Current Avatar:
No Avatar image uploaded
No Avatar image uploaded
Liverpool Rumours Member Posts
FSGfleecingus's Profile
FSGfleecingus's Posts and Other Poster's Replies To FSGfleecingus's Posts
To FSGfleecingus's last 5 rumours posts
To FSGfleecingus's last 5 banter posts
To FSGfleecingus's last 5 rumour replies
To FSGfleecingus's last 5 banter replies
FSGfleecingus's rumours posts with other poster's replies to FSGfleecingus's rumours posts
01 Feb 2024 21:47:20
Alonso already spoken to ex team mates like Carragher, he wants the job. Great fit to take us forward and challenge for years to come.
1.) 01 Feb 2024 22:52:35
Well done FSG right?
2.) 02 Feb 2024 07:35:54
Wouldn’t Xabi be better talking to the club rather than former team mates if he wants the job?
3.) 02 Feb 2024 08:25:36
It also means all these inverted LB, RB bs will be gone. Nice!
4.) 02 Feb 2024 10:13:50
Yeah what a shame Lee who wants to be top of the table, already in a final and still fighting for 4 comps.
5.) 02 Feb 2024 11:09:08
Robbo and Tsimikas are weak in the air, Gomez is much better defensively, I hope Gomez keeps his place even when Robbo and Trent are back.
6.) 02 Feb 2024 14:19:36
Xabi speaking to carra instead of fsg for the job?.
7.) 02 Feb 2024 21:37:58
is this Xabi tapping up himself? :D.
8.) 03 Feb 2024 03:58:22
Carra trying to act like the unofficial representative of LFC
He's hanging around Gary Neville so much that he's actually starting to afct like him.
I thought that Carra had more class than that. clearly not!
9.) 03 Feb 2024 08:53:47
JLC stop talking rubbish. The whole thing is a rumour and Carra has said he and Xabi occasionally message. So your “class” comment is pathetic.
10.) 03 Feb 2024 11:57:26
Are the press back to tapping phones again then?
11.) 03 Feb 2024 11:57:36
Just to add, Cara lost any remnants of class when he spat in someone’s (girl? ) face, imo.
12.) 03 Feb 2024 22:24:55
Yo Frode
Not sure exactly what you understood by my comment, but it was directed at the fact that Carra should stop hanging around Neville. it was more of a dig at Neville
I'll draw pictures for you next time.
13.) 03 Feb 2024 22:59:34
@Faith that definitely should be banned if it isn’t already.
I am getting reports (isn’t that what people say these days) that Jurgen has arranged a little presentation for Xabi late in May when he hands over the keys to the caravan parked under the central pier at Blackpool, subject to the tide being out on 5he day, of course.
FSGfleecingus's banter posts with other poster's replies to FSGfleecingus's banter posts
08 Jul 2024 12:26:28
Please Eds, tell me that speech coming out about Salah and VD won't be sold if no contract is agreed is bullS? We are a club that needs sales to work in the transfer market, I know there's still fans that believe our owners are great and provide funds, we could of got Gordon before end of June and it wouldn't of impacted us one bit regarding rules, we didn't, clear sign the Caicedo offer was pure fantasy, if no contracts for either is agreed then we have to sell, they can't be let go from free, pure stupidity if it happens.
{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what has been said but Liverpool can't force players to move.}
1.) 08 Jul 2024 14:10:29
I have absolutely no inside information on this and am purely putting 2+2 together and probably coming up with 5.
But surely Virg must be looking at his options. The guy has turned 33 today and whilst he clearly enjoys playing for LFC there's rumour that Real want him there.
He's won the lot at LFC but going to Real almost guarantees he's going to finish his career with a trophy haul over a new manager transitional period with LFC where we're just as likely not to win anything over the likelihood of us winning.
Just a food for thought and interesting to see what others think.
2.) 08 Jul 2024 14:12:56
FSGfleecingus, I nearly stopped reading after the first paragraph. Now after I read the whole "Caicedo offer was pure fantasy", I stopped reading completely. I must say tho, you wear that username of yours perfectly. Bravo, sir.
3.) 08 Jul 2024 15:03:32
Why shouldn't the club honour the contracts that they sign?
We signed van Dijk and Salah for big money but they have more than repaid their transfer fees.
Just enjoy your cake!
4.) 08 Jul 2024 17:31:10
Oli, I stopped reading your post when I saw the letter "F". Again, you are condescending even tho you've repeatedly being told to knock it off. U attacked me a couple years ago for a benign comment.
JK, I wouldn't be surprised to see Virgil and Mo leave on frees next season and pocket the big signing on fee. Hoping they both sign one or two year extensions and whether or not they leave early at least that way we get something for them. Seems from what Slot said that both players are eager to stay at least one more year.
5.) 08 Jul 2024 17:44:00
Why shouldn't the club honour the contracts that they sign?
Because we need cash and sales.
6.) 08 Jul 2024 18:31:04
We need cash and sales to buy new players so we sell players we already have to bring in new ones? ?
It wasn't that long ago people were talking about selling Alisson so we could bring in new players. Now it's van Dijk and Salah. Three of the best players we've had for decades and some seem willing to sell them against their will.
If the club offers a player a contract it should be prepared to honour it. If the club don't act like responsible employers then we needn't worry about cash and sales for new players. They won't want to come anyway.
7.) 08 Jul 2024 19:05:46
I’m sorry but if you’re pushing the narrative that the Caicedo bid was pure fantasy then you deserve to condescend to because you are a bloody idiot.
8.) 08 Jul 2024 19:39:25
Does that logic applies to all the players @Rigsby. Such as Keita. Because as I see we all wanted him gone long ago. You cannot honor the contract for every player. We don’t have the owners of Manchester city who could pump money like water without selling any. club needs money and mostly money comes from sales.
9.) 08 Jul 2024 19:44:09
FSGfleecingus sounds like a tin hat wearing conspiracy nut.
I bet he thinks the earth is flat and we never landed on the moon too.
10.) 08 Jul 2024 20:23:35
Jaguar, we honoured Keita's contract. We didn't stop paying him or make him play elsewhere, did we?
Yes, I'd have sold him years ago but maybe there were no takers or he refused to leave like what Salah and van Dijk could do.
It applies to clubs, too. Salah and van Dijk can't just choose to leave this summer because they are contracted for next season. And if they do leave on frees they should go with the goodwill of the fans and the club for what they have done and we can pick up players that do the same like we did with Milner and Matip, for example.
11.) 08 Jul 2024 20:30:24
Harry, your constant made-up facts and untruths are just endless. Last year, the club's revenues were above 500 Million. Which according to you "mostly came through player sales"? Do you even believe the stuff you post on here?
12.) 08 Jul 2024 20:32:05
You are wrong about that Jaguar…. you legally HAVE to honour the contract of every player. If the player won’t agree to be sold, then he stays until the end of his contract.
13.) 08 Jul 2024 21:16:16
@Jaguar - how do you know we ‘need rage money and sakes ‘? Put up or shut up as the old saying goes.
14.) 08 Jul 2024 19:32:31
Or how about we ask Ed02 the story behind £115 mill Caecido bid ?.
{Ed002's Note - The bid came from a rogue Liverpool representative.}
15.) 08 Jul 2024 22:00:53
@ArAy in that case I expect the club to splash in the excess of £300 mill this summer without any major sale. Fine by me.
16.) 08 Jul 2024 22:05:15
@Rigsby
Fair enough dude. You know better than me on finances and how club operates ?. I take back my earlier comment that club needs “sales to operate”.
17.) 08 Jul 2024 22:41:00
@Jaguar. And why should the club spend 300 million on players? What's your rationale and justification for this? Forget the 300 million, you can expect the club to splash the whole 500 million they earned, on purchases, if you wish, but that's not happening either. Because they know they're running a business and you obviously have no idea how one is run.
18.) 09 Jul 2024 00:26:11
Arent those contracts that they signed? Why can't they choose to run down their contracts? If they cant, why there's such a contract in the first place? Maybe they should be employed just like most of us? After 3 months probation, they get the jobs as permanent. And if they want to leave, tender a 3-months notice.
Who is stupid, really?
19.) 09 Jul 2024 05:54:06
I am just reinstating the fact that the club has enough money to buy whoever they wishes to without any sale. Ignore the numbers (it might rise to £300 mill or it might not) . At least we can agree that the club doesn’t need sales to operate.
I might not be the best guy to know how a business is run but what I clearly know is any business needs money to operate and if you say we have enough of them coming through other means, then all good.
20.) 09 Jul 2024 07:05:50
Beckers pecker :- we absolutely didn’t land on the moon ?.
21.) 09 Jul 2024 08:07:09
@Oli meh, nice one you have a trend that sticks, that's fine, you do you champ, @Beckers are you a second account for Oli? We have to use player sales, that's fact, never once have i changed from supporting what FSG did for us, but i have always stated we have out grown them and they need to sell or start to bring in ready made/ higher level of players, it was a question that we don't make mistakes like we did with others, you don't let 2 main starts run a contract down, i thought we brought Edwards and Ward in to be savvy, there is absolutely zero savvy about them going for free, no sense at all.
22.) 08 Jul 2024 22:02:38
"Rogue representative". That sounds really sinister, Ed002. Do clubs not ask to see NDA's or Mandate letters from people claiming to represent teams or players? ?.
{Ed002's Note - No. He was a Liverpool employee acting on his own.}
23.) 08 Jul 2024 22:20:22
lol you are a tease Ed002.
24.) 09 Jul 2024 07:51:04
I don't know about the bid but Klopp said that we went in for Caceido, didn't he?
25.) 09 Jul 2024 08:49:37
Don't get this let them run down their contracts because they signed a deal malarkey. we operate on sales n what we earn every year . if VVD n salah don't sign I'd try n sell them for whatever money we can get . this loyalty nonsense, salah been trying to get to Madrid for years as ed2 says . it's not like their both in their prime . next year if we don't do well n people screaming for new signings just remember people wanted us to b nice n loyal to players running down their contracts .
{Ed002's Note - The problem is that Liverpool cannot force the players to move.}
26.) 09 Jul 2024 09:35:52
@Red_Flyer, you've been holding this grudge for two years, man? That's very disturbing. For you. I propose you go get that checked out cos whatever you have that makes you hold grudges for two years over throw-away comments made on a footie site cannot be good for your health in any aspect. That's all you're going to get from me, bro. Peace!
@FSG, I have NO interest in discussing such topics filled with projection/ opinions without ANY proof like "the Caicedo offer was pure fantasy". You have NO proof of that so provide the proof or get called the "tin foiled hat" wearer by others, it's that simple.
Also, you do not have any proof that "we have outgrown FSG" which is bonkers cos was it not FSG the group that grew LFC to the point of us now "outgrowing FSG", according to you? Oh, you din't think about that, did you? Look if you are so bent on wanting FSG to sell then go get your own money and make them an offer they cannot refuse so they can sell the club to you. It's that simple.
27.) 09 Jul 2024 09:59:41
If we sell Salah and van Dijk for whatever money we can get we'd still need to replace them. Do we pay whatever fee we have to to replace them?
How do we know that they are running down their contracts? They might want the security that a new contract would offer. How do we know that the club is not letting their contracts run down given their age and salaries?
All parties might be open to negotiate extensions but it seems some fans want shiny new toys and are willing for the club to abandon its obligations to two of its outstanding servants.
28.) 09 Jul 2024 12:19:19
@Oli, a rogue representative? Does that mean FSG knew anything about it? You think they would of cleared it? We could have spent anywhere up to £180m before June and be nowhere near the trouble Everton, Forest, City teams like that are in, that's fact for you, would it not of made sense to get a Gordon or someone before then? None of my questions are aimed at you, unless I specifically aim it at you, which is usually only to point out your condescending, p##spot attitude towards most others, when we are in midtable terms of spending, also fact, and want to compete at the top end, i would say we need owners who can keep up, they did a fantastic job but turnover in players and standard of players cost.
29.) 09 Jul 2024 12:24:43
Rigsby . yea we need to spend big to replace them. so any money helps towards that . instead of no money for 2 players well past their prime, ed2 I know we can't force players out but should be a plan put in place for these situations . can't believe we got 3 of our first team on last year of the contracts.
30.) 09 Jul 2024 12:52:02
They may be well past their prime but van Dijk is our best defender and Salah our top scorer. They will need replacing and I'm sure they will be plans in place.
The club won't need to be told that they are on the last year of their contracts and can leave for free after that.
31.) 09 Jul 2024 16:23:36
Yea Rigsby but who said they'll be the best this season. then we replace them with less money than we should have . I would have sold Salah last year fr 100 mill. I'm sure we could get an adequate replacement for that money. Been 2 great servants but the club must surely come first.
23 Feb 2024 14:23:35
Heard that both Salah and Nunez will be unavailable for the final, hopefully Elliott is still buzzing and puts the shift of his life in. Took a while to get going against Luton like they all did but we are always better second half so i fancy a Chelsea to score first, 3-2 Liverpool win Sunday, UTFR.
1.) 23 Feb 2024 15:08:54
@FSGfleecingus, Lijnders' exact words, "Dom, Darwin and Mo we have to really see, we have two more days, ”.
While @RobboLFC said he has news that both will train with the first team on another thread.
Not saying you are both worng but you both cannot be right so, who am I to believe? Help me out here, people.
For me, I like a rumour or two and all that but I think we should actually believe the actual assistant manager and see what happens on Sun. Just saying.
2.) 23 Feb 2024 21:02:02
To be honest I hope we don’t risk any of the three if there is the slightest risk. We are playing well as a squad at the moment. Some of the young lads have earned the right to start / play and they aren’t going to let anybody down.
As for Dom, Mo and Darwin, we have bigger fish to fry before the end of the season. It’d be great if they are fit for Sunday but it would better to hold them back if they aren’t ready for it.
3.) 24 Feb 2024 03:18:52
Whenever someone says bigger fish to fry I can’t help but thinking of Robbie from Arsenal Fan TV ?.
4.) 24 Feb 2024 07:58:31
Obviously I know Chelsea is a tough game but I think we have enough to beat them without risking mo dom and Darwin so get them in the best shape fort city as that’s the big 1 for me . Would love to win the cup but the title is up for grabs this year and we have a great chance . So no risks taken.
5.) 24 Feb 2024 08:13:37
Really interesting narrative and I hope people are consistent with their comments about this game and their general assessment of how we approach the league cup.
I think we play the strongest team available whilst balancing injuries and rewarding squad players who have earned a starting spot. If everything is fit I’m think someone like Kelleher, Elliot, Grav, Gomez and Quansah may have started the game anyways.
6.) 24 Feb 2024 09:03:40
Agreed WDW.
7.) 24 Feb 2024 10:55:00
To be fair @Faith, nobody has said that we shouldn’t play our strongest team available. Again I think that we approach the cup with every intention of trying to win it. I don’t see a contradiction in saying we really want to win but we don’t want to risk key players who might be carrying an injury.
8.) 24 Feb 2024 11:55:54
With you there WDW - much rather have the 3 fit for city than risking them for this if not fully fit. To me that is the more important game in the context of our season and defs the game I’d rather win.
9.) 24 Feb 2024 12:25:01
Interesting. For me the next game is the most important. And with it being a cup final, potentially Jurgans last (hopefully not) we have to use them and try win the game.
10.) 24 Feb 2024 15:15:34
There is no way players should be risked. even if it is a final. Three players have already had injury setbacks, which is surprising enough being relatively close together. Risking them could potentially put them out for the season.
11.) 25 Feb 2024 06:24:33
WDW - I guess what I thought I was reading and hearing about this final (not just this thread) is a general sense that we have to win. Yet I recall couple years ago we had to convince people that winning the league and FA Cup was a good thing albeit missing out on the big two.
My thing is to just keep it consistent. For me I want us to win everything but recognise that there are levels to it lol as I’d said in earlier reply I would have expected that we played our strongest possible league cup line-up which should reward the fringe players who had really contributed to getting us to the final.
12.) 25 Feb 2024 09:59:34
@Faith - spot on mate.
08 Feb 2024 09:10:43
Morning, Sorry if i have missed it but are we seriously looking at Bakoyoko from PSV? We missed a trick with Diaby really so hope we aren't slow with this one, cheers.
1.) 08 Feb 2024 20:58:26
Missed a trick with Diaby? We can't sign every single player that is half decent!
2.) 09 Feb 2024 08:35:19
What trick did we miss then?
3.) 09 Feb 2024 08:36:28
I believe there are 5 or 6 people looking seriously @FSG. Then there are about a couple of hundred looking at him in a half hearted manner and the rest of humanity hasn’t declared any sort of interest whatsoever.
4.) 09 Feb 2024 11:59:48
TB2, you do know that we caouldn't have missed any trick with Diaby (who I wanted, as well should Salah had gone earlier) if indeed, we were never interested in him or if indeed, we didn't need him cos Salah was still here, right?
5.) 09 Feb 2024 12:59:59
Well as our club is obsessed with stats they would of seen Diaby was the most productive player outside of Salah on the right hand side, in any top flight league, he is doing very well at Villa and looks a threat, would of been a great signing for us.
18 Jan 2024 22:00:53
I find it laughable it being said we can't afford Mbappe, it's literally Salahs and Thiago wage combined, we would be crazy not to entertain the idea, more than do-able and would win us the league and CL.
1.) 18 Jan 2024 22:24:45
Would it though? We are a team built on talented players who have made their name with us. The times we’ve tried to buy ready made superstars it’s fallen flat on its face. Thiago and Keita being the main 2 examples.
Allison is arguably the only player we’ve signed who you could claim was already the best in his position although he’d achieved very little before signing for us.
For the money involved and the possible disruption to the squad I’d say no at this point. He’s got Real Madrid written all over him.
2.) 18 Jan 2024 22:28:34
OP, not sure you know the amount of money being talked about here. I don't know either but based on the amounts out there, it's going to take a lot more than Thiago's and Salah's wages combined and Im not even talking about the sign on fee which will be gi-normous as well. I mean, do you even realise the stature of the player we are talking about here? I don't think you do, respectfully.
3.) 18 Jan 2024 22:30:47
Keita was hardly Modric. He was definitely not a superstar.
4.) 18 Jan 2024 22:52:10
way too much money for a superstar who is not the best fit for the team.
5.) 18 Jan 2024 23:24:40
Mbappe reported wage demands: £1m a week. More according to some sources.
Salah and Thiago's combined wage: £550k a week.
Literally the same thing alright.
6.) 18 Jan 2024 23:27:59
Not in the Mbappe mould Mark but he was touted as the best midfielder in Germany and it was seen as a real coup when we signed Keita.
This season we signed a guy called Endo that most of us had never heard of and he’s been brilliant for us. That’s just how we roll.
7.) 19 Jan 2024 00:27:57
What about the crazy signing on fee which is about equal to salahs transfer fee probably. and all the circus he has around him.
8.) 19 Jan 2024 01:28:26
How exactly does signing him make us win the PL and CL? there's no guarantee he'd even play well in this league. For the money he'd want it'd be far too much of a risk, there's too many cons over the pros of signing that lad. Not a chance in the world would I want us to go for him.
If it's true and he wants a million a week, I wouldn't want him at 500k a week never mind a million! absolute daft money even today. I know the money side of things have got out of hand but that's rediculous and we're not that type of club to go paying somebody that. Nobody is worth that in my opinion, I don't care who it is.
Imagine the rest of the team? 'yeah nice one he's on about 6 times more then I am' it's not good for team morale or the club. Thankfully it won't be happening, guaranteed he'll either stay at PSG or go to RM. They can have him if they're daft enough to pay him.
9.) 19 Jan 2024 01:52:20
Still with the Mbappe nonsense? This isn't a clickbait facebook or twitter site.
Next time, start your post with : !
10.) 19 Jan 2024 06:37:10
Let’s face it Mbappe ain’t coming to Liverpool. He will most likely end up at Madrid as they will pay what it takes (within reason) to make the deal happen. But anyone saying they don’t want him, if it was remotely possible and the owners gave Klopp the go ahead and he wanted to join, are not serious. If a deal could be made you grab it worth both hands, irrespective of the costs involved. He is world class, plain and simple. Actually, I’m my opinion he is generational and should have left PSG years ago. Having said all that it’s a non starter so doesn’t matter anyways.
11.) 19 Jan 2024 09:39:35
Alonso you have to look at the bigger picture. Mbappe is a very good player but no player is worth what he would cost. Not just financially but in the harmony of the squad.
Look at the circus that surrounds him every single transfer window. He could just put it all to bed by saying what he’s doing but he whips it up to give himself leverage to get what he wants.
He would be an absolute disaster if we signed him. Good player but really not worth the aggro.
12.) 19 Jan 2024 09:47:41
Mbappe, salah and nunez would be some handful for defences though. I think the chances of signing him are probably 0.0000001% but it’s fun to think about! My personal preference is always someone lower profile and shape them to what we need and make them superstars!
13.) 19 Jan 2024 09:51:44
@SR, my sentiments exactly.
14.) 19 Jan 2024 09:56:22
Wouldn't it be great if all the clubs took a stand and offered him the same deal of £400k a week max with a reasonable signing on fee and said there you go, take your pick. Unfortunately, someone, somewhere is going to sign off on his ridiculous demands, artificially inflating the market all over again.
15.) 19 Jan 2024 12:09:28
Mbappe is a world class talent who can and likely would produce world class numbers in the premier league.
Eventually we are going to lose Salah who also produces world class numbers be it a transfer or Father Time and Mbappe would be a great player to fill those shoes.
But as it’s been pointed out above the financial package is astronomical and the choice between Madrid or Liverpool means it’s not going to happen.
Pipe dream but not going to happen.
16.) 19 Jan 2024 12:40:49
The only way they could work the wage issue is a massive signing on fee to offset the reduction in weekly wages to say £350-400k a week. Not saying it’s happening but he couldn’t come in on a 800k a week say. It would destroy the clubs wage structure.
Again not saying it’s happening but hypothetically couldn’t a club pay a higher signing on fee for a player which offsets the reduction of wages received in line with club wage structure?
I might be wrong but if he’s free to sign a pre contract, a club could offer a package in that structure. Which if we were ever considering it surely that is how we would offer any kind of deal. I think Mbappe knows he is not going to receive the type of wage he is getting now at any other club apart from Suadi, so he fully expects that in my opinion.
I highly highly doubt we will sign him, but I do think the club has interest in him. Maybe we have or are offering a package, and if he thinks it’s too low then so be it.
{Ed002's Note - Mbappe has an offer from Real Madrid. Liverpool has not made any offer.}
FSGfleecingus's rumour replies
17 Jul 2024 13:07:09
Didn't work with Mbappe @Strom, this shouldn't even be a problem had the club been run correctly, Salah should of gone last summer, VVD should have at least 2 years left and be sold and Trent should of been given a 6/ 7 year deal last summer.
17 Jul 2024 12:57:49
We should just pay Everton a Van Dijk sized price for Branthwaite and be done with it. He is the next big CB.
17 Jul 2024 08:12:46
Yes the club is so well run that it makes plenty of sense to let your best players run their contracts down and go for nothing, replace them with people on a fifth of the wage. Great club management.
16 Jul 2024 11:26:26
That would be class.
16 Jul 2024 09:30:50
Then we will end up with a £15m player no one has heard of because Liverpool are sticking to their guns and won't be taken the p. out of over prices, yaaaay.
FSGfleecingus's banter replies
18 Jul 2024 10:27:12
City, Chelsea, United and Arsenal all won multiple leagues through improvement and investment, we won 1, my point stands, good to see the other replies were not posted, lovely freedom of speech, I get the agenda.
18 Jul 2024 10:24:51
Plenty of money around for councils, they are just people in charge of it who don't spend in the right areas.
{Ed025's Note - i dont think you have got a scooby FSGF, the councils have had their budgets slashed under the tory,s ans are having to fund social care as well as other resources and there is no money in the pot for that, i suspect you know as much about the financial running of local government as you do about football finance mate..thick as toast comes to mind..
18 Jul 2024 10:20:31
We know what we need to do for Ignacio and we aren't doing it, stop messing around and get the lad in to be prepared for the new season, ask Virg and Salah if they want a contract, if not tell them thanks but they are now up for sale, we need funds clearly, offer Trent whatever he wants and the captaincy regardless, the club is a mess and I don't understand what they are waiting for, new blood equals a lift to all and a kick up the backside that a new guy is around to challenge for their place, we didn't invest properly after winning the league and we suffered, it wouldn't of happened at Chelsea, Arsenal, City or United, it's why they won multiple titles and we won 1. If we want to challenge again then we need the invest into the side. Hard Fact.
17 Jul 2024 15:09:59
That first 11 is to open and would need a top class holding mid, not MacAllister, It would push top 4, with a declining Salah we would lack goals, i would sell him and bring another forward in.
17 Jul 2024 13:02:33
spot on Viktor.