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17 Oct 2020 08:01:10
So the transfer window shuts completely now, feel sorry for the likes of Phillips and Millar, they have no chance at Liverpool so why are we not letting them go to build a career elsewhere? Now they will spend their time in the U23’s till January what a waste.

The Southern Red

{Ed002's Note - They were unfortunately priced out of moves. Liverpool were desparate to sell players to raise funds but found, like other clubs, the money is not out there - and it won't be out there nexy summer either.}


1.) 17 Oct 2020 10:34:13
Obviously we are looking to cash in on players to help offset out incomings, but would we not potentially see young players sold for a cheap total but a higher sell on clause?

{Ed002's Note - Sell on clauses are still reasonably rare in England. Buyers really don't have the money - clubs like LIverpool and Arsenal have purchased players by gambling future income. At the lower-level they cannot even do that and the loan system works well for them. You won't see a return to the norm anytime soon I am afraid.}


2.) 17 Oct 2020 11:39:13
A little bit of something is better than a lot of nothing!

Shame they both seem to be model professionals, and just kept their head down.


3.) 17 Oct 2020 11:50:34
So we foresee a time of tapering down of salaries and player transfer prices, Ed002? Just the EPL or throughout the continent?

{Ed002's Note - Across Europe some high-profile clubs are asking players to take reduced salaries until the finances return to more of a norm - but I suspect that will be at least two or three years away as things stand right now. Again, across Europe, lower-tier teams will need the support of higher-tier teams and the players to survive. In England League One and League Two have agreed to have squad salary caps which is similar to how other leagues in Europe operate. Transfer fees will remain very high for the elite and up and coming players and clubs are already discussing how they will be able to complete their transfers for next summer. Real Madrid, for example, have four or five firm targets for next summer which will be expensive - so they will need to continue what they have done this year and sell or exchange players. Loans will continue at a higher level than they have done so before. Rules will also change to encourage clubs to make better use of their academy systems.}


4.) 17 Oct 2020 14:56:06
We need Phillips now.


 

 

08 Oct 2020 11:09:54
Just seen Wilson was omitted from the champions league squad but elliot was included.

Seems an odd move from them after not letting him leave, also how come elliot has been registered with the A squad given he is under 21?

The Southern Red

{Ed002's Note - Because Liverpool cannot enter a full A squad.}


1.) 08 Oct 2020 17:01:00
As far as I know, an U21 can only be in the B squad for Europe if he's been at the club for 2 years or more, hence why we had to register Elliot in the A squad who we bought last year, but not Williams or Jones who've been here since they were kids.

I'm surprised we had room to register Elliot though.

With no Wilson, our senior club trained players in the A list are just Kelleher and Alexander-Arnold. Doesn't that mean we have to leave 2 slots empty and only name a 23 man squad? But we seem to have named 24. Or am I missing something?


2.) 08 Oct 2020 17:04:07
I really hope Watford or Bournemouth make an offer for Wilson. We need to still recoup a big portion of the money we spent this transfer window otherwise we will end up having to do too much in the next two windows in terms of selling fringe players.
Alos, its time Wilson found a home and move on with his career.

{Ed025's Note - whats up IB dont you like watford or bournemouth?, you must really hate them to want to saddle one of them fine clubs with wilson mate, his skill set comes right out of the carlton palmer how to play better football maual.. :)


3.) 08 Oct 2020 18:37:13
Thanks Ed, I knew there was a reason but wasn’t sure what it was.

Still a few weeks of the window open for the lower leagues. Although as Wilson I’d feel like I’d prefer to of gone elsewhere or maybe stay and fight.

{Ed002's Note - Klopp wants him gone completely.}


4.) 09 Oct 2020 09:38:48
fair enough ed, I always have a soft spot for players coming through the ranks so want them to succeed!

was the burnley interest concrete and is there any interest in him now.

{Ed002's Note - Burnley were keen but did not want to pay the asking price. I suspect a loan to the Championship is on the cards.}


5.) 09 Oct 2020 13:00:06
Ed02, I read the asking price was £15m if that’s true I don’t think we priced him out of a move. Not sure how accurate that is but is that right or were we asking for more? I think £15m for wilson who’s proven himself in both the championship and premiership is a bad price.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool asked Burnley for £20M and they offered £12M.}


6.) 09 Oct 2020 20:59:35
Settle for £12 mill in the circumstances.


7.) 10 Oct 2020 07:26:00
@steviep I agree it would have been best for both club and player if he left but settle for £12M nope. He's worth more than that and if we took all those offers we wouldn't be where we are. We wouldn't have gotten the money we got for the likes of Ibe, Solanke and Brewster if we accepted the likes of £12M for Wilson. Clubs would never again pay near what we actually want if we accepted those low ball bids.

{Ed025's Note - but sean you cant charge top dollar for mediocrity mate, hes just not very good except for dead ball situations, you have already ripped teams off with the likes of jordan ibe etc and teams are getting wise, liverpool are like JML who produce things that people buy but never really use, take the £12m and run for the hills..


8.) 10 Oct 2020 08:10:13
@Ed025 you have been very clear how poor you think Harry Wilson is. That's fair enough. I don't think he is good enough for Liverpool but I do think he is good enough for the Premier League and could add some quality to a bottom half club. Dead balls are superb, good passing range, gets in to the box and scores goals and has proven this in the championship and the premier league. I believe that merits a value a lot higher than £12M. We can agree to disagree on this. (And I do see his flaws like especially him going missing for ages during games but his positives are still there and are worth money) .

Ibe looked exciting, made an impact from the bench mostly and he did look a good prospect. I thought £16M was too good to turn down but I was sad to see him go as he had looked good for us. Hindsight obviously £16M looks hilarious but it wasn't totally outrageous.

Brewster, there's enough promise shown to again say it looks too good to turn down but Sheff Utd haven't agreed an outrageous deal.

Solanke. he has just starting scoring goals but wow I could not believe that offer. I really thought he looked miles off being ready for premier league and £20M or whatever it was, that was outrageous.

{Ed025's Note - i think your pretty fair there sean, except i think you may have over egged harry a bit, the money you have obtained for your lesser lights is impressive i have to say, but in these times of austerity when clubs are having to tighten their belts the money you are asking for wilson is a bit off the scale imo mate..


9.) 10 Oct 2020 08:52:03
We need the likes of Brewster to do well for our selling reputation. There aren't many have left and done as well as Ings. I know Coady has been mentioned in another post but that's years and years on. Ings has done the business straight away and everyone will agree Southampton have gotten a good deal there. Unfortunately a lot of our bigger sales the clubs would probably love a refund!

We can agree to disagree on Wilson's value and even though I think he's worth closer to £20M I do agree with you under the circumstances the price should have been reduced. I wouldn't have accepted below £15M though on the basis of my previous point of not wanting to be seen to accept what I feel would be a low ball bid. All about opinions anyway 👍.


10.) 12 Oct 2020 08:32:37
Putting a value on a players worth is only made clear by how important an interested club rates him to improve the team. His fee if compared to the likes of benrahma, eze, Dan James, Jarrod Bowen for example of players who performed well for a championship season and earned a fee no less than what Harry Wilson should be priced at, he had 2 good championship spells and a season of PL experience. Still young, HG and would have clubs interested so if we ask for 20mil or around that ball park I don't see that as ludicrous. Burnley were strong and held their ground by rejecting tarkowski offers over 30mil so I'm sure they accept that if they could only offer 60% of the asking price we set for Wilson then that's far too low for us just to accept. That extra 8mil we think we can get for him at some point pays for the transfer of minamino.


 

 

26 Jul 2020 22:49:10
Is there any interest in origi? I know Klopp sees him as a useful option but more often than not he is not doing enough on the pitch .

I would prefer to let him go and give Brewster a chance.

The Southern Red

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of interest but finding a taker at a reasonable price would not be difficult. As for not doing enough, players improve with a run of games which takes pressure off.}


1.) 27 Jul 2020 00:01:54
I think Origi has done fine in his role. I mean not every striker can be like Ole or Teddy and bang in goals coming off the bench lol.

He gets a lot of stick but seems like a player who is well liked in squad and has obviously contributed to our success over the last 2 seasons. Finding guys who are content with a bench role AND do what he has been able to do over the last two seasons aren't easy to find. we should be a bit careful what we wish for there.

Also imp Brewster needs to play. I would hate to see him come to our bench and play a handful of minutes here and there.


2.) 27 Jul 2020 02:05:05
Everything i've heard is that he works hard and he clearly is trying to do what klopp wants to help the team.


3.) 27 Jul 2020 07:51:42
With whatever money we'd get from an Origi sale, where do people think we'd find another forward who doesn't complain about sitting on the bench but can still get it up to play a critical part in crucial matches like the CL semis and final, the derbies against Everton, the late winner that kept us in the title race against Newcastle last season, the comeback against Dortmund etc?


4.) 27 Jul 2020 07:58:27
I am sorry but he is bang average. Firmino had his worst season in a red shirt and he couldn’t get a sniff at him. He is never going to push anyone of the front three. I can’t believe at his age he isn’t even pushing for minutes when half of the world wants guarantees.
Working hard and having an impact are two different things. There is a reason why are fringe players are not wanted like Chelsea’s. Simply not good enough. Chelsea”s fourth attacker is Christian pulisic and that’s the difference.


5.) 27 Jul 2020 08:18:43
When you say what other option could we get in if we let him go, I was inferring Brewster.

Given he’s more than shown his capabilities at a team which struggle to create chances. If he could get a similar amount of game time as origi next season i think he could offer more short term and long term.


6.) 27 Jul 2020 08:21:21
You mean the 33 point difference between us and Chelsea.


7.) 27 Jul 2020 08:29:12
Hollywood Hogan - Origi would need more than goals to get in ahead of Firmino.
Not sure where you are going with the Pulisic comparison. they finished 33 points behind us.


8.) 27 Jul 2020 09:18:50
Werner was the man to replace Div, yet clearly absolute priorities lie elsewhere. Im hoping that we find a talented young player who is willing to push the front 3 hard and allow himself to develop under the greatest management team on the planet.


9.) 27 Jul 2020 11:47:29
Div is not consistent. His was here before front 3 and still he cannot command a place. either we find a suitable replacement or give youngster a chance but his just not good enough.


10.) 27 Jul 2020 12:43:20
Decelticon, that is not true. The front three where constituted in the 17/ 18 season, the same season Origi was away at Wolfsburg on loan. Just facts, bro.

Secondly, how do you expect a player who rarely gets a run of games to be consistent esp. if he is behind the best front three on the planet? You don't get better by not playing and even when Origi ripped Everton a new one, he went back to the bench the very next game. Is that his fault as well?

Here's an example: Paco Alcacer was a beast at Valencia, scoring goals for fun. He went to Barcelona and rotted on the bench for two years or so, behind Suarez, Messi and Neymar. Finally found his scoring touch at Dortmund last season and now at Villareal scoring a fair share. It is not easy for him and clearly he is happy with his role and so is Klopp and you may disagree with that and want him sold BUT judgment is a bit harsh on him under the circumstances, IMO.


11.) 27 Jul 2020 14:41:43
Origi, when taking over from any of the front 3, seldom impress. Maybe me does need a run of games, but he is not going to get it at LFC.
Only way is if 1 of our front 3 get injured say for a month (6games or so) . Would you really be confident that Origi is now your starter?
I know my answer.
Minus that performance against Everton, he has not really impressed.
Mason Greenwood was not a tarter and burst through all right. Origin has failed to do so for 3-4 Seasons now.
I say let him go.
I do rather have Brewster, although I had been hoping for Werner.


 

 

15 Jul 2020 19:40:49
Not that I usually listen to sky sports but they’ve mentioned that Larouci is looking to leave in search of first team football

is there any truth in this?

The Southern Red

{Ed002's Note - Sorry I don't know.}


1.) 15 Jul 2020 22:30:13
It would be hard to fault him if he decides that considering our left flank of Robertson and mane could make him feel that it's highly probable he won't play regular football for at least next 2 or 3 seasons and realistically even longer as klopp will surely add more established left sided players in that period as origi, Milner and lallana often used on the left side of the pitch will need replacing so laroucci will expect to face competition from whoever is added along with robbo and mane who are at peak right now.

I hope klopp sees enough to back him to go on loan with an eye to being in our future plans but I sense that he's not convinced entirely in larrouci to step up and will prefer to sign a player in his position instead. The feeling regarding neco, Curtis Jones, Elliott and Brewster is that klopp would love to eventually integrate them but larrouci seems a step away from that sort of belief I sense.


2.) 16 Jul 2020 13:27:04
He should run as far as possible
I think by now it’s clear he won’t get a chance
Or management don’t think he is good enough
So let him go
Simple

And while they are at it . throw matip lovren and origii out the door too.


3.) 16 Jul 2020 13:29:25
Ed002 it looks like Larouci has asked to leave and is in the final year of his contract. Adam Lewis has also asked to go on loan, I can't see us not signing a young left back unless Klopp thinks Milner is set to be back up again or Gallacher is deemed ready.

{Ed002's Note - Yasser Larouci (LWB) Reims look to now be losing Hassane Kamara and they are starting to look for options and that includes Larouci. Brentford are expecting to lose Benrahma and want a left-sided player capable of covering the LWB and LW positions - and Larouci is a LW who has been converted to LB - and their interest is no secret. As many youngsters are doing, Larouci wants opportunities in the first team and Liverpool cannot offer that, and given a little something else going on, he may well look to options.

Klopp has not used Larouci or Lewis and has relied on Milner, Gomez etc. for cover.}


4.) 16 Jul 2020 13:57:46
Wow redrebel. those players have been part of a squad that won us the first title in 30yrs! Maybe they will leave, but how you can talk about ‘throwing players out the door’ like that? What happened to YNWA?

As for Larouci, if he’s ready then I think Robbo could do with a backup to give him a break sometimes, much like Nico will hopefully support Trent. If he’s not ready for that then a loan would be ideal.


5.) 16 Jul 2020 15:07:35
ed002 I thought Larouci was unlucky to pick up the injury last pre season as he was looking good. I think he played a few cup games last season and at 19 I don't think he is ready for premier league football yet from what I have seen of him. Am sure if he stays he will get game time in the cup games next season and like Neco Williams and Curtis Jones did this season he would just need to stand out to prove himself. Now you can see they are going to part of the squad next season. I think to manty of the young players now seem to think they deserve first team football without earning it.

{Ed002's Note - I agree with you and whilst he will have options, I don't know if he has actually asked to leave - which was the original question.}


6.) 16 Jul 2020 16:24:30
When the player in front of you is as consistent and as good as Robertson is, you can hardly blame him for considering his career options as he’s now at the stage where he needs to be getting experience in competitive matches and it would be in fair to him to not let him get that chance.


7.) 16 Jul 2020 16:33:53
If he is not good enuff or if he thinks he won't get a chance then it is only normal that he would want to leave. What does the ¨throwing players out the door¨ schtick have to do with anything?


8.) 16 Jul 2020 17:47:39
From what I remember from seeing him during the last pre-season it was the defensive side of his game that was weak. He was good going forward, could cross and even cut in and go towards goal. Given that he used to be a winger it is not suprising at all. But if his defensive game has not grown then perhaps he should have a sniff elsewhere and see if there are other better options for him? Maybe he doesn't want to play left back?


9.) 16 Jul 2020 18:10:57
I think his 19 and should wait a year he will be given game time in cups next season he might not even get that if he moves. We are not talking about one of the best talents in the game and there is nobody of a young age at the club better than him so I think it’s a silly move if he has asked to leave. The young Lad that plays right back at Brighton looks a player and I understand him wanting a move because Chelsea have a world class Prospect in his position at the club of around the same age and and a top class international there 2 but we have one player there and that’s it. For me though I do think klopp should have given him some game time after the league was won to see what he could do at the level.


10.) 16 Jul 2020 23:43:07
Young lads are going to want to play football and the reality of breaking into this first team even for a handful of games is low. I like the idea he backs himself and if he goes about his business of leaving in a professional manner unlike that w@nker Bobby Duncan then it will be fine. Game time at a competitive level is a lot better than the U23's for development. Good Luck to him and hope he does well.


11.) 18 Jul 2020 18:24:54
@grino75. I completely agree, and wouldn't be surprised if Tariq Lamptey turns out to be a better player than Reece James in the end.

It was definitely the right decision for him to move on. Larouci, I don't think it's wise to move on yet. We've played Milner or Gomez as cover this season, but you don't know if he'd get the chance next season.


12.) 19 Jul 2020 02:32:03
Ed. 002 in this day and age, having 1 year left on his contract and refusing to sign an extension is the equivalent of asking to leave, surely.

I do find the youth conversation a bit of a prickly one. At times you have suggested that young LFC players don't get the opportunities at this club. You also seem to agree that a player needs to work hard and get his head down to deserve a place in the first team. Are they exclusive?

Comparing clubs in the past you have also said that Chelsea were planning to bring through youth last season anyway, regardless of their transfer ban. However now they have been released from that, they are buying players to be ahead of the youth players. Surely that would have happened if the ban had not been in place. My point is that all things being equal, the top clubs will buy in players over promoting youth.

Whether it be a transfer ban or a lack of available funds, it seems that the best opportunities at clubs for youth players to come through is a negative change in the circumstances of clubs. I am not convinced that the top clubs are that far apart on their youth policies.

{Ed002's Note - It is not the same as "asking to leave" which would mean they lose their 5% of the transfer fee - which could of course be significant. Comparing it to Chelsea is not so simple as they are not buying players to replace youth but to replace players moving on or coming to the end of their careers (e.g. Werner will take the place of Michy Batshuayi, Kakim Ziyech will take the place of Pedro etc.) - and Chelsea do have one or two youth products who will be joining the squad this season and others progressing their careers on planned loans. They have also been adding young 16/17 year old players from Europe as this summer is the last opportunity for the British clubs to do so - it is all planned. But they of course suffer with youngsters wanting too much too soon, and Tariq Lamptey is an example of that.}


13.) 20 Jul 2020 01:18:02
Ok. Thanks for your views.


14.) 20 Jul 2020 04:47:37
One more point of view. Of course I understand the difference between handing in a transfer request and leaving because your contract is running out and you are sold to make a return before leaving on a free. Financially the difference is considerable.

However from a fans point of view, the result is the same. The player leaves. Technically they are different however clubs rarely let a player run down his contract and therefore his refusal to sign a new contract will result in him probably leaving. Hence my comment about them being virtually the same.

{Ed002's Note - Players run down their contracts more often than perhaps you realise. For example, Lallana, Pedro, Vertongen, Willain, Mendy, Longstaff, Callejon, Borini, Bonnaventura, Ibrahimovic, Biglia, Valero, .......

So I really don't understand your point.}


 

 

14 Jul 2020 17:37:59
Glad to hear Adam Lewis has got a new contract, expect he will go out on loan to Blackpool.

Reunited with critchley, hopefully can get the best out of him.

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20 Oct 2020 19:06:04
I’ve had a Vision of the future, that we have to play Rhys Williams at CB due to injury and suspensions and he takes the role with both hands and becomes a regular!

The Southern Red

1.) 20 Oct 2020 19:39:21
I thought you said CB. let's hope he's trying not to take Allison's spot too using two hands!


 

 

07 Oct 2020 20:59:51
Ed’s what are your views of Grabara and Keheller?

They both are at a similar age but have taken very different paths of regular loans vs staying at the club and playing the odd game.

Do you think Keheller’s development is being stunted without game time or is it offset by potentially working with top class players.

The Southern Red

{Ed001's Note - hard to say at this stage. Both have pluses and minuses and it really depends on the player as to which is best. You have to suit the path to the person.}


1.) 07 Oct 2020 21:35:46
Fair enough very diplomatic but true answer!

Who do you think has more potential?

{Ed001's Note - tough one, Kelleher looks more confident with his feet but Grabara looks a better shot stopper. So probably Grabara.}


2.) 08 Oct 2020 08:26:12
I prefer a GK who is good at actually doing his job as in, shot stopping rather than one that is better with his feet.


3.) 08 Oct 2020 10:04:28
I personally rate Kelleher higher than Grabara. In my opinion he's also a better sweeper keeper, stands up better 1 on 1's, and more comfortable claiming crosses.

Both good young keepers though. I remember i watched Liverpool u21's vs MK Dons in a friendly about 4 or 5 years ago and Kelleher played that day. He was absolutely outstanding. I've been waiting for him to get a chance ever since and i think if Klopp wants to insist on us playing the same way even in Alisson's absence, shot stopping actually isn't the most important attribute we need from our goalkeeper.


4.) 08 Oct 2020 10:05:46
Red Meister, I would rather someone who is very good at both. Or have u not seen Adrian play out from the back with his feet? 🤣.


5.) 08 Oct 2020 10:22:15
A team that likes to play out from the back a need someone who is good at feet. Simples.


6.) 08 Oct 2020 12:40:12
you know nothing Jon Snow. sorry couldn't resist!


7.) 08 Oct 2020 15:13:48
Seen the songify version WY? Lol.


8.) 08 Oct 2020 19:11:58
Just googled it, I have no idea what I have just watched 😂.


9.) 08 Oct 2020 22:42:09
IB, Adrian is good at neither.


10.) 08 Oct 2020 23:49:19
It's "King in the North" actually.


 

 

05 Oct 2020 23:06:20
I am surprised we have allowed ourselves to be in a position where all three of Gruijc, Shaqiri and Wilson are still at the club.

not only are we leaving ourselves with a HG issue over registering we also only have a 28 day WP for Gruijc!

i do praise our team around transfers, but pricing them all out of a move seems to of backfired.

The Southern Red

 

 

05 Oct 2020 10:17:19
well yesterday was fun! first and foremost i want to say well done Dean Smith, not just for yesterday but this season they have looked a different gravy decent signings good young players.

Yesterday was a shambles, from start to finish, everything that could of gone wrong went wrong from deflected goals to shocking defending it was just not our day.

it is what it is, no knee jerk reactions, they all need to look at themselves and take responsibility for that match and make sure that NEVER happens again.

what a mad mad season this will be, bring on Everton eh!

The Southern Red

1.) 05 Oct 2020 11:18:40
Put it down to a bad day at the office thankfully the derby game is just around the corner and we can't be that bad again surely not.


2.) 05 Oct 2020 12:43:44
Worst perf. under Klopp and it definitely takes some doing. Complete crap show from top to bottom and Klopp included. All in all, it is just one result. LFC have lost 5 of their last 80 games. This is an outlier. However, we are really up against it now due to injuries and all that. We are going to have to dig deep and get thru this period. Klopp has his work cut out for him BUT I have NO doubt he will have the boys fired up for the derby. No better opportunity to put things right.


 

 

02 Oct 2020 10:15:10
i am surprised how few players have gone out on loan currently. i would expect quite a few of the older players who are still in the U23's to be pushing for moves away.

The Southern Red

1.) 02 Oct 2020 10:31:41
The domestic window is open slightly longer so a bit more time to sort those deals. the priority will be players like Gujic (personally I hope it's a loan and bring him back next year when Wiji goes) and Shaq who will probably be sold abroad.

{Ed002's Note - LIverpool have been clear in that they will not loan him out.}


2.) 02 Oct 2020 11:07:09
We currently have eight out on loan if you include Anderson Arroyo who has been training with Tondela in Portugal for nearly a month now, though the terms of his loan have not been finalised.
There are supposedly nine clubs interested in Liam Millar and four Championship teams in for Ben Woodburn, both are full internationals.

Nathan Phillips and Herbie Kane are injured at the moment though, as WYred says, the EFL window stays open longer, closing at 1700 hours on 16 October.


3.) 02 Oct 2020 11:37:48
Didn't Woodburn move to Rotterdam on loan last month?


4.) 02 Oct 2020 11:57:03
Buzzer, Ben Woodburn is still at the club, he captained the U21 team on Tuesday.


5.) 02 Oct 2020 12:17:56
@IB no Woodburn played against Tranmere on Tuesday and is currently Captain of the U23s. The Sparta move seems to have stalled for some reason but there's interest from elsewhere.


6.) 02 Oct 2020 14:28:45
Oh ok my bad.
He is another who needs to move on for his own sake as he has no future at LFC.


7.) 03 Oct 2020 01:39:43
Or is he going to Roma? Who knows where he'll be next season.

Could be Rotterdam or anywhere, Liverpool or rome?

{Ed0666's Note - I see what you did there


8.) 04 Oct 2020 01:31:51
Thanks you two for helping to answer him, I was confused what players he's talking about. The average age of the actual squad that played Tranmere on Tuesday was 18.75 years.

As mentioned, the senior citizens of that group Woodburn (20) and Millar (21) are likely to go, as well as VdB and Liam Coyle.

In case you missed any, these players have left on loan already: Ojo (Cardiff), Gallacher (Toronto), Awoniyi (Union Berlin), Grabara (Aarhus), Boyes (Fleetwood), Lewis (Amiens) .

Just to recap, Shamal George (Colchester), Kai McKenzie-Lyle (Cambridge), Alex Turner (Runcorn), Isaac Christie-Davies (Barnsley) and Pedro Chirivella (Nantes) all left the club on frees this summer and have thankfully found clubs.

Joe Hardy is a weird one. I'm not sure how much precedent there is for a club signing a player just to play for their U23s. But surely he'll be able to find a place in a senior squad somewhere now, he looks a decent natural goal scorer.


 

 

 

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22 Oct 2020 20:58:56
Seeing as the release clause comes into effect next summer I doubt we’d be getting that.

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18 Oct 2020 12:35:54
Give it a bloody rest Riomazy! Christ we are waiting on whether our player is badly injured and you are blabbing on about how we are a failure by not buying another CB!

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17 Oct 2020 11:39:13
A little bit of something is better than a lot of nothing!

Shame they both seem to be model professionals, and just kept their head down.

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17 Oct 2020 10:34:13
Obviously we are looking to cash in on players to help offset out incomings, but would we not potentially see young players sold for a cheap total but a higher sell on clause?

The Southern Red

{Ed002's Note - Sell on clauses are still reasonably rare in England. Buyers really don't have the money - clubs like LIverpool and Arsenal have purchased players by gambling future income. At the lower-level they cannot even do that and the loan system works well for them. You won't see a return to the norm anytime soon I am afraid.}


 

 

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16 Oct 2020 17:53:40
Hope we look at him in the future, top talent!

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22 Oct 2020 20:59:51
He’s not mentally tired, he isn’t fit! like the rest of the team!

He needs some rhythm and a set of games to get up to speed.

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21 Oct 2020 19:52:10
I do sympathise with Phillips, as you say a bit more of a traditional defender, works hard puts in tackles can head the ball, I think his passing is a bit missing but still as you say a decent young defender, did well in Germany.

He has only been a model professional during all this and kept his head down!

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18 Oct 2020 12:38:46
I just find it bizarre how VAR in England, got the most lucrative league in the world can get things so wrong!

The US and Australia both allow VAR to walk through the incident live to the fans and give an explanation of why they make a decision, none of this drawing lines on a screen in silence on a frame they hope is the closest whilst the rest of us work out what is going on.

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09 Oct 2020 12:25:30
We seem to have a large number of young keepers still at the club, do you think we will see a few move out on loan?

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{Ed002's Note - They have added two kiddies and also have had Javi Cendon training with the squad. Four GKs have left this summer so I think it will stay as it is for now.}


 

 

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08 Oct 2020 14:59:13
Alisson's son obviously!

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