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26 Nov 2014 18:43:22
Team: Mignolet, Manquillo, Skrtel, Toure, Johnson, Lucas, Gerrard, Allen, Henderson, Sterling, Lambert

Be interesting to see how Gerrard and Lucas are deployed. I'm assuming it'll be a diamond with Gerrard at the tip and Lucas at the base, but I'm worried that it'll be both of them as DMs which didn't exactly work against West Ham.


 

 

 

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01 Jun 2019 21:49:36
Statue for Origi please.


1.) 01 Jun 2019 22:37:39
Make it in platinum please.


2.) 01 Jun 2019 23:22:23
Anyone ever says he should move on again, i will track them down and play rick astley "never going to give you up" to them for a week!

Fairclough no2.


 

 

08 May 2019
New image uploaded to the
Liverpool Player Sightings page entitled, When you realise your cheating didn't work


1.) 08 May 2019 14:44:09
Suarez did little more than audition for a role in the Royal Shakespeare Company. Seems that part of Barcas tactics were to get a Liverpool player sent off so Messi had another chance with a free kick. Chewy Luis was, of course, the main culprit. The image of Suarez with a face like a dropped pie has brightened my day immeasurably.


 

 

07 May 2019 23:36:22
A Brazilian man was reported missing at Anfield tonight. He's described as being his mid-20s, 5'8' tall', dark hair, athletic build and was last seen walking onto the pitch in a yellow shirt at approximately 8pm tonight.

If you have any information, please contact Mr. and Mrs. Coutinho as they are very worried about their son.


1.) 08 May 2019 00:23:19
I was thinking, imagine if Coutinho never left . he would have had a great view of that comeback from the bench.


2.) 08 May 2019 00:28:00
On a serious note can someone explain to me what has happened to Coutinho? He used to impact games, demand the ball now you honestly forget he is on the pitch, such a shame how poor he has become.

{Ed0333's Note - he’s clearly not as good as we all thought he was


3.) 08 May 2019 00:46:01
5'8"? In Cuban heels?
Yellow is appropriate, though.

{Ed0333's Note - Cuban heels 🤣


4.) 08 May 2019 01:19:41
😂🤣😊🤣🤣🤣

Classic!


5.) 08 May 2019 12:18:25
When we lost couts, we became a better TEAM. Last night we lost Salah and became a better team.


 

 

23 Mar 2019 15:57:44
Watching in the LFC Legends game, announcing the team for the 2nd half:

Glen Johnson: *Crowd Cheers*
Salif Diao: *Crowd Cheers*
Djibril Cisse: *Crowd Cheers*
Michael Owen: *Very muted and mixed reaction*.


1.) 23 Mar 2019 16:41:12
Gerrard late winner into The Kop end btw, for those interested.

Fowler and Cisse scored too.


2.) 23 Mar 2019 16:12:32
I'm surprised it was even muted to be honest. Not much love for him for the way he left and then who he signed for. Certainly not the most popular player to leave Lfc, up there with Hadji Diouf for me.


3.) 23 Mar 2019 17:32:30
Let's just hope we haven't missed our last opportunity to boo him!


4.) 23 Mar 2019 17:39:01
Hadji Diouf? . fair enough, Owens done some things wrong but to compare him with that scumbag Diouf is crazy! Shouldn't have joined Madrid the way he did but at least while he was here he was a class act on the field, he was the ballon d'or winner for Christ sake, must have been doing something right.


5.) 23 Mar 2019 17:41:08
For God's sake he was a professional plying his trade and he gave me
Some great moments.


6.) 23 Mar 2019 18:08:02
I’d rather focus on the great memories Owen gave me whilst he was a Liverpool player rather than the negatives surrounding his departure and subsequent career.


7.) 23 Mar 2019 19:56:41
Who's Owen again?


8.) 23 Mar 2019 20:51:54
Oh grow up for heavens sake. When I first started going to Anfield, all we ever sang was 'Michael Owen scores a goal, hallelujah'. He did a lot for our club. So what he left, and signed for utd. Paul Ince did the same and we cheered him. Xavier and Barmby came to us from Everton and we cheered them. Get over it for christ sake, the man is a Liverpool legend thus why he deserves to play in these legend matches. Always thought we were the best fans in the world till I saw some of the trolls on this site. Disgusting.


9.) 23 Mar 2019 21:19:15
Taking it too far to suggest booing him.


10.) 23 Mar 2019 21:54:14
Or we could focus on his bullying and exploitation of youth players? 😁.


11.) 23 Mar 2019 21:56:18
So when are Diao and Cisse classed as legends?


12.) 23 Mar 2019 22:15:52
Couldn't agree more Istanbul. He played very well for us but we couldn't win the league so he moved on. He wanted to come back but it never happened. So he went somewhere else. Is the hatred because he got a Premier league medal with utd?


13.) 24 Mar 2019 01:47:24
ye i rekon let the michael owen stuff go. was nice to see cisse someone posted asking who was the player we were most excited about and I forgot about him. definitely cissr.


14.) 24 Mar 2019 08:09:42
It's because he went to utd langland. Yes at the time it hurt, but let's put some perspective behind this (not having a pop at you by the way) . Don't know the ins and outs obviously, but at the time he probably had a choice of signing for as an example West ham or man utd. The lad wanted to win trophies and earn the most amount of money possible, I can fully understand why he chose utd to be honest. It seems to be a recurring theme where if a player leaves because he wasn't 'good enough' then he gets a pat on the back and is unlucky it never really worked out for him. On the other hand if a player leaves to 'better themselves' then they become the spawn of Satan. It's embarrassing and rather sickening to be honest. I do love the insight of this site, but some of the crap that gets spouted really does make me question why some people choose to 'support' Liverpool. Because they really don't support them at all.


15.) 24 Mar 2019 09:04:45
Cisse won the European Cup for us and he gave everything he had for us.
He might not be a class but show some respect.


16.) 24 Mar 2019 09:13:35
I think if you look at this thread and see the split between thumbs up and thumbs down, you'll see why his reception was muted. Very polarising player for many reasons.

For me, it's also his punditry, which is suspect at the best of times. Noone's mentioned that.

{Ed001's Note - I think people are getting it wrong about Owen. He is disrespected for a large number of reasons, and was disliked intensely by a lot of people (including myself) even before he left Liverpool. I am going to ignore the fact that he would miss matches seemingly of his choice and yet be perfectly fine wandering around and riding his horses etc, because, while it annoyed me at the time, there is no way of knowing if he was actually injured or not.

However, his attitude with youth teamers was a problem, he was given far too much power behind the scenes at the club (as were later Gerrard and Carragher) being involved in team selection and recruitment ffs, hence why Heskey was bought (no slight on him, just pointing out why he was brought in), and that led to him being a dick. The younger players would be bullied by him into playing high stakes card games in the hope that they would then have a shot at the first team. The kids couldn't afford the games on their wages, while he could.

And it was money that was his main motivator in everything, which was another thing that made him disliked. However the big issue was it was him who wanted rid of Fowler and sparked in motion the 'nosegate' affair because he hated playing alongside someone who was taking all the limelight. Fowler was 'God' to the fans and Owen was just a second best, almost afterthought, in their affections. Owen wanted it to be all about him and he would whine on and on to Ged until Ged engineered a reason to get rid of Fowler. That is enough for me to be unable to ever forgive him or Houllier.

After that, he forced his way out, despite Rafa pretty much begging him to stay for just one season and he would then let him go. Owen took no notice and forced the move on the club. Whatever he did after that mattered not a bit to me, as he was just good riddance of a bad apple imo.}


17.) 24 Mar 2019 09:52:04
Exploiting and bullying kids is bad enough for me Ed001. Everything else you listed is distasteful and arrogant, but what he did to the youth players is just too much for forgiveness.

To add fuel to your money orientated claim, I recently went to a Collectormania event to get a few photos and autographs. Barnes charged £10, Ruddock £10, Molby £10, Keegan £15, Fowler £15, and Owen £30. Owen probably earnt more money in his career than those other 5 managed combined and yet he still wanted 2-3 times as much.


18.) 24 Mar 2019 09:59:41
After that post ed, I imagine a few posters might be wondering why we don’t have a unthumbs up button. Never knew he wanted Fowler out of the club. Knew about the bullying of the young lads, total scumbag. Can I also add that Salif Diao was an incredible player and worthy of the term legend (in pro evo 5)

{Ed001's Note - there were little things that caused annoyance, like his refusal to wear a Liverpool shirt to training with the youth team, instead constantly wearing Everton kits. I just remember thinking if you love Everton that much, why did you turn them down to join us, only to constantly disrespect us? Arrogant, nasty little worm. Him and Ince are two players that I disliked as people from the moment I met them. They had no respect for others. Don't get me wrong, Owen has excellent manners and was very polite and well spoke, but he still had this belief that he was better than everyone else. It always felt like he was looking down his nose at everyone. And I mean everyone.}


19.) 24 Mar 2019 10:58:20
Makes you wonder what things might be going on at the club at this very moment. I’m hoping it’s all serenity, love and respect but that might just be hippy thinking.


20.) 24 Mar 2019 12:00:59
Look, all the reasons Ed001 gives are valid but I have great memories of Owen in the most important place. ON THE PITCH, and from 97-2004 he did a great job for us. A poster said it makes you wonder what's going on at the club now, does it? I couldn't be arsed wondering. for all we know fan favourites like VVD and Salah are the biggest c#@%'s on the planet but I couldn't care less while they keep doing the business on the pitch.


21.) 24 Mar 2019 13:55:52
Really interesting to hear some of that behind the scenes stuff ed01 thanks! Just out of curiousity is that from your personal contacts within the club or was it more public? Fowler certainly claimed to have no idea why he was being frozen and forced out in his book.

{Ed001's Note - that is from within the club, I have no idea how public it was or not, but I know that is what happened. I seen and heard Owen once myself having a whine, so I have no difficulty believing Ged folded because of the pressure. Fowler seemed to think it was Houllier who didn't rate him.}


22.) 24 Mar 2019 13:57:11
Little Naby, two things can be correct at the same time. Like you, I have brilliant memories of Owen ripping teams apart. That said, what he did off the pitch and to some extent on it as Ed01 alluded to, are darn right reprehensible, disgusting behavior and at that point, I don't care what he accomplished on the pitch anymore. This should matter to you and I am disappointed that it seemingly doesn't.

IMO, it is your principles and moral compass that make you who you are personally cos playing football is what you do, it is not what defines you as a living being. This is why Klopp does not sign "Headaches" regardless of how well "they are doing the business on the pitch". He focuses on the individual first and the player second. Why? He needs the player to biuy into what LFC wants on a human level first hence, why we have good-hearted players like Mane, Bobby, Salah, Hendo, Wiji, Lovren, TAA etc who are brilliant men off outside the pitch. A guy like Suarez would NEVER play under Klopp for these reasons.


23.) 24 Mar 2019 18:49:07
See me, I'm different I guess. I'd prefer to have an average player with respect for the club in general who has morals over a world class player who's an absolute piece of sh*t.

If I found out VVD, Allison, Salah etc (my favourite players I might add) were kno*heads then I'd want rid immediately, it doesn't matter how good a player is, the club comes first and the image of it. Or it should? I guess times have changed.

Owen was nothing but a *expletive*, I couldn't care less what he did on the pitch, that's irrelevant in my opinion.


24.) 24 Mar 2019 20:09:32
In any walk of life, in any profession. in a group of 22-25 people you are not going to get 22-25 sound lovely people. you are going to get a certain percentage of knobs. Football is no different, John Terry, Ramos. p#$&@s but players their clubs wouldn't have won the trophies they did without.


25.) 24 Mar 2019 21:26:09
It doesn't make it right LN and I can't think of one who's that bad currently at Liverpool?


 

 

27 Feb 2019 20:46:55
Salah and Alexander-Arnold have been unable so far today.

Mint.

{Ed002's Note - Unable to do what? Go to Waitrose during the game? Record a hit gangster rap 45 during the game? Slip across the road for a Singapore Sling (Robin Friday had no problems with this)? Conceive their first born with everybody watching?}


1.) 27 Feb 2019 20:52:08
I meant "unplayable".

Ooops.

{Ed002's Note - Cluedo?}


2.) 27 Feb 2019 20:59:58
Been drinking tonight Ed?

{Ed002's Note - Not enough clearly.}


3.) 28 Feb 2019 09:22:57
Probably nowhere near as much as Robin Friday would have been.

I'm sure he's on the list, but will we be getting a player profile for him?

An absolute legend (for all kinds of reasons) .


 

 

 

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16 May 2019 21:54:58
Don't worry lads, only 108 days to go until the European summer transfer window will be closed and we can stop speculating about done deals for our players.


 

 

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15 May 2019 19:46:21
A French Fat Kid from Bolton? Le gros enfant de Bordeaux, perhaps?

@ BobbyF - Lallana played very few games due to injury (and played well enough that I wouldn't be actively looking to show him the door) and Sturridge didn't play all that many more. Oxlade-Chamberlain and Brewster will be back fit, I think they'll pick up any slack from the departure of Lallana and Sturridge.


 

 

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20 Apr 2019 15:34:50
Ed002, you're a gentleman.


 

 

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21 Feb 2019 18:43:41
Kinda hard to judge a 17 year old unless they're ridiculously talented for their age and already playing senior footie at a decent level.


 

 

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11 Feb 2019 17:59:48
Worse still, the reports say the £400k is his basic salary. I assumed it included a MASSIVE signing on fee averaged out over the life on the contract, that he was able to negotiate because he was on a "free" transfer. I hope the reports are wrong in that regard.

Basically they've done the equivalent of paying a £40m transfer fee for Ramsey and then paying him £200k a week. I suppose it's not completely insane in the current market, but compare Ramsey to Fabinho and it doesn't really strike me as a great idea. And that's before they've paid his agent or any performance bonuses.


 

 

 

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18 Jun 2019 18:33:05
For some fun F1 japery and (potentially dangerous) escapades, google Andrea Moda Formula and Life Racing Engines, two of the most inept, poorly organised and generally farcical F1 teams to have ever existed.


 

 

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09 Jun 2019 11:32:22
It can be done. But there a couple of issues that need to be overcome:

For it to work, we have to get someone who's basically speaking, as good as the three we have. Some potential targets might think: "hang on, Salah, Mane and Firmino are already there. Will I really be given a shot at nailing down a first team place in my preferred position? Or will I be in one game and out the next and not be given a good run of consecutive starts unless one of them is unavailable? ". So that makes it harder to get a player with both the right ability and right attitude.

But let's say despite that, we get the right player, and for a while it goes fine. But then we have a Champions League knockout against Juve or crucial league match against Man City where we're going to play our strongest XI with no exceptions, and all 4 are fully fit and available. Who drops out?

tl;dr over the season, there's a good chance one of the four will probably feel like he's backup.

Good players will want to start pretty much every game they're fit for (particularly in the PL and CL), not 2/ 3rds or 3/ 4s of them. Look at Sane at Man City - 29 starts and 14 sub apps between the league and Champions League. That's a fair bit of rotation into the team, and the sort of game time our fourth man might end up getting, but he's reportedly unhappy.

I don't have a simple solution to this, btw, having quality backup / rotation options without also having unhappy £60m subs is a "fun" one for Klopp to sort out. There'll have to be some flexibility from any attacking player we sign, unless one of the front three leaves.

Should also say, Shaq and Origi delivered when needed at points this season, so we're not entirely devoid of quality outside the first XI.


 

 

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08 Jun 2019 15:37:24
Hasn't Vorm struggled with injuries in the past while and dropped behind Gazzaniga? Not sure about him myself.


 

 

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08 Jun 2019 15:30:05
We're selling every attacking player at the club and bringing in Pepe, Werner, Dybala, Coutinho and Brandt.

{Ed002's Note - Plus most of the Lyon side.}


 

 

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02 Jun 2019 22:26:58
I found the original quotes in the Portuguese press where Fernandes talks about both Liverpool an Man City. After talking about City's style of play, he's quoted as saying:

"Gosto muito do Liverpool também" before talking about us for a bit.

The Daily Star appear to have translated that as stating he prefers Liverpool to Man City. Google translates it more neutrally, as "I like Liverpool a lot too". Anyone here speak Portuguese and can advise?

I wouldn't read a lot into it anyway.

{Ed002's Note - But what was the question he was asked?}