Liverpool Discussions

25 Sep 2026 15:55:43
Found guilty on 114 of 115 charges. What are your predictions for City's sanctioning? 30 points? 40 points? 2 "Our Fathers" and a "Hail Mary"? Not going to lie I'm very surprised they were found guilty on a total of 114 charges. This is about to get very interesting indeed.

25 Sep 2026 16:10:49
I would like to hear the response of the "best coach in the world".

25 Sep 2026 16:30:51
They will litigate for the next 5 years
The punishment should be automatic relegation to league two.

25 Sep 2026 16:44:58
How about 2 to 3 points deduction on avg per charge?

25 Sep 2026 17:12:07
Jari, they may try, but it won't work, they don't have grounds for an appeal, not to mention 114/115 is extraordinarily damning.

25 Sep 2026 15:36:15
Ornstein reporting that City have been found guilty of 114/115 charges. Punishment TBC. Let the chaos begin.

25 Sep 2026 15:23:05
So Man city have finally been found guilty of the majority of the charges against them with punishments and sanctions yet to decided.

25 Sep 2026 15:41:37
We'll see. There is no official announcement as yet. At the moment it is just the Athletic saying that they have been found guilty for 114 of the 115 charges. City just released a statement saying that the process is ongoing.

City will appeal anyway and drag it out for another few years.

25 Sep 2026 15:07:46
Wow City breaking news 😳.

25 Sep 2026 15:05:41
Man city found guilty on all but one charge.

24 Sep 2026 19:42:37
Koumas is starting up front tonight against Portugal on BBC2 7:45. Let's hope he has a great game and comes home fit. Ynwa.

24 Sep 2026 20:27:35
Klopps Germany looking good already.

22 Sep 2026 23:24:25
Did any of you get a look at the article on ESPN regarding Wirtz? It was looking at the question of benching him. The stats are an interesting read. Curious what others opinions are, before reading this I felt he is not droppable. This only made my mind up further. I still think he needs and deserves time. My 2 cents.

23 Sep 2026 09:02:38
Besides the Wirtz question, what formation Jurgen chooses and where Wirtz will be played is also the other dilemma over the Netherlands v Germany fixture tomorrow and that is where will Gravenberch play if selected by New Dutch Boss Xavi a former "attacking" midfield maestro in his playing days, will he alter him from a Slot number 6 to a Xavi number 10?

Other interests of course is Ljinders on Jurgens coaching staff again that would suggest 4-3-3 "harrying" and chasing for possession of the ball Jurgen style. Other LFC interests for Jurgen are Gakpo and of course his former club captain VVD. Very intriguing game indeed?

24 Sep 2026 09:08:32
It will be an interesting match, but if Pep L is with Klopp I doubt it'll be the 'heavy metal' football that he was associated with and had with us in the first few years. That isn't Pep's style and we started to move towards a more possession based style as he started having more influence.

24 Sep 2026 11:30:04
Not really sure the international game has any relevance whatsoever for us. It is a team sport, the best you get out of a player is in his (and his teammates) ability to link, gel, get each others game and be a cohesive force. Wirtz has nothing to prove from a capability perspective he's a class technician. As part of the LFC team he has everything to prove, as do the rest - part of an overall cohesive team.

His teammates aren't with him with Germany and, again, he's more than proven his international capabilities so the only interest I have is in hoping he does not get injured!

24 Sep 2026 14:28:06
I think klopp will tweak Wirtz's game with his coaching. I reckon he will help improve all the squad. Can't see many pulling out of being called up while he is in charge. Even if you don't get to play and only get to train.

22 Sep 2026 21:16:57
Brughmanns,

Bradley, Jacquet, Leoni, Kerkez,

Nyoni, Szoboszlai

Wirtz,

Barcola, Ekitike, Ngumoha


youth in abundance would love to see how this team stacks up in 3 years time!

23 Sep 2026 11:56:35
I think Rio might be gone by then. Or it might be his last season with us.

I predict that if he becomes the player we want, he will leave for elsewhere at somepoint. He has ambitions to win the Ballon d'or and you don't do that at Liverpool. He isn't a Liverpool fan so he has no deep ties to the club, but these can be built over time still.

If he does not become the player we want, well then he will get moved on.

23 Sep 2026 13:12:00
Don't think any of them are LFC fans besides Bradley and I'm sure they'd all like a Ballon D'or. Even RB's fancy their chances these days.

21 Sep 2026 09:10:31
The Sky Sports propaganda machine is in full effect. Two anti-Wirtz posts in their top 6 news stories.

First one from Carragher, saying he cannot play against Man City. The second one is a poll asking fans whether Wirtz should play or not.

Man City or Sky owners scared much? Or is it all in my imagination? Wish I knew how to add a screenshot.

21 Sep 2026 10:09:29
Scared of what mate? Wirtz has been totally underwhelming and hasn't done nothing so far this season to be a guranteed starter.

21 Sep 2026 10:08:26
Carragher is an embarrassment. I can't believe Sky actually pay him.

21 Sep 2026 10:18:39
On the ball or off the ball, ASB? "Totally underwhelming" for both?

21 Sep 2026 11:42:52
Scared? Of?

21 Sep 2026 12:48:38
Carra is top notch pundit. Better analysis than most on the mainstream but he's going out of his way to bring a lot of attention on Wirtz. He and Neville have been at him since he got here and love to throw in "weve been kind to Wirtz but." every other week.

I hope they keep Morgan Rodgers under the same microscope.

21 Sep 2026 13:20:39
Carra does half the job right in identifying the issues, but he's very closed minded on the solution. He jumps right to creating a new narrative or bandwagon mixed in with a bunch of his own biases.

21 Sep 2026 14:33:50
Jamie has a bit of a tabloid style of punditry, most of them do. It's all for clicks, you get that most by sensationalising everything.

To be fair to him though you can't not ask questions of Wirtz, particularly yesterday he was just so poor. If that wasn't picked up by the pundits they're not doing their job. He also praised Jacquet who's performed better in his five or six games than Wirtz has in ten times as many games.

21 Sep 2026 14:47:18
1. The job of a sports pundit is to say something controversial to get sports fans to watch their show. Don't fall for it. Their opinion is irrelevant.

2. Carra is a passionate Liverpool supporter and an average Liverpool former player but he is still a numpty, or maybe even a Muppet. You decide. Should we have a poll?

A "numpty" is typically a clumsy or daft person who made a harmless mistake, whereas a "muppet" implies sheer incompetence or being easily manipulated like a puppet.

21 Sep 2026 16:21:29
Cara has been non stop since the season started on on everything Liverpool related just criticising is boring.

22 Sep 2026 02:41:50
Just put Wirtz in the top of one of our rivals and then consider how much joy you'd be taking in deriding his PL career to date.

22 Sep 2026 08:04:29
Nothing Carra has said is wrong though, I don't think he should start against city either.

22 Sep 2026 16:08:09
Jamie Carragher gobbing off again? Who knew.

24 Sep 2026 07:05:27
Funky you are joking about Carragher aren't you!! He is the worst pundit along side Neville they ruin my enjoyment when i know they are doing our games. Carragher sold his soul to sky tv years ago and has become boring along with his partner Nevile they have become the Gray and Keys of sky tv time to move them on.