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20 May 2022 19:56:11
Rumours persisting today regarding Cody Gakpo, but some now suggesting Liverpool might look to a double deal to include his team mate Ibrahim Sangaré as well.

Don't shoot the messenger; i just read too much clickbait.

{Ed0666's Note - Why would we want Gakpo he plays predominantly on the left and we have Diaz there?


1.) 20 May 2022 22:37:45
That would feel like Diouf and Diao part 2.


2.) 21 May 2022 06:13:44
Ed's in your opinions, who is more likely to sign for LFC, Sangare or Tchouameni?

{Ed002's Note - I have no way of measuring that.
Ibrahim Sangare (DM) Newcastle are keen on the player and the interest of both Leicester and Southampton remains. The player has said that he does not wish to return to France and wants a move to England. Has been watched by a number of other PL sides including Manchester United, Manchester City, Liverpool and Chelsea who sent an ex-player to take a look at him with two scouts. PSV have no intention of selling.
Aurelien Tchouameni (DM/CM) Liverpool, Juventus, Real Madrid and Chelsea have a declared an interest in the player and have held discussions with Monaco. However, after signing Zakaria and being close to signing another midfield player, Juventus can now be discounted as they look to other lower-price midfield options to cover departures, with Monaco's financial demands being seen as significant. Real Madrid opted for Camavinga last summer and have yet to realistically exploit him - and they will concentrate on other priorities but cannot be discounted as Casemiro might leave in the summer - but again, they are smarting at the asking price and have asked Monaco to consider a deposit to secure him for a transfer next summer at an increased price. Monaco say that does not suit them. The interest from Anceslotti to have both players in his midfield has to be balanced against other transfers, and there is a good chance he may not be coach next season. Real Madrid would almost certainly look to also including one or more players in any deal - and they may yet opt to push for another instead - but don't discount them. PSG need to make significant changes to their aging midfield and have spoken with his agent, although not yet Monaco. Again, I would not discount them but they have others in mind as well. Chelsea had a creative solution in mind that would suit both clubs and will likely push for a deal. I would not rule them out. Manchester City have a list of potential Fernandinho replacements, including Tchouameni - I would not rule them out either. Other clubs including Manchester United and Borussia Dortmund have looked at him and spoken with his agent, but have not declared an interest to Monaco or they have preferred midfield targets at this time. Monaco have told clubs that they are not looking to sell for less than €100M but realistically it will be less than that. Liverpool have met with his agent and have finally declared an interest to Monaco. For Liverpool it would be a pretty much like-for-like replacement for Fabinho in midfield - but they are not looking to move him on. Barcelona would be priced out of a deal unless players would be taken in exchange as they have other plans for their money this coming summer. It is difficult to imagine any side paying the asking price. Monaco have said they won't accept a player exchange but the player has made it clear wants to move to Real Madrid but that may not be possible for cash.}


3.) 21 May 2022 13:49:12
Anything on André Trindade da Costa Neto? He'll probably end up at RM or Barcelona but I'd try to get him in whilst we have quite a large South American contingent. He has a very similar style to Fab and would develop well under his tutelage.

{Ed002's Note - Andre Trindade (DM/CM) Recommended to Liverpool as Fabinho cover, but concerns that he may not yet be able to obtain a Work Permit. Barcelona would like to take him but will not have space in the squad for another EU player. Braga may offer an option.}


4.) 21 May 2022 15:33:01
Thanks Ed002.

{Ed002's Note - It should have read "non-EU player".}


5.) 21 May 2022 03:40:06
Not sure 666. But we have reached out for him last week itself. Now i know nothing about the player but it could only mean mane/ salah or both are not signing a new deal so we might be moving him on? But we know liverpool like to conclude there transfer work very early in the season. I think gapko is an assurance signing.
What from i have been told mane is talking to two other clubs.

{Ed0666's Note - I know MK Scouser mentions Gakpo has played more centrally this season but I still don’t see it happening mate unless Mane & Jota are leaving? Maybe I’m wrong mate and your sources are indeed spot on. The thought of Jota leaving got me kind of aroused …is that wrong? 😂


6.) 21 May 2022 08:10:30
Ed, i believe he's played a lot as a striker this season. Anyway like i said, i'm just sharing a rumour on a rumour site 😅.

{Ed0666's Note - and you’re on a rumours page mate so keep those rumours coming fella. I know people that are deep rooted in the inner workings of football that tell me stuff about transfers and a lot of it doesent come to fruition not because they are BS’ing me but because transfers can break down at any given second as they are so flimsy in nature


7.) 21 May 2022 18:08:04
If Taki and Div are leaving, we can afford to bring in another forward whatever happens with Mo and Mane, and if we get the right player, they can also help cover the loss for either of the big guns.
FSG are not going to buckle and pay Mo/ Mane what they want. Question is though, who is?

{Ed002's Note - So there are no youngsters coming through?}


8.) 21 May 2022 19:02:49
Ed with us finally approaching Monaco to declare our interest in Tchouameni, would we be looking at playing him as well as Fabinho then because as you say we are not looking to move Fabs on, they look to play pretty much in the same position?

{Ed002's Note - I don’t know actually. A change of formation is possible else midfield starts to close up.}


9.) 21 May 2022 23:36:10
@ed0666 our forwards usually interchange regularly throughout a game. is there any proof Gakpo can also play wide right?

{Ed0666's Note - not sure but I have sufficient proof that Jota can’t


10.) 22 May 2022 15:34:17
Tchouameni strikes me as being pretty versatile. I can see him getting minutes on the right side of the midfield while Fabinho is in the lineup at the same time, while also starting in the 6 spot at other times while Fabinho is getting a rest.


 

 

29 Apr 2022 11:13:46
Ed002, any truth in the links to Enes Unal (Getafe striker) as far as you are aware? I tried the search function but it just pulls up hundreds of posts about "tribUNAL" fees. Lots of links to him today as an Origi replacement.

{Ed002's Note - Enes Unal (S) one time Manchester City striker has failed to live up to intial expectation and apart from a good spell at Twente and a decent season in Getafe this year his return in tems of goals has been poor. Would certainly not be a starter for Liverpool and it would be a surprise and indicate that none of the youngsters are good enough to replace the few games Origi plays each season.}


1.) 29 Apr 2022 15:43:23
Cheers mate. Did strike me as a strange rumour. I would've thought K. Gordon, Musialowski or Woltman might get a chance in pre-season before money is spent on an Origi replacement.


 

 

14 Mar 2022 12:16:03
Ed002, i went back and looked at your overview from January. Quite a few listed as possible if Salah left such as Dembele, Doku, Asensio, Bowen, Diaby and Sarr. I'm not sure any of them would be well recieved universally as a Salah replacement but i do think Bowen would be the best from the players you listed. I actually like Bowen. 23 goal contributions this season is behind only Diaz and Salah in our squad.

My question for you is who in Europe do you think would actually be interested in Salah and what sort of transfer fee do you think he'd go for if he won't sign a new deal and is sold? I saw you rule out PSG and Man City so I'd assume Real Madrid or Juventus are most likely destinations? I think he'd still be worth around €90m but you are far more knowledgeable on this stuff.

Not after a factual answer as you can't predict the future, just your subjective opinion.

{Ed002's Note - Mo Salah (RW) I suspect the contract situation is made complicated because of his prior expectation to be the post-Ronaldo poster boy at Real Madrid - and he might of been if the financial expectations were more reasonable. Approaching 30 he might now be thinking that opportunity has gone for good and his "agent" might will be pressing for a huge deal in terms of money and length of contract that would not suit Liverpool - hence there being no agreement so far. I would not completely discount Barcelona as an option but it would require at least one player in exchange and he knows that Real Madrid have a much preferred target in Mbappe, but unless that can be resolved for this summer, they could listen to his agent and perhaps make an offer. Juventus seem unlikely and PSG have other targets in mind. Inter need to replace Sanches and Perisic and are better placed than most in respect of wages. No clubs would want to spend too much on a transfer fee.}


1.) 14 Mar 2022 13:12:21
Thanks mate. Appreciate the detailed response 👍🏻.


2.) 14 Mar 2022 19:42:35
If we don’t get a massive fee for Salah may as well keep him.


3.) 14 Mar 2022 19:32:01
I feel we're privileged to get some of this inside scoop from Ed002, and honestly, the knowledge from the Ed that Salah has been on sale for 2 or 3 years now has really helped me to "move on" mentally from this current situation and just take everything I can get from Salah until such a time when he's no longer a Liverpool player.

Thanks for all the updates over the years, 002. I just wished Salah and his crew would show some decency and respect to the club and fans no matter how much they think they deserve this pay day!

YNWA.

{Ed002's Note - The problem might be around missed opportunities for the player. For the club, the paradigm is replacement and moving forward against significant cost and a player getting older.}


4.) 14 Mar 2022 20:00:30
Ed002 could you see Inter paying more in wages than we would offer. Was they not in trouble last summer so bad that they had to sell players and Conte left because of it.
Surly Mo would not leave us for Inter that’s a massive step back to be fair Liverpool City and Chelsea are miles ahead of the rest only Bayern come close even Real it’s only the name at the minute.
If he leaves to them some of the teams mentioned then it’s only money and I thought more of Salah it’s not as if his going to be on National minimal wage.

{Ed002's Note - The tax laws are very different in Italy and they are well placed to deal with wage issues.}


5.) 15 Mar 2022 01:04:35
ed2 - how come you put agent in inverted commas - "agent" -?


6.) 15 Mar 2022 10:08:01
No way in hell are we getting a massive fee for Salah. Economic climate, his age, length of remaining contract all count against it. £50-60m max. Not sure how you replace a 20+ goal a season player from that.

Certainly none of Dembele, Doku, Asensio, Bowen, Diaby or Sarr are suitable like for like replacements for multiple reasons to numerous to go through (particularly Dembele, Asensio and Doku) .


7.) 15 Mar 2022 12:27:01
No like for like replacement because Salah is an elite player. We need to sign the right player to replace if he leaves. The only choice is signing a player level below Salah and develop him to elite level. If you expect a like for like replacement it will end in tears. there's maybe 5 players at his level in the world.


8.) 15 Mar 2022 14:42:30
Age is relative with certain players. Salah doesn't touch alcohol and has an incredible discipline with his approach to diet and training. Talk of fees in the range of 120-150M GBP are off the mark, but I feel like we could possibly get 70-80M for him despite his age.


 

 

17 Jan 2022 15:10:54
Renato Sanches deal seems to be happening according to reports in Portugal and Spain. You know if they're wide of the mark Ed002? I know you said he was of interest last summer.

{Ed002's Note - I gave you an update a few weeks ago and explained:
Renato Sanches (CM) Lille are happy to let the player move on due to the constant muscle injuries he suffers; they wanted €20M cash or €30M with payments spread out although that could increase if Jorge Mendes can find multiple bidders or if there is no sale in January. Klopp has praised him in the past and he would be a more affordable replacement for Wijnaldum, but interest is not yet firm again but Liverpool could look to reducing the fee or even perhaps offering Origi in exchange - but Lille need cash. Barcelona had a sustained interest but they may have moved on. I had thought prior interest of Wolves would likely have left with NES but they could take a chance on him joining on a loan to buy deal after his recent injury - they may even be in a position to look for a cheaper straight cash deal in January. Arsenal would need to make space due to their imbalance between DM and CM. Milan may provide an option but would rather save money and utilise loanees Tommaso Pobega and Yacine Adli to cover for the departing Kessie. The concern would be injury issues and, although talented, he is inconsistent. Maybe something can be done.}


1.) 17 Jan 2022 15:36:08
Talented but inconsistent and with constant muscle injuries, wonder where we've heard that before? 🤔🤔.


2.) 17 Jan 2022 16:20:11
So we’ve got a lot of midfielders who like a fair bit of time off because of injury, so what is the logical thing to do? Bring in literally the most injury prone midfielder in European football?! I’m calling BS on this, It’s his agent drumming up interest. It would be batsh*t crazy to sign a player with as many chronic injury issues as Sanches, notwithstanding the fact he’s really not that good either.


3.) 17 Jan 2022 16:54:48
My issue is more than I think a forward player is the priority and I can't see us buying 2 players in Jan.

Although we've had injuries in Midfield, we'll have a lot of options in the next few weeks.


4.) 17 Jan 2022 17:52:52
We've two games to play till Sadio and Mo are back, and even if both get to the final on the 6th we should be able to beat Cardiff without them. Even in midfield, without sales who are we going to get in who would be a huge improvement on fab, hendo nd thiago! elliott also is on the way back.


5.) 17 Jan 2022 18:06:01
Presumably Sanches would long to mediumm term replace Keita or Ox if he arrived, both of whom have had injury problems (and the former an effort problem) . Not really sure of the point in replacing one injury prone player with another.

Honestly I'd rather take a punt on Jason Knight for half the money. He at least has a good fitness record, excluding that one time his own manager joined training and deleted his ankle.


6.) 17 Jan 2022 18:15:36
Vvvv I was planning on watching a Pilger documentary later, but I’m guessing you can tell me otherwise. We all know Sanches makes little sense given his injury record etc. But he has undeniable talent.


7.) 17 Jan 2022 18:43:33
Since the Ox just got crocked yet again we must be signing Sanches to compete with him for time out injured.


8.) 17 Jan 2022 19:12:03
The cheapest option amongst all.


9.) 17 Jan 2022 19:58:19
I'd rather go for sarr from Watford. Build for the future now.


10.) 17 Jan 2022 20:43:14
Have you any injuries son?
Eh yeah I do!
Lovely just sign here welcome to LFC!


11.) 17 Jan 2022 23:48:17
What sort of response do you expect from the “fans” son?
The usual one.
Lovely, spot on son, YNWA.


12.) 18 Jan 2022 09:45:51
talented, inconsistent, injury issues.

sounds like a Liverpool midfielder to me

on a serious note I've watched 2 or 3 Lille games and there are flashes of the skill and playing style that would suit our midfield. No call on whether he would be or not, but just saying that he has qualities that are understandable as to why Klopp likes him.


13.) 18 Jan 2022 09:48:21
Sanches is not a very good choice in my opinion due to his injury record. However i do believe a midfielder is the right investment over signing a forward. We currently have Mane, Salah, Firmino, Jota, Minamino, Origi and now Gordon for 3 positions. None of them are particularly injury prone.

In midfield we have Henderson, Keita, Ox Thiago and even Milner now who struggle for fitness. We also have Elliott just returning from injury so can't rush him. In fact, Jones and Fabinho are the only reliable players. They have both had a freak injury in the last 2 season but neither were out for much more than 5 weeks.

But that's why i don't think Sanches is right. We need a reliable midfielder who can play regularly. Rice or Bellingham are who we should be targeting but almost certainly are beyond our financial capacity. Hence (in my opinion) bargain basement targets like Ousmane Dembele, Adama Traore and Renato Sanches.


14.) 18 Jan 2022 11:37:06
Sanches is nowhere near an undeniable talent (that wonderful pass into the advertising hoarding always lives long in my memory), he’s bottled it in the top leagues and found his level in a farmers league. Thankfully it’s just nonsense as no one at the club would be that stupid to waste money on such an injury prone footballer.


 

 

17 Nov 2021 09:54:20
There are reports coming out of Spain that Barcelona want Sterling, however the player wants a return to Liverpool.

Can any of the Ed's please pour some cold water on this? Or liquid Nitrogen if you have any to hand!

{Ed002's Note - Raheem Sterling (LW/RW) At the right price his sale will help the start of a rebuild. He will be available for perhaps £60-70M. Could be one of the players offered to Spurs for Kane or Barcelona if any part exchange is possible, although Barcelona want to keep hold of their most desired players and have other options . Arsenal may offer an option as a Pepe replacement. Else he will have to settle for a new contract. I am not aware of any interest from Liverpool who are not short of LW options. I am not aware of what the player wants.}


1.) 17 Nov 2021 10:17:19
There is no way we are giving City £70m so they can rebuild and we can have him sat on our bench.


2.) 17 Nov 2021 10:22:38
Thank Fowler for that then!


3.) 17 Nov 2021 11:49:54
surely City don't need to sell Sterling to start a rebuild?

{Ed002's Note - Clubs cannot simply keep adding players and must stay within the FFP rules.}


4.) 17 Nov 2021 18:32:06
As thick as Raheem Sterling is (and he ranks somewhere between pigsh*t thick and as being as thick as mince), even he must be self aware enough to know how detested he by us? I can’t imagine that it’s true for one minute that he wants to rejoin. And if there is any shred of truth in it, I’d hope the owners remember him mocking Hillsborough and Sean Cox.


5.) 18 Nov 2021 10:34:03
ya hear that everyone? the guru has spoken. City, like liverpool, need to sell to buy.


6.) 18 Nov 2021 14:02:37
Does Pepe want out of Arsenal Ed002?

{Ed002's Note - Pepe's agent is offering him around.}


7.) 19 Nov 2021 09:36:56
Apparently Arsenal are prepared to take around a £50m hit on Pepe, Barry. That is actually worth a punt (whereas he’s not a £70m player, he’s decent value at £20-25m), he did manage to get 10 goals in a relatively poor Arsenal side last season. I think there is a bargain to be had there.

{Ed002's Note - He will not be moving to Liverpool.}


8.) 22 Nov 2021 13:57:12
Ed02, how is replacing Sterling with Kane a rebuild?
Sterling 26, and Kane 28?

{Ed002's Note - Who is suggesting that?}


 

 

 

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25 May 2022 14:57:38
Just seen this quote from Mo Salah:

"I don't want to be selfish. I just want to see Hendo with the trophy in his hands and hopefully he will then give it to me!

"I am staying next season for sure. "

Long live the Egyptian King 👑.


1.) 25 May 2022 15:01:59
Honestly I wouldn't be overly enamoured if he left on a free next season.


2.) 25 May 2022 15:03:31
What does that mean he's staying for next season? I hope the club are smart enough instead of letting him run down he's contract.


3.) 25 May 2022 15:08:08
Take it that means he leaving on a free.


4.) 25 May 2022 15:22:27
Means now's not the time to be sorting contracts. win big ears celebrate like hell and den sign over the summer! great news, more years of the Egyptian king and no need to be worrying about buying a reacement either.


5.) 25 May 2022 15:24:23
As is his perogative to see out his deal.


6.) 25 May 2022 15:45:41
Sell if he’s not signing, it’s to much to lose otherwise.


7.) 25 May 2022 16:19:04
How is it "too much to lose"? He cost peanuts, will have given us 6 superb years full of goals and not been an ounce of trouble.


8.) 25 May 2022 16:30:16
If the bloke wants to stay next season its out of the clubs hands, its his choice. whether he intends to sign a new contract or not! I think he's signing though.


9.) 25 May 2022 15:13:27
Jeez. It's an C.V..


10.) 25 May 2022 17:07:22
What do people think of Sadio saying he'll wait until after the Champions League to announce his intentions?


11.) 25 May 2022 17:09:16
If he doesn’t sign, he will be replaced and might find that the packages offered from elsewhere next year not as good as he was expecting if he is no longer pulling up trees for us as a squad player.

If he goes this year he won’t get as much signing fee.

It’s a strange one - he’s obviously looking for a move, but it seems motivated by money and nobody’s really falling over themselves to offer him want he thinks he deserves.

And yet he has a contract on the table from one of the top clubs on the planet, to be their highest paid player, in a team that plays to his strengths and where he is, generally, appreciated by the fans. Top manager, trophies on tap etc etc.

I just really hope this doesn’t end badly, there is just no need for it.
I understand it’s money and business, I just hope Mo does too. It’s a cut-throat world out there and Mo strikes as more than a little naive.


12.) 25 May 2022 17:21:04
Sounds as tho he'll leave on a free. We won't be able to compete w the signing on fee plus salary.


13.) 25 May 2022 17:32:30
Signing or not. there's no way Salah becomes a squad player!2nd name on the teamsheet after Virgil.


14.) 25 May 2022 17:33:21
Jadon mate I just think the club haven't offered him new contract. Coz the plan was to replace him with Diaz in the summer.


15.) 25 May 2022 17:24:24
Messi leaves PSG next year when his contract expires. Salah is his replacement with a massive signing-on fee. I'm calling it now.


16.) 25 May 2022 17:48:36
KopF I think Klopp indicated today that negotiations are ongoing w all players that are getting short. I'd imagine that includes Sadio. Maybe he's trying to keep the owners on their toes maybe he's decided he's off. We'll find out soon enough hopefully.


17.) 25 May 2022 17:52:29
Babbitt Rabbity did u see what Nasser Al-Khelaifi said after resigning mbappe? They're just interested signing younger players not older ones.

They're even Open to sale Neymar after mbappe's contract to balance the books.


18.) 25 May 2022 18:07:24
To be fair salah and mane have both been loyal servants and given us their best. Mane isn't what he was on the wing. If he chooses to go after champions league then fair enough, sell him. If salah walks away on a free after next season, not ideal but atleast we'll of had another season with him. still hopeful he signs though but if not I for 1 don't begrudge him the chance of a big final payday. Legend.


19.) 25 May 2022 18:08:49
So what if he leaves for free? Why can't people just be happy that one of the top 10 players in world football right now has just said he will play for us next season? 😂

Baffled by the negative reactions to this. Sounds like many just wanted to trade him in for a shiny New (nez) toy! Maybe in another 12 months time Gordon or Elliott will replace him? Or maybe he'll stay for another 3 years beyond then? Who knows. Let's just enjoy him whilst he's ours!


20.) 25 May 2022 18:07:24
To be fair salah and mane have both been loyal servants and given us their best. Mane isn't what he was on the wing. If he chooses to go after champions league then fair enough, sell him. If salah walks away on a free after next season, not ideal but atleast we'll of had another season with him. still hopeful he signs though but if not I for 1 don't begrudge him the chance of a big final payday. Legend.

{Ed0666's Note - I think this is a happy solution all round. This way we get Salah for another year and dont have to break the bank to do so. If his blip in form is permanent then we aren’t saddled with an inferior player and if it’s not a blip then it’s the same as it was previously well still have to break the bank to sign him.


21.) 25 May 2022 18:51:24
His form is pure sh#te at the moment.


22.) 25 May 2022 19:00:23
Sell salah and buy nunez. Money doesn't grow on trees and we aren't a city or Madrid. We need to sell to buy. Sell salah and buy nunez. Think to the future.


23.) 25 May 2022 19:14:07
Barely a word said for months and then just after Mbappe stays at PSG. Hmm.
All I want is for him to score the winner on Saturday and then I don't care what he does, can't begrudge him anything.


24.) 25 May 2022 18:08:49
So what if he leaves for free? Why can't people just be happy that one of the top 10 players in world football right now has just said he will play for us next season? 😂

Baffled by the negative reactions to this. Sounds like many just wanted to trade him in for a shiny New (nez) toy! Maybe in another 12 months time Gordon or Elliott will replace him? Or maybe he'll stay for another 3 years beyond then? Who knows. Let's just enjoy him whilst he's ours!


25.) 25 May 2022 19:28:43
Stick salah centrally and I think he'll score more goals, then again I think any of our forwards would. For Madrid. I'd put Salah up top, Diaz on salads side, and mane to be mane.


26.) 25 May 2022 19:33:48
3 goals and 4 assists in his last 10 appearances. 7 goal involvements in 10 from a winger? Not bad at all considering those games included Man City semi final, Man United derby, Everton derby, an in form Tottenham, a revived Newcastle, defensively solid Wolves, both legs of a CL semi final against a very solid Villareal, and Chelsea in an FA Cup final in which he only played 30 minutes due to injury.

What do you expect from the bloke at the back end of a gruelling season when we've had massive game after massive game? Just because his form in the 1st half of the season was prime Ronaldo/ Messi level, doesn't mean his current form is "pure sh##te". Most wingers would dream of that kind of return across those 10 particular fixtures. You know across his last 10 games Diaz has 3 goals and 3 assists. So 1 less assist than Mo and yet most people on here will say he's been scintillating.

I'm sorry, I'm not buying it. I was fuming with Salah and his agent earlier in the season and was happy to bomb him out for that reason alone. But Salah has finally said the right thing and that should be applauded in the interest of fairness. He is clearly a victim of his own success.


27.) 25 May 2022 19:49:35
Why do fans worry about money? I’d say about 95% of us - including me - have no idea about how the finances work.

We see numbers on social media / in the press which range, at best, from semi-informed guesses to the product of uninformed imagination based on computer games and then start making value judgements on the clubs management of (transfer) funds and revenue management in general.

As has been said, if the club is happy to accept what Salah wants to do for the next twelve months onwards then fair enough. If it means we get one more season (at least) of a happy Mo then cool. As fans that’s a good outcome.


28.) 25 May 2022 20:11:09
Liverpool want to pay Salah X, Salah wants to be paid Y. And they're both engaging in brinksmanship in the belief the other will blink first.

Salah doesn't think the owners will ultimately be willing to take the backlash of letting him go for nothing, and the club don't think he'll have an easy time getting £400k a week at another club so why should we pay it to him? With Haaland at Man City and Mbappe staying at PSG on a million billion a week, or whatever, I think those two options are out. Newcastle might chuck it at him, but will they be up to CL level yet? Man U too could probably afford it after Ronnie's deal runs out. Again, may not be in the CL. And I doubt he'd go to a team outside the CL.

There's always Barcelona and Real, but I give up trying to predict what they do.

Personally, I suspect they will eventually meet somewhere in the middle. Probably quite late in the day.


29.) 25 May 2022 20:58:26
Mo says he’s staying and the fans are upset.

The guy cannot win.

He is well within his right to play out his contract like any employee. We offered him that deal. He signed it. And he’s honouring it. If what we’re offering isn’t to his liking then he is free to leave and sign elsewhere next summer.

Last few weeks it feels like Fans have seemingly turned on our player of the season ahead of the biggest game of the year.

Let’s all get behind the team please.


30.) 25 May 2022 20:25:44
Well said MK, the bloke is just measured by his own insane standards! And Ed, "if his blip in form is permanent? "blokes been superb basically since he left Chelsea 7 r 8 years ago, plays around 6 million minutes at the AFCON to have his heart broken nd come back exhausted only to ave it repeated in the World Cup play off and he's not allowed a bad spell? .

{Ed0666's Note - listen I’m salah’s biggest fan but it isn’t beyond the realms of possibility he’s declining?? I for one second don’t think he is but it is possible? We have to look at all the realities. I am a proponent of playing devils advocate and If you didn’t know now you know.


 

 

25 May 2022 13:19:07
What are peoples feelings regarding Keita's contract situation? He only has 1 year left and in spite of large sections of the fan base wanting him sold, Klopp clearly trusts him. He's started some big games this season including both cup finals. Realistically he'll probably start the Champions League final too, as much as many of us (myself included) would go with a different option.

It's a surprising conundrum because a year ago he was written off entirely and barely ever fit, but one thing you can credit him for this season is his fitness. Whenever somebody else has broken down (be it Thiago, Fabinho, Elliott, Jones etc) Keita has been there to step in. I personally think he'll be handed a new deal and as much as i trust Klopp it doesn't half make me nervous!


1.) 25 May 2022 13:35:02
If the only thing you can credit a 60m signing with is one season where he's not permanently in the physio room then that says it all really. There's a talented player in there somewhere - just not in Liverpool.


2.) 25 May 2022 13:41:11
I think he's good enough to be part of our squad and, as we've seen this season and particularly during the run-in, he can make a contribution in a team that wins matches, wins cups, makes finals and almost wins the league.

However, I don't think he's ever delivered what we'd expect from a £50m+ signing and, if there is one position in the team that I think we can clearly improve, it's the third/ most advanced midfield role alongside two of Fabinho/ Henderson/ Thiago. I hope Elliott comes back strongly and makes that position his own next season.

So I guess I'm a bit indifferent. I'd be quite happy for him to stay, but I don't think he's done enough to warrant a big new contract on vastly improved terms. And I also wouldn't have any problem if we got a half-decent offer for him and sold him.


3.) 25 May 2022 13:48:26
Mk I think you hit the nail on the head. If Fans were picking the team he wouldn’t play. If Fans were choosing who gets a new contract then he wouldn’t but It’ll all be down to whether Klopp wants to keep him longer term and whether he wants rid this summer or to Protect a future fee on him.


4.) 25 May 2022 13:50:31
I keep hoping he'll improve and I keep seeing signs that make me hopeful. But then I see him in the big games and he looks like a lost sheep. Jogging about in circles, not pressing properly, not covering back properly just jogging.


5.) 25 May 2022 13:55:22
Naby has been a massive disappointment since he arrived. Although he did come with a reputation for having a attitude. The big problem are his wages and also he can't play in certain countries due to his police record (And I don't mean"Walking on the Moon"😂) Anyway hopefully someone will come in for him otherwise the club will have to take a hit and let him go for free next season.


6.) 25 May 2022 14:01:05
First of all I certainly wouldn't be letting him run down his contract. So if Klopp wants him to stay then sign or be sold in my opinion. Personally I don't think he all that, he clearly isn't but I do think at this moment in time he gives more than Jones and Elliott and Klopp clearly feels the same. I was hoping for Jones to progress this season but injury has held him back but also he does flatter to deceive when he gets a chance. Elliot also, again injured for a large chunk of the season and still quite young, needs time.
It might be a case of getting Keita to sign because money for a really good upgrade isn't there? Keita has done better no doubt but he's no world beater.


7.) 25 May 2022 14:01:42
You need to forget about what he cost. It’s not you spending the money so why does that even come in to it?
Has he done enough to warrant a place in the squad? I think if you look at his contribution this season I’d say he has.
He’s not the swashbuckling midfielder we were led to believe we were getting but I think he’s struggled to come to terms with the relentless press Klopp employs and that has detracted from his attacking play. Plus I think he is constantly judged on his price tag and slated by a large portion of Liverpool fans which will only make the guy more nervous as he gets anxious to justify his inclusion.
I say Klopp knows him and his talents much better than any fan does so just lay off the guy and let Klopp make the decision.


8.) 25 May 2022 14:10:56
I say keep naby I’m sure even he knows he’s not good enough to be first team but definitely good enough to be a squad player. injuries have impacted him a lot at his time in Liverpool but I think it’s right to keep the lad.


9.) 25 May 2022 14:24:11
I think his attitude has changed considerably, and he seems to be a lot happier and more involved with his team mates. We need a midfielder to chip in with some goals though and he can't shoot to save his life.


10.) 25 May 2022 14:55:24
Hes had a better season for sure and more readily available but he's still a massive flop for me. Get rid. He gets a new contract then we'll employ any old rubbish.


11.) 25 May 2022 15:01:52
See ya later, Naby Keita.


12.) 25 May 2022 15:02:19
For what it’s worth any player stating that we haven’t seen the best of him in 4 yrs is not worth a contract imo
He’s performed well this yr but is it for a deal or to attract attention to get a transfer?
Just my opinion but I’d get rid.


13.) 25 May 2022 15:27:42
To be honest I think money has a lot to do with it when we are valuing a players contribution. I mean the guy cost 3 times what Henderson cost, considerably more than Fabinho and Milner we got on a free.
I think its OK to consider him transfer fee when we look at his input to the team.


14.) 25 May 2022 16:28:40
Move him on. His employment with the club has not been a success by any measure you use. And certainly not met anybody's expectations, including his own. Get the maximum you can for him and clear the way for players like Carvalho, Elliott, Jones, Musialowski etc.


15.) 25 May 2022 14:33:46
He's playing much coz we lack options in midfield. Once we buy a top midfielder I doubt he's going play as much as he's playing now. There's a reason our midfield is our weakest spot.


16.) 25 May 2022 16:32:55
Ox will go, Naby will stay.


17.) 25 May 2022 17:05:02
If got decent fee for him I'd sell and get jones and elliot more game time. Hopefully we buy top class physical, box to box type midfielder and integrate morton more into squad. Ox will go I'm sure. Hopefully milner stays as much for off the field as on it but he mite want to leave for more game time.


18.) 25 May 2022 17:26:56
Am not a big fan of keita and this season hasn’t changed that.
If we have our strongest team to pick from then I doubt Klopp would pick him. Yes he’s started in cup finals but only because of injuries to other players.
From what I seen in the FA cup final Trent was leaving big holes when up field which hendo normally covers. And because hendo was moved to the middle and keita on the right he didn’t cover that area.
He is a weak link! And doesn’t spot the danger.
Obviously this is just am opinion and I mite be wrong.


19.) 25 May 2022 18:09:33
Enjoyed reading these replies lads. Some great arguments.


20.) 25 May 2022 18:41:41
He’s absolutely pony I’d volley him
Out of the club! Worst signing ever! Half arsed muppet!
Stop all that bull theirs a player inside him!
4 seasons amy other player be long gone 60m
DUD!


21.) 25 May 2022 18:42:36
Jadon he might stay and run his last year out. basically have no choice anyway. no 1 in their right mind is going to want him. 60m down the drain mate. Who got relegated the season we signed him? . I bet we could of got a midfielder from any of those teams and they could of out performed naby keita. Best thing he's ever done is getting subbed in first half haha. he plays against real Madrid again and it'll be same result.


22.) 25 May 2022 18:09:33
Enjoyed reading these replies lads. Some great arguments.


23.) 25 May 2022 19:36:43
He's been a bit better in the second half of this season and he's put in three or four genuinely very good performances (City in the FA Cup, Man U away, one of the Benfica games) . But on the whole, I personally do not think he's done enough.

A lot of his apparently good performances since the AFCON fell under the category "bare minimum we'd expect from another player" in my opinion, and honestly in the last month he's reverted to going completely AWOL after 15 minutes. It was telling that after the FA Cup Final, when Klopp needed a senior midfielder to help Elliot and Jones, he picked the 36 year old Milner instead of the 27 year old Keita. With ET accounted for they'd played nearly the same number of minutes. But the much older player got the nod, cos his level is more dependable.

And Keita's handful of proper performances have just underlined what he could do if he just applied himself consistently. It frustrates the life out of me cos he has so much ability that he doesn't use most of the time. And you can bet there'll be interviews 10-15 years up the line where he says he regrets not trying harder and admits not appreciating what he could've been.

He could well start the Champions League final and complete his hat-trick if Thiago's not 100%. But it's honestly impossible to predict what he'll do. He could put in another monster performance, or he could disappear after 15 minutes and be subbed at 60-70 minutes. Whilst Henderson, who's played more minutes than any other midfielder this season and I'm told in Match Chat needs his play time managed carefully from now on, and a just back from injury Fabinho or a 36 year old Milner might end up playing the full 90 + extra time if needed. That's what happened in the FA Cup.


24.) 25 May 2022 19:38:35
Worst signing ever?
Developed amnesia over Diouf then?
Has he cost us a CL final like Karius did?
He fits the role if you need someone to hate on though.


25.) 25 May 2022 20:15:53
Don't forget Balotelli, Flash.

Although I know we try to.


26.) 25 May 2022 21:17:03
“Worst signing ever. ”

Give me a break.

What a way to dig out our player ahead of a champions league final which he will almost definitely play in.


27.) 25 May 2022 23:36:09
Get rid. Fact is if we’d invested that £60m on the ‘right’ midfielder we may be celebrating our second premier league trophy under Klopp right now. His position is that important and he was a mistake. Don’t make it again!


28.) 26 May 2022 00:27:33
I'm clearly not a big Keita fan, but suggesting he cost us the league is an 'interesting' take, to put it mildly.


 

 

23 May 2022 09:47:14
Thiago out for the CL final is a hammer blow so i'm glad Fabinho is fit to return (as per Klopp) .

One thing i noted watching Madrid against City, is Modric and Kroos are losing their legs. Ancelotti actually hooked them both and put Valverde and Camavinga in midfield because they couldn't cope with De Bruyne, Foden or Bernardo's energy.

With that in mind I'd (controversially) play Elliott or Jones alongside Fabinho and Henderson. I mean i know it will be Keita in reality, but i think either of the 2 young lads would just be too much for their aging midfield to handle. Alternatively we could play Firmino in an advanced midfield role to basically just stifle Modric (he's fully capable of marking him out of the game) .

I'm sure Klopp has one more master stroke up his sleeve this season though and we're basically full strength minus Thiago and Origi.

Time to believe again lads, she's is coming home to Anfield again!


1.) 23 May 2022 10:00:04
that's interesting cos I've never noticed either of Elliot or Jones to be the kinds of players that scream energy and running.


2.) 23 May 2022 10:18:14
I remember the last time Keita played against Madrid.
Also remember everyone saying their midfield was too old last time as well. Going to be a tough game this one.


3.) 23 May 2022 10:27:33
Faith, i'm really quite surprised by your comment mate. They have bundles of energy!

Jones presses with a similar intensity that Lallana used to at his peak. Sometimes i wonder what he's doing sprinting to close down the goalkeeper with 85 minutes on the clock! He plays with his heart on his sleeve every time, even if he does take too many touches at times.

Elliott for sure doesn't press with the same kind of aggression but he buzzes about a lot and pops up all over the midfield or out wide trying to get on the ball. Once he gets his confidence back he'll be kicking the door down again to start in my opinion.

Different players, but both have the energy to cause an aging Madrid team problems in my opinion. If Thiago was fit i wouldn't even think twice but as he isn't, I think we need to pick a midfield that can outrun them as we won't outplay them in my opinion.


4.) 23 May 2022 10:45:44
Just saying I've not noticed it. Maybe I've missed it but when I think bundles of energy, pressing etc I definitely don't think of those two.


5.) 23 May 2022 10:46:14
Very tough Mikey1985. Benzema is world class but i think people are underestimating Vinicius. He has the most goal contributions of any u21 player in Europes top 5 leagues. He'll be a real handful.

And even when Modric and Kroos were struggling against City, Camavinga came on and bossed it.

I think we'll win but i think it'll be very tight. Maybe even another penalty shoot out 😬.


6.) 23 May 2022 11:24:58
As they say football is a funny old game.

We are worrying about legs in midfield against 2 players that have the combined age of 68 (36 and 32).

Despite our concerns about Modric and Kroos legs we were also happy to get rid of Salah and Mane as they are approaching their twilight years of 30.


7.) 23 May 2022 11:50:58
Vini Jr is the one to watch yeah your absolutely right, everyone attacks down our right side as it is and this will be no different.
Not sure I would be playing Jones or Elliot though mate. definitely not starting anyway. Jones for me still looks a little lost at times, a bit unsure on what to do, playing him in a champs league final against probably the most experienced midfield in the world at this level will be suicide. Elliot is still very young for me, he looks great when he has experience around him looking after him but this game is too important to throw in a kid, even one as great as him. Be great to see him get some minutes though, once we are 3 up 😉
Nah I wouldn’t be surprised at all if this one goes to penalties, even if we are probably the better team on paper.


8.) 23 May 2022 12:09:57
I wouldn't have Curtis involved, just not got any confidence in him in these sort of games. Gutted Thiago is out, that is a massive blow. He must be devastated. Fingers crossed salah turns up on Saturday.


9.) 23 May 2022 12:15:22
Spot on JK23.


10.) 23 May 2022 12:17:29
Modric and Kroos have never needed pace, their positioning and reading of the game more than counters that, Kroos in particular has never been the most mobile centre midfielder. The only way we win the game is by preventing those two any time on the ball.


11.) 23 May 2022 12:25:12
Agreed MK. For that reason alone I would be playing Hendo to support Trent and Konate as he he the pace to recovery that Matip does not. A shame as I feel Matip’s going forward may be required. I think Keita is more effective on the right of the midfield but I would never do that for the reasons as above. I wouldn’t mind Jones playing but I think Milners experience may be called upon and I would be comfortable with that on the left of our midfield 3. Even at his age he offers far more going forward than most of our other midfielders.


12.) 23 May 2022 12:26:42
Jk23, i'm not worried about legs. I'm suggesting that could be a game plan to counter Modric and Kroos. Let's be honest if it becomes a battle of who is the better footballers, their midfield trumps ours without Thiago.

I'd even rather Milner over Keita to be honest. He might be flagging by 60 minutes but he'll get right in the face of Modric and Kroos. We cannot afford to give them time. When we last played them we stood off Kroos a handful of times and he was creating goals from his own half.


13.) 23 May 2022 12:41:28
I'd also play Konate, Westwood. I know he made a mistake yeaterday but his pace mopping up in behind Trent could be a deciding factor. Vinicius is absolutely rapid.

{Ed0666's Note - Konate makes me nervous every time he plays. He is not at the desired standard yet Mo where near actually.


14.) 23 May 2022 12:47:39
Gutted for him.
Alli
Trent
Matip or konate?
Vvd
Robbo
Milly
Fab
Hendo
Salah
Mane
Diaz
Reckon that's the best line up for us currently now. Keita will no doubt start though. Salah needs to back up his talk.

{Ed0666's Note - no way would I start Milner as much as I love him


15.) 23 May 2022 13:10:59
Honestly, it will be a great shame if we cannot start Fab-Thiago in the final. I don't even want to think about that possibility right now. I'll postpone my panic until we get news of their fitness as it's not good for the health.

On Konate or Matip - until yesterday I would have said Konate to match Vini Jr speed. But Jimenez gave him a mare yesterday. Although saying that, Matip looked shaky too at times.


16.) 23 May 2022 13:28:03
Is it “official” that Thiago is out?
If he is, there’s no way that Elliott or Jones start a CL final in my opinion, way too stressful for them.
Elliott has hardly started half a dozen PL games lol.


17.) 23 May 2022 13:37:41
Mk my comment was very much tongue in cheek. And I agree Modric and Kroos have never been superior athletes but are a yard ahead of most other players due to their footballing intelligence just like Thiago.

Even if Modric was 56 I’d still be a little concerned about him going into a CL final. I think this game has the ingredients to be amazing. I just really hope we have enough left in the tank for 90 more mins.


18.) 23 May 2022 14:45:20
If Thiago doesn’t make it, Klopp could go with two sitting midfielders anyway, match Madrid.
Fabinho and Henderson.
Maybe have Bobby further up?
That could work for me, Bobby’s creativity to replace that of Thiago’s?


19.) 23 May 2022 15:02:30
Spain manager said today that he’s spoken with Thiago and apparently the injury isn’t serious and he may be fit for the final. Sounded positive?


20.) 23 May 2022 15:11:59
Is he definitely out?


21.) 23 May 2022 16:35:22
No Magico, not definitely out but possible available.


22.) 23 May 2022 18:06:57
Milner will be needed for pens. Best to go with Jones and high energy. I would go with Konate over Matip due to pace as well.


23.) 23 May 2022 21:02:13
Rambo Benzema will play through the middle and, as good as he is, at 35 isn't very quick so I think we would be better prioritising experience over pace at centre back.


24.) 23 May 2022 23:17:24
MK, not sure Thiago is out of the CL final cos he is facing a race to be fit and he could have continued but they took him off as a precaution, by some accounts. Let’s wait and see.


 

 

05 May 2022 22:00:06
Ryan Kent, take a bow lad. Congratulations Rangers.


1.) 05 May 2022 23:21:18
I posted on the rangers banter page, absolutely amazing run to the final for rangers, not only beating massive tracks but blowing them out of the water at times, really hope they go on and win it, be awesome to see 2 Scottish teams in the CL next season. We talk about how our fbs for our system perfectly, and Tavernier is another who just suits that team, he's so dangerous going forward.


 

 

17 Mar 2022 10:21:49
How excellent that arguably our best front 3 now is Diaz, Mane and Salah. Yet last night the goals came from Jota and Firmino!

Depth.


1.) 17 Mar 2022 11:17:03
Absolutely. I haven't seen such depth in the team since a few decades. Top notch depth in both attack and defense.


2.) 17 Mar 2022 11:42:49
100% agree on forward players and the depth we have but I think the crucial improvement we have made is defensively, as a team. we don't look like conceding whereas 1st half of season we always looked vunerrable. if the game was tight and we under pressure we conceded. it was either win handy r we dropped points. must say from winter break vvd has been back to his impresious best.


3.) 17 Mar 2022 11:51:32
Been following us since the 70s, Aray, and I can't remember us having a squad as good as this.


4.) 17 Mar 2022 13:55:30
That's why I think Klopp may just stay on esp. if we win the title cos he looks and sounds so giddy when he talks about the squad he now has. Here's to hoping.


5.) 17 Mar 2022 14:00:02
I love mane to bits think he's not the player of few seasons back, has clearly Lost 1 or 2 yard of pace and slowly but surely becoming liability coz of he's unwillingness to be substituted or start from the bench.

With Diaz now playing well think Klopp needs to address the situation in the summer before it blows up with Mane. Just my opinion tho what I see with my eyes lol.


6.) 17 Mar 2022 15:46:57
Looks like Utd won't have to worry about International injuries hampering their top 4 hopes and if they're really lucky slabhead will got crocked also :)


7.) 17 Mar 2022 15:52:10
That's a ridiculous take, Kopforever!

Mane is in top 5 scorers in league, has been playing all 3 of the forward positions at times this season, and was never as rapid as Salah on the other side, Mane's ability to create space with a quick direction change was always his strongest suit. Plus, he's good in the air for his size and presses like a beast wherever he's playing.

No team in the world has a better 5 forwards in their squad, and they all suit how we play to a T. It also makes me quite calm about the possibility of any of them moving on, as I believe it's the system that makes the player, and I have full faith in the management team identifying the correct type of players to come in if they are replacing any of the current group.


8.) 17 Mar 2022 16:15:13
100% agree RP. But fantastic to see Bobby so on it last night. Pressing, accurate passing, brilliant to see.


9.) 17 Mar 2022 16:50:36
We could be the first team to ever win the quadruple and then sell arguably our 2 best forwards straight after.

{Ed0666's Note - that’s because no one’s done a quadruple before 😂


10.) 17 Mar 2022 17:03:12
Not ridiculous at all RP mate, problem with mane is he isn't willing to to start from the bench or being substituted.

Klopp needs to be very clear with him in the summer and tell him now we have got a lot of options upfront and he isn't going to play all games coz if Klopp doesn't address it then will have distasteful situation with him.

I absolutely agree we are better with him but not when he starts throwing he's tantrums hence Klopp needs to talk to him and make him understand abt he's role in the team so both parties have clarity instead of blowing up middle of the season.


11.) 17 Mar 2022 17:03:07
Ed066 🤣🤣. You know what I meant.

{Ed0666's Note - I know I was trying to be pedantic like Ed’s 001 it’s annoying as hell won’t happen again mate 😂


12.) 17 Mar 2022 17:37:47
Kopforever I get what you mean mate with Mane and Salah is exactly the same.

But for me there’s a different between tantrums and throwing their toys out of the pram and causing dressing room unrest and being annoyed / disappointed at being taken off or not playing.

I don’t think klopp would stand for players that aren’t pulling in the same direction as him. Some players are a lot more emotionally involved than others.

I’ve played a couple of sports too a good standard and I’ve come across lots of people who are brilliant off the pitch but then when they’re competing they’re like different people and that’s not a bad thing. We’re all built differently.


13.) 17 Mar 2022 17:58:34
I get what you're saying JK mate and I know we both have supported mane here like crazy when most of the posters wanted him out.

But yesterday for the 1st time I saw Klopp was forced to substitute Diaz despite him playing brilliantly and was everywhere on the pitch defending attacking pressing harassing the opposition players just name it coz he knew if he substituted Mane that early then he was going to blow up the place and would be everywhere in the media etc and this is the last thing we want as a club.

Hence it's better for Klopp to talk to Mane face to face and explain him with the options we've upfront he isn't going to play every game so he should've some clarity.


14.) 17 Mar 2022 18:25:21
Klopp staying on beyond his current contract? I don't know, I have my doubts. I hope he does, but he strikes me as one of those "say what I mean and mean what I say" type of guys. Except when he's playing mind games via the media.


15.) 17 Mar 2022 18:45:50
Kopforever If Mane was that kind of character then I cannot see him surviving 5 years under Klopp.

Klopp to me doesn’t appear like a manager who folds and makes his decisions with how a players feelings come into the deciding factor in his decision making.

When sass the last time we saw any of our players argue on the pitch. If there were pre Madonna’s in there we’d know about it.

Mane might huff and puff when he comes off but Salah is basically holding the club to ransom and having his agent stirring the pot on social media. But Klopp will continue to pick him and if he drops his wage demands he will sign a new contract and the reasons the fans have given like form, his age, he’ll upset the rest of the squad with his pay etc will
Still be there but will be forgotten about.

But for me we are on the cusp of something special here and even if we fail to win the quadruple it shows how amazing this squad is. But to lose Salah and Mane and maybe even Bobby doesn’t exactly strengthen us for next season.


16.) 17 Mar 2022 18:52:01
Think he's going to extend he's contract if we continue winning major honours.

Think he's few days back Interview from no to he will see if he has energy left to continue was a huge change when he was asked abt extending he's contract.


17.) 17 Mar 2022 19:28:33
Huge difference think we had no one to challenge he's place now things are different. Think will have better understanding as the season progresses.

It would be absolutely mad for Klopp to give that much importance to Salah's agent.

You're right abt the squad and not good enough of loosing that amount of quality/ experience in just blink of an eye. I absolutely agree 👍.


18.) 17 Mar 2022 19:40:03
I might be wrong but didn’t Klopp say he promised his wife he would leave in 2024.

Might not be the trophies but convincing the old ball and chain.


 

 

 

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24 May 2022 18:59:10
Great if it happens 😂 i bet Rice has played more minutes in the last 3 seasons on his own, than Ox and Naby combined.


 

 

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23 May 2022 12:09:10
VVVV, i watched Tchouameni for the first time against RC Lens the other day and he did not look like he'd immediately improve us, albeit one game is a tiny sample size. Passing was average, his crosses were over hit, when he tried to play a through ball he got it wrong most times, he fell over to gift Lens a golden chance, twice a player ghosted past him without him making a challenge, he blazed a shot a mile off target, and to cap it off he lost his man on a set piece for Lens to equalise in added time.

I'll give him his dues, he did make a lot of interceptions and he was very good at pressuring players into mistakes in their own 3rd. He did also get up and down the pitch well often popping up in both boxes.

I won't write him off as a player from 90 minutes, but from what i did see he'd need to improve massively on that performance to get near our best XI.


 

 

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22 May 2022 14:10:09
No way will Jones leave in the near future. He's a really talented young lad who is working with world class coaches and role models at his boyhood club (who also happen to be one of the best teams in Europe) . Why would he even consider leaving?


 

 

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21 May 2022 08:10:30
Ed, i believe he's played a lot as a striker this season. Anyway like i said, i'm just sharing a rumour on a rumour site 😅.

{Ed0666's Note - and you’re on a rumours page mate so keep those rumours coming fella. I know people that are deep rooted in the inner workings of football that tell me stuff about transfers and a lot of it doesent come to fruition not because they are BS’ing me but because transfers can break down at any given second as they are so flimsy in nature


 

 

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21 May 2022 16:03:33
Calvin Ramsay and Fabio Carvalho seem to be the two that are most likely right now. They're the 2 name dropped by Fabrizio Romano and Ed002.


 

 

 

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25 May 2022 14:46:15
I second Davey's point. August 2019 i found out my fiancee and mother of my child was cheating on me. Absolutely devastating.

I lost over a stone in weight and was sleeping about 2-3 hours a night at best. February 2021 i decided enough was enough. Went to my GP and was diagnosed with a very bad case of anxiety. Medication helped give me the kick to get back out there. Started eating better, sleeping longer and even took up football again (which in turn as given me a support network of at least 10 really good friends) .

To all the men out there embarrassed to seek help, don't be. The worst funeral I've ever attended was a man in his early 50's who committed suicide. His girlfriend and kids didn't even know he was struggling and his eldest sons cry will haunt me as long as i walk this earth. Don't let that be your family.


 

 

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25 May 2022 19:33:48
3 goals and 4 assists in his last 10 appearances. 7 goal involvements in 10 from a winger? Not bad at all considering those games included Man City semi final, Man United derby, Everton derby, an in form Tottenham, a revived Newcastle, defensively solid Wolves, both legs of a CL semi final against a very solid Villareal, and Chelsea in an FA Cup final in which he only played 30 minutes due to injury.

What do you expect from the bloke at the back end of a gruelling season when we've had massive game after massive game? Just because his form in the 1st half of the season was prime Ronaldo/ Messi level, doesn't mean his current form is "pure sh##te". Most wingers would dream of that kind of return across those 10 particular fixtures. You know across his last 10 games Diaz has 3 goals and 3 assists. So 1 less assist than Mo and yet most people on here will say he's been scintillating.

I'm sorry, I'm not buying it. I was fuming with Salah and his agent earlier in the season and was happy to bomb him out for that reason alone. But Salah has finally said the right thing and that should be applauded in the interest of fairness. He is clearly a victim of his own success.


 

 

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25 May 2022 18:09:33
Enjoyed reading these replies lads. Some great arguments.


 

 

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25 May 2022 18:08:49
So what if he leaves for free? Why can't people just be happy that one of the top 10 players in world football right now has just said he will play for us next season? 😂

Baffled by the negative reactions to this. Sounds like many just wanted to trade him in for a shiny New (nez) toy! Maybe in another 12 months time Gordon or Elliott will replace him? Or maybe he'll stay for another 3 years beyond then? Who knows. Let's just enjoy him whilst he's ours!


 

 

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25 May 2022 18:09:33
Enjoyed reading these replies lads. Some great arguments.