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27 Apr 2024
27 Apr 2024 10:12:35
Ed001, I suppose it is a weak label based on what Klopp has since said was a joke.
He did bring a high intensity brand of football with him but it evolved to a more controlled brand with more selective spells of high intensity and we won the CL and PL.
The season we won the League we had the best defensive record.
{Ed001's Note - I don't see the relevance in anything you are saying. You seem to be completely missing the point in your efforts to prove you are a superfan. The last two seasons have been dog muck and the intensity has vanished along with switching over to a tedious, turgid, controlled style of football. The only thing we have won, and that was a close run thing against an abysmal Chelsea side managed by a serial loser, was the League Cup. Not exactly a great return when you consider the way we flunked out of the FA Cup against an even worse Man Utd side.}
27 Apr 2024
27 Apr 2024 10:16:08
This is what Peter Krawietz said, after we won the League, about us moving away from the so called heavy metal football, if anyone is interested:
Dominance and control, that’s what it’s about. It has always been in our approach to control football games in a dominant manner. That possibly distinguishes us from other teams. We try to dominate, even when we’re not in possession. Gegenpressing is not some wild chase after the ball, it’s predicated on a trigger, designed to minimise the opponent’s time on the ball. But the high individual quality of our players also allows us to control games in possession now, and to take up positions close to the ball, to be able to win it back again quickly if we do lose it.
Having more of the ball shouldn’t lead to you resting on the ball but it does look more… controlled. It allows you to move the opponent around. We’re not forced to go for goal in every move, we can take a more strategic line, switching the play, preparing spaces and attacking situations in a systematic fashion. Our team have made great strides in that respect, mostly due to their individual quality.
{Ed001's Note - what has this to do with anything? Krawietz is talking about what we wanted to see, not this dire Lijnders-ball we have ended up with over the last two seasons. Clearly you are too busy reading and not actually seeing.}
27 Apr 2024
27 Apr 2024 10:12:35
Ed001, I suppose it is a weak label based on what Klopp has since said was a joke.
He did bring a high intensity brand of football with him but it evolved to a more controlled brand with more selective spells of high intensity and we won the CL and PL.
The season we won the League we had the best defensive record.
{Ed001's Note - I don't see the relevance in anything you are saying. You seem to be completely missing the point in your efforts to prove you are a superfan. The last two seasons have been dog muck and the intensity has vanished along with switching over to a tedious, turgid, controlled style of football. The only thing we have won, and that was a close run thing against an abysmal Chelsea side managed by a serial loser, was the League Cup. Not exactly a great return when you consider the way we flunked out of the FA Cup against an even worse Man Utd side.}
27 Apr 2024
27 Apr 2024 10:02:43
Schultzy, Trent switches off far too often to play at number six you need a modicum of defensive ability and be alert to danger as well as being able to read the play, which Trent really doesn’t do very well (and I’m being generous there) . Trent is great at the Hollywood passing and free kicks, but the rest of his game isn’t that great, certainly not to be considered for arguably the most important role in the team.
Nevada, I’d tend to disagree that Busquets was the best defensive midfielder of modern times, Makalele was the best by a very very long way and I’d go as far as saying Rodri is better than Busquets ever was.
{Ed001's Note - Alonso was better than any of those.}
27 Apr 2024
27 Apr 2024 09:38:40
Ed01, that was not a match review, mate. That was a full-blown autopsy of our season (if not a proper therapy session) and frankly if we are being honest, we knew this the whole time but as fans are allowed to be, we were in a great position so well, we just ran with it and who could blame us?
"He has brought so much joy that it is not that I begrudge him the money or wanting a break, I am annoyed that he stayed too long. Instead of dreading him going, I am now actually just looking forward to it all being over. It is a shame because it should not be that way after all he has achieved. It should be like when he left Dortmund and the BVB fans were just broken-hearted. Instead it is almost going to be a relief. "
Mate, that hurt. It hurt really bad to read that, man. Klopp's blindspots and loyalty to Lijnders has done us in for the second season running. I knew we were not a great team, for sure but I thought our mentality and desire to prove the doubters wrong was fueling us to the top and with players coming back, we would improve. As you said, we were top in spite of the tactics rather than because of them and many of us said that this inverted rubbish was a huge problem for starters.
Now, the bubble has burst and this has been coming. Scapegoating players is futile based on the current facts laid out at this point cos I ain't got the stomach for it. For now, the season is over for me so I look forward to the players finishing the season strong and giving Klopp the farewell and parade (if possible) he deserves cos in spite of all of his mistakes, he kept ALL his promises, even those I never heard him make. Klopp leaves us in a good position and the club in a much better place than he found it. That and MANY other things, will always be to his credit, IMO.
{Ed001's Note - that is a good point, he has left us in a much better place.}
27 Apr 2024 09:30:25
Ed001. It was hard reading that review and i think you held back a bit. I've found the last few weeks bizarre. Do you think lack of leadership has been a problem for us? I've just seen heads go down. I look at Klopp and he's sarcastically smiling or berating the 4th official, instead of leading his team.
I don't think we have enough characters in that team. Mane, Firmino, Hendo, Milner, Fabinho all had an element of that in how they played the game. I can't see any of them characters in this team.
It was no coincidence when the kids came in the team, that the older players had to lead and help them. Since they've been left out, we've reverted to type.
It's possible I'm over thinking.
{Ed001's Note - it is just what happens when a manager is going, once the wave of wanting to him for him runs out, then it becomes a struggle.}
27 Apr 2024 09:30:25
Ed001. It was hard reading that review and i think you held back a bit. I've found the last few weeks bizarre. Do you think lack of leadership has been a problem for us? I've just seen heads go down. I look at Klopp and he's sarcastically smiling or berating the 4th official, instead of leading his team.
I don't think we have enough characters in that team. Mane, Firmino, Hendo, Milner, Fabinho all had an element of that in how they played the game. I can't see any of them characters in this team.
It was no coincidence when the kids came in the team, that the older players had to lead and help them. Since they've been left out, we've reverted to type.
It's possible I'm over thinking.
{Ed001's Note - it is just what happens when a manager is going, once the wave of wanting to him for him runs out, then it becomes a struggle.}
27 Apr 2024
27 Apr 2024 09:48:52
Ed001, no, I'm talking about Peter Krawietz and the words he used after we won the League.
If you're talking about high intensity, that's another thing and Klopp himself has said himself that the "heavy metal" thing was a "joke". He also admitted to talking a lot "sh*t" when he was younger.
It may seem pedantic to bring it up but we have won something in the last couple of years.
{Ed001's Note - yes, we won something this season. I was being as obtuse as you. It is irrelevant what Klopp said, it has become the label applied to refer to the high-intensity football he brought with him.}
27 Apr 2024
27 Apr 2024 09:48:52
Ed001, no, I'm talking about Peter Krawietz and the words he used after we won the League.
If you're talking about high intensity, that's another thing and Klopp himself has said himself that the "heavy metal" thing was a "joke". He also admitted to talking a lot "sh*t" when he was younger.
It may seem pedantic to bring it up but we have won something in the last couple of years.
{Ed001's Note - yes, we won something this season. I was being as obtuse as you. It is irrelevant what Klopp said, it has become the label applied to refer to the high-intensity football he brought with him.}
27 Apr 2024
27 Apr 2024 08:46:40
Are people still talking about heavy metal football? Klopp used the term over ten years ago when he was Dortmund boss. I think it was a flippant remark comparing his style to Wenger's orchestra style.
What does the term actually mean? Has Klopp explained what he meant?
If I remember when we started to play a more "controlled" game- the word used by his assistant at the time- we won the League, CL, FA Cup and League Cup.
Too much is being made of a jokey throwaway comment made by Klopp when he was manager of another club, in another league over ten years ago.
{Ed001's Note - are you for real? Or just being deliberately obtuse? His assistant, I guess you are referring to motormouth Lijnders, was talking nonsense. We won the league etc by playing high intensity football, which is why his own book was entitled Intensity. It is the last couple of years that we have been more controlled and won f all.}
27 Apr 2024
27 Apr 2024 08:25:21
Good read Ed1.
I can’t help but think a huge part of Klopp feeling exhausted is that if not for city (cheating or not? ) he would have won another 2 titles most likely.
It must be exasperating to get 94 and 97 points in two seasons only to lose the title in the last day by a point.
It’s true that watching Liverpool for the last couple of years has been a lot less enjoyable since we switched tactics. Even wining games, it’s rarely a truly enjoyable experience to watch (does that sound spoilt? ), hopefully you get what I mean.
I was devastated when Klopp announced his departure and have ended up looking forward to it as it’s so clearly time for a change (which funnily enough is also a bit devastating weirdly)
{Ed001's Note - thanks Shaq. I am looking forward to the future now, but I will miss Klopp.}
27 Apr 2024
27 Apr 2024 08:06:49
This post perfectly echoes my feelings.
I think as a fan base and club we hang onto things for too long because we're sentimental
Houllier stayed a season longer than he should. So did Rafa. Torres and Gerrard both stayed about 6 months too long and now klopp. The one time the club were decisive was in sacking Brendan, we need to stop letting sunk cost determine our actions.
Had klopp gone two years ago he'd have gone out a hero and with everyone missing him. With time we still will but thanks to two years of awful football and little to no success everyone's feelings will be more of relief than anything.
I am not expecting the football to be anymore exciting under slot but we will probably win more. He has the same death by a thousand passes approach as guardiola which for me is very boring. If you watched city beat Brighton you'll know what I mean, never has 4-0 been so dull.
{Ed001's Note - I am with you on that, I find Guardiola's teams dull to watch.}
27 Apr 2024 07:52:21
Hi Ed001. Great review of the derby game mate. I agree regarding the Klopp and Linders situation - this has been coming for so long it's almost painful. I am genuinely sad to see Klopp go, however, I am actually relieved that Linders is going. I just hope that Slot brings the return to our original Klopp-style of fast-paced play and this slow meaningless passing is well and truly ditched with Linders departure. Unfortunately, I just want the season to end now and give Klopp the send off he still deserves after giving us so much pleasure over the last few years. We are fans of the club and I am now looking ahead to the "Slot era" which I just hope brings back exciting play.
{Ed001's Note - thank you mate, fingers crossed for a good send off for him. I am sure the final day at Anfield will have a truly special atmosphere for him.}
27 Apr 2024 08:33:29
Worse case scenario if Allison were to leave who would be next in to replace the best?
27 Apr 2024 08:44:47
Spot on review. Agree with all points and feel so sad that Klopp won’t get the fairytale ending.
27 Apr 2024 09:41:45
Red Stan, have no fear, man. Lijnders will get his chance to manage soon and at that point, all talk he's been doing hiding behind Klopp and surfing on his achievements and hard-earned clout, will be over.
Then, we shall see if his coaching acumen and reflexes work as good as his mouth has been running overtime telling everyone how great he is. Looking forward to it, personally.
27 Apr 2024 07:52:21
Hi Ed001. Great review of the derby game mate. I agree regarding the Klopp and Linders situation - this has been coming for so long it's almost painful. I am genuinely sad to see Klopp go, however, I am actually relieved that Linders is going. I just hope that Slot brings the return to our original Klopp-style of fast-paced play and this slow meaningless passing is well and truly ditched with Linders departure. Unfortunately, I just want the season to end now and give Klopp the send off he still deserves after giving us so much pleasure over the last few years. We are fans of the club and I am now looking ahead to the "Slot era" which I just hope brings back exciting play.
{Ed001's Note - thank you mate, fingers crossed for a good send off for him. I am sure the final day at Anfield will have a truly special atmosphere for him.}
27 Apr 2024 08:33:29
Worse case scenario if Allison were to leave who would be next in to replace the best?
27 Apr 2024 08:44:47
Spot on review. Agree with all points and feel so sad that Klopp won’t get the fairytale ending.
27 Apr 2024 09:41:45
Red Stan, have no fear, man. Lijnders will get his chance to manage soon and at that point, all talk he's been doing hiding behind Klopp and surfing on his achievements and hard-earned clout, will be over.
Then, we shall see if his coaching acumen and reflexes work as good as his mouth has been running overtime telling everyone how great he is. Looking forward to it, personally.
27 Apr 2024 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Everton v Liverpool - A Quick Liverpool Perspective
27 Apr 2024 08:06:49
This post perfectly echoes my feelings.
I think as a fan base and club we hang onto things for too long because we're sentimental
Houllier stayed a season longer than he should. So did Rafa. Torres and Gerrard both stayed about 6 months too long and now klopp. The one time the club were decisive was in sacking Brendan, we need to stop letting sunk cost determine our actions.
Had klopp gone two years ago he'd have gone out a hero and with everyone missing him. With time we still will but thanks to two years of awful football and little to no success everyone's feelings will be more of relief than anything.
I am not expecting the football to be anymore exciting under slot but we will probably win more. He has the same death by a thousand passes approach as guardiola which for me is very boring. If you watched city beat Brighton you'll know what I mean, never has 4-0 been so dull.
{Ed001's Note - I am with you on that, I find Guardiola's teams dull to watch.}
27 Apr 2024 08:21:35
Completely agree,
It feels sad and wrong to be questioning Klopp after the man brought the club out of the doldrums, but it is clear that he's lost his mojo.
One of the more frustrating things, is it is so obvious the tactics don't suit, and earlier we'd go back to the thing that worked, but now we just seem to plod on regardless.
you would hope that now the new man is more or less confirmed, the players sit up and put in the effort and play to impress, but we also need the tactics to suit them.
The way it is going at the moment I'm worried for losses at West Ham and Villa, a draw against spurs, and a cagey win over Wolves.
27 Apr 2024 08:25:21
Good read Ed1.
I can’t help but think a huge part of Klopp feeling exhausted is that if not for city (cheating or not? ) he would have won another 2 titles most likely.
It must be exasperating to get 94 and 97 points in two seasons only to lose the title in the last day by a point.
It’s true that watching Liverpool for the last couple of years has been a lot less enjoyable since we switched tactics. Even wining games, it’s rarely a truly enjoyable experience to watch (does that sound spoilt? ), hopefully you get what I mean.
I was devastated when Klopp announced his departure and have ended up looking forward to it as it’s so clearly time for a change (which funnily enough is also a bit devastating weirdly)
{Ed001's Note - thanks Shaq. I am looking forward to the future now, but I will miss Klopp.}
27 Apr 2024 08:46:40
Are people still talking about heavy metal football? Klopp used the term over ten years ago when he was Dortmund boss. I think it was a flippant remark comparing his style to Wenger's orchestra style.
What does the term actually mean? Has Klopp explained what he meant?
If I remember when we started to play a more "controlled" game- the word used by his assistant at the time- we won the League, CL, FA Cup and League Cup.
Too much is being made of a jokey throwaway comment made by Klopp when he was manager of another club, in another league over ten years ago.
{Ed001's Note - are you for real? Or just being deliberately obtuse? His assistant, I guess you are referring to motormouth Lijnders, was talking nonsense. We won the league etc by playing high intensity football, which is why his own book was entitled Intensity. It is the last couple of years that we have been more controlled and won f all.}
27 Apr 2024 08:49:40
Just reading the first couple of paragraphs is exactly how I feel as well Ed’s. We all adore Klopp and to say that am looking forward to a new manager feels like am betraying him but your right he should have gone when he felt the time was right and not get talked into it by the fans/ team or his wife. They say that you never stop learning and am sure Klopp has learnt from this experience. I still love the bloke am wish him all the very best in the future what ever that mite be. My only hope now is that we definitely finish in a champions league place. YNWA Klopp!
27 Apr 2024 09:38:40
Ed01, that was not a match review, mate. That was a full-blown autopsy of our season (if not a proper therapy session) and frankly if we are being honest, we knew this the whole time but as fans are allowed to be, we were in a great position so well, we just ran with it and who could blame us?
"He has brought so much joy that it is not that I begrudge him the money or wanting a break, I am annoyed that he stayed too long. Instead of dreading him going, I am now actually just looking forward to it all being over. It is a shame because it should not be that way after all he has achieved. It should be like when he left Dortmund and the BVB fans were just broken-hearted. Instead it is almost going to be a relief. "
Mate, that hurt. It hurt really bad to read that, man. Klopp's blindspots and loyalty to Lijnders has done us in for the second season running. I knew we were not a great team, for sure but I thought our mentality and desire to prove the doubters wrong was fueling us to the top and with players coming back, we would improve. As you said, we were top in spite of the tactics rather than because of them and many of us said that this inverted rubbish was a huge problem for starters.
Now, the bubble has burst and this has been coming. Scapegoating players is futile based on the current facts laid out at this point cos I ain't got the stomach for it. For now, the season is over for me so I look forward to the players finishing the season strong and giving Klopp the farewell and parade (if possible) he deserves cos in spite of all of his mistakes, he kept ALL his promises, even those I never heard him make. Klopp leaves us in a good position and the club in a much better place than he found it. That and MANY other things, will always be to his credit, IMO.
{Ed001's Note - that is a good point, he has left us in a much better place.}
27 Apr 2024 09:39:21
Can’t believe all this negativity being given out to klopp. Yes the style of play has changed but it is still a style of play that has had us creating enough chances to win games at a canter. Its hardly klopps fault that our forwards have been missing chance after chance the last two months, these are the same players who up until then had been putting the chances away. If we had scored some of the dozens of chances we create in games then we would not be having this conversation, we would be several points clear and giving klopp the farewell he deserves instead of this undeserved critism which is frankly a disgrace!
27 Apr 2024 09:48:52
Ed001, no, I'm talking about Peter Krawietz and the words he used after we won the League.
If you're talking about high intensity, that's another thing and Klopp himself has said himself that the "heavy metal" thing was a "joke". He also admitted to talking a lot "sh*t" when he was younger.
It may seem pedantic to bring it up but we have won something in the last couple of years.
{Ed001's Note - yes, we won something this season. I was being as obtuse as you. It is irrelevant what Klopp said, it has become the label applied to refer to the high-intensity football he brought with him.}
27 Apr 2024 10:09:04
Nice review ed, not harsh enough in my opinion.
I read something that terrified me yesterday. Apparently slot is closed friends and although he prefers a high line pressing approach similar to Ange, apparently more pressing than klopp.
The scary thing was he prefers a sideways possession game and dominating possession. Linders ball?
27 Apr 2024 10:12:35
Ed001, I suppose it is a weak label based on what Klopp has since said was a joke.
He did bring a high intensity brand of football with him but it evolved to a more controlled brand with more selective spells of high intensity and we won the CL and PL.
The season we won the League we had the best defensive record.
{Ed001's Note - I don't see the relevance in anything you are saying. You seem to be completely missing the point in your efforts to prove you are a superfan. The last two seasons have been dog muck and the intensity has vanished along with switching over to a tedious, turgid, controlled style of football. The only thing we have won, and that was a close run thing against an abysmal Chelsea side managed by a serial loser, was the League Cup. Not exactly a great return when you consider the way we flunked out of the FA Cup against an even worse Man Utd side.}
27 Apr 2024 10:16:08
This is what Peter Krawietz said, after we won the League, about us moving away from the so called heavy metal football, if anyone is interested:
Dominance and control, that’s what it’s about. It has always been in our approach to control football games in a dominant manner. That possibly distinguishes us from other teams. We try to dominate, even when we’re not in possession. Gegenpressing is not some wild chase after the ball, it’s predicated on a trigger, designed to minimise the opponent’s time on the ball. But the high individual quality of our players also allows us to control games in possession now, and to take up positions close to the ball, to be able to win it back again quickly if we do lose it.
Having more of the ball shouldn’t lead to you resting on the ball but it does look more… controlled. It allows you to move the opponent around. We’re not forced to go for goal in every move, we can take a more strategic line, switching the play, preparing spaces and attacking situations in a systematic fashion. Our team have made great strides in that respect, mostly due to their individual quality.
{Ed001's Note - what has this to do with anything? Krawietz is talking about what we wanted to see, not this dire Lijnders-ball we have ended up with over the last two seasons. Clearly you are too busy reading and not actually seeing.}
27 Apr 2024 10:18:14
Good read Ed1. People saying how dare fans questions Klopp. It comes more so out of frustration and sadness, not enjoyment. Well, at least it does for me. Sadness that we are seeing a legend go out in the manner that he is. Sadness that we don’t recognise who this version of him is anymore. Sadness that his mojo has completely gone. Sadness that he is making the same mistakes over and over and over again. And sadness that those fixable mistakes along with the players have cost us a number of trophies this season. Still a legend in my eyes for what he has achieved. But, he is not above the club and is not above criticism.
Like I said in a previous post. The man is human and not a machine. He told FSG in November that he was mentally exhausted. Either one of two things should have taken place at the point when he made them aware of his intentions to step down. One, he should have said he was leaving there and then. Two, FSG should have thanked him for his service and told him to leave as of immediate effect. The decision to stay on until the end of the season should never has been an option, and should have been taken out of Klopp’s hands. I maintain the stance that Both Klopp and FSG handled the situation completely wrong. An individual who is clearly mentally spent and is not fully focused has essentially been allowed to serve a 6 month notice period. And we are surprised it has seemingly filtered down to the players?
Personally it’s bittersweet for me. I will miss Klopp and will always remember the good times. He is a legend in my eyes, there are no two ways about it. I mean, the year we won the league and the 2/ 3 years before that when we ran City close, we were simply unstoppable. But we simply ain’t that team anymore and if we are having an honest conversation without emotions and sentiments, we haven’t been that team for some years now. And as the sayings go, nothing lasts forever and all good things must come to an end. Klopp’s time at Liverpool has run its course and I’m really looking forward to this summer’s squad refresh and the future under Arne Slot.
27 Apr 2024 10:46:09
That was meant to say close friends with Pep linders never had my glasses on. I hope we don't have to suffer more linders ball.
27 Apr 2024 07:21:28
Great review of the Everton game Ed01. Totally summed up my feelings re Klopp. Feel a bit disloyal but can't help but feel he should have left a few years ago. I can completely understand why so many on here are criticising him. I feel a bit let down by him, which seems crazy really. I honestly just want the season to be over and the new manager to come in. I never thought I would think like this about Klopp as he made me a true believer again.
{Ed001's Note - it is horrible, it makes you feel sick inside.}
27 Apr 2024 08:09:38
As a side note - nobody should feel sick or bad about criticising klopp. When you can't criticise then you are basically a cult.
And someone else on here put it quite well - if the boss says he has nothing in the tank and can't be assed why should anyone expect more of the players?
That applies to fans too. We are fans of the club, when you work for the club that washes over you too, but the minute you stop working for the club you shouldn't expect undying support.
27 Apr 2024 08:51:43
Who is saying Klopp shouldn't be criticised, Nevada?
And Klopp didn't say I have nothing in the tank unless you have a quote that says otherwise.
Have you ever thought that the players might want to win the League for themselves? Do you really think they are only trying to win it for Klopp or because he tells them what to do?
27 Apr 2024 09:02:34
Great review Eds and pretty well sums up how I feel.
Watching the match I felt sorry for Salah, stuck out by the touch line with no support due to the inverting fullback, and hardly ever getting fed the ball, total waste of our game changer.
26 Apr 2024
26 Apr 2024 15:37:06
Edd001 what has happened to sob? He seemed a great buy and rolls Royce. Completely fell off and for a long time now. His antics against Everton didn't impress me atall either with the dramatics. Do you see him becoming a star for us?
{Ed001's Note - if we play him to his strengths and let him play at high intensity, then yes he will be good for us.}
26 Apr 2024
26 Apr 2024 13:03:08
Right, come on, Reds: who are the kids that we should play for the rest of the season and why?
Quansah, ok. Bradley is injured.
Have Danns, Clark, McConnell, Koumas etc done enough this season to start in the PL?
I've only seen glimpses of them in the League Cup, Europa and a few substitute appearances in the PL so I don't know how good they are and what they have achieved so far.
In my defence, the League Cup final was tense so I probably didn't notice them as much as I should have done.
{Ed001's Note - Danns has, McConnell was just starting to bed in and begin to play. The rest were at least trying to play forward, which is better than their replacements have been doing.}
26 Apr 2024
26 Apr 2024 11:32:16
Definitely out of form we know he has lost some pace but personally I think he could play the false nine better than Firminho create more chances for others and still able to chip in with goals. What say you ed001
Up the pool.
{Ed001's Note - not convinced he could play there and even less convinced he would do it better than Bobby did. I do think he could play a little deeper but not that role, not the way Bobby did it.}
26 Apr 2024
26 Apr 2024 11:43:36
Ed001 100% agree mate.
I'm not trying to defend the inverted full back system as i am just as frustrated as the next person with how we are playing.
I just don't think our defeats to Everton, Atalanta and Palace our our inability to finish our chances or defend and give away so many early goals is just down to the formation.
The 3 games mentioned above I can't remember the last time i saw this team look so carefree and lackluster whilst being behind.
Seen reports online that Klopp is wielding the axe this weekend with as many as 7 changes so will be expecting some of the youngsters to come in.
{Ed001's Note - none of the players who have come back in have performed, so it would make sense to turn back to the kids who did.}
26 Apr 2024 10:55:39
Hi Ed's
Do you think Salah's drop of form has coincided with Trent playing this awful invert fullback role. I have noticed when Bradley is playing, Salah seems to have more space as the defender is occupied with two player instead of one. Which gives Mo the extra space to do his stuff.
I know Mo has been awful the last few months but I don't think this inverted fullback tactic helps.
Would love to hear your opinion on this.
Thanks.
{Ed001's Note - that hasn't helped, but it is not the issue. It is not an inverted full-back that makes his touch so bad.}
26 Apr 2024 11:18:31
Mos finished everything comes to an end time to move on as not to tarnish his legacy.
26 Apr 2024 11:18:43
Didn’t Salah have good form at the start of the season when Trent was also playing the inverted full back.
I’m not sure how many of Mo’s 24 goals and 13 assists have come when we haven’t played Trent there?
{Ed001's Note - yes mate he did. The only real difference it makes to Salah is that he plays wider. But early in the season he was creating more chances for others and playing some good stuff.}
26 Apr 2024 11:32:16
Definitely out of form we know he has lost some pace but personally I think he could play the false nine better than Firminho create more chances for others and still able to chip in with goals. What say you ed001
Up the pool.
{Ed001's Note - not convinced he could play there and even less convinced he would do it better than Bobby did. I do think he could play a little deeper but not that role, not the way Bobby did it.}
26 Apr 2024 11:43:36
Ed001 100% agree mate.
I'm not trying to defend the inverted full back system as i am just as frustrated as the next person with how we are playing.
I just don't think our defeats to Everton, Atalanta and Palace our our inability to finish our chances or defend and give away so many early goals is just down to the formation.
The 3 games mentioned above I can't remember the last time i saw this team look so carefree and lackluster whilst being behind.
Seen reports online that Klopp is wielding the axe this weekend with as many as 7 changes so will be expecting some of the youngsters to come in.
{Ed001's Note - none of the players who have come back in have performed, so it would make sense to turn back to the kids who did.}
26 Apr 2024 13:03:08
Right, come on, Reds: who are the kids that we should play for the rest of the season and why?
Quansah, ok. Bradley is injured.
Have Danns, Clark, McConnell, Koumas etc done enough this season to start in the PL?
I've only seen glimpses of them in the League Cup, Europa and a few substitute appearances in the PL so I don't know how good they are and what they have achieved so far.
In my defence, the League Cup final was tense so I probably didn't notice them as much as I should have done.
{Ed001's Note - Danns has, McConnell was just starting to bed in and begin to play. The rest were at least trying to play forward, which is better than their replacements have been doing.}
26 Apr 2024 13:23:38
The last 2 afcons that have been held in jan and salah form has fell off a cliff afterwards. 2 years ago 1st half of season he was the best player in world for me and kept us in touch when we playing average enough. Team then had great run and a good rattle at quad but salh form not near what it was for remander of season. Same this time although wouldn't say he as good in 1st half of this season as hd was 2 years ago.
26 Apr 2024 13:29:30
Rigsby if the question was after my comment above mate then it wasn’t me saying we should be playing the youngsters.
It was more I’ve seen online as many as 7 changes. Looking at the bench wed and squad then I’m preempting that some youngsters will be involved.
But with Klopp subs on Wed o wouldn’t be surprised to see the same starting line up as Everton.
26 Apr 2024 13:31:27
Ed, crazy to think that we were winning games when we were playing the kids in the starting lineup. But the moment the first teamers got back from injury and inserted into starting eleven, everything started to fall off. It is supposed to go the other way around. I guess the kids just want it more.
26 Apr 2024 13:44:27
Mfahmee which kids were starting mate?
26 Apr 2024 14:00:01
No, it wasn't aimed at you, JK.
Even if we did make seven changes, it doesn't necessarily mean it'll be the kids. By kids, I mean Danns, Clark, McConnell etc anyway.
I just wondered what they had done that I hadn't seen.
At his press conference Klopp mentioned playing more positively and he could be expecting the senior players to do that. Why they wouldn't when behind in important games is strange though.
If the youngsters are ready then put them in but is there evidence that says they are?
26 Apr 2024 14:35:13
Rigsby i agree woth you as the youngsters have hardly played many league minutes this season apart from Bradley and Quansah but both have been in the team that failed to beat utd or Atalanta.
I was putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5 in regards to the 7 changes.
If 4 changes are the subs from Wed night then we should all strap ourselves in for a bumpy ride tomorrow.
26 Apr 2024 15:37:06
Edd001 what has happened to sob? He seemed a great buy and rolls Royce. Completely fell off and for a long time now. His antics against Everton didn't impress me atall either with the dramatics. Do you see him becoming a star for us?
{Ed001's Note - if we play him to his strengths and let him play at high intensity, then yes he will be good for us.}
26 Apr 2024 15:49:13
JK23, I'm thinking maybe Danns. With how our forward line is firing blank right now, there is no harm in playing him. See what can he do as a starter. In midfield, McConnell maybe and Elliot.
26 Apr 2024 16:03:50
Sob is hiding in games. As Klopp says he is not telling the players don’t work hard, don’t press. He is a counter pressing manager, it’s just the players aren’t doing as instructed. Not just Sob but he is one of the worst atm. Lack of desire, energy, playing it safe, making wrong decisions. I hope next season he shuts his mouth and puts more effort into becoming a much better all round player.
26 Apr 2024 16:55:14
If we get slot and play szob as a 10 rather than an 8 I think we will see the best of him but attitude needs to change as does a lot of the lads if they want to be the best.
26 Apr 2024 20:12:40
It’s not that the kids have “done enough” to be starters for a title chasing team. It’s just that they've done enough that I want to see what they can do with an extended run in the team.
The way the first team are playing, we’re not winning many more games so the title is a very long shot.
Even more of a long shot is not finishing in the top 4.
Therefore we have little to lose by playing them in my opinion. You’ll never know what they can do unless you give them a chance.