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21 Dec 2019 08:00:14
Havertz being linked again via bild. Nothing changed I presume Ed? Still looking likely to going to Bayern.

Tom27

{Ed002's Note - Kai Havertz (AM) Bayern Munich will likely move for KH if the option on Philippe Coutinho not taken up, but interest from elsewhere - particularly Barcelona (if Coutinho leaves), Manchester City (as a David Silva replacement) and Juventus. Interest of Milan will likely not go anywhere. Dortmund and PSG have both certainly spoken with his agent. Numerous other clubs have had scouts watch including Manchester United, Chelsea and Real Madrid who have watched him on a number of occasions but either don't see the value in the price now or have other targets (where Chelsea and Real Madrid are concerned). Whether Liverpool wish to throw their hat in to the ring is another matter.}


1.) 21 Dec 2019 08:17:40
Wow that was fast, thanks mate. So unlikely then. I just can’t see us spending that amount of money on a player. €130m is what I read. Seems with this Nike deal, klopp extension and how well we are performing we are going to be linked with everyone! Were articles the other day on us going for neymar. I mean come onyou couldn’t get further away from a Liverpool / klopp type player.

{Ed002's Note - Bild wrote an article citing interest from Manchester United, Manchester City, Bayern Munich and Real Madrid - and then went on to write another saying Manchester United and Manchester City have spoken directly wth the player - which they have not. Somewhere down the line an English paper added Liverpool as one of these clubs. Right now Liverpool has not made any approach to Bayer Leverkusen regarding the player.

The reality is that all four clubs want an AM player - and he is Bayern's preferred recourse assuming they decide not to take up the option on Coutinho. Manchester United are looking for an AM player and have been baulking at the price being asked for Bruno Fernandes (AM) and have not lost sight of Christian Eriksen (AM). They have certainly looked at him but I am not aware of more than that and I am sure they have not spoken with the player directly. Real Madrid are also looking for an AM player and have been attracted by the low cost option of Eriksen. Finally, Manchester United do have the need to replace David Silva but it would be a very significant investment in a youngster.}


2.) 21 Dec 2019 08:17:40
Wow that was fast, thanks mate. So unlikely then. I just can’t see us spending that amount of money on a player. €130m is what I read. Seems with this Nike deal, klopp extension and how well we are performing we are going to be linked with everyone! Were articles the other day on us going for neymar. I mean come onyou couldn’t get further away from a Liverpool / klopp type player.


3.) 21 Dec 2019 11:44:19
how good is he ed only see him play the for Germany v Argentina and if his value is £100m+ for me its a big risk on these young players even Sancho when ever I have seen him play for England or the odd game for Dortmund still think at that price looks a big risk.

{Ed002's Note - He is well thought of but the asking price is pretty extreme, hence some clubs are stepping back. There are few clubs who will take that financial risk on a young player.}


4.) 21 Dec 2019 11:44:19
how good is he ed only see him play the for Germany v Argentina and if his value is £100m+ for me its a big risk on these young players even Sancho when ever I have seen him play for England or the odd game for Dortmund still think at that price looks a big risk.

{Ed002's Note - He is very well thought of but also young. As you say, he is expensive and it is risky - and if he is to move at that sort of price then there are not an enormous number of clubs who can afford that risk. And that can be seen from the clubs who have stepped back because of the price.}


5.) 21 Dec 2019 12:31:33
Ed002, with the addition of Minamino, do you think Liverpool may still add an AM in Summer?

{Ed002's Note - If they can move Shaqiri yes.}


6.) 21 Dec 2019 15:44:22
Do you see Shaqiri moving on in the summer then Ed? He no doubt wants mote game time.

{Ed002's Note - He might decide to sit tight.}


7.) 22 Dec 2019 02:33:45
I think that if keita and/ or OX can progress and play an important role in the 2nd half of the season we'd have no need to add an AM.

They have shown they can be a great fit in that role and klopp is more regularly using them in advanced attacking roles. If they can perform that role we mightnt need to recruit.

I see minamino being a better fit than shaqiri and versatile enough to play much more regularly. AM is not a position I see as needing addressing as we are not lacking threat from midfield this season and many important goals and assists have come from our midfield.

Minamino will only add more strenght from wide and central areas but we are not suffering from weakness in midfield lacking offensive output to demand we break the bank to sign another.


8.) 22 Dec 2019 08:54:58
i thought guardiola and everyone else was expecting foden to replace silva? can't seen PG taking that risk and will spend yet more money on his threadbare under resourced squad.

{Ed002's Note - No, you are mistaken. Ilkay Gundogan and Phil Foden are seen as the two central midfield player Manchester City has in the first team and Davide Silva and Ken DeBruyne the two attacking midfield players. They will be losing Silva, and the likes of Sane and will need replacements. Unlike Liverpool they do not have a mass of Central Midfield players to pick from. They are wary of price as they have never paid that sort of money for a player before - the most they have paid being a little over half the asking price. So perhaps your attempt at sarcasm fell on stoney ground.}


9.) 22 Dec 2019 13:23:06
Fair enough Ed, keep hearing it said that’s his role. He barely plays so I’m not quite sure where he fits in, they also play Bernardo, Rodrigo and Fernandinho in mf All in front of him so it’s not like they’re short as they only play with 3. I get most of their buys occurred before the market went crazy but relative to what was being spent at the time they were spending a lot more. 8 of the top 25 in PL history.


10.) 22 Dec 2019 14:22:56
I really like what I have seen of Foden, definitely looks like he could be top class. I'd be surprised to see City pay that much for Havertz when other areas of their squad (defence) seem in greater need of investment. Perhaps they can afford it all but, even for a club with their spending power, I'd think it unlikely they could get the defensive quality they need and fork out for Havertz. Info is interesting though ed, thanks.


11.) 22 Dec 2019 15:18:55
If KH is worth 127m, then Grujic is worth 35/ 40 at least. I also wonder if the Naby role is being reconsidered after a very slow and inconsistent start .
The type of fee being mentioned for Kai doesn't surprise me in as much as if he genuinely is a world class talent and good for 10/ 12 years at the top, its not so outrageous.


12.) 22 Dec 2019 22:47:05
Personally I don’t get the furore that surrounds Foden. He looks decent enough but for me is another overhyped English player who’s done nothing to warrant the hype that surrounds him.
We’ve seen loads over the years, Barkley, Lingard, Townsend, Winks, Rashford. All decent players but all not getting to the heights that were initially expected.


13.) 23 Dec 2019 17:31:14
Absolutely no chance of us spending the kind of money being talked about for Havertz or Sancho or anyone unless one of our stars leaves. Can see Zielinski replacing Lallana and maybe a young CB or DCM to deputize but not a big name or big money, and that's only right. We have the best team in the world, if it ain't broke etc etc.


14.) 26 Dec 2019 11:14:52
Still think we could do with another striker, love Origi as an impact sub, but I think we could do with a plan b for Bobby who is on fire at the moment but also has spells where he is flat
Difficult to say who though as whoever we went for would know that appearances will be limited. I would personally spend a significant sum on Vardy despite his age as he works hard and fits in to Klopp team ideally for me.

{Ed002's Note - Maybe they will take Brewster and £50M for someone to sit on the bench at Liverpool? Would he be behind or ahead of Mbabbe in the pecking order?}


15.) 27 Dec 2019 10:18:27
Who mentioned Mbappe I had an opinion and voiced it Ed002 and I believe our team could still improve despite being strong already with a proven striker who could be used when we are struggling to break teams down. Maybe not Vardy he was my personal choice but there are others out there too.


16.) 27 Dec 2019 15:32:44
Between Wilson, Grujic (who the Ed's have said does not fit tactically with JK's model) and Shaq, plus Lallana's wages, we can free up enough to afford a top notch MF player. I'd be ok with those 3 being sold to raise funds for Kai.


 

 

08 Nov 2019 07:45:25
Wow great rumour (aka nonsense) from the express this morning . Liverpool plan £215m bid for Mbappe which will see salah go to Real Madrid. Quality. I thought you only had to come here for made up rumours .

Tom27

1.) 08 Nov 2019 09:30:16
but you're secretly hoping one of the eds verifies this in the positive aye. lol :p.


2.) 08 Nov 2019 10:11:28
I'd hate to see Salah go to be honest, been outstanding for us.


3.) 08 Nov 2019 11:04:20
But if he did leave this guy would surely be an upgrade which is hard to come by.


4.) 09 Nov 2019 07:17:40
Upgrade is a bit harsh, Salah has been quality for sure, but if he is set on leaving then we need a replacement that is at least as good.


Who knows what FSG have planned. Didn't they just off and buy Alisson without the club's involvement. I know any spending needs to be reconciled under FFP but if they shelled out what could be over £60m for a keeper then perhaps they will go big for a striker. But £200m+? I'd love the likes of Mbappe, but I'm not sure how I feel about the club/ owners spending that sort of money.

I know getting a world class CB and keeper was much needed but I would argue that those were special cases that were needed to complete picture - the missing pieces of the puzzle.

I hope we don't have to spend crazy money on outfield players in the future. I don't see how it's sustainable.


5.) 09 Nov 2019 08:16:07
You can't say the club won't spend that money but the 200m would be offset by any Salah sale so.

wont happen anyways!


6.) 09 Nov 2019 12:29:41
His wages would blow our wage structure out the window, which would have a massive knock on effect, yer living on abs cloud cookoo land if ye think this has any possibility what so ever.


7.) 09 Nov 2019 16:03:40
There is no question we are interested. Who wouldn't be? I think the wooing began a long time ago.

Klopp's comments probably to avoid annoying PSG, as Real Madrid appears to have done.

If Mbappe comes, it will doubtless be financed by players leaving. Or by sponsorship. At any rate, I would leave the money aspect to others.


8.) 09 Nov 2019 20:29:11
I agree port red, he’d want astronomical wages and then that really does open Pandora’s box.


9.) 10 Nov 2019 03:50:06
Mbappe is not coming to Liverpool.


10.) 11 Nov 2019 07:49:58
Spot on Reynard, klopp himself has killed this rumour before it gets out of hand.
He will join Real Madrid for the 2020/ 21 season and no we won't be signing Bale either.


 

 

29 Oct 2018 09:25:37
Read a rumour that there is an agreement between Liverpool and Salah that he will be allowed to leave at the end of the season if Barcelona or real come calling. Any truth to it? I'd imagine it's a Spanish paper trying to stir things up.

Tom27

1.) 29 Oct 2018 10:10:31
I seen that yesterday mate annoying isn't it I would like too think he wants too stay with us.


2.) 29 Oct 2018 10:30:31
So as soon as he's back in the goals more regularly he gets linked with a move by newspapers? Shock horror. I wouldn't worry about it mate.


3.) 29 Oct 2018 10:44:38
Liverpool may sell to "anyone" should "anyone" make an unbelievable offer, why limit ourselves to Real and Barcelona only? I think we are getting ourselves into a position that players would want to stay as we are starting to look like the real deal, whereas Real look like a bloody mess. Does Modric want out?


4.) 29 Oct 2018 12:36:05
When will people learn about reading this tripe and believing it enough to ask if there’s any truth. Let’s see if either club can raise the 150-200 mil to make an offer before we start hitting a panic button. Besides weren’t most of the press reporting him as a 1 season wonder last week?

{Ed002's Note - It will be based on his efforts to move to Spain and having his agent speak with both clubs. I have explained that the package being asked for saw RA laughed out of the building.}


5.) 29 Oct 2018 13:37:43
Players come and go, they are transient. Very few will have genuine loyalty to 1 club, especially it seems, when Barcelona and Real madrid come calling.
I do not believe this story, but even if it were true, find a replacement and move on. It happens all the time in football.


6.) 29 Oct 2018 17:28:45
i know it is annoying mate isn't it. I normally wouldn't pay attention and assume that its a spanish paper trying to unrest the player as they want him at RM / Barcelona and using the lack of goal celebrations as an indication he wants to leave.


7.) 29 Oct 2018 19:00:16
The end of the season is a long way away 👍.


8.) 29 Oct 2018 20:08:13
Why would he leave the Champions of England and Europe to join Real Madrid in the Europa League?


9.) 29 Oct 2018 20:56:31
I like the optimism MK, but you're jumping the gun a little there lad. Still 28 games to go in the league.


10.) 29 Oct 2018 17:44:57
RA Ed002?

{Ed002's Note - His agent.}


11.) 30 Oct 2018 07:25:00
Cheers Ed002.


12.) 30 Oct 2018 09:32:54
I was replied too as being paranoid for mentioning the salah Barcelona thing also Madrid wanted him and paul merson spouting out in press salah looked unhappy, but ed 02 has been telling us for a long time salah and his agent flirting with the club's mentioned and we have seen this thing before with coutihno, Suarez, mascerano, Alonso etc so nothing surprises me with players loyalty too staying with us.


13.) 30 Oct 2018 11:53:48
Will be surprised if Barcelona can afford Salah this summer.

Maybe they will offer Suarez and Coutinho in part exchange but I don’t see us going for that.

Barca have some rebuilding to do.

Think both Barcelona and Madrid see several EPL clubs coming up fast and Champions League maybe between Juve LFC and Citeh over the next couple of seasons with Chelski back in the frame next year.


14.) 30 Oct 2018 12:17:14
Don't worry about it Hailstones, some people do overreact when you mention a star player could leave the club. You and TOM27 only mentioned you read a newspaper article.
None of us can say for certain that Salah, Mane, Firminho etc will be Liverpool players next season. The better they play the more stories we will see of Barca, Real, Psg looking to buy them. The 2 spanish are allegedly the dream for nearly every player, for whatever reason.


15.) 30 Oct 2018 16:41:12
ed002 do you see it getting harder for to many big galactico signing now with the price of players madrid need a few new signings and to take the best players of teams now would mean one hell of a summer spending spree. I do think the Neymar transfer caused a bit of a merry go round of transfers that has set a bit of a president that can't be kept going. soon there has to be a breaking point.


16.) 31 Oct 2018 12:49:59
Grino75, there are no signs of it stopping just yet. When you look beyond the insane £100m marks, the actual cost in percentage of revenue, cost of players (even the insane ones) are on average less than before.
Pogba was in reality cheaper for United than Veron was, based on percentage of revenue.

The revenue is still on a rise, albeit especially in the Premiership. But as long as revenue keeps rising, and the money made in Europe are increasing. the transfer fees will follow.

But to reply to the top one. I believe Salah is a great player, in so many ways, and will be hard if not impossible to replace if he leaves.
Yet, people seem to forget that Klopp have altered his attack to maximize Salahs effect. Adding another top quality, yet cheaper player, I trust in Klopp to adjust again. and it will be like CoutinWho. We didn't really miss him after the fact.

Just my two cents for the eds to blow wide open :)

{Ed002's Note - "Percentage of revenue" is of no relevance and comparisons between the likes of Veron and Pogba are of no relevance.}


17.) 01 Nov 2018 16:40:43
Of course he'll go, it's the owners Modus operandi. Why do you all torture yourselves, even though the coutinho money helped fund the last few windows, they'll still be mortified to have spent a hell of a lot more than they ever envisaged even tough it's a fraction of city and united's spend. Oh and they'll take nowhere near £200 million for him, if they can get anywhere near the couthinho money, BANG he's gone.


 

 

22 Jul 2018 12:31:28
What is likely to happen with Meyer? Who has shown serious interest / opened talks with his agent (Asking here as he has been linked to Liverpool).

Tom27

1.) 22 Jul 2018 13:22:47
From what I've heard his wage demands are too high for most clubs to be interested.


2.) 22 Jul 2018 14:42:16
was his wage demands £4m a year if so does not seems too high in this day and age. about £77k a week or is that just paper talk like that's why people don't want him.


3.) 22 Jul 2018 15:07:24
Think it was double that last i read grino. 8million his demanding.


4.) 22 Jul 2018 15:53:40
Never seen him play so no idea if he's any good or not but if he's a £30m player then getting him on a free with high wages doesn't seem too bad. If he's just a £3m player then it's a bad deal.

{Ed002's Note - What do you men by "free"? Signing on fee, 5% of valuation to The FA, agent fees, payment to compensate Schalke, tax due on the transfer fee – typically this will be VAT (at varying rates across Europe) some or all of which should be reclaimable, tax due on the agent fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the agent bills from – it is not reclaimable, Intermediary fees – this may be to one or more sponging leeches (what do you mean you have a super agent?), legal fees, VAT on legal fees which is reclaimable, moving/relocation costs for the player, VAT on moving/relocation costs which is reclaimable. And then there are his outrageous wage demands.}


5.) 22 Jul 2018 16:33:13
If these are the costs involved for a so called free transfer, then the amount Can must have cost to Juventus is beyond my imagination.

Let alone be for signing a player from certain club.

{Ed002's Note - They don't have to pay all of these costs but ceratinly signing on fee, agent fee, legal fees relocation costs - but his wages are far lower than what is being asked by MM.}


6.) 22 Jul 2018 19:39:28
I still expect him to sign for a premier league club, but I'd think it'll be more along the lines of West Ham or Palace. I also think it happen late as he'll start to learn that he'll have to drop his wage demands if he wants anyone to sign him.


7.) 22 Jul 2018 20:59:22
Do we see us going for him if he reduces his wage demands (in case nobody is ready to pay high wages)?

{Ed002's Note - To replace?}


8.) 22 Jul 2018 21:09:58
Ed002 by 'free' I meant that we wouldn't be giving a club £30m or so just to buy him. I'm well aware of all the other stuff that accompanies a so called free transfer.

{Ed002's Note - So who will be moved on to make room for him?}


9.) 22 Jul 2018 21:50:20
No idea Ed002, my only musing on the matter was whether he'd be a decent acquisition on a 'free' if you go back to my original comment.


10.) 23 Jul 2018 07:33:59
No transfer fee say 20 million.

Maybe sell one day even for 12 mil will negate most of those costs.

So eventually be a free is what it should be called.


11.) 23 Jul 2018 07:37:45
Why would a player be a good addition, if he's not replacing anyone in the squad? That's just stockpiling for the sake of it surely and will lead to more club debt and unhappy player/ s.


12.) 23 Jul 2018 09:07:40
Love how hot under the collar ed2 gets when people talk about frees and transfer fees in general- Iv learned a lot from you though mate. I didn’t realise about all the hidden costs of every transfer. Even been passing on the knowledge to one of my mates who saw an article and based purely on official transfer spend and all income it reckoned we had another 200mil after Allison to spend on transfers. I informed him it was utter bullsh*t but some people actually believe that shit! Dread to think what we’ve spent on agent fees alone this summer- never thought I’d type these words but I agree with Gary Neville (sorry- give me a second) agent fees should be limited and the FA should impose a tax on them as a way of getting money back into game from these thieves!

{Ed002's Note - Last season Liverpool paid £27M in agent fees.}


13.) 23 Jul 2018 12:24:41
Sport agent to established players must genuinely be the best job in the world.


14.) 23 Jul 2018 14:21:02
Meyer is not good enough for us anymore. He would not get in ahead of Fab, Naby and Hendo anyway and for a squad player, we already have Gini, Milner and Lallana.


15.) 23 Jul 2018 23:53:52
He wants 8mil a year apparently that’s just silly money if he was that good Madrid, Barca, PSG etc would have snapped him up.


16.) 24 Jul 2018 08:44:08
Kloppsboss, how do you work that one out? You say he might cost 20 mil, then sell him at a later date for 12 and it negate most of the costs so he really becomes free?

I mean you’re already 8mil down that way and the fact even after 1 year, you'll be another 8mil down with his wage demands xD

The word "free" is made up to give people false hope. Nothing is ever free in life! (Unless you steal it and never get caught xD)


 

 

16 Mar 2015 17:03:23
Sinclair to Wigan on loan for the rest of the season

Good luck to him, hope it helps continue his development

Tom27

1.) 16 Mar 2015 17:29:01
Ojo is there aswell hope they both run riot


 

 

 

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04 May 2022 21:15:59
I don’t personally don’t like that they’ve done away with the away goal rule in the knockout stages of the champions league. Think it completely changes the dynamics of the ties. Teams will go away from home and set up not to concede, or concede the least amount possible and try to win it at home. There’s less motivation to try and score away. Makes for more tactical defensive games.

Tom27

1.) 04 May 2022 22:00:35
I think yesterday shows its the opposite. Doing away with away goals means losing the first leg by 2 isn't necessarily curtains.

If away goals existed in yesterday's scenario I'm not so sure villareal feel as confident to how they started.

My biggest gripe with it going is its unfair on the away team in the second leg. Before it was an equaliser if a game went to ET. Whereas now all the benefit is with the home team.


2.) 04 May 2022 23:06:31
I agree. I think generally speaking away goals is a massive incentive for the away side to not sit back and play defensive. But we have just seen two brilliant semi-finals.


3.) 04 May 2022 23:50:47
I don’t like the change. But like I said when the rule happened. It will actually benefit Liverpool because our stadium is so much better than the rest of Europe. Even though I’m against it, it is good for our club. And once again Anfield has carried us to another final.


4.) 05 May 2022 00:53:00
To be fair LiverpoolFCB I don't think you can Anfield carried us. The only two games we haven't won in the CL this season were both at Anfield, losing to Inter and drawing with Benfica.


 

 

27 Jul 2021 20:52:00
I’ve got a sneaky suspicion Saul isn’t going to happen and will end up at United with Pogba going to Juve / PSG. Ed002 has been saying all along United may well go in for him if Pogba were to leave and there’s talk now he won’t sign a new contract. All that plus we are skint!

Tom27

1.) 27 Jul 2021 21:14:01
I'm absolutely certain that we'll sign Sanches later in the window and i really don't want it to happen. Good as he is, his injury problems are dire.


2.) 27 Jul 2021 21:35:59
Hoping for bissouma still and felling is he is still main target. Think the versitile forward won't happen. All this is just gut feeling.


3.) 27 Jul 2021 22:47:02
You've a sneaky suspicion that a player we can't afford as Ed002 has said on numerous occasions is going to end up somewhere else? Excellent detective work.


4.) 27 Jul 2021 22:48:32
I'm thinking it will be bissouma and bowen who will come in. and I would be very pleased with that.


5.) 27 Jul 2021 23:11:53
As much as on the surface signing Bowen isn’t and ‘amazing’ ‘stand out’ player, he’d be a solid option on the bench and to come into the team when needed. Has PL experience, home grown and to me looks like a player that constantly wants to improve and is willing to give 100%, and for me I’d have a player with that attitude all day every day over a big time Charlie who thinks he’s all that.

Add Bissouma as another signing plus the arrival of Konate and we’ve strengthened the squad.

Let’s not forget the injured players will be back.
I just hope we can just add the extra quality to the squads that for me is much needed. And also make sure we tie down our key players to new contracts.


6.) 28 Jul 2021 07:41:05
It's like groundhog day on here. like a continual merry-go-round of the same conversation. Let's just wait and see what happens I reckon. Nobody knows who we are going to sign so best to wait I'd say. Klopp has managed pretty well so far. I know this is a rumours site etc but the same posts over and over is tedious to say the least. We are all desperate for new signings I know but come on lads/ lasses.


7.) 28 Jul 2021 09:46:31
OP, Saul was a pipe dream anyway so your gut-feeling is just your common sense working as it should work.

With MKS on this one. We may get Sanches at the very end even tho, I think he is good player, just think his injuries are an issues. Still hoping for Bissouma tho.


8.) 28 Jul 2021 11:21:58
Sanches isn’t a good player, he’s all over the place as a midfielder, he completely lacks tactical discipline or intelligence. He’s only ever looked remotely half decent for Portugal, even then he looks like the kind of player you’d hard pass on as he doesn’t look like he knows what he’s doing. Add to that that he’s made out of crisps and is barely available for half the matches in a season and it’s a recipe for a disaster of Aquilani/ Keita proportions as it would be good money thrown to bad which could never be recovered. If we pass up the opportunity of signing a quality reliable midfielder like Bisoumma/ Niguez/ Neuhaus for a waster like Sanches then we’ve truly lost the plot.


9.) 28 Jul 2021 13:20:21
Think you guys are missing the point slightly on my post. Oh Mane Mane in particular. It was more that I think the stars are alligning for him to go to United. He's 6-1 on sly for that . might have a dabble.


10.) 28 Jul 2021 13:20:21
Think you guys are missing the point slightly on my post. Oh Mane Mane in particular. It was more that I think the stars are alligning for him to go to United. He's 6-1 on sly for that . might have a dabble.


11.) 28 Jul 2021 17:14:59
I know what you meant Tom. I was only pulling your leg pal. As Ed002 in particular has said as good as Saul is he's out of our price range sadly.


 

 

27 Mar 2021 07:29:32
Ed002, is it true that FFP is going to be scraped? If do What do you think may come in it’s place. Worrying if the City and PSG’s of this world are going to be give free roam to spend what they want.

Tom27

{Ed002's Note - Try searching.}


 

 

16 Dec 2020 22:25:48
My god I really hate Mourag! He is totally delusional! a draw would of been unfair? What a n*b!

We dominated possession and had far more chances. They had 2 clear cut chances they should of finished but how many time did mane and salah hit one straight at the keeper.

Tom27

1.) 16 Dec 2020 22:45:39
He’s got to say that though hasn’t he otherwise the self belief thingy doesn’t work! Jokes aside he’s not going to come out and say my tactics didn’t work and my football is crap is he.


2.) 16 Dec 2020 22:46:23
The man doesn’t deny what he is and knows exactly what he is doing.

He says bizarre comments after games as he is willing to take all the media chat on him, rather then his team get crucified for showing very little ambition.

I don’t like his football but he fits with spurs for now as they just want a trophy and he will deliver it. But they will eventually grow tired of his football.

As for us, we just never give up and I hope this result halts others in their tracks. If we can put 3-4 wins on the spin I think we will have a little cushion to the rest. Onwards and upwards.


3.) 16 Dec 2020 22:51:57
He can win all the mind games he likes. We'll win the pitch, ta.


4.) 16 Dec 2020 22:55:59
SR he hates that Klopp is liked for his behaviour but he isn’t. Klopp definitely has one over him.


5.) 16 Dec 2020 22:56:56
Sod what he thinks! 😝

Great win for us, need to follow it up with a tricky away to Palace!

As WYred said, the league is so up and down if you can string together a few victories we'll create a gap an hopefully give those around us that sinking feeling again. Up the reds.


6.) 16 Dec 2020 23:05:37
Why would Klopp bother with mind games with a team that might finish 3rd at best?
Thought Jones was outstanding today. In what planet is this a 19 year old in his first full squad year?! Just incredible.


7.) 16 Dec 2020 23:09:38
It’s only a matter of time before he loses the dressing room. Always goes that way with him eventually.

I used to find him amusing and it’s brilliant when it all goes t*ts up and they go on the free fall but he winds me up so much when things are going there way.

Perhaps I should learn not to bite!


8.) 17 Dec 2020 03:50:01
Of course he’s going to say that. When we haven’t won Klopp has blamed fixture congestion and 5 subs despite us rarely using 3 subs. It’s what managers do to try and protect players and poor performances.


9.) 17 Dec 2020 08:22:35
Was a bit weird though, he was complaining how Klopp gets on on the touchline and said about him touching the screen the 4th official had - that was Guardiola the other night. Think it's been said, but he just twists things so the talk is about him and not how his team played.


10.) 17 Dec 2020 08:41:01
WI have said before, mind games are not a thing cos they don't work UNLESS you are the weak-minded. Klopp owns Jose and Jose is scarred for life about it. Klopp got him sacked in the last 3 jobs Jose has been at so what were people expecting? I could taste Jose's salt in his pre-meditated comments. You want to know how right I am? Watch Jose's face in the replay after Bobbie ruined his night. PRICELESS!


 

 

04 Oct 2020 20:36:02
Shocking! Been a long time since I switched a game off but watching the boxing now!

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1.) 04 Oct 2020 20:47:04
I'm watching Power Rangers with the wee man.


 

 

 

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23 Jun 2022 10:44:23
Think this was in relation to stand out academy level players Jurgen. Elliott and Carvalho are first team squad players so a level above that.

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15 Jun 2022 13:45:12
I've somehow managed to decipher that as Matthijs de Ligt. Assume the papers have linked us with buying him.

Don't worried Eds i can cover this one . NO!

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08 Jan 2022 16:53:32
FFP isn’t the issue for us …. It’s cash! We’ve bought players in the past on the never never and it caught up with us with C.V.. I am of the opinion though that cash does need injecting, ideally through the owners (interest free loans but I understand that is restricted) or debt or we will start to fade away. We funded transfers in the past through big player sales who were in their prime (Suarez, coutinho) but do we really want to do that again? I just hope the Elliots / Jones become as good as we all hope and they have the potential to be.

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06 Jan 2022 02:50:06
Great insight Ed002. Everything you need to know about the differences between our spending ability and City and Chelsea are in these comments. Chelsea stockpiled players when FFP didn’t exist and are now able to cash in on their loan army to fund future transfers. City are only able to spend as they are due to their spurious sponsorship deals with related companies. The cash our owners are putting in is going to infrastructure (stadium, training ground etc) to build the asset base, perhaps teeing up a future sale? They are all about growing the value of the business and when that peaks, they’ll sell. At some point though they will have to reinvest in the squad to keep us competitive but I’d imagine they will be happy with top 4 with an outside chance of winning the big competitions each year. That time is coming with the ageing squad.

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18 Sep 2020 20:37:39
I don’t get this panic over a first team player leaving. ‘Oh he would expect to be a starter’ at Wolves maybe but not liverpool. A team fighting for all trophies. He’s 23?! How about he’s coming in to transition into the team ahead of a future potential sale of mane / salah

The cash issue too. Yes we have a lot of cash outgoings this year but a massive new Secured loan facility unused that we could draw on. Perhaps we saw the signings around us and decided to tap into some of those funds to strengthen the team. Hell FSG are all about buying low and selling high so why would they allow us to drift away from our current position.

Ffp not an issue given past years performance and cash and profit are 2 completely different thing.

Would like to hear your view on this Ed002 please. Change of tact maybe from fsg? Adding a bit more external debt.

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11 May 2022 13:55:33
My god Harry, I find your posts so repetitive it’s now tedious. Why on earth did you ever switch back from City to Liverpool. I for one wish you had stayed there.

For me, a measure of success is how well you’ve performed as a team against expectation. At the beginning of the season, given the AFCON I was hoping for a top 4 finish and a decent run in the champions league …. we have far exceeded that and I’ve loved every minute of it, regardless of what happens from now until the end of the season. I’m immensely proud of the team and how far we’ve come.

We have come a hell of a long way from the dark days of Hicks and Gillette under FSG. We have a brilliant manager, the best squad in my living memory, a bigger stadium, new training facilities, doing far better with commercial revenues and as a club overall … for me, that is a true measure of success.

If you want to measure success purely on trophies won, then you’ll be far better supporting City again where they will continue to cheat FFP and buy their ‘success’.

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28 Jul 2021 13:20:21
Think you guys are missing the point slightly on my post. Oh Mane Mane in particular. It was more that I think the stars are alligning for him to go to United. He's 6-1 on sly for that . might have a dabble.

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28 Jul 2021 13:20:21
Think you guys are missing the point slightly on my post. Oh Mane Mane in particular. It was more that I think the stars are alligning for him to go to United. He's 6-1 on sly for that . might have a dabble.

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09 Jun 2021 14:24:11
I think he/ she means physics = time and physics being mind readers. So he/ she was doing the sharkopod as you asked! do i get the prize?

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30 May 2021 06:59:04
There’s something about ol big ears. She doesn’t like being bought! City, PSG can’t seem to win it. Chelsea only first won it when their spending settled down.

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