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21 Jan 2025 14:34:55
Let's call a spade a spade:
Still no resolution for the 3 key players contracts? Amateur hour, shambolic nonsense. Embarrassing the club is allowing this to rumble on.
Signing nobody of note yet again? Shambolic, pathetic, and could actually be the difference at the business end of the season.
The club is being run well as a business, but shockingly for what it is actually functioning as - a football club. If this continues the suits behind the scenes are going to run the club into mediocrity. I am really annoyed that we are doing so well on the pitch, but being completely and utterly failed off of it. Heads should roll.
1.) 21 Jan 2025 15:01:14
Run so shockingly badly as a football team that we are sitting on top of The Premiership and the ECL.
2.) 21 Jan 2025 15:08:21
Seano yeah I agree we are being run terribly as a football team. Top of the league still in all competitions what are these clowns doing to our club. If we could only spend money hand over fist like loads of other teams win no trophies I would be a much happy fan.
3.) 21 Jan 2025 15:11:51
It does make you wonder how we'll go about replacing VVD, TAA, and Salah (assuming they leave) in addition to Robertson and whoever else leaves in the summer - Jota? Nunez? Diaz? All three?
4.) 21 Jan 2025 15:32:27
Feel sorry for Slot having to field the questions on it, they should wheel out the Lego haired gimp Hughes to do that.
5.) 21 Jan 2025 15:42:25
lol us been top of the league is irrelevant and I'm so fed up of seeing people using that to try and say everything is ok when it's not.
If we sign nobody this month and our three lads leave, in the summer how much work will be needed to be done? Not to mention if Diaz (or when), Nunez or Jota leaves. Tons of business to be done, it's not about this season it's about beyond that.
If we could get the contracts sorted this month, signed a midfielder and a defender this month then I'd believe in the suits a little more but do we really believe that's going to happen? I certainly don't.
This season we'll win things but now we have the concern about after this season. Our team could look very different next season and with Hughes and Ward there I'm not convinced it'll be the right changes for Liverpool. Just look at the summer.
6.) 21 Jan 2025 15:52:26
Salah. A new contract for a player wanting more money whose value will only decrease. He already is noticeably doing less running off the ball. It is the timing of his current contract that is the issue here. Unless he will agree to a two year deal I don’t see this happening. And even then I am not sure we should do this.
VVD. Yeah. This one needs to get over the line.
Trent. Whatever he chooses, good luck to him.
Bottom line is that these posts venting because the club is being run like a business, and not like Leeds circa David O Leary, are simply depressing.
We are top of the league. Top of the CL. We are being called the best team in Europe currently. We play engaging, sensible football, we have managed a potential downturn post Klopp wonderfully, and have a massive stadium. If we can’t enjoy this season then what is the point of any of this?
7.) 21 Jan 2025 16:05:20
Did you miss were I said we’re doing really well on the pitch Grino and Kemlyn? Our excellence on the pitch is in spite of the efforts of those behind the scenes, not because of them.
8.) 21 Jan 2025 17:11:07
It’s not run well as a business. Could do a lot better.
9.) 21 Jan 2025 16:12:30
The plastic fans always quantify the success of a football club based on what happens in the transfer market rather than what happens on the pitch.
10.) 21 Jan 2025 17:14:23
Nobody is implying they should spend hand over fist, just get the players in for the gaping holes in the team. It's obvious where there's a weakness . The dogs on the street can see it. If Hughes can't then he should be sacked. If liverpool get a couple of injuries in key areas and end up losing the league then he should be held responsible.
11.) 21 Jan 2025 17:33:58
@OP, the suits running the club see it as a business. Apparently the club has risen in value from £300m when they bought it to £4bn today. They aren’t running the business down at all. What you actually mean is they aren’t buying the very, very expensive players you want the club associated with.
The squad’s performance, to date, has been exceptional - nobody expected Slot to do thi well or the team to reach the position they have. As the club stands it is in both a strong financial position and in terms of where the first team squad sits and the way it is performing.
Three players are out of contract at the end of season as things currently stand but nobody on this board or outside of the club has the first clue as to what’s going on but there’s no concrete evident that the players will either leave or stay. The issue will resolve itself and the business will look to protect itself with an improved squad next season - not to do so would be detrimental to the business and, to date, they look like they know what they are doing in this respect.
The gossip mongering - shambolic, pathetic etc - is, in the context of where the business stands and the team is performing is absolutely ridiculous and, to be fair, just sounds like a bunch of four year olds stamping their foot and saying they aren’t going to eat their tea.
12.) 21 Jan 2025 17:52:21
I actually agree fully that us doing really well on the pitch is in spite of the FSG and their puppets.
13.) 21 Jan 2025 18:00:36
Or people have a bit of hindsight WDW3 something you clearly don't!
14.) 21 Jan 2025 18:29:41
And those terrible suits did extensive research and saved us from Amorim and embarrassing ourselves with Madrid based Alonso and brought in a chap who makes Klopp look like David Brent. Good times are here and to stay and if Salah goes he goes.
15.) 21 Jan 2025 18:29:47
Call me crazy but maybe, just maybe, the people running the club who are currently top of the league and the champions league know what they're doing more than people who have no knowledge regarding the ins and outs of running a football club.
16.) 21 Jan 2025 18:38:48
Top of the Prem and Europe but we're a badly run business and people need to be sacked like a ritualistic sacrifice.
Completely detached from reality.
{Ed025's Note - an absolute shambles Flash ???
17.) 21 Jan 2025 19:03:15
Oh, and I forgot to mention that not only are we top of the ECL but top with 100% record but clearly 100% is not enough for some people.
18.) 21 Jan 2025 19:01:09
You not heard the sky is falling in at the moment ed025? ?.
{Ed025's Note - it does seem that way Kopite, i cant believe what im reading on here half the time mate..
19.) 21 Jan 2025 19:32:49
Its embarrassing some of the nonsense some of our fans are coming out with. I suspect a lot of them fumed when we never got the players they wanted and are wishing it to all fall apart so they can be proved right. Some just can't hold their hands up an say maybe they were wrong. Oh well, I for one will enjoy the ride.
20.) 21 Jan 2025 19:42:30
I actually don’t think it’s embarrassing as much as stubbornness.
The longer this has rumbled on it feels like a game of cat and mouse but it’s two cats and no mouse!
Usually you’d expect a negotiation and the two parties to meet in the middle.
However none of the players seem to be willing to lower their expectations enough and equally the club are not willing to budge enough on what they are willing to offer.
I have the feeling the club is not willing to sign off on all three new contracts due to the huge outlay in terms of spend to renew all 3.
I think either the players reduce their demands and they sign or one player (at least) moves on which allows the club to re-sign the other two on new deals.
It feels very similar to me at least to the Mane and Salah renewal saga few seasons back. In the end we let one go and resigned the other one on a big new deal.
I just don’t think the club is willing to commit to what they are three players want.
Not because “the owners are tight” or “they’re saving all their money for the baseball team” or because they hate Liverpool.
There will unquestionably be a large cost impact of the three renewals and two of them have reduced resale value due to their age going forward.
Football in the PL has become an accounting business with all this PSR stuff (which I hate as it stifles progression and encourages selling off young talent rather than developing it like it should be! ) .
21.) 21 Jan 2025 20:03:28
Shambolic, embarrassing, pathetic and nonsense of a club.
Get it off your chest, Seano ?.
22.) 21 Jan 2025 20:20:02
I think they're trying to change something to encourage teams to invest in their youngsters rather than using them as ways around PSR. Maybe it will be that selling academy products doesn't go towards their PSR budget. I don't know but I'd much rather teams keep their academy players rather than buying a load of players then having to sell them.
23.) 21 Jan 2025 20:29:12
Y'all seem to forget the person who put us in this position is Jürgen klopp. When those renewals needed doing he was in charge of the club almost entirely from a football perspective.
In addition he knew he was leaving as far back as the previous summer yet still spent plenty of money that summer anyway while not getting those three signed up.
Who's to say that the year that those contracts were winding down those players didn't all feel let down by the club and klopp and that's why they're now holding the club over a barrel.
Fsg have made plenty of mistakes but this mess was not created by them. Klopp left them with three demoralised players whose contracts had been neglected by klopp after a season in which he quit mid season and they had no idea what to expect in future.
24.) 21 Jan 2025 22:02:46
Another shambolic, embarrassing, pathetic and nonsense win tonight. I for one am getting fed up with all this winning without spaffing a load of money. Imagine how much higher in the table we'd be if we bought all the players people are demanding!
25.) 21 Jan 2025 22:09:58
It’s not about getting to the top it’s about staying at the top. I don’t understand how people don’t understand the basics. When at the top you go again then again. You don’t settle you don’t drift otherwise we will drop off.
26.) 21 Jan 2025 22:18:29
I want to be challenging nxt year too. without those 3 and no new players we won't be. So using the current status to close down the argument doesn't wash. Even if the 3 of them sign, this has been shockingly handled. We ended klopps penultimate year losing 5 midfielders in one season, having not signed one for 4 years. It's worked out OK, but it demonstrates a complete lack of continuity planning. I'd say it was lucky that those we signed each worked out, that doesn't usually happen and that luck won't continue.
I'll enjoy this ride, but it's in spite of the transfer strategy, rather than because of it. There is no longevity to that strategy.
27.) 21 Jan 2025 22:23:50
@nevada: poppycock lad. Your kids must look forward to bedtime the stories you concoct.
28.) 21 Jan 2025 23:01:19
The budget will be set at the start of the season. It will be reviewed due to performance &/ or injury, but no doubt using sell to buy or by adjusting future budgets. We are owned by business men, they won't involve themselves with day to day and will expect those that have been put in place to manage that for them, including budgets.
As for the contracts, they have no doubt had an input, but will leave it to those in situ and will have authorised budgets and strategy. They will not care if any of the 3 leave if the strategy/ contingency is stuck to. We have benefitted hugely from their ownership and prudent business practices, but when everything is said and done it is simply an investment opportunity to them. But still, could be worse could be Radcliffe or Musk and good people and club servants will be discarded like they are rubbish. Better the devil you know and a modicum of success.
29.) 21 Jan 2025 23:19:43
I quote Ferris Bueller ‘life moves pretty fast. If you don’t stop and look around once in a while you could miss it’.
Roughly translated, live for the moment guys. Stop worrying about things that might or might not happen in future or comparing things to what’s happened in the past. It’s futile and will only make you unhappy.
We are top of the PL and CL, in the SF of the league cup and still in the FA cup with a favourable draw. If you can’t just enjoy that then you’ll never be happy.
Plus can we get a petition together to get Slot a Knighthood? God knows he deserves it getting this team to where it is with all of the blatantly obvious gaping holes in the team.
30.) 21 Jan 2025 23:32:45
I wouldn't say the club is badly run, coz I have no idea what's going on behind. But I'm with most here, it does worry me a lot that even the contracts are not sorted yet.
We might see big changes with the squad next season, and I kinda don't like big changes. It always started rough, and it might takes time to stabilize it.
31.) 21 Jan 2025 23:41:20
I can't understand why are we not giving Salah a contract he deserves. he is super fit, efficient, professional and having his best season ever. If anyone thinks he is going to perform bad in the next 3 Years they shouldn't be working at this club.
32.) 21 Jan 2025 23:44:41
I clearly never said we should “spaff a load of money” on players, I said we haven’t signed any of note despite there being clear holes in the squad. Slot is doing fantastically well, so is the team, but they are not being helped in any way by recruitment and they should be. We bought a GK and sent him on loan, a winger who has only just player his first games for the club (and who you could argue was far from a priority), and a kid who we ripped up our youth academy wage structure for. I get it we’re doing well now, but that doesn’t mean the clubs transfer approach is somehow vindicated. Strong tears should continue to strengthen - we haven’t, why?
The 3 contracts for 3 key personnel are not only detracting from the teams excellent season, but those 3 players have been central to it! Yet the club has allowed the situation to continue without seemingly any resolution. What other club allows its 3 best players to have their contracts run down like this? I know we’re doing well in the league, but this is about more than current form. The club can’t continue to be run like this and succeed, something will give sooner or later.
I want the club to be successful, the club seems to be being run in a way that will make that significantly more difficult. We are lucky Slot is doing so well, that the players we have are playing to such a high standard, but I’m looking at this with the perception greater than a baby, so I’m not just thinking “yeah we’re doing great right now” I’m considering the long term implications and, in my opinion, they are not great. If you disagree that’s fine, but this continual aping of “were top of the league, badly run lol” us not only short-sighted, but fails to address any of the points made.
33.) 21 Jan 2025 23:53:03
@Kurt, thanks for making me laugh. We are talking about where we are now and we won’t have hindsight on where we are now until we move into the future.
34.) 22 Jan 2025 00:23:53
markp08, what if the players you want couldn't keep us at the top?
You can't always be at the top so I suggest you just enjoy it when you are, lad.
35.) 22 Jan 2025 01:55:58
@scousejohn 8 which part of what is said was untrue? It was klopps responsibility to resign players on expiring contracts. It was his responsibility to deal with transfers, it's why ward and Edwards left in the first place.
Klopp wanted full control, got it and then struggled with it, perhaps not realising just how hard it is.
While everyone is crying and moaning about fsg not signing these contracts but Jürgen also didn't sign them up for a whole year or so. Perhaps it's not as simple as it seems and that's why Jürgen couldn't get it done either.
36.) 22 Jan 2025 01:04:42
Ed, both things can be true don't they. Are we on top of the EPL and UCL table and have great chance of winning both? Yes. Are we still in other cup competition? Also yes. So that is all great.
But we are also looking at a situation where we might be losing 3 of our best players on free next season. That is 3 massive hole in the squad that need to be filled on top of needing a new LB, another CB and another DM.
And if reports of us wanting to replace Nunez and possibly Jota is true, then that's another two spots that need to be filled. Suddenly we are looking at close to 10 players that need replacing in short period of time. That doesn't really scream well run club does it?
That is a massive changes and massive changes rarely turn out to be good. Can we trust the person in charge to handle all of this to do well? Looking at the last transfer window, I have my doubts.
Yes its all looking bright and rosy at the moment, but it can suddenly turn grim in six months time. Yes peoples can celebrate the progress that we have made so far this season, but that's doesn't mean others can't be worried about our future.
{Ed025's Note - forget all the cudda wudda shudda malarkey Mfahmee, any players that go will be replaced and the club will move on mate..
37.) 22 Jan 2025 08:10:01
You try to give yourself the best possible chance. I know you never agree Rigsby but when we were dominating European football that’s exactly what we did. Buy 2-3 players every season to try and keep the squad at the top. We did the opposite last time we won the league. This time the squad is easily improved.
38.) 22 Jan 2025 09:09:22
Markp but we also sold 2-3 players a season. keegan went to Hamburg, Souness went to Italy, Jimmy Case and Terry Mac were pushed out of the door, a prime Clemence effectively moved on by an unknown Zimbabwean.
You cannot use the past as a barometer and a bet look the massive losses (or so we thought at the time) .
39.) 22 Jan 2025 09:26:34
Oh well Ed, if only it was that easy to replace good players as you say, every clubs should be able to compete for the top prize won't they. Of course the club will move on. Its whether we moving in right direction in competing for the league and UCL trophy or back to competing for top four.
{Ed025's Note - to quote the great ED002 "all players are just transient employees" Mfahmee, we all asked in the past how players like...Keegan, Rush, Dalglish etc can be replaced?, the fact is they were mate and the club moves on..
40.) 22 Jan 2025 11:06:33
At the end of the day, what really matters is how "they" (Slot, LFC upper management and FSG football management) see things, and how you or I see them does not mean a thing. If nothing is happening then it's either they're choosing not to reveal things (as is their right and privilege) or they're actually choosing to do nothing about it.
But we all know that there is no such thing as "choosing to do nothing about it". Things are happening in the background (good or bad, we'll eventually find out) . You don't run a football club like LFC and "do nothing" because that's the recipe for failure, and a rather speedy one given the nature of the business. What's happening in those offices upstairs always reflects itself on to the field, rather quickly. And I personally see nothing that LFC has done, since being bought by FSG, as being truly horrendous or shambolic. The trajectory has been regularly going up. Some mis-steps for sure, but it's a business, and every business will try out new things to see what the market will bear and what it will not.
But fine. Some of us need to throw some toys out of the pram, from time to time. So be it.
41.) 22 Jan 2025 10:33:46
Fair point Ed. I'm not old enough to watch the players you mentioned, so can't comment on that. Didn't Liverpool fall off quite badly once the like of Daglish and Rush retire or leave the club. The 90s to early 20s were a bad time to be a Liverpool supporters.
{Ed025's Note - when you say bad mate its never actually been that bad, football always has peaks and troughs and the Liverpool fan base has always had high expectations so they think that not finishing near the top is a disaster, you have not finished in the bottom half since Methuselah was a lad..
42.) 22 Jan 2025 17:26:08
Mfahmee2 - when rush retired Fowler took over, when Fowler left Owen was there. When Owen left there was a short gap before Torres joined. When Torres left we had Suarez, when Suarez left we got some dude called mo Salah. When Salah leaves we will find another. Oddly enough striker is the one position we always seem to find a world class replacement, and most of the time they're quite cheap as well.
{Ed025's Note - i know Nevada...it makes me sick.. :)
43.) 22 Jan 2025 21:29:34
we have the deepest squad in the league, maybe the world.
the 90s were bad because we had a sh*t owner who sat on the success of previous decades and then just watched ManU walk past us.
44.) 22 Jan 2025 22:16:16
When we have success on the Pitch that it has absolutely nothing to do with the club and the way it is run is an absolutely bonkers thing to think!
I detest Man U with a passion but they, like us, are rich in heritage and even in their lowly position the resources they have (including the manager) are not bottom half table resources but just look at them in the field of play they typically seem disinterested demotivated by the club. It isn’t the manager that is demotivating them a new guy with a passion and some credibility it is the wider organisation of the club. If our players were as disenchanted with this club there is absolutely no way we would be where we are.
You can read it all on the field of play, it couldn’t be hidden!
45.) 23 Jan 2025 17:52:16
@Seano, you mention that the players are performing really well on the pitch despite what the owners do - quick question - who put the players on the pitch .
General point - in the second half of last season a sizeable proportion of this board was wetting itself because Klopp was leaving. Where will we find a manager anywhere near as good? We need Xabi because he is brilliant (how’s he going this season by the way? ), we need Amorim (ditto) . We’re doomed I tells ya. The club is being run by fools who don’t know what they are doing (despite being the ones who listened to advice and brought Klopp in) . Then of course, they brought Slot in and miraculously the players are performing exceptionally well despite what the club do.
This year we are collectively wetting ourselves about the three lads whose contracts are up at the end of the season. Of course the club are rubbish and can’t do anything right so no doubt the three will leave, most of the rest of the squad will demand transfers in sympathy for their fellow players and Slot will be shown the door despite winning the PL and CL as he couldn’t be ar$ed buying players in the transfer window. Or perhaps we should just wait and see what happens (@Frode close your eyes for this bit), perhaps the people running the business do have a couple of ideas that might just work.
46.) 25 Jan 2025 05:13:17
Thanks Seano at last someone has called a spade a spade ?.
17 Oct 2021 23:15:01
I'm constantly impressed by Declan Rice, and think he will be a top top player. Are Liverpool or any others showing serious interest in him? I know we have Fabinho but I imagine he could play higher up the pitch if necessary.
{Ed002's Note - Manchester United are keen.}
1.) 18 Oct 2021 07:45:02
Why would he take a step down to go to Man U?
2.) 18 Oct 2021 09:29:43
He’ll end up at United or Chelsea, West Ham want £100m for him so he’s not in our price range.
3.) 18 Oct 2021 10:25:20
Who is better Rice or Phillips?
4.) 18 Oct 2021 11:42:36
Phillips better passer. Rice better engine and all round I reckon.
5.) 18 Oct 2021 12:15:53
Really don't get the hype with Rice. £30m player with an inflated fee IMO.
6.) 18 Oct 2021 12:45:31
Not for me. Massively hyped up by the media imo. Not sure what he brings tbh.
7.) 18 Oct 2021 13:10:27
Rice is on a completely different level than Phillips. Phillips is a fine player, but Rice is one of the best talents in England right now.
8.) 18 Oct 2021 14:34:02
Mftonjes can you explain why you think he's one of the best talents? I couldn't disagree more but I respect your opinion 👌.
9.) 18 Oct 2021 15:11:34
I personally think Phillips is too slow and not defensively strong enough, whereas Rice is better defensively, he’s also not particularly quick and is as mobile as the QE2 and I don’t think he’s as clever a defensive player as either Fabinho or Rodri.
Either way he’ll be United’s big summer signing next year and Ole’s final piece of the jigsaw #1426 and counting.
{Ed0666's Note - Are we comparing Nat Philips to Declan Rice? They play completely different positions
10.) 18 Oct 2021 15:14:09
I am impressed with Rice too.
He keeps, carries and distributes the ball excellently.
Better than Gini for sure.
Not the same kind of player as Fab.
Probably more of a Henderson replacement.
The thing is, I have been looking at midfielders in every team and see which can improve Liverpool. Ty
Despite the constant criticism of Liverpool midfield, there aren't that many better I would take.
If you consider KDB, for sure he will improve the team.
Otherwise, I think Rice will do a job (far better than Phillips) .
And we truly miss Gerrard.
If the current team has a Gerrard, we will indisputably the best team in the world.
{Ed0666's Note - Rice is a superb player goes about his work in an efficient and effective manner and would certainly be a worthy successor to Hendo. The midfield player I would take is Ndombele if Bissouma has been a naughty boy. That fella is mercurial. Lord knows what position he plays because he’s everywhere.
11.) 18 Oct 2021 17:10:32
Ndombele or bissouma Ed?
{Ed0666's Note - I think Ndombele would be perfect for us with the personnel we have
12.) 18 Oct 2021 19:25:44
Tielemans without doubt he is different from what we have.
{Ed0666's Note - inconsistent tho no?
13.) 18 Oct 2021 22:11:24
I meant Phillips at Leeds United Ed.
{Ed0666's Note - thanks for cleaning that up mate. I was beginning to think I’d lost all my faculties. For sure Rice over Philips for me. Rice is a Hendo in the making
14.) 18 Oct 2021 22:24:50
Can’t compete with Newcastle. Am sure they’ll want him.
15.) 19 Oct 2021 09:39:59
I agree I think Rice would be a great Hendo successor, it’s a pity he is likely too expensive for us.
16.) 19 Oct 2021 12:28:35
Rice miles better than Gini. I know there are Gini haters on here but get a grip. Rice is slow. Often poorly positioned. Average passer. He’s a slightly better Dier IMO and massively overhyped by the press (for a change) .
17.) 19 Oct 2021 13:07:09
But Ed Ndombele has baggage, too. He seems to have a real attitude problem that's causing issues at Spurs.
18.) 19 Oct 2021 13:11:30
Gandalf, I just love the player. First, he's highly skilled and intelligent. There's something instinctual to the way he plays, especially for a guy who is often in the defensive half. To that point, he's plays difficult positions, ones that often takes a lot of experience to master, and he's doing it really well as a very young player. Also the age is relevant too, because he's playing for a club that isn't well known for development, and he continues to improve each season and likely in a trial by fire situation. I don't watch him regularly, rather a handful of times a season, and every time I've watched him I've thought he's been better than the last time I watched him. There are few players that stand out to me like this.
No player is a perfect player, but it really feels like there is a student of the craft in him and given his base skillset, he has a ton to work with. I see him being one of the best (potentially the best) English midfielders of the next decade. There's a reason why United and supposedly City are both wanting him badly.
{Ed002's Note - I would not hold your breath for Rice.}
19.) 19 Oct 2021 13:24:33
Ed002 - Ha, I agree. I don't believe there is a fit between him and Liverpool at all, I was just telling Gandalf why I like the player. He's already too high priced for Liverpool.
20.) 19 Oct 2021 20:47:03
for me Ndombele looks great in spells then you don't know his on the pitch a lot of the time for spurs. But when he does put a spell in his great on the ball I don't think the prem suits him. A better version of Naby but not a player for a full season in the prem for me. Bissouma if he has not done anything wrong would be a lot better fit. As for Rice being a Henderson replacement I think I would rather Curtis Jones do that.
21.) 20 Oct 2021 20:13:17
Ed0666 agree with you that rice is the closest thing to Hendo. Tielemans only 24 so consistently would improve don’t you think?
{Ed0666's Note - he needs to finesse and hone his game some more in my opinion and add consistency
22.) 21 Oct 2021 07:41:36
Whilst I think Rice is good I think he is overhyped because he is English. In terms of us I do not think we would be a good fit. He is not a Hendo type player as he doesn’t have the fitness or passing range of Hendo. He would do a job in defensive midfield but the lack of direct creativity from our central midfielders overall makes us quite reliant on the passing range of Fabinho which is very understated. He would be overly expensive and not an upgrade on our strongest 11 which should always be the aim.
23.) 23 Oct 2021 01:20:06
Still hating on Gini. SMH
I don't see why we would sign a midfielder. Even if you are looking for someone to replace Henderson in the future, Curtis is that player for me. If there HAS to be a premier league player out of the ones you have listed, I would like Tielemans. And not because he flukes balls into the top corner against United :)
24.) 23 Oct 2021 20:26:09
Mftonjes
West ham aren't known for nurturing talent?
West ham have nurtured some of the best talent that's played in the premiership over the past 20 years. lampard, ferdinand, defoe, joe cole are only a few.
Declan rice is a great player though and west ham would do well to keep him. tielemans has stagnated in his career considering he was considered amongst the best up coming talent in the world as a teenager though he's still only 24. bellingham is worth a mention if were talking young english midfielders.
Seen that papers are linking us for a move for sterling again now too.
Fact is we have a decent squad that can compete when the majority stays fit.
Id be much happier with a double pivot fab and hendo and drop firmino into AM and play with an out and out striker.
11 Jan 2018 10:03:38
Heard from a good source that Ceballos is 'nailed on' to join before the window closes. No idea how my source knows but works within football and simply passed it on, make of it what you will.
Personally I would be a bit underwhelmed if the de facto replacement for Coutinho was Ceballos as seems a marked step down in quality but hey ho let's see what materialises.
1.) 11 Jan 2018 10:37:30
Why are people saying he is the replacement of coutinho? What if we are taking advantage of his situation at madrid?
Although I agree that he is not a Coutinho replacement, I think he is a good player and would be a good acquisition for the squad looking forward.
2.) 11 Jan 2018 10:55:19
Yes we ain't going to replace coutihno he is a world class Brazil international, but what we can do is strengthen the areas we are weak in we lack creative spark in midfield an someone who can manipulate the ball he is a gamble but could also turn out too b real quality well worth a punt especially if we can get keita early as well suddenly midfield is lookin healthy freeing up the attack, ox, mane, Salah, firmino, lallana, solanke, sturridge, nice options, still I would like us too buy an attacker like lemar, mahrez, suso, draxler wishful thinking though.
3.) 11 Jan 2018 12:00:02
I wonder if we will hear from wonder dog sparky?
4.) 11 Jan 2018 13:53:12
Hi eds i'm going to need your email addresses, mothers maiden names and the names of your first pets. uh. for science
Seriously though I hope we can do something like this, the buzz the club had post VVD left along with Phil.
5.) 11 Jan 2018 22:02:17
Coutinho was crap in midfield. Addressing the balance there would be an upgrade.
6.) 11 Jan 2018 22:39:08
Faith, he wasn’t really crap in midfield though was he? He played most games in midfield this season and had one of his best (half) seasons.
7.) 12 Jan 2018 19:12:12
our midfield is very weak at the moment, and could be the weakness that City will try and take control over, we really need at least one top player coming in this window, the name I have is the big guy from Roma,
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24 Jun 2025 07:15:24
I wonder how this post season tournament is going to affect the participating teams? Brutal heat apparently, preseasons may start later or players just get less holidays - I know financially it's lucrative, but I feel like in other aspects we may be better off not having gone. Any else think it'll have negative impacts on the participaning teams?
1.) 24 Jun 2025 07:52:44
There can't be many physical benefits for the players considering the conditions, but when did FIFA ever care about anything else but money.
2.) 24 Jun 2025 07:56:19
It’s all about the money.
3.) 24 Jun 2025 08:15:46
It’ll be interesting to come back to this post in 6 months time and compare performance in the leagues vs clubs who were in CWC, personally I can see this really causing injuries and fatigue to those clubs.
4.) 24 Jun 2025 08:25:56
Imagine having a full season then going straight into that? the players will be knackered. I'm so glad we're not part of it.
5.) 24 Jun 2025 08:59:45
I think it’s more a precursor to the WC, building interest in the game in USA etc.
Kompany said as much re above fitness etc, interesting point tho, he claimed it builds togetherness at press conference.
I’m glad we’re not there too, going to be an interesting season ahead for us as it is, a full preseason for slot and team.
Maybe adjustments will be made to style of the team etc, already wanting new season to start.
6.) 24 Jun 2025 09:46:12
I think the clubs involved might start next season fast but will tire towards the end.
7.) 24 Jun 2025 11:56:16
Is anyone on here actually watching the CWC games? What are they like?
8.) 24 Jun 2025 11:57:35
The whole thing is an absolute farce. Putting aside the strain it puts on the players the teams involved are largely awful.
We are getting cricket scores it’s absolutely pointless.
The way that teams get into it is a load of nonsense too. It leads to having a Club World Cup full of teams that are not even the best teams in their own leagues! How can you be a club world champion when you can’t even win your domestic league?
Whoever came up with the idea needs to give their head a wobble because it’s the worst idea in the history of football.
9.) 24 Jun 2025 14:03:23
I've watched some games, South American teams mainly who are doing well, games are slow paced and teams look jaded ecpesially the European teams. but as robbo says there's too many weak teams who shouldn't be at a "world cup" very poorly thought out tournament imo that could have been planed much better.
{Ed025's Note - its just a cash cow ASB..
06 Mar 2025 15:19:16
Worth noting that as soon as Endo came on yesterday PSG's chances suddenly stopped being in the box and were last resort, frustration-type outside of the box strikes. I hope Slot sees that, in some games, Endo should play.
1.) 06 Mar 2025 17:25:09
So true. I thi k well go with the physical presence up top with Nunez.
Curtis out wide. I'd like to see Endo alongside grav. But I don't think that'll happen.
2.) 07 Mar 2025 07:47:10
In fairness was also about the time that their legs were starting to fade and they took off pacey threats for more of a physical presence in and around the box.
Endo played well and nearly always does when coming on but he would have also been dribbled past repeatedly in that first half or on an early yellow and terrified to tackle at all.
01 Mar 2025 16:34:43
If we're not interested in Cunha then we should be, cracking player and just scored another excellent goal.
{Ed001's Note - not just the goal, it is the work off the ball, winning the ball back in the defensive third etc.}
1.) 01 Mar 2025 16:50:38
I’ve only actually seen Cunha twice this season and that was both games against us.
He did very well against us at Anfield and it’s clear posters who have seen him far more are extremely positive about him on here.
Rumour is a 60 odd mill buyout clause becomes active in the summer so I can definitely see us in for him.
Prior to the Wolves home game Slot actually praised him in his post match presser which could is a clear sign the gaffer is a fan.
2.) 01 Mar 2025 17:19:10
Is he not a diving little so and so aswell Ed001?
{Ed001's Note - does go down easily, sadly they all do nowadays.}
3.) 01 Mar 2025 17:38:41
Well Cunha’s character is definitely questionable.
{Ed001's Note - yeah, I was thinking that. How many sendings off is that this season for altercations?}
4.) 01 Mar 2025 17:54:09
Ed001 two I think mate. The last one he had that altercation with the steward which I personally thought was unneeded.
{Ed001's Note - you would defo want to look into that though if you were interested in signing him, it does seem he has a few issues.}
5.) 01 Mar 2025 18:17:02
Jekyll and Hyde performance that from Cunha. Channelling his inner Suarez.
6.) 01 Mar 2025 18:45:54
I think we'll stick with Isak.
7.) 01 Mar 2025 19:42:04
Joao Pedro is more likely, IMO.
8.) 01 Mar 2025 20:24:42
Could just be frustration being so good in a poor team. Darwin was a bit questionable early doors but that was quickly coached out.
9.) 01 Mar 2025 20:38:26
After what Kerkez said about Liverpool it makes me want Cunha even more ?.
10.) 01 Mar 2025 21:00:17
Ron the last word from Kerkez in Liverpool I’ve seen last week when asked about playing with Soboz at Liverpool was “that wouldn’t look bad, that’s for sure”.
11.) 01 Mar 2025 22:09:53
Well if he has questionable character, might as well go after someone else. We don't really need a player headbutting opposition and beefing with steward in our squad. Do you still think he is worth the trouble Ed? Excluding Cunha and Isak, is there other striker that you think suits us Ed?
{Ed001's Note - so far I would still go for Cunha.}
12.) 02 Mar 2025 02:47:54
Agreed Ed I think Cunha has everything we could want in a forward, and maybe a few things we could do without. If his release clause is 600mil I’m not sure there’s anyone out there who we could get for that price who would be better. Isaak is great, and I think he’s a fantastic player, but I doubt he would move for anything under 100mil, and that’d really affect our ability to spend in other areas.
13.) 02 Mar 2025 07:26:06
Seano for 600 mill I think he’d be a bargain ?.
I’d like to see us do an Arsenal though to just make sure and offer 600 mill and 1 pound.
18 Feb 2025 02:50:25
Everton played an u20's match ve Wigan at their new stadium - first game at it - first goal is by Wigan and the scorer does the '6 times' gesture! Comedy gold.
14 Feb 2025 05:03:12
The way that game was officiated it was clear Oliver had an agenda. Everton were allowed to be physical - we were punished whenever we breathed on them. They were given free kicks for dives, we were denied free kicks for genuine fouls (Salah one at the end was disgusting) . The time added on was a joke and clearly beyond what it should have been. The failure for both Oliver and VAR to penalize the blatant push on Konate - which stopped him winning the header, leading to the goal - was spineless, but after how the game had been officiated, unsurprising. It was as one-sided officiating as you could ever hope to see, and once again we are on the end of awful decisions. It doesn't feel like we get a fair shake, it feels like we are at the mercy of the whims of the referee. Everton fave will love it, but had the shoe been on the other foot they would be livid, as would any team. If you want to see what cheating looks like watch this game.
Everton were deserving of a draw overall, but teams are competing against each, not against each other and an official.
1.) 14 Feb 2025 07:28:15
Excellent post seano, u hit the nail on the head on everything. 100% right on everything u said.
2.) 14 Feb 2025 07:30:18
A pound bet he gets us in the city game.
3.) 14 Feb 2025 07:35:32
Konate’s handball when he scooped it was a penalty though.
{Ed025's Note - yeah we were robbed there Mark..
4.) 14 Feb 2025 07:37:49
Plus we were average with very few players playing well for us. I don’t agree with all these excuses, we just didn’t play well enough. It’s a massive couple of weeks and the players have to improve.
5.) 14 Feb 2025 08:52:22
Whilst you're right mark08 in that we didn't play as well as we could have, we were still winning 7 minutes into added time, and we did have a legitimate shout for both an offside and a blatant push. Not to mention the absolutely blatent foul on Salah
It is the first time I have ever heard of VAR having a built in 'margin for error, which resulted in the offside Ducoure being overlooked.
So quite a few decisions did go against us, but as lots of people say - things even themselves out over the season.
6.) 14 Feb 2025 10:34:49
ed1 - when did the margin for error rule come in? It looks like it has been applicable since 2019 but doesn’t seem to be applied consistently.
{Ed001's Note - I don't remember it ever being applied before, but it has been there all along. I believe the Premier League only added it to their VAR set up a year or two ago now.}
7.) 14 Feb 2025 10:48:13
We played crap, the officials weren't great, whinge and bleat all you like, a draw out of that was all we deserved. We allowed ourselves to be bullied over the place, couldn't exert control except for a brief spell at 2-1.
Poor performance away from home at Everton and didn't lose- result!
8.) 14 Feb 2025 11:11:36
We must look after ourselves. Arsenal have had some pretty bad decisions as well this year. Let just beat Wolves.
9.) 14 Feb 2025 11:17:48
Is the the Konate handball where Beto handballed it on to Konate’s hand? Just checking because last time I looked you are not allowed to push the ball onto someone’s hand with your hand and then claim a penalty.
Ridiculous Mark, I suggest you watch the incident again.
10.) 14 Feb 2025 11:45:53
Certainly first time I hear the margin for error rule being applied
Especially since we have been on receiving end of toe nail offsides, armpit off sides and till date I still don’t know which part of Mane’s body was offside when Hendo scored a late winner that was ruled out in another derby
Oh, and will never forget, good process, check complete and a legitimate goal being given offside
So it’s very infuriating to be on the receiving end of this as the first glance did seem offside.
11.) 14 Feb 2025 12:07:12
KBL, that's the problem. Things do not even out as that has never been a thing. My biggest example is Rep. of Ireland who got robbed by Thierry Henry's handball that led to the goal that denied them a WC ticket vs France. Has things evened out for them yet 15 years after the fact? The reason we have VAR (and goal line tech. ) is to get out of the business of "evening things out" and giving teams the decisions they rightly earn so please, let's stop repeating this fallacy it means nothing cos no one is checking what side of the ledger contains a deficit.
Also cos we did not play well over all does not give the ref the permission to screw us over again and again and again and deny us the decisions that are rightfully ours. One does not mean the other. Cos that literally will contribute to us not playing any better and will eventually hurt us, which it did vs Everton, as @Seano said.
12.) 14 Feb 2025 13:02:03
OliRed, I agree with you. That's why my post states 'lots of people say'. The sarcasm obviously didn't shine through enough.
13.) 14 Feb 2025 17:37:33
Apologies, KBL. I didn't see the joke there. Didn't mean to sound that tad harsh. I've just had it up to my eyeballs with such fallacies that I just have to respond cos you know, "lots of people say" it for no damn reason.
03 Jul 2025 14:23:18
This is terrible news. So tragic, a successful athlete in their prime leaves behind a wife and 3 children, and a mother loses her two sons. Incomprehensible. My heart goes out to them, so utterly devastating.
29 Jun 2025 12:55:47
I do not know Guehi’s own personal actions or stance Ron, but I’ve seen enough from players of various different religions to know that they cherry pick which parts of the scripture they really want to follow. It’s hypocritical and honestly I’m sick of people hiding behind religion as a defence for a rubbishty world view. I don’t care what religion it is, any intolerance of somebody who doesn’t fit into your world view is ridiculous and, whilst people have a right privately to believe whatever they want, they should be rightfully condemned when they make their ignorance public knowledge.
I hope we don’t sign Guehi because I don’t think he is good enough. I hope all players keep their religious views and opinions to themselves. If football is not the place to raise issues surrounding homophobia in the game, then it certainly isn’t the place to platform religious preferences or views.
29 Jun 2025 06:04:49
It’s not a forum for cretins either but you contribute everyday WDW. It was brought up regarding Guehi so discussion went there - don’t like it? You can keep scrolling.
29 Jun 2025 04:04:57
Diaz is 28, a fine player, but seemingly keen on a move to foreign shores. 80mil is more than we would get from any European club, and whilst he is very good he isn’t indispensable. I can’t see how the club could refuse that offer. As much as I like Diaz, if it is true, then I think he’ll be gone.
29 Jun 2025 03:54:29
If he (and any person) are such devout Christians then maybe they should read the Bible in a bit more detail and apply the same zeal they reserve for homosexuality to other issues it focuses on? It seems to me like a lot of these players who make that argument about their ‘beliefs’ are very selective about the contexts in which they apply it, and very specific about which issues they care about. It’s almost as if they choose to make an issue over campaigns regarding homophobia because they are do not like gay people. Funny how you never hear that kick up a fuss about the obscene wealth they earn, despite the Bible containing a substantially more scripture about the evils of wealth accumulation. Respect their beliefs? Not when their beliefs are moronic and cherry-picked.
07 Jul 2025 02:55:59
Condemned wasn’t the right word Oli, so let me rephrase: I do not think we can simplify the emotion and grief to either ‘use it to give us strength’ or ‘turn into self pity’. It isn’t that simple, and it isn’t fair to term it like that. A lot of people are going to struggle, badly, in the weeks, months, and years following this - I understand you have had personal experiences with grief, so too have I (losing my mother to brain cancer 3 years ago) - all I am saying is don’t be too harsh on anyone. If sone do feel pain and self pity and despair so be it - grief is an emotion unlike no other, and it is a heavy burden to carry, some are better than others at shouldering it.
Again I meant no disrespect Oli, and wasn’t trying to be accusatory, but rather suggesting we not measure a person based on their response to grief.
06 Jul 2025 18:23:05
Except it isn’t Oli, the tragic circumstance is thrust upon Diogo’s family, friends, teammates, fans - and there isn’t a script to follow. Some will be galvanized by his memory, some will get buried by it, some will find strength, others will find their strength stripped away - nobody should be condemned by their reaction to grief, or have any expectations placed on how they “should” respond. If it becomes too much for some that isn’t self pity, it’s being human, and I would not condemn anyone for that.
06 Jul 2025 12:38:21
Completely agree, the situation is unprecedented, and it will leave an indelible mark on many of those who knew Diogo. Whatever happens next season happens, this tragic incident has brought into sharp focus the fragility of life and how, in the grand scheme of things, football isn’t the be all and end all.
22 Jun 2025 16:24:14
Klopp won us the league, won us a CL, but most importantly he made the entire club believe in itself again. We went from being decent to peak, and though mistakes and results and other things happened, Klopp’s tenure was the the best football I’ve watched as a Liverpool fan (being too young to remember the 80’s) . Slot has been great, but to act like Klopp has played no part in that - or in our resurgence this past decade, is bizarre. Give Slot tons of credit, but don’t try and diminish strides we made under Klopp - we are lucky to of had both.
21 Jun 2025 12:48:27
I think it’s an area we are clearly weak in and can definitely upgrade, I’d expect us to do so.