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18 Sep 2020 20:40:14
Delighted with Thiago and the apparently imminent arrival of Jota, but where's the money coming from?

Are confident enough of offloading Grujic, Wilson, Karius, maybe Origi or Wijnaldum that we're pressing ahead knowing we'll ultimately break even (ish) . Or are we borrowing?

Or is this a bad question that'll give an Ed a headache?

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1.) 18 Sep 2020 23:11:22
Why are you trying to kill the buzz mate? We’ve won everything in last couple of years playing great football. Why does money concern you? there are better people at the club than us to take care of that. Enjoy the ride or you will miss it.


2.) 18 Sep 2020 23:11:24
Trust Edwards and fsg. They know what they’re doing.


3.) 19 Sep 2020 01:24:32
It is called Creative Accountancy from Fenway.


4.) 19 Sep 2020 01:24:49
This has me worries that some "shock" deal will come out of this, and Mane's leaving.


5.) 19 Sep 2020 02:45:00
How can you be concerned with money?
Win the Champions league - spend nothing
Win the league - spend less than the competitors.
Liverpool have access to the cash to buy whoever they want without coming anywhere close to distress.
Also, who cares if they borrow? Every business borrows money to better itself. (LFC has always been a business btw)

{Ed0666's Note - I’m not sure we have the money to buy whoever without stress at all Mr Risdale.


6.) 19 Sep 2020 02:57:01
People need to be clearer on terms of how transfers are agreed before questioning financial sense. Thiago will only cost us 5mil this year and 5mil each of following 3 summer. Jota is not signing on the condition we pay a big lump now. he's going to be on a 5 year contract and because Liverpool are strong now clubs will be easier to agree to future bonuses or add ons. We see our players winning individual awards, top of goal scoring lists, club titles looking more common so those add on payments are easier to negotiate. Apparently we only more than 20 mil for thiago if he wins either league, CL or ballon d'or in his contract length so jota likely to have clauses as no chance we pay any big money this year. We will sell players which is obvious but it was silly to think we had to wait to get a certain amount which was then allowing us to spend instantly. For example it was possible that coutinho winning the European cup at any stage during his Barcelona contract length meant we would receive a lump of payment that was not guaranteed in the figure that was publically named as total cost. The likes of Danny ings having such a strong season and reaching accolades etc may be reasons behind us getting earlier than expected income. Jota will likely be balanced in our books with the likes of Wilson, shaqiri, origi or Brewster now seemingly on the market. With 2 or even 3 not being needed they will easily pay the jota cost and more. Hoever brings in 10mil as does lovren so 20 mil at least income for rarely needed defenders.

It's not so simple as thinking we can't deal with transfers until the minute we officially anounce a sale and just get that price immediately in the bank to spend. We've obviously been planning on thiago and jota for a period of time with realistic prediction of what players will leave and earn us so financial impact will never be a wishful gamble. We moan and get frustration but we never have any clue to what is happening within so always presume that activity in the public eye represents the activity in real life. Why would we actually operate under that strategy openly? Every other club would get negotiation strenght if that was so obvious. Bayern would be able to be stubborn if knowing that thiago was wanted only after gini for example left and we were in need for his replacement. If we tried to immediately offer decent money for a CB after lovren left clubs could have held out for more. It's smart business that we have prioritised the areas we weren't yet desperate to fill. I expect we now focus on shipping out the weaker players who thiago and jota will take upgrade while adding another defender at some point when the price best suits us instead oflooking forced to replace our defensive outgoings.

{Ed0666's Note - you took my advice well done sir and Thankyou.


7.) 19 Sep 2020 05:57:40
OmG har has used paragraphs, well done sir 😄.


8.) 19 Sep 2020 07:53:57
That grammarly software is good, isn't it? 😂.


9.) 19 Sep 2020 07:54:47
Christos, obviously haven’t frequented the page much recently. Ed002 has repeatedly explained that we had pre spent much of our tournament winnings. I am a little concerned with where this money is coming from but I am also not Liverpool’s accountant, wish I was. Any recruiters lurking I’m fully qualified, come get me ;) . Either way, I trust the club to be doing the right thing and I imagine we are confident in sales of out of favour players rather than Mane.


10.) 20 Sep 2020 00:23:11
Cotsi, it isn't possible to pre-spend money. Businesses invest according to their anticipated cashflow. ED002 is wrong.
The windfalls from winning the CL and EPL might lower the debt % but the winnings certainly weren't "prespent" as that isn't how any of this works.


 

 

13 Dec 2019 18:10:37
It gets better: Milner signs a new deal.

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1.) 13 Dec 2019 18:32:25
That's more good news.


2.) 13 Dec 2019 18:54:40
Perfect. Milner more than deserves it.


3.) 13 Dec 2019 19:00:31
What next today eh, even more good news coming out of the club!


4.) 13 Dec 2019 19:45:28
Kylian Mbappé to sign in January!


5.) 13 Dec 2019 19:52:42
Really pleased Milner has done that. He embodies everything Liverpool has become. One of our best.


6.) 14 Dec 2019 04:02:28
Does he get 10 ribenas as goal bonus now?


7.) 14 Dec 2019 10:02:47
Am I mistaken or he told he is not drinking anymore Ribena? 😅.


8.) 14 Dec 2019 10:36:46
This is excellent news very happy. Hopefully the younger talent can lean from a true professional of the game.


 

 

26 Nov 2014 18:43:22
Team: Mignolet, Manquillo, Skrtel, Toure, Johnson, Lucas, Gerrard, Allen, Henderson, Sterling, Lambert

Be interesting to see how Gerrard and Lucas are deployed. I'm assuming it'll be a diamond with Gerrard at the tip and Lucas at the base, but I'm worried that it'll be both of them as DMs which didn't exactly work against West Ham.

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17 May 2022 22:01:04
Minamino: Forgotten man. Comes in and scores.

Bobby: Not started for six weeks, been injured for half of that time. Needed a few touches to get his eye in, but once he did, he was brilliant.

Elliot and Jones: Didn't set the world on fire, but tbf they didn't really let us down either if you think about it, did they? No one breezed past them for a chance, they didn't constantly turn the ball over, they didn't give away stupid fouls. I'll take that on a night like tonight from inexperienced players who've not been involved a lot recently.

It doesn't feel like THAT long long ago when Salah went down injured in a CL final and our only options were a barely fit Lallana and Dominic Solanke. Bit different now, isn't it?

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1.) 17 May 2022 22:21:37
It was a good performance by a team that doesn't play together that often. Tonight was about getting a result and we did that without Southampton barely laying a glove.

On to Sunday. Anything can happen in a one off game. I'm all in until until something tells me otherwise. We have given ourselves a squeak of a chance, a lot more than we had in January.


2.) 18 May 2022 00:48:09
@TIR, spot on - to get where we have in the PL given the gap at the start of the year is incredible. The (alleged) best PL team ever were 14 points clear and getting ready to win the CL.

Now they are one point ahead and will be watching us on the telly when we play in the CL. Hell of a ride.


3.) 17 May 2022 22:48:55
I'm really excited with how that lineup performed. I was worried when I saw the lineup itself, but am very happy with the result.

Winning this weekend is all we can do. Let's hope Villa gives us some help.


4.) 18 May 2022 06:50:05
Its time for us fans to wear our heart on our sleeve. Forget about logic and the chances of us winning. It might only last 10 minutes on Sunday and City might be 2-0 up or cruising 4-0 at HT but until then believe. Even if we don't do it at least we will have shown an emotion, much better than the negative fans with the fear of losing so they don't get upset or annoyed just so they can say "I told you so" when its over. let's enjoy it, a great team and manager. This will not last forever.


5.) 18 May 2022 09:37:00
Spot on, boys. Bobbie was brilliant. Form is Temporary. Class is permanent" comes to mind here. Mino? The guy is mint. 10 goals in 24 games as 6th/ 7th choice striker/ forward? No team can boast of such a player with brilliant ability and great mentality and selflessness.

As for City, I bet you if Villa are up by 1 goal on 70 mins, they start bricking it.


 

 

04 May 2022 22:41:03
Gonna see at the weekend what Pep and City are really made out of.

Glad it'll be Real. Not because of any belief that Real will be easier (it's a CL final, and they beat City, so that surely implies they're a harder game? ) but because, as a fan, I'm just not interested in watching us play City again this season. 3 times is enough, thanks.

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1.) 04 May 2022 22:51:50
Shattered and disheartened. If there's a chance of points being dropped this is it. Shame they haven't been given the early kick off like we did.


 

 

14 Mar 2022 21:56:19
Oh no! The invincible Man City have dropped more points.

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1.) 14 Mar 2022 22:26:39
SR, who knew, right? The pundits kept saying they couldn’t see where City would drop points whereas they’ve been dropping points for the last 8 games.


 

 

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10 Nov 2021 16:49:53
Michael Edwards' departure at the end of the season confirmed. Best of luck to him and here's hoping Julian Ward gets on well as his replacement.

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1.) 10 Nov 2021 17:36:38
Might pull a big one out the bag before he goes lol.


2.) 10 Nov 2021 18:09:33
Michael Edwards did a more than awesome job for this club and great credit goes to Klopp for allowing him to do his job and letting him have a say in who we sign. They seem to have been quite a great team along with the other members of the scouting team. All the best to him in his future engagements.


3.) 10 Nov 2021 19:42:31
Heard it here months ago. love this site.


4.) 10 Nov 2021 19:47:29
Absolutely lad's he did a fantastic job for us and if by chance he happens to end up at another football team I'll bear no grunge to the man YNWA.


5.) 10 Nov 2021 20:03:02
They were reporting it everywhere months ago RedScarface.


6.) 10 Nov 2021 20:10:26
In fairness he’s probably been on gardening leave the last 6 transfer windows. All the best to him though. Rumour mill is he could be heading Newcastle.


7.) 10 Nov 2021 23:43:56
A lot of talk of Edwards buying but his selling was his ultimate skill, 19m for Solanke.


8.) 11 Nov 2021 07:52:02
13 goals in 17 games and sitting top of the Chamionship at 24 years old with his best days to come.


9.) 11 Nov 2021 08:43:40
I think Edwards next job will be a lot bigger than Newcastle…I think he’s set his sights abroad.


10.) 11 Nov 2021 16:20:45
I also don’t think there’ll be any final rabbits out the hat. Firstly, he’ll be on some form of gardening leave towards the end of his contract as the club won’t want him knowing their plans going forward, secondly, and notwithstanding the first pound, there’s no money.


 

 

 

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23 Jun 2022 19:36:30
"Rabiot will, like every other player, be offered to Newcastle"

Classic.

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23 Jun 2022 09:02:46
Tbf grino, it looked kinda smart arsed to me. Maybe you didn't intend it that way but in context I can understand Ed2's reaction.

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20 Jun 2022 18:58:44
Ledley King was NOT made of glass?

Are you sure about that 25?

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16 Jun 2022 23:28:08
Hendo played more minutes than any other midfielder we have this season. Just a reminder, since some seem to be pigeon holing him as needing constant rotation and subbing or his legs will fall off.

And for those constantly on about how Klopp is picking Keita therefore he must be good (I'll leave aside that this logic applied universally means there's no point in us discussing anything on here. Since we're all amateurs with no right to judge Klopp and must assume him to be infallible at all times, what's there to talk about? ), the same Klopp was saying we haven't seen the "real" Naby Keita yet as recently as the last couple of months of the season. So he clearly thinks Naby still has work to do.

Wonder how long it'll be until we do see this real Naby Keita? Another 4 years maybe?

Or maybe the real Naby Keita has been here all the time. Maybe it's the bloke who thinks he can spend most of a match strolling around the place (don't tell me to "watch the games" please. I only missed about 3 last season and I know what I saw) just because he got his big move to Liverpool? The guy's clearly quite talented, but anyone who thinks he's using even a tenth of it on a regular basis should consider consulting their optician.

And for all the rumours of a new deal, he hasn't actually got one yet has he? Van Dijk got one. Hendo got one. Alexander-Arnold got one. The club discussed one with Salah's reps, seemingly at length, although he hasn't accepted it. But Keita's just been left hanging so far. Strange if he's apparently so good and Klopp loves him.

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12 Jun 2022 16:33:26
Redrebel mate, Andy cost us a reported £8m. You can easily double check these things before you post.

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27 Jun 2022 23:03:03
Including Davies, Phillips and both Williamses, and discounting Minamino, who hasn't officially left yet but will, I actually count 27 over age players. Plus Carvalho and Elliot who are U21 and don't need to be registered as part of the 25 for the Premier League.

However, I'm fairly sure Carvalho does need to be registered as part of the 25 senior players for the CL even though he's under 21. The CL registry has an additional requirement that the player has to have been at the club for 2 years to count as an under 21 player which Carvalho doesn't meet.

Even if all of the players I listed in the first paragraph depart, club trained players remains something of an issue for the Champions League squad. We have only three club trained players (Trent, Jones and Kelleher) who, imo, are likely to be involved in the first team squad, and we're supposed to have 4. The only over 21 players we can register in the fourth club trained slot slot are Rhys or Neco Williams, and the latter is presumably going to leave, if not both of them. Otherwise the slot is left empty. Then obviously four more players need to be Home Grown players, but without having to be club trained. Those will presumably be Henderson, Gomez, Milner plus one other, likely Ox unless we sell him. Elliot I don't think requires registry for the CL as he's in his 4th season here and is still Under 21.

That leaves us with 17 slots for the other players, and that has to include Carvalho. Excluding the 4 players I mentioned at the start of the post who are presumably surplus to requirements, we have 16 "foreign" players plus Carvalho (assuming I counted correctly), so we can register everyone we need. But if we want anyone else, we have to sell to make room. And if the player we sell is Ox, his replacement has to be Home Grown.

Long post. Sorry.

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26 Jun 2022 13:12:51
You'd be as well to suggest we get a time machine and get 1988 vintage John Barnes to replace Salah.

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25 Jun 2022 15:21:16
If you want to see will people bite onto such an obvious flawed idea, maybe don't call yourself 'ujokin'?

Just an thought.

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23 Jun 2022 21:57:54
Criticism of FSG for stuff like the Super League and the proposed furlough of staff is perfectly valid.

As for how much money they've pumped into the club and generally run the football end of things, they've done at least alright imo.

Let's not forget when they took over we had a squad with players like Jovanovic, N'Gog, Joe Cole (good player but unfortunately on the downswing due to injuries), Poulsen, Johnson etc. in it. We've come a long way from there, despite having to nearly start again after the Rodgers era, and you have to give FSG credit for that.

Do I sometimes want to play fantasy football in my head and see them spend a million billion on players? And have them just chuck the £400k a week at Salah so our best player remains and I can just pretend not to think about how disgusting money in football is? Sure. But that's not a sustainable way to run a football club.

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23 Jun 2022 09:38:25
Not out of the question. He was good in terms of goals and assists to minutes played last season so he could do well if he stays fit.

Biggest issue is Nunez will presumably be first choice through the middle, so where his chance is going to come from.

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