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12 Jun 2025 16:58:09
According to my brother, his boss, Bill Winters told him that the Milos Kerkez transfer was decided in January so one can only guess that there's a good chance with all the whispers going on in and around the media etc it might well be true that he's joining us, I'll also admit not much of an itk rumour either.
1.) 12 Jun 2025 17:32:16
You ve thrown Bill Winters right in it there.
2.) 12 Jun 2025 17:43:17
Bill Winters is right up slack alley. He’s going to need his brother Bernie to help him out of this Kerkez-shaped hole. You’ve stitched him up like a kipper, son.
3.) 12 Jun 2025 20:38:17
Bernie Winters' brother is Mike Winters. Bill Winters is Schnorbitz.
4.) 12 Jun 2025 21:00:48
Sooooo it's going to be a lovely day.
5.) 12 Jun 2025 21:25:22
Lovely day was Bill Whithers.
Hence the joke 'How do you make a duck into a great singer? '
Put it into a microwave until it's bill withers.
You're welcome.
6.) 12 Jun 2025 22:10:18
Showing yer age there Rigsby.
7.) 13 Jun 2025 01:15:51
Is Bill Withers any more, cause there ain't no sunshine.
8.) 13 Jun 2025 05:35:43
He’s gone ….
9.) 13 Jun 2025 10:51:06
Nothing gets past Sid.
05 May 2025 10:12:38
"After 20 years at Liverpool Football Club, now is the time for me to confirm that I will be leaving at the end of the season.
This is easily the hardest decision I've ever made in my life.
I know many of you have wondered why or been frustrated that I haven't spoken about this yet, but it was always my intention to keep my full focus on the team's best interests, which was securing No.20.
This club has been my whole life - my whole world - for 20 years. From the Academy right through until now, the support and love I have felt from everyone inside and outside of the club will stay with me forever. I will forever be in debt to you all.
But, I have never known anything else and this decision is about experiencing a new challenge, taking myself out of my comfort zone and pushing myself both professionally and personally.
I've given my all every single day I've been at this club, and I hope you feel like I've given back to you during my time here.
From the bottom of my heart, I thank everybody - my coaches, my managers, my teammates, the staff and our incredible supporters - for the last 20 years.
I've been blessed enough to live out my dreams here and I will never, ever take for granted the special moments I've been fortunate enough to have lived through with you all. My love for this club will never die."
1.) 05 May 2025 10:20:39
Awful message tbh. Sounded like a robot reading a script. Trent was my favourite LFC player but gone down massively in my estimations during this saga. I don’t even begrudge him leaving but should have been honest all along rather than playing with the fans emotions. Would love to say good riddance but his loss massive hurts us as a side.
Just like the world was ending when Torres, Suarez and Klopp left though we will move on in a few months.
{Ed025's Note - i dont think he has done anything wrong myself Brummy, as he said he left it late so he could concentrate on No.20, good luck to him on his new adventure i say.
2.) 05 May 2025 10:22:22
What kind of challenges is he waiting at Madrid I don't know.
3.) 05 May 2025 10:26:08
You’ll be replaced just like every other player who left us and then regretted it .
No big deal for us.
4.) 05 May 2025 10:28:56
Trent speaks good Spanish, has an Instagram girlfriend and will earn a bucket load of cash what could go wrong Unfortunately he is going to a Real side needing a rebuild with potentially a new manager.
Wish him the best and thanks for the memories but time to move on like we have in the past.
5.) 05 May 2025 10:32:05
God luck to him. Hopefully we can move on from the subject now.
We were lucky to have seen Trent at the top of his game and he leaves us with some very good memories.
I would have preferred he stayed but the club will always be here whereas players will move on.
I'd like to wish him all the best with his career, except when he is playing against us in the champions league.
YNWA.
6.) 05 May 2025 10:34:04
Apart from Suarez, no one has thrived after leaving.
Maybe he’ll do well maybe he won’t but like Coutinho, I think he’s leaving at the beginning of something special.
7.) 05 May 2025 10:34:07
What did Kenny say? 'The most important people at Liverpool are the people who want to be here.
Thank you for the 20 years Trent, I hope we knock him out of the UCL next year.
8.) 05 May 2025 10:35:33
The response to his announcement is exactly why he didn’t do it earlier.
The backlash would have been huge. It would have affected his performances and potentially affected the team as a result.
This has been the worst kept secret of the season.
It’s not about playing with fans emotions because he never said he was going to stay. He said he wasn’t going to say anything. In comparison VVD and Mo always said publicly that they wanted to stay.
Not defending his decision to leave. Just pointing out what seems obvious which is why we waited until now to announce it.
Conor Bradley - over to you young man.
9.) 05 May 2025 10:39:17
They've beat us in champs league finals and broke his heart twice! The grass isn't always greener and I hope he isn't on the bus at the parade. For me all this time sticking up for him feels like a loyalty issue and I would of hated Gerrard if he'd left aswell. I would never change my supporting of a football club after 20 years for a new challenge. Nearly at Sterling levels for me.
10.) 05 May 2025 10:42:36
both player and club will move forward and hopefully both can have success! No need for bitterness, both Trent and the club have had a mutually beneficial relationship and now it ends. Winning No 20 was a great parting of ways so onwards and upwards!
11.) 05 May 2025 10:43:33
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out. ??.
12.) 05 May 2025 11:02:12
This hurts and it should hurt he has been fabulous for us. People make decisions like this all the time that other people don't like. Trent will have to deal with this negativity. But if I had the chance I would shake him by the hand and wish him well. Good luck Trent best wishes. YNWA.
13.) 05 May 2025 11:02:40
Why would you want him to have success with RM Downy? This are our rivals.
14.) 05 May 2025 11:05:07
Chronology:
We opened negotiations April 24
Trent stalled until March 25
Conclusion here: “Hughes is doing nothing and doesn’t know how to do deals”.
Maybe the person you’re dealing with isn’t dealing in good faith.
I always believe an academy product has an obligation (if they are a wanted commodity) to try and get the club a fee. He didn’t, he got himself as much as he could. I get that people respect that. I don’t.
He was vice Captain, he was third highest paid and that isn’t enough.
Up the Bradley Reds.
15.) 05 May 2025 11:05:49
Also, this will potentially ruin the celebrations. Is he going to get booed if he plays? Will he be on the parade bus? He should have waited until after.
16.) 05 May 2025 11:11:00
Grow up Mark! I wish Trent well.
17.) 05 May 2025 11:15:20
It won’t ruin the celebrations. He was very sheepish in front of the Kop last week and had to be pushed forward. Will have to see what sort of reception he gets before the parade.
18.) 05 May 2025 11:21:17
He is moving to one of the most Toxic clubs I. Europe from one of the most respected. A club that bullies every referee before the games, causing problems for the man's kids in School! Influencing news organisations to sack reporters for doing their jobs properly with a president as bad as The Donald.
Anyone else but Madrid Trent. Awful club! With an awful attitude. Thank you for your service. ?♂️.
19.) 05 May 2025 11:22:29
Sod him. Top quality player but a niche one, I don’t think Real Madrid will utilise him properly and they’ll be on his case very quickly. I don’t think he’ll stay long, Newcastle in his future.
You can’t blame people for leaving, I don’t like the way he did it but it’s his choice, from a footballing perspective I’d understand it for most, but I just don’t think he’s going to work out there.
Either way we’ve got Bradley we’ll survive. Onwards and upwards we go.
20.) 05 May 2025 11:26:41
You will need to say that to the majority of Liverpool supporters Marty. Most will see it differently to you I feel.
21.) 05 May 2025 11:28:56
I respect he should go where he wants. but not forcing a club to pay a bit of cash for you is insane. He knows he's an amazing talent and going on a free just screws us over for getting a replacement. Screw Madrid for constnatly getting players on free.
22.) 05 May 2025 11:35:48
Instantly becomes a McManaman and an Owen for me. If anything them leaving should be looked at with more understanding. Owen brought in more money and McManaman had been tried to be sold by the club nd had had family tragedy he probably just wanted to get away from. Hopefully he realises what he's doing because as i said before he will NEVER now play for Lfc again, if it all goes pear shaped (and let's face it they only want him cos he's on a free) he will have to come home to a villa or a chelsea at best. A shame, and don't hit me with this 20 year thing, we don't celebrate the 12 years of service every 18 yr old we deem not good enough has given when he doesn't make the grade. A lifelong Lfc fan is literally giving up his lifelong dream to go over to his "mate", its actually mental, if you said to me 12 months ago, Trent would leave i would have signed you in.
23.) 05 May 2025 11:38:15
He finally confirms it and we can move on.
It's his decision to trade inevitable legendary status for a "new experience".
The irony is the "fan" leave the club for nothing AND goes to play for a direct rival.
24.) 05 May 2025 11:46:47
Where did the reports that we opened negotiations on April 2024 come from? Genuinely curious since this is the first I've heard of it.
But anyway, maybe it's just me being apathetic but I don't feel anything about him leaving tbh. He's just another player to me, albeit a good one for us. Liverpool has lost many great players in its history and has still survived to this day. We'll survive him leaving us too.
25.) 05 May 2025 11:58:20
Here We Go….
Let the silly people begin
No player is bigger than LFC. We are and will always be the greatest football club the world has ever seen…
We wish our past and outgoing players the best for their careers and look forward to the incoming talent we take in
YNWA.
26.) 05 May 2025 11:59:02
In the current Madrid system. What like all the other players there have been brought in for. he'll be third choice right back. Unless they change the system to allow for TAA's lack of aggressive defending, he's going to have a difficult time. I cannot believe he has moved for footballing reasons, there is no fit for a TAA in Madrid's current genre of football. Anyway, Good luck to him. Quite honestly i don't think he'll be missed as much as many might think.
More importantly. I think it gives us a great opportunity to tweak the way we set up and play and add a new tactical dimension to our game. We were getting a bit predictable against the more tactically aware opposition.
Absolutely chuffed to bits with number 20.
27.) 05 May 2025 12:10:52
The Athletic.
28.) 05 May 2025 12:13:57
This from James Pearce:
The inside story of Trent Alexander-Arnold's decision to leave Liverpool.
⚽️ Telling Slot face to face at Kirkby in March.
⚽️ Talks/ opening offer initiated by Hughes last April as LFC tried to convince him to stay.
⚽️ How Real Madrid stepped up their pursuit.
⚽️ Why he ultimately decided to leave.
29.) 05 May 2025 12:17:17
Gutted and excited at the same time.
When a star left, our track record always shown we'll be having another star after that.
I'm so excited of who'll be next!
Thanks TAA! I'll be watching lots of Real's games then since you'll be there.
30.) 05 May 2025 12:17:20
He is a world class player who has given his exceptional best for this club (to date), a top young bloke who carried himself out impeccably, a great team player. Wherever he goes throughout his career I will follow and support him.
He gave us one of the best moments in the history of the club on that night against Barcelona.
A Liverpool Legend. YNWA!
31.) 05 May 2025 12:22:21
After his abysmal performance against United it was clear he was leaving.
The fact he is going to the scummiest club in world football is what bothers me more and says a lot about his character. That club has no morality at all but that is their transfer strategy now. Unsettle players to wind down their contracts thus making sure the club receive no funds and are less competitive in the market.
They'll do it to arsenal next with saliba.
Can't wish him all the best because I genuinely hope that whole club implodes.
32.) 05 May 2025 12:40:01
I wish Trent nothing but the best wherever he ends up (except when they play Liverpool, haha) .
He was a great member of the team for almost all of his life, and now he's moving on to a new challenge. Best of luck young man!
33.) 05 May 2025 12:45:32
I’m wondering who the three people ahead of him are?
He will kick the ball towards Mbappe, Vini, Bellingham.
He will be fine there.
34.) 05 May 2025 12:47:43
Good luck to the lad but he had already decided to join them hence why they made a bid for him in January, i don't think he will go on the parade n now with Bradley fit i don't think we will see him in a red shirt again, leaves as legend and remember guys in football there is no loyalty, clubs get rid of boyhood supporting clubs all the time it's a business at end of the day.
35.) 05 May 2025 13:09:04
Thanks Whyowhy for directing me to that article. I read it in full and it seemed like the club and Trent were very professional throughout. It could very well be a propaganda piece put out by Pearce by I don't see how the club nor Trent can be blamed for the way things turned out. It's just the way it is.
36.) 05 May 2025 13:10:46
He gave up potential legend status when he made this decision.
37.) 05 May 2025 13:33:05
No longer a legend for me, you don't walk out on your family.
38.) 05 May 2025 13:33:05
Thanks for being a brilliant part of two PL winning teams and a CL winning team Trent, some fabulous memories and the best corner kick I’ve ever seem - perfect skill and effortless grace and style. Best wishes for whatever the future brings.
“the king is dead, long live the king” - time to step up Conor, your chance to shine.
39.) 05 May 2025 13:36:13
I hear what you’re saying Mark08 but your constant slagging of Trent is a little boring. The lads gone, wish him luck and move on. It’s just a game.
40.) 05 May 2025 13:39:05
This hurts a lot.
For all the drivel he spews, I think Carra got it spot on. I'd understand if we weren't competitive in the League/ CL, but we are. He can win everything he wants right here, it's clearly not about that (and he said as much himself) .
Get him out of the team and play Bradley now imo, we don't have time to be sentimental about this. It's time to give Bradley the chance to show we won't miss Trent.
41.) 05 May 2025 13:41:35
Good luck to him, thanks for working hard and helping us win two league titles.
42.) 05 May 2025 13:43:13
Definitely not world class - had about 3 excellent games all season which is def not in the category of world class - doubt he will even get the right back position for best premier league team this season. Had more poor games than excellent games. Same as last season. And now definitely won’t be classed as a Liverpool legend. Probably a good time to move on though as I don’t think his game would get any better playing for us. Peak Trent was 3-5 years ago. Over to you Bradley.
43.) 05 May 2025 13:59:36
What propaganda are you on about?
You’re not one of those people who thinks the club have a PR team spinning fantasies to make themselves appear better for the transfer obsessed e-reds are you?
You know that’s crackers right?
This was straight from the Real playbook. Tap him up, make sure he runs his contract down, get him on a free and give him some of the money he’d have generated by transfer in extra wages and sign on - but crucially that amount will be less than a transfer fee. It’s what Madrid do. They’re excellent at it.
This is not, in anyway, a failure from Richard Hughes and the club. They’ve been in negotiations since April 24. Trent has stalled until March 25. He’s gone for free and they get their man for nothing and he and his agent get a massive pay day.
Where you still hoping somehow you could blame the club?
44.) 05 May 2025 10:58:46
Ed25 - if reports are to be believed that he’s had his mind made up for over a year he could have announced it at the start of the season and then focused on number 20 to be honest with the fans. Would have got a lot more respect for that in my book. Anyway he should take it as a compliment people some are so angry - shows how much we all loved him.
{Ed025's Note - im thinking more that it was an option rather than set in stone Brummy..
45.) 05 May 2025 14:33:37
You need to learn how to read Whyowhy instead of coming up with narratives in your head about what other people are saying and getting upset about it. I said that the article indicated that no one was to blame for the entire thing. It was just the way things turned out. I'm not blaming the club and I'm not blaming Trent.
Btw, if you read the article, they have not been in negotiations since April 24. That was when Hughes first wanted to start talks with Trent but Trent informed that he wanted to see how the new management got on first before committing to anything, which is fair. It does disprove the notion that the club left it late talk to him about his contract though so I am relieved about that. Things happened and Trent ultimately decided to step outside his comfort zone and try something new for himself. I have to add that it didn't seem like an easy decision for Trent to make, unlike what other posters have been insinuating.
And btw, each team, including us, is still a corporation at the end of the day and they would have a corporate comms team. That's the propaganda I'm talking about. You're naive if you think that our club doesn't have a PR team. So I was just wondering, given the detail that James Pearce went into in his article, whether the information he got from the club was framed in such a way that painted them in a better light. That's the "propaganda" I was talking about.
So, before you jump down my throat and try to put words in my mouth and paint me as someone you think I am, I suggest you learn to read and comprehend what other people are saying.
46.) 05 May 2025 14:54:42
I say this not to offend but for me this is the best thing to happen for Liverpool other than trophies in a long long time.
We will dramatically improve without having Trent. A few tweaks here and there and we will be firing towards a treble imo next season.
47.) 05 May 2025 15:08:04
When you use language like “propaganda” it’s pretty illuminating.
Negotiations started April 24
A negotiation includes: “hi, we want to talk about an extension”
“Not now thanks”
That’s the start of negotiation. It’s started April 24
Your first instinct was to say “well I haven’t seen this anywhere” - so after you see it, you reach the conclusion it’s potentially “propaganda” (is defined as information of a biased or misleading nature) . So who do you suspect is attempting to present biased or misleading information via James Pearce?
48.) 05 May 2025 15:15:42
I'm sorry negativered, I think that is an awful opinion . Trent is a magnificent and truly unique talent, we will miss him and his ability. I'm not saying we won't find a way to replace what he offers but it won't be easy. I"m sad about this for footballing reasons just as much as I am to see him join such a rubbish club. Not going to add to the choir bashing him because I don't see the point, it is saddening though.
49.) 05 May 2025 15:44:51
How unlike you walter, have you been drinking?
50.) 05 May 2025 15:45:08
It can’t be a good thing that probably our highest prized asset leaves for free Negative. I do get the point that Slot can slightly change the way we play and we can hopefully control games even better.
51.) 05 May 2025 14:45:46
Ed025, he's ran down his contract here. Cmonn mate, we're no oil club. We've lost a player here to real Madrid who's worth 100 million. We can't afford to operate like this, It's disgraceful. Trent and his brother have engineered this. If trent was any other player, Gerrard, suarez, coutinho stars before that ran down their contract, there would be justified anger. He's cleverly avoided this. His brother also has a history on his social media of taking sly digs at the club. So no mate, i don't agree with the waving him on and hopefully you do well against us in the champions league. Madrid is a horrible club.
{Ed025's Note - this is all down to mismanagement by the club Batman and not Trent, he should have been tied down or put on the transfer list 18 months ago mate..
52.) 05 May 2025 16:03:07
Don’t begrudge him leaving, and pretty gutted as I’d hoped he would stay, but to do so on a free is a pretty poor move in my opinion - that is close to 100mil. Great player, but not a great exit.
53.) 05 May 2025 16:05:24
He’s blown his legacy for me. Hopefully he won’t get selected for the last 3 games. Talks about loving the club but leaves for £0 meaning they will need to shell out £30m+ for a replacement (I’m unconvinced by Bradley personally) . Awful decision I’m afraid.
54.) 05 May 2025 16:09:07
Just a thought on Trent playing in any of the remaining games. Personally I see no issue in Trent being involved whether as a starter or from the bench. Not to question his attitude though, but there is the potential he could suffer a major injury and therefore may not be 100% committed.
I also bear him no ill will and wish him well unless he plays against Liverpool. Thank you Trent for being a vital member of the Liverpool team which won so much.
55.) 05 May 2025 16:25:56
Fair play to the lad. A truly magnificent footballer, best rb in the world at one point, a mercurial passer of the ball, nice dude to boot. I’m sorry he’s going, but he’s done nothing wrong at all. As a young man with a chance to live and work in a different country with arguably the best club on the planet, he’d be mad not too, if that’s something he wants, which he clearly does. I’ll miss his tenacity and his flair. Good luck to him, right up to the point he plays us in a CL semi final then the worst of luck to him obviously ?.
{Ed025's Note - a very good footballer, who has been the best RB at liverpool at one point is more accurate Hoody...nice dude i agree with mate..
56.) 05 May 2025 16:33:19
Well I hope we never sign him back just another Owen if not worse at least we got money for him and by far the best years of his career. He has left for nothing in his prime while we are at the top for me the worst thing is the nonsense about negotiating a new deal when he had not interest at all just wanting to join the his mate the most overrated player in the world. When it goes wrong and he sees what there fans are like and there on his back I don’t think he will handle it because when the talk about his poor defensive skills came around in the press his confidence took a hit but he had the Liverpool fans behind him and he won’t get that there. My opinion is it will go terribly wrong for him there but he has made his bed so he can sleep in it.
57.) 05 May 2025 16:35:02
So Klopp leaves, the club don’t know who is arriving.
But Ed025 believes we should force a player to sign a contract or transfer list him?
We transfer list him because you can’t make players sign contracts - clubs make offers: Trent says no. We have a player not playing in a vital season (which we won) to do what? Show him what for?
Ed, your blue glasses are steaming up. The player ran his contract down. That’s it.
{Ed025's Note - but thats the gamble WOW, dont moan about losing him for nothing if you are not prepared to call his bluff mate, or you would have ended up with 3 players holding the club to ransom with half a million pound a week contracts, and why you think my views are linked to me being a blue makes no sense at all, say no to drugs my friend..
58.) 05 May 2025 16:40:34
I have no problem with Trent leaving. But no transfer fee?! He'll be a wealthy man with or without the RM signing on bonus. He could have left in a way that paid for his replacement. Transient employee . he could have been so much more.
It will be interesting to see how Slot's tactics evolve next season. Bradley is a very different player and expect new blood in the squad.
Enjoying number 20 and excited for the future!
{Ed025's Note - so Madrid say "hey Trent when we take you we can either give Liverpool £50m or you can have all the money yourself?...now theres a poser... :)
59.) 05 May 2025 16:46:38
Gaga - There's no point in starting Trent if Bradley's fit enough to start all three games. I'd rather work on developing a player who will actually be here next season.
60.) 05 May 2025 16:51:42
It's pointless continuing to engage with someone who only picks and chooses what they want to read and twist it to fit their own narrative and jump down people's throats for it. Read my post in its entirety and the message I was trying to bring across is clear. I thank you once again for referencing the article for me and I'll just leave it as that.
61.) 05 May 2025 17:24:55
You don’t know we didn’t. Your assumption is, I think tainted as with most close rival fans, and so your conclusion on a Liverpool page is “the club did it wrong”. Which I suspect you do because it’s funny to wind rivals up.
We have zero insight. We have no idea what Trent has been saying, we didn’t know we didn’t offer to call his bluff and he won.
He could’ve said “doesn’t matter, I will languish in reserves, I’m going to Madrid” what a win that’d be. Not having access to a player who helped us win our 20th league title.
The assumption the club could’ve done anything to force him to move is not based in reality. Also, transfer listing - is that still actually a thing?
{Ed001's Note - of course transfer listing is still a thing.}
62.) 05 May 2025 18:17:43
Well hopefully we can rebuild stronger, both in defence and midfield. Although I think he was a good player for us, defensively he was suspect on numerous occasions which hopefully can be rectified whether it be Bradley or a signing. And hopefully the midfield will get improved with someone able to link play and put in the crosses and passes trent was able to do. Hopefully we may be able to improve as a team overall.
63.) 05 May 2025 18:40:54
Thank you Trent for all that you have done at LFC
I hope that you win nowt at RM and that you come back to LFC to finish off your career.
64.) 05 May 2025 18:48:47
Had Trent signed a new contract does anyone honestly believe for 1 minute that Madrid would still be putting an offer in for him, not a chance, he likely won’t last 2 seasons before gets moved on for a 40-50 million profit, clever business really, apart from a few Hollywood passes he’s been poor for the last 2 seasons, shame we lost out on a transfer fee but we will certainly improve in that area.
65.) 05 May 2025 18:51:43
I agree with all Ed025 has said
And for me- if the club started talking to Trent and his team in April ‘24 that is way too late.
I’m pretty sure one of the Ed’s said in here an offer was put on the table 2 years ago but the club failed to follow this up?
It isn’t Trent’s fault we aren’t getting a fee for him.
Like Ed025 said- got to call his bluff and if he wasn’t going to sign then he goes on the transfer list
The Club chose not to do that so now we need to go out and buy a RB to support Bradley in that position (I think a whole season of not being rested could be too much for him)
66.) 05 May 2025 19:41:44
Neither party did what should have been done. If Trent wasn't going to sign a new contract last year, he should've been sold last summer and blame lies with LFC for not doing so. If Trent wanted to see how Slot et al would work out, then he should've signed a 1 year extension and treated the club with respect. Leaving his boyhood club, city and supporters on a free is insane and it looks more like individual greed than anything else so I can understand the anger towards him.
Hopefully this is a learning experience for the club (as are Mo and Virg) - they cannot keep putting themselves in this position with contracts.
{Ed025's Note - the problem is RM is that nobody outside the 2 parties knows exactly what went on at those meetings between Trent and the club mate, or what was offered or any alternatives, but i do agree that this has to be a learning curve for the club..
67.) 05 May 2025 19:50:52
There is a lot of heat in this debate over Trent and the notion that he is now a traitor for opting to go to Madrid, had he jumped when we were at a low point then I could see some of the anger being justified as a local talent leaving a sinking ship but we just on the title! Trent is a talented player but let’s be honest here, he is not generational talent and has been bang average this year, if he had a large transfer fee attached to him Madrid wouldn’t be buying him.
Leave him head to Madrid and thank him for his time at the club, we all move on. Madrid are not a direct rival to us and yes we may meet in Europe but wouldn’t we all secretly love to see how he stacks up against our attackers (joke) .
68.) 06 May 2025 08:24:17
Heartfelt condolences to the family and friends of the two riders who lost their lives in the accident at the Motorsport race at Oulton Park on Monday. 21 and 29years of age. Tragic and puts the stuff on this thread in it’s true content of ‘much ado about nothing’.
69.) 06 May 2025 09:24:05
RM tapped up Trent 2 years ago and he's been running down his contract since.
That's what RM do.
Time to move!
70.) 06 May 2025 09:49:28
Everyone in Liverpool is not arsed, he's one of us, helped us win the title, what has he done wrong? If some of you went to the match or lived in Liverpool you'd know we wish him well. Just enjoy being champions,
14 Aug 2024 11:08:24
Sorry Ed001 and Ed002,someone might be pulling my leg here but are Liverpool making tentative enquiries about Nottingham Forest's Danilo, someone I know who lives in Nottingham said we are, mind you he also said Man U are too, not saying we need another CM if that's where he plays, I know nothing about him apart that he's Brazilian, maybe that's the only thing that might connect him to us.
{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}
19 Jul 2024 13:16:06
I know you've covered this Ed's but just reading an article, not twitterX, it looks like Liverpool are now favourites to sign Rabiot was offered a 2yr deal with a signing on fee of in and around €6mil plus €57,000 a week, Rabiot wants nearer €80,000 a week and will sign if those terms are met, obviously not saying it's true so don't shoot the messenger and that includes you VV, is this a runner or once again pure speculation/ bulls#*t.
{Ed002's Note - Adrian Rabiot (CM/DM) Juventus are looking to replace their midfield misfits. They are looking to sell and move off the wage bill players they no longer want to fund replacements they have already identified. As a free agent, Rabiot will, like every other player, be offered to Newcastle. A third party has been instructed to find him a new home and whilst he could have been used in part exchanges previously he has let his contract run down and will leave as a Free Agent in the summer. Liverpool offer an unlikely, at least to me, solution but they have declared an interest and know what the financial implications are. I suspect Manchester United interest has gone. Milan and Real Madrid offer wildcard options. Turkey could provide a solution. Wage demands are excessive.
Someone is teasing you over the wages.}
1.) 19 Jul 2024 14:47:58
Knew it bs as soon as I read the wages.
Rabiot is likely on 200-300k a week and I doubt looking for a pay cut.
Ed2 already stated we had a left field proposal for him which he’s unlikely to be up for.
@VV I’ll save you a type. “He’s sh@t and we should stay well clear.
I’d personally be happy with him as an option but doubt it’ll happen.
2.) 19 Jul 2024 15:11:02
Shaq, I thought that seemed high so I googled and Rabiot earns £148k a week according to salary sport (and that is probably a conversion from approximately 175k euros) .
Though you are right, he probably does not want to take a pay cut. I have no idea what his salary demands are but I've read 9 million euros a year which is more or less the same as what salary sport are reporting he earns now. Sure he'd expect a signing on fee as well though.
I like him as an option and I think he would improve our squad and just about get into our best XI, but for me he's a cheap alternative to Koopmeiners who is younger and superior as a player.
{Ed002's Note - This is why we don't talk about money - the tax situation is very different in Italy.}
3.) 19 Jul 2024 16:33:21
I’d hope we avoid the waster. Would add absolutely nothing to the team other than a huge wage burden. We’d still be left with a gaping hole in midfield. I’m hoping United beat us to the Frenchman as well.
{Ed001's Note - why do you keep making up lies about him? He is anything but a waster. He works hard, that is one of his biggest qualities. You clearly haven't a clue about him so why do you make up nonsense and spout it on here ad nauseum?}
4.) 19 Jul 2024 17:31:19
If he’s a free agent then he’s already taken a pay cut down to nothing I can’t see anyone offering more than 100k a week.
5.) 19 Jul 2024 17:55:04
VV is so pessimistic I bet even his Blood type is B Negative…….
6.) 19 Jul 2024 18:48:03
We’ll agree to disagree Ed. i've never seen him have a good game, to my mind he’s a nothing midfielder, not particularly great going forward and even worse defensively. We were poor defensively in midfield last season and he wouldn’t change that. He would just be a huge wage burden with limited miles on the clock given he’ll be 30 on his next birthday. If we sign him it will be a huge mistake. We should be signing players who can make a difference to the starting 11, not squad filler, and he’s squad filler at best.
7.) 19 Jul 2024 18:50:15
Because he is a liar. It’s been proven on here multiple times.
8.) 19 Jul 2024 21:22:01
Typical Thunderbird, personal insults and nothing of value to say.
9.) 19 Jul 2024 23:03:18
Viktor, there was no mention about his quality from Ed001. He merely pointed out that Rabiot is a grafter and is known for being hardworking, and not the waster that you described him to be. He may not be good enough but a waster he is not.
Btw, I would suggest not labelling players as such. If a player isn't good enough football-wise then describe them as such. Using words like "waster" and "damaged goods" to describe players goes beyond just describing their footballing qualities.
10.) 20 Jul 2024 00:41:25
Yeah VV. I agreed when you replied to Thunderbird on the personal insult. The irony is, you called another individual a waster. If that's not considered as an insult, I apologize.
11.) 20 Jul 2024 10:30:45
Is the Viktor guy just a troll? He said Olmo had poor end product and now he's saying Rabiot is a waster?!
12.) 19 Jul 2024 18:02:04
Ed002, I’m just disputing that he earns £200-300k a week and sharing a rumour with regards his salary demands. I’m not really interested in the money side of things as you can tell. If we sign him we can afford the wages, if we don’t we either couldn’t afford his wages or we didn’t want him enough to pay them. That’s all I really need to understand ??♂️.
{Ed002's Note - All of the figures provided here are incorrect. That is why I don't want to see discussion about money.}
03 Jun 2024 18:51:01
It was a one of tweet Ed 001/ 002 but someone has posted that Liverpool along with a few other PL teams and European teams have an interest in Chelsea's Trevoh Chalobah, obviously Eds I think he's a great player and would suit Liverpool as a CB or even a DM and I'm guessing he could be an elusive Home Grown player to boot, is this a stater or once again just Twitter/ X bull.
{Ed001's Note - I have no idea but I can't see why we would be interested when we have plenty of centre backs.}
1.) 03 Jun 2024 20:23:52
Chalobah is about as mediocre as it gets. Mid table player if ever I saw one.
2.) 03 Jun 2024 21:05:04
Chalobah is a bit of an Aldi Joe Gomez tbh.
3.) 03 Jun 2024 21:44:27
Mid table, in possibly the highest league standard in the world, rates a ‘mediocre’ these days. If you look through the binoculars you might just see reality about to disappear over the horizon.
4.) 03 Jun 2024 23:05:46
Depends on what your ambitions are WDW, if you want to finish 10th or below, Chalobah is your man. I’m guessing you’re pining for the likes of Downing, Cole, Konchesky and Lambert.
5.) 04 Jun 2024 00:13:59
The ambition is still the same as it has been for 60 years Victor.
Win the next game we play and do it with maximum effort and to the best of our capabilities, hopefully playing exciting football that is fun to watch
In my time, I’ve been very fortunate to watch us regularly play great football against all comers, at the highest level attainable and I was lucky enough to watch through the 70’s and 80’s and again, for a brief period in 2019
And d’you know what - when we achieve that level of football we even manage to win stuff
And d’you know what else? We took what you would no doubt dismissively call mediocre players time and time again and the management and coaching staff turned them into much better players.
Ambition is about building a squad where the sum of the whole is greater than the sum of the parts and not providing controversial soundbite uninformed / unqualified opinions as absolute fact (apologies if you have your UEFA badges by the way) .
While you constant criticism often has an element of truth buried somewhere underneath the insulting commentary you fail, without fail, (geddit), to ever offer the slightest inkling that our coaching staff might see things that perhaps forum board members may not notice that they (coaches) can significantly improve on.
6.) 04 Jun 2024 01:08:04
We're going to be linked with a million people, Sid. It's just that time of the year mate. Only things I believe nowadays is what Ed1 and Ed2 say, you may want to keep off x, it's full of utter nonsense as are the other social media sites.
7.) 04 Jun 2024 02:29:26
Great player? Over the last 2 seasons he can barely get in one of the worst Chelsea teams this century.
8.) 04 Jun 2024 03:46:48
Just seen a post on the Utd thread, I was bored and took a gander, a poster asked Ed001 about this player and this is his reply, glad to see I’m not the only one that can see potential there, I bet VV and the like will change their minds now and Salah mate I agree 100% but there is no harm in asking
Ed001's Note - I like him myself, if he was choosing a centre-back to keep out of Chelsea's bunch, he would be the one I would pick for the right-side. Good technically, good in the air, quick enough too. The main thing he lacks is confidence, so he really needs a leader alongside him to bring out the best in him. That is why he improved massively playing alongside Thiago Silva. Put him alongside Martinez and he would grow into an excellent Premier League centre-back I think. He is still a bit raw and inconsistent, but a lot of that is down to facing some really good players in the Prem that force a defender into places they are not used to going. More experience should iron out a lot of that, but even the best can have off days or players that they just cannot cope with at all. Vidic had his Torres for example. But Chalobah is physically imposing, strong, technically very good and fully capable of playing out from the back, it is the mentality that needs most work. Again a lot of that is inexperience, but the shambles at Chelsea certainly has not helped him. Of late though, he has shown signs of settling into the Prem and growing into a very good centre-back. }.
9.) 04 Jun 2024 04:58:25
Just think lads, if VV had anything to do with transfers at Liverpool, this would be the scenario, these players wouldn’t be with us VVD, Robertson, Nunez (Ron would be delighted), Endo, Mac, Szoboszlai (all came from mediocre teams or cheap transfers) and these players would be transfer listed.
Salah (can’t run), Trent (can’t defend), Diaz (he’s dad wants Barca), Jota (always injured), Gomez (can’t play) and Konate (made of crisps to coin his phrase) which would and I quote we’d have a team full of "the likes of Downing, Cole, Konchesky and Lambert".
10.) 04 Jun 2024 07:52:28
We have had worse players over the years for sure. We have won the champions league with worse and I 100% subscribe to it being about how a player fits into a Team/ Squad as priority over individual attributes. In fact, some over compensating individual attributes (over compensating inability to be a team player) can do much harm.
Oh and with worse players in our squad I don’t actually think we have ever finished lower than 8th (and then only a few times) since we returned to the top flight in the 60’s? 10 or below just is not a likelihood! We all want to be #1 though of course. I always trust the judgement and wait to see the player as part of a team before criticising or applauding a transfer tbh.
11.) 04 Jun 2024 09:19:48
it has come to the stage that VV's posts are so full of unremitting negativity that when I see his name attached to a post I give it a miss.
{Ed002's Note - He is very clearly the least knowledgable person on the site - most of his posts are no more than trolling.}
12.) 04 Jun 2024 09:20:20
Amazing. Chalobah. What a terrible shout.
He’s bang average.
13.) 04 Jun 2024 11:12:15
A Chelsea supporting friend of mine is a big fan of Chalobah and can't understand why he doesn't feature more.
Given his age, pace and strength he looks to be a very good prospect. Whilst no one would be shouting from the rooftops if he was bought, he ticks a lot of boxes.
14.) 04 Jun 2024 11:14:34
The people I believe on transfers are ed01 and ed02.
Ed02 is the most knowledgeable person we have and are lucky to get given their insights. Something I appreciate as big reds fan.
15.) 04 Jun 2024 13:14:13
I don't think VV is a troll though. He's just an extremely passionate fan, especially when it comes to transfers. I don't agree with a lot of his views but that doesn't mean he can't voice them out. At the very least, he is consistent with what he has been saying.
{Ed002's Note - His more abusive posts simply get deleted.}
16.) 04 Jun 2024 13:18:41
Kemlyncat, same here mate I usually skip when I see his posts, he's one of a few, I won't read. I read his post above purely because of what you said lol, you baited me to read his post damn you! :)
17.) 04 Jun 2024 16:43:36
VV Preferred Line Up (from the past) :
Pegguy Arphexad
Torben Piechnik
Paul Konchesky
Josemi
Julian Dicks
Antonio Nunez
Jean Michel Ferri
Christian Poulsen
Bernard Diomede
Sean Dundee
El Hadj Diouf.
18.) 04 Jun 2024 20:41:49
Bog standard, you've just given me nightmares over that lineup especially with 1 CB, I'd have had Kvarme in for Dicks, Degen in for Josemi and try to find a place for Jimmy Carter (probably holding the half-time oranges)
19.) 05 Jun 2024 01:56:38
My apologies Ed, didn't know that his posts get abusive. In that case, I take back what I said. Being passionate should never cross the line to being abusive and if it has, it is right that it isn't voiced out in the first place.
20.) 05 Jun 2024 07:14:40
Those saying Chalobah hasn’t managed to get into a rubbish Chelsea team for the last 2 years are just ignorant. He was injured for 90% of this season and played pretty much every game after he came back from injury for the last 10 games or so. The year before he played in 6 CL games and 25 PL games.
21.) 05 Jun 2024 23:56:24
Hmmm - 90% Of season injured = hard pass.
We don’t need sicknotes.
Sid19's banter posts with other poster's replies to Sid19's banter posts
29 Apr 2025 22:08:11
Just for fun lads and if you don't already know type Liverpool FC into the google bar and enjoy.
1.) 29 Apr 2025 23:13:34
Also works if you type "Premier League".
2.) 30 Apr 2025 07:18:31
I mistakenly typed in man united and my computer said " did you mean Liverpool"
3.) 30 Apr 2025 14:08:54
OP, I did that as well and the fireworks came up. Boss stuff, I must say.
18 Apr 2025 12:17:54
RIP Anne Williams.
1.) 18 Apr 2025 14:11:08
Oh no. So sad. What a woman she was.
2.) 18 Apr 2025 14:19:59
Absolutely. What a brave tough woman.
3.) 18 Apr 2025 14:39:02
It was her 12th anniversary on the 18th of April
RIP Anne.
4.) 18 Apr 2025 15:08:23
She died ages ago didn't she?
5.) 18 Apr 2025 15:46:10
18 April 2013. Anne Williams died (aged 62). After her 15 year old son Kevin was killed in the 1989 Hillsborough football stadium disaster she became a tireless campaigner for justice for all the victims. In 2013, she was posthumously awarded the BBC Helen Rollason Award.
Copied from Frank McDonough.
04 Apr 2025 12:21:49
Ed025 what did you make of the game mate and is Moyes the man for ye in the long run and Everton's new ground, me personally think it looks lovely.
{Ed025's Note - i have not been yet Sid but it does look amazing mate, i though it was a poor game to be honest but i think the best team won on the night, as for Moyes i think (and hope) he is short term but results will dictate that..
1.) 04 Apr 2025 15:04:35
I think Moyes is a short term solution myself too Ed. He has done very well in stabilising Everton and for once, things are looking up. But he does have a ceiling that he will hit soon and at that time, the club would need to make a decision whether to stick with him or to get someone who can potentially do better.
{Ed025's Note - your right Drac, but its always a gamble when you get a new manager mate but we are not very good at that..
2.) 04 Apr 2025 15:34:39
Afternoon ed025 it’s a hard choice with Moyes I think he is a good choice to move you away from being a relegation fighting club year in year out but the longer he stays and the more players he brings in makes it harder job for the guy next to change the style of play. This happened to you last time and is happening to West Ham now but for the next two to three seasons if he stays I think you will be higher up the league and challenging for Europe so I think for the next three seasons he should stay then see if from there you can make the right appointment next to move you to the level above Moyes works at.
Disgusted in the reports coming out about Tarkowski and his family Ed am so pleased I have nothing to do with social media and the **** bags that are on it. Hope you have a good weekend anyway Ed.
{Ed025's Note - yeah Grino the internet is full of idiots mate, cheers..
26 Feb 2025 15:10:56
Just thought I'd post this
Stephen Whittle sold his FA Cup semi-final ticket to his best friend, who died at Hillsborough. Stephen was wracked with guilt for selling the ticket. On 26 February 2011, he stepped in front of a train and was killed. He left £61,000 to the Hillsborough families in his will.
RIP.
1.) 26 Feb 2025 16:25:23
One of many silent, unseen victims of that horrible day. Rest in Peace Stephen….
2.) 26 Feb 2025 17:06:38
That's really sad. Of course he had absolutely nothing to feel guilty for. Sounds like a very kind and caring man which is something the world could do with a lot more of, not less.
Man that's really got me I must say.
Thoughts with him and all the Hillsborough victims.
{Ed025's Note - wow, that brought back some really sad memories of that fateful day for me, still hurts..
3.) 26 Feb 2025 17:47:55
Ed025 mate I completely forgot about Stephen until I saw it posted on Prof. Frank McDonough “on this day” X account, even to this day that awful tragedy still bears scars.
{Ed025's Note - it really does Sid, was really sorry to hear about Stephen mate its such a tragic story..
4.) 26 Feb 2025 20:36:40
Can we also take a moment to think of the train driver and his family.
09 Feb 2025
New image uploaded to the
Liverpool Player Sightings page entitled,
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1.) 09 Feb 2025 11:38:16
Sid19, that was actually funny. And you know, it could be true, lol. Man prolly had plans for last night and could not cancel the gig.
Okay, just kidding.
2.) 09 Feb 2025 15:37:10
Hahahaha very funny.
3.) 09 Feb 2025 18:06:44
At least they’re in the next round. He who laughs last ….
4.) 09 Feb 2025 18:21:51
To be fair our game wasn’t any better, granted we had massive rotation.
13 May 2025 15:41:48
And don’t forget MK who can’t forget another Victor classic at the start of the season when he said Liverpool won’t make top 10,because and I quote “Salah can’t run, Diaz dad wants him gone and Konate is made of crisps”, without a doubt one of the most knowledgeable poster on this site.
03 Jan 2025 13:51:36
You never know, one of these days you might just be right with your posts, none of them have been true yet.
26 Dec 2024 10:10:04
He meant Chris Isaak lads not the one from Newcastle as for the Trent rumour covering your bets there by saying he might be going or he could be staying, I could’ve told you that.
12 Dec 2024 10:12:39
Read Ed001 post about this player yesterday and I agree with what he said, it’s a no from me. Nunez the scapegoat stays for me.
15 Nov 2024 12:06:19
OP you’ve already asked one of the Ed’s this question if Chiesa is leaving Liverpool and you’re basically repeating what he posted, oh and didn't you say we’ve also signed Zubimendi, so I’ll take this post with a pinch of salt.
25 May 2025 12:26:25
Barry mate I’m out on the pish meself down here in Tipp, might not be no good for work tomorrow mind and I can’t believe my daughter who lives in Essex is driving up to Liverpool to watch the parade and stay the night by herself, fair play to her though pity I couldn’t make it
RIP the 39 people that died 40yrs ago on the 29th in
Heysel Stadium disaster too.
04 May 2025 13:08:19
You have to remember start of the season VV said that’ll we will be a mid table team as Salah is too slow, Konate is made of crisps and Diaz won’t be with us as his dad wants him gone
(I’ll admit I didn’t think we’d win the league but I had a bit more faith in them finishing top 4)
Everything VV says take with a pinch of salt as he’s definitely not that knowledgeable and their favourite saying at the moment is “English Tax” when mentioning English players linked with us.
22 Apr 2025 11:02:45
Just to help MK out here’s a link for Liverpool finances released for this year
finances article
18 Apr 2025 15:46:10
18 April 2013. Anne Williams died (aged 62). After her 15 year old son Kevin was killed in the 1989 Hillsborough football stadium disaster she became a tireless campaigner for justice for all the victims. In 2013, she was posthumously awarded the BBC Helen Rollason Award.
Copied from Frank McDonough.
26 Feb 2025 17:47:55
Ed025 mate I completely forgot about Stephen until I saw it posted on Prof. Frank McDonough “on this day” X account, even to this day that awful tragedy still bears scars.
{Ed025's Note - it really does Sid, was really sorry to hear about Stephen mate its such a tragic story..