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27 Jan 2024 21:29:50
Meltdown incoming Ed's.
Xavi leaving Barcelona at the end of the season.,
1.) 27 Jan 2024 23:07:46
I imagine Jurgen would enjoy working in a different climate for his next job, but just don't see him going to a club with a backdrop of complex politics and renound player power.
I believe that he will take a year out, with the German national job being the most likely, since it would allow more time to live, however, my outside bet as far as club football goes would be Athletico, with Napoli a distant second.
Whatever you do Jurgen, bless you and your family, we wish you the very best.
2.) 28 Jan 2024 00:45:33
Who is having this supposed meltdown and why?
3.) 28 Jan 2024 09:39:17
I’m still in full on meltdown. No one’s bigger than lfc but Klopp is damn close. A leader of people and icon for the club, City and all LFC supporters worldwide. Devastating news and a real worry we go same way as when Dalglish left. Klopp gets every ounce out of his players, extra 10% which is only reason we have won a lot of those games this year. If that goes we are a top 6 team at best. They should have given Klopp a sabbatical year to recharge.
Given Linders the chance to step up and prove himself. Klopp has said in his interview Linders is a key man in all of this. For those of us who remember what Souness did and the decades it took to recover and only after a one-off legend like Klopp came in did we get back to where we were, it is definitely full on meltdown for me.
4.) 28 Jan 2024 13:24:34
Seems unlikely that Ljinders is in serious consideration for the job given his departure has been announced too.
5.) 28 Jan 2024 21:38:25
I find it odd seeing a few posts calling for lijnders to be given the role when last season everyone was bemoaning his influence on Klopp towards tactics played and kicking off about the release of his book. Back then any tactical change was attributed to his influence and it seemed many slammed him for taking us away from Klopps ethos of "heavy metal" football. I personally would look for a clean break. He'd be under immense pressure to maintain the status quo and any failures would bring immense pressure immediately. I'm not sure he has the experience or gravitas to manage that yet.
6.) 28 Jan 2024 22:07:02
Time for us all to put our big boys pants on. Jurgen has been absolutely brilliant and has made a grown-ups decision. We have to be grown-ups too, enjoy the rest of the season and then get excited about what’s next.
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22 Apr 2024 18:56:31
I'd go for Slot
Absolute machine.
{Ed025's Note - love it mate..
1.) 22 Apr 2024 19:38:33
Not sure he’s worth the gamble personally.
2.) 22 Apr 2024 19:41:30
We'll have hit the Jackpot if we go for Slot.
{Ed025's Note - nice one Taurus...i hope he gets the job just for the jokes mate.. :)
3.) 22 Apr 2024 19:44:57
Haha brilliant gents.
I think we’ve hit the jackpot with this one.
4.) 22 Apr 2024 19:53:21
I’d press hold on this one.
5.) 22 Apr 2024 19:55:59
Taurus you beat me to the punch there mate.
6.) 22 Apr 2024 20:23:28
There'll be some japes about his name if he does sign.
Aaaah, metal slots and some strimmer wire. Nudge nudge wink wink, I've got a pocketful of pretty green.
7.) 22 Apr 2024 20:29:16
Imagine if we got Slot and Toney. That would be a match made in Vegas.
8.) 22 Apr 2024 21:19:08
Would be we have to sign sterling and cash.
{Ed025's Note - and with Gravenbirch...that would be 3 lemons in a row JK.. :)
9.) 22 Apr 2024 21:23:17
Arne will be back.
{Ed025's Note - good stuff Ron..
10.) 22 Apr 2024 21:39:02
Time to hold your plumbs lads it looks like we're in bandit country.
11.) 22 Apr 2024 21:49:48
I think Arne will Slot right in at Liverpool.
12.) 23 Apr 2024 01:23:43
Surely with Slot sterling and cash we’d finally be able to afford Mbappe and to clone prime Dalglish.
13.) 23 Apr 2024 06:59:33
Good choice imo, Slot would fit right in.
14.) 23 Apr 2024 07:32:49
Going backwards if we do get slot. lol might as well just get back Rodger’s or Rafa. ? be back to a medicore team.
15.) 23 Apr 2024 08:21:52
We weren't mediocre under Rafa.
I wish we had one of the midfields we had under him. I reckon we'd win the League this season with the likes Gerrard, Alonso, Mascherano and Sissoko.
Rafa was up against Ferguson though. Like Klopp is up against Guardiola.
12 Apr 2024 11:45:48
Our recent run of form has been disappointing and our performances (even in some of the wins ) have left a lot to be desired
I was going to post the following after the United match but refrained
Last season was awful compared with what went before
We finished 5th - 4points off a CL place and a full 22points off the winners
We conceded 47 league goals which has been our highest total conceded since 2015/ 16
We exited both the league cup and FA Cup in round 4 and got smashed by Real Madrid in the CL
We have to keep some perspective
To go from that position to challenging for the title and winning silverware is progress
Yes recently we haven't performed that well but we are still IMO a squad that needs adding to and that isn't going to happen overnight.
Realistically it has been not changing that squad early enough that has hampered us if anything
To be where we are after the season we had last time out is not something to be sniffed at - securing CL football this season was a priority and we should still be able to do that.
It's almost as if Klopp leaving has added additional expectation to what we can do.
We want to win everything - but we can't expect to win everything
Let's keep on the level, keep supporting all our players and enjoy the run-in.
1.) 12 Apr 2024 13:48:13
Hopefully last nite has given us a jolt and our players get back to playing how they can, as u say paisley we've been poor from man utd game in cup. slow, sluggish not sharp anywhere over the field. We give opposition a sitter in 1st couple of minutes of every game which to me means we not switched on, sheff utd Brighton and atlanta shouldn't be getting a sitter inside 2mins at anfield. eack of them 3 games we where 1-0 down or shouldve been that quick. I woulD expect last nite was rock bottom and will see a much improved performance sunday.
2.) 12 Apr 2024 14:09:55
I get your point but even if additions are needed it’s clear to me that we are a top top team with probably the best manager in the world, there’s no reason for us to crumble like that against Atalanta, however good of a team they are, clearly lots of people here know that we can and should do better. Of course that doesn’t mean that klopp or the players should play like they deserve a free pass to go through, that’s what’s inexcusable.
Of course they can still turn it around and I think it’s not outside the realm of possibility. If anything this team has given us a lot of joy this season, and they are good enough to not let themselves and us down.
3.) 12 Apr 2024 14:13:59
Spot on, Paisley and Digger. The fact that we are where we are during essentially a rebuilding season is a testament to Klopp and the players. Things are not perfect for sure but at the end of the day, our guys have risen and answered the call way more often than not this season.
I get it. The last two results and perfs. were not up to standard and hurt really bad. Our boys screwed up massively and they know it. Last night was the absolute worst we have played this season, hands down. However, It’s time to regroup and make the final push right now. With more heavy hitters now back, they will bring some more freshness and new energy into the squad. On to Palace and Up Da Pool!
31 Mar 2024 19:00:04
Ed's
Outside of Amorim who would you like to see as our next manager?
For me I think we need to look at someone who plays a similar way to what we do know (otherwise player changes are required) and has a track record of batting well above their average (competing with the financial muscle of Chelsea and City will be a challenge) .
None spring to mind as fitting the bill to me- any stand out for you?
{Ed001's Note - no one stands out at all, sorry.}
1.) 31 Mar 2024 22:51:53
P79, there ain't anyone else out there, man. It is what it is.
2.) 31 Mar 2024 23:07:05
I still don't think Potter should be entirely discounted. He earned his chance at Chelsea and then was given a poisoned chalice with very little time. It was never going to work for him and they still continue to stutter.
Xabi was the only individual who immediately stood out, but in his absence there aren’t too many people who you would think you’d like to see which would have the sticking power and bring the stability we will need.
We don't want a caretaker or to drift from manager to manager every couple of years so I wouldn’t have an issue with bringing in a young, hungry Englishman who had garnered a great reputation prior to the disaster that is Chelsea (he’d have been nuts to turn it down after all) .
The fact that so many here are so quickly dismissive of any the options is nuts. We have to accept that we will likely have to suffer the dreaded transition with whoever it is that comes in.
3.) 31 Mar 2024 23:51:13
Potter should be dismissed as an option. We’re not a mid table club. If we appointed him, we’d be taking on a manager whose reputation is in the bin and a manager who has done nothing since failing so spectacularly at Chelsea. Why would we want a Chelsea reject manager? Potter would drag us to mid table, that’s not transition that is failure.
4.) 31 Mar 2024 23:53:31
This is Liverpool and I'm a lifelong Liverpool fan. I want the next manager to have at least won a couple of titles and championships) if from European leagues) so that he has a fair chance of continuing Klopp's work with the players he is leaving behind. I want to continue challenging and winning. Being hungry and young doesn't cut it for me as being enough. Neither is being an Englishman; we're past that stage since long.
I thought I'd explain why I'm dismissive completely of Potter.
5.) 01 Apr 2024 01:36:54
Brendan Rogers or Tommy Tuchel ArAy?
Success in an inferior league is a low bar for me.
They have to have other traits.
6.) 01 Apr 2024 07:47:11
Ron, given that the EPL is generally considered to be the best league in the World, anyone from another league will be judged as coming from an "inferior level league". Loads of managers have come to the EPL from lower leagues and done well: Mourinho, Guardiola, Conte, and even our own Klopp, as a few examples. The key is to find someone "on the way up" on his career path and create the environment where he can keep going up; very much as Klopp did.
7.) 01 Apr 2024 08:40:12
What I’m saying is winning titles elsewhere should not be the criteria - Rogers, Tuchel. Pep and Klopp had other traits. Pep had resurrected Barcelona and turned them into the best side in Europe/ the world. Both Klopp and Pep had distinctive styles of football which would translate well to the premier league. Klopp knew how to motivate players too.
Coming from an inferior league is not a negative, but it provides the context for their success. I don’t really care if they’ve won titles elsewhere, I want to know their football philosophy - will it translate to the fast paced ultra-aggressive PL- and I want to know how they are at motivating players (young players, established players and superstar players) and I want to know how they respond to extreme pressure.
8.) 01 Apr 2024 10:45:10
Ron, I don't disagree with you at all, we are actually interested in the same things. But going back to the original post, do you see Graham Potter as having enough of those traits which you mentioned given his record (relative success) at Brighton and (relative failure) at Chelsea?
9.) 01 Apr 2024 12:01:05
I do ArAy. That’s why he shouldn’t be discounted IMO. Young, hungry and English isn’t the be all etc, but it’s a bonus for me. Less likely to have their head turned by one of the other Euro giants and more chance of being a legacy manager. I may be wrong, but I think only 3 or 4 foreign mangers have lasted more than 5 years at a prem club. Most teams with consistent success have benefitted from having a consistent manager.
I don’t particularly see what he did wrong at Chelsea and if he were still at Brighton he’d almost certainly be in the conversation.
I think people just have to get used to the idea that the next appointment will not bring the same excitement as Klopp did from the off and by starting with a negative attitude of every name that is not Klopp or Alsonso it doesn’t bode well for the inevitable patience that will be needed.
05 Feb 2024 18:16:00
Okay- I've got my Flak jacket and tin helmet on so here goes.
What's thoughts on cashing in on Trent
For me- over a number of months including last season- he's going through the motions.
It may be he's lost his edge and needs a new challenge but he's nowhere near the player he was
And that's not down to playing the inverted role or playing in midfield occasionally- it's down to him looking lethargic (yesterday was a game too soon for him admittedly)
I also think Bradley's energy is infectious and gets everyone else playing at a higher tempo
Could be Coutinho all over- change to strengthen in many positions as a result.
1.) 05 Feb 2024 18:28:49
He was playing some of his best football before injury, bit of an overreaction no?
2.) 05 Feb 2024 18:38:03
Amazing how quickly we forget things when we get beaten.
Trent was probably our best and most effective player in the previous two meetings with Arsenal, which happens only a few weeks ago. You might need to go back and look at the performances. Do the same for the match in April too.
Yesterday, he was clearly not quite fit. In addition to this, the right hand side ahead of him was completely new. Klopp alluded to both of those points.
When it comes to facing Martinelli, Trent isn't expected to track his speed/ runs but rather to allow Konate to take of that and be on hand to tidy up / launch attacks after the ball has been recovered. We just need to reframe what we think Trent's game should be vs what we used to think a right back had to do.
Yesterday, we effectively played with 10 men when off the ball as Gravenberch is just not Kloppball ready. That exposed Trent more than anything.
Bradley would have struggled with Gravenberch in front of him too.
As for doing it to raise funds, you don't sell the Scouser in the Team.
3.) 05 Feb 2024 18:49:43
Not a chance. Trent is amazing, from Liverpool and future captain. You put him at the top of the list not to to be sold. Untouchable.
It's small club thinking to cash in on your stars particularly at Trent's age.
4.) 05 Feb 2024 18:51:10
It’s a no from me!
5.) 05 Feb 2024 18:51:25
I’m not referring to yesterday game, I did say yesterday was probably too early for him
To me he looks like he’s not enjoying being there.
6.) 05 Feb 2024 19:08:25
People say Grav doesn’t make a difference on the pitch but the counter argument is he makes all our players worse apparently.
{Ed025's Note - and yet some of his attributes are "world class" JK...apparently.. :)
7.) 05 Feb 2024 19:11:48
You should watch the latest Inside Training clip on YouTube Paisley79. You’ll see a happier player.
8.) 05 Feb 2024 19:13:48
Stopped reading at 'What's thoughts on cashing in on Trent'.
9.) 05 Feb 2024 19:22:07
No from me. He can be a worldy at times. Can’t base it on how he played yesterday. Clearly unfit after returning from injury. Bradley is hopefully going to be special too.
10.) 05 Feb 2024 19:45:49
Me too, Salah. I scrolled down to see the responses rather than read the rest. That would be time wasted I am never getting back.
11.) 05 Feb 2024 19:51:50
Stop it. Lol
He’s probably the very last player I’d cash in on.
12.) 05 Feb 2024 20:24:56
Trent will be our next captain. No way should he be sold.
I wish though he would look more interested and intense in his defending. One time Martinelli went past him so easily and Trent just bloody stood there and never moved. That wasn’t about speed it was about desire.
13.) 05 Feb 2024 20:37:03
I’d recommend going to see a doctor for your case of kneejerkitis
We didn’t move to sell Coutinho. He wanted to go, an offer came and we worked with him.
I’ll miss when Klopp goes cos I’m not sure we will get another manager as fiercely loyal and protective of his players because they are our players. What he said about Joe Gomez and nursing him through his injuries is what we do because he’s our boy. When majority here would have cut their losses asap for the next shiny toy.
Will 100% miss Klopp’s heart when he goes.
14.) 05 Feb 2024 21:46:38
What on Earth for? Knee jerk reaction much?
15.) 06 Feb 2024 00:52:51
Exactly Faith. Some see Klopp’s loyalty as a weakness but I think it’s a major strength.
These boys know that he’s got their back no matter what the outside world is saying which is why they’ll run themselves into the ground for him.
There have been numerous players in the current first 11 that have been criticised and called not good enough but he’s stuck by them and reaped the rewards for it.
I will definitely miss his humanity when he goes.
16.) 06 Feb 2024 02:43:26
Not sell, but perhaps not right back any more,
17.) 06 Feb 2024 03:00:34
Because of one bad game when he wasn’t fully fit? Jesus.
18.) 06 Feb 2024 06:58:43
Yo Ed25.what's up mate? All good.
That was a "World Class" capitulation by us. we were just utter dross on Sunday
For the sake of peace and happiness. LFC should refrain from buying any player whose name is Ryan. Will save some of us fans a lot of grief and despair
??.
{Ed025's Note - it was very poor JLC , but not the end of the world mate and im sure your "worldies" will bounce back this week..
19.) 06 Feb 2024 07:24:24
Imagine if we lose 2 games on the trot?
20.) 06 Feb 2024 08:18:28
FlashTheRed, hide you wife and kids, double bolt your doors and windows cos the sky will be falling at that point.
21.) 06 Feb 2024 08:32:58
Surprisingly that 4 posters gave the thumbs up ?. It’s a definite ? for me.
22.) 06 Feb 2024 09:12:22
Just stop playing the lad at right back and stick in midfield for crying out load! Job done! A midfield of TAA sobosla and Macca / endo, rotated with Elliot, GB, Thiago etc sounds good.
23.) 06 Feb 2024 09:28:04
Thing is with trent, a decent winger can easily beat him, this pushing up and creating goals and chances comes at a price for the defence. So move him in midfield because we've got what looks like an excellent right back in Bradley .
24.) 06 Feb 2024 09:44:38
I think he thinks he ready for midfield and wants to be there, he should be there, he should be the cover at right back now, not Bradley.
25.) 06 Feb 2024 11:00:14
So we don't want two world class players in each position, then?
26.) 06 Feb 2024 11:32:51
Great footballer, terrible defender. Nowhere near captain material!
27.) 06 Feb 2024 14:48:20
I blame Dolce and Gabana for this, personally.
28.) 06 Feb 2024 18:06:38
Trent needs to be in midfield. Everyone knows it, he wants it. It's only a matter of time. The only question then will be which of our current midfielders goes to make room because we have way too many now.
29.) 07 Feb 2024 07:46:47
to be fair, we've always had loads of midfielders. We've carried 8-9 consistently for years.
30.) 07 Feb 2024 07:53:44
Like I said in a different thread last week, two good games from Bradley and we are a couple of weeks away from suggesting we get rid of TAA. My mistake was that it was less than a week before someone put his flak jacket and tin hat on before suggesting it. It would be funny if it wasn’t sad (or so predictable) .
31.) 07 Feb 2024 20:42:13
West Derby Wanderer3, recency bias does not even begin to describe what you just posted, my guy.
26 Jan 2024 12:07:22
Just watched his interview
Genuine, honest, perhaps a bit sad
What a man
Forget manager, coach, tactician
Just - what a great man
Thank you Jurgen.
1.) 26 Jan 2024 12:29:58
I was saddened when he said he needed to find a new path in life again. That hurt.
2.) 26 Jan 2024 12:30:19
Gutted. Head spinning. Was not expecting this at all. He seemed revitalised working with this new group.
22 Apr 2024 20:50:06
It’s the lure of London
His wife is a designer I think so probably thinking about her business interests too
And - he may have more say in transfers at Wet Spam plus a bigger transfer budget.
22 Apr 2024 18:54:46
Who is on the flight tracker?
22 Apr 2024 18:51:06
Not to be inflammatory Ed but how come Dyche hasn’t been getting pelters from the start?
Everton fans didn’t like Rafa’s football (really it was about him being former Liverpool boss, wasn’t it? ) but Dyche is even worse.
{Ed025's Note - i suppose we were happy that he kept us in the PL Paisley as that was his main brief, we were hoping that with decent coaching we could move up and go forward, turns out that his ethos is to play defensively and hoof the ball up front where a lone striker with no support is supposed to score goals, very archaic and boring just like the fat Spanish waiter in fact, we dont have good players or money to spend mate so its not an easy gig, so its all about coaching and bringing youth through and those 2 are unable or too scared to do that, fans want to be entertained in the end and those 2 dinosaurs are not fit for purpose im afraid..
22 Apr 2024 18:11:35
Surely his club would be apoplectic about this?
Have they still not got games left?
10 Apr 2024 14:32:09
Souness was a success when Rangers went absolutely mad with their spending
It was when English clubs were banned from European competition and a fair few players headed north over the border, including Souness who was Rangers player manager from ‘86 to ‘91
The season before Souness took over they had one non-Scottish player make an appearance
They signed:
Chris Woods
Terry Butcher
Mark Falco
Trevor Francis
Richard Gough
Mark Walters
Gary Stevens
Andy Gray
Mel Sterland
Trevor Steven
Mo Johnston
Nigel Spackman
during the time English clubs were banned from European competition
In Scotland- I could manage that list and win trophies.
26 Apr 2024 16:07:07
OP - have looked at some Feyenoord games on YouTube over the past couple of days
They were highlights only though
I’d say the system is very fluid -at times the 3 behind are very wide and at other times they are a bit narrower
I don’t think I saw any of the 3 though crossing from wide (that tended to be the FB) so I’m guessing they will be tucked in a bit more centrally
That requires technically gifted players so I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s Gakpo one side and Szob the other.
26 Apr 2024 16:01:36
Ecogsi
I posted similar earlier in the season and got prayers
“He’s world class” - “perfect for midfield”
Fact is he doesn’t tackle, doesn’t provide the energy that he used to, and switches off defensively
None of those can happen with a midfield player or we would get rinsed through the middle
We could get a very good fee, play Bradley, and strengthen other areas.
25 Apr 2024 19:46:03
Rigsby
I reckon he should have played the kids more often
Our poor performances have built since senior players returned
Which is why I think they have tapped out of listening to Klopp.
24 Apr 2024 06:25:45
WDW3 - he’s not the messiah
He’s a very naughty boy.
23 Apr 2024 18:16:48
Slot has proven he can break the monopoly of Ajax and PSV
Not just with Feyenoord but nearly with AZ
He’s young and could be here a while -creating a real legacy.