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Team: Liverpool Where from: NZ Favourite player: Suarez Best team moment: The obvious ones stand out but the lads demolishimg apurs at the lane like it was a training day was a nice memory Interests: Timezone: (GMT +12:00) Auckland, Wellington, Fiji, Kamchatka |
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14 Aug 2020 12:15:11
eds - echo quoted a club source who denied that the club had been in contact with bayern regards Thiago. part of the rationale they gave was that the club wouldn't want to pay a transfer fee for a player they could sign for free in a year. my question is, for any club wanting to sign Thiago this year, wouldn't they also negotiate an extension to his current contract? it seems like he wants to leave Bayern now, so if another club picked him sure they would be wanting to have him sign a multi year deal? otherwise what other club would pay a transfer fee for potentially a one year rental!?
{Ed002's Note - Thiago doesn't want to extend his contract. I don't get your point about a one year rental.}
1.) 14 Aug 2020 13:07:48
Once Thiago leaves Bayern he will no longer have a contract with Bayern. He’ll have a new contract at his new club, which I’m sure won’t be for a year. It will be negotiated when Bayern allow somebody to speak to him and it’ll likely be 3-4 years, allowing the buying club to get the remaining top years out of the player and the player to have the chance of extending or leaving for yet another club for one last hurrah, maybe the Middle East, Far East, America or Italy.
By that point he has little resale value, will have declined physically making him less suited to certain ways of playing, will have cost a lot of money in wages and transfer fees and potentially suffered from further injuries which are creeping into his career. Hence why somebody at Liverpool is rightly wary.
2.) 14 Aug 2020 19:39:13
Hi eds, can one of confirm if we are actually in for Thiago or not?
Thanks in advance.
{Ed002's Note - RTFP. I have explained over and over the situation.}
3.) 14 Aug 2020 21:08:07
Evening Ed002 - Are you by any chance asking Redman 1 to listen to the Ross Tucker Football Podcast?
Just a small theory I’m working on 😁.
{Ed002's Note - F on't know what that is so I guess not.}
4.) 14 Aug 2020 23:13:52
ed2 - the question is, if Bayern sell thiago this summer, would the purchasing club also be negotiating a new contract for him that extends beyond the year he has left on his current contract? I'm asking the question because the echo rationale for Liverpool not wanting to buy Thiago is because the club don't want to buy a player whose contract is going to end in a year. I didn't understand their rational as it wouldn't seem to make sense for any club to spend money on a transfer who is going to become a FA in a year. that's the one year rental bit. happens in NBA all the time.
{Ed002's Note - I truly think you are completely confused about transfers. I have no idea what the Echo has said but if Liverpool want the player next year they can legally approach him next January. The length of his contract is unrelated to any club that buys him. So if Liverpool were to buy him they would look for a three to four year deal and would need to pay Bayern Munich an agreed fee.}
5.) 15 Aug 2020 00:24:46
Faithibworks you are after getting confused by what you read.
Whenever somebody transfers to a new club they sign a new contract with that club. What the echo mean is that Liverpool don't see value in spending €30m on a 29 year who could be a free agent in 10/ 11 months if he didn't leave Bayern this summer.
In reality, it seems more likely that Thiago will leave Bayern this summer so then he wouldn't be a free agent in 10/ 11 months. It's a case of which club will pay Bayern about €30m and Thiago to agree a contract with them. or maybe us, we'll have to wait and see.
6.) 15 Aug 2020 06:41:08
right, that's all I was after. Didn't need the carry on. Sean Ireland - I think you are right, I misinterpreted that bit about him being free in a year's time. I understood that for all transfers, the player would sign a new contract, hence the confusion in what I thought I'd read in the echo. Having said that, if Thiago says he wants to leave Bayern for anywhere now, then that would be the rationale to spend money on him this year because he won't be free in 12 months time by virtue of being at another club!
7.) 15 Aug 2020 09:23:11
Exactly ya 👍.
8.) 15 Aug 2020 09:35:14
Exactly ya 👍.
9.) 16 Aug 2020 03:16:19
We paid a higher fee to sign AOC when he was into his last year. We got nearly 12 mil for 31 yr old lovren with him available for free next year. 25mil would be good business to get thiago this year, why wait another year and lose out on a season where he could be a key player, this isn't huge money to be saying it can't be a wise investment.
12 Apr 2020 22:38:56
Ed2 - interested if you can share any info about how COVID-19 and its effect on the economy has altered how transfer negotiations are held? For instance, I just read a headline regarding Kane and Spurs holding out for 200mil. I'm not interested in that rumour but in how a normal discussion about transfer fees might be happening now? Can they even discuss figures right now!?
{Ed002's Note - Transfers this summer will split into (a) those already agreed and completed subject to paperwork (e.g. Hakim Ziyech (Ajax to Chelsea), Nicolo Barella (Cagliari to Inter Milan), Alvaro Morata (Chelsea to Atletico Madrid) and Trincao (Braga to Barcelona)); (b) the transfers several cash rich clubs would like to get over the line if possible (e.g. Mbappe, Sanco, Martinez, Pogba, Havertz etc.) although people will try and negotiate reductions in the cost of overall packages (e.g. Sancho); (c) there are the then the higher-profile clubs that will need to horse trade by looking to spread out payments if they can, include players in sales or have the sell to buy (e.g. Inter Milan, Atletico Madrid and Barcelona are good examples; (d) the more run of the mill transfers where players are recruited to gain improvements in the sides, replace retiring and out of contract players etc..
You will certainly see less movement and less spend in the lower tiers as the money won't be there. Many will look to sell a player or two to the higher leagues to keep themselves out of trouble (e.g. Brad Young (G) has a move from Billingham Town to a Premier League side agreed already). And many PL and Championship sides are once again looking at players from the lower tiers.
In terms of transfer fees, we will still see a few very expensive transfers, you will see players having to stay where they are for another year, you will see efforts to reduce overall costs particularly agent fees - and across mainland Europe you will see even more horse trading than normal.}
24 Dec 2018 22:09:31
Merry NZ Christmas! Enjoy a christmas on top of the table in behalf of us downunder and enjoy youraelf another Christmad on top your time!
Let's continue to push the lads on!
1.) 26 Dec 2018 05:45:24
Merry xmas from Cornwallis, West Auckland New Zealand.
2.) 26 Dec 2018 08:11:43
And a Merry Christmas from the Central Coast, NSW, Australia and all the best for 2019.
18 Jul 2018 01:18:31
awesome if we are after allison. He looks confident and assured. to be honest, goalkeeping skills aside, I feel that those kinds of characteristics are missing from our team. we come across a bit of a front-running team that performs at peak when the cards fall our way. be nice to have some guys that ooze class and confidence to play their game no matter what is in front of them. that's also what I like about shaqiri.
keep up the good work everyone. we've been trending in a positive direction for the last couple seasons now, it's really cool to see the growth of this team under Klopp and FSG.
1.) 18 Jul 2018 03:14:21
Its not happening. Another false dawn.
2.) 18 Jul 2018 04:07:42
The Alisson Becker seems too good to be true to me honestly. The club had made some great signings and strides towards the future. However, I find it highly unlikely after Klopp stating that Ward would have an opportunity to be the number 1 keeper. Some of you might say who cares, but that type of rep of not keeping your word can deter players from coming.
I can't see Roma letting their best player go either, especially since they are not under any financial restrictions anymore as when they sold Salah to us. They would not let Becker go with no replacement lined up either.
Why would the club sign another keeper don't we have three on the books already. Four if you include Bogdan even though he is out on loan.
3.) 18 Jul 2018 05:42:07
I think Alisson will be leaving Roma this window regardless. Whether that is to us is a different matter. But I think he wants to go.
4.) 18 Jul 2018 06:04:52
How can people be certain that klopp actually said this to ward and it’s not just paper tosh? How can people be so certain that ward so he’d rather move on and be no1 somewhere else?
People always find something to moan about even when they might finally be getting what they’ve been asking for 🙄.
5.) 18 Jul 2018 06:31:18
HarrytheRed, TBF its not the first time Klopp has lied to one of his players. Seems to be a pretty regular thing.
6.) 18 Jul 2018 06:34:09
Totally agree Faithinworks, the fact that we are making offers for players of this calibre are signs that the club is making massive strides forward in the transfer market. An area in the running of the club that has been a bit doubtful until recently.
If we got Alisson and Fekir, what a fantastic window this will have been. Can't wait to finally see Keita in action too - what a season this could be!
7.) 18 Jul 2018 06:48:24
Harry, this is Monchi we’re talking about.
You really think he won’t sell a GK for £60+ million?
Every player has a price for Monchi. He will definitely sell, it just depends on whether the player can agree with the successful bidder.
Monchi will sell, don’t worry about that.
8.) 18 Jul 2018 07:02:54
Klopp had plenty of previous with telling a player one thing and doing another, Ward is particular already knows about it. Either way, both Karius and Ward now know for sure that Liverpool will replace them if we can, they both know they're replaceable.
9.) 18 Jul 2018 07:14:21
Didn't ED001 confirm contact had been made? If Klopp and FSG weren't serious about wanting the lad, why bother contacting? This isn't a game you know. Karius, Ward and Migs are all still on the books, why upset them even more if you don't think you've got a realistic chance of doing a deal?
10.) 18 Jul 2018 07:17:35
Let’s be honest. lots of players have no loyalty to their managers and clubs either. They say one thing and do another. ( Coutinho! )
11.) 18 Jul 2018 07:40:40
@87Red
Spot. on!
12.) 18 Jul 2018 08:24:06
Surely all managers tell all players they have a chance of playing don’t they? Unless they want to get rid of them. Otherwise the players will have zero motivation.
13.) 18 Jul 2018 08:26:27
The “Ward opportunity to be no. 1” story just seems to be unfounded supposition. There seems to be no attributed or even unattributed source for this, just someone guessing. Until there’s a credible source for this, just ignore.
14.) 18 Jul 2018 09:07:48
Let’s be honest lads do you actually care who plays for the club and doesn’t and how much they cost cos I don’t we could play Kamil grabara in goal next season as long as he performs and the team do well who cares . It’s about the team not the individual . The board have obviously decided that with the keepers we have we aren’t strong enough to compete for the end goal .
Let’s just support the team and club no matter what 👌🏻.
15.) 18 Jul 2018 09:19:03
Dawkins i’m assuming it’s because klopp said he'll play longer than 45 minutes in the next friendly, the media put 2+2 together and got 5 as always lol.
16.) 18 Jul 2018 10:21:04
Brisbane LFC, why are you always so quick to accuse the LFC manager of lying? Please share any actual evidence - not hearsay or gossip - of when he has lied.
17.) 18 Jul 2018 11:15:45
Wirral, cos I don't think klopp is all that and I haven't fallen under his spel like many have.
18.) 18 Jul 2018 11:49:01
Brisbane, fair enough that you don’t rate Klopp but I just think repeatedly calling him a liar is going a bit far without the evidence to back it up. But I wouldn’t like to fall out with a fellow Red over it.
19.) 18 Jul 2018 13:34:18
This is a stupid thread.
26 Feb 2018 17:10:34
regards Jorginho - is that a rumour that has been verified?
Regards any type of player coming in to play that role in midfield. ACE! and honestly, I don't think it would matter who that player is. Anyone who is a little bit more tactically aware and can pass a decent ball will do wonders for the balance of our midfield allowing Hendo, Keita, gini etc to be the legs in the midfield. so whoever that player is, get him in! heck, bring lucas back to play that role!
1.) 27 Feb 2018 12:22:39
Faithinworks, we are looking to move forward with our progression towards trophies, bringing Lucas back in a starting role will hinder that. I trust whoever Klopp picks for midfield will be a great choice, his track record for signings is pretty impressive, he seems to know the exact type of player that suits his system!
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13 Sep 2020 01:03:56
Lol 1 game down, 3 points on the board.
I'm never one to buy into absolute statements after a handful of games let alone one haha
This was a massive banana skin game to start the season and we got out of it with all the chocolates. Happy with that as it could easily have gone the other way.
Looking forward to seeing chelsea next.
25 Aug 2020 13:36:26
heya ed, any ed lol, as we get closer to the Community Shield this week and 'real' football - just wanted to know what the status is for Grujic? Would he be eligible to be named on the match day squad? this is regards to his WP
cheers.
{Ed002's Note - I am not sure that a WP would be an issue before league squads are announced.}
1.) 25 Aug 2020 14:23:23
right, is he able to take the field this weekend?
{Ed002's Note - I assume so.}
2.) 25 Aug 2020 14:49:25
ok cool. doubt he'd make the match day squad, but cool to know that he could take the field if selected. Assume that means whatever WP issues there were are resolved, unless I'm misunderstanding how that impacts whether he can play or not
thanks ed.
{Ed002's Note - If he is to be registered for the season then he will need a WP and Liverpool would need to apply as an exception and not lie to the board again.}
3.) 26 Aug 2020 00:59:06
aha thanks Ed. I kinda hope he gets a run out this weekend. Be nice to see him in a competitive game for the club.
{Ed002's Note - Right but the club are trying to sell him.}
11 Aug 2020 13:18:43
ed2 - question regarding tapping. What are the rules around approaching and giving benefits to the friends and family members of players from other clubs?
{Ed002's Note - There are no rules regarding giving gifts to friends of players and I can't imagine clubs doing it. If a club were to gift families of players to entice the player to move that becomes an issue due to third party interference.}
08 Aug 2020 09:40:24
ed2, the last info I searched regards Grujic's work permit situation was that you said there is no guarantee he will be granted one.
He got a work permit in 2016. do these expire? Is that what you mean by being granted a work permit?
{Ed002's Note - They need to be renewed every year or two years depending on which class is assigned. He got the WP as a result of the assessment committee being lied to.}
1.) 08 Aug 2020 10:21:41
ah k cool thanks.
has he had his WP renewed since 2016? is that partly why we've had to send him on loan?
{Ed002's Note - No, his work permit has not been renewed. He has been on loan because the club did not play him. It was all a disaster.}
2.) 08 Aug 2020 10:25:33
last question on this - can you please remind what the lie to the committee was?
thanks ed.
{Ed002's Note - I don't really want to open all of this up again.}
3.) 08 Aug 2020 12:10:13
hi ed2, sorry couple more questions around how the renewal work for mor established overseas players like VVD, David Silva etc who sign long term contracts?
Given that the work permit is renewed every 1 or 2 years is it just a given that the club takes this risk on that a work permit may not be renewed through the course of a 3+ year contract?
and, can overseas players earn residency in the UK that then makes the work permit irrelevant? I'm imagining for someone like David Silva may have become permanent resident after 5 years at City so that takes precedence
thanks ed!
{Ed002's Note - Normally they would be renewed without an issue. If there is an issue (such as a player not speaking English) they will get one year and and they will be back to see if it can be renewed. Players do not become residents.}
4.) 08 Aug 2020 13:08:14
ed002 does he play for Serbia more now since we signed him if so would that help his WP or does it not matter. Am not sure how it works now since we have left the EU and have the new WP rules come in yet. Thanks again ed.
{Ed002's Note - That is not the issue.}
5.) 09 Aug 2020 07:34:46
If Liverpool can offload Grujic for anything over 20 million it would not be such a disaster, thinks positive thoughts Ed002!
6.) 09 Aug 2020 11:11:08
KC, I don't think we would get that much for Grujic esp. during a transfer window shrouded under the C. V C.V. that is crippling clubs in Europe. Just my opinion.
7.) 09 Aug 2020 12:59:31
I very rarely watch Bundesliga. So question to all the posters on here who do. How well has Grujic actually done in Germany and do you think he could be a part of this squad going forward if given another chance?
31 Jul 2020 14:04:19
ed2 - are you able to share figures, or just the areas where Liverpool can expect to lose revenue over the coming financial year? I recall you said they may have to pay back some revenue already earned, was that for TV money?
anyways, I know you don't like talking money, but if you wouldn't mind that be great to understand what the financial realities are for the club.
cheers.
{Ed002's Note - The issues are NOW.}
1.) 31 Jul 2020 21:14:29
Ok, rephrase to can you share figures or areas where Liverpool are losing revenue NOW.
Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - Yes, match day revenue.}
2.) 01 Aug 2020 06:32:18
I was lead to believe that for the top clubs, match day revenue was a rather small percentage of income. Hence the lack of fan power influence in this day and age. Perhaps not so much.
23 Sep 2020 06:20:35
Before we signed Thiago, I was sure that we had to sell Gini and probably Grujic to make space. Before Jota, I would have thought we'd need to move on one or two from the attacking trio before we brought one in.
I am sure there will be sales, but I am now taking a wait and see approach to any future incomings.
17 Sep 2020 11:55:27
kit - how is brewster going to get a real opportunity to show his wares? He is in the unenviable position where he isn't good enough or the right fit to start regularly for us, and he is also probably isn't good enough to bang in goals coming off the bench for us to show that he is capable. I think the best move for him is to another club, I was just hoping it'd be a loan.
17 Sep 2020 11:53:50
sell gini / grujic / wilson, buy sarr
window done.
16 Sep 2020 10:48:55
25, if we still have origi then the 6 points he'll secure us vs your lot might be crucial mate :D.
{Ed025's Note - divock is, and will always be a last gasp option faith, and we are a lot stronger now so dont bank on that mate.. :)
10 Sep 2020 22:30:04
I thought this guy had an agreement with manU?
28 Sep 2020 08:42:15
Adrian is a more than capable backup. Got us started on our run to the title.
28 Sep 2020 08:25:41
the alternative is going back to old rule, which was really clear.
in all seriousness, I like it. They need to find a way to make it objective as possible. It may be a little too liberal, but as long as it's adjudicated consistently, then I don't see the issue with awarding penalties for these handballs.
28 Sep 2020 08:17:54
players get injured. even if the same player misses a few games here and there I'd be more concerned about chronic injury / fitness issues.
27 Sep 2020 02:43:54
yeah I been saying this for years. They could use indirect free kicks for the ones that look incidental. thing is tho, it would just change the narrative into a different issue. we'd be talking about the inconsistency of when pens are awarded vs indirect free kicks.
26 Sep 2020 19:32:00
Dorchester- bear in mind these haters are probably the ones that cast same doubt over liverpool on a similar run and probably still hate on FSG every year even when the team is lifting trophies.