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25 Jul 2020 11:39:15
Bild linked us with highly rated Leverkusen youngster Edmond Tapsoba yesterday. He’s only recently joined them so maybe unlikely.

Eds, any shred of truth in this link? Is he a good player?

FlyPelicanFly

{Ed002's Note - Edmond Tapsoba (CB) Moved to Germany in January 2020 and much is expected of him. They have no have no intention to sell and it would likely take an offer of perhaps €40M to tempt them. No known approach by Liverpool and if there were to be they should perhaps think seriously about him having to play in AFCON.}


1.) 25 Jul 2020 13:22:15
Thanks Ed as always.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}


2.) 25 Jul 2020 16:41:39
Ed002, is AFCON 2021 back on? I thought I read on here that it had been cancelled for 2021? Must have misread or something.

{Ed002's Note - No, I don't recall suggesting that it is. If you are suggesting taht the club is now just buying players for the season and then selling them, you are right, it doesn't matter. But they will again look like complete flakes.}


3.) 26 Jul 2020 10:07:23
The day we take serious news from Bild will be a sad one. May as well listen to that prat from Bolton.


4.) 26 Jul 2020 13:14:58
Thanks for the reply Ed002. And no. There was no ulterior suggestion and implication other than the question. I didn't imply you had said there had been a cancellation either. 👍.


 

 

21 Jun 2020 13:49:08
Eds, have we been scouting any left backs at all?

And how has Firpo fared at Barca? He seems like a very versatile player - LCB, LB and LW. Possible option for a number of positions?

FlyPelicanFly

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any LBs being enquired of by Liverpool. Firpo is available to sell or be traded this summer. Liverpool has no interest in him.}


1.) 21 Jun 2020 14:27:34
Thanks Ed.


 

 

03 May 2020 13:52:21
Hope everyone is keeping safe and save during the lockdown.

Eds - has there been any development with regards to left back? Are we looking to give Larouci and Lewis more opportunities or do we have a different plan?

FlyPelicanFly

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any efforts to sign another left back but with the youngsters you mention and James Milner signing a new contract and Joe Gomez being fit, there should be plenty of cover available already.}


1.) 03 May 2020 15:32:49
Cheers Ed. Appreciate the swift answer.

There was interest in a young French left back from PSG I think. Has that interest ended?

{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware - I have no idea who you mean.}


2.) 03 May 2020 16:36:38
Sorry it was Toulouse. Mathieu Goncalves.

{Ed002's Note - Someone has been teasing you - this was dealt with months ago.}


3.) 03 May 2020 21:43:01
Let the young players compete for the role. Need to look at ways of saving money.


 

 

02 Oct 2018 13:10:26
Did someone say transfers?!?

Eds, after our significant spend in the summer and lack of outgoings do you expect to see only outgoings in January?

And in terms of next summer, what areas do you expect us to look to strengthen/ update?

FlyPelicanFly

{Ed002's Note - I cannot predict the timing of transfers but across the board there does seem to be a swell of clubs looking to do business in January, but I am not so sure Liverpool are one of those. Regardless, the club has looked at Ruben Dias - the Benfica CB - on several occasions and watched him in a national game against Croatia in September, but with Gomez emerging it would make little sense for the player to move somewhere he will be no more than noise in the squad. As I have said already, the club has returned to watch Diego Laxalt (LM) - and that makes sense as the club could do with adding a specialist player there. What makes less sense is the club considering someone for CM at this time with the surprising interest in Aaron Ramsey and the club taking a look at Nicolo Barella (who looks to be heading elsewhere). Obviously scouts will continue to attend games and report back on players, and I suspect interest in the Mexican kiddie Diego Lainez (LW).}


1.) 02 Oct 2018 16:03:05
Well Ed002 I can hardly be classed as your biggest fan (I highly doubt you lose any sleep over that) but can I just say your last few replies have been a joy to read! Long may it continue!

{Ed002's Note - You are very sweet.}


2.) 02 Oct 2018 17:05:14
Wow thanks Ed! What a response. I thought Laxalt was one of Uruguay's best performers (along with Bentancur and Cavani) in the summer. Agree on the Ramsey and Dias links lacking sense. As for Lainez, will look him up! Thanks again!


3.) 02 Oct 2018 17:26:15
Thank you very much for this information Ed, it is most appreciated.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}


4.) 02 Oct 2018 19:18:40
Thanks a lot Ed002. As always your information is highly appreciated. Don't know where the site would be without you.

{Ed002's Note - Too kind.}


5.) 02 Oct 2018 20:18:07
See how nice Ed002 is when he’s not asked silly questions all the time! That said I bet some have been filtered out. 😂.


6.) 03 Oct 2018 00:27:05
Laxalt is primarily a left mid but can play left back right? Can see him in for Moreno?

{Ed002's Note - No, he played LB in the World Cup but that would not be what the club are interested in.}


7.) 03 Oct 2018 12:34:12
Not that it means much nowadays, but hasn't Laxalt literally just signed for Milan in the summer?


8.) 03 Oct 2018 13:53:07
Thanks very much for those pieces of info ed, they’re very much appreciated.


 

 

08 Jan 2018 11:24:18
Do we genuinely have interest in Alisson?

FlyPelicanFly

{Ed002's Note - Roma has admitted an approach from one side (not Liverpool) and they know of interest of others - which may well include Liverpool, but certainly includes barcelona.}


1.) 08 Jan 2018 12:12:02
Thanks Ed. He looks like a very very good keeper. Hope we’re interested.

{Ed002's Note - I think there is interest and certainly he is well thought of having previously been of interest to the Manchester sides and Juve.}


2.) 08 Jan 2018 12:31:31
Would be a good shout. He’s big, agile and commands his area well. He is keeping Ederson out of the Brazil team so he is no mug.


3.) 08 Jan 2018 13:11:48
ed has said they have no need to sell now cl to play for and last 16 they are not stupid what team sell a key player mid season whith no replace.


4.) 08 Jan 2018 12:48:04
What are Barcas plans for ter stegan Ed? Would be difficult to keep 2 first choice keepers happy.

{Ed002's Note - This is the Liverpool page Den.}


5.) 08 Jan 2018 13:38:27
Even as a summer target, a good choice.


6.) 08 Jan 2018 14:20:11
If we're going to make a real challenge next year we've got to be in for a quality keeper. I'd add to that a new CB to play with VvD, a creative type midfielder to replace little Phil (you all know the options by now), another midfield pivot to play alongside Keita and another striker - we'd look a little short up top if we had long term injuries. So 5 1st team additions - good enough to go straight in the team.

I'm assuming 1 or 2 of our current keepers will be allowed to find new clubs (Migs and Bogdan? ) + Can (shame - always liked his endeavour) and Sturridge. Possibly Wijnaldum and Ings may also be considered surplus + 1 of Lovren or Matip.

Obviously there may also be others leaving which I assume will help with FFP and getting those 5 new faces in.

Here's hoping. Either way I trust Klopp to do what he can with the tools at his disposal. I just won't understand it if he doesn't prioritise a new keeper. C'mon Jurgen - you played centre half - you must know the significance of a quality, organising, brave keeper? Makes the whole back line better.


7.) 08 Jan 2018 14:27:10
I still think we’ve missed a chance with Ward. Question for the Ed’s, I know it has been said on here that Ward isn’t happy and wants to go somewhere where he will play, but do you know what the view of him at the club is? Do the coaches rate him as a potential EPL keeper? Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - Well it seems Klopp has apparently told him he will be number one in the future. But I suspect he was fibbing. Typically clubs will use older experienced goalkeepers as third choice and have them giving advice and working with the youth and younger goalkeepers - but that is not how it works at Liverpool.

He is third choice right now and needs to look to move on in the summer.}


8.) 08 Jan 2018 14:31:08
Danny.

‘ed has said they have no need to sell now cl to play for and last 16 they are not stupid what team sell a key player mid season whith no replace. ’

Ummm. Liverpool and Coutinho? ;) just joking but your post made me chuckle.


9.) 08 Jan 2018 14:45:47
I think that was the point SGR!


10.) 08 Jan 2018 15:06:58
Thanks Ed002, big shame about him not getting that chance. Out of interest is there a deliberate policy of 3 relatively younger keepers or just how it has worked out?

{Ed002's Note - I think you will find two of Liverpool's four registered PL GKs are around 30.}


11.) 08 Jan 2018 15:32:20
Hope you’re well Ed.

I have heard a rumour from a deep source that Klopp wasn’t fibbing to Ward, but it’s actually the players attitude since arriving back at the club that has cost him a first team place, or at least a shot at it. Not sure how true this is though.

{Ed002's Note - So why would Klopp tell him he will be number one? His attitude probably relates to a very good loan being destroyed by Klopp (who then didn't play him) and the a season long loan being rejected by Klopp (who then didn't play him). Klopp then tells him he is number 3 (so the chance to sit on the bench in the League Cup) and then Klopp tells him he will be number one in the future. There appears to be a trend here.}


12.) 08 Jan 2018 15:39:19
Ward, Bogdan and Mingolet all need to leave for various reasons. Obviously not all at once.

Wish Ward well he will be a top keeper.


13.) 08 Jan 2018 15:53:44
I don't like what Klopp's done with Ward, but he could fix the situation by playing the lad. I mean, it's not like Mignolet or Karius have set the world alight here. Sure, throwing him in at the deep end wouldn't be fair, but he at least deserves a start somewhere.

{Ed002's Note - He deserved to stay in Scotland and then deserved time playing for the first team at Huddersfield. I don't think he will get the chance at Liverpool Amerigo.}


14.) 08 Jan 2018 15:55:14
A fair point well presented Ed. A shame as the boy has definitely played well during his loan spells.

Are you going to promise me a starting position in the charity match and then bench me instead.?

{Ed002's Note - I need to get on to that - I am running around for other reasons for a few days but at the end of the week I will be on to it. Or my PA will.}


15.) 08 Jan 2018 17:11:16
Says something that Mignolet is so far from where you expect an experienced keeper to be that I’d forgotten he is is almost 30 already.


16.) 09 Jan 2018 17:25:20
Was obvious from the start the decision on Ward was a poor one, he could have played a full prem season with huddersfield (and a starting position in prem is a very rare opportunity for a young keeper) .

If he’d performed we could bring him back in the summer as no.1 with a full year of experience and prem tested, as it is we have no idea if he can cope. Feel very sorry for the lad.


 

 

 

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01 Sep 2021 09:36:06
Whilst I am sure I will get called out by the "top reds" fpr "whining" I think this window has seen the club unnecessarily roll the dice, yet again.

We did it last summer going in light at CB and paid cruelly with it. We doubled down in January and fortunately got away with it by getting top 4.

We're doing it again this year with risks in midfield and forward.

The fact that we will still be relying on Divock Origi off the bench to get a goal is a cold hard truth you cannot make excuses for.

Can we challenge for the big prizes? Yes. Have we chosen to make it more difficult than it needed to be? Absolutely. Was it necessary? I don't think it was.

FlyPelicanFly

{Ed001's Note - why will we 'still' be relying on Divock Origi? He barely played last season, so we were not relying on him then, why will we suddenly be relying on him now? It is just hyperbolic nonsense. Pointless trying to talk to people who just make up lies to try and push their point forward.}


1.) 01 Sep 2021 09:50:06
People should really listen to Klopp's interviews more to temper their expectations.

He's been saying for about 2 years now that he sees Ox as an option as a centre forward. He's constantly backed Origi and Minamino. Everyone at the club was backing Gordon and Elliott all summer.

Klopp is very positive guy and he backs himself and his coaches to work with what they have. I highly doubt he was sat there screwing at 11pm last night. In fact i suspect he was probably in bed!

He is not the sort of manager who needs a constant turnover in playing staff to be happy. I'd go as far to say he is probably ecstatic the club as backed his players already at the club by tying them down to 4 or 5 year contracts.

I'd have loved a new forward. But i also believe that if Klopp had really pushed the issue we would have one. That leads me to believe he has faith in the players he has.

{Ed014's Note - always nice to read your posts MK 👍🏼


2.) 01 Sep 2021 10:20:11
Cheers Ed014. I genuinely think we've had our dip now. From February 2020 until about March 2021 we were anywhere between inconsistent and poor. Lack of supporters was definitely a huge factor.

I really saw a lot of positives at the end of last season and the start of this one. We're coming back with a bang in my opinion. Anfield faithful back under the lights for European nights? Bring on No.7!


3.) 01 Sep 2021 10:50:05
Ed001, I think you get my point. Divock Origi is still our striker option off the bench - 6 seasons later. When Klopp turns to the bench, he sees Divock on it. It's ok though because it's hyperbole and lies.


4.) 01 Sep 2021 10:51:04
Ox as a centre forward?!
Don't see that from what we've seen off the ox when he's not injured.

Wonder if he's great during training.


5.) 01 Sep 2021 10:51:57
Depends what you consider ‘rolling the dice’. I’d say that spending money we don’t really have on average players we don’t really need to appease fans who don’t really know what they’re talking about definitely sounds like ‘rolling the dice’. Or instead of going full Everton and blowing fees and wages on said average players like Traore and Sanches to make ourselves feel important, we could wait for the right targets to become available and the damage caused by CV to subside.

Maybe we’ll be able to buy Bissouma at some point in the future because we’ll be capable of paying the money up front. Maybe there’ll be a clearly desirable target for the forward positions that actually makes sense. Better to keep our powder dry and give more minutes to our youngsters than back ourselves into a financially strung corner chasing Transfer Market Clout, leaving ourselves unable to buy the players we really want when they are actually obtainable. It feels a bit disappointing now but in the long run i’m sure it will make a lot more sense. Let’s just be grateful we already have the squad to manage and a lot of young players breaking through who may get more minutes as a result of this.


6.) 01 Sep 2021 10:20:11
Cheers Ed014. I genuinely think we've had our dip now. From February 2020 until about March 2021 we were anywhere between inconsistent and poor. Lack of supporters was definitely a huge factor.

I really saw a lot of positives at the end of last season and the start of this one. We're coming back with a bang in my opinion. Anfield faithful back under the lights for European nights? Bring on No.7!

{Ed014's Note - totally with you MK, a year to forget doesn’t mean the team and manager won’t again be challenging at the very top mate.

So much quality in that squad, It hasn’t just disintegrated in a puff of smoke.


7.) 01 Sep 2021 11:28:06
Divock literally hasn’t been on the bench all season, Firmino has been the striker that we’ve brought off the bench and Jota is starting most games now. Your post is the dictionary definition of ‘hyperbole and lies’.


8.) 01 Sep 2021 12:15:57
I thought you had more important things to worry about than who Liverpool buy or don't buy?


 

 

30 Aug 2021 12:02:22
It's only a matter of time before we see a leg breaker with this new "let the game flow" approach. You can see that for each foul that is not given, the next one is that bit more dangerous. Revenge tackles will now be back in fashion and somebody is going to get badly hurt.

And this whole "it's our beautiful game" and "it's why PL is the most exciting league" is quite frankly embarassing.

As always, UK media will take a season to catch onto what Klopp actually meant by the leniency going too far rather than interpreting it as a whine.

FlyPelicanFly

{Ed025's Note - no one is saying we want bad challenges FPF but it is a contact sport and mistakes will be made, but dont try and make excuses for the bleating done by klopp last week mate, it was a selfish act by him to curry favour with the officials and was seeking to gain an advantage..


1.) 30 Aug 2021 12:30:46
Good decision to send off Xhaka on the weekend, I think the Refs are applying the new rules reasonable well and its good to see the game flowing more. You would hope that the play acting will reduce as a consequence of these new rules.


2.) 30 Aug 2021 12:29:02
Give it a rest. Football needs to flow. Its a contact sport and I like seeing the agressive side. If I want to watch non contact sport I'll watch netball. I much prefer the days of vinnie jones and roy keane flying into tackles rather than players falling down like feathers.

{Ed025's Note - im with you redhead..


3.) 30 Aug 2021 12:30:00
Ed025 - honestly, Klopp in post-match interviews is usually mouth first, head second. I'd be very surprised if he was thinking about gaining some kind of advantage in the future when he was actually simply saying players should be protected. It is possible for a manager to care for the welfare of players believe it or not. He made similar arguments about number of games too.

PS using your hands/ arms/ elbows to stop another player is still illegal, I believe.

{Ed025's Note - maybe the players should wear suits of armour FPF?, i see nothing wrong with the old shoulder charge or a clash of legs or have we become such a snowflake society that it should be banned?, jurgen knew exactly what he was doing in that interview mate...hes a very clever guy..


4.) 30 Aug 2021 12:46:38
Suit of armour doesn’t protect a broken neck from having your landing disrupted.

And what has holding shirts got to do with the beautiful game?

{Ed025's Note - a foul is a foul nobody is disputing that mate, but bodily contact is all part and parcel of the game..


5.) 30 Aug 2021 12:49:19
days of Vinny Jones and Roy Keane - thug era then.

As Klopp said, there are other sports to watch if that’s what you like.

{Ed025's Note - nobody is advocating thuggery FPF, but we dont want to see ballet with a ball either..


6.) 30 Aug 2021 12:50:52
Or maybe Klopp is just worried about player welfare overall cos he saw his top CB get decapitated in a game and nobody in the ref corp had the slightest idea what to do. Just a thought.

Also, Klopp has been complaining about the amount of games being played the moment he walked in the door in 2015 so not sure how clever he is whereas he has been complaining about the very same thing for near 6 years now.

The fact is that Klopp has always cared about player welfare. Same as Pep BUT when Pep talks about it, he is right and considered a caring guy. When Klopp says it then, he is moaning and trying to get an advantage. Yeah, the goalpost shifting is deafening. Just saying.

{Ed025's Note - decapitated? really, so you would rather see the jack grealish,s mo salah, and richarlison,s of this world rolling around like little fairies when anyone goes near them oli?, klopp is interested in klopp and his legacy thats it, puritanical clap trap to suit his agenda...you two must be related mate..


7.) 30 Aug 2021 13:05:04
“Rolling around like fairies” pretty much sums up the argument. “Man’s game”.


8.) 30 Aug 2021 13:18:00
All joking aside and I'm not looking for an argument but for anybody who can't see how dangerous the new rules are take a look at James Tarkowskis body assault on Ally last week which could of been incorporated as serious foul play, the fact he comes in side on is an attempt at taking Ally out the fact that he's an England international isn't lost on me but it's definitely not on physically attacking a goalkeeper when you know you don't stand at stand a chance of getting anywhere near the ball, as Jorgen said I'll be watching the wrestling soon.


9.) 30 Aug 2021 13:19:07
I don't think you can call players fairies anymore Ed025.

{Ed025's Note - then sprites, elves, or any other delicate creatures you wish to label them mate..


10.) 30 Aug 2021 13:23:28
He's definitely a clever guy! he's managing the red half of Merseyside mate!

{Ed025's Note - clever as in lex luthor, blofeld or general zod..an evil genius.. :)


11.) 30 Aug 2021 13:29:26
BTW ED025, I was only pulling your leg.

{Ed025's Note - im a very serious journalist if you dont mind polecat.. :)


12.) 30 Aug 2021 13:31:37
What game were you watching? If you're talking about the one where Tarkowski won the header and Allison and his momentum had them collide then there was absolutely no foul there. Absolute joke if you think that was anywhere near a foul.


13.) 30 Aug 2021 13:42:56
Did you watch Leeds vs Burnley? Wood and Barnes putting their foot in and wrestling players then falling over and pretending to be hurt themselves. What's 'hard' about that? Con artists. Mee and Tarkovski scything down people left right and center and basically playing rugby. And the pundits like Dublin and jenas saying they like to see it? It's mental. I hope they get relegated.


14.) 30 Aug 2021 13:46:42
Barnes tackle yesterday should be a red, that’s what we don’t want to see, reckless and dangerous for me. What I like about this season is actual tussles for the ball, where the stronger defender wins, not always being a foul. Attackers are normally quicker and more agile than defenders and defenders, so using their strength is their counter. Flying reckless tackles should and will still be punished, but falling over for no contact should be just ignored and play continues.


15.) 30 Aug 2021 13:49:29
I hope Klopp doesn’t start crying about injuries and fixture congestion again this year. We’ve had a summer to get numbers in and he’s been patronising in his press conferences asking for players who improve us. He’s said he’s happy with the squad we have.


16.) 30 Aug 2021 13:51:15
I think Klopp was referring to the constant holding and dragging back of players rather than hard tackling. Solskjaer alluded to the same thing days later.
They both have a point, some of the shirt tugging and blatant holding that "officials just don't see" is mind boggling.
They ignore that but bring out VAR to check if an armpit hair's shadow was offside.
Set pieces and corners are literally just wrestling matches now.


17.) 30 Aug 2021 14:40:16
I was watching an old match man utd v Wimbledon, binning Jones and Co against Roy Keane, Cantona etc. The tackling was ferocious bordering on assault, but the refs gave free kicks when needed, players got up and carried on, to top it off Cantona scored a worldy to do his talking. Great teams can mix the rough with the sublime, that's what makes them good teams, it is embarrassing how some fans act nowadays let alone the footballers.


18.) 30 Aug 2021 14:13:44
How do MMA fighters cope then? Souness broke someone's jaw on the pitch. Typical snowflake generation, the physicality and rough tackles or one of the most enjoyable aspects of football if done properly and no one intentionally tries to hurt someone.


19.) 30 Aug 2021 14:46:17
If referees gave fouls even when players were honest and tried to stay on their feet then you would have less jumping around but the fact is that pogba challenge will have players rolling around more because they know they won't get the foul if they don't. If neves went straight to ground that free kick would have been definitely given.


20.) 30 Aug 2021 14:39:47
Ed25, clearly you didn’t read my posts cos your response does NOT even address any of it. Typical from you, really. As for Klopp being ONLY interested in Klopp, you know very little about him based on that baseless comment.

If that was true then why did he advocate fight to make sure that Thomas Tuchel was his successor on his way out of Dortmund if he only cared about himself? Why did Mario Goetz cry in Klopp’s arms when he left Dortmund for Bayern? Why do the fans at Dortmund, Mainz and even LFC adore/ revere him first as a human being and then, as a manager if it was all about him? I would like you to answer these questions BUT I fear you won’t cos maybe, you can’t.

Klopp has been advocating for player welfare from day one and that is an indisputable fact and YES, VVD was decapitated and nobody wants to watch that type of stone age football anymore hence, rules have changed over decades since. You can let play flow while protecting at the same time, protect player safety as it is not an either/ or issue, a trick you clearly have missed. But hey, You can always go in YouTube and watch trainwrecks/ matches from the 50’s and 60’s if caveman football suits you. Cheers.

{Ed025's Note - you really are a piece of work you know oli, you are as aloof as your manager, the reason he moaned like a little bitch is because you were facing lukaku next game and he was trying to get in the referees head, but you cant see that because of your agenda, now i like klopp but he can be very savvy and alls fair in love and football so good luck to him...but dont you dare try belittle mine or others views with your bullying style of writing, now maybe your a little bit simple or got dropped as a baby i dont know but you must respect other posters (or editors) or the writing is on the wall for you my friend, now i dont take that as a threat..its a promise..


21.) 30 Aug 2021 15:37:22
Which cave did you drag Ed025 out of.

{Ed025's Note - thats all we need...another bloody snowflake..


22.) 30 Aug 2021 17:28:48
Christ lads it’s alright to disagree with a poster or Ed but let’s not get carried away eh.

{Ed025's Note - your right bledd..


23.) 30 Aug 2021 20:59:32
Evening boys, have I missed anything 😂.


24.) 30 Aug 2021 23:16:18
What’s wrong with Stoneage football?


25.) 30 Aug 2021 17:59:22
Gotta enjoy the back and forth Ed and appreciate not everyone supports our own team. It’s nice to have an opinion from someone with no allegiances to the club. Keep up the good work lad.

{Ed025's Note - cheers mate..


 

 

29 Aug 2021 15:07:06
Cheeky offer for Edison Cavani anyone?

FlyPelicanFly

1.) 29 Aug 2021 15:13:15
I’ve read this like 5 times in a row and can’t figure out if it’s serious or not 😂.


2.) 29 Aug 2021 15:52:43
It's 6 times mate😂.


3.) 29 Aug 2021 15:57:10
What is a 'cheeky' bid exactly? Is it accompanied with a joke?

{Ed0666's Note - No Edwards does a mooney when he enters the boardroom before he offers Ed Woodward a tangerine and a I Phone 7 for Cavani


4.) 29 Aug 2021 16:19:42
Joking. Not joking. Joking.


5.) 29 Aug 2021 16:42:14
Ed Woodward is just stupid enough to accept it ed0666, like that scene in blazing saddles with the bat and ball in Governor LePetamaine’s office.

{Ed0666's Note - now that was a movie mate. Great great actors both of them.


6.) 30 Aug 2021 09:14:44
Rather D James from Man utd. for competition to wingers.


 

 

18 Aug 2021 09:52:06
Sending Davies and Woodburn out on loan and the potential Phillips sale suggests we might be giving up on registering the 25-man squad.

If that is the case, even the eventual sales of Shaq and Origi will not be enough to make room for incomings.

Perhaps Taki and/ or Ox are destined to go out on loan or sold? Or maybe we do nothing?

FlyPelicanFly

1.) 18 Aug 2021 10:54:15
And there’s still two weeks to go … how cool is the transfer window 😁.


2.) 18 Aug 2021 11:20:28
How does sending out Davies and Woodburn stop us from registering a 25 man squad? We would have Kelleher, Gomez, Henderson, TAA, Milner, Ox, Jones, and the choice of registering either Elliott or Neco Williams as the 8th player. But for the UCL we will have club-trained players in Kelleher, TAA and Jones only (thus falling one short unless Neco Williams is registered) .


3.) 18 Aug 2021 11:43:51
Jones, Elliott, N. Williams and R. Williams don't need to be named in the 25 man squad this season, ArAy. We have 4 players who count as club trained and would need to be named in the 25 to play. Kelleher, Trent, Ojo and Woodburn. Ojo will be on his way out though and Woodburn looks like he's going to Hearts on loan. So in the Champions League we'd only be able to name 23 'senior' players.

Davies is irrelevant to all of this as he isn't club trained anyway, and we have plenty of homegrown players currently.

It's not really an issue naming less players though considering we do have so many under 21 players capable of contributing. In the Premier League 25 man squad, they don't even take the club trained aspect into account (yet) .


4.) 18 Aug 2021 11:54:05
ArAy- Jones, Elliot and Neco get a free pass in the PL so we are essentially registering 6 home grown and 17 foreign and giving up two HG places which could be occupied by Philips/ Woodburn/ Davies.


5.) 18 Aug 2021 12:47:01
If Phillips, Woodburn and Ojo leave along with Shaqiri and Davies then we have a 24 man squad for the PL.

It would leave us with 6 HG players needing registering. That means we could only name a 23 man squad in the league meaning someone misses out. probably Karius.

We would then have to sell Karius (or not register him - just let the man leave) and another ‘foreign’ player like Origi to make way for a signing like Sarr or Traoré. That’s a lot of people leaving just to sign one ‘foreign’ player over the age of 21. Signing Barnes or Bowen would’ve been a better option if money was available before sales. Doku is under 21 and would not need registering, but it pushes the problem further down the road. Maybe he could replace Mané next year.


6.) 18 Aug 2021 15:26:43
I'm aware of what the rules are in regards to HG requirements and the U23s (Ed002 has clarified easily over a 100 times) . It's a technicality. My point was if a player is in your first team squad and can be registered, therefore allowing you to fulfil both EPL and UCL requirements then why wouldn't you do it? You keep the HG U23s off the 25 squad so that you bring in senior players who are HG? Which one of Traoré, Sarr, Duko, Bissouma, Neuhaus, Sanches, and all the other prospective purchases, is HG exactly? None are except for Bowen (probably, I have no idea) . So it's a choice. Show up with a squad of 25 registered players, or show up with 22 players and 3 HG U23's, which amounts to the same thing.


7.) 18 Aug 2021 18:51:02
ArAy it's not a choice of turning up with 25 or 22+3 as you put it.

For PL it's a choice between showing up with 22 over-21s plus an unlimited amount of U21s, or with 25 over-21s plus an unlimited amount of U21s. So by keeping Davies, Philips and Woodburn we would essentially have 3 extra players available to us with no squad vacancy cost.

For CL it's a little more complicated but essentially keeping Woodburn and Philips gives us a free shot at adding them to the 2 club-trained slots which would otherwise remain unfilled.

Agreed that signing foreign players you have listed will only work if some foreign players (Shaq, Minamino, Origi) leave.


8.) 18 Aug 2021 21:27:18
Guaranga, that was a boring thread.


 

 

01 Aug 2021 11:01:46
I am pretty sure I posted it about a year ago, but my biggest concern is still our chance conversion. We miss too many opportunities.

Even in the title winning season we had too many close games due to chances being missed.

I am confident we'll get a midfielder in replace the availability of Gini. No concern there at all.

However, I am not so confident that we have a solution for changing our poor chance conversion. Jarrod Bowen is not the answer to that I am afraid as he will be nothing more than ok cover.

And I am not going to get into some weird debate about Salah's goalscoring exploits. It's perfectly possible to be a top goalscorer and be profligate at the same time.

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1.) 01 Aug 2021 11:24:15
Bobby is the problem. He doesn’t score enough goals and the supposed strengths of his game such as link up play, awareness and his press were none existent last season.


2.) 01 Aug 2021 11:42:32
Agree with ipc Bobby looked off last season in his passing and goals anew forward or jota playing in his role may work better.


3.) 01 Aug 2021 12:03:20
Whilst Bobby had a very poor season I do think he didn’t have the movement around him either at times. Thiago suffered from the same issue.

Mane’s game was totally off after getting C.V. - even though he kept trying.

Bobby was badly missed vs Real away. Jota has a long way to go to do that job if that’s the plan.

Salah will continue to miss as many as scores. Fortunately the number he scores keep us happy.


4.) 01 Aug 2021 12:14:20
The whole team was disrupted last season, Bobby was never going to thrive in a team with a shattered defence and midfield. The front 3 need to have the confidence that what’s behind them is solid and going to cover them when they attack and in Bobby’s case do some fancy link up play. You could tell they didn’t have that same confidence and had dropped back somewhat. The front 3 will be much better this coming season than last.


5.) 01 Aug 2021 12:20:06
Statistics in isolation again. It means nothing without context. If we created twice as many chances as other teams then it’s like we will miss more chances.
Who cares if we missed chances on the way to winning the league? Salah golden boot winner most years and Mane is always close behind.
I’d say that missing chances is irrelevant if we’re scoring shed loads of goals.


6.) 01 Aug 2021 12:22:55
Mo and Sadio can’t function without Bobby. I’m pretty sure Bobby shouts left, right to them so they know which leg to put forward each time to even walk.

All joking aside I hope Bobby has a good goal scoring season this year. Same as Jota hopefully he continues how he started last season and mane rediscovers his world class form. The 4 options we have up top clubs and fans worldwide would love to have.


7.) 01 Aug 2021 12:23:58
"Bobby is the problem" - so easy to dump the blame on one player. The whole team was disrupted by injuries, loss of form and confidence. It's a finely balanced machine, disrupting one part can have a big knock on effect, disrupting most of it was catastrophic. C.V. and empty stadiums were the straw that broke the camel's back.
Blaming one player is just so short sighted.


8.) 01 Aug 2021 12:45:35
I actually thought Mane was finished last season when he wasn’t scoring as he looked totally done. But the way he finished the season strongly and the benefit of a proper rest, I think we’ll see a rejuvenated Mane and Salah and they’ll be at their prime. So I think forward wise we’re going to be fine.


9.) 01 Aug 2021 12:59:47
I hope they fire this season as I love the three of them when they are on form together and the work they put in when they aren’t.

But…how many frontlines have we seen that go into a 5th season together?


10.) 01 Aug 2021 13:05:49
Problem is our game and expectations are evolving rapidly, Bobby like Lallana is stagnating. Coz fans/ management are asking more and more not only he's link up play but even goals coz he misses big chances on a constant bases when we badly need in tight games. Hence Taki and jota were bought to freshen up things up-front. We need out and out striker coz we hardly get goals from our midfield and a lot of burden is put on Salah, Mane and now Jota to chip in.


11.) 01 Aug 2021 14:01:28
We won the league and The CL with Bobbie on this form so we can more than manage especially now we have Jota. The much bigger issue is Mane, if he gets back to his title winning form we have hardly any worries.


12.) 01 Aug 2021 14:34:10
The biggest problem last year was the erosion of team self-confidence and that was brought about by peculiar circumstances. Our four established centre halves from 19/ 20 were sold and not replaced (Loren) or had all suffered season ending injuries by Christmas.

The major knock on effect was that two thirds of our starting midfield were put into central defence and (particularly in Fabs case) good though they were, we actually managed to both our defence and midfield. Mane getting what seemed to be a bad dose of C.V. seemed to knock him back in terms of both physical fitness and self confidence (and I get the feeling he is someone who needs to feel the love) .

I think there were other effects that undermined us last season - Thiago took time to adjust and again given what was going on around him that wasn’t surprising, Trent’s confidence was shot to hell and for the first two thirds of the season he was just a shadow of what he can be and Robbo, for reasons that aren’t clear to me was asked to play in just about every game (even though we’d brought his understudy in) .

Next season will be different - we won’t have anywhere near the same level of disruption through the spine of the team and some of the players who we introduced perhaps before they were quite ready - Jones, Neco, Rhys - will be better for the experience. We won’t have the same collective problems with the team confidence - the return of the injured players will act as a kick start to confidence and there looks to be 3, potentially 4 youngsters who can be introduced gradually - Elliot, Cain, Clarkson and perhaps Gordon (in the League Cup, FA Cup) .

If we sign a good midfielder that would be the icing on the cake for me.


13.) 01 Aug 2021 14:53:37
If I was Bobby reading all this crap, I’d F off out the club. I kind of see what Gini meant. Beat fans can also be complete idiots. Some people ain’t got a clue about football or take everything into account for the season we just had, the factors that contributed. Gini got the blame but he has gone now so let’s get on to Bobby. Bobby is quality and once he goes you will realise this YNWA.


14.) 01 Aug 2021 15:39:36
Who's blaming bobby? It seems we are not allowed to have opinions cause players might feel bad if they read LMFAO 😂😂😂

It's not only last season is it? Bobby's game has declined for 18 months now and was dropped by Klopp on the bench.

Sentiments have no place when it comes to football. Like one of the greatest manager to ever manage us was Ruthless and hence we enjoyed more success in he's time then any manager.


15.) 01 Aug 2021 15:59:21
Gini got some unfair criticism last year, he was last man standing on a few occasions. Not sure how it’s unfair to Bobby though he hasn’t been playing well, he would say that himself. If you want to play for Liverpool and you are not doing your job well then what do u expect? IMO he is very very lucky to be in this side and has to do more to contribute.


16.) 01 Aug 2021 15:59:50
Bobby still got 9 goals and 7 assists (according to whoscored) last season, which is pretty decent considering he was having a run of bad form, apparently over the park, Richarlison was having his best season ever, but still couldn’t match Bobby and Bobby scored as many as Gabriel Jesus, so the the idea that Bobby had a shocker last year isn’t really backed up by his numbers.

I think Bobby will have a good season.


17.) 01 Aug 2021 17:13:26
One thing is for certain if Bobby has a good season we will be far better off as a team. I have a feeling he will have a big point to prove.


18.) 01 Aug 2021 17:21:05
And still we have people blaming Bobby. When are people going to realise that he's effectively an attacking midfielder and not a striker in our system. He drags defenders and creates space on the regular for mane and salah, unfortunately last season only salah was willing to take some of the chances created.

Regarding signings I can vaguely remember that everyone moaned the summer before we won the league because we signed nobody and everyone else was supposedly strengthening. How did it work out that season?

Support the club and stop carrying on like twitter kids YNWA.


19.) 01 Aug 2021 20:55:38
“Bobbie is the problem”. Absolute tosh. Bobbie had a down season last season BUT bar Salah, who didn’t? Our issue with scoring goals date back to the 18/ 19 season so was Bobbie the problem then it was it the front three as a whole? Again, absolute tosh.

Bobbie can score goals BUT he is not a goalscorer and we all know that so why judge him for what he clearly is not? If Klopp wanted a true goal scorer (you know, like his creation Lewandowski) he would have NEVER built his system around a no.10 playing the CF position. Bobbie has always averaged 10 - 15 league goals a season so if he is having a down year at 9 goals, he is where he is supposed to be production wise.

Like many have said, Bobbie has to come back fit and firing after a good summer rest cos when the team is fit l, pressing well and firing, Bobbie comes alive and we all know that when Bobbie plays well, WE play well, fact. Goals? Bobbie gives us 13 and 10 assists, I’m good with that. Jota is not in Bobbie’s league as a false 9 BUT is a better goal scorer BUT Klopp won’t alter his way of playing to accommodate him.

{Ed0666's Note - Hey Oli I echo you’re thoughts although I think this will be Bobby’s last season with us due to his contract/age. I truly hope he proves his stupid distractors wrong and has a glorious season. How was he supposed to play well on the midst of a pandemic with no Rhythm, players dropping line flies every day, curtailed training, empty stadiums, and a stop start season. And you know what Oli even if he doesn't have a great season so what for me the guys a bonafide ledge. He’s one of the most selfless players I’ve ever seen in my life and a real company man whose smile is as bright when he assists or when he scores. If we had 11 Bobby’s we’d win every single football match we’d play in. Sorry mate I’ve gone on a proper impassioned advocation but the guy is criticism proof in my opinion.

Anyway I better shut up as I’ll combust because I’m already frothing at the mouth 😂


 

 

 

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26 Aug 2021 15:13:20
He was on my wishlist when the summer started.

I guess since then the feeling has been that Elliott and Curtis are ready for more prominent roles.

There’s also been a lot of talk about his attitude although I’ll take that with a pinch of salt.

Some club will get a good player at a very good price.

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25 Aug 2021 10:23:33
Honestly, I don't really see where he would fit in anymore. Elliott and Curtis are our future and it would only push them down the pecking order.

It's not as if Phil is Saul ie almost perfect injury record and consistency over a number of years. And he doesn't have the robustness, athleticism and physicality of Bissouma either.

The only capability Phil could bring is a goal threat from distance or edge of the box. But then we think that about Ox too and that hasn't really worked out so far.

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05 Jul 2021 10:37:46
I would be very concerned about his injury record and his ability to cope with the workload of a Klopp midfield. However, he has the raw materials.

Given Gini's consistent availability, Keita/ Ox non-availability and Hendo/ Fab's muscle injuries, this would be a pretty big gamble.

I can see the logic of Bissouma, Neuhaus or Tielemans - their injury records have been impeccable.

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Thanks for sharing your thoughts Ed.

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06 Sep 2021 10:25:52
Saw the post too. It is a good thread, as it always is by SR.

Not sure what you're saying. Those players you list start many games for top clubs that win big trophies.

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03 Sep 2021 16:17:33
The worst thing about Divock is that he doesn't use his assets at all. He's quick, powerful, is a good finisher with either foot. He has it all yet cannot apply any of it. It is this that really gets on our pips.

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I genuinely don't care what our rivals have or haven't done. It's about what we didn't do given the opportunity to.

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01 Sep 2021 11:27:35
Do you think Kaide Gordon will be coming off the bench to change a game this season. I am willing to bet that won't be happening. It will be Origi or Ox.

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01 Sep 2021 11:24:46
Looking at forwards on paper is one thing. The bottom line is we struggle to score goals and/ or put teams to the sword when the opportunities are created. It's all fine and well saying this can be remedied on the training ground, but it hasn't been so far. This has been going on for a couple of years now.

I look forward to the Ox can play striker propaganda.

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{Ed014's Note - how has it been going on for a couple of years when in the last couple of years you won the League and UCL at a canter.

Fans seem to look at an injury plagued pandemic ravaged season and see it as some kind of gauge of the new norm for you! 🤦‍♂️