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27 Jul 2023 17:21:44
Bradley omitted from the Singapore squad. Most likely a loan for him, it seems.

thekoparmy

1.) 27 Jul 2023 17:49:09
Bit of an odd move. Unless someone like Llorente is coming in.


2.) 27 Jul 2023 17:53:40
Must be going for Llorente then if that's the case? No chance we lose both him and Ramsay out on loan without a back up. Gomez is not a sufficient back up.


3.) 27 Jul 2023 18:15:58
Just signed him to a new deal, often signals an upcoming loan out.


4.) 27 Jul 2023 18:26:31
Ed’s do you have an idea why we are potentially loaning him out? Surely leaves us a bit shorter in that area even more so?

{Ed001's Note - makes no sense.}


5.) 27 Jul 2023 18:46:37
My guess is we buy someone like Pavard. Disappointed though as Bradley looks a good option.


6.) 27 Jul 2023 18:58:05
Not travelling because of minor injury.


7.) 27 Jul 2023 19:13:38
Apparently he has an injury nothing serious just enough to keep him out of the next few games.


8.) 27 Jul 2023 19:44:38
I know bolton really really would like him on loan again.


9.) 27 Jul 2023 19:45:48
Thiago, Baj and Fab haven’t travelled with the squad either.

Obviously the first 2 are still in rehab and looks like
fab deal must be close.


10.) 27 Jul 2023 22:46:47
Maybe sitting on a Llorente or Kimmich deal until we get the Lavia deal over the line?


11.) 28 Jul 2023 08:45:02
Obviously, it's never good when a player is injured, but I'm relieved that is the reason he's not in the squad. Hoping to see him get some games under his belt for Liverpool this season.


12.) 28 Jul 2023 12:00:29
He's not going anywhere he's staying in Liverpool for treatment. No point an injured player traveling thousands of miles when he could be doing physio.


 

 

29 May 2023 11:16:42
Has anyone actually seen Ugarte play regularly to know how he will fit into our team, if he were to join. Because I have seen a lot of disappointment over not being able to sogn him, but I really want to know was it worth it evenif Klopp didn't tap him up. I don't really trust in stats that much, because they could have many different interpretations?

thekoparmy

{Ed002's Note - Ugarte is not moving to Liverpool.}


1.) 29 May 2023 12:04:56
Why do people keep going on about ugarte ed2 has explained over and over
He’s not coming neither is Bellingham, let’s just see who arrives and some good ole rumours.


2.) 29 May 2023 12:45:25
Fatwallet I was trying to make the same point. A lot pf people are clamouring fpr his signature which Ed002 has already told will not happen. I just want to know why the clamour?


3.) 29 May 2023 13:11:43
Cheers mate it wasn’t meant to knock your question just a genetic answer
I’m the same as all on here just got to wait and see and trust ed2 and other posters, what will be will be.


 

 

07 Dec 2017 10:05:39
Hey eds02,
Perr Schuurs has signed for AJAX. What did LFC do to scupper the deal this time?
Thanks.

thekoparmy

{Ed002's Note - Perr Schuurs had four firm offers and decided the one which would suit his career best.}


1.) 07 Dec 2017 10:16:49
Fair play to the lad for showing a humbleness that too many young players don't have. He looked very likely to sign for us at one stage, but who can blame him for going for first team football over money? Respect.


2.) 07 Dec 2017 10:33:30
we weren't offering him first team football, i think he made the best choice, assuming he gets his chances to play, but im sure he will.


 

 

25 Jun 2015 03:54:53
Hey eds are the pako rumours true?
If yes the Imo it would be great.

Thanks and keep up the good work :-D

thekoparmy

{Ed001's Note - he is certainly under consideration at least. Though it would be a strange step as an assistant after he has had success in management recently. He is a Liverpool fan though, after all he was the one who talked Rafa into taking the Liverpool job initially. To be honest though, right now no one but FSG knows what is really going on and people are just guessing.}


1.) 25 Jun 2015 07:56:06
Hi Eds is Rodgers job still currently under review? Are has he been given time to turn things around?

{Ed002's Note - It really isn't like that - I have spent the entire season explaining and still you just can't see it.}


2.) 25 Jun 2015 09:11:26
Ed002 has continuously said that FSG will do what is in the best interest of the club. Clearly they have not and will not say anything until they feel the need too but the silence from the club and Rodgers is very odd so we shall have to wait and see. It is like Ed001 suggests, a guessing game.


3.) 25 Jun 2015 09:22:46
so is it as you suspected and a DOF is being brought in, effectively relieving Rodgers of a lot of control ? If so, i then presume he's accepted it and agreed to work under this kind of structure ?

Wonder who made the call on these latest transfers then

All very interesting, could even speculate that Rodgers has been potted and someone is instructing under the radar. Pure conspiracy theory stuff that though, but here's hoping. I'm less skeptical of Rodgers then most on here but if it were for Klopp .

{Ed002's Note - You are simply making this stuff up.}


4.) 25 Jun 2015 11:26:30
What has this nonsense got to do with anything? Rodgers has actually been given MORE say in the transfer dealings. I suppose aliens built the pyramids and Elvis killed JFK?


5.) 25 Jun 2015 12:12:38
Kev, it's actually the other way round ;-)


6.) 25 Jun 2015 10:42:43
Try and be kind ed002 the kids get a bit excited at times like this lol


7.) 25 Jun 2015 14:15:36
What, elvis built the pyramids ?


8.) 25 Jun 2015 15:09:32
No, silly - the aliens built JFK.


9.) 25 Jun 2015 18:26:56
Course I was making it up, that's why I said conspiracy theory stuff. But Rodgers has disappeared off the face of the planet. I remember last summer he was always commenting on players we bought. Started with lambert in very early June. A dof structure is very possible.


10.) 25 Jun 2015 22:28:30
Well thank dog somebody has told Rodgers to shut his piehole, although I think he's only disappeared off the face of your planet, whichever one it may be that you're on. I think we would know if a DoF had been employed by LFC, unless it's the invisible guy with the radioactive superpowers again, he does get around.


 

 

27 Jan 2015 17:32:34
are these demarai gray rumours true?
nd how is he as a player?

ny better dan ibe? Or perhaps realistically ojo?
Thanxs nd keep up d good work

thekoparmy

 

 

 

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22 Jun 2024 10:21:39
England Flag with Stadium

thekoparmy has written an article entitled, Comments On England And Trent

thekoparmy

1.) 22 Jun 2024 10:58:56
26 man squad and 1 left footed defender who is injured. Could have brought Mitchell from palace. Trippier cuts in and Foden cuts in so
Nobody on left it’s pathetic, never seen worse management ever.


2.) 22 Jun 2024 11:08:11
Colonel while on the other hand, The Waist Coat selects about 3 or 4 players who can ALL play right back. Make sense of that, if you dare.


3.) 22 Jun 2024 11:11:18
Waist Coat loves right backs Oli.


4.) 22 Jun 2024 11:41:07
Well apparently to a lot on here Gomez was outstanding at Left back so what’s the issue?‍♂️.


5.) 22 Jun 2024 12:06:29
You know it, SR. Gomez, Trent, Trippier, Walker and pretty sure if I looked harder, I would find a couple more. Oh wait, Konsa from Villa so that's 5.

Still digging, tho cos there's a 6th one somewhere in that unbalanced squad of his.


6.) 22 Jun 2024 12:11:37
But Gomez is obviously not in GS plans and only there as an emergency! Has he got to that stage yet, only he knows? If I see Trent playing a double pivot with Rice again, I know GS days are numbered.


7.) 22 Jun 2024 12:57:51
How’s he not in Southgate’s plans? Gomez made the squad didn’t he? I mean he’s not there to carry the kit and if both LBs are unavailable, isn’t that an emergency?


8.) 22 Jun 2024 13:30:17
Southgate is not going to be England manager for another major tournament cycle anyway Keith. I think he'll quit if he's not sacked.


9.) 22 Jun 2024 14:15:18
Isn’t it an emergency if tripper is playing!


10.) 22 Jun 2024 15:53:30
Or a miracle if Shaw plays - he is still training on his own. Real waste of space on the bus. Mind you he isn’t much better when he isn’t injured.


11.) 22 Jun 2024 17:29:27
I thought Southgate had a contract waiting for him to sign. It's up to him to decide to walk away. I don't think he'll sign but the worrying thing is the England hierarchy don't see what 99% of everyone else does.
Can't wait for him to rock up at Old Trafford as the ETH replacement in December.


 

 

30 Nov 2023 23:18:03
I would really like to give a shout out to the work being done at the academy since the past decade or so. Earlier, most of the players that came through (like Flanagan, and Spearing), while no disrespect to them, they didn't really look like people who could be PL regulars. However, now we seem to producing much better talent. We have Trent and Curtis who are obviously first teamers.

Then there's Kelleher, who could be a starting keeper for a PL club. And now, we have Bradley, Chambers, and Quansah who all seem to pass the eye test in the very least and look like guys who could potentially have long careers with us. There's also Morton, and I hope I am not forgetting anyone else. And this is not including the guys we got from other academies before applying the finishing touches like Elliott, Bajcetic, and Doak. It's always great to see academy players getting a chance, and I hope long this may continue.

thekoparmy

1.) 01 Dec 2023 18:30:06
Hear, hear. Finally a voice from the majority (judging by the number of likes) . Was getting sick and tired of reading how pathetic our academy is and how we scrounge around for players from other academies.


2.) 01 Dec 2023 20:51:41
Good timing on this post with the announcement that N. Irish international Conor Bradley has just signed a new long-term deal with the Reds. He looked confident and assured the other night in his second half cameo against LASK. High hopes for the lad!


3.) 01 Dec 2023 22:29:41
Also think of the revenue they have generated.


4.) 02 Dec 2023 09:58:17
KingCarlos - what revenue have they generated?

What do we consider our academy prospects? Quansah and Chambers have been here since early teens. Bradley and Baj arrived as late teens. Do they all count as what we’d consider as our academy developed players?


5.) 02 Dec 2023 17:47:37
Quansah will be a top top centre back, we are so lucky to have him coming thru, I wonder who he is thought to replace, Matip, or VVD, my thinking is Matip first, then VVD, in a couple of seasons, he is that good .


 

 

04 Nov 2023 19:23:06
I can't really believe it's not corruption at this point. How that goal stood is beyond my comprehension. Such a joke.

thekoparmy

1.) 04 Nov 2023 19:39:35
Arsenal should just get over it.

That's what we were told after the Spurs game, at least.


2.) 04 Nov 2023 20:01:10
It's a disgrace and an embarrassment.

Ha Ha Ha Ha.

Arteta is a disgrace. Not just because of what happened today, but because of his style of getting his players to cheat to get an advantage

Was it a disgrace that Havertz didn't get sent off, was it a disgrace that Vieira goes down holding his face after being pushed in the shoulder?

Football is becoming a game of moaners and groaners who throw their toys out of the cot at every opportunity that goes against them.

I can understand why the goal was given, there is no way that any of those incidents were clear cut in terms of being dissallowed.


3.) 04 Nov 2023 20:02:32
Looked miles out I thought.


4.) 04 Nov 2023 20:21:22
It looked miles out to me too. But the biggest joke was the Guimaraes assault on Jorginho. If I do that to someone on the street, it might very well get me booked. But he somehow escapes any card.


5.) 04 Nov 2023 20:30:57
Was extremely tough that.

It did look out but it’s not the best camera angle. Newcastle fans say it’s not a foul whilst arsenal fans will say it was.

The offside was tight but they didn’t draw lines.

I thought Guimeraes should have been sent off more than Havertz for his elbow off the ball.

The Havertz tackle if his lead foot takes the player is dangerous and red but it’s his trail foot that makes contact and you see about 20 of them a game every weekend in grass roots.

Players are too pampered and cry babies these days. As little as 20 years ago when tackles were allowed it’s hardly like there were career ending tackles happening regularly.


6.) 04 Nov 2023 20:49:44
They all had a chance to call it out after the spurs game and make a concerted effort to change things. They backed the officials and you reap what you sow.


7.) 04 Nov 2023 21:11:45
Arsenal looked crap to me tonight.


8.) 04 Nov 2023 21:32:20
The whole of the ball over the whole of the line. Didn’t see conclusive proof to show otherwise. Arteta a disgrace as per.


9.) 04 Nov 2023 21:36:14
Lots of talking points in that game and yet again the officials are the stars of the show.

The ball looked out but without a camera directly above the ball it’s impossible to say with any certainty that it was. In that case VAR has to go with the on field decision.

Was it a foul? Another subjective decision and the ref didn’t give it and it was clear and obvious so they can’t give it.

The offside is the one Arsenal should be most aggrieved with. Raya is passed Gordon so the only defender in between him and the goal is Gabriel. Then you have to see if Gordon is in front of the ball when it comes off Joelinton. The only camera angle VAR have is behind Joelinton so they can’t see the ball to put lines up so they give the goal.

For me you can clearly see that Gordon’s knee is ahead of Joelinton so has to be ahead of the ball which renders him offside. The ball comes off Joelinton’s left thigh so it’s not too difficult to work out where the ball is. But I suppose if the can’t see it they can’t give it.

It will be compared to the Diaz goal but the officials have given the decision they thought was right at the time. As we all know with Diaz’s goal they gave the correct decision and failed to see it implemented. Totally different scenario.

As others have said though, suck it up Arsenal that’s what we were told and ours was a million times worse than that.


10.) 04 Nov 2023 21:36:45
The Havertz "tackle " had the potential to be a career ender. Off the ground, straight leg, and studs showing, red card all day every day.


11.) 04 Nov 2023 21:52:56
WYred, I said the same thing after our Spurs game. I was sure farcical decisions would continue, and they have, and more will come before the season is over.

The goal should have been disallowed because the ball certainly looked like it had gone out. In earlier seasons they were using both vertical and horizontal lines for judging offsides, with little regard to the angle of the shot. If they had done that here, they could have confirmed the ball was out. The "circumference of the ball" nonsense spouted is just to placate the fans. Even Dermot Gallagher stated that the ball was out post match. And the foul by Guimaeres was pure assault. He got to Jorginho so much later after the ball had already been passed off, that I still don't understand that non-call even now. And how do you land on a player's head with forearm and elbow when you're not even in the air and there is no momentum carrying you forward with that arm action, other than your intentions to inflict pain?


12.) 04 Nov 2023 22:13:33
Something Red, exactly. We warned them about this. We warned those Arsenal fans telling us to suck it up and keep it moving or better yet, "cry more" but they wouldn't listen. So they should take their own advisce and do the very same things they told LFC to do when we were fihhting for justice and transparency.

That said, the officiating was a shambles on both sides. How Guimaraes and Havertz finished that game, I will never understand. As for Arteta, I am hoping he will be getting the same treatment as Klopp got for berating the officials. His GK is worse than Ramsdale and Havertz is a dud. His tactics and inability to change things up? No comment.

And frankly, Arsenal did not deserve to win the game cos they did not take enuff risks. Newcastle were not good either BUT they went for it continuously and as they say, fortune favors the brave.


13.) 04 Nov 2023 23:33:12
The ball wasn’t out and Havertz wasn’t a red, he caught him with his trailing foot that wasn’t high. Football has gone far too soft if people think that’s a red. There will be no contact soon.


14.) 05 Nov 2023 07:15:11
I love the idea of being booked for assaulting someone in the street Koparmy ?.


15.) 05 Nov 2023 08:11:53
Mikel Arteta after Liverpool had a rightful goal disallowed v Spurs:

“They are trying to make the best decisions. We need to understand that mistakes happen. ” ?

Karma is a bitch!


16.) 05 Nov 2023 08:41:23
Arteta and Arsenal fans need to think about how annoyed they are right now with that goal being given.

Then they need to imagine that the VAR had said the ball was out and it’s no goal but miscommunicated that to the ref and the goal was mistakenly given.

Then the VAR has sat there and said ‘I can’t do anything’ knowing that an illegal goal had just been given.

Then and only then can they come close to what happened to us at Spurs.

{Ed001's Note - you forgot about all the other fans then telling them to stop whining and that it is only Arsenal so who cares?}


17.) 05 Nov 2023 08:50:38
Mark, Havertz could have been sent off for a second yellow on his challenge on Wilson where he gets the ball BUT cleans him out. Bruno should have been sent off at least twice over as well hence, my view that both should/ could have been sent off.


18.) 05 Nov 2023 09:10:55
Oh the irony. We were all told to “pipe down and get on with it” because mistakes happen after the Spurs VAR debacle. Now subjective decisions with and understandable reasoning as to why the goal wasn’t disallowed and Arteta is embarrassed to be playing in this league. Maybe when every club in the league feels as aggrieved as we did a few weeks back they will realise a bit of solidarity could have made a difference when it mattered at objectively one of the worst decisions made in the premier league era.
In the meantime I look forward to telling Arsenal fans, and fans of any other team on the recovering end going forward to “pipe down and get on with it. ”.


19.) 05 Nov 2023 13:22:19
So I have actually watched it back and I think you can make an argument for the refs and how they got to the decision.

The ball ‘going our’ looks out on some angles and in on others. There is no conclusive proof so you need to stick with the officials.

The foul isn’t given due to the way the Arsenal defender goes down. He exaggerates the move calling into question the force of the challenge. Side note on this, MOTD whine about slowing things down, then proceed to slow it down to back up Keown.

And the offside the ball appears to go backwards.

All are subjective decisions imo and it then comes down to the bar for clear and obvious. But nothing to warrant Artetas rant. Mere mistakes or different opinions.

As for the other decisions;

Havertz maybe should of gone but he was saved by where he made impact.

Bruno knows exactly what he was doing with the elbow and just got a way with it. On another day either of these could be red.

However this all comes down to managers and pundits putting aside their allegiance and calling it as it is. Until the Howes and Artetas come out and give a balanced view nothing will improve as one side will always be happy so the PGMOL don’t get the scrutiny they deserve.


20.) 05 Nov 2023 14:05:15
Ed01, you can add the incompetent Vincent Kompany to the list of managers who said what Arteta said after the PGMOL awarded Spurs the points vs us. He said the same thing and then, last wee he was crying about how he did not understand why VAR did not award his team the goal where Jay Rodriguez was judged to be offside. Trust me, they will ALL get what's coming to them for making self-serving comments like that.

And you know who I am most waiting for? The media hyped Ange Postecoglu who said the same thing after the Spurs heist, sticking the boot in and lecturing us to just accept that mistakes will be made, suck it up and move on. We will see what he comes out with when this happens to him cos we all know it will.


 

 

15 Sep 2023 13:35:35
Klopp handled the Hendo question very well I think.

thekoparmy

1.) 15 Sep 2023 14:18:08
Yeah I agree op I also thought it was quite interesting Klopp saying this isn’t year 8 this is year 1 of the new team.


2.) 15 Sep 2023 14:34:05
Anyone see klopp school James Pearce? He is an absolute tool!


3.) 15 Sep 2023 14:45:12
And yet people still treat Pearce like he's itk.


4.) 15 Sep 2023 17:55:48
you can actually see the contempt klopp has for Pearce.


5.) 15 Sep 2023 18:47:51
F hendo seriously he should’ve kept his mouth closed. Just harmed his legacy, milly on the other hand is exemplary.


6.) 15 Sep 2023 20:24:00
That's the thing about Mr. Klopp. If he doesn't like you, he makes sure you know it. I like it.

And in the case of Henderson and Milner, they made choices based on their perceived playing time. This shouldn't surprise anyone because it's a facor at both the beginning and end of careers. In Milner's case Brighton came along and for Henderson the Saudis came along. I hope Henderson gets his farewell someday, absolutely deserving.


7.) 15 Sep 2023 23:21:04
Hendo definitely deserves it aray.


8.) 16 Sep 2023 00:05:15
Me too ArAy, I love that ‘Are you being serious’ thing he does and the smile he has - it’s definitely his code for ‘You’re an idiot’.

@Longthing, agree with you on the year 1 comment. Love that attitude,

I also loved, really loved, his comment that the team need support whilst they are building to win things and not supporting the team because they have won things - I honestly think that’s one of the best things he’s said since he joined. It’s a comment that should be pinned to the top of the forum.

I have to say that for the first time since he said he was leaving at the end of his current contract I actually wondered if he will stay on. He seems pretty excited about the squad he’s building.


9.) 16 Sep 2023 01:12:00
I hope Henderson never has anything to do with Liverpool again.


10.) 16 Sep 2023 09:47:52
Really interesting comment from Jurgen after the presser - he said he’d stay to see Bobby Clark come through into the first team. Again, it made me think that if Liverpool 2.0 progress the way he wants them too he might be tempted to stay on. Whether he does or doesn’t you’d have to say that he sounds a lot happier this season that last season.


 

 

08 Sep 2023 11:34:34
Hey Ed001, if you are around. What's your take on Gerrard? Did you think he fulfilled his potential?
I only caught the latter years of his career, but from the highlights it doesn't seem there was anything he couldn't do. Maybe perhaps, he didn't have the super elite ball control of someone like Bernardo Silva, but apart from that I can't see any weakness in his game. He could pass, shoot, dribble, run all day, rise up to the occasion. I somehow feel he should have gone down as one of the greatest ever players to play the game, but I don't think he actually ended at that level. Perhaps, it's also a consequence of being part of poor teams which left his trophy cabinet relatively bare.

thekoparmy

{Ed001's Note - he had two problems imo. One was his ego. He was constantly told how great he was and it went to his head. The club would involve him in decisions, even to the point where he was choosing managers. That also caused him to refuse to play on the right for Liverpool because he thought he should play in the middle, even though he probably had the best season of his career on the right. That also led to the second issue.

His defensive awareness was almost non-existent. Everyone will rave about his last-ditch tackles, but completely ignore the fact that he was caught out not doing the defensive work in the first place which required him to make a needless tackle. If he had been alert to his defensive responsibilities, then the danger would have been averted long before it got into the box. It meant he was not as well-rounded a player as he could have been, as he was all about the glory and did not do enough to learn how to play defensively. As we saw when Rodgers attempted to play him deep, he was hopeless at defending, even though he was a very capable defender when he first emerged. So it was not a lack of ability that stopped him.

Actually there was one other thing that could be seen as a weakness, though at times it was also a strength. His tendency to shoot at every opportunity from all over the pitch. That desire for the glory that overrode what was best for the team. Yes it produced some incredible strikes, but most of the time it just wasted good possession by gifting it back to the opposition, though very few people remember the ones that missed. There were so many times that we would have a stack of people totally unmarked because the defence was rushing out to close him down knowing he would shoot. If he just had passed some of those times, it would have been better for everyone. Not just would it have created better opportunities for his teammates in better positions, but also the times he did shoot would have been easier for him because the defence wouldn't have closed down the space. They would have had to make sure to stick with the players in the box in more dangerous positions, giving him just that moment longer to make sure he hit his shot correctly.

For me he never achieved his potential. He should have been head and shoulders above any midfielder we ever had, but he never reached it. That was, imo, the club's fault for handling him with such kid gloves and treating him like he was the lord and master of all he surveyed, rather than just an incredibly talented footballer. He should never have been allowed to dictate his position to Rafa, he never attempted to do that for England. He played anywhere they asked, usually on the left out of position to accomodate the lesser talent of Lampard in the middle. If only he had felt the same way about playing for Liverpool and remembered it was a privilege not a right we might well be discussing whether he was in the top 10 of players all-time. Talent-wise there should never even be an argument about him, Scholes or Lampard, as Gerrard had the talent to do everything they could do and much, much more, as well as having the physicality that those two lacked.}


1.) 08 Sep 2023 12:22:57
His attempts to go for glory, probably also stemmed from the lack of trust in his teammates at most times. But yeah, seems a very well rounded summary. Thanks.
He will always be a Liverpool legend, but I just always get that feeling that he could have been much more.

{Ed001's Note - good point.}


2.) 08 Sep 2023 13:26:28
I always preferred Alonso myself. Thought he was world class and didn’t have the ego of Gerrard. Some might say this is blasphemy, but imagine the team we could have had if the club had sold Gerrard to Chelsea for a huge fee and let Rafa spend the money. Don’t forget we had Momo, Alonso and Mascherano as well so could have strengthened other areas. My son is of the generation that sees Gerrard as a god, but I’m old enough to remember some real legends like Rush, Kenny, Souness, Barnes. In that company he doesn’t seem much of a legend to me. Also I keep telling my son there is only one god. Thank Folwer for that.


3.) 08 Sep 2023 13:56:07
I disagree Bobby. He might have not fulfilled his potential, but he is still one of the best players to have ever played for us. He is among our top three players ever.


4.) 08 Sep 2023 13:20:11
Ed001 that’s a big problem when you have a player like that over a team of players working for each other. This has started happening more and more in football where certain players are being treat as bigger than clubs. Ronaldo had it at Madrid Messi at Barcelona in the end I think it’s not good for team spirit. The shooting was like that with Coutinho everybody raved about 25yarder he scored but seemed to ignore the other 30 he had before that went in when players were in space.
It’s only early to make this statement but for me szoboszlai like Gerrard with a far better team ethic and better football brain.
Fergy let Cantona get away with more than most but he never let it happen with Beckham and a few others. The Manager all ways has to be the biggest most important person otherwise the lunatics will take over the Asylum.

{Ed001's Note - Szoboszlai should be fine as he had a grounding at RB where it is always team first.}


5.) 08 Sep 2023 13:50:34
Ed, what was his best season for LFC and what other player formed the best partnership with him?

{Ed001's Note - his best season was on the right wing. Though playing behind Torres for a couple of seasons were close and it is arguable over which was better.}


6.) 08 Sep 2023 14:02:00
Trust Rafa! The same guy who forced Alonso out because he thought Gareth, Barry was better?


7.) 08 Sep 2023 14:23:31
You prefer Alonso who probably only had one good season for us over someone who carried the whole club on his shoulder for almost a decade. My god. If Gerrard had gone to Chelsea the guy would have won the Blon dor and 2-3 PL titles himself. for ten good years he was the face of the club. from Jude Bellingham to Alex OX Chamberlin, players idlozes Gerrard even today.
How can you forget that bullet header against Milan or that 40 yards strike against West Ham in the Cup final.
Gearrd was the most complete midfielder ever to play for us with the execption of Souness.


8.) 08 Sep 2023 14:35:44
I had to write a few more lines
For more than a decade with helsea, arsenal and UTD were dominating the league and we were under the leadership of legedary Hicks and Gillets. Gearrard was the only saving grace.
The man had to work with utter drosses for his entire footballing career execpt of few years (08/ 09 and 13/ 14). There is not a thing Gerrard couldn't do on a footabll pitch.
Talent wise the guy was head and shoulders above everyone in the league.
No wonder Carlo, Jose and other countless managers tried to sign him for more than one occasion.

No Liverpool fan would ever forget Steven Gerrard goal against Olympikaos (Watch it and tears will roll) .


9.) 08 Sep 2023 14:40:05
@thekoparmy - none of us are qualified to comment on the best Liverpool players ever unless you are about 160 years old. There is absolutely no way that Gerard is in the best 3 ever - he would struggle big time to make the top 10 in the last 50 - 60 years (the period I’ve been watching) .


10.) 08 Sep 2023 14:43:48
'Sell Gerrard and give the money to Rafa. '. I wouldn't rust Rafa with £10, let alone a few million, he was pretty awful in the transfer market!
Whilst I agree a lot with what Ed001 said, I also feel Gerrard gets unnecessary stick for playing in a terrible team. We were always 1 or 2 players short of a title winning team around that time which meant Gerrard carrying the team most of the time.
If money had been better spent, I think he would have flourished even more. Plus, he gave us some absolute belting moments!
He is also a very nice guy if you ever meet him in private.


11.) 08 Sep 2023 15:21:59
Gerrard probably thought that playing on the right might damage his england career, but I agree that season on the right he was amazing.


12.) 08 Sep 2023 15:40:24
Rafa was fine in the transfer market when he took a more active role in scouting himself. Even if the player didn't work out, they usually did enough that they could be re-sold at the same or a slightly greater transfer fee.

When he started delegating more of it to Eduardo Macia, he was in trouble. He apparently had never seen Dossena play a full game (just highlights) and couldn't believe how bad a player he was once he arrived.

As for Gerrard, it's hard to disagree with what Ed001 says. He had neither the positional sense or patience on the ball for a deep lying position. Not only did Rafa avoid putting him there, so did Houllier. He played on the right (nominally at least. Houllier wasn't known for having his midfield stretch the pitch) more often for Houllier, and when he was central, he usually had Hamann there to do the basics for him.

Comparatively free of defensive responsibilities though, either as a no. 10 or on the right, he was absolutely class and would rack up the thick end of 40 goals/ assists a season.


13.) 08 Sep 2023 16:00:28
Did my hodgson penalty miss not go through? Getting that man sacked and Kenny back probably saved us from relegation that season.


14.) 08 Sep 2023 16:02:23
Habibi, Alonso had more than one good season with us and proved he was world class during his career. Tosh66, Rafa didn’t force him out because he thought Barry was better. He pushed him out because he was subborn and fell out with him. I agree with www3, no way is Gerrard top 3. Who in their right mind would put him above Rush, Kenny, Barnes, souness or Hansen? So he doesn’t even get in the top 5.

I just don’t get this Gerrard love in, but I must admit, I can’t stand selfish players. Football is a team game and it is just not possible for one player to carry a team.


15.) 08 Sep 2023 16:48:46
Imagine he was making his debut next weekend.

Imagine what he could become in this team.

His legacy and work. its a big reason why we are successful today.

He kept the liverpool brand alive. As did the fans but having Gerrard. The best English midfielder out of Scholes and lampard and all the rest was massive for us.

Big reason why we have trent now for example. It all mattered. he kept us relevant. a lot more relevant than our teams had the right to be. - not the club. YNWA.


16.) 08 Sep 2023 16:59:16
Gerrard almost single-handedly delivered the 2005 champions league - remember the late strike to go through against olympiakos, and then the final itself? In that CL final, running back after one of the games, Gerrard was waving his arms to gear up the team and the crowd. You could see the team believing in him, and the fear in the AC Milan players faces.

That was Gerard in a team with a crook Harry Kewell, Baros, Djimi Traore…. vs an AC Milan squad with the likes of Nesta, Gattuso, Maldini, Seedorf, Kaka, Shevchenko etc.

He gave Liverpool belief through many dark years, holding things together with his quality. Yes there were the likes of Alonso and others during his time, but none stated for as long or so feared in my view.

That’s why he’s a legend to me.


17.) 08 Sep 2023 17:14:41
If I recall correctly Gerrard was voted by the fans as the second best player after Kenny on the LFC channel.
Brilliant player in his prime but stayed a season or two longer than he should.


18.) 08 Sep 2023 17:33:27
@TopG That penalty miss vs. Blackburn in Hodgson's last game was hilarious.

He looks at the bench. Back at the goal. Back at the bench. Fiddles with the badge on his chest for a few seconds. And then scoops the ball over the bar when he usually sent his penalties low. And Dirk gives him a rub on the head, as if to say: "Well done, Stevie. "


19.) 08 Sep 2023 23:10:55
There are always confusions between ‘best’ and ‘favourite’ and between ‘ever’ and ‘the x number of years I’ve been a Liverpool fan’.


20.) 09 Sep 2023 00:29:57
Perhaps the lack of real quality around him was the main problem. Imagine him having a Kante playing behind him, or a makalele, Roy Keane.


21.) 09 Sep 2023 00:56:55
Gerrard was very good; very good.
He wasn't Souness but he was very good.
And he did play with some top midfielders. Alonso, Mascherano, Sissoko, Hamann etc.
I think he was at his best when he played behind Torres. He had more freedom.
And let's not be giving Rafa loads of stick; especially about Alonso. Alonso was superb but he didn't hit it off straight at Liverpool and he had his injury worries. I think he got injured early on in his career with us against Chelsea (? ) and that didn't help him.


22.) 09 Sep 2023 11:03:39
Xabi started well at Liverpool and had little bit of a mid-career lull.

07/ 08 was his worst season in terms of form (and it wasn't exactly terrible) before he picked it up again in 08/ 09 and more fans than would admit it subsequently were in favour of selling him and bringing in Barry like Rafa wanted. Remember reading well into November of his last season stuff like: "Barry would've done everything Alonso did today and more. "


23.) 09 Sep 2023 12:29:28
We laud the LFC teams of the 70’s and 80’s. Great teams that won the lot. We laud Klopp and our recent teams for winning the lot.
If we put his personal accolades aside, which were extensive, Gerrard with LFC won everything that could be won except the league, in an era where Utd were dominant, Arsenal were a major force and money started to make competition more fierce with City and Chelsea buying everything up. That he won everything except the league basically on his own and came close second 3 times I believe in his LFC career, speaks for itself. Yeah there were a few great players here and there but he was the constant driving force that kept us in the conversation as a big club. I genuinely think that if Gerrard hadn’t of existed, LFC would have faded badly and wouldn’t even of been in a position to attract a manager of Klopp's calibre when we did.
He may not have reached his true potential, but I still don’t think that detracts from what he did achieve. Best LFC player ever for me. Just my opinion though.


24.) 09 Sep 2023 21:45:00
Supporting lfc about 35 years. gerrards the best i've seen, just ahead of Barnes.


 

 

 

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04 Dec 2023 13:22:11
Last few performances haven't been good from Salah. He is giving away the ball a bit too much right now. I just hope this is fatigue and not the start of a decline. I am also concerned by Diaz a bit. He is definitely not as explosive as he was before the injury, when he used to beat his man for fun. I really loved watching him glide past players, but now he gets dispossessed much more often while dribbling. I just hope his sharpness returns eventually as he trust his knee more and more.

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The deal's been confirmed by Caoimhe O'Neill. Says a three-year contract for the lad, with a buyback option included.
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Yeah, the ACLs have probably killed their chances for us. Same happened to Samid Yesil, I remember. Signed with so much hype, tore his ACL in the first few games, if I remember correctly.

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He will be a sensational signing, but he has shown his love for Real way too many times for him to even consider joining us.

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With all due respect, I don't think Trent was ever a wingback in the sense the term is generally used. Infact, if anything Robertson played like a wingback much more than Trent.
Our system was designed to enable him to put balls through the right channel and the right half-space. Generally these balls would be into the box, or would be swithces of play from right to left. Clearly, the idea behind moving him into midfield is to open up more passing options to him, as theoretically from a central position he can pass to both right and left. It also has a few downsides, as it pushes him further away from the opposition goal, so he is more of a facilitator rather than the final ball provider.
All in all, the best way to utilise him is to get him into positions where he has a little bit of time to play his passes. Ideally it would be as close to the opposition box as possible, while also allowing him to access the whole pitch. But you can't have your cake and eat it too. So whichever position he ends up playing, there would be some compromise.

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Good shout Ed025. I don't know if he walks into the team (as he is not a defensive midfielder, and is very similar to Macca, who is better right now), but he is someone I would take in a heartbeat.

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You are right Patrik. It seems everyone here knows more than most of the managers who actually work with these players. Szobo is dead awful apparently, yet the whole team is structured around him. He was magnificent in their qualifiers. It's just that Hungary don't have a very good team, and its much more difficult to drag a team alone in a major tournament.

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16 May 2024 18:07:56
The TAA hate here is crazy. He is our most talented player, and was as pivotal as Salah and VVD in our success. And he is still just entering his prime years. He is probably the best passer in the league, and just before he got injured people were even calling him as one of our PotS. Alas, memory is short in football. He has been underwhelming since his return, but so have been many. The muddled tactics don't help either. In the right system, he was a great right back, and I believe in the right system he will again be great. Slot's new ideas might just be what he needs.

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I don't think Saliba would do much better in this system either. Apart from the past few matches, since we have effectively been out of the title race, VVD had been great this season. Konate is also a pretty good CB especially 1v1, and Quansah looks special. I don't think we need a CB as much. However, we would massively improve if we had a DM like Rodri, or Rice. While being good Endo lacks both pace and press-resistance, and Macca is simply wasted as a 6. Maybe Bajcetic can grow into that elite DM, but he would need time. However, he is someone I have immense trust in, and it would be interesting to see how Slot uses him in pre-season.

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