD.
23.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 13:44:28
We are looking at CB’s and a long way to go in the window still. Have a little confidence everyone.
24.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 14:31:54
One may Liverpool have become amateurish in transfers.
25.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 15:23:51
He is a very promising player with good awareness and very good athletic attributes, but he is far from the finished article and still needs a lot of development, especially in possession and on the ball. Anybody thinking he could replace Virgil in a year is naive, he is a project with immense potential but things could also go wrong for him imo, there’s no telling if he could wilt in the premier league too. So it’s far from an unqualified success for United if they get him, it might not be the right environment for him to flourish either.
26.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 15:32:10
I'd prefer Ignacio over Yoro.
27.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 16:13:16
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28.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 16:48:36
I'd prefer Inacio over Yoro.
Yoro is undoubtedly a talent, but goes to ground far too much, and the thought of signing Inacio makes me feel more at ease.
If we signed Yoro, there would be times where he and Quansah would need to start league games together, and whilst we'd be blessed with two of the most promising CBs in the world, it wouldn't take long for them to be shot down if they're found to be lacking experience.
Just my opinion.
29.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 16:55:31
The wage that yoro is getting for 1 year of senior football in the French league is mental.
{Ed002's Note - It is interesting and very embarrassing that so many Liverpool supporters have now turned on Yoro.}
30.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 17:26:11
Honestly never heard of the kid Ed02 until it was mentioned on here and that he was going to Madrid, just reading what’s reported. not everything is embarrassing.
31.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 17:46:09
Don't know why people are fuming we didn't match united to get this lad. 110-145k per week plus an enormous transfer fee for an 18 year old with 1 year left on his contract. Im glad the people moaning have no say in our transfer business. Real must also be mugs for not matching united or maybe its united who are the mugs. Only time will tell I suppose but I know which side of the fence I'm on anyway.
32.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 18:33:26
113k a week is not that steep for a generational talent.
33.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 18:40:34
Not having a go at those who’ve watched this lad play but we have to be honest - he’s untested at Premier League level.
Ligue 1 is a million miles away from the premier league in terms of defensive attributes. The same is true for International football - just ask Harry Maguire.
He’s an untested kid, he might be good, he might be another Phil Jones.
Let’s not pretend we’ve passed up on an established superstar.
34.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 19:10:24
Yoro is a great signing for Man Utd. they obviously wanted him more than we did move on.
35.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 19:35:31
Do people actually realise what “generational talent” means? It means once in a generation. As in every 15-20 years. So you’re saying that Yoro after 1 season has done enough to be quantified as the best CB there will be until about 2040. Lol.
The only player I see in world football who has done enough at a very young age to warrant people even considering that kind of tag is Bellingham and even then it’s there for debate.
Yoro is a good young player and I’m not going to put the kid down because he’s picked United over Madrid. The hyperbole is ridiculous though. And ever since his name was mentioned on here I have been consistent in my opinion that you should not spend mega bucks on teenagers, nor should you give them crazy salaries. It is not the right way to keep a kid grounded and motivated. I said the same about Archie Gray as well. We have our own academy and it’s producing first team players like Trent, Quansah, Danns and Jones. Not to mention honing the skills of kids signed slightly later in their youth careers for much more reasonable fees such as Elliott, Bajcetic, Bradley, Kelleher etc.
We don’t need to gamble big money on signing other clubs kiddies. We should be looking to sign them either when they’re 6-16 years old and still cheap, or when they’re into their 20’s and have proven they can hack men’s football over a sustained period. Yoro might prove to be a stroke of genius like Wayne Rooney was and fair play if he does light it up. But there’s just as much chance he could fade into obscurity how players Jack Rodwell, Ross Barkley, Dele Alli, Jadon Sancho, Anthony Martial, Lazar Markovic etc did after getting everything too soon.
36.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 17:13:19
It's not like anybody is saying he's not a great talent or that he's going to be a colossal waste of money, ed, just trying to qualify it with a more measured evaluation of what he offers given how much he costs. I would suggest there's no need to be embarrassed on our behalf.
{Ed002's Note - It is the same embarrassing turning on players that would be "world class" if they joined Liverpool. It is like a joke and happens every year.}
37.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 20:50:40
A fair post MK.
38.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 20:58:30
Good points MK, and this backs it up.
39.) 17 Jul 2024
17 Jul 2024 21:36:37
This page has became very hard to read during the silly season there is simply no patience at all. Feel for ed002 having to field the questions constantly.
40.) 18 Jul 2024
18 Jul 2024 07:33:52
As always, there are no guarantees in football.
Remember when Martial was going to be this huge thing?
Could go either way and I genuinely wish all the best to Yoro, but I feel like that kind of money at that age almost makes it less likely he’ll fulfill his potential.
41.) 18 Jul 2024
18 Jul 2024 08:29:08
I do seem to remember everyone and his dog claiming Phil Jones was a generational talent when United signed him and look how that panned out.
42.) 18 Jul 2024
18 Jul 2024 11:01:47
There are loads of players these days that have one good season and are called generational talents. Generational talent is the new world class.
One thing I don’t understand is why are we even talking about a kid that’s going to Utd?
I couldn’t care less how good or bad he is. Once he’s worn that shirt he’s dead to me.
{Ed025's Note - i really appreciate your open mindedness and candor BP.. :)
43.) 18 Jul 2024
18 Jul 2024 11:17:03
With the club moving to concentrate again on Inacio do you think this is likely to mean that the club have made a decision on van Dijk's future and they are now moving to either phase him out over the next season, or even let him go this summer should an acceptable offer be received? He will need replaced at some point so maybe now is the time with a suitable player obtainable.
44.) 18 Jul 2024
18 Jul 2024 11:21:23
Hi Ed002 - mention about Inacio above, is this in the place of Virgil ie he would have to leave to go in for Inacio or on top of the current crop of defenders we have with a long term plan of him replacing Virgil, and of course the benefit he can play full back so cover/ compete with Robertson.
{Ed002's Note - Inacio would be a direct replacement for van Dijk. He would not move to be cover. He is a CB not a LB.}
45.) 18 Jul 2024
18 Jul 2024 12:44:28
Uhhhh that means Virgil is leaving? That is the worst news imaginable ?.
46.) 18 Jul 2024
18 Jul 2024 12:19:02
Apologies I had assumed he could play left back but that is in fact Hicanpie. Safe to assume if we see Inacio come in Virgil likely to be leaving, which would be a shame as he was still our best defender last season and would leave a void of experience for those left behind.