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18 Sep 2020 20:40:14
Delighted with Thiago and the apparently imminent arrival of Jota, but where's the money coming from?
Are confident enough of offloading Grujic, Wilson, Karius, maybe Origi or Wijnaldum that we're pressing ahead knowing we'll ultimately break even (ish) . Or are we borrowing?
Or is this a bad question that'll give an Ed a headache?
1.) 18 Sep 2020 23:11:22
Why are you trying to kill the buzz mate? We’ve won everything in last couple of years playing great football. Why does money concern you? there are better people at the club than us to take care of that. Enjoy the ride or you will miss it.
2.) 18 Sep 2020 23:11:24
Trust Edwards and fsg. They know what they’re doing.
3.) 19 Sep 2020 01:24:32
It is called Creative Accountancy from Fenway.
4.) 19 Sep 2020 01:24:49
This has me worries that some "shock" deal will come out of this, and Mane's leaving.
5.) 19 Sep 2020 02:45:00
How can you be concerned with money?
Win the Champions league - spend nothing
Win the league - spend less than the competitors.
Liverpool have access to the cash to buy whoever they want without coming anywhere close to distress.
Also, who cares if they borrow? Every business borrows money to better itself. (LFC has always been a business btw)
{Ed0666's Note - I’m not sure we have the money to buy whoever without stress at all Mr Risdale.
6.) 19 Sep 2020 02:57:01
People need to be clearer on terms of how transfers are agreed before questioning financial sense. Thiago will only cost us 5mil this year and 5mil each of following 3 summer. Jota is not signing on the condition we pay a big lump now. he's going to be on a 5 year contract and because Liverpool are strong now clubs will be easier to agree to future bonuses or add ons. We see our players winning individual awards, top of goal scoring lists, club titles looking more common so those add on payments are easier to negotiate. Apparently we only more than 20 mil for thiago if he wins either league, CL or ballon d'or in his contract length so jota likely to have clauses as no chance we pay any big money this year. We will sell players which is obvious but it was silly to think we had to wait to get a certain amount which was then allowing us to spend instantly. For example it was possible that coutinho winning the European cup at any stage during his Barcelona contract length meant we would receive a lump of payment that was not guaranteed in the figure that was publically named as total cost. The likes of Danny ings having such a strong season and reaching accolades etc may be reasons behind us getting earlier than expected income. Jota will likely be balanced in our books with the likes of Wilson, shaqiri, origi or Brewster now seemingly on the market. With 2 or even 3 not being needed they will easily pay the jota cost and more. Hoever brings in 10mil as does lovren so 20 mil at least income for rarely needed defenders.
It's not so simple as thinking we can't deal with transfers until the minute we officially anounce a sale and just get that price immediately in the bank to spend. We've obviously been planning on thiago and jota for a period of time with realistic prediction of what players will leave and earn us so financial impact will never be a wishful gamble. We moan and get frustration but we never have any clue to what is happening within so always presume that activity in the public eye represents the activity in real life. Why would we actually operate under that strategy openly? Every other club would get negotiation strenght if that was so obvious. Bayern would be able to be stubborn if knowing that thiago was wanted only after gini for example left and we were in need for his replacement. If we tried to immediately offer decent money for a CB after lovren left clubs could have held out for more. It's smart business that we have prioritised the areas we weren't yet desperate to fill. I expect we now focus on shipping out the weaker players who thiago and jota will take upgrade while adding another defender at some point when the price best suits us instead oflooking forced to replace our defensive outgoings.
{Ed0666's Note - you took my advice well done sir and Thankyou.
7.) 19 Sep 2020 05:57:40
OmG har has used paragraphs, well done sir 😄.
8.) 19 Sep 2020 07:53:57
That grammarly software is good, isn't it? 😂.
9.) 19 Sep 2020 07:54:47
Christos, obviously haven’t frequented the page much recently. Ed002 has repeatedly explained that we had pre spent much of our tournament winnings. I am a little concerned with where this money is coming from but I am also not Liverpool’s accountant, wish I was. Any recruiters lurking I’m fully qualified, come get me ;) . Either way, I trust the club to be doing the right thing and I imagine we are confident in sales of out of favour players rather than Mane.
10.) 20 Sep 2020 00:23:11
Cotsi, it isn't possible to pre-spend money. Businesses invest according to their anticipated cashflow. ED002 is wrong.
The windfalls from winning the CL and EPL might lower the debt % but the winnings certainly weren't "prespent" as that isn't how any of this works.
13 Dec 2019 18:10:37
It gets better: Milner signs a new deal.
1.) 13 Dec 2019 18:32:25
That's more good news.
2.) 13 Dec 2019 18:54:40
Perfect. Milner more than deserves it.
3.) 13 Dec 2019 19:00:31
What next today eh, even more good news coming out of the club!
4.) 13 Dec 2019 19:45:28
Kylian Mbappé to sign in January!
5.) 13 Dec 2019 19:52:42
Really pleased Milner has done that. He embodies everything Liverpool has become. One of our best.
6.) 14 Dec 2019 04:02:28
Does he get 10 ribenas as goal bonus now?
7.) 14 Dec 2019 10:02:47
Am I mistaken or he told he is not drinking anymore Ribena? 😅.
8.) 14 Dec 2019 10:36:46
This is excellent news very happy. Hopefully the younger talent can lean from a true professional of the game.
26 Nov 2014 18:43:22
Team: Mignolet, Manquillo, Skrtel, Toure, Johnson, Lucas, Gerrard, Allen, Henderson, Sterling, Lambert
Be interesting to see how Gerrard and Lucas are deployed. I'm assuming it'll be a diamond with Gerrard at the tip and Lucas at the base, but I'm worried that it'll be both of them as DMs which didn't exactly work against West Ham.
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24 Mar 2025 09:12:21
Little trivia quiz.
Since the introduction of permanent squad numbers, name a Liverpool player who's had two different numbers, both whilst playing for us, in the same season.
I can think of two examples. There could be more.
1.) 24 Mar 2025 10:50:22
Tricky one that mate, I can't think of one! not in the same season.
2.) 24 Mar 2025 10:59:33
Robbie Fowler had five: 14 -> 23 -> 12 -> 11 -> 9
(He also reused 2 of these in his second spell: 11 -> 9)
3.) 24 Mar 2025 11:11:53
In one season Shipley?
4.) 24 Mar 2025 11:55:10
Harvey Elliott. He had 46 when he joined and took the no. 19 a couple of years after Sadio took the no. 10 after Cou left.
5.) 24 Mar 2025 11:56:31
Did collymore have a couple?
6.) 24 Mar 2025 11:59:57
Ooo borini?
7.) 24 Mar 2025 12:00:03
Carroll was 9 in domestic competitions and 39 in Europa League in his first season as Torres had already been registered as 9 in Europa that season.
8.) 24 Mar 2025 12:08:23
Mane must be one? He took coutinhos nr 10 when he left and had like 18, 19 before?
9.) 24 Mar 2025 12:16:44
I going to guess but when Gerrard played with nr 17 and took 8 that was during one season?
10.) 24 Mar 2025 12:17:07
Did Aurelio wear 2 different shirt numbers in one season? 12 and 6 maybe.
11.) 24 Mar 2025 12:19:05
I can't think of any who used 2 numbers in the same season.
Obviously Firmino went 11 to 9, Ali 13 to 1, Gomez 12 to 2, Nunez 27 to 9 etc. but I don't think any wore 2 different ones in the same season. Didn't think you'd be allowed to.
12.) 24 Mar 2025 12:20:50
I can't think of any who changed their number midway through the season. You'd have to tell us the answer SR :)
13.) 24 Mar 2025 13:04:18
Babbity Rabbity's got one. Andy Carroll took no. 9 when he arrived, but due to European rules he couldn't wear no. 9 in the Europa League cos Torres had already used it for us that season. So he was no. 39 or no. 29. Can't remember which.
The other one I was thinking of was Pepe Reina. He was normally no. 25, but the Club World Cup at the time required teams to name a 23 man squad and then number them 1 - 23. So he was no. 12 in the CWC.
And actually, now that I look, there were two more players in the CWC squad that season who didn't have their regular number, because their regular number was greater than 23. See can you guess them.
14.) 24 Mar 2025 14:01:38
I got it wrong. Carroll was 29 not 39.
15.) 24 Mar 2025 14:52:44
Interesting information that 'Something Red'.
Is Sinama Pongolle one? He was No.24 and I remember him playing in that just before going to Blackburn.
16.) 24 Mar 2025 15:39:04
Yes Gunn, Sinama-Pongolle was no. 11 in the CWC.
17.) 24 Mar 2025 17:24:48
Was the other one Colin’s son? Stephen Warnock?
18.) 24 Mar 2025 18:33:54
Was Sami hypia one as well maybe 12 or something before he became 4?
19.) 24 Mar 2025 18:53:09
StEtienneAmen. Yep. It was Warnock. No. 2 for the CWC, whilst regularly no. 28.
16 Mar 2025 18:35:00
Well there's two ways of looking at things. Either:
A) The team leading the league by 12 points and the top scorer and assist leader in the Prem are, in fact, terrible.
or
B) We got punished for not rotating enough. The likes of Elliot, Endo, Quansah and Chiesa should've at least started against Southampton.
It may not have made the difference, but it would've given us some chance.
We're going to win the league anyway.
1.) 16 Mar 2025 18:49:07
Probably the reason we’re winning the league is because we haven’t rotated much, but it’s cost us in the other competitions where we’re now looking jaded.
We’ve often not been outstanding in the league but have been the best and most consistent team. We’ve ground out results as other teams have faltered. In the cups with PSG we came up against a better team over two legs, Newcastle wanted it more today, and least said about Plymouth the better. That’s how it goes in knock out or one off games.
2.) 16 Mar 2025 18:50:46
Other observations:
We missed Trent's passing for the whole game, as well as his crossing ability near the end. We'll be just fine when he goes to Madrid though, cos Sky Sports have told me he can't defend.
Having Jota on the pitch is like playing with 10 men against anyone decent. When was the last time he scored? Was it against Notts Forest? I get Nunez is flawed and not good enough either, but at least there's some possibility he'll graft and contribute something. Jota's started 3 of the last 4, including 3 huge knockout games and has been entirely anonymous in all of them. He actually looks like he's playing with an injury.
Elliot should've come on in the 55th minute, at least he threaded a few decent balls in around their box.
3.) 16 Mar 2025 19:12:41
Jota was crap tonight. Nunez came on and was just as crap.
09 Mar 2025 18:49:48
Check out the highlights from Spurs v Bournemouth. Kerkez' run and cross for Bournemouth's first goal reminded me of peak Robbo.
1.) 10 Mar 2025 14:20:37
The fella has openly said he's a united fan, can we stop pushing this one please?
2.) 10 Mar 2025 14:50:12
Is that an issue?
Carra was a blue and played for Liverpool.
Atletico have players signed from Real Madrid (like Marcos Llorente) .
Doesn’t stop them performing for you. They are PROFESSIONAL athletes, they’re not going to score an own goal because they supported united as a kid.
23 Feb 2025
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Liverpool Player Sightings page entitled, Stay humble, eh.
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1.) 23 Feb 2025 21:11:27
They are the opposite of humble. Saw their little 4 ina row dig. Someone needs to fly a banner saying 115.
2.) 23 Feb 2025 21:14:53
No wonder I didn't notice Marmoush on the pitch today. He was in the stands in front of Haaland this whole time.
3.) 23 Feb 2025 21:15:49
I mean I'm not a fan of haaland at all. but he told Arteta to stay humble, which is a pretty fair thing to tell the arrogant little man who has won fa.
4.) 23 Feb 2025 21:20:38
"Shankly" into "Klopp"
"Paisley" into "Slot"
Enjoy ye next nine years "HA"-"HA"- Land at the "EMPTY"had Stadium!
5.) 23 Feb 2025 21:37:00
Arteta has won fa.
The FA Cup.
6.) 23 Feb 2025 21:39:54
We are football royalty along with United, Arsenal, Everton and too be fair Leeds. They will never be us.
7.) 23 Feb 2025 22:13:31
No disrespect to Leeds, Endo, but why Leeds? What are you using as a barometer? Why not Forest, Derby? Just curious, that's all.
8.) 23 Feb 2025 22:53:38
RedScarface you mean 130?
@Bmena-red, they both need to stay humble, tbh.
9.) 23 Feb 2025 23:05:05
That's fair Oli.
10.) 24 Feb 2025 00:11:08
If you’re talking football royalty in England you can only really say Liverpool and Utd.
Others have had fleeting moments but Liverpool and Utd are the only two clubs that have had long periods of dominance both domestically and in Europe.
Chelsea and City are just plastic football clubs. They are both historic clubs but everyone knows they’d both have West Ham levels of success if they didn’t have the owner’s money behind them.
They are not even recognisable as the clubs they were before they became rich men’s play things.
On another note did anyone hear that Spurs sent an email to the broadcasters stating that they either want to be referred to as Spurs or Tottenham Hotspur and NOT Tottenham? They apparently want to distance themselves from any geographical area. Simply put, they want to trample all over the fans that have supported them for generations in the pursuit of money. What has football come to?
11.) 24 Feb 2025 02:15:32
Arsenal have never won the champions league, even in their pomp under wenger, and have won but one cup winners cup, hardly footballing royalty to be fair.
12.) 24 Feb 2025 08:51:14
PatrikBurgher, Arsenal have played as many CL finals as Spurs, Stade De Reims (in France), Malmo of Sweden, Club Brugge (lost to LFC), Sampdoria and well, you get the point. That's the company they keep.
As for their Cup Winner's Cup win, even Sampdoria have one of those and non one has ever accused them of being CL giants
An absolute non-entity in Europe.
14 Feb 2025 23:16:34
Just in case anyone missed it, if Oliver had done his job properly, Salah would've won us a game that we probably didn't deserve to win. And not for the first time this season either.
The club cannot let Salah leave on a free, and we as fans should be talking about him as one of the best players ever to play for Liverpool. He's up there with Kenny and Barnes. He takes great care of himself, and I fully expect he'll still be doing this when he's 35. If he wants £350k, £400k a week for 3 years? Give it to him. He's worth it.
1.) 15 Feb 2025 01:24:17
What's Oliver got to do with it, SR?
I understand that you fully expect that Salah will being having seasons like this when he's 35 but how many contracts have you signed paying someone that figure before?
You don't even know how much Salah wants or for how long or what he'll be like at 35.
It wasn't that long ago that fans were saying he'd lost his pace, he doesn't do anything in the second half of the season and there's the AFCON thing so we should sell him and use the money to rebuild.
I think he'll stay anyway. Just because another club can afford him doesn't mean that he will go there.
There's not may bigger teams than us and the ones that are won't be that interested at what it will cost them, imo.
2.) 15 Feb 2025 01:26:03
We’d have won it had we cleared the ball. But he absolutely needs a new contract. There’s have to be some higher ups leaving the club if they can’t get him to stay.
3.) 15 Feb 2025 02:29:06
Love Mo, want him to stay
But.
Just putting it out there. Is it fair to say many of his performances this season have been mid? Yes he pops up for an assist and scores a well taken goal. World class obviously.
This may go over some people’s heads lol
Why if the output dries up? He isn’t exactly lighting up every match with dazzling dribbles, tearing up defenses with 1-2s and defense splitting passes all game. He is scoring and assisting at a very high end. But what if that dries up?
Anyways, just making the same point I’ve made all season that it’s not as simple as just throwing money at him.
4.) 15 Feb 2025 02:51:33
There is no evidence over the past few years that his output will dry up. He is just lethal when he needs to be, and produces at a much higher level than wingers who spend the game getting past their man but producing nothing. He doesn’t even need to rely on his pace anymore (though he has shown that he clearly still has it), and he gets these numbers despite being double and triple teamed. A player whose performances have been ‘mid’ but who tops the scoring and assist charts in the best league in the world who loves the club and the fans, and you want us to spend money bringing in an unknown quantity instead?
5.) 15 Feb 2025 03:53:25
Completely agree SR. Up there with the very best for me as well mate.
6.) 15 Feb 2025 05:12:55
Faith - coming to your point
We get a replacement who can light up every match with dazzling dribbles, tears up defences with 1-2s and provides defence splitting passess.
How confident are you that all of it gurantee same output as Salah or better?
How confident are you that he will not get injured and stay fit?
There are no gurantees in life let alone in the game of football.
He has delivered and he should be on par or above Haaland in current day going rate.
For those who say this will break wage structure, whoever ask same pay as Salah, make it conditional by setting similar bar as Salah.
If the achieve, its win- win for all.
7.) 15 Feb 2025 07:44:35
Football is a very fickle and players and managers are all judged on the here and now. Not on what they can do in a few seasons time.
Trent is the youngest of the 3 but there’s no guarantee that he’s going to maintain his level or even improve and he could just as well decline from next season as it happens to players of all ages. It’s not an exact science.
All 3 could continue at this level for another couple of seasons as just is likely all 3 fall off the cliff ability wise.
Truth be told we’ll only ever know if the 3 stay.
If the 3 go it’s going to be extremely hard to replace them.
8.) 15 Feb 2025 08:47:27
What exactly is a drying up of Salahs output? Only getting twenty odd goals for the whole season from the wing as opposed to by New Year? Pay the man, supremely fit and impacts results not dribble stats. He's been loyal to the club, is still here while his two eternally loved pals have long rode off into the sunset to better things. He is going to have the best season EVER in a Premier League season, at no other big club would it even be a debate.
9.) 15 Feb 2025 10:58:26
Mo’s output is still top level, question is what’s key to those stats and how long can he maintain them for. He’s lost 2km of pace, which isn’t much but he’s gone from being top 10 in league to much lower, so his game now is speed of thought, quick feet, positioning rather than amazing running speed. He doesn’t get injured and is a very intelligent player, so those attributes should be good for a few years, he wants three our analysts are probably saying two hopefully compromise can be reached.
10.) 15 Feb 2025 11:57:01
@Faith
Antony is pretty good with Dazzling dribbles. Available for a cut price. want to try swap Salah with Antony?
11.) 15 Feb 2025 15:54:33
The nonsense spouted here. Casually allowing Salah to merely leave and making speculative statements like he may not do it in a couple of years blah blah. He’s doing it now and he’s better than anyone else. Pay him, the frauds at FSG that people on here seem to laud are embarrassing.
12.) 15 Feb 2025 21:36:01
Last year I thought he was finished.
He had a good summers rest and came back absolutely flying again.
But the game is catching up with him. The days of him playing 90+ minutes at full tilt for 60 games a season are over.
He needs his workload managed better, I think his demands should reflect this and his agent needs to get a reasonable deal done.
13.) 16 Feb 2025 22:44:05
Again lots of comparisons that don't actually address what I've said.
And to answer the stupid question - No I don't want Antony.
People are clamouring for Mo to be whatever for what seems to be whatever length of contract. And all I am saying is what if, next season or the one after when we're paying him to produce at the level he has been this season and for the last 6 year or so, his output doesn't match what he is being paid.
I agree that "it looks" like he could keep on producing this kind of output but it's not a guarantee.
My point about the dribbling etc was a bit hyperbole and I did suggest that it might go over people's heads, which it seemed to do. for instance, he was fairly anonymous again today. beaten to the ball a lot by the defender who I can't even recall what his name is. then he scored a penalty. it was an average performance, like it was vs Everton except for two brilliant moments of Mo magic.
If I put it simply, the gamble people seem more than willing to throw the house it as that Mo will continue to score and assist at this level for the next 2-3 seasons. amazing if he does and he would obviously earn the contract over those years. But if he doesn't, then we have a problem money-wise to deal with. That's all the question is. not a guarantee either way, and I've been pretty consistent about this all year that we don't have to dive into meeting all of Mo's demands.
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15 May 2025 20:33:32
As much as I like Irish lads playing for Liverpool, I'm not sure that'd be the best idea if it there's anything in it.
He's good on the ball, but makes mistakes with his positional play nearly every time he plays for Ireland. Now admittedly, having pure dirt like Matt Doherty play with him for Ireland doesn't help him, nearly any time I pay attention to Brentford, he seems to be making mistakes for them as well.
idk maybe that's a false impression I'm getting.
09 May 2025 18:40:35
Was disappointed with Leverkusen and Alonso when we played them this season. Was like watching a game against Mourinho in the latter portions of his Chelsea career.
05 May 2025 19:13:58
It really seems fanciful to me that in an organisation valued in the billions, nobody took control of Trent's contract situation early. I know there were changes at high level in the club, but could no one above that level say "oh hang on here, we need to get this sorted. " rather than seemingly just shrugging their shoulders and leaving it to the role that was nominally responsible? Even though there either wasn't someone in that role, or the person who was in it was on a short contract and not in a position to deal with it? Am I mad to think that? It feels like there was a certain element of complacency. "Ah sure, Trent is a local lad, we don't need to make him feel wanted. He won't leave on a free. "
Now maybe it wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference, but at least we could've said "well we did our best and he couldn't be persuaded. " rather than leaving it until only about 15 months until his deal was up to open negotiations.
Nonetheless, all that said, Liverpool FC is bigger than Trent Alexander-Arnold. We will continue on just fine without him. I hope he enjoys playing for a soulless husk of a football club.
05 May 2025 16:46:38
Gaga - There's no point in starting Trent if Bradley's fit enough to start all three games. I'd rather work on developing a player who will actually be here next season.
21 Apr 2025 20:33:13
Kaiser, I think it's established that I'm not Wally's biggest fan, but to be fair to him, I'm pretty sure he's NOT posting every lame, nonsense fake rumour going.
He actually posts very few.
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21 May 2025 20:46:57
Handball OG. How appropriate.
21 May 2025 20:28:42
Crap so far. Like an average League of Ireland game.
21 May 2025 14:09:44
If I thought for one second that Man U would spend the CL money intelligently I'd be worried. But it's Man U. Every big signing they've made in nearly 10 years has flopped. With the possible exception of Fernandes.
I still want Spurs to won cos it's hilarious for Man U to finish with nothing though.
19 May 2025 18:18:47
There's an article on BBC Sport about it. You can say a few things about the BBC, but jumping the gun on football rumours isn't something they're known for.
17 May 2025 21:52:18
Stop promising me a good time L29.