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16 Dec 2023 21:25:36
Thoughts and prayers with Luton's captain tonight.

May you come back stronger Lockyer.





16 Dec 2023 21:23:45
Quick conspiracy theory question.

Newcastle injury problems have been well documented lately. and given that they have played so many games over a short period of time, is anyone really surprised that Fulham had a player sent off so early in their game today?

This is a Fulham side that is scoring for fun in their last 2 games.

I hate that these conspiracy theories are even being mentioned, but where there's smoke there is fire.


1.) 16 Dec 2023 23:11:10
Probably got sent off for nearly taking the Newcastle players head off to be fair!

2.) 17 Dec 2023 01:03:13
There is no conspiracy theory unless of course someone has paid Jimenez to jump head height and smash into the oppo player with his hip.

3.) 17 Dec 2023 09:05:37
If you hate that conspiracy theories are being mentioned why bring up one of the least likely and most ludicrous of all?

4.) 17 Dec 2023 13:14:02
Yeah, it’s something you apparently believe but just want to add a layer of protection by claiming it’s a CT. If it is back it with all your will and hecklers be dammed! Ask ed 33

(15 year-or-so daily user of this and talk sense forgot my dammed log in info)

5.) 17 Dec 2023 19:07:22
Yeah hip bone on skull bone could be nasty and Jimenez should know better than anyone. If someone did that to you in the street I'm pretty sure it would be considered an assault.




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16 May 2024 17:00:17
To get rid of VAR or not.

For me. just go look at the penalty decisions that Newcastle weren't given last night not the penalty that Brighton weren't given.

Yes the ref missed them. but why didn't VAR send the officials to the monitor

Another 2 scandalous decisions if you ask me. everyone and their dog says it's a penalty, except for VAR

Yes, the problem is those who are using it, but if they are going to get these calls wrong, then VAR must go. there is no point holding onto a system that can be brilliant, but is never used properly.


1.) 16 May 2024 17:1
I think the nail was in the coffin after the Diaz incident, it’s not improving and if anything, it’s getting way worse.

2.) 16 May 2024 21:46:43
We keep going around in circles on this. We know why VAR didn’t intervene and it’s because of the application of a clear and obvious error.

They need to amend that bit to give more rope to the VAR to intervene and for the ref to review their own decisions.

3.) 17 May 2024 09:54:08
JLC, you are making a case as to why VAR does not work in England whereas in other places and other comps., the system works a whole lot better. It's the people that need to get replaced, not the tch. which works.

Take the last AFCON, for ex. The VAR's have the power to call the ref. as soon as he misses something. The game was stopped and the check is happening. If they determine like they need him to come to the screen, they will tell him and he makes the screen/ VAR sign and Majority if not always all the time, the process worked cos everything was transparent.

The one time I saw where the decision was not "clear and obvious" to overrule and went to VAR the decision on the pitch, the on-field decision stood and NOBODY complained. Why? After multiple angles, they could not tell if the player handled the ball or used his chest hence, not enuff evidence to overturn it. Why? Cos there was transparency

That is why VAR was hailed a a huge success at the AFCON cos it was implemented correctly. Now the PL can do this as well, if they wanted BUT instead, they use "clear and obvious" to protect themselves and their feelings. See the difference now? .



03 May 2024 08:01:50
Someone please help me understand why Chelsea's 1st goal was allowed to stand?

Cucrella CLEARLY impedes the Spurs defender, who WOULD have challenged Challobah for the ball. so why doesn't VAR now step in and give the same call it gave us against Chelsea in the Cup Final

I just don't understand it at times. this cannot be called incompetence. it just cannot!


1.) 03 May 2024 08:43:44
Cucrella was not offside when he did this.
Endo was offside when he did this and that is the difference.

2.) 03 May 2024 09:50:30
What does offside have to do with it though?

He impeded the player - fair challenge? No, so why would it matter if you are onside or offside if you foul or impede another player?

Just don't get it.

3.) 03 May 2024 11:04:07
The last couple posts have shown a glaring lack of understanding of the game.

Offside player - can't intervene at all.

Onside player - can intervene within discretion of what a foul is and the refs discretion.

It’s not illegal to block players.

{Ed001's Note - it is if you move to block them, then it is impeding. If you are just stood still and they run into you, then that is fine.}

4.) 03 May 2024 11:14:34
The call against Chelsea was that Endo was offside because his interference made him an active player who was offside when the ball was played, in the same way that a player standing in front of the keeper can be offside. Cucu not being offside means it cannot be given offside. It's as simple as that.

5.) 03 May 2024 13:35:13
Happens in every game several times in any game up and down the Leagues. Of course it’s a foul but refs rarely give them unless you’re pulled to the ground and even then it’s not certain. Back in the day the Italians used to just concentrate on the player and not even care where the ball was ?‍♂️.

6.) 03 May 2024 15:28:49
If the goal has been disallowed for a foul it would have been the softest foul in the history of the game.

7.) 03 May 2024 18:31:37
One was offside the other wasn’t. Pretty simple.

8.) 03 May 2024 18:39:10
Football will become like netball soon and fans will want players using pronouns after their names for interviews.

9.) 03 May 2024 19:12:28
The problem is more and more teams are using blockers and no ones sure when it becomes a foul. Some teams are 'clever' at set piece's were others foul.

10.) 03 May 2024 19:24:59
for sure and the ref can determine that but I’m not sure many refs will interpret that as a player completely stood still. We use blockers like many teams and it comes down to the ref. But to the OP’s dilemma the difference for them is the offside means the offside player basically has to impede no one in any way right cos they’re offside. They basically have to make themselves invisible lol.



25 Apr 2024 07:07:39
I just wanted to congratulate Ed25 on his victory last night.

It's a pleasure to have helped you lot stay in PL. I admit it wouldn't be the same without you

As for us. I'm starting to worry that we might even lose out on top 4 right now.

Klopp looks lost and the players seem to have downed tools. Recipe for disaster

It's going to be a tough and nervy end of the season for us.


{Ed025's Note - you just never turned up JLC, you did have some good chances mind but your confidence looks shot, Liverpool will finish top 3 im sure of that mate but we all know it could and should have been so much better..

1.) 25 Apr 2024 07:27:13
To miss out on top four spurs realistically have to win all their games, they may beat us but they won’t beat both city and Arsenal.

If you look at the season purely as a result, top four and a trophy we’d have bitten your hand off in August. However we had hope of winning the lot and now it’s going to end on a flat note.

Really starting to question if there are any leaders in that dressing room as they should of spurred the team on after losing in the fa cup. Instead we have wilted, it’s like the mentality was 4 or nothing. A real shame to see klopps final season end like this but it’s been one hell of a ride.

And ed025 your boys simply wanted it more last night, you must be on cloud 9 this morning. Now excuse me, I’m off to live under a rock until next season starts.

{Ed025's Note - i was dreading it WYred but we bullied you mate and you ran out of ideas in the end mate, still a good season for the reds i feel ...but it could have been so much more..

2.) 25 Apr 2024 07:29:42
JLC I’ll be honest mate making such a suggestion that LFC players have downed tools for Klopp would usually be blasphemy.

But the truth is if we took off our red tinted glasses and watched last night and last few weeks as a neutral and it was another club with another manager I know my conclusion Would be it looks like they’ve downed tools (lost the dressing room etc) .

Klopp should be going out on his shield but currently he’s going out with a whimper.

Finishing above Spurs and Villa isn’t quite as nailed on as we imagined. Especially as we have both still to play.

{Ed025's Note - the fall out from last night may just be the kick up the arse you needed JK, you will easily make top 4 mate..

3.) 25 Apr 2024 07:40:00
I don't think the players have downed tools. Like Ed said, they are just lacking belief and confidence. I do agree that Klopp and his coaching team looks lost and can't seem to turn this around.

Personally, I feel that we are already out of the title race after last night's results. A bit of a downer after what was expected to be Klopp's farewell. Nonetheless, I would still wish for us to go all out for the last four games and get the maximum number of points still available.

4.) 25 Apr 2024 07:40:41
I cannot see us beting west ham, villa and Spurs. how are you so confident we will get a top 4 place ED025? Villa themselves are aiming for a CL spot and as is Spurs.

{Ed025's Note - because you are a better side mate, they will be more scared of you than you are of them, of course you will have to buck your ideas up but they are too far behind to be a real threat..

5.) 25 Apr 2024 07:40:45
We won't lose top four but I'm struggling to see the leaders in our side, at the minute. VVD and Mac, maybe but after that?
I never thought I'd be saying this but Gomez has to come in at right back against West Ham; at least until Bradley is back.
TAA is good enough to build a team around but not in the system or with the players we have.
I'd also consider playing Salah through the middle but only because of a lack of options and to get him closer to the goal.

{Ed025's Note - i would leave Salah out altogether Rigsby, he looks shot mate and has not been the same since the AFCON, great player of course but contributing very little at the moment im afraid..

6.) 25 Apr 2024 08:08:10
I forgot spurs had City and Arsenal to play to be honest.

Bit that tells a story that we are confident of getting top 4 because Spurs won’t over our capabilities.

Even dropping below Villa now will be seen as failure in my eyes.

And anyone who argues that it’s not I’ll just counter argue that a week ago we were going for the title in a 3 horse race so to then finish 4th can’t be seen as anything else.

7.) 25 Apr 2024 08:08:19
I'd leave him out, too, Ed025 but with Jota injured that only leaves Nunez whose confidence also looks shot. I can't have Gakpo there and I don't know whether Danns is ready to start on the run we are having.
It may be wishful thinking but get Salah through the middle, hope he takes a chance and finds some form.

{Ed025's Note - i would actually play Danns there Rigsby, yes hes still a bit raw but the guy has talent mate, lets be honest he cant do any worse than mo at the moment..

8.) 25 Apr 2024 08:39:25
Congrats Ed 25, reckon you guys will be safe now. Regarding this been the kick up the arse we needed, I was hoping Atalanta and Palace would have been enough of a wake up call. Hope we can put in some good performances before the season is out, at least finish playing some exciting football.

{Ed025's Note - with the announcement of the new manager it will give the team a bit of a boost i think Mic, mind you i thought with Klopp leaving it would have had a similar effect mate..

9.) 25 Apr 2024 08:41:28
Then they will argue "if you told me at the start of the season" lol.

10.) 25 Apr 2024 09:04:11
The way we’re playing we could easily end the season and not win another game and finish behind both Spurs and Villa. Fulham were on the beach already, and we looked like that against Everton last night. Poor performance, no fight, too many mistakes.

11.) 25 Apr 2024 09:44:28
Players very rarely ‘down tools’. Not often do footballers consciously decide they can’t be bothered. Don’t like that phrase being used so liberally.

No, what this looks like is a group of players who have lost all confidence in what the manager is telling them to do. We have powered through this season on enthusiasm and vibes but when that runs out you need a solid way of playing that you can fall back on.

You can’t go back to basics if you don’t know what the basics are. We have routinely conceded first all season long. It is unforgiveable and we have got away with it for ages. When you have a knock in confidence like in the United cup game, you need to have some solidity to depend upon, a base to work from.

We don’t have that. The system is stupid and leaves us vulnerable. We never feel in control. That puts pressure on our forwards who, as we can see, are not good enough to deal with that pressure. So begins the vicious cycle; concede baffling goals at one end, balloon chance after chance at the other, heads drop, we lose/ draw, rinse and repeat. This is a psychologically draining way to approach football matches week after week.

The players are a reflection of the manager and his coaches. Fed up, checked out, mentally exhausted, but most of all lacking faith in what they are doing. The management don’t have any answers or impetus to provide those answers, and the players can feel it.

If people want to refer to it as ‘something behind the scenes’, whatever that means, i think that’s all it is. Nothing sinister, just a manager and coaches who have run their course and can’t take this group any further.

12.) 25 Apr 2024 10:00:53
Didn't Spurs recently get beat 4 nil at Newcastle?

JK, my counter argument to yours is that if top four was the target at the beginning of the season, isn't fourth- or even third- a success?
My argument is based on me never thinking we'd win the League anyway.
City and Arsenal had better squads than we did last season and they added to them whereas we had to rebuild the midfield and brought in Endo, Szob and Grav. None of which would regularly play for either of them.

13.) 25 Apr 2024 10:37:35
Doesn’t every team down tools against City though?

Or is the accusation they roll over for them not as condemning as downing tools.

Either way it’s the same outcome.

14.) 25 Apr 2024 11:06:15
Rigsby absolutely mate the target at the start of the season was finishing top 4.

But targets move and evolve as the season goes on.

A month ago we were in a 3 horse race so to finish 4th would surely be deemed as a failure.

If we finish 3rd then not so much.

If we win our next game and results go our way I doubt you would ne happy if we forfeited the last 3 games as our target that we set 9 months ago had been met.



20 Apr 2024 18:39:53
Away from our current issues. but how has it become so obvious that City are so favored by the officials?

Please can someone explain how Grealish gets away with the handball call in the fa cup semi final?

That's a penalty all day, every day, at every level, men or women, kids or adults.

There is absolutely no way that City getbthese favorable calls.


1.) 20 Apr 2024 20:56:04
It's the same ref helping them. That tells you all you need to know.

2.) 20 Apr 2024 21:38:10
It’s corruption by the league and fa, causing big story’s…. Same reason they penalise Everton and forest but leaving city well alone with their 115 so called charges, becoming a farce.

3.) 20 Apr 2024 21:48:27
You get what you pay for Leelad, and the City owners paid Michael Oliver a lot of money for that “refereeing job” in the UAE.

4.) 21 Apr 2024 14:41:31
Is it because they have no fans so they are easier to handle during semi-finals and finals for the police? Probably saves money on crowd control too. Chelsea where the better side on the day unfortunately, I spoke it out loud when City got the winner that evil somehow always seems to come out on top in most cases. Especially in the modern world I doubt we would win a world war in this day and age as the enemy would just pay our leaders to throw in the towel. Money talks and is the root of all evil.



14 Mar 2024 05:47:33
I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned on here so I'll ask the question.

What the (. ) is up with Kyle Walker and Sky airing that interview where Walker praises the ref Oliver in how he handled the LVC vs City match.

Has anyone ever seen anything like this before?

How is this type of thing even allowed. it just smacks of pure bias and entitlement.


1.) 14 Mar 2024 07:44:31
I dunno but I thought his “great” defending got exposed for what it really is - great recovery pace. The actual defending bit got found out multiple times.

{Ed001's Note - I never knew anyone considered him a great defender. I have always read comments about how he is crap just incredibly quick. Even back when he was at Spurs. I can't believe anyone considers him to be a top class defender.}

2.) 14 Mar 2024 08:52:57
Apart from Gareth. He seems to rate him.

3.) 14 Mar 2024 09:22:54
Ed1, Rio Ferdinand called him the best RB in PL history in his own podcast or whatever online show he did few days ago. Talk about delusional.

{Ed001's Note - Rio is a moron. Great defender in his day, but he is clueless. Walker isn't even the best right-back in Spurs' or City's PL history ffs.}

4.) 14 Mar 2024 09:29:55
And Paul Merson, who thinks England are odds-on favourites to win the Euros.

To be fair Merson probably stumbled across a lost cache of personality powder. Southgate doesn’t have that excuse in his locker.

5.) 14 Mar 2024 10:10:17
JLC, I think they did the interview to get clicks and reactions from the fans and online likes. And even in the interview, Walker in his body language awhen he was asked about the pen incident, looked so uneasy and tentative and then, the nonsensical praise comes out his mouth. You could tell he himself didn't believe the dust he was spouting.

The fact that anyone ever thought that Walker is a good defender is a problem in it of itself cos that guy is absolutely crap. ot his (and has been getting) his arse handed to him by Diaz and frankly, by any other wide man with the guts to go at him all season and not surprised at all. Take his pace away and trust me, not sure he would even have a career, IMO.

6.) 14 Mar 2024 12:07:17
He wasn’t the best right back on Sunday.

7.) 14 Mar 2024 12:12:12
I give up with listening to what anyone has to say or at least taking any notice of them. Not one of these pundits is impartial and Sky Sports is owned by Manchester Utd. Yesterday Sky Sports spent all day banging on about Mainoo hopefully being able to play for England. He is nowhere near good enough for that yet and would be back of a long Queue of players. If only there was a channel you could just watch the match and cut out all the pathetic waffle. So Sky own Man Utd and Man City use oil bribes to stay relevant.

As a Liverpool you should really have learnt by now that no one wants us to succeed and any success will be swept under the carpet ASAP so outlets can focus on Man Utd. We as a club are a true case of us against the world something Klopp has had to learn the hard way in many cases but ultimately embrace the hate and turn it back on the haters ten fold.

My advice would be to not take any notice of these agenda driven media outlets as they will try to turn fact into fiction for the purpose of entertainment and viewing figures. Journalism is a dead format in any form in the modern world as it will always be twisted to suit the narrative preferred by the sponsored media agency. Know what you see and believe and ignore all other noise as just that noise. On a side note that Shay Given is a tool isn’t he how does he get on TV anyway he was a tragic player and is an even more tragic human being.

8.) 15 Mar 2024 02:54:37
Point taken regarding Walker but Rashford literally just gave up against him so he can't be that bad.




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03 Jul 2024 07:52:16
Slot talking directly to a player.
Taking a leaf out of Klopps book re tapping up players





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18 May 2024 08:43:03
Really. taking notice of something written in CaughtOffSide is shameful.




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03 May 2024 15:48:42
If you say so Lee. I mean Stoneage





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03 May 2024 07:57:59
I actually had to go back and double check them posters name. I originally thought Leek up to his old tricks again.




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26 Apr 2024 22:18:26
Damnded if you do and damnded if you don't.





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19 Jul 2024 08:35:03
Wish him all the best from us BurkeyBoy

These things can be hard on a person so give him love from all us LFC fans ?.




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12 Jul 2024 06:33:57
Not sure Pickford is mocking anyone really. looks just like a typical photo bomb opportunity.




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09 Jul 2024 06:51:28
I really enjoyed the Euros, but when the "smaller" teams where still playing.

They seemed to have played with more purpose and with an attacking mindset.

The "bigger" teams have all been really really boring, other than Spain.

The constant sideways and backwards passing really made for a boring game

We have all heard of "Death by Chocolate", we'll it seems the "bigger" teams played a style of "Death by Possession"

Teams like Croatia, Austria, Switzerland really played some entertaining football.

The problem is that they do not have the world class players who are able to make a difference out of nothing.




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03 Jul 2024 16:55:27
About 3 or 4 months ago, it was mentioned on here, several time, that Gakpo was useless and the worst buy and that we should sell him.

Now we all love him and he's our future.

Football fans can be real fickle!




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20 Jun 2024 15:48:16
I stopped reading these posts after Thunderbird's brilliant post

Thank you TB!

Some of you really need to take a long hard look at yourselves.




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