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18 Sep 2020 20:40:14
Delighted with Thiago and the apparently imminent arrival of Jota, but where's the money coming from?

Are confident enough of offloading Grujic, Wilson, Karius, maybe Origi or Wijnaldum that we're pressing ahead knowing we'll ultimately break even (ish) . Or are we borrowing?

Or is this a bad question that'll give an Ed a headache?


1.) 18 Sep 2020 23:11:22
Why are you trying to kill the buzz mate? We’ve won everything in last couple of years playing great football. Why does money concern you? there are better people at the club than us to take care of that. Enjoy the ride or you will miss it.


2.) 18 Sep 2020 23:11:24
Trust Edwards and fsg. They know what they’re doing.


3.) 19 Sep 2020 01:24:32
It is called Creative Accountancy from Fenway.


4.) 19 Sep 2020 01:24:49
This has me worries that some "shock" deal will come out of this, and Mane's leaving.


5.) 19 Sep 2020 02:45:00
How can you be concerned with money?
Win the Champions league - spend nothing
Win the league - spend less than the competitors.
Liverpool have access to the cash to buy whoever they want without coming anywhere close to distress.
Also, who cares if they borrow? Every business borrows money to better itself. (LFC has always been a business btw)

{Ed0666's Note - I’m not sure we have the money to buy whoever without stress at all Mr Risdale.


6.) 19 Sep 2020 02:57:01
People need to be clearer on terms of how transfers are agreed before questioning financial sense. Thiago will only cost us 5mil this year and 5mil each of following 3 summer. Jota is not signing on the condition we pay a big lump now. he's going to be on a 5 year contract and because Liverpool are strong now clubs will be easier to agree to future bonuses or add ons. We see our players winning individual awards, top of goal scoring lists, club titles looking more common so those add on payments are easier to negotiate. Apparently we only more than 20 mil for thiago if he wins either league, CL or ballon d'or in his contract length so jota likely to have clauses as no chance we pay any big money this year. We will sell players which is obvious but it was silly to think we had to wait to get a certain amount which was then allowing us to spend instantly. For example it was possible that coutinho winning the European cup at any stage during his Barcelona contract length meant we would receive a lump of payment that was not guaranteed in the figure that was publically named as total cost. The likes of Danny ings having such a strong season and reaching accolades etc may be reasons behind us getting earlier than expected income. Jota will likely be balanced in our books with the likes of Wilson, shaqiri, origi or Brewster now seemingly on the market. With 2 or even 3 not being needed they will easily pay the jota cost and more. Hoever brings in 10mil as does lovren so 20 mil at least income for rarely needed defenders.

It's not so simple as thinking we can't deal with transfers until the minute we officially anounce a sale and just get that price immediately in the bank to spend. We've obviously been planning on thiago and jota for a period of time with realistic prediction of what players will leave and earn us so financial impact will never be a wishful gamble. We moan and get frustration but we never have any clue to what is happening within so always presume that activity in the public eye represents the activity in real life. Why would we actually operate under that strategy openly? Every other club would get negotiation strenght if that was so obvious. Bayern would be able to be stubborn if knowing that thiago was wanted only after gini for example left and we were in need for his replacement. If we tried to immediately offer decent money for a CB after lovren left clubs could have held out for more. It's smart business that we have prioritised the areas we weren't yet desperate to fill. I expect we now focus on shipping out the weaker players who thiago and jota will take upgrade while adding another defender at some point when the price best suits us instead oflooking forced to replace our defensive outgoings.

{Ed0666's Note - you took my advice well done sir and Thankyou.


7.) 19 Sep 2020 05:57:40
OmG har has used paragraphs, well done sir 😄.


8.) 19 Sep 2020 07:53:57
That grammarly software is good, isn't it? 😂.


9.) 19 Sep 2020 07:54:47
Christos, obviously haven’t frequented the page much recently. Ed002 has repeatedly explained that we had pre spent much of our tournament winnings. I am a little concerned with where this money is coming from but I am also not Liverpool’s accountant, wish I was. Any recruiters lurking I’m fully qualified, come get me ;) . Either way, I trust the club to be doing the right thing and I imagine we are confident in sales of out of favour players rather than Mane.


10.) 20 Sep 2020 00:23:11
Cotsi, it isn't possible to pre-spend money. Businesses invest according to their anticipated cashflow. ED002 is wrong.
The windfalls from winning the CL and EPL might lower the debt % but the winnings certainly weren't "prespent" as that isn't how any of this works.


 

 

13 Dec 2019 18:10:37
It gets better: Milner signs a new deal.


1.) 13 Dec 2019 18:32:25
That's more good news.


2.) 13 Dec 2019 18:54:40
Perfect. Milner more than deserves it.


3.) 13 Dec 2019 19:00:31
What next today eh, even more good news coming out of the club!


4.) 13 Dec 2019 19:45:28
Kylian Mbappé to sign in January!


5.) 13 Dec 2019 19:52:42
Really pleased Milner has done that. He embodies everything Liverpool has become. One of our best.


6.) 14 Dec 2019 04:02:28
Does he get 10 ribenas as goal bonus now?


7.) 14 Dec 2019 10:02:47
Am I mistaken or he told he is not drinking anymore Ribena? 😅.


8.) 14 Dec 2019 10:36:46
This is excellent news very happy. Hopefully the younger talent can lean from a true professional of the game.


 

 

26 Nov 2014 18:43:22
Team: Mignolet, Manquillo, Skrtel, Toure, Johnson, Lucas, Gerrard, Allen, Henderson, Sterling, Lambert

Be interesting to see how Gerrard and Lucas are deployed. I'm assuming it'll be a diamond with Gerrard at the tip and Lucas at the base, but I'm worried that it'll be both of them as DMs which didn't exactly work against West Ham.


 

 

 

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30 Dec 2020 22:16:51
So I see some are back to "Klopp out" and the like over 2 draws.

Best fans in the world and all that though.


1.) 30 Dec 2020 23:17:45
They aren’t fans just sad online trolls. Nothing to see here.


2.) 30 Dec 2020 23:24:11
Literally zero people are saying this on the entire planet.


3.) 30 Dec 2020 23:26:09
Whoever is calling for Klopps head are mental. The bloke is a legend at the club. Saying that though he isn’t perfect and I don’t know if the fixture and sub arguments have taken his eye off the ball as we seem to be going for hit and hope. Against Villa, Fulham, Brighton and now Newcastle it seems like he was unable to change anything be it formation or subs on earlier and it was a case of leave it as it was and hope for the best. Minamino went from having his best game for us and scoring a goal against palace to falling behind Origi on the subs bench. It took for Thiago to come on today for us to stop the long balls and start passing through the midfield but I think that was more the players recognising his quality and were giving him the ball. There again what do I know. I’m just a fan and Klopp is a world class manager. But that’s the beauty of the game everyone can have an opinion. Expecting some fans now to give me some criticism as they prefer to bury their head in the sand that. Admit when things aren’t going well. On another note if Phillips is the answer then I don’t know what that question is.


4.) 31 Dec 2020 00:04:32
Klopp has to stay as long as he can, but he seems to has lost something, bringing on Origi for two minutes and taking Bobby off was strange the Shaq for two minutes, what can he do in two mins,
apart from Fab and Ali and Robbo, the rest need a rest, so many basics not good enough .
I can't get my head around how poor we were last two games,
I think that we are in trouble .


5.) 31 Dec 2020 01:10:26
Might they be glory hunters? Now that we are winning we are bound to have some?


6.) 31 Dec 2020 02:16:06
Totally agree JK I think the biggest mistake was to leave gini out. Jones and milner in the midfield just made us totally toothless.

We have a word class front 3 but the only supply came from trent and robbo. The midfield were none existent until thiago came on. And I must say he won every aerial battle and pinged some beautiful passes around. I hope he gets and stays fit but that's jones's run in the side done. He is a good player but some of his decisions in the last few games have not been the top class that we have come to expect so I think he needs a rest and recharge his batteries.


7.) 31 Dec 2020 03:13:41
Lol SR, you couldn't make it up mate.


8.) 31 Dec 2020 04:03:42
Where on this platform are there people saying klopp out? Or is that your hyperbole response to the negativity surrounding the game. You can’t begrudge people being concerned about these results, it’s against teams that we should be putting away easily and we were winning tight games like this last season. Anyone that thought we wouldn’t drop off after 2-3 years of elite level performances are very short sighted, now we’re with the chasing pack and there isn’t much separating us in terms of performances, and personally, as long as it’s united chasing us I’ll think we will bottle it, because United seem to have the psychological edge against us, I do think united will be the cause of their own undoing but no one can say they’re confident that we will win the title, and this was to be expected at the end of last season. There’s no real excuses for games like Fulham, West Brom, Newcastle etc, blaming injuries or lack of preseason doesn’t cut it for me. We just aren’t quite with it at the moment and I don’t think we’re mentally prepared for another gruelling long season the likes of which we’ve had for the past 2-3 seasons now. This is modern football, things change quickly and this group isn’t the same as it was last season. We will see what transpires and hope I’m left with egg on my face, but I think we’re back to being an inconsistent outfit again, one that has the ability to bottle leads and drop points to anyone. I’m afraid the experience of last year will mean little in this race. I hope I’m wrong.


9.) 31 Dec 2020 07:05:10
I thought Jones was very poor last night as was nat Phillips. Jones should of been replaced much earlier in the game and tbh Gini should of started the game. We have to sign a CB otherwise it will cost us. The forwards are knackered. All in all a very poor performance. I think thiago will be immense and am glad he's back now.


 

 

07 Nov 2020 23:52:19
Oh wow, I just saw the Bamford "offside".

It's amazing. I think this might actually be a conscious effort by PMGOL to get VAR scrapped.


1.) 08 Nov 2020 06:23:54
shocking decision, why can it not be as simple as using the feet as the game is called FOOTball after all, all these finger, arm pit or backside offside decisions is just plain stupid, stupid and I will say it again stupid.


2.) 08 Nov 2020 08:30:44
It’s simpler then that king, they need to stop turning it into an etch a sketch and stop using lines. No one would of called that offside, to make it worse their not even looking across the line to see the decision.

If there going to do that they need the equivalent of the hare in dog racing to follow the action. I’m adamant you can’t get the right answer from taking the picture on an angle it’s the equivalent of those optical illusions.


3.) 08 Nov 2020 08:39:55
You can add the Westham goal to that as well. A player who is miles offside who then interferes with the play and the goal is given. Nothing is surprising anymore!


4.) 08 Nov 2020 11:08:16
Sorry lads got to disagree regards the west ham goal it's not an offence just to be in an offside position you either have to get the ball or actively trying to get the ball which the forward pulled out of trying to get the ball but as for bamford goal it should have stood because any part of your body which you can score a goal with counts as offside not your finger VAR is slowly killing g the game opinions please but be gentle.


5.) 08 Nov 2020 12:02:36
I do understand the logic of "any part of his body he can score with" to a degree.

But since they're going to the trouble of looking at the replay frame by frame and using an electron microscope to see was he offside, why not go the extra step and measure it from the part of his body that he actually scored with? Not the top of his arm that he could have scored with, but didn't.

Bamford was denied a goal because he pointed to where he wanted a team mate to put the ball. It's so absurd that if you had told someone 3 years ago that this would happen they would've had you committed to the looney bin.


6.) 08 Nov 2020 12:17:25
I don't often agree with Lineker but last night he said "once the dots come out its over, get rid of the dots. Level at worst". I can't wait for a player to score with the top of his arm and for it to be disallowed, wrong under the new rule, but disallowed none the less.


7.) 08 Nov 2020 13:10:31
Hunter I agree its not an offence to be standing offside but if you watch that west ham goal the offside player makes an attempt for the ball just doesn't get there. It forces a hurried clearance which leads to the goal. You don't agree mate?


8.) 08 Nov 2020 15:00:28
No mate sorry I don't agree law 5 says in the opinion of the referee everybody has an opinion afterwards but not the guts to do the course and referee an actual game then they will realise as to how hard it actually is.


9.) 08 Nov 2020 16:19:02
No doubt it's not an easy game to ref at all. The speed which things happen make it very difficult but for me the player is in an offside position and he influences the clearance. Respect your view and that's what this site is about. Another call that bothers me is when a player is offside and not deemed "active" yet a keeper has to wait to the ball has cleared that player before reacting. That is the last time I will defend keepers lol.


 

 

17 Oct 2020
New image uploaded to the
Liverpool Player Sightings page entitled, "Offside"


 

 

17 Oct 2020 14:34:57
I cannot believe that. Pickford not even booked for a knee height, two footed scissor challenge because they "didn't look at it", but they can freeze frame a level offside decision, and whip out a vernier calipers to determine that Mane's shoulder was maybe 1/ 1000th of an inch offside.

VAR is not fit for purpose.

I'm sure it'll be dismissed as 'bitterness' or clever blokes will come along to say 'well we still conceded two poor goals, it shouldn't have mattered, I'm clever etc. etc. ', but I don't care. That was absolute nonsense and anyone who says otherwise or tries to play down how utterly utterly bad that was is wrong, simple as that.

It's as close as I think we'll ever see to a team be intentionally cheated out of a win in the Premier League.


1.) 17 Oct 2020 14:39:34
Spot on mate, couldn't agree more, it's really pissed me off.


2.) 17 Oct 2020 14:41:47
I don't think its VAR that's the issue its idiots using it. We have been cheated today plain and simple. Embarrassing officiating.


3.) 17 Oct 2020 14:43:11
Still struggling with the last call, is level not on side anymore?


4.) 17 Oct 2020 14:46:49
Just had another look at the "offside" and it's worse than I thought. It looks like they've drawn their precious bloody line from his elbow, not his shoulder. Not a part of his body he can score with is it?

Incompetence of the highest order.


5.) 17 Oct 2020 14:49:23
Who is looking at these decisions. This is ruining football. Surely these are clear cut decisions.


6.) 17 Oct 2020 15:05:01
the line is really confusing. is it from the 'top of the shoulder' that is considered ok? but the line they have drawn doesn't look like it comes from the top of the shoulder or anywhere near it. literally looks like it's drawn down from Mane's elbow?

anyways I'm actually ok with VAR for offsides. cos I think if it's offside, no matter how marginal then it is offside. but that picture, like some others, just doesn't look very clear.


7.) 17 Oct 2020 15:19:58
Next time pickFord faces an offside striker he'll drop kick him in the face. Then it'll be suplex's and flying closelines. Coz a player is minutely offside (no way Jp could've known that) its okay to foul him.

I think dcl is looking great this season but if Everton play like that all year they won't be finishing top four. I really didn't want to feel bitter if we didn't win today but its hard not to feel so when we out fought them, out thought them out worked them and out classed them and were on the end of so many poor decisions.

Tbf to evdrton they put up a fight, could easily have rolled over after one nil early on. Thiago was fantastic and Henderson. The whole midfield did well. Vvd will be a huge miss though.


8.) 17 Oct 2020 15:48:48
Reminds me of the "arm-pit" offside on Bobby vs Villa last season. Nobody said a damn thing about it cos LFC won the game at the end. This just goes to show how brilliant our title win was last season. Look at all the crap we had to overcome to win last season. It will be the same thing this season, mark my words.


 

 

17 Oct 2020 11:34:54
Nice easy assignment for Thiago's first PL start.


1.) 17 Oct 2020 11:44:24
Our strongest line-up for me (except keeper of course)


2.) 17 Oct 2020 11:49:58
Rm can you do a post please mate saying Thiago definitely won’t score and get mom as everytime you assure us he’s not playing he does 😜.


3.) 17 Oct 2020 13:13:30
Pickford is a lucky man still to be on the pitch terrible challenge on virgil.


4.) 17 Oct 2020 13:23:10
So, if I see the offside flag go up I can jump legs first into a challenge?


5.) 17 Oct 2020 13:24:25
Why is it that we still can’t beat the first man on a corner? Seems to have been like this for a few years now.


6.) 17 Oct 2020 13:32:19
If pickford seen the offside flag up then that's the 1st thing he has seen all day VAR should have proved he was onside and so far so good regards adrian.


7.) 17 Oct 2020 15:59:15
JK23, I see what you did there. Thiago was perfect all game and indeed, I stand corrected.


8.) 17 Oct 2020 17:50:24
Rm only pulling your leg mate. Tongue in cheek brother 💪.


 

 

 

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09 Dec 2020 19:21:53
Ferraris are made in Modena, 150 miles away, actually.


 

 

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08 Dec 2020 19:27:18
I said when he left that I reckoned he'd be in China by now. Looks like he can't even command that.

If he keeps going the way he's going, we might see him at Galway Utd at some point in the future.


 

 

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10 Nov 2020 14:56:03
Zed - I'm pretty sure Fabinho's dropped into center half and pushed Gomez to right back in games more than once since he joined (Community Shield, for example) . Conversely, I don't think I've seen him play right back for us ever. Even though he regularly played right back for Monaco.

Personally I don't want to move Gomez out of the center, but I think that's what'll happen unless Klopp uses Williams.


 

 

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19 Oct 2020 09:52:22
Even if we could sign Garay, we'd be replacing a player out with a cruciate ligament injury with one recovering from a cruciate ligament injury.

When someone good is on a free, do people not think to check why?


 

 

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14 Oct 2020 22:00:50
As far as I can tell this link originates from Paul Robinson suggesting it might be a good idea.


 

 

 

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15 Jan 2021 23:04:15
I do enjoy that Rashford has embarrassed the Conservative and Unionist Party, but he's hardly the only footballer to engage in charitable activities.

As someone said, has Mane gotten banners or visible appreciation from the Old Trafford faithful for his charitable work? Or from any club? How about Bellamy? I'm sure there's plenty more that we can add to that list.

He's a good lad Rashford, but I'll pass on the banner.

{Ed025's Note - how very magnanamous of you SR, your reputation as a club preceeds you mate..


 

 

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13 Jan 2021 19:22:26
Will this view change if Foden has a few bad games in a row?

Cos Jones was the greatest thing since sliced bread until he had a few poor performances on the bounce.


 

 

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08 Jan 2021 17:32:11
Circumstances are a bit different, so personally I would hope we didn't push the World Club Cup last year as a reason for proceeding with the match.

Maybe I'll be corrected on this, but it might have been open to Villa to request a postponement but they opted not to due to fixture congestion. As I understand it, they have fixtures every midweek until the middle of February and the 4th round is due to be played on the weekend of the 23rd of January.

So they'd have had to have played Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday in one week to fit it in or something like that. And they might still be missing a load of first teamers by the time the revised date comes around anyway.


 

 

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08 Jan 2021 11:46:25
I wonder what all the people asking for the strongest XI would say if Fabinho or Mane pull up with a hamstring problem from playing against a bunch of kids in near freezing weather?

Klopp should field the exact side he was planning to field before this announcement, which based on track record will likely be a mixture of kids and squad players. Kelleher, both Williamses, Phillips, Ox, Shaq, Taku etc.

Salah et al will probably be on the bench so the option is there if we aren't winning after 60 minutes.


 

 

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07 Jan 2021 23:20:35
Field a substantially rotated squad as we probably intended to do anyway.