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01 Sep 2023 16:17:15
Lots of talk from certain outlets about Al Ittihad upping their offer for Mo Salah, still no sign of an actual offer to upped in the first place anyway. Can't help but feel there is a lot of client journalism in play here.
1.) 01 Sep 2023 18:44:02
If 200 million is offered as spoken about for me there is only one option - sell!
We are set to finish this season in 2-6 place with or without Mo.
We will never ever replace him as a player, not now, not a month ago, not in January.
However!
We have been here before haven't we? Torres could not have been replaced. Same with Suarez. Same with Coutinho.
Common to allof them, the sun still shone next morning on Liverpool FC. We moved on and prevailed.
There are a lot of goals in this team already, great midfield and a defence that urgently needs to be fixed in the next few windows.
200 mill buys great fixes plus some decent bets on next level stars for attack (of the ilk of Salah when we got him from Roma. )
Just my 2 cents but for the record - I DO NOT want him sold.
Just really don't think is a huge deal if he is.
2.) 01 Sep 2023 18:58:14
£200m with a month to go is one thing, £200m with 4 hours is a no go.
3.) 01 Sep 2023 19:01:15
But we didn’t prevail when Suarez left? Or Torres? Only reason we did with coutinho was we spent money on 2 quality signings and we’ve got no time to buy a replacement.
4.) 01 Sep 2023 19:08:17
There is no rush to sell Salah they will still offer crazy money in January and next summer if we hold out. Mo is a good guy a sensible guy. Tell him “if you want to go okay but it’s going to be January deadline day or next summer deadline day” tell him fixed price £200m will be accepted on either of those two dates. That gives us 5 months to find players to replace him in January these would be players with fixed price clauses and players who have already confirmed they are up for the move if the clause is triggered. We hold all the cards unless Salah goes on strike which he’s so far showed no signs of. Their money will not go away their desire will not fade, the sale of Salah is now inevitable if he wants to go there but we can control when he goes there unless he strikes.
5.) 01 Sep 2023 19:26:52
As a fan I’d rather watch Salah play in a Liverpool shirt for the next 9 months than have £200 million sitting in the bank.
6.) 01 Sep 2023 19:33:32
If it’s a one payment of 200 million then it’s a no brainer to sell.
7.) 01 Sep 2023 19:31:36
200m 6 weeks ago probably gets you Rice Gvardiol and Diaby maybe. What does it get you on deadline day? an 80m bid rejected for Jarrod Bowen?
8.) 01 Sep 2023 19:47:29
Let me be clear I love mo Salah, as a 46 year old fan, for me he is the best player of my lifetime. However, at 31 he inevitably becomes more prone to serious injury, his pace begins to reduce and let’s be honest he will almost certainly go next summer anyway, and who can blame him? He has 5 years max at the top level, if he can earn 1 million a week and secure his great grandchildren’s financial security, who amongst us wouldn’t want that. So with the heaviest of hearts I’d say now is the time, if it’s 150 million, most of it upfront then it’s time. I’ll always count myself privileged to watch the man play, he is not just a club legend but a pl all time eleven and a great dude to boot.
{Ed025's Note - i dont think his great grandchildren will have any financial worries even if he packed football in tomorrow Hoody, the guy is a multi multi millionaire mate..
9.) 01 Sep 2023 19:59:37
200 million is not very useful when you're without a replacement until January and end up languishing in mid-table + out of cup competitions.
10.) 01 Sep 2023 20:16:17
Why do people care so much about 200 million they won’t see a penny of? I’d rather keep quality players and win something where as you lot seam to want to balance the books and sell players.
11.) 01 Sep 2023 20:21:34
Ed025 if they bid £200m you have got to sell he is 31 2 years left on his contract. If it was VVD still in his pomp I think is a harder decision but I think we have plenty of goals in are forward line and midfield. We are not city psg Chelsea or any of the other clubs that spend money for fun. There are still very good players out there that don’t cost the earth and with that money we can build our team for the next 10 years.
{Ed025's Note - you dont sell your best players is my motto grino, but imo its all smoke and mirrors anyway mate, if they were serious they would have come in a lot earlier to give Lliverpool the chance to replace him, im not buying it..
12.) 01 Sep 2023 20:31:28
My thoughts exactly Bean. Why are we all so worried about the money its performances on the pitch and results we should be worried about.
If you feel selling Salah will improve results then that’s your opinion but if you don’t you should never be saying we should sell no matter what money is reportedly being offered.
{Ed025's Note - im with you BP..
13.) 01 Sep 2023 20:32:49
There's a big difference between 2nd and 6th, despite what Shanks said.
14.) 01 Sep 2023 20:36:27
You think it’s like our bid for Caicedo a little pr stunt lol.
{Ed025's Note - i dont think Caicedo was a stunt grino, maybe a move to placate the supporters mate but not a stunt, the Salah bid stinks to high heaven of muscle flexing by the Saudi,s for me..
15.) 01 Sep 2023 21:28:10
Sell for 200 and replace with 20. come on Jurgen, you can do this.
16.) 01 Sep 2023 21:36:53
Mr bean I would take the £200m not because I will see any of it but we could sign 3/ 4 real quality players that would see are team transformed for the next 10 years. Nobody thought Salah was going to be the player he is and am sure there is more Salah’s out there. And in 2 years he will be gone for nothing so he will need replacing them with no money for him. I don’t know how long this Saudi league money is going to around but we need to make the most of it. Our owners do not splash the cash out of there own pockets so if we can get that sort of money for a 31 year old has to be accepted out of pure reality of what our club is.
17.) 01 Sep 2023 21:41:02
Great take 200m for salah as the English transfer window is about to shut FSG will probably buy a American netball team with it and klopp will get nothing in January rather keep the player for another season im sure they will be back next summer with a silly bid.
18.) 01 Sep 2023 21:41:59
I find the timing of the offer odd. If they were so intent on bringing him over to the league, why wait until the last day of the window to offer such an amount, also giving the selling club no time to replace? A strange tactic for me if you desperately want to sign him.
{Ed025's Note - im not having it either jones..
19.) 01 Sep 2023 22:01:42
I want to hear more about American netball!
20.) 01 Sep 2023 22:01:58
100% agree Ed025, simply if they prioritised Salah why didn't they go all out for him earlier in window?
People talking about the money, which is generational wealth but its essentially signalling the end of his top level career and various sporting objectives. Despite the obvious flirtation I can see him staying this season and possibly even next if we get back in champions league. He would still only be 33 and could easily still get the bumper Saudi money.
21.) 01 Sep 2023 23:55:29
The Saudi money isn't going to run out any time soon, we have no need to sell Salah this year. Its not like Madrid / psg are wanting him and will move on to someone else or want to pay way less next year. The Saudi league want his name as much as maybe the player. They will throw stupid money at us again next year if we keep refusing. Would also point out we would still have plenty of options with jota, gakpo, Diaz, Nunez, and a few others. Don't want Salah to leave tho.
22.) 02 Sep 2023 03:14:47
Why did they wait so long to bid?
I feel this will unsettle the team which is unnecessary.
LFC will have done well to keep Salah given the figures quoted, due to the timing of the bid.
23.) 02 Sep 2023 04:50:30
It's not chinese superleague where every team was throwing money around, I believe it's only 4 teams throwing stupid money around and they actually have foreign quotas too I believe,
Truth is, we need couthinho like infusion of money to rebuild the squad, I know one of the eds have said over and over we are against the wall at what we can spend and Matip needs replacing, VVD has not been the same since the injury, we will need to find long term Fabinho replacement, if you look at Klopps players, those that do a LOT of running like Robertson usually don't age well, more like fall off the cliff, so possibly Robertson replacement, and depending how you feel about current forwards, Salah replacement.
24.) 02 Sep 2023 10:06:18
Sell Salah then spend the next 9 months crying on here every day about how we don't score enough goals and how stupid we were to sell a generational talent just to get a big pile of cash.
It's amazing how money utterly blinds people.
25.) 02 Sep 2023 10:06:18
Sell Salah then spend the next 9 months crying on here every day about how we don't score enough goals and how stupid we were to sell a generational talent just to get a big pile of cash.
It's amazing how money utterly blinds people.
26.) 02 Sep 2023 12:44:39
I know it’s hopefully hypothetical but i would sell Salah for sure IF the money was invested in the team, which I think I would.
27.) 02 Sep 2023 14:48:36
Maybe the Saudi’s were a bit naive in their negotiations and just thought money talks?
I suspect that there will be some further talks and a deal agreed either for January lot next summer.
It might even be a different Saudi side…. But I think that they really want Mo as a poster boy for their league.
I would think if £200 million or more is offered for January then we will take it …. with some incomings lined up…. Andre, a Centre Back and maybe Bowen?
10 Aug 2023 11:25:48
According to Matt Law (not sure how reliable, basically Chelsea's James Pearce) Chelsea's Lavia bid came about because Liverpool have outbid them for Caicedo!
Interesting few hours ahead regardless of how true.
{Ed002's Note - Matt Law should be reliable but a £100M tit-for-tat bid would need more basis than Chelsea making another offer on a player Liverpool are keen on.}
01 Jun 2023 10:12:12
If the rumours are true, and we are looking at a summer of bringing in Mac Allister, Thuram, Kone and a new defender - then that will be the end of my moaning for good
As a fan it's all I can ask for, I don't want big flashy £200 million galactico signings or Man City stockpiling.
All I want us to do is go into every season with the belief we have prepared the squad as best as possible to compete for every trophy. However much that costs is not my concern. If we bring those players in, I would be confident in saying the squad doesn't really have any weaknesses in the squad if we bring all these lads in and we can be back up to where we were in 2022.
{Ed002's Note - It would be Thuram or Kone - not both.}
1.) 01 Jun 2023 10:31:47
We have lost 3 CM’s and another 3 are finished at this level (Hendo, Thiago and Fabinho) . Those three would revamp our midfield for years to come. I would be over cloud 9 if it happens. Got to get all three over the line plus a center back.
2.) 01 Jun 2023 10:44:58
Who do you prefer Ed2? Kone looks more agressive and a better ball winner Thuram look a bit tidier on the ball and better going forward from videos online, can't say i've seen either play much.
{Ed002's Note - Kone is more defensive than Thuram who might suit the needs of Liverpool better.}
3.) 01 Jun 2023 11:01:36
Harry, i think Ed002 is more alluding to Kone and Thuram playing similar positions. He's said previously we might sign 2 or 3 midfielders so it's not about the number of players, more about the similarities.
I can't really comment on it with any conviction as I've never watched either player live. Stylistically they look quite different but they are both ultimately defensive minded midfielders.
If we signed MacAllister and then Kone or Thuram i think that's still a decent window, no? Jones and Bajcetic might just get more game time than if we signed 3 midfielders.
{Ed002's Note - I would agree.}
4.) 01 Jun 2023 11:45:10
ED02, I was thinking the exact same thing. Since both players look on the face it similar (with Kone being more defensive), I never believed we would sign both of them and thought it would be either of the two and not both. Getting both just looked strange to me at the start.
5.) 01 Jun 2023 12:38:39
As per what Ed002 and MK Scouser have said, David Ornstein reported that Liverpool has decided NOT to recruit more than 2 midfielders this summer and will stick with the signings of Alexis Mac Allister and Manu Kone as they believe the likes of Elliott and Jones will improve.
6.) 01 Jun 2023 12:53:09
So we would potentially have thuram/ kone, fabinho, Jones, hendo, Thiago, bajcetic, Elliot and Mac allister (or other) available for 3 slots. So 8 players, seems a lot, even though we lost 3, Jones Elliot and bajcetic are all older and needing more mins. Not sure what I’d do, I don’t like saying it, but I’d put Jones at the bottom of the pile for the youngsters, despite him hitting form recently. Can’t really see one of Thiago hendo or fabinho leaving, even though that maybe would make more sense.
7.) 01 Jun 2023 13:12:41
Romano coming out saying the MacAllister fee is"way"less than £65m. Starting to sound better this transfer.
8.) 01 Jun 2023 14:35:01
Romano is a chancer, he's Mr After The Fact. I'd listen to what Ed002 tells you pal. HERE WE GO.!
9.) 01 Jun 2023 15:14:25
Ed002 your information is spot on as normal. Noise seems to be around both players Kone and Thuram and without me asking the most likely question as you stated it would be one or the other, which player do you see as more attainable or possible please.
{Ed002's Note - They will both be moving this summer.}
10.) 01 Jun 2023 15:11:40
Inb4 McAllister signs for 64.5 mil and Romano declares victory.
11.) 01 Jun 2023 16:10:43
Romano is hit and miss. Often a scoop stealer and clout chaser, but sometimes player representatives like to use him to steer a story or narrative in a certain direction as they work to get business done for their player.
With that said, it does sound like he's getting information directly from MacAllister's team. I'm not sure what the truth is on that contract or how this could turn out though. Seems to favor Liverpool, but things could take a quick turn at any point prior to the deal being closed.
12.) 04 Jun 2023 10:53:50
Ed2 - in an earlier response you said "Kone is more defensive than Thuram who might suit the needs of Liverpool better" -
did you mean Thuram might suit needs of Liverpool better?
{Ed002's Note - Thuram.}
18 Apr 2023 14:28:24
Seen a rumour that Jurrien Timber is looking for a house in Liverpool.
Personally I'm delighted. Not about Jurrien Timber, I've never seen the lad play. But about a rumour involving a random player apparently house shopping, haven't seen one like that for years. The good old days of transfer rumours, bring them back.
1.) 18 Apr 2023 15:21:39
Apparently his Mum loves scouse and it's cheaper to buy a house and for her to live here than get it flown in every day.
Mostly when you hear hooves, it's horses ;-)
2.) 18 Apr 2023 16:58:22
Interesting, not that familiar with him but can play RB as well as CB apparently.
We’ve been linked also with Evan Ndicka who would be available on a free transfer and can play CB and LB so if links true (probably not) could possibly sell Matip, Tsimikas, Williams and Phillips allowing flexibility to maybe have option of back 3 with Trent “roaming”.
3.) 18 Apr 2023 18:46:57
I'm tracking the Babelcopter on Flight tracker as we speak.
4.) 18 Apr 2023 18:51:57
If we can sell Matip and Phillips and replace them with Timber and Ndicka that would be solid business. Big IF though.
5.) 18 Apr 2023 20:02:17
My Auntie lives in Amsterdam and her mate works with Jurriens Aunt and Uncle in KFC in the red light district, anyway his aunt says Jurrien is best pals with Cody (didn't specify if it was Gakpo, but she thinks it is) and he said Jurrien follows liverpool and its Nailed on. Think she used those exact words.
6.) 18 Apr 2023 20:37:54
Had she been in The Grasshopper coffee shop first molby?
7.) 18 Apr 2023 20:55:49
Love the grasshopper. It’s got wild expensive these days.
8.) 18 Apr 2023 20:59:25
Are you sure "Nailed on" wasn't referring to the sights and sounds in the red light district where your Aunt works, Molby?
9.) 19 Apr 2023 08:33:04
I love fried chicken and hookers, and I can safely say there is no KFC in the red light district. Perhaps that's because they don't want greasy handprints on the windows the ladies are behind.
10.) 19 Apr 2023 09:32:05
Or indeed on the ladies behinds, Rugby P.
11.) 19 Apr 2023 14:32:21
Rugby - surely not at the same time?
11 Apr 2023 21:23:54
This Jude Bellingham news is quite frankly an embarrassment for the club and everyone involved.
1.) 11 Apr 2023 21:38:13
Briefingpool FC.
2.) 11 Apr 2023 21:42:04
All this Jude Bellingham talk is so boring it’s like a soap opera. With everybody posting all the click bait crap yesterday Madrid had pulled out because it was to expensive then tonight we have bid £84m now we have pulled out of the race. Can’t we just get this season out the way before all this crap in the summer and then wait to see what happens.
3.) 11 Apr 2023 21:43:27
Is anybody surprised? Written off a full season for a Kid that we can’t afford.
DELIBERATE! 2 windows, just ignored the midfield when we would’ve walked 4th easily. Disgraceful.
4.) 11 Apr 2023 21:48:07
Shambles but if we haven’t got the money then rather rebuild and buy 2/ 3 players instead of one. FSG are killing the club though. They need to just sell instead of trying to keep milking us. Good for a time but time to go.
5.) 11 Apr 2023 21:52:47
The meltdown starts .
6.) 11 Apr 2023 21:54:31
Extremely disappointing news if true.
7.) 11 Apr 2023 22:01:48
If true, it sums up our level under FSG, 2nd tier in the transfer market, perhaps 3rd.
8.) 11 Apr 2023 22:33:03
To be devils advocate maybe last season Bellingham was on, now after our shocking season he feels we can’t offer him what he wants. There were rumours he’d made a decision and maybe that's to go to a different project.
I believe we did want him and had funds for him, but money can’t buy you anything you want and city and Madrid aren’t bad choices from a football viewpoint.
We move on, remember Salah was 5th choice!
9.) 11 Apr 2023 22:33:57
I feel like we've had this convo before.
Nothing like over-reacting to something a journo said because they're somehow perceived to be more reliable or knowledgeable when it comes to Liverpool than their colleagues.
Or maybe it's just cos what they're saying suits an agenda.
10.) 11 Apr 2023 23:37:32
How is it embarrassing? Who s embarrassed? I’d rather the club bought 3 or 4 very good players that improve the team rather than one world class player just for “the look”.
11.) 12 Apr 2023 00:10:00
I'd rather sign the one generational talent myself WDW. If that empties the coffers, that's a different issue, imo.
But there is no story here. Why do we believe Joyce at face value? Would we we believe him if he said "Bellingham is 100% nailed on to join Liverpool"? Doubt it.
It's clear that some WANT the club to pass on Bellingham so they can complain about it.
12.) 12 Apr 2023 04:32:15
Who’s buying Jude for ‘the look? ’ Everybody interested is because he’s genuinely the key player for any team in the world for a decade. Rather fork out for Jude than mount and nunes.
We’ve tried the 3/ 4 players instead of 1 in the past and it doesn’t work.
But this is football and until I’m a billionaire I have no say. Have to start looking down the couch again see what I can gather up.
13.) 12 Apr 2023 08:08:01
Genuine question. can anyone think of any "generational talent" who was bought by a Premier League club and then helped to transform that clubs fortunes in terms of winning leagues. (Drogba perhaps? )
Bellingham won't win us the league. He'll help compete for it (and provide a lift to other players around him ) .
I get the team uplift - but not the idea of "guaranteed success" from "generational talent"
14.) 12 Apr 2023 10:04:30
I would argue that City are going to win a good percentage of the league titles in prem over the next ten years, there is good evidence of Erling Harland being at the forefront of the success.
I would class him as a generational talent.
16 Oct 2023 12:11:24
Fabrizio Romano has confirmed that the new concrete is having a medical. Here We Go soon.
06 Sep 2023 12:34:15
Fabrizio mentioned this morning that the Liverpool coaches and board view Darwin as 'untouchable'. I'm not saying we should believe everything he says, but there would be no benefit to him making that up. It's hardly click generating.
For me Felix plays a similar role to Gakpo, but Gakpo is a much better player. The idea of Joao Felix is better than the actual product, he's all style no substance.
31 Aug 2023 19:36:11
VV to be fair at least Phillips has actually been a good player at this level. Arthur Melo flopped at Barcelona and only ended up at Juve because he was part of an elaborate accounting trick.
29 Aug 2023 09:38:34
Yes let’s sell him and spend the money on a world clas replacement. Because we did such a good job of it when we sold Fabinho!
28 Aug 2023 15:54:36
I think it's perfectly rational to think Endo did fine and that we still ideally should sign somebody else to start ahead of him. That's where I sit
As for Douglas Luiz, I really rate him as a player. But his performances have dramatically improved since Emery gave him more license to go forward, so I'm not sure he's the answer as a DM.
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