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01 Jun 2025 16:46:50
Talks at an 'advanced' stage between Brentford and the club re. Kelleher being reported tonight - not sure of the transfer fee involved but have heard links repeatedly over the last week now.
1.) 01 Jun 2025 17:07:39
Reported as £12.5m potentially rising to £18m with add ons.
2.) 01 Jun 2025 17:08:07
Here we go. 18 million. Bargain for Brentford and ddcent funds for us. Really really wish him well. he's played his part in recent silverware.
3.) 01 Jun 2025 17:16:45
I think we have been shafted a bit there. Kelleher is worth more than 12.5m for sure.
4.) 01 Jun 2025 17:24:46
Some kind of a handshake deal here with Brentford? Would have imagined competition for his signature. Trying to keep the relationship for other signings after Carvalho and Sepp last year?
5.) 01 Jun 2025 17:24:54
That seems on the very low side for me ramsdale went for more at least twice and he is awful. And we just got £10m for Trent for only with a month before we got nothing so feels like we should have got maybe a little more.
6.) 01 Jun 2025 17:28:49
Depends if there is a Brentford player coming the other way, might explain the fee.
7.) 01 Jun 2025 17:30:37
25 plus easily.
8.) 01 Jun 2025 17:33:49
Crikey, we complain when we don’t sell players (“we’re ruining his career etc”) and we complain when we do!
Kelleher has 1 year left of his contract and has started 25 league games for us (albeit 40+ in other comps) .
I think £12.5m rising to £18m is pretty decent for a keeper who hasn’t been No 1.
9.) 01 Jun 2025 17:35:43
I'd have thought so too, Nevada, but rather offload him for £12.5m than keep him for ages and end up letting him leave on a free after about 14 loan moves, like Phillips.
10.) 01 Jun 2025 17:28:19
He only had 1 year left on his contract, so £18m with add ons feels fair. I see the usual suspect accounts on Twitter are trying to drive the narrative we’ve been robbed, but I’d be interested to know if a backup GK with 1 year left on their deal has ever been sold for more than £18m inclusive.
11.) 01 Jun 2025 17:48:38
I’d heard that Spurs and Chelsea were both interested and likely to offer more, but would you really want to sell those two a very good keeper when we may face them in the champions league? I certainly wouldnt. Take the money from Brentford as it doesn’t benefit a direct rival for the league or champions league and with a year left on his contract too, I’d say it’s a decent deal taking into account everything.
12.) 01 Jun 2025 17:53:33
Wonder is it a straight one off payment deal so suits us with cash in hand so to speak.
13.) 01 Jun 2025 17:53:34
Seems he has gone went to Brenrford with Brentfords keeper going to leverkusen. Sweetened the pot for the wirtz deal i would imagine.
Good luck to Kelleher, seems a nice lad and with good character.
14.) 01 Jun 2025 17:55:58
Can Mbueno play anywhere other than LW?
15.) 01 Jun 2025 18:06:03
Yes RW lol.
16.) 01 Jun 2025 18:09:19
Could see us going for Collins later in the window to be fair. He’d be a great replacement for Gomez or Quansah if they leave.
17.) 01 Jun 2025 18:20:02
Maybe it's all part of the Wirtz deal. Leverkusen wanted Flekken cheap, so we helped them out by helping Brentford with a similarish fee replacement. This keeping both clubs sweet.
I mean. There's Wirtz ideas out there.
18.) 01 Jun 2025 18:21:18
Would you say he’s quick enough Adam?
When I’ve watched him (infrequently) I see him as a younger Nat Phillips - emergency only but doesn’t have the recovery pace to be confident in him the way we play?
19.) 01 Jun 2025 18:28:31
I can see the logic @somethingred better to sell for that now than lose him for free in a year.
Just a bit of a sting to get 12.5m for a player who pretty much everyone agrees has been a key player most of the season.
As for Viktor point about better than going to a rival - unless it's arsenal or city it's not really relevant as they're going to be the only rivals for the league next year.
20.) 01 Jun 2025 18:33:04
Collins looks shoddy any time I've seen him play, MK, albeit that's mostly for Ireland who are a mess.
21.) 01 Jun 2025 18:34:52
From what I have heard online, the fee could be to help with the Wirtz deal as even with a year left does seem on the low side for a top class player.
22.) 01 Jun 2025 18:47:59
SA Kelleher is a great penalty saver, and a very competent goalkeeper. I don’t think he is “top class” though, otherwise he would have displaced Ali as our no 1. Who is top class.
23.) 01 Jun 2025 18:49:28
£12.5M is way too low. It should have been £18m plus add ons up to 25m easy. Yes in the last year of his contract, but we replace him with a keeper that will still be number 2 at twice thr price!
Baz.
24.) 01 Jun 2025 18:56:10
Hello Vango,
Can Mbeumo play anywhere other than LW? How about a Goalkeeper!
Seriously, the powerful build on him is similar to Ozzy and Lukaku means can he play through the middle as a number 9 if Arne thinks so, in his early days he was a centre forward and use to be a twin striking partner for Toney (amber gambler! )
Mbeumo is 26 on 07 August 2025,last EPL season: 20 premier goals,7 assists, played a full season bar one game 37 premier apps, they are pretty good numbers are they not!
Although if Arne was interested you would think he was part of the current Kelleher deal, but seems not? or is that why Kelleher is only valued at 18 mill, with Mbeumo coming to Arne-Field at a reduced fee with 12 months on his contract and an option for a further 12 months, Brentford will want an auction for top dollar as other EPL clubs are interested.
Mamardashvili was circa £30 million, so in effect ye getting a potential world class keeper and a back up keeper for £12 mill which is also very good business in today's market.
25.) 01 Jun 2025 19:15:25
Sorry, meant LW! And yes id take Mbueno in a heart beat if he can play centrally.
26.) 01 Jun 2025 19:22:44
Collins is an average player not up to standards of LFC he is better staying where he is at Brentford.
27.) 01 Jun 2025 18:58:33
Collins is quicker than Quansah tbh, and would be a more reliable back up than Gomez who can’t stay fit. Need a squad nowadays and you’re not getting much better than Collins to come sit on the bench for 80% of the season.
Ideally you want your 4th choice CB to be an academy player, but I don’t think any of ours are good enough even for cup games. Chambers has developed more into a LB/ LWB and he was the only one I had high hopes for. Nallo is not good enough in my opinion, and Lucky seems more of a RB to me.
Personally I’d keep Quansah but Slot doesn’t fancy him so sell why his stock is high-ish. PSR has changed the landscape and it’s now good business to shift academy players early if they’re not going to be key players.
28.) 01 Jun 2025 18:58:54
I feel like based on the reported fees being banded around for our surplus players, we might not get the best return for them. 12.5m for kelleher is a steal, he’s easily a £20-30m player in today’s inflated market. I really hope this is as part of the Wirtz deal, but then I feel we are overpaying for him as well, they rejected our first bid which should have been more than enough to get him.
Hopefully we get better deals for the likes of Nunez, jota, chiesa and Elliot, who are our other surplus assets, otherwise the financial outlay we are planning might not work to our favour from a business stand point, there will probably be a few more transferless windows coming. Let’s see how it all plays out.
29.) 01 Jun 2025 19:43:33
Looks like the moaners have been sitting on their hands while the good transfer news was coming in, and they're out in force now.
Fee is reasonably low because Kellacher is in his last year, has never been a number one in his career, and at the moment is at least a level below top quality goalies. To be honest, nearly £20m for a goalie in his last year, who everyone and his dog knew was out the door, seems like good business to me.
30.) 01 Jun 2025 20:08:45
I really don’t get the “Kelleher is worth £20-£30m” bollox!
He’s a number 2!
We paid less than £30m for a really bright prospect who is better than Kelleher and has a much higher bar, and has played over 200 first team games, 127 of which have been in a top 5 league.
Why on earth do people think Kelleher is worth the same as that?
This is nothing against Kelleher, he is the worlds best No 2, but he has been a No 2 for a long, long time.
31.) 01 Jun 2025 20:24:38
We might have got more for Kelleher last summer. We probably would have.
Nevada says the fee 'stings' because he's been 'key player most of the season'. Why does it sting? We kept a key player and won the League!
And we are getting more for Kelleher than Brentford are for Flekken. The business we have done or doing with Brentford and Leverkusen hasn't done us any harm, so far.
I remember a lot of posters questioning why we signed a keeper last summer, too. Maybe 'the clowns' behind the scenes were not sitting on their hands and doing business before we knew what was needed.
32.) 01 Jun 2025 20:27:06
I'm with MK Scouser, A top quality centre back is required for competition to VVD and Konate and cover for injuries, loss of form etc, Konate who has the potential power of another Bosman Transfer at his fingertips, this needs to addressed ASAP this Summer Window, otherwise he goes for buttons next year, I don't think players have the same enthusiasm for the club in their last year? and their performances through the coming season could highlight this, so why not take that away from the player with a more than capable centre half signing this summer, to show Ibou we will get along fine without you in the end come what may.
The way football tactics are evolving the days of the tough, rugged, no prisoners centre half are being replaced by a less physical strength centre half, but more quicker and lighter to cover the ground and make interceptions, start moves (Hansen-esque, Lawrenson) etc.
Will be interesting to see if Enrique now wants Konate this Summer for a nominal fee, or for nowt next year ( as we only got circa 10 mill for TAA because RM want to play him in the FIFA world club) if PSG don't come calling then Ibou will say RM are his dream club, as he will say also if PSG call this window! somehow I don't think RM or PSG will call at all, as they think big thundering, no nonsense, no prisoners centre backs are a thing of the past now! which last night proved most vividly!
Thanks for the recommendation above Rugby Parker, but my Holster is hanging up in the garden shed now together with my boy scouts badge?
33.) 01 Jun 2025 20:41:52
I think one of the reasons why a higher fee might have been expected was his HG status and how it's assumed that inflates their transfer fee.
34.) 01 Jun 2025 21:22:19
Come nots, it’s summer time - get yourselves out in the fresh air - it’ll improve your health and perhaps clear the mind.
35.) 01 Jun 2025 21:26:57
He is in the last year of his contract. What do we do…. hold out for more and risk losing him for free next summer if he isn’t sold? Let him sit next to Mamardashvili on the bench next year, just in case?
Everyone moans when we price players out of a move. Everyone moans when we let players go for free!
36.) 01 Jun 2025 23:01:52
Maybe we have negotiated a sell on clause. Could see that working as Brentford are a selling club and if he performs well over the next couple of seasons he could end up moving on for more money.
13 Jul 2020 10:39:55
I read Chelsea are willing to listen to offers for Kante, would he be a player we'd be interested in at all?
{Ed002's Note - Chelsea has not put Kante up for sale - there is interest in him from a couple of clubs - if one were to come up with an acceptable offer and Kante to Chelsea he wanted to move then they would not stand in his way. Liverpool have shown no interest in him and do not have the money to buy him.}
1.) 13 Jul 2020 11:27:39
We have fab why would we want kante.
2.) 13 Jul 2020 11:54:28
I would take him in a heartbeat. Like ed002 says though we can’t afford him, that’s a silly money transfer and we don’t have silly money.
3.) 13 Jul 2020 12:05:14
Personally, I think Kante’s legs are going and there’s not many miles left on the clock, I’m more than happy with Fabinho personally as his all round game is better.
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08 Apr 2025 15:20:41
I see all the transfer news and rumours, surely:
- forwards is a priority? Nunez is do frustrating and Jota never fit and better better as a sub. Would we sell and replace both?
- if we sold both, would Isak and Cunha be doable? Cunha about £62m and Isak £120m
- sales wise, talk of £40-50m fr Jota (Woves), £40m for Kelleher (Chelsea) and £60-70m for Nunez (Saudi) - paper talk maybe but that would certainly pay for Isak you would think?
- if we signed Cunha then as the 10, he could perhaps play up front too in games instead of Isak and on bench for others with Eliott and Szobs the other 2 rotating
- midfield wise, we have Mac, Grav, Szobs, Elliott, Jones, Endo, McConnell. Plenty for 3 spots, more so if you have Cunha as an option as a 10. Think we are ok midfield wise but rotation needed. Tbh, Endo and Elliott should have had more games. Games at Forest, Everton, Brentford etc were crying out for a more combative midfielder
- defence wise there are issues - Robbo cannot play every game, would need rotated - do we pay £40m or so on Kerkez or give the like of Beck games?
- CB too I feel we need one, or two even - Hato been spoken about as an option
- Could see Slot maybe sell Tsimikas, Quansah too if he just isn't sure about him. Then, what about Gomez? Has both regular great and awful games, could Slot sell him too?
Look a lot will obviously depend on those 3 contracts though, but I just hope the club strengthen where we really need it.
1.) 08 Apr 2025 16:39:10
Next 2 or 3 windows.
RESIGN Jaros, VVD and Salah
Sell Or leaving
TAA, Gomez, Konate, Tsimi, Robbo, Endo, Bajetic, Morton, Diaz, Doak, Jota and Nunez maybe Gordon.
SignIn
Aina, Tah, Hujisen, Kerkez, Hato, Baleba, Cunha, Delap, Etikete,
squad::
ALI, Mars, Jaros
Aina, Bradley, VVD, Hujisen, Tah, Quansah, Hato, Kerkez
SOBS, Mac, Grav, Baleba, Jones, Elliot, McConnel
Salah, Gapko, Chisea, Cunha, Delap, Etikete, Dans.
2.) 08 Apr 2025 16:52:14
Gomez has to go before Quansah. I wonder would Bournemouth be interested in taking Beck as part of any deal for Kerkez?
3.) 08 Apr 2025 17:15:09
Delap is an average PL player at best. Hopefully he goes to Man U.
{Ed025's Note - i hope he comes to Everton Mark, i rate him mate..
4.) 08 Apr 2025 19:43:57
If we get £40 million for Kelleher it will be the best bit of business in the history of the PL.
5.) 08 Apr 2025 21:27:04
We ain’t winning anything with that midfield. We’re seeing over the past month them being ran into the ground and with the limited quality replacing them. Still missing a world beating mid.
6.) 08 Apr 2025 23:40:32
Wouldnt be surprised to see Harvey, Endo and Morton all being sold Frode with money going towards one top midfielder. With how small a squad Slot needs we don't need 7 MF's and that's without Trey and McConnell. Have to admit it would be sad to see Harvey go though.
01 Apr 2025 08:38:08
Ed, not Liverpool related per se but thought I'd ask - I'm reading reports on how Chelsea have turned a £90m plus loss into a £128m profit in the books for the financial year due to:
- the sale of two hotels to BlueCo
- the sale of the women's team to BlueCo
Now given BlueCo is owned by their owner, is he not just transferring money between his assets then?
I ask in reference then to FSG possibly buying Malaga and entering this multi-club format whereby assets, players and capital, seem to be transferred between them - are such transactions regulated as they would between rival clubs? Such as fair market value for assets to prevent 'overpayment' or even to see if such a transfer is tangible - is it feasible or a realistic belief that company b would make such a deal based upon their historical evidence?.
{Ed001's Note - UEFA regulations forbid doing it between clubs. It is a Premier League loophole they are cheating by using and it is only going to lead to complications later.}
1.) 01 Apr 2025 09:39:13
The way the Chelsea owner is constantly exploiting loopholes just seems like a car crash waiting to happen. It's very difficult to stay one step ahead all the time. Sooner or later, it will catch up.
2.) 01 Apr 2025 09:48:34
It's perfectly legal however, yes, most definitely a loophole.
The question is really how these assets are valued. For related party transactions (which this is as its a sale of several assets to an associated company) they need to be conducted at market value. Usually this involves some form of 'advice' received by experts who will value and then justify their valuation.
That being said, if the reported figures are true, I struggle to see how Chelsea will get away with this. They have listed almost £200mil as profit on disposal of subsidiaries - meaning effectively they sold their women's team (We only know of this disposal) for around that £200mil figure. Absolutely no chance it's worth that much.
UEFA are far stricter on these sort of rules so you can imagine they will absolutely make a case over this at some point. As for the Premier League perhaps they are investigating the values for APT?
3.) 01 Apr 2025 09:51:23
I read about this yesterday. It really is flagrant cheating in my book to "buy" the woman's team when you're essentially the same company with 2 different names. No wonder Chelsea have been spending like my wife on Amazon, if they knew they could do this in the future.
Not that I would ever want us tied up in shady dealings like this ed, but is this essentially something that is currently open to all clubs in the EPL operating under a company name?
{Ed001's Note - yes. Until they close the loophole.}
4.) 01 Apr 2025 12:16:16
Correct me if I'm wrong Ed but was this the same loophole City used to get around the FFP rulings? Or was it an entirely different one that has since closed up?
{Ed001's Note - Citeh have used a number of different things, I have lost track, but I am sure they will have used this one amongst them.}
5.) 01 Apr 2025 12:24:30
Thanks Tris, it just sounded dodgy reading it and, whilst legal or in a legal 'grey area I guess, it represents a serious issue that may be used to circumvent the rules thus would need closed.
6.) 01 Apr 2025 12:43:40
The fact that it is possible to do this and be within the rules proves fairly conclusively, in my opinion, that the rules are not fit for purpose.
No coincidence that 9 out of the last 11 Premier League titles have been won by Manchester City and Chelsea.
7.) 01 Apr 2025 14:05:16
Cheating . end of.
8.) 01 Apr 2025 14:28:07
Is what chelsea are doing the same as what man city owners did - sell naming rights for ground to the brother of owner of city . So if it is have they broke FFP rules?
25 Feb 2025 03:50:39
How is Bajcetic doing?
Heard some negative things about him in Germany, being late for training etc
Read a piece there that said whilst Las Palmas results are very poor, he has been decent (in his 4 games) and highlighted his performance in a 2 nil defeat to Barcelona.
1.) 25 Feb 2025 06:01:16
If he’s late for training etc then it would continue a trend that he had whilst here at LFC.
2.) 25 Feb 2025 07:11:13
He was late for training when he was at Leipzig and was fined for it. Not sure how he's doing for Las Palmas now though.
3.) 25 Feb 2025 07:16:50
They are an hour in front in Spain so he might be more punctual, there.
He might return to us when the clocks go forward.
4.) 25 Feb 2025 09:13:14
By all accounts he had a great game against Barca.
5.) 25 Feb 2025 10:02:49
The lad has talent in spades. Let's hope he can channel it correctly because he can be a real asset for us going forward.
6.) 25 Feb 2025 10:38:34
To be fair, he was probably late in Germany because he was supposed to be in Salzburg.
7.) 25 Feb 2025 20:43:49
Apparently he has been rated amongst the best players in every game he has played for Las Palmas. Unfortunately they have also lost every game he has played.
23 Feb 2025 18:45:16
If Carlsberg did weekend's eh lads - cannot be bad to that at all!
11 points clear, come on Liverpool!
29 May 2025 07:51:52
Davey Sulls, when I read that I got an image of Casino Royale lol, Richard Hughes tied to the chair with Akira standing over him, twirling that rope
'You will tell me who we are signing'
???.
28 May 2025 20:08:31
The obvious class strikers are Haaland, Isak, Lewandowski, Mbappe - all no chance you would think
Lot of strikers mentioned regularly on here, possibly Martinez at Inter not mentioned and then Harry Kane, although I've mentioned him before - jeez the goals he would score for us lol but can't think of many others at the top level - do love a good rumour though
Ronaldo leaving Saudi Haha?
23 May 2025 14:09:34
Bayern apparently took it for granted and their conduct has irritated Wirtz. His sister was also going to be signed for the women's team but that has been shelved now too
'Apparently' being the key word in all of these reports though - possibly worth noting though that Leverkusen and their fans generally hate Bayern, and although many of the clubs dislike the way they continuously poach the top players from their rivals every year Leverkusen seems to be a degree stroger in those feelings so, again rumour has it, Wirtz may not wish to tarnish his image and standing with those fans.
19 May 2025 13:21:09
Isak and Wirtz would be some coup though wouldn't it lol?
We look to have Frimpong almost over the line and contact reported with Bournemouth for Kerkez is reported so would be nice to get those 2 done early
The other priorities are ST and CB. We definitely need to improve upon Jota and Nunez, who both may be sold
CB is an interesting one - VVD and Konate have been solid but Gomez has not played a lot and Quansah does not seem to be rated too highly so an improvement could be made. The issue is if Konate wants to leave - we may need a starter instead of a back up
Midfield wise, we may see another in but I would then expect Endo or Elliott to leave.
17 May 2025 13:29:00
Defensive players we are linked with:
- Frimpong: £29m
- Hato: £20m
- Kerkez: £45m
You would think they are all doable at those prices
Then we have rumours the following could be sold:
- Nunez: £70m
- Jota: £35m
- Tsimikas: £15m
- Quansah: talk of £30m, I'd have thought around £15m but who knows
- Kelleher: £25m
We need a striker, 2 if we sell both Nunez and Jota. Options:
- Isak: £120m plus - never going to happen but would be unreal
- Oshimen: £80m - doing well in Turkey
- Sesko: £70-£80m - well thought of but unknown really
- Ekite: £70-£80m - personally, I do not know a lot about him
- Cunha: £60m release clause
- Kane: £50-£60m release clause
Honestly Cunha would be a cracker, at £60m seems very doable
Heard a wildcard rumour of Kane for a similar price lol and you know what, for a couple of seasons he would be unreal
Kane probably not going to happen but got me thinking, him and Cunha for £120m is doable, especially considering sales - Cunha can play as a 10 so you could rest one of Sobz, Mac or Grav and play the other two
Having a striker like Kane would be unreal - Salah gets double and triple marked but would defenders really leave the likes of a Kane type striker in the box? Would be an awesome attacking force
When you factor in sales, the likes of that is doable, those sales could add nicely to our transfer budget but I do hope Slot is backed to build HIS team this summer
-.
14 Jun 2025 08:46:42
Great question to have in fairness. I'd imagine it to be a similar 4-3-3 so:
Goalkeeper:
- Allison
Defence:
- Kerkez
- VVD
- Konate
- Frimpong
Midfield: (this is where Wirtz allows for a bit of rotation) :
- we play with Grav and Mac further back and Sobz in the 10 but now:
- any 2 of Grav, Mac or Sobz
- Wirtz in the 10 role
- all 3 last season moved back and forward supporting each other and I think we will see that again
- also, have the option of resting Wirtz and playing Sobz too
Attack:
- Gakpo/ Diaz
- new CF
- Salah
Note that Frimpong can play rw very well so can offer cover for Salah - Wirtz can play across the front 3 but I think Slot has told him he will be the 10, he would have had Musiala in that role too at Bayern and I think a big part of his decision was Slot's plans for him and the team
The next big things are:
- get the Kerkez deal done
- another CB needed - might see Quansah sold
- the CF position: a great striker would be unreal.
05 Jun 2025 17:21:05
He would miss a chance but get his head down and work hard and keep pressing defenders and linked up well but since the turn of the year his work rate, attitude or whatever just seems off - his pressing just no effective anymore, link up poor too
The truly irritating things are the sheer amount of offsides he gets and obviously the finishing. The finishing so frustrating as he misses sitter after sitter then scores two clinical crackers tbf like in that Newcastle game and we are all left going wtf?
03 Jun 2025 13:14:37
Apart from the likes of Kane, Lewandowski, Isak, Haaland, Mbappe - who else would you rate as an absolute top.
02 Jun 2025 13:12:44
Lol Zeddicus, I read that line as being sung.
01 Jun 2025 21:54:52
Name pronounced differently in Ireland ASB, up north, where I live, it is pronounced Key-ven, down South, where he is from, it is pronounced Quee-ven.