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20 Oct 2020 14:21:51
Hi Ed2, you have spoken about this for a while now. I value your insight in such matters over main stream media so wanted to get some information if you don't mind. Apologies if you have answered this elsewhere but has there been significant movement in this European Premier League as the media are now reporting or is there a far way to go for this becoming a reality? Appreciating anything you can share on this.

Alonso1786

{Ed002's Note - This relates to one of the ideas floated as an alternative to try and stop the "elite" European sides breaking away to form a pan-European league. I have explained the proposal before but it surrounds expanding the pre-season International Champions Cup to a much larger event where clubs would be members of the tournament through a debenture type system but need to commit to playing their first team in all games. Those behind it want UEFA (or even FIFA) to formally recognise the tournament (there has been a discussion already) which would be a money spinner but will add many more first team games to the annual schedule. This was one of the major drivers behind the Liverpool owners proposing Project Big Foot - which was obviously nothing to do with helping out the football pyramid but simply a way for FSG to extract more money from the game. I have explained in more detail previously.}


1.) 22 Oct 2020 10:29:19
To be fair, you make it sound like it’s all FSG, when Man Utd’s owners were also heavily involved in the proposal.


 

 

24 Sep 2020 10:45:04
Morning Ed2, you have told us Klopp is looking for a first team defender but with financial constraints due to the C.V. that might prove to be difficult. I know of Klopp's admiration for Diego Carlos but what I wanted to know is if we hold any interest in Ben White who I think is a fantastic prospect. He won't come cheap but in your opinion if we were to make a move for him would it be an attainable avenue to pursue, in terms of whether Brighton have put a price on his head or it's a no go for this season.

Alonso1786

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have looked to bolster the home-grown quota and have looked Ben White (CB) amongst others. Liverpool are one of several sides interested but I don't see him moving this summer.}


1.) 24 Sep 2020 11:00:42
He’s signed a new long term deal has he not? Think we can rule him out for now anyways.


2.) 24 Sep 2020 11:23:32
Thanks for the reply Ed2.

The Southern Red, I didn’t know he put pen to paper a new deal, although it’s not uncommon for that to happen then a player leave shortly afterwards but looks like we can cross this one off for now like you said.


3.) 24 Sep 2020 21:53:47
We have Rhys Williams.


4.) 25 Sep 2020 14:21:30
It's being reported that Leeds bought Llorente from Sociedad for 18M GBP. Is that true? We had been hearing for the better part of 2 years that Llorente was priced out of what LFC wanted to pay, but 18M seems like it would have been a no brainer move had the opportunity come up before we made recent purchases. Did Sociedad panic sell or is there more to the fee that is being reported?

{Ed001's Note - Sociedad have money problems and needed to sell.}


5.) 25 Sep 2020 23:33:00
I also think llorente might not have been too interested in leaving sociedad to join us when other clubs like Leeds could offer him regular starting time. At that age he probably wouldn't want to risk the possibility of seeing Gomez and VVD become consistent partnership and spend a few years of his career not guaranteed to play every week. He'd be aiming to become a starting CB for Spain with pique gone and Sergio Ramos coming to his final years while no other top defenders from Spain are certain to fill those positions. He's 27 and not yet to have a season where he's been an ever present. He needed to seek a move where he can try to bring his game up a gear and maybe reach a level in next season or after to get a big move.

I don't think we had serious intentions to pursue him as I'd imagine the player wasn't expected to be eager to accept the role we could offer.


6.) 26 Sep 2020 14:33:33
Food for thought, but I was under the impression that he was on our short list of CBs who could be automatic starters next to VVD. It just surprised me that he ended up going this window for that price. Don't get me wrong, I am happy with Gomez's game and love him as a player, just needs to string together a healthy year for me to have full confidence in his reliability.


7.) 26 Sep 2020 21:59:00
I understand that we as fans want to see Gomez being reliable as an ever present like van dijk has been. It's such a bonus to have a CB pairing who are together every week but Joe has only just turned 23 and still very young so I'm confident he can improve in this department. What I find impressive is that he and VVD can gel together so quickly when paired up even after periods of time apart.

Imagine a season where they start 35 or 36 league games together how strong they could be. The vidic/ Ferdinand or Terry/ carvalho partnerships were top class when they played nearly every game.

I've no complaints if klopp is ambitious and seeking a defender that is of the quality to expect coming straight into the team but Its hard to get that signing without spending large. I'm currently confident with the boys we have so I'd have no worries at all if we instead signed a cheaper or younger defender who could be managed patiently and look to earn his place without pressure to come straight in. Matip and fabinho also offer us strong options so I'd love to see Gomez being told by klopp he wants him as his trusted first choice and challenge Gomez to focus on achieving a full season of being fit and available. He just needs that full season without any setbacks and playing alongside VVD week in week out his confidence and game would be able to reach another level that we all see he is capable of.


 

 

27 Aug 2020 19:27:06
Players come and go but losing Mane would be an extremely hard pill to swallow due to a few things. Messi, even if for two seasons will make Man City significantly stronger and for me Mane is the forward I would least like to see depart. Who would we replace him with? Now I can name who I would feel will soften the blow but in all fairness are unrealistic due to the money that would be involved so can probably strike them out.

1) Mpappe - Wages, transfer fee and him wanting Real Madrid makes that a no go.
2) Haaland but Dortmund don't need to sell, transfer fee that would involve and the fact we would need to change tactics to accommodate makes that a no go.
3) Sancho, yes has potential but for me we won't be getting the goal return Mane provides and Premier League is a tougher more astute league to that in Germany. Sancho would only work if we also bring in a striker that can make up the goals with a return of 20+ goals in the league because Sancho will most likely provide the assist numbers. These are all ifs and buts in a very very unlikely scenario. There is no one that I can think of like for like who plays in Mane's position, who is attainable that can slot in right away and provide the numbers Mane provides.

Now, some might jump on my back but I think moving to Barcelona might interest Mane. Barcelona and Real Madrid is a big pull for most players but especially for South American and African players. He could be sold on the idea he would be the main man spearheading their revamp and the future not to mention wages, weather, lifestyle etc. All considered makes me worried this might go somewhere, especially when Ed2 has said Barcelona want him and have the money to afford him. If Mane were to leave I would rather take straight cash and more than the quoted €120 and not have their cast offs.

Alonso1786

1.) 27 Aug 2020 19:50:15
Mane has won the prem and champions League with us, he's not from the UK or lived here for a huge amount of time.
So he's achieved a lot here, has no reason to be attached to us, may like the idea of playing in a new league, may want to move to a new city, and may have the opportunity to play for an iconic club regardless of the blip that they are in. It's a shame but it would make perfect sense if Mane wanted to go to Barcelona!


2.) 27 Aug 2020 20:30:25
I Don't see mane leaving. Barcelona cannot afford him anyway, they are even more skint than we are. Also with their past transfer mistakes, I don't see them spending over a hundred million on someone so close to thirty, he's our best player, and in my eyes irreplaceable.

{Ed002's Note - No, Barcelona will be able to afford him.}


3.) 27 Aug 2020 20:47:55
With the Messi money. Really sounds like you believe it has a good chance if happening Ed sadly.

{Ed002's Note - No, I have simply explained what has happened.}


4.) 27 Aug 2020 20:54:03
Barca have so much collateral in unwanted players and wages that they will save.
Please not Dembele though.
Werner and Kai may have softened the blow, should Mane leave, but would they hit the ground running?
Could see them buying someone like Harvey Barnes plus one other in this case, but as Ed says, whoever it is is going to be a step down from Mane.
Mane has to be worth 200m + .


5.) 27 Aug 2020 21:02:12
Might be a case of 1 world class player out, and 3 at the level / potential of Mane and Salah when they joined. What position does the highly rated Lyon player play in?


6.) 27 Aug 2020 21:06:08
I'm going to go ahead and not meltdown with worry over this. Mane will be here next year.


7.) 27 Aug 2020 21:08:10
Harvey Barnes would be another Andy Carroll moment. I’d hope we wouldn’t be so foolish to waste money like that.


8.) 27 Aug 2020 21:56:53
I know nowadays you can't keep an unhappy player but. With the current financial restrictions, I'd rather we signed no other players this season than sold Mane.
We need to keep these 3 together as they are effective as a trio and less so on their own.


9.) 28 Aug 2020 03:21:58
I think Mane has stepped up his game over the past 2 seasons and he's reached a point where many fans feel that he's better than Salah. I'm one of them. I think his overall contribution has better value than what Salah offers. So, if we had to give up one of the front 3, I would sacrifice Salah. But if the fans can see that Mane offers more, other clubs and their scouts would see the same thing also.

It would be a pity if Mane left but he has repeatedly said that he's happy at Liverpool. Players can change their minds anytime and I hope if he does leave, he'll leave in a dignified manner.

Personally, I think he'll stay for another season 'at least'. Leaving now to go to a sinking ship doesn't sound like the best idea. He's 28 now and why would he want to be part of a team that has reached a new low and it could take years to rebuild their confidence and start to win things again. With Messi gone, other star players could also leave.


10.) 28 Aug 2020 02:47:56
Ed002 - Would the purchase of Mane by Barcelona hinge on the sale of Messi? Or would they be able to afford Mane while keeping Messi?

{Ed002's Note - It is perfectly clear in the text.}


11.) 28 Aug 2020 11:23:48
I'll play Devil's Advocate here. If you were Mané, and you were scoring an equal number of goals as your strike partner (Salah) the past two seasons, and yet you were earning only roughly half his salary, why would you stay?

Really hope he stays and LFC sorts out imbalances.


12.) 28 Aug 2020 12:35:09
Mane is very unlikely to leave this window. There is a rebuild coming for sure and I suspect fsg will look to sell high profile players like Mane when there is still high value. I highly doubt it will be this window however. I'm preparing mentally now to lose one or 2 big names next summer.


13.) 28 Aug 2020 12:36:00
Has to be Mbappe if Mane was to go.


 

 

19 Aug 2020 12:40:10
Hi Ed's, does anyone know the plan for Brewster and also the clubs interested in taking him on loan next season? I believe a loan to a premiership club playing the right style of football would be the best solution, unless Klopp plans to use him next season.

Alonso1786

{Ed002's Note - I am hoping Liverpool now give him the chance. A huge amount was expected before his injury and the loan to Swansea worked very well. The issue will be how much time can Liverpool give him - elsea it will be another loan.


1.) 19 Aug 2020 13:18:51
That’s why I would sell origi and Shaq to ensure Brewster and Jones get more minutes.


2.) 19 Aug 2020 13:39:50
So either the first half of the season for the reds, and see how he goes, or an EPL loan somewhere he'll play regularly. I fancy the second option so he can prove he has what it takes for the EPL.

{Ed002's Note - The problem is where does that leave him next summer? Looking for a transfer?}


3.) 19 Aug 2020 13:55:09
Thanks for the reply Ed2, my only worry is what you have raised in the past. Loaning players with no clear career path in place, otherwise a loan to a premiership team would have been good for his progression. I say that on the premise we intend to use him the following season. If we sell Origi that would open up a slot to keep him and use him this season but guess we will wait and see what the future holds for Brewster.

{Ed002's Note - That is way it is really important to have a roadmap for younger players. He is a very good player who can yet get better and certainly offers a very good option in place of Firmino.}


4.) 19 Aug 2020 14:21:36
He did really well at Swansea, his all round play was very good and he scored all types of goals and he didn’t go hiding if he missed a chance. If there’s an opportunity to integrate him into the team then it needs to be taken. He could genuinely save us a fortune.


5.) 19 Aug 2020 14:26:56
I'd love to see him as the preferred other striking option to Bobby but I would also like him to get a full season of first team football and ready to come back and stake his claim as the No1 striker. Its a hard one to judge this to be honest unless like stated a proper plan is put in place for him to develop into the player he can be.


6.) 19 Aug 2020 14:47:48
I think we should keep him at the club, He's not going to make it with us if he never gets the chance. Also we have a full season to congest into a shorter period than normal, increased risk of injuries and so more rotation will be required, he should be able to get plenty of game time.


7.) 19 Aug 2020 14:53:39
ed002 I would like him to have another year on loan but not with some of the premier league teams who have been linked with him that don't seem to create to many chances. He has still only just turned 20 so if we could get him a loan to R B Leipzig who looked like they needed a striker last night and they do seem to take a few loan players and the all seem to get plenty of game time. Maybe a pipe dream but with money issue around from CV they might jump at the chance to take him and I think for a player of his age the German league is a good league to go on loan to.

{Ed002's Note - He certainly won't be moving to RBL, and in any case they have signed another striker already this summer.}


8.) 19 Aug 2020 15:12:23
I did not know they had signed someone already ed. Do you think any of the German teams would take him on loan I think a season where he plays most games would be best for him. After that injury he has only played half a season at Swansea and the 6 premier league teams I have seen him linked with if its true Brighton would be the best of them.

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of interest in him from Germany although Fortuna Düsseldorf have been in contact with Liverpool over Woodburn and they would be a good solution but are not looking for a striker. There is some time to go yet.}


9.) 19 Aug 2020 16:25:52
You can usually tell quite quickly if a player is going to make the grade in the top leagues. The thing is though, the step up between the championship and the EPL is quite substantial. I don't see how one more loan season could be anything other than good for the lad. Sheffield Utd could do with someone like Brewster in their ranks. If he has a good season then, before you know it he is rotating with our forwards.


10.) 19 Aug 2020 16:40:48
ed did Fortuna Düsseldorf not get relegated I do think he is good enough to play top level just feel he would not get the minutes for us that he needs with are front 3 and I don't think his versatile enough to play out wide he looks an out and out striker. Maybe Klopp's close friendship with David Wagner might see him move to Schalke they need help with scoring goals after the break ed.

{Ed002's Note - FD would be agreat option because of the staff they have. You need to move on from thinking he is going to Germany and Schalke have really serious money problems.}


11.) 19 Aug 2020 16:45:09
Sell Shaq/ Origi and keeping Brewster would be a good deal to be honest, unless a prem team took him on loan and he played most games for them. He looks quality and he's only 20 and if he can play in the prem now, that gives us a HG player who we can rely on.


12.) 19 Aug 2020 17:24:53
If he goes on loan again for a season, the other players in the front 3 will be 30 when he returns. Not past it by any means but it is then when Klopp would look to rotate them more to prolong how long they'll be able to play at this level.

I'm not against keeping him as a rotational player this season, but the season after (and with another year of experience), would be the ideal time, as he'll then likely get a lot more minutes and just maybe be in a position to challenge for a starting place.

{Ed002's Note - The solution is not to rotate players as they get to 30 but to start looking to replace the players one by one so as not to take a huge step back in doing all three in one go.}


13.) 19 Aug 2020 17:40:56
Would he get many minutes if he stays? Surely Minamino would be ahead of him for Firmino's backup.

{Ed002's Note - Minamino will be used sparingly to cover for injuries and get only occasional starts. If Liverpool want to keep Brewster they need to start coming up with a proper plan - give him something to aim at for 2021/22 if he is going out on loan again - else he needs to be thinking about a move which would eb a great shame.}


14.) 19 Aug 2020 18:12:50
Surprised by your Minamino comment, sounds like you rate Brewster ahead of him already which is good.

How's this for a plan for Brewster?
Shaq - sell this summer, hasn't really worked out for him.
Origi - sell this summer if he wants to go start somewhere else.
Buy a winger (will of course depend on money, someone like Allan Saint-Maximin) .

This season Firmino's backup is Minamino or play the new winger and let either Salah or Mane slot in centre forward (not like for like but they can play there) .

Next season, Brewster comes back after playing 40+ games and scoring 20+ goals, full of confidence and experience, banging the door down and ready to step in for Firmino. This pushes Minamino down the pecking order for centre forward but he's versatile so see how he is performing and he could cover more positions.

{Ed002's Note - Klopp could of course decide to change the winning formula but that woiuld also block the progression of Elliott. And AOC can cover the wings perfectly well.}


15.) 19 Aug 2020 19:09:12
Elliott is still a kid, we have to give him time. I don't expect him to play 10 full games for us this season.

Ox can cover the wings but he is much better in midfield.

You are getting at is having too many players basically and I do agree with that but it's too many midfielders would be my point. We don't have actual wingers as an option for resting any of the front three.

{Ed002's Note - Minamino and Shaqiri can provide cover. You cannot keep adding players to the squad.}


16.) 19 Aug 2020 19:49:45
I say give him until January, there will be two games a week for the foreseeable and we have no idea on injuries etc. If he takes his opportunity great, if not assess in jan and loan if it makes sense. There will be teams scrambling for players with relegation looming so he will have options.
These players need to be trusted or before they know it their 27 and just bouncing around the fringe.

{Ed002's Note - He'll be needed in January with the front three gone for two weeks or so.}


17.) 19 Aug 2020 20:07:12
I haven’t seen a great deal of Brewster but, what I have, doesn’t convince me in the slightest.
I don’t get how you can say Minamino will play a bit part role, he’s miles ahead of Brewster?
And I don’t see an obvious place for Brewster to be honest.


18.) 19 Aug 2020 21:52:30
@Ed002 I said to add one winger while selling Shaq and possibly Origi as well (if Origi wanted to move on) . I agree we cannot just keep adding players.

{Ed002's Note - The priorities are elsewhere.}


19.) 19 Aug 2020 22:20:30
Ed002 if he does stay maybe some games we might play him up top with Bobby behind him Klopp did do that in Shaq’s first season with Salah up top. Don’t think we would be as tight at the back but against the teams that sit deep it might be an option.

{Ed002's Note - We will have to wait and see, but that would work.}


20.) 20 Aug 2020 08:09:25
I thought the AFCON was postponed until next year?

{Ed002's Note - 2022.}


21.) 20 Aug 2020 08:09:26
Sorry Ed002 I thought Afcon had been cancelled?

{Ed002's Note - There are internationals in Asia, South America and Aftric scheduled.}


22.) 20 Aug 2020 08:57:48
If he has a good pre-seaason Brewster will remain with the 1st team this year.


23.) 20 Aug 2020 09:58:57
For me Brewster should be kept. He's probably never going to have a better chance. With the front 3 aging replacements are likely in a year or 2. A loan to a Premiership team will leave us asking the exact same questions next year, and no matter how well it went I couldn't see us being happy with Brewster coming back as a 1st team replacement for one of the front 3. At least one will likely depart and be replaced with someone who would step right in ahead of Brewster in the pecking order. Give him a go this year, we need back up, our front 3 are flexible so he can be given games for each of them. Or as said up top with Bobby behind. If he can't get goals with Bobby providing and mane and salah flanking him.


24.) 21 Aug 2020 01:26:48
Yep keep and play Brewster. Everything else is awesome. 'Nuff said.


25.) 21 Aug 2020 05:04:53
He would bring more to us than origi with the same minutes. Klopp clearly thinks highly of him. Would add to that young hungry group of English talent trying to push themselves on to more first team involvement. A classic no.9 option when Firmino origi minamino or salah can't give that different approach. Teenagers like Trent, Gomez, Curtis Jones have been proof that keeping youngsters around instead of loans can benefit big time. While Wilson, Kent, Kane can show that even successful loans not enough if klopp has no long term use in mind. Promising players like ojo, Woodburn, ejaria have had struggles on loan which hampered their progress. The key is noting the guys klopp doesn't want to let out on loan unless necessary, they are the ones he sees a future with. Hoever, VDB, Jones, Williams, Elliot, brewster you can see he wants around and have a chance to break in at some point. Wilson, grujic, ejaria, Kane, chirivella, ojo, Kent going out on loans every year were clearly not in his plans ever. I'd think that klopp wants Brewster to stay with the squad this season as he likes him and would rather work with him instead of letting another club have a year developing him in a different way than klopp wishes. Under klopp origi is the only player who has survived after a loan out and came back into first team, and even that was barely as initially he was not wanted and hardly made a squad for months afterward. Sturridge, clyne, solanke, ings, karius, markovic, Flanagan were dead men walking as soon as klopp was happy to let them play elsewhere. Brewster will develop better at us even if it means less gametine.

{Ed0666's Note - stop and re-read you’re first sentence mate. Origi won us the European cup. He scored vital goals in the Premier league (6 goals in 4 starts). I’m not sure Brewester is in that sphere. Divvy may not be everyone’s cup of tea but he has a knack of scoring important goals and is happy to sit on the bench. For me Brewster needs another season on loan to replicate his Swansea form last season. Then bring him back.


 

 

13 Aug 2020 10:59:13
The curious case of Karius. Ed's just hoping we are not left in a situation where we price Karius out of a move and another loan beckons. Is anyone serious in purchasing him from us?

Alonso1786

{Ed002's Note - Loris Karius (G) Liverpool find him back on the doorstep and will need to find a solution - perhaps a reduced price and an early exit - CSKA and Hertha Berlin offer opportunities - does not wish to return to Turkey although there is interest from there. With Boeckx getting toward the end of his career and Roef's departure this summer already agreed Anderlecht would like him to challenge first choice Van Crombrugge. Wolves needed cover, but Karius would not be first choice there as they have added a player - and regular playing time is what he will be after.}


1.) 13 Aug 2020 12:21:23
Thanks for the reply. I have lost superlatives to describe your knowledge Ed2.


2.) 13 Aug 2020 13:35:34
ed002 when you say reduced price have we asked for a price for him. I can't see him being worth to much but I do know we ask for stupid money for players sometimes Clyne was a great example wanted to much money then we ended up getting stuck with him for the rest of his contract so paying his high wages and lost what transfer fee we could have got.

{Ed002's Note - Yes, Liverpool gave Anderlecht a price which they did not see value in and the picked up cover from elsewhere. No it would depend on price and departures - so much harder.}


 

 

 

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13 Feb 2021 22:39:26
Man, I just watched the post match press conference. It actually broke me to see Klopp so emotional. The guy was in tears and is clearly going through it. All things aside these guy has given me some of the best football, best nights and best moments supporting this club. He cares and it actually hurts him seeing what's happening to the club, not helped by going through the loss of his mum. We are all entitled to our opinions as fans, positive or not so. But one thing we can't levy at the manager is his intentions for the club. Yes he is human and makes mistakes but on the whole I would say he has got most things right and we are lucky to have him.

Alonso1786

1.) 13 Feb 2021 22:59:03
OP and you have said, some fans still eat Klopp gone.


2.) 13 Feb 2021 23:08:24
The man is a supporter and manager of Liverpool.
Enough said.


3.) 13 Feb 2021 23:10:36
Absolutely agree, never doubt Klopp’s committment. I’m sure this is an incredibly difficult time for him, professionally and personally. The team really need our support now more than ever. I can’t understand what is happening them at the moment, but they do need our support.


4.) 14 Feb 2021 00:04:45
Absolutely spot on mate. I think it’s safe to say we’ve all struggled through out this and the players are only humans themselves. Klopps going through a really hard time on a personal level.

Regardless of what happens this season I think he’s earned the right to have a fresh start next season. It was only 8 years ago we had Ngog, Poulsen, Konchesky. The success we’ve had recently is solely down to Klopp.

I think fingers should also be pointed at FSG for not strengthening while we were on top, especially after we won the UCL we should of got some real quality in rather than bodies.


5.) 14 Feb 2021 02:54:40
The man has one of the most pressured jobs in football, at a time when fans have never expected so much. We've been unlucky and are in one of the clubs worst runs in years. Then on top of this the mans mother dies, he must be really really low at the minute and probably will be 4 some time. Of course now you'll see the posts of support from fans whereas there should never have been anything else! People forget quickly, he turned us into believers, and has given me my best times ever supporting this club. To see this man getting pounced on by little weasels in aftermatch interviews disgusts me.


6.) 14 Feb 2021 08:05:42
JH, I fully agree. I have never stopped believing in this man who took the job when no one else would at the time. We were a true basket case at the time under BR and STILL he took us in, not the other way around. He could have had any other job at the time YET he chose to come to us. The worst thing is that he cannot even take time off to grieve his loss properly so he carries it in his heart in something as useless as a football game in comparison. And I absurd the players feel for him but cannot grieve with him cos they have their own issues to deal with. A true calamity, really.

Any LFC fan out there who is Klopp out or questions his committment to our cause despite all that we have experienced under him had better go get their heads checked. I will never stop believing in this man and these players cos they have given me the best years of my LFC supporting life. And to the haters and trolls out there: We don’t care what you think about us. You hate us cos you AIN’T us. JK is ours and we love him and NO, you can’t have him. YNWA!


7.) 14 Feb 2021 08:13:59
As Liverpool fans we should realise the loss of Virgil, Gomez and Matip has rocked this side, would Allison have done what he had done leading up to the second goal if a combination of those 3 are playing in the 2 Centre Backs spots? This has removed Hendo and Fabs from our midfield which is the engine room of this team, the sloppy passing and going for the impossible pass has not been new but Hendo and Fabs have been able to win the ball back to go again and when the passing is with intent that is when we have destroyed teams.

Redmen must regroup, not blame any one person but take the situation as it is, we have not lost the league this year we have had it snatch from us with injuries. Yes other teams have had injuries but no one has had their first XI impacted like us. This season has probably been the worst advert for the EPL, the amount of games played with the number of injuries has provided a very poor spectacle of football and I cannot see it improving with Euro's, AFCON and World Cup coming up over the next 2 years when will these players get a rest?


 

 

11 Feb 2021 11:00:00
Ed1, would like to get your opinion on the centre back pairing for this weekend if you're free. Phillips has done well in my opinion, has not put a foot wrong. However, I feel against Leicester, their pace in the forwards might prove an issue for Phillips. I'm leaning towards Davies, who is meant to have decent turn of pace alongside Kabak. That's with Hendo and Fab just in front of them of course. How would like us to set up?

Alonso1786

{Ed001's Note - it doesn't matter how quick the defender is, if he plays against Vardy he will get caught at some point by a run. I would be happy with Phillips, who will always give himself a start and so is less likely to be caught out by pace. I am not in a position to judge the 2 noobs, so I don't mind which partners Phillips.}


1.) 11 Feb 2021 11:56:25
Fair point Ed1. I know that pace is not everything and positional awareness makes up for that. Like I said Phillips hasn’t done anything wrong to lose his place so him alongside Kabak I’m more than happy with. Plus Fab and Hendo screening provides that extra protection. Actually looking forward to the game on Saturday. Thiago will be allowed to play his game and not have get involved with last ditch tackles near our goal.


2.) 11 Feb 2021 12:52:43
Ed your comment about Phillips giving a player space so he doesn’t get done for pace, do you think this could be why klopp doesn’t seem to like him? As we seem very intent on the high line?

{Ed001's Note - but that is what van Dijk did too when at his best. You don't have to drop deep to give them space. You only need to make sure you are between them and the goal when the opposition has the ball and to drop off when one of their player has the ball with no pressure on them. We continued to play a high line with Phillips in the side.}


3.) 11 Feb 2021 13:08:51
I would start with Phillips and whichever of the new boys who has impressed the most in training. Get the midfield back to normal, Hendo, Fab and Thiago. Although I wouldn’t be disappointed if Curtis showed up. Mind you I would also play myself up front so I wouldn’t trust me.


4.) 11 Feb 2021 13:16:32
Ed, it seems to me that Phillips is kind of a throw back defender. He isn't the fastest, but he is good in the air, knows how to tackle, hard nosed, and generally positions himself very well. Why in your opinion doesn't Klopp play him more?

{Ed001's Note - because Klopp wants to dominate the ball as the next step in improving the team. Phillips is just not good enough on the ball for Klopp's liking.}


5.) 11 Feb 2021 14:11:17
We need to change something, this Henderson Fabinho thing isn’t working at all. Whack the new boys in, we keep losing every game anyway.


6.) 11 Feb 2021 14:41:40
Ta Ed.

{Ed001's Note - very welcome.}


7.) 11 Feb 2021 15:15:18
From memory, Vardy’s goal record against Liverpool pre-Van Dijk was impressive, he scored regularly.
When Van Dijk and Gomez / Matip got together, his goals dried up and I can’t recall him scoring since?
He utilised his own pace extremely well and I personally don’t want to see Phillips on the pitch against Leicester, the Ed’s points accepted too.
I’d be surprised if Phillips is picked for this one.


8.) 11 Feb 2021 15:53:08
Is Phillips that bad on the ball though? Granted he's no Van Dijk but who would expect him to be. First and foremost he seems like a good defender and someone who gets in good positions particularly defending set pieces. But he never looked incapable on the ball to me.


9.) 11 Feb 2021 16:46:46
Tbf, I thought Phillips was okay on the ball in his last couple of appearances on us. Played a couple of decent switches out to Robbo and was generally a lot quicker and more comfortable getting his head up than he'd been earlier in the season. He's maybe not the best for threading a ball between the lines, but he certainly showed he had more than a 5 yard pass in him.


10.) 11 Feb 2021 18:32:33
Exactly my thoughts SR. He's clearly not going to be a world class ball playing CB but as a back up I think he's more than able.


11.) 11 Feb 2021 19:53:19
Klopp does not fancy Phillips cos he is not good enuff on the ball or may not have the pace he would like. I understand it BUT to me, that ship has sailed.

I personally think, it is not an issue if Phillips can read the game well and make sure he is between the forward and the goal cos in the end, that is where the forward wants to go. We will see what happens BUT I think two of the CB's should play now and get a relationship going. This whole Fab/ Hendo CB partnership has run its course, in my book.


12.) 11 Feb 2021 21:05:31
Bledd85, no one is comparing Phillips to VVD. The debate is whether Klopp fancies him based on the way Klopp wants his CB's to play and since he is lacking certain attributes like quality on the ball and pace, those are the sticking points for Klopp.


13.) 12 Feb 2021 09:32:05
Phillips reads the game well and his awareness of what’s going on around him is good. He lacks pace, but his intelligence to read situations offsets that. The only thing is he’s not the most technical gifted, but so what? Fabinho and Henderson are good technically gifted players but got roasted by Man City, maybe playing defenders who can defend and our best midfielders in midfield would have prevented that situation from occurring? I’d go Phillips and Kabak.


14.) 12 Feb 2021 10:03:54
I like Phillips, type of guy you can tell puts his head down in training, doesn't get bitter about playtime and just tries to give it his all. I do want it to work out for him at Liverpool as he is not a bad backup option.


15.) 12 Feb 2021 13:11:25
given the crisis, I think guys like Phillips and Davies who are a bit like journeymen but also around mid-20s and are motivated to prove themselves, should be thrown in. Phillips did a job against Son and it was like Son wasn't even playing. I'd like Phillips to play.


 

 

07 Feb 2021 19:42:41
Question for Ed666. Do you think Klopp will start with two defenders from here on out?

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{Ed0666's Note - absolutely mate. I think he messed up royally today by playing Hendo and Fab in defense. They didn’t have forwards with electric pace bar Sterling and played with midfielders I honestly thought Kabak and Philips could have done a job. But that’s all immaterial now. But to answer you’re question I think you’ll see a more traditional team in the future.


1.) 08 Feb 2021 08:11:02
The shackles are off now, IMO. Time for the new CBs to earn their wages. I had hoped Klopp would play slabak and Fab in defence but can understand why he did not put Kabzk in cos he prolly did not want to throw him into the deep end in case he drowns and ruins his confidence cos remember, he is still a kid.

That said, I thought we were well in the game from start to that wild moment when AB’s head went and they only had one shot on target till that point which was job done by the defence, IMO. Anyway, the title was going to b tough anyway with all the issues we have do time to unleash the digs of war and go for top 4 and the CL. You never know, you know?


 

 

07 Feb 2021 15:55:26
Positive about today but don't understand why we went for both Hendo and Fab at the back. Surely we should have gone with one of them alongside Kabak or Phillips. Fab or/ and Hendo are needed in the centre of the park. That being said hopefully we take the game to them and get the 3 points.

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1.) 07 Feb 2021 16:05:07
We’ve not been able to take the game to anybody the last 4 home games so I wouldn’t hold your breath, so disappointed with that line up.


2.) 07 Feb 2021 16:06:07
Phillips must be scratching his head wondering what he's got to do. The lad hasn't put a foot wrong when he's played.


3.) 07 Feb 2021 16:10:38
I'm more hopeful than positive.


4.) 07 Feb 2021 16:14:17
It really is quite sinple, Klopp is not satisfied with Phillips’ ball playing ability.


5.) 07 Feb 2021 16:29:02
That's why you play him alongside Fab or Hendo. Gomez isn't exactly a wizard in the ball either.


6.) 07 Feb 2021 16:31:51
If city walk over us klopp really has to question his tactics.


7.) 07 Feb 2021 17:38:47
They’ll be game over then. We don’t look like scoring and they look like scoring whenever they attack,


8.) 07 Feb 2021 18:31:09
Nat can defend though.

Nat playing means the captain can be in the middle.

Nat, like Jamie C, doesn't miss a short pass. Might not be Alonso-esc with the ball but ultimately he's a defender and at central defence it's a handy trait to have.


9.) 07 Feb 2021 18:45:28
Only positive is it surely can’t get any worse.


10.) 07 Feb 2021 19:02:06
He left out Phillips cos he thought he'd be picked off by City's movement and obviously doesn't feel Davies and Kabak have had enough preparation time on the training ground yet.

I don't agree with it personally, the loss of Hendo and Fabs from the midfield outweighs those concerns for me, but I'd imagine that's what his thinking was.


11.) 07 Feb 2021 20:06:16
Well atleast hendo and Fab didn't get picked off by the exact same thing!


12.) 07 Feb 2021 18:39:18
At some point Klopp’s stubborn refusal to put round pegs in round holes has to abate. We are not winning with the square pegs (Hendo and Fab) so lose with defenders playing, at least they get experience. VAR combined with poor team selection are making this season a tough watch but sadomasochistically we will carry on.


 

 

23 Jan 2021 15:07:47
What's everybody's thoughts on the inevitable rebuild that will take place in the next few years. Salah is 29 in June, Mane 29 in April and Firmino is 30 in October.

Out of the three our most sellable asset is probably Salah. Although Firmino out of the three should be the first to be phased out but we are not exactly blessed with a lot of money to spend big on a striker, which puts us in a predicament. Start the rebuild now whilst Salah's stock is still high and sell him to bring in the cash to challenge for the likes of Haaland or players of that calibre that can replicate or at least come close to his numbers.


Jota is a replacement for Mane but has some improvement on his all round game to reach his level but confident he can get there. Elliot if he progresses and fulfils his potential can be a replacement on the other side. We would need a clinical finisher in the middle who can produce 20+ goals on a consistent basis and for me that's Haaland, although Ed2 has said interest currently is elsewhere with Chelsea being one of the teams.

A potential sell of Salah would go some way to funding such a move. Only issue we would run into is C.V. and the financial climate in football would make it hard to find a buyer at the price we probably would seek. If the likes of Chelsea see themselves as potentially being able to do a deal, then surely recent League, World and European champions would also be an attractive prospect.

We don't want to be reactive to the situation and find ourselves trying to move on the front three at the same time with little to no resale value in say, 2/ 3 years time.

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1.) 23 Jan 2021 15:31:55
I’d imagine the same teams who would be interested in Salah would also have the younger Haaland on their list as well. Don’t get me wrong I’d love Haaland but we don’t go into bidding wars with the other big clubs as our owners wouldn’t win a bidding war. Apart from Thiago all our other players were bought from the non so called elite clubs. Yes we got Mane and Vvd ahead of Utd and city but that was down to Klopp and them wanting to play for Liverpool. Unfortunately if it’s bidding wars with the big boys we will always come off 2nd best.


2.) 23 Jan 2021 16:39:40
Pretty sure, the rebuild was already in place before CV messed things up. Werner was supposed to b the guy to come in and freshen up the attack but we got Jota instead. Minamino was also part of that thinking and the jury is still out in him, IMO. I think that is still a work in progress.

As for the midfield, Thiago was brought in to add creativity and with Gini on his last legs and Naby not up to it, Jones was drafted in with prolly a midfielder or or two to come in and freshen things up. Would take Bisouma tmrw.

As for the CB’s, we may need to get a couple in if possible cos not just for depth, no one really knows how Big Joe and VVD will come back from their injuries as it could take a while for them to get back to anywhere near where they were before their injuries occurred. Just my two cents worth.


3.) 23 Jan 2021 17:15:32
On paper its pretty easy for me.
We have has these players for 4 years together now and two of them may need to be sold this summer and my picks are salah and mane.
Four other players id actively look to sell are ox, matip, keita and origi with milner and gini leaving.

Mane has been replaced by jota
I will get sancho to replace salah.
And from the money i get for mane i want one from lautaro martinez or depay.
If we sell all 4 and with milner and gini of the books i might add want a defender one of the sevilla lads and a midfielder in pedro goncalves from sporting lisbon.

Its a doable list but we need to sell both mane and salah for this rebuild.
Or we keep them here for life and win more trophies. I am pretty sure all three will be here with us till 2024.


4.) 23 Jan 2021 17:44:15
Based on the contract renewal rumors going around, the club seems to prioritise giving the spine of the team (VVD, Fab, ALisson etc) new long term contracts while there is no news regarding contract negotiations for our ageing forward line and some of the surplus players like Keita, Ox etc.
It seems Alisson, VVD, Fabinho, TAA and Robbo are the only untouchables that the club seem desperate to keep. The rest (with 2 or less years left on their contracts after the summer) are probably all available for sale at the right price.
So its kinda obvious which assets the club is willing to get rid off to raise money.
Out of the forward line btw, Mane is the only indispensable player imo. I would not sweat over any of the others (Salah, Bobby, Origi, Shaq) moving on at this point.


 

 

 

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Can only speak for myself but my appendix was removed the same night. Although I did leave the pain for some days before deciding to go to the GP. Quick examination and the GP was calling my local hospital. Made my way to the hospital and was operated on that night. If he had bad appendicitis, he would have been operated on over the weekend so very much doubt the news is correct. Plus it would have been in the media by now.

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18 Feb 2021 00:37:21
That’s disrespectful to the countless top young managers applying their trade across Europe. Our very own Pep Ljinders for staters. Julian Nagelsmann as a glaring obvious but there are too many to list. Separate sentiment from the equation and do you think Gerrard even though he is doing well in Scotland has done enough to walk straight into the Liverpool job? That’s not to say he won't go onto become a fantastic manager in time but in my opinion it would be a mistake employing him right after Klopp.

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There are far better managers out there than Gerrard.

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01 Feb 2021 23:03:30
Wish him a speedy recovery but the guy is honestly made of tissue paper. I am strangely used to him getting fit for about a month if that then getting injured again for a month or so and repeat cycle.

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31 Jan 2021 16:23:26
Taki cannot get a game for love nor money and feel for the lad. If Origi scores today and we win, well perfect. But it doesn’t excuse the fact he has not been up standard for as long as I can remember. He should be sold this summer to raise much needed funds. Come to think of it, he should have been sold the summer just gone but here we are.

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02 Mar 2021 00:46:49
Shouldn’t we wait judge Thiago with Fab In midfield. Granted he hasn’t played to the levels we know he can but he is playing out of position. Jones deserves to keep his place so that would be my 3 in midfield. Kabak has filled my with zero confidence thus far but he is just a kid, at a new club, in a new country in the worst of circumstances so I can’t really be too harsh on him. Davies is meant to be steady, albeit in the Championship so maybe we should try him alongside Phillips. One thing for sure is Fab should be in midfield at all costs and not in defence but I have a sinking feeling Klopp might play him there on Thursday.

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Mr Ed77, love your work rate. Seen you on our page a lot over the week. Take it Ed1 or Ed666 are on “annual leave” hey. Just a shame you support Man United though. But if you keeping editing on our page at the rate you are, we might be able to overlook that shortcoming 😉.

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25 Feb 2021 22:11:28
If he is going to play keep him but If he is not going to play let him go on loan to a Premiership side. My fear is him sitting on the bench most of next season when he could be playing week in week out at a Premier League side. If he was to go on loan next season I would love it to be at Leeds.

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25 Feb 2021 19:28:46
1985mikey1986. I’m with you on that. Loan to a Premier League side where he is playing week in week out then back to us for the following season. I think the boy is really special so the future is bright.

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