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13 Jul 2020 10:39:55
I read Chelsea are willing to listen to offers for Kante, would he be a player we'd be interested in at all?


{Ed002's Note - Chelsea has not put Kante up for sale - there is interest in him from a couple of clubs - if one were to come up with an acceptable offer and Kante to Chelsea he wanted to move then they would not stand in his way. Liverpool have shown no interest in him and do not have the money to buy him.}

1.) 13 Jul 2020 11:27:39
We have fab why would we want kante.

2.) 13 Jul 2020 11:54:28
I would take him in a heartbeat. Like ed002 says though we can’t afford him, that’s a silly money transfer and we don’t have silly money.

3.) 13 Jul 2020 12:05:14
Personally, I think Kante’s legs are going and there’s not many miles left on the clock, I’m more than happy with Fabinho personally as his all round game is better.




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19 Mar 2024 10:35:28
10 games to go in the League - I think we win every game and the League is ours. Will be tough but we have done these type of winning runs before.

Also, if we can smash a few teams then goal difference won't matter lol, though a draw in the Arsenal City game would be a good result for us

10 Cup Finals, and we put Sunday's disappointment behind us lads.


1.) 19 Mar 2024 11:56:36
Bill, been over Sunday already. We lost and we have only ourselves to blame hence, we need to continue working hard and improving on all fronts including managerially.

We need to do this if we want to have any chance of winning the title and that Utd fixture at OT is looming large right now. However before any of that, one game at a time like we have been doing and with the injured players coming back meaning more options off the bench, we'll be solid for the run-in, IMO.

2.) 19 Mar 2024 13:40:59
Absolutely Bill, we'll do it mate, bring the lot of them on. It's our time to shine, we'll definitely be lifting that trophy. Personally, was only discussing it earlier I think arsenal will drop points, I don't see city dropping many but I believe we'll come out on top. Game on! It's an exciting time.

3.) 19 Mar 2024 16:59:07
Absolutely Bill mate. We start hitting 4’s and 5’s every game like we were earlier this year and we are golden on the goal difference front. But for my heart health I would rather a draw in the City Arsenal game. Or for City to win, because that would still put it in our hands.

The boys literally have to take it one game at a time and approach the remaining league fixtures like cup finals.

4.) 19 Mar 2024 17:14:53
Agree it’s going to take 1 team to get maximum points.

5.) 19 Mar 2024 17:24:50
One of the most (if not the most) exciting title races in premier league history.

City and Arsenal have tough CL games and Coty are still in the fa cup also.

We can put our primary focus onto the league and I’d still fancy us in the Europa with how we’ve rotated so far.

City and Arsenal will need to go fulll strength for every CL game they have left to play.

6.) 19 Mar 2024 19:32:15
@Bill - Yes, I have a feeling we will do it. With 10 games remaining it is a great place to be in.

Come on @Salah, @Davey Mates - let's get some good vibes in.

@Alonso1786 - I am not sure what I want from that game. A part of me feels City are more dangerous in the long run so, City losing will give us that comfort cushion. But if Arsenal wins this game, it will become difficult to stop them. Either a draw or an Arsenal win is what I am leaning towards.

7.) 19 Mar 2024 20:08:38
This title race is only exciting by recent standards. In the 90's and 2000's it wasn't uncommon to have 3 teams challenging for the title at this stage of the season.

8.) 19 Mar 2024 20:49:22
I think City will draw two games and one of those will be Arsenal and the other Spurs
I think Arsenal will lose one and draw two of their remaining games.
I think Liverpool will finish the season with 8 more wins and a couple of draws
We pip Pep to the title on the last day by a pube!

9.) 19 Mar 2024 23:27:22
10 cup finals and we can win each one. Sunday was a bad day at the office and we won’t make that mistake again. Pick ourselves up, dust ourselves down and carry on.

10.) 20 Mar 2024 06:45:01
Finally some sense being spoken.

Thank you Bill.

11.) 20 Mar 2024 08:53:15
Shughes55, Arsenal's schedule in the final 10 games at least on paper is absolutely B-R-U-T-A-L! Rather them than us, me thinks.



18 Mar 2024 06:45:17
For a neutral that was a great game, a proper old fashioned Cup tie - gutted we lost, especially given we had so many chances

See a few posts about taking Salah off - in fairness, apart from his goal, he was poor. Nunez looked dead on his feet at times and our finishing was way off, and we had lots of chances

Hopefully they are all back fit and firing for our next game.


1.) 18 Mar 2024 10:23:42
Forest are dross. Go back to the Championship where you belong.

2.) 18 Mar 2024 14:40:57
Bill, Salah was not fit enuff to play 90. It was normal that he would come off. had we taken ou chances, this would not be an issue. We didn't and we got done. That said, we looked knackered and extra time was the last thing we needed cos our legs (hence, our minds) were gone. We needed the rest. the Quad? Klopp did not promise me any of that so Im good.



26 Jan 2024 10:48:16
Klopp to stand down at the end of the season - on the BBC.




17 Nov 2023 12:45:03
Wow - everton hit with a 10 point deduction. Amazing how quick this can happen for other clubs and yet the stuff with City just drags on year after year after year - better legal team perhaps?

Perhaps City's refusal to co-operate in any way with the investigation too? Strange this refusal too given all their proclamations of innocence etc.

In fairness Ed25, whilst 10 points is a huge deduction most seasons, this would be the season to take it - even with this deduction I think yous will be safe, the likes of Luton, Burnley and Sheff Utd not picking up many points this season - whilst it will be very difficult, it seems more doable this season than others.


{Ed025's Note - its a kick in the teeth Bill but as you say this season is probably the best time for it to happen, i tell you what though mate if we got 10 points for our one offence i cant wait to see City,s deduction for their 115 offences..

1.) 17 Nov 2023 13:34:38
1150 point deduction?

{Ed025's Note - should be SR..

2.) 17 Nov 2023 13:44:57
Wow that's intense.

City has 115 offenses? They'll all be 'minor infringements' and will get a fine, which they will only have to pay 5% of before it gets void by the CAS a year or two later.

{Ed025's Note - i have no problem with Everton getting punished hsf, as long as the other guilty clubs get sanctioned pro-rata mate..

3.) 17 Nov 2023 13:46:43
Would not be surprised if city got off Scot free maybe a fine. Is it corrupt? Just adding fuel to the fire .

4.) 17 Nov 2023 13:47:51
If it’s any comfort Ed, Luton and Sheffield United are far worse, so I think you’ll escape relegation. Unfortunately Ed, City will get away with it as they can afford very very expensive barristers and are quite prepared to drag it out through legal means to frustrate the process. They’ve punished you because it’s easy. Nothing will happen to City because it’s too hard and too complicated.

{Ed025's Note - yeah i think we still have a good chance of survival VV, but as you say i will be waiting to see how the other clubs in breach get punished mate..

5.) 17 Nov 2023 14:14:08
Ed25, don't sweat it, bro. You will stay up with the dross we have running the PL streets these days namely Burnley, Lutton, B'mouth and so on. Just keep doing what you are doing on the pitch.

If I was Everton and and Dyche, I would just accept the charge and focus more on handling stuff on the pitch where you have actual control esp. with the season this early. Just my take, man.

{Ed025's Note - it is what it is Oli and we just have to get on with it mate, the thing is that now the PL have set a precedent there are a couple of clubs who should be quaking in their boots right now..

6.) 17 Nov 2023 14:16:42
Aye Ed 25, whilst a kick in the teeth alright this looks like the one season whereby it might actually be doable.

Not sure what's happened City's charges, haven't read anymore on it since they lodged their appeal to get the FA QC barred as he is an Arsenal season ticket holder lol, it'll drag on for years I'm sure but it's just worrying that there seems to be no onus to proceed quickly from either party involved.

Even reading Chelsea are in bother over dealings from their former Russian owner - but no harm, what is a financial penalty or small points deduction going to do to the likes of City or even Chelsea?

City have won trophy after trophy due to this - a fine means nothing to them. Points deduction? Big deal, they don't win the league that year but what about every trophy they did win due to the financial doping?

The sheer amount of money brought in from trophy wins alone should negate any fines, but if a strict deterrent is to be set against clubs following the same way then a fine will not do that - but hey, who honestly knows what will unfold?

It is honestly amazing though that Everton's case has been decided so quickly though, one would have thought the 115 charges is by far the more serious and that more attention would have been given but all quiet there.

7.) 17 Nov 2023 15:05:58
Ed25 - it’s slightly different with City mate, Everton are nearly £20m over the £105m loss allowance with Mosheri admitting money was spent to improve a non existent midfield! City have probably denied everything and will continue with their time barring strategy


8.) 17 Nov 2023 15:21:18
I think a recent FOI request, referenced in Parliament, confirmed that the Government behind City's owners have made representations directly to the UK government in relation to the bringing of these charges against City - although not the nature of those representations. People can make their own mind up as to what the substance of this may be, particularly in the context of the UK government trying to forge trade deals in the region.

9.) 17 Nov 2023 15:21:25
Indeed, Ed25. It seems Everton have come out with a statement saying they are watching the City investigation very closely since as you said, the precedent has been set here so let's see whether the PL and the independent tribunal have the guts to come down on City, should they be found officially guilty.

And it's a good thing that Everton have gotten as much points as they have cos they knew this was coming and prolly played well on purpose to get the amount of points they are on now so when the punishment hit and they have not been hit that hard.

{Ed025's Note - it has hit hard though Oli, what seemed a step in the right direction recently where we were heading up the table has put us back to square one mate, we have a threadbare squad as it is and a couple of injuries or suspensions to key players could see us struggling again and the confidence could easily go out of the window, lets hope not but you never know in football..

10.) 17 Nov 2023 16:26:40
Absolutely agree Ed precedent has been set. Will be interesting to see how they follow through. Reckon you'll be fine this season too as most have said. Think Dyche has the team playing some decent stuff.

{Ed025's Note - we are doing ok DM but however you look at it it’s a bit of a blow mate. I’m with you that we will still be ok but I was hoping for a bit better than that this season if I’m honest..

11.) 17 Nov 2023 16:42:19
Everton should just accept the punishment and be grateful the league didn't hand it down to them last season like they should have.

{Ed025's Note - it seems a bit harsh to me Thunderbird considering we have been in constant contact with the premier league over the matter mate, especially when yourselves and the other 5 shithouses who tried to ruin the Premier league by trying to form a super league got a slap on the wrists..

12.) 17 Nov 2023 16:57:57
Ed025 you will be absolutely fine mate.

As threadbare as you might become Burnley, Luton and Sheffield United have already got a reservation in the championship next year. With Bournemouth on the waiting list.

If there was one season you would be sound it’s this one.

{Ed025's Note - we have been fortunate that it was this season Wassa, a bit harsh i think mate but it is what it is..

13.) 17 Nov 2023 17:08:55
I agree with all above, ed25 comments spot on. I think Everton will be grand this season as regards relegation even with deduction. Everton biggest problem may now be the teams that have been relegated suing them. I've read ( not sure if 100%true) that relegated teams are looking 300m compensation from Everton.

{Ed025's Note - i dont think they have a case Digger, if they have a problem they should take it up with the Premier league mate as they decided what and when the punishment should be, sour grapes from teams who were so crap they got relegated and deservedly so..

14.) 17 Nov 2023 17:56:48
two things here sadly, one is what needs to happen to City and Chelsea and two, what will happen to City and Chelsea.

15.) 17 Nov 2023 18:30:17
No chance of LFC ever being done for over spending?

man city will always get away with it because their brown envelope is bigger?

16.) 17 Nov 2023 18:35:00
Although ed25 u can see why they not happy as couple of points either way may have made a difference.
I can understand everton frustration as it seems worse offenders can get off, although I think with today's judgement there will be v severe repercussions for other teams.

{Ed025's Note - i really hope so digger mate..

17.) 17 Nov 2023 18:53:26
Harsh on Everton I think. but at the end of the day, hell, I wouldn't be surprised if the PL actually gave City more points.

All jokes aside, charges will be dropped against City.

18.) 17 Nov 2023 19:30:47
"especially when yourselves and the other 5 rubbishhouses who tried to ruin the Premier league by trying to form a super league got a slap on the wrists. "

Okay so, I don't know where this came from or what this is all about BUT it is what it is. I hope you stay up, Ed25.

{Ed025's Note - cheers Oli..

19.) 17 Nov 2023 20:38:55
Why was it harsh on everton they were guilty? What about the teams relegated?

20.) 18 Nov 2023 09:32:03
Ed025 sorry to see your team get the punishment, seems excessive but a presidence has been set.

My problem is that recently the 115 charges over city has made me a bit disillusioned with football. We expect that it'll be dragged out over years, so why should I get worked up over the games when there is a chance the book will be thrown at them and years of football is basically declared as no winner.

{Ed002's Note - No precident has been set.}



19 May 2023 10:19:48
Think another poster mentioned this a while ago, but just saw Saliba is close to entering the last year of his contract and hasn't agreed a new one yet

Is that right? Quality player, could he be tempted? Also, how bad is his injury? Does he play lcb or rcb?

Doubt Arsenal would let him go but he was having a great season until his injury - will he recover ok?


1.) 19 May 2023 10:54:12
I think Arsenal have an option to extend for a further year.

2.) 19 May 2023 11:03:12
For Arsenal i've only ever seen him play RCB. He is a very good player though. No idea what his injury is or how serious it is either.

Personally I think he'll stay at Arsenal. It would seem silly to leave after they've had such a good season to come to Liverpool when we're clearly in transition.

3.) 19 May 2023 11:14:45
I think Arsenal got a few in the same situation. I don’t think Saka has long left on his either.

4.) 19 May 2023 11:43:47
I think Saka did or is very close to, agreeing a bumper new deal at Arsenal. Excellent player, they have put together a very decent young team.

5.) 19 May 2023 11:46:21
His injury is something that's not so serious at all, but could simultaneously potentially be a career long problem.

He plays RCB. We expect him to sign a new deal. When he does leave, a more realistic destination would be Paris or Madrid - he isn't going to liverpool lol.

6.) 19 May 2023 11:56:06
They’ll end up at City.

7.) 19 May 2023 12:35:00
Quality defender. No coincidence Arsenal collapsed as soon as he got injured.

8.) 19 May 2023 13:00:30
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9.) 19 May 2023 10:54:47
Over to you Ed14 ….

I reckon Arsenal would have got a lot closer to winning the title if Saliba hadn’t got injured.

{Ed014's Note - absolutely mate, there would have been nothing City could have done no matter how much the media are creaming their collective pants over them now!

10.) 19 May 2023 14:17:11
Saka just got his bag if 300k a week on a new deal while Martinelli just got his 200k a week on a new deal as well, I read somewhere. Saliba? He’s not signed a new deal yet but I reckon he’ll sign a new one even tho Ed01 said he’s hesitating due to how Arteta incompetently messed him about sending him out on useless loans and was forced to put him back in the team.

For me, the kid is immense. Him and Gvardiol are the future at CB and imo, anyone that gets either of both these kids would have a top CB on their hand, no doubt. Are we interested? I don’t think so but we should keep tabs on him, IMO.

{Ed002's Note - Saliba is not joining Liverpool.}

11.) 19 May 2023 15:13:36
Thanks Sir Wenger, awk it was tongue in cheek lol, no way he'd join Liverpool but the kid is a cracker and I hope he fully recovers from his injury and quickly regains his form - it will be very interesting to see just how high his ceiling is

WDW2 is right tbh, how much closer would you be to that title if he didn't get injured?

Good luck and cheers for the response.

12.) 19 May 2023 15:15:31
Nice one, Ed02. I wasn't expecting him to. Just wishful thinking.




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23 Jan 2024 12:45:59
Keep him, let him retire with us - guy is scoring 20+ every single season from the right wing, why on earth would we even consider selling him?

Honestly, the shape he is in he could play for years yet, let him and let him retire an absolute legend with us - hopefully with an extra couple of league winners medals etc lol.




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20 Oct 2023 14:28:53
Lol ArAy, 'The Cunning Linguists' used to be a pub quiz name used by myself and friends back in the day (20 odd years ago lol, damn I'm old haha)




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26 Jul 2023 11:50:48
who is this troll? I never see leek on any of the other other.




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23 Jun 2023 15:02:02
Jurgenator, I still play Championship Manager lol at the rip old age of 43 haha - can always find a bit of time for it!




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20 Jun 2023 15:16:27
Awk I get what you're saying, 'deadwood' a poor term for those you mention - apart from the absolute disaster that was Keita

I think the major question is whether Trent will move to midfield or do we persist with the hybrid role

If he moves that would give us MacAllister at lcm, Trent at rcm and I would like a cdm signed as I think Fabinho has been past his best for a couple of seasons now tbh

If he stays at rb/ hybrid then we would need a rcm and a cdm

Back ups being: Elliott, Jones, Bacjetic - all of which I would like to see get minutes and then experience in Thiago, Fabinho and Henderson

This allows for more rotation with 9 midfielders to cover 3 spots. We still have Morton as well, who I assume will get a chance pre-season and then either loaned out or integrated into the squad

Also, if we sign a cdm we could see Fabinho sold perhaps and there are reports linking Thiago with a move as discussed today as well

I agree now would be the time to sell Matip and recoup some money. I would also sell Phillips too and would like another cb - reports are we are looking to sign a left sided cb

That leaves us with MacAllister currently bought and the need for either 1 or 2 midfielders (depending on where Trent plays) and a cb.





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04 Apr 2024 11:52:01
ArAy, I agree man - I mean, are we really to believe that officials are simply this incompetent?

The onfield Ref will miss things - honestly, given the speed of the game, players in the way etc, it happens. No issue with that, but how does the VAR official not see what every one of us see looking at the same replays?

I hear the, 'didn't want to give my mate a hard time' nonsense but surely giving a completely wrong call gives your mate a much harder call?

Are there just a few of them in a betting syndicate that we'll find out about in the near future lol?

Personally, I'd take VAR away from the referees. VAR itself is a useful tool, it is simply being misused. Have another agency/ set of dedicated VAR officials, but not existing or former refs - they see something, refer the ref to the screen - get rid of this 'clear and obvious' mantra as it simply does not work - the ref looks at the replays and makes the call. This way, it is ALWAYS the onfield refs call, the VAR officials simply alert him to 'all the angles' so to speak and this removes the whole overriding refs calls/ mates angles etc.

And this whole 5 min wait for a call is just nuts - should be like a minute max to look at a couple of replays.




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22 Mar 2024 13:03:12
Few major issues with VAR for me lads:
1 - it is run by Refs. I mean we all heard Mike Dean saying he didn't tell the ref about the Cucarella hair pull because his mate had already had a bad day and he didn't make it worse fs.

Also, the refs seemingly don't want to 'overrule' their mate on the field so just back up the decision made - which as wrong as often the ref on the field makes a call, thinking if he's wrong then his mate in VAR will bail him out.

Again, then VAR refers the ref to the screen, how many times has the ref honestly said 'no' and backed his own decision? Has happened what once this season I think?

Personally, I think because it's refs on VAR no one knows who has the final decision as above, they both just want to back up their mates - I think VAR should be manned by people outside of the refs. They see something and refer the ref to the screen to look at it. Final decision is the onfield refs and no-one elses.

2 - the decisions themselves made by VAR and when it decides to get involved

We see a decision given one week as like a penalty or red card - get the likes of Dermot Gallagher explaining how it is a correct decision and processed used, then the next week we see an identical incident and a different decision this time. Again, Dermot tells us, using a different interpretation of those same rules, how bizarrely that this too was alos a correct decision.

Again, we see VAR intervene one week for an incident then not get involved for an identical incident the following week. Dermot, Mike Dean etc tell us how both decisions were correct and we are left scratching our heads wondering what the difference was - was it the Clubs involved? The Stadium the match was in etc, who knows?

3. The length of time taken to make a decision - I mean this has to be split into 2 parts:
A - 5 mins plus to look at a possibly penalty/ red card etc type incident. I mean jeez, we see like every replay the VAR officials see and it doesn't take longer than 30 secs or so to see if it is a deliberate handball or a karate kick to the chest but hey, they take their 5 mins, fair enough, but how they then come to a different decision than the millions watching at home is just inexplicable.

B - then the offsides, a real annoyance for me. VAR is to intervene for those 'clear and obvious' incidents - if it takes 5 mins plus and the drawing of lines to measure millimetres of a possible offside then it's hardly bloody clear or obvious is it and VAR should not get involved

The solution? For me simple - one still, in line across the pitch when the ball is played. If he's on he's on, if he's off he's off - usually obvious, if it's too close to tell then you don't need lines, the advantage goes to the attacker. Simple fs and what, 30 seconds for the decision to be made?

VAR in itself is a useful tool and should lead to the correct decision to be made - the fact this isn't happening should show it is merely being used incorrectly and thus needs looked at.




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22 Mar 2024 12:32:13
Aye JK I agree, just need to focus on our own games - win every one and we win the league I think, to make life easier for us supporters they could smash a few teams as well and sort out any goal difference worries lol

That's the thing though Digger, we look at the games against Arsenal, Chelsea etc as potential banana skins for City but they can win those easy enough and then drop points to Wolves etc - hard to judge where a team drop points tbh this season or last, especially City, as they have a tendency to win those 'banana skin' type games but drop points then against teams we thought they'd smash

Definitely an interesting run in - more for neutrals than us lol, but I just really hope we can win all of our remaining matches - be great for Klopp to leave with another League title.




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22 Mar 2024 12:26:16
Cracking player Dracred, like you I'd just heard Utd fans hyping him up and thought 'here we go again, another one' type thing - but the lad looks truly special and had a very good game against us.




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07 Mar 2024 09:35:28
Oli I got to say man I love watching him - yes he could definitely score more and needs to be more clinical but jeez, he is pure chaos for defenders and to be fair to him he never stops pressing, working etc and even when he has missed a few, he doesn't let it affect him, he just keeps going - absolute nightmare for defenders to pick up lol.




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