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15 Dec 2020 08:09:08
Good morning ed002 are Liverpool able to bring any loan players back in January? I am thinking mainly of Elliot and Gruijic. Thanks.


{Ed002's Note - I think Ben Woodburn can return in January but Harvey Elliott still legally counts as a child so the loan includes "schooling" so he cannot return until the summer. Unless there is a get-out clause in the agreement with Porto, which is unlikely, then Grujic has to see out his contract until the summer, when the club will look to sell him.}

1.) 15 Dec 2020 10:24:17
Has Alan Hansen still got his boots?

2.) 15 Dec 2020 11:28:08
We could do with Grujic right now!

3.) 15 Dec 2020 16:39:52
Jose doesn't think so. made me laugh. I do love the mind games.

4.) 15 Dec 2020 22:49:16
Would you play Grujic over Jones? That's what I thought. Elliot needs to stay where he is; he's doing a great a job, but he's still a long way from challenging our front four for regular game time. I have high hopes that he will improve at Blackburn and get, at the very least, premier league loan next year. Sad as it is to say, long gone are the days when a player like Rooney comes in at 16-17 years old and makes an impact at a top ten club.

5.) 16 Dec 2020 13:12:45
Grujic would of course get plenty game time atm. In addition he would be the best header of the ball in the squad. We are a bit more vulnerable at set pieces.

6.) 17 Dec 2020 18:08:21
Ed002. Is Elliott receiving an education in Blackburn? I thought that the reason he'd gone on loan so locally was that he wouldn't have to relocate his education?

{Ed002's Note - The rules are very strict for under 18s and Blackburn is I guess an hour or so from Liverpool. Regardless, he is only 17 so can only train and play a fixed number of hours per week and must complete his schooling in the rest of the time. The club will be ensuring the rules are applied - being under 18 the rules are very specific on loans which is why they are very rare and are looked at very carefully.}

7.) 18 Dec 2020 08:11:38
Thanks for the reply Ed002. Have a great day.

8.) 18 Dec 2020 10:11:46
That's very interesting, I'd have thought being contracted to a football league club would count as an apprenticeship and therefore full time education. Considering how many don't make the grade its good to know it doesn't!

9.) 20 Dec 2020 00:39:21
Elliot is currently getting the chance to play week in week out and has the chance to prove himself instead of returning to sit on bench behind salah jota or minamino.

Grujic is barely even able to make his mark at Porto right now so why should Curtis Jones be seen as needing an upgrade with grujic. Thiago, OX and keita are still to come into the equation as all are returning to fitness now. We don't have the cluster of games every 3 days for next 5 weeks or so until CL restarts so we will be less strained with injury and fatigue to feel the need to bring back any loaned out players.



12 Jun 2020 10:15:18
Hey Ed's and fellow reds, hope you are all doing ok under the circumstances. I have not been able to check on the site much recently as have been crazy busy at work.

A massive thanks to ed002, your detailed responses to questions and your knowledge is unmatched. One quick question if I may, I see our one major weakness being back up gk. I would spend the little money we have fixing this issue. Any thoughts ed and are we looking for an upgrade? Then if we manage to sell some players and reduce the wage bill we can maybe look to strengthen other areas later.


{Ed002's Note - Adrian (G) has a year to run on his contract but Real Betis would like Liverpool to release him for free this summer - but the club would prefer him to stay - and I expect him the stay and perhaps next year it becomes a priority.}

1.) 12 Jun 2020 11:20:12
Not the answer I was hoping for but thanks for the answer.

{Ed002's Note - The club also has Kelleher and Grabara.}

2.) 12 Jun 2020 11:20:44
Karius has recently come out and said he wants to stay and fight for the keeping position, do you think we will even contemplate him staying next season or are we actively trying to move him on.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool will look to move him on if they can - and don't forget the club has to comply with the non-HG limit.}

3.) 12 Jun 2020 12:09:00
I don’t see this as a priority. Adrian is ok for the job. Not many sides have two absolutely top drawer keepers. Look at City, they’ve got Ederson and Bravo, Bravo is a dodgy keeper at best and it’s fair comment that Adrian is a far better than him.

4.) 12 Jun 2020 13:52:20
Adrian is a good back up keeper, who is better is going to come to sit on the bench? the Atletico game aside Adrian has done a good job and its harder for sub keepers as they rarely get game time to sharpen up.

5.) 12 Jun 2020 15:52:59
Thanks for the info Eds, who looks more ready for the first team, Kelleher and Grabara? I remember reading Grabara is the Polish U21 keeper and is quite highly rated if memory serves.

{Ed002's Note - I understand both are well thought of - the same age and both are Home Grown.}

6.) 12 Jun 2020 17:48:21
In my opinion having watched both. Whilst in youth teams. I always felt Grabara was the better of the 2. And seemed to look more imposing than Kellacher. But at their age. It can swing quickly!

7.) 12 Jun 2020 18:22:49
Adrian seems like a great guy but there’s no way he’s up the standard unfortunately. Don’t forget we went our of two cup competitions in the space of a week before the break, due to his errors.

8.) 12 Jun 2020 20:18:23
Barring Romero at United, Adrian is at least as good as if not better than most number two keepers in the premier league, not a position that is worth spaffing a load of money on given the dire financial situation that we are in.

9.) 12 Jun 2020 20:46:51
I’d say gazzaniga is better than Adrian too.

10.) 13 Jun 2020 22:33:06
But again, he’s an ok backup and it’s hardly a priority right now.



10 Jun 2019 10:26:06
Are Liverpool trying to sign / still hold interest in Bruno Fernandes?

Some sites are saying he is close to signing for United, and others say Liverpool FC are close to the signing.


1.) 10 Jun 2019 11:19:56
Spurs are interested, especially if Eriksen leaves. They also have interest in Lo Celso. I don’t know if they want both. This has been on this site.
Any other information I’ve read is conflicting, I agree. No two sources are saying the same thing.
Type ‘Chiesa’ into the search bar to see Ed002’s comments on him.

2.) 10 Jun 2019 12:59:17
Echo have literally just put out that were set to sign 💪🏼.

3.) 10 Jun 2019 13:04:30
We hold interest as Ed has stated previously but we don’t know anything more.

We are keen to bring someone into that role.

4.) 10 Jun 2019 13:23:20
Markp08, yes interested but no approach to his club. Manchester bound very likely if not about done already.

5.) 10 Jun 2019 14:10:49
I can't see why United would be an appealing option for him other than money reasons. Attacking based midfielders, kagawa, depay, mhychatarian, di Maria, Sanchez, pogba, mata have seen their careers damaged or slowed down lately, United are currently a fresh rebuild which doesn't even seem ready to start yet, with a manager who already seems out of his depth with no champions league football. If he would choose United in this current moment over other teams it would show him as a player and person I wouldn't want anyway. He seems like a hard working commited player on the field but maybe his career ambition doesn't reflect that. I'd be amazed if any top player chose United and ole over spurs and Liverpool, poch and klopp for any sort of footballing reasons. Of course I'm presuming United aren't his only option.

6.) 10 Jun 2019 14:23:38
I get what your saying Har and I agree mate. However it seems he is swaying towards the Red half of Manchester. It will be financial reasons.

7.) 10 Jun 2019 15:37:48
Is there genuine truth to that virgil? Shocking decision the lad has made if the case. Makes no sense, a team very far away from playing a style to suit him unless ole drastically brings a complete different approach. He'd suit Liverpool city spurs or Chelsea far more.

8.) 10 Jun 2019 16:25:53
Tbh Har_red92 I’m not a so called ITK mate lol by any stretch. Just from what I can gather from here and the Itd pages and talking to others it certainly seems to be that he is heading to Utd. The very fact we’ve not even spoke to his club whilst others have says a lot. Also the cost of the guy up in the 70-80M area with us not looking to spend that amount. Will see I guess but my money would be on Utd.

9.) 10 Jun 2019 17:17:43
Yeah I always thought a 50 mil offer or roughly that ball park is what sporting would actually accept. They're not financially great and he's their only major money asset. Unless multiple teams are offering at once I couldn't see 80mil being the lowest Lisbon would accept. I get that we probably aren't fussed with that kind of fee I was just hopeful we might splurge the kind of money that was nearly spent on fekir last year. I think he'd fit us nicely, probably the best no.10 available this summer and a club with little financial strength to refuse decent bids.

10.) 10 Jun 2019 17:43:17
Agree entirely mate. I think he is the best option available and Klopp would work wonders inter grating him into the team, but doesn’t look likely. We also have Kieta and Ox who will need game time.

11.) 10 Jun 2019 18:40:30
Yeah I agree bud, for that type of money you would want to be expecting a weakness being vastly improved instead of hoping to just add to an already strong midfield. Many people still think a 10 is needed but I'm not so sure. Klopp looked to try and implement 4231 last year, I feel that was why a fekir type was wanted. I feel he's learned 433 suits us much better and a midfielder might actually be of zero importance anymore.

12.) 10 Jun 2019 21:54:46
Like he fabinho signing out of knowere, i would not be surprised that i wake up to see him signed for us, if klopp wants him. If he doesn't then I respect Klopp's plans as he knows far more about football than any of us.

{Ed025's Note - speak for yourself jammin.. :)

13.) 10 Jun 2019 22:02:38
Ed025, edit: a manager at the highest level knows a hell of a lot more than me. But would also question anyone that thinks they know more about football than one of the best managers of our time.

{Ed025's Note - its subjective jammin, and tongue in cheek at times mate..

14.) 10 Jun 2019 23:07:42
I love a deal out of nowhere. I remember kewell at the time hitting my complete surprise when I first heard. So excited for that deal, what a let down haha. And Andy Carroll out of nowhere too. Another terrible let down. Raul meireles too happened fast with no previous links.

15.) 10 Jun 2019 23:45:06
Virg if he is our top target for AM we better get a move on.

16.) 10 Jun 2019 23:49:38
We don't have any big areas of weakness anymore Har. So now we need to try and turn good or very good players to great. I still think the midfield could do with one really top addition.

17.) 10 Jun 2019 23:53:31
Yes Man Utd have been playing crap football recently but I don't think we can say that Fernandes going there would be for the money. Its possible that he is buying into the plan that Ole has (if Woodward allows him to have one) . Im going to wait and see what sort of footy they try to play next year.

18.) 11 Jun 2019 01:51:37
Possibly. I just think at this moment in time if he had options of where to move, United are the furthest behind in football attraction. No champions league and a group of players that need overhaul aplenty.

19.) 11 Jun 2019 02:48:32
Yeah mark but I think if we were to bring in a high quality midfielder, only one of OX, keita, gini, Milner, henderson could play the 8 role if fabinho in the 6. Asides from Milner, as we need his versatility. I could not choose between 1 of those to move on, we have no reason to replace any, and we can't keep them all, OX and keita offered no contribution last year. It's essentially like we have already gained 2 new players with fresh starts.

20.) 10 Jun 2019 23:19:52
Ed025 you clearly are not on here enough for people to get that scouse sense of humour mate. What are you doing with your time? Actually don't answer that, there are some things in life you just don't want to know.

{Ed025's Note - people tend to get too serious at times burkey, life is too short for seriousness all the time so im here to lighten the mood mate, hell im an evertonian for gods sake and spend most of my time crying so i come on here for respite and a way to vent my frustration, most people get me and some dont and they are the ones that make it all worthwhile.. :)

21.) 10 Jun 2019 23:21:51
I only saw your smile emoji after i replied ed025 . I'm a bit emoji unaware. Old age.

{Ed025's Note - no problem jammin mate, im old as well but still very attractive to women so it does,nt bother me so much.. :)

22.) 11 Jun 2019 07:45:00
Haha, I love Ed025's sharp snarky wit, it warms my cockles on those cold footballess nights. If ya ever need a hug or a shoulder to cry on (like when Richarlison leaves next month) I'm here for ya mate.

{Ed025's Note - thats nice to know JM,...although i would prefer it to be carol kirkwood of course mate.. :)

23.) 11 Jun 2019 08:21:37
Jaysus Ed025, that's a bit harsh. You just ain't seen me in hot-pants yet.

{Ed025's Note - even just reading that puts me in a cold sweat JM.. :)

24.) 11 Jun 2019 09:11:22
Markp08 I meant he is possibly our best option mate but not our top target I don’t think. Like I say I think he is Utd bound mate unfortunately.

25.) 11 Jun 2019 10:35:54
Ed025 is a double for George Clooney or is that George Formby🤔.

{Ed025's Note - its definitely clooney barry...unless im cleaning windows mate.. :)

26.) 11 Jun 2019 11:57:01
Or leaning on a lamppost Ed😁.

{Ed025's Note - very much so barry.. :)



28 Jan 2019 23:19:02
Looks like VVD, TAA and Gomez will all be missing on Wednesday.

We don't have much pace to deal with Vardy. Looks like we will have to defend deeper, no other option.

Just Pray VVD can get off his sick bed.


1.) 29 Jan 2019 01:56:05
guess we will have to go back to the old style of "score one more than the opposition"

2.) 29 Jan 2019 06:29:35
Nooooo. Virgil has to be ok surely, I’ve had a cold and cough last week or so but I’ve still gone to work lol.

3.) 29 Jan 2019 06:37:09
I must admit I'm quite concerned about this game going on that news, fingers crossed we can get the three points but I'm not very confident about this one.

4.) 29 Jan 2019 07:26:39
It’s going to snow in he midlands this week, maybe Vardy and Gray will simultaneously slip and twist an ankle. looks left and right)

5.) 29 Jan 2019 07:42:13
Salah, I share the same worries and thoughts mate. Could well be a struggle especially if Virgil is out. Don’t like the thought of Vardy, Gray and co running at Matip and Camacho. Are well it is what it is I guess and we will find out soon enough we’re we are at.

6.) 29 Jan 2019 07:53:34
We beat Leicester at their place earlier in the season, I have no doubt we'll see the off again tomorrow. May be a bit scrappy but I'm confident 👍.

7.) 29 Jan 2019 07:54:27
Bloody hell lads - what's going on? We have just had 11 days off, and we are playing at Anfield under the lights. Our defence and midfield will be similar to theirs but our front 3 will cause them all sorts of problems.

The team will need the support more than ever on Wednesday, stay positive. It won't all be plain sailing in winning the league.

No more negative posts.

8.) 29 Jan 2019 07:51:19
This is why our manager's use to say no one man is bigger than the club. We all start panicking because VVD is out, we just need to support the other £300M+ worth of talent we put out on the pitch.
Here's a stat to give you hope. Leicester have been beaten in the Premier league 9 times with teams that didn't contain VVD, TAA or any of our regular back line.

9.) 29 Jan 2019 07:53:34
We beat Leicester at their place earlier in the season, I have no doubt we'll see the off again tomorrow. May be a bit scrappy but I'm confident 👍.

10.) 29 Jan 2019 07:54:27
Bloody hell lads - what's going on? We have just had 11 days off, and we are playing at Anfield under the lights. Our defence and midfield will be similar to theirs but our front 3 will cause them all sorts of problems.

The team will need the support more than ever on Wednesday, stay positive. It won't all be plain sailing in winning the league.

No more negative posts.

11.) 29 Jan 2019 09:09:45
I’m no expert but I’d reckon they are more worried about our attack than we need to be about theirs.
It’ll be very difficult for them to attack at all when we smother them and bag 3 in the first half!

12.) 29 Jan 2019 10:45:56
For goodness sake, we are Liverpool, we are top of the Premier League, we are playing at home, it’s Leicester not Barcelona, they have lost 9 out of 23 Premier League games, we have got 29 points more then them - and they have got Wes Morgan and Harry Maguire in central
defence! Get a grip lads and have some faith in our manager and his squad.

13.) 29 Jan 2019 11:26:20
Have you been hanging around Walter salah? This is the first time I've seen a negative comment from you. ;)

14.) 29 Jan 2019 11:28:18
Van dijk will play unless he's still got the runs until 20 minutes before the game. He's made of stronger stuff and knows how important he is to us. I have no doubt he will play.

{Ed025's Note - gastroenteritis is a bad bug nun, if he plays i hope he does,nt lovren himself.. :)

15.) 29 Jan 2019 11:44:59
Surely you could lend him a couple of your immodiums ed25? 😉.

{Ed025's Note - either that or a pair of my lycra shorts KK.. :)

16.) 29 Jan 2019 12:49:44
If VVD sharted early in the game then that would prompt the Leicester players from getting too close - perfect solution for me.

17.) 29 Jan 2019 12:52:14
I'm confident of a 3-0 victory.

18.) 29 Jan 2019 13:28:08
I’ve seen us beat Leicester loads of times before we signed VVD and before we were anywhere near as good as we are now.
Why is everyone panicking so much?

19.) 29 Jan 2019 15:41:18
Alisson, Milner, Matip, Lovren, Robertson are enough against Leicester City.

20.) 29 Jan 2019 15:59:10
Uh no Milner maybe Camacho.

21.) 29 Jan 2019 17:34:43
Wow, a couple of injuries and this site suddenly turns in an episode of Dad's Army. Don't panic, don't panic!

22.) 29 Jan 2019 17:37:54
and I get told all season to be realistic? hypocrites.

23.) 29 Jan 2019 17:38:36
Klippertys klopp, hahaha about right mate lol.

24.) 29 Jan 2019 20:10:13
This is my worst fear. in the space of a week we will be behind city playing catch up. the league is finally lost even earlier than I expected.
Was good whilst it lasted.

25.) 29 Jan 2019 22:17:24
And suddenly its a chance to go 7 clear :)




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06 Mar 2021 16:56:16
What has happened to Mane? Christiensen who is by no means the fastest, gave Mane a start and beat him twice in a foot race. Mane is not only struggling for goals but his all round play is poor. We have become very very predictable, hopefully Jota can shake things up.


1.) 06 Mar 2021 17:19:55
Fatigue, loss of form etc etc.

2.) 06 Mar 2021 17:22:08
Mark noticed that as well mate. Also noticed Chilwell outpaced Mane and Salah at another point as well. Age catches up with everyone but they should be a few years off losing their pace at the age of 28.

{Ed077's Note - or Chilwell could be almost as fast as them? Or Chilwell had some sort of a headstart?}

3.) 06 Mar 2021 17:30:40
Ed077 all very true mate but from what I remember I can’t recall chilwell having a head start over both (but I could be wrong) . I also can’t remember when both Salah and Mane have glided past players with their pace this season. Last few seasons their pace has absolutely killed teams week in week out.

{Ed077's Note - I dont know exactly what moments you guys are discussing; my point is a player doesnt have to be faster than another to keep up in a foot race.

4.) 06 Mar 2021 17:40:46
Possible. Or maybe it’s desire and effort? If a mid table championship team for example played against Brighton or Chelsea at home, I’d expect Millwall Blackburn etc to have more than one shot on target.
We’re the Premier League champions, but playing at 50% effort.

5.) 06 Mar 2021 18:27:50
Who knows what effect C.V. had on him.
First week in living memory when I don't have a Red in my fantasy team : (.

6.) 06 Mar 2021 18:48:31
I read somewhere today that Dortmunds owner regretted letting Klopp go when he did, he wishes that he had got rid of all the players and replaced them with Klopps choices saying that Klopp can always improve players, but players rarely improve a manager.

7.) 06 Mar 2021 19:17:46
Good post Lang.

8.) 06 Mar 2021 19:43:49
Or C.V. impacts lung capacity and ability for the body to perform, the recovery times for proper function are very high. He is an elite athlete his body needs to be performing at the highest, even with people showing minimal symptoms lung capacities have been massively impacted, which for a player whose strength is pace and stamina means a lot! Not saying he solely relies on pace.

Recovery times are higher if body is not getting proper amount of oxygen, with fixture congestion that could be a reason for his lack of performance, we as by standers just don’t know.

9.) 06 Mar 2021 19:43:52
unless you're Pep and you can buy literally anyone you want. not sour grapes, actually pretty smart on his part. not that he is a bad manager, but does he improve players? I don't know. he must be pretty good though to keep the egos in check and accept their roles.

10.) 06 Mar 2021 20:25:10
That's why FSG will not let go of Klopp. If there was discontent brewing between him and FSG, there would have been hints of it. Klopp understands the financial constraints brought about by the cv, heck he has lived with constraints most of his career. Just up to Klopp to sort out each piece of the puzzle, one piece at a time. He's done it before. He'll do it again.



05 Mar 2021 09:06:32
There was much written on this page about Pep last year. He has gone stale, he micro manages, too rigid, players won't stand for it, it happened at his other clubs etc etc. What do people think now? I know he has spent vast amounts but they have found a different way to win football matches, something we have been unable to achieve.

What are people's thoughts on Pep now?


1.) 05 Mar 2021 09:25:50
He’s a check book manager!
What do you want us to say! When his defence is broken he’s buys what he needs etc! Fair play to him and city they’ve the money they can do what they want!

2.) 05 Mar 2021 09:55:18
Exactly Jay Dub.
In our position there’s no way they are bringing in Kabak on loan and Davies from Preston in January.
They would just go and get Upemacano and Koulibaly because they can.
Klopp has worked miracles with the resources he’s had but injuries to key players is bound to affect us more than City as we can’t just spend our way out of it.



01 Mar 2021 18:18:58
What is the future for AOC? The team is crushed by injuries but he still hardly ever plays. In reality he is probably 8th choice. I feel for him I really do but much like Ings I think it would be best for him to move on. Such a shame.


1.) 01 Mar 2021 18:34:35
I’m not too sure about that myself, he has had terrible luck with injuries and while he doesn’t fit the team we play at the moment (with midfielders playing more conservatively than they did back in 2017/ 18) he does offer something very different, is a good personality to have in your squad and is also an english player that helps us fill our quota, something we are struggling with as it stands.

I would hold off on selling him as i feel the system could be tweaked slightly in the summer with the coming and going of some players, so he may yet prove to be a useful asset and we can’t move everyone on at once.

Having said that maybe i’m just really biased because he seems like a great guy and i feel sorry for him with his bad injury luck, i’d much rather sell Keita though because at least i can’t fault Ox for the lack of trying.

2.) 01 Mar 2021 19:53:03
Purely because our HG quota is so low he really needs to be retained this summer.

3.) 01 Mar 2021 20:19:12
You right hjike, let’s hope he gets a full pre season.

4.) 01 Mar 2021 22:10:25
Mark, many people think AOC will run for the U. S Senate seat in New York next year and prolly run for President in 2030.

5.) 02 Mar 2021 03:02:38
I'd vote for her.

6.) 02 Mar 2021 06:23:43
Sell get some cash. Use it to strengthen. With emergence of jones AOC is now redundant, same for keita.
So i will cash in. Home grown shome grown doesn't mean nothing if he is not available 50 percent of games and doesn't get selected for remaining 50.
He is a likable lad but so was lovren. We need to be ruthless now and he will have to go for me.



27 Feb 2021 10:58:35
When Fowler and Owen were 17-18 years old I was fortunate at the time to be able to go and watch all their games. Fowler at 18 was our best player and by some distance. There are examples of the same at many other clubs. Elliot deserves his chance in pre season and hopefully up till Christmas to see if he too is ready for the first team at 17.


1.) 27 Feb 2021 11:41:01
OP, different eras, man. Even Lionel Messi was not a full time starter at Barcelona at 17 or even 18. He only became a full time starter at age 20 when Pep took over in 2008. Same with Foden, he only became a full time starter this season, his 3rd season in the first team at City.

Personally, if Klopp believes he is ready to play now at 17 then, great. If not, the kid should bide his time and b loaned out to a PL team or a top team in the Championship to continue his progression. Just my take.

2.) 27 Feb 2021 12:18:36
I think he is 18 in a couple of months, so 18 and a half by the start of a new season. Get him on the bench, flog Shaq and Origi, he can't be any worse. If he's good enough it will be no problem.

3.) 27 Feb 2021 12:46:04
I tend to agree with Irish Rover. As long as he got game time even from the bench I agree replace Shaq and/ or Origi with him. But he needs to play regularly to continue his development. He has the potential to be very special.

4.) 27 Feb 2021 13:01:48
If you look at the kids who have broken through into the PL in recent years, they tend to be physically mature beyond their years in the main.
The athletes are a lot stronger and fitter and you’d have to be very careful throwing a smaller player like Elliot in amongst that.
Admittedly I haven’t seen much of him over this season but you don’t want to sicken the lad, getting knocked around too much?
I know the Championship has a reputation for being robust butt the PL is another step up physically these days.

{Ed077's Note - you can't expect him to start contributing right away after returning from his loan spell. He is still very young.}

5.) 27 Feb 2021 14:29:15
My sentiments exactly, Ed. Many thought Foden should leave City cos he was not getting any game time at that moment a couple of years ago. He was 17/ 18 at the time. Pep did not yield to the pressure and Foden got the time he needed to develop at his own pace. Now look at him. Certain players need more time to develop and if HE is that type of player then, he should b allowed the time he needs to develop, IMO.

HE is still a kid right now and needs time to grow and sticking him on the bench after lighting it up in the Championship will do him no good, IMO. If he cannot be a viable option to call upon then he needs to b playing regularly somewhere else on loan.

{Ed077's Note - not every player is ready/developed to play PL footy at 16-17 like Rooney for example.}

6.) 27 Feb 2021 15:34:28
Also even if they are, playing them a lot at that age tends to mean their bodies are knackered by the time they are 30 which, in an era of top players maintaining their peak well into their 30s, isn't great for anyone. Let his body finish maturing even if his talent has.

{Ed077's Note - well you have a point. Rooney ( the example I used) is already retired after spending a few years playing at a "lower level" and is now a coach at Derby County whilst CR7 who is a little bit older than WR is still one of the best players in the world. Managing the progress of youth players is a very nuanced thing. Can't overplay or play them before they are ready but also can't keep denying them minutes without stalling their progress.its a very fine line. But I think Klopp is very well experienced at bringing through exciting young players.}

7.) 27 Feb 2021 19:51:26
Foden didn't go on loan though Oli. He stayed at City, accepted his role as a squad player, and learned every day in training how to conduct himself at the highest level from players like Kompany and Silva.

Elliott would definitely learn more on that side of things training alongside Salah, Virgil and Hendo. This loan has been perfect though, i admit. Blackburn are under no pressure so he is playing regularly and with freedom. They're also based very close to Liverpool.

However, how would he fair on loan at a team like Brighton if results start going against them and the manager had the classic response? Loan players become the scapegoat, and senior players get called on. Or maybe he goes to Leeds and they are suddenly in a relegation battle? Bielsa walks, Allardyce or Pulis come in to steady the ship and Elliott is cast aside because he's not 6ft3.

Loans are risky. He needed a loan to bulk up and get used to being roughed up by men as he looked physically weak last season. I just really strongly believe he is best off being coached by Klopp, than guys like Mowbray. Of course i fully respect your right to disagree though.

8.) 27 Feb 2021 22:22:38
I agree with most of what you say MK, apart from the criticism of Mowbray, he’s been very supportive of Elliott and been encouraging senior players to get the ball to him as often as possible and given him the space to play. I’m pretty convinced that Elliott being in and around the first team next year would benefit us hugely, I’d like to see him take Shaqiri’s place in the squad. He’ll get games and put pressure on those in front of him.



22 Jan 2021 13:54:36
I picked a bad month to stop drinking! Watching the last few matches without a beer was torture, I nearly went to watch Eastenders with the Mrs.


1.) 22 Jan 2021 14:00:54
Patience and Perseverance markp08
It will soon be a lot easier to navigate everything mate. Liverpool's slump will have to come to an end sooner or later mate and then you will be happier for being sober.

Remember the night is darkest right before it's dawn.




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06 Mar 2021 12:54:23
It has to be classed as a mistake as he is thought not to be good enough to give a knackered Robbo a rest. The lad at Everton would have been a much better buy, good lb and plays even better in the centre. that's what we need IMO a player who can play both positions.




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06 Mar 2021 10:52:55
We don’t often make mistakes in the market but this is definitely one. There were much better options available.




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19 Feb 2021 23:49:27
He is about as good a finisher as Firmino 😂. Oh oh calm down, even if it’s true.


{Ed002's Note - Going on from what Ed001 said, Liverpool need to work with Eliott and forget the likes of Starr and Traore. I actually don’t get what Klopp sees in Traore.}



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11 Feb 2021 13:42:59
I feel sorry for OX when he got injured he was our best midfielder, on top of his game. I really worry he will never be the same again, we do need a player like a fit OX.

Bissouma can certainly get round the park and looks excellant at winning the ball back. I have watched him a limited amount but his passsing looks limited to me, sort of Gini level. We do need some increased energy though and he certainly has that.




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30 Jan 2021 21:25:52
Ed? I can’t agree with you on this one. We need someone and he is better than our back ups atm. This signing makes top 4 much more likely.





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06 Mar 2021 20:45:00
Layton Stewart.




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06 Mar 2021 19:17:46
Good post Lang.




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06 Mar 2021 18:30:53
Got it Jk mate.




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06 Mar 2021 16:52:21
JK - Firmino has been getting pelters for many months and critisism from all angles, way more than Thiago. Deserved btw, Trent also has had his share of flak. You are correct though on Mane his form has fallen off a cliff.




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06 Mar 2021 14:26:51
A special player no doubt. But at the moment he is having a negative impact on the team. He doesn’t help with attacking or defending and his confidence is down. He would be much better used as a sub with 20 minutes to go. Are you saying in is worth his place in the team atm Mikey?