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31 Jul 2021 16:38:45
Ed2 is it true Saul Niguez reps are in England this week, to finalise a transfer and do you see him going to Liverpool or Man u?

Mighty reds

{Ed002's Note - I really don’t know where they are but Atletico have been speaking with Manchester United in recent days.}


1.) 31 Jul 2021 20:11:16
Pogba off to PSG then I imagine.


2.) 31 Jul 2021 20:39:57
Noooooooooooooo………… please not Man U!

{Ed0666's Note - and let the meltdown begin.


3.) 31 Jul 2021 21:32:44
Is it me or is saul is not what we need 😳.


4.) 31 Jul 2021 21:46:28
Let the Meltdown begin?

ED, I am already there.


5.) 31 Jul 2021 22:14:25
He’ll go to United. We’ll end up with some dross like Sanches or Ramsey. Or be told that it’s the fourth coming of “Naby la”. Fingers crossed that Henderson and Fabinho make it through the season unscathed or we’ll struggle massively.


6.) 31 Jul 2021 22:35:09
Start of the decline this. It’s Souness esc. We’ve actually seen it before. Ageing squad, reluctant to spend, United capitalising on their big money whilst everyone else struggles financially. Luckily we have Klopp because soon we won’t and Stevie will be the one it crumbles around trying to replace a team full of 33 year olds with no money.

{Ed0666's Note - two words last won is…OFF and the first one begins with F


7.) 31 Jul 2021 22:37:00
Writing the season off based on a rumour.
Quality stuff.


8.) 31 Jul 2021 22:23:18
Hi Ed, knowing good relationship between LFC and Southampton (i. e. Lallana, Clyne, Lovren, Mane, VVD, Ings and Taki) . is there any chances that LFC is interested in James Ward-Prowse for Gini's replacement? HG players, national team and EPL experienced player.


9.) 31 Jul 2021 23:17:30
What is all this rubbish of "needing a Gini replacement"? According to the experts on here all last season Gini was "a ghost, didn't influence a game, went missing" etc. So answer me why a fella who, according to the experts on here, did nothing needs replacing?


10.) 01 Aug 2021 00:09:39
Saul niguez was offered to us and we turned it down too expensive.

{Ed0666's Note - how do you know?


11.) 01 Aug 2021 00:32:25
In my opinion it would be very naive to think that Gini's mobility, energy, consistency and workrate doesn't need replacing.

Henderson, Thiago and Fabinho look the starting midfield trio, however, over a full and demanding season will they be able to stand up to the rigours? . if history is anything to go by, probably not.

A club like ours needs, (and should have) players who can really push for first team place (s), if they are not in the first eleven then they need to be pushing those that are, not simply "happy" to be a squad player or content to be on the bench . and if they are selected to be on the bench then when they do get a game they need to be of a level that poses Kloop a true conundrum - "I deserve to start", why? because I am just as good if not better than so and so.

Unfortunately for too long, our first eleven has been excellent and ultra competitive, but after that the level drops.

If Naby could "step up" and produce his Leipzig form, then perhaps we could manage, however that is a big "if", and let's face it, he hasn't been devoid of injury for long enough to even suggest he might - will that change this season/

Curtis Jones has talent, no argument, but for mine simply isn't consistent enough nor is his work rate high enough to command a regular first team place.


12.) 01 Aug 2021 00:35:28
What is with the doom and gloom, Klopp leaves Pep takes over does not one else see that? Ageing Squad Behave yourself, Trent (future captain), Konate, Gomez, Jones and Elliot is a good crop of talent to become the mid 30's replacements to worry about in the future. Bidding for Saul requires space in our squad and until that problem is solved I do not see LFC doing any business, but I do see LFC buying 2 quality midfielders either over this and the next 2 transfer windows . so CALM DOWN!


13.) 01 Aug 2021 00:38:02
Oh mane mane, we need another midfielder because our options beyond Henderson and Fabinho are not good.

Imagine going against any decent side with Milner, Keita and whoever, we’d get battered. Wijnaldum was being asked to play holding midfielder when both Henderson and Fabinho weren’t being played in midfield which affected his performances as that’s just not in his skill set. Look at our options, we’ve got Thiago who isn’t a midfield anchor and needs to play alongside Fabinho and Henderson to function properly, Milner who is over the hill and not really a centre midfielder (and it shows), Keita who is one of the worst signings the club has ever made and in 3 years has never shown any capacity to play at this level, Ox who isn’t really a centre midfielder and is injury prone, Jones who shows promise but is still too naive in the way he plays.

Given that the functioning of the midfield is critical to the way we play, not replacing Wijnaldum with quality is somewhere between short sighted and extremely negligent.


14.) 01 Aug 2021 00:49:13
'Oh Mane Mane', Before you called it a 'Rubbish', you have to know the statistics that Gini is almost always involve in every LFC's matches for his last 5 years. 20/ 21 he was played 37 matches (4 comes from subs), 19/ 20: 37 matches (2 from subs), 18/ 19: 35 (3 from subs), 17/ 18: 33 (6 from subs), 16/ 17: 36 (3 from subs) ; in average of 96%, Gini has involved in his last 5 years EPL matches. (1st reply)


15.) 01 Aug 2021 00:54:42
Kindly be informed 'Oh Mane Mane' that I haven't mention how many times Gini has involved in UCL, FA, Carabao, World Club Cup, European Super Cup matches. You cannot judge a player in one season, especially after his contribution with results as LFC as a UCL finalist, 2nd position in EPL with only 1 point difference with City, UCL trophy, Super Cup trophy, World Club trophy and EPL trophy. And do you think, LFC achievement in the middle of DC crisis situation on the last season with 3rd position (pushed back from 6th/ 7th position to 3rd) in EPL and quarter final of UCL, is not because of one of Gini's contribution as a team? . (2nd reply)


16.) 01 Aug 2021 00:56:34
So c'mon 'Oh Mane Mane' be realistic. Absolutely we don't want to see our late to find replacement for Lovren even as a back up Central Defender last season will happening again on Gini's case next season. . (3rd/ final reply) .


17.) 01 Aug 2021 02:38:18
we have heaps of midfielders. We can't just keep adding to that group to cover every injury possibility.


18.) 01 Aug 2021 04:40:28
We need goals
Whether that’s from midfield or out wide or from a out and out striker, we need two players minimum to compete this season
Personally I think we are missing a top opportunity with Saul who is very good, and I would take Bowen as a rotating wide forward.


19.) 01 Aug 2021 04:56:08
If you are going to cry about Liverpool not signing anyone else at least wait until the window actually closes and save the rest of us from these embarrassing tantrums every other day.


20.) 01 Aug 2021 07:37:11
Correct Thunder I will be stomping around if we don’t sign anyone else. But there is a month left of the window, of course we will sign one or two players and that is all we need.


21.) 01 Aug 2021 13:27:13
What a bunch of drama Queens. Seriously. Klopp wants Florian Neuhaus, and he'll find a way to get him in. The perfect choice as far as I'm concerned. Just needs some coaching on the defensive side of his game, the same way that Wijnaldum was coached. Ready made replacement for Henderson in the future, when it's time.


22.) 01 Aug 2021 15:43:44
It's absolutely comical what transfer fever does to some fans.
Reading this lot back is hilarious.


23.) 01 Aug 2021 16:51:17
It’s clear as day we need a goal scoring midfielder, it killed us last season because of the form of the front three (well Salah aside) . A player in the Coutinho mould would solve a lot of those headaches. Unless someone tells me Jones is the answer.


24.) 01 Aug 2021 21:38:36
Long term Jones could well be the answer.
It's up to him to grab the chances he's given.
I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve by denigrating one of our youngsters coming through.


 

 

29 Jul 2021 16:15:54
Ed2 do you see Liverpool holding onto Phillips until January at least, until Virgil and Gomez have had time to get upto speed?

Mighty reds

{Ed002's Note - NP is on the to sell list to raise funds but the asking price is again an issue.}


1.) 29 Jul 2021 21:12:19
What is point in selling him, if we have so many HG issues?


2.) 29 Jul 2021 21:35:30
How is 15m over the top for NP? He is a solid EPL mid table CB, and English, so why should he be sold on the cheap? If white is worth 50m, surely nat is worth less than 1/ 3rd.


3.) 30 Jul 2021 00:22:14
Well West Ham fans seem to think 15m is what Zouma is worth and he’s a full French international with like 5-6 top flight seasons in the EPL. Even putting aside the English premium I’d say NP is worth half what Zouma is imo.


4.) 30 Jul 2021 06:56:00
Good thing that the valuation depends on what Liverpool and Chelsea think, and not West Hame fans.


5.) 30 Jul 2021 10:27:37
Walkon- if he’s not going to play it doesn’t really matter if he’s home grown or not. He’s probably 5th choice and his stock is high so probably a good time to sell. I’d personally prefer to sell Matip but he might be tough to shift with his wage and injury record.


6.) 30 Jul 2021 09:35:16
Fuses how is Zouma worth double what Nat Phillips is worth, He is nearly 3 years older than Nat and in my opinion Nat is the better defender not as good on the ball or have Zouma‘s pace but from what I have seen of them both Zouma seem to have more mistakes in him. I hope Nat gets a move Burnley would be the best move for him and would suit them down to the ground and is worth every penny of £15m if White is worth £50m after both having one season in top flight. If Nat had played a full season next to a fully fit VVD how good would he have looked he came into a very hard situation and under loads more pressure than white and having to play a very high line what is not going to suit Nat’s game because of his lack of pace.


7.) 30 Jul 2021 12:41:20
You think Phillips is better than Zouma based on the 15PL games he’s played in comparison the the 150 or so Zouma has played?

{Ed001's Note - fitness would be a big thing, Zouma has had major injuries, which massively reduces value as they do damage to the body in the long term.}


8.) 30 Jul 2021 13:37:09
Nat Philips played 17 league games and 3 champions league games and played very well Ben White played 36 league games and is worth £50m. And yes I do think Phillips is a better defender far better in the air and 20 games was enough to seer to come in under the pressure he was in as the team was in awful form and be one of the biggest factors in changing that and helping us finish in the top 3 with a season where are central defenders missed most of the season and are main 3 central midfielders missed big parts of the season yet we still managed to finish above Chelsea in the league.


9.) 30 Jul 2021 14:08:05
Boro managed to extract £15m for Ben Gibson and Phillips is miles better than him, Phillips is at least as good as someone like Michael Keane and he went for over £20m, so £15m seems very reasonable for a competent young English centre back. Personally I’d rather sell the injury prone Matip, but it is what it is. If the sale results in us buying a top quality midfielder like Saul, Bisoumma, Neuhaus or Locatelli, then the ends justify the means.


10.) 30 Jul 2021 14:11:36
Players from the Championship have gone for far more then £15m. Phillips is IMO proven premiership, As he was clearly part of taking a fallen (through injury) title winning team, from struggling to make European competition to finishing 3rd. £15m. If it was through respect and thinking of Nat above my selfish fan-tinted glasses. I’d keep him. Right age, English/ HG, proven, solid character. Can we buy a Nat Phillips for £15m?
I’d suggest if pace is the main issue, that if Nat had been a regular at a team like Burnley or Brighton and had a couple of seasons like the last. He’s be linked with many for twice the £15m. Including us. (See £80m Maguire if unsure. 5/ 6 times the player and value? )


11.) 30 Jul 2021 19:02:55
Get rid of Matip. Decent player, on big money, but made of twigs. We have virgil, joe, new lad, Nat, rhys couple of youngsters, and some cms if needed. Although let's hope not. How many cbs does a team need? Matip needs to seriously go though. What's the point in having someone no matter how good they are, if they are rarely available? Wouldn't happen in my job, I know that.
We all want a versatile forward who can cover all positions.
What id love is a versatile fb who can adequately cover both fb positions. Denis Irwin, where are you?

P S throw keita in as a sweetener with matip.

{Ed0666's Note - whose gonna take Joel on the massive wages he’s on with his injury record? Do you really think he will accept taking less wages? Come on mate think about what you post?


12.) 30 Jul 2021 20:32:30
So we're the ones that continue to pay his massive wages, and for what? A monthly cameo here and there? Not for me, he's thrice the player Phillips is, but frustratingly unreliable. Give me someone reliable, any day of the week. If even for the last ten minutes. Phillips would try and head a comet out of the box
Matip? He crumbles at the hint of a breeze.


13.) 30 Jul 2021 22:51:28
Yes we continue "to pay his massive wages" because we are the idiots who gave him the contract on the massive wages. Would you take a pay cut at your job? Would you f*ck so why should he?


14.) 31 Jul 2021 00:11:18
Ed001 didn't Zouma only have the one major injury just before he went on loan to Everton? Maybe I’ve missed them but he might have picked up smaller injuries. My point was more that you can’t really tell if a player is going through a hot spell in a certain environment or whether they’re consistently good on the basis of 15-20 games at the highest level.
Whereas Zouma has shown that he can play to a certain level IMO.

{Ed001's Note - I am sure he has had at least 2 and also displayed inconsistency throughout his career.}


15.) 30 Jul 2021 21:35:53
Well I think Phillips did an excellent job standing in last season he clearly is a championship level defender. Ben white is a quality premier league defender with huge potential. Any comparison made is naive. Matip is a great player but being injury prone is a real shame. Offloading him would be near impossible until his contract expires. Zouma is a decent Prem player. Gibson can play a bit joined the wrong club imo. But Philips as much as I like him can’t play, he's a great defender but he’s not a great footballer. Anyway konate VVD matip and gomez should be enough to compete.


16.) 31 Jul 2021 09:59:49
Had a check, since 2011 Zouma has missed 45 games, so average of 4 games a season. One major knee injury in 11 and cruciate in 15.

{Ed001's Note - I thought it was 2. Both are knee injuries.}


 

 

21 Jul 2021 08:45:15
Ed2 have we made a bid for Saul and did it include either Shaqiri or Henderson?

Mighty reds

{Ed002's Note - Saul Niguez (CM) Nobody will pay his release clause, but Atletico could look to a very high fee for a player who has a contract that runs for years in order to get his €300k weekly wage off the books. Bayern Munich's first choice to add for midfield and his agent has spoken with several sides as Atletico want to make very significant savings on salaries and could be forced into a corner by the player and his agent. But Bayern see his cash price at €60M (or €75M on terms) and wages of €300k as too high and will want to negotiate - they will almost certainly turn elsewhere. He is being offered to the usual suspects who have money – Barcelona (who would need to include players in a deal), Manchester United (who would need to offload Pogba), Juventus, Manchester City, PSG, Chelsea as a Kovacic replacement - many of which are looking to add a player in his position, but his wages are a major issue for most. Atletico have effectively signed his replacement in de Paul but may make other midfield changes as well. I am not aware of any bid from Liverpool to Atletico at this time, but he would be an excellent choice, but a lot more expensive than other options. Atletico have said that there has been a discussion with Barcelona. Atletico would prefer the cash to having any players involved in a deal. Other clubs could become involved if players are sold, Pogba for instance.}


1.) 21 Jul 2021 09:49:38
ED002 - hope you are well this morning.

Can I ask - do you happen to know if Saul Niguez is prepared to take pay cut on his €300k a week wages or is he happy to stay at AM and run his contract down, until a club agrees to match, or get somewhere near his current deal?

Also, you recently stated his release clause is €150M but nobody is prepared to match it but AM would consider a high fee for him - do you know how much AM would accept?

Regards,

Kemlyn.

{Ed002's Note - His contract has five years to run so he won't be running it down. It has been mentioned to another club that €75M would be enough.}


2.) 21 Jul 2021 09:59:52
That would put the price to circa £65million. If that's the price they're expecting then this move is almost certainly not happening. Especially if Bissouma would be cheaper and supposedly we would struggle to afford that also.


3.) 21 Jul 2021 10:01:21
Thanks ED002 - those figures still seem way out of our league unless the club make an unexpected sale I guess

Regards,

Kemlyn.


4.) 21 Jul 2021 14:36:04
I would fancy Eduards getting that 75m euro down a little bit more. If we went for him anyway. I think unless we manage to have a good clear out of players and get good money for them there is no chance we are affording that. Kieta for example, but who’s paying good money for him or any other of our fringe players let’s be honest, we are not the only club out there who’s skint, nobody’s got the money to take punts on our reserves.


5.) 21 Jul 2021 19:56:54
With pogba possibly off Man U could snap him up.


 

 

20 Jul 2021 11:37:08
Ed2 is Nat Phillips going to Brighton as replacement for White?

Mighty reds

{Ed002's Note - Brighton have him as their preferred option of two players they have identified.}


1.) 20 Jul 2021 12:24:02
Cheers ed2.


2.) 20 Jul 2021 12:28:52
Gutted to see him leave, he'd never be better than 4th choice at the moment to be fair but he's kinda earned that cult status.

Sure he'd do well at a bottom half prem team where he'll spend most of the game making clearances.


3.) 20 Jul 2021 13:35:16
he deserves an opportunity to make a name for himself somewhere he is going to be a regular.

really impressed with how he grasped his opportunity and grew into the role each game he played!


4.) 20 Jul 2021 15:04:54
Knowing Brighton got 50m from arsenal I'm sure Edwards will try to get 20 for nat which is decent business tbf.


5.) 20 Jul 2021 17:44:01
Not quite good enough for a team looking to win the prem but I was impressed with how he took his chance with us last season and, as others have said, he absolutely deserves the opportunity to be a first choice CB somewhere! Good luck to the lad I say, hope he does well (but not against us of course) .


6.) 20 Jul 2021 16:10:55
Not sure we would be looking for more, we would have surely been looking at £2.5M or something for him last summer.

Would prefer to keep him myself but Klopp has other ideas.


 

 

16 Jul 2021 16:34:40
Ed2 are Madrid trying to sign Salah?

Mighty reds

{Ed002's Note - Mo Salah (RW/F) Liverpool could cash in to fund transfers but there is no clear interest at this time after he and his agent pricing him out of a move with previous attempts to leave. His "representative" has again been doing the rounds this time also asking Bayern Munich, PSG and surprisingly Chelsea if they are interested. I suspect that Barcelona and Real Madrid may also have been approached again. Liverpool will likely look to a new contract but don't be surprised of an offer from PSG but there is nothing right now. Real Madrid have other targets.


1.) 16 Jul 2021 20:14:06
Salah will go anywhere that flashes him a large wedge.


2.) 16 Jul 2021 20:15:22
Unless it meant getting Mbappe or Haaland for their youth and goals, the sale of Salah is just madness. It would take Liverpool from Prem/ ULC contenders, to 4th - 6th.
But we did sell Suarez and replace him with Lambert so it can happen at our club 😂.


3.) 16 Jul 2021 20:15:08
Is money motivating his desire to leave Ed002.

{Ed002's Note - At his age he has lost the high-money and poster boy opportunity.}


4.) 16 Jul 2021 20:29:33
Considering his age Salah could be the most expensive player on the market today.


5.) 16 Jul 2021 20:40:56
Selling Salah would end any chance of challenging next season. There’s no chance that Mbappe or Haaland would come because of the transfer fee, wages and agents fees involved. I can’t think of one player that we can realistically bring in to replace him.


6.) 16 Jul 2021 23:55:18
I remember when we signed a winger from Roma who'd only scored about 15 goals the previous season. "Chelsea reject" i think they called him at the time.

Then he smashed in 44 goals in his debut season and broke the Premier League 38 game record which nobody thought could be broken. Not bad eh?

If Salah leaves then i will be truly gutted. He's the ome of the top 5 players to play for Liverpool in my lifetime and he is criminally under rated. But the same people who pulled him out of nowhere, will pull another gem out the back pocket if they're called upon.


7.) 16 Jul 2021 23:57:40
Lucky we don't have to do the thinking. We didn't think of bringing in Salah, Bobby, or mane either did we. Every player is replaceable, and will eventually have to be replaced.


8.) 17 Jul 2021 00:16:33
Salah will eventually leave, like all players have to. I guess we have to think what the best outcome is.

Bet anyone anything, if he's still here in 2 seasons when "his legs have gone" or whatever injuries catch him up, plenty will be saying we should have sold him when we could have got decent money "and invested in" whoever. Mbappe, Haarland, etc.

{Ed0666's Note - come on mate we’re never gonna get Mbappe or Haaland those are pipe dreams! We mayne on the top table when it’s comes to playing football but we do t eat at the top table when it comes to transfers. At best we done at the table that’s next. This is not a slight on the owners just reality as I’m good with where we done. It’s made us who we are today.


9.) 17 Jul 2021 04:19:17
The people running the club managed to buy Salah and Mane for reasonable fees didn’t they - what’s to stop them doing the same again. Oh yes hey also managed to win the Champions League and EPL too .

The people falling over themselves to say we don’t want x, y or z bear quite a resemblance to those who didn’t want Salah, Mane, Wijnaldum, Robinson, Henderson etc, etc, when they signed.

Whilst it’s a fans forum and we all have an opinion and some of us gave experience of playing Premier League Manager etc., perhaps we could put a bit of trust in the people being paid to run the club?


10.) 17 Jul 2021 07:22:29
The people running the club also bought Balotelli, Lambert, Borini, Markovic and Carroll. Let’s not sit here and pretend that replacing Salah is going to be easy or that we’ll even do it adequately, specifically when you look at the names bandied about, it should terrify you, it’s been said on countless occasions that they’d seriously consider bringing in Traore or Sarr (neither of whom are fit to lace his boots) as a replacement for Salah, there’s absolutely no way that the owners will spend on a top class forward, or even from the tier below that. They’ll try and do it on the cheap.

{Ed001's Note - those are Klopp's choices. The owners don't do recruitment.}


11.) 17 Jul 2021 08:27:07
We do not rely on one player anymore as the club is run well in that respect. Gone are the days of one man teams w Luis or Stevie Me.
We can sell anyone and make a new star player, which is where the real skill lies, so if Mo wants to leave to get paid more, that's his prerogative. People who think players should be loyal need to get a grip, as most of those same people would gladly goto a new job that paid them double if it helped them and their families situation.
Id be happy to see all of the front 3 leave and to rebuild with mid level players, its much more fun than playing the city way.
The very fact that we can be this confident and not worry about transfers anymore is an absolute gift.


12.) 17 Jul 2021 08:49:35
VVVV literally all those players you mentioned were under the previous management regime. It’s a tad snobbish to say that Traore and Sarr aren’t fit to lace anyone’s boots. When we were signing players from Newcastle, Southampton, Hull etc they weren’t exactly world class players and I’m sure people reacted similarly and were proven wrong. This isn’t FIFA or Football Manager mate.


13.) 17 Jul 2021 09:06:32
Selling Salah would make us considerably weaker, he’s our best forward player.


14.) 17 Jul 2021 11:31:27
Sarr and Traore are both very good footballers, whoever Klopp brings in i trust.


15.) 17 Jul 2021 12:09:25
All the players listed were signed under FSG’s ownership.

It’s not snobbish at all. Neither of Traore or Sarr are remotely capable of replacing Salah’s contribution. That’s just a matter of truth.


16.) 17 Jul 2021 13:17:18
More often than not, players are improved by working with Klopp (and the coaching staff) so players that we're linked with aren't necessarily the finished article. Players who have as yet unrealised potential are ideal for us.


17.) 17 Jul 2021 14:14:38
It really bothers me that his reps have reached out to Chelsea. I don't understand why they would do that other than they believe they can milk them for a new big contract.


18.) 17 Jul 2021 08:41:53
Hey Ed666 - I agree and for me it makes it all the sweeter winning trophies doing it that way. Shows off Klopp and teams amazing talents when it comes to coaching and improving players.

{Ed0666's Note - agreed mate


19.) 17 Jul 2021 15:04:43
Going nowhere, all part of the bargaining over a new contract. Salah will definitely be with us next year 100%.


20.) 17 Jul 2021 15:26:14
Signing a roughly 30 goal a season inside forward/ winger like Salah will always be difficult which is why we won’t try to. We make those players not buy them. Salah wasn’t hitting those numbers before he joined us. Any recruitment is risky, I personally somewhat agree with VVVV I’m that Traore and Sarr are not the best choices, but if Klopp reckons he can turn one of or both of those two into world beater then I think he has done enough to be trusted by the fans.


21.) 17 Jul 2021 16:24:57
In saying those (transfers are klopps choice) I'm sure they say you
Got so much deal with it. If it was klopps choice then mbappe would be coming.

{Ed001's Note - what is your point? That is the same at every club, but it is not the owners setting the budget, the club runs itself.}


22.) 17 Jul 2021 17:41:33
I don't know where anyone is getting this info from but Salah is going nowhere.


23.) 17 Jul 2021 17:46:24
How is it we don’t eat at the top table with transfers? We for a week had the most expensive keeper in football at £67m
The most expensive CB for a season at £75m
Regular bench/ sub players Keita, Ox and Jota cost £120m
Even our bargain hunting forward line cost £100m to put together. Isn’t that still the most expensive in the EPL? Or maybe second to Chelsea?
Just wondering the thought process behind the week don’t spend money’ comes from?


24.) 17 Jul 2021 18:14:00
I think people need to look at where players like Salah, Mane, Robertson, Wijnaldum, Van Dijk . were at performance wise before they played under Jurgen Norbert Klopp. As long as we have Klopp we have a chance of competing for the big prizes.


25.) 17 Jul 2021 20:53:36
I don't think he grasps that that club can't spend what they don't have Ed. so weather the club has 250,000 to spend or 250m the choice is klopps not the owners.


26.) 18 Jul 2021 05:17:08
Actually Salah was Edwards choice, Klopp wanted a german player, so its not quite as straight forward as always Klopps choice. The data/ research plays such a big part, and so it should so that we don't end up with Paul stewarts and Razor Ruddocks.

{Ed001's Note - it was not Edwards' choice at all. Klopp was after Brandt, couldn't get him but then was convinced by the club's data analysts to go for Salah. Klopp made the decision.}


27.) 18 Jul 2021 10:52:54
Thanks Ed001. Still, how different things are these days compared to the Sou-mess era re signings.

{Ed001's Note - very true. Souness didn't understand that you needed players to be able to do more than kick opponents into submission. He just bought a team of thugs that didn't deserve to wear the shirt.}


28.) 18 Jul 2021 12:10:09
There's an old interview going round where Klopp says he had Edwards, Dave Fallows and Barry Hunter in his ear everyday telling him Salah was the solution until they convinced Klopp to say yes. So I think the whole scouting/ recruitment team had input on Salah.


29.) 18 Jul 2021 13:26:31
I am so glad that those days are gone. Buying Diouf and Diao cause they had a coupe of good games in a world cup is like shopping on wish because the advert told you the product was good.


 

 

 

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31 Jul 2021 14:55:13
Bowen as been omitted from the West Ham squad after training all week, very interesting.

Mighty reds

1.) 31 Jul 2021 15:09:01
Due to injury.


2.) 31 Jul 2021 15:10:02
I think he would be a top signing as well.


3.) 31 Jul 2021 15:16:39
Monkey is that not the excuse all the time.


4.) 31 Jul 2021 15:18:18
Could be anything, OP. Wouldn’t pay too much attention to it.


5.) 31 Jul 2021 15:26:34
He is a perfect shaqiri replacement, I have liked him since his Hull days he is a typical klopp signing due to his workrate, tracking back and a menace going forward.


6.) 31 Jul 2021 15:42:25
Agree Hailstones.


7.) 31 Jul 2021 15:55:22
Same agent as Trent and Robbo. Any bearing on transfers?


8.) 31 Jul 2021 16:46:30
Gordon can replace Shaquiri.


9.) 31 Jul 2021 17:17:22
IMO, we can do a lot better than Bowen who will be very expensive for a backup cos he is English and WH don’t need to sell. Seems a desperate attempt to overpay just to someone in. We’ll wait and see.


10.) 31 Jul 2021 17:25:28
To be fair he scores goals, he is a very good finisher and we do lack that. If Bowen is around £30m it’s a good signing.


11.) 31 Jul 2021 17:32:19
Bowen would be a waste of money. Id rather give young Gordon a shot if Bowen is the best we can do this summer.


12.) 31 Jul 2021 17:45:15
"We need a signing, anyone" followed by "no not that one".


13.) 31 Jul 2021 18:10:30
If it was the choice between Bowen and Traore, then it would be Bowen all day long.

{Ed0666's Note - they’re both poor choices


14.) 31 Jul 2021 18:21:51
Bowen is actually pretty good and I think he is someone tha the LFC coaches could improve.

Bowen has the potential to go up to top 4 level I think.


15.) 31 Jul 2021 18:55:41
Ed0666, personally I think we should have a look at Domenico Berrardi, he’s been scoring a decent amount of goals at the top level for years, is a very versatile forward and he works hard for the team, plus he’d not cost much more than the others we’ve looked at.

{Ed0666's Note - I think David at Lille would be ideal for us. Can play anywhere across the front, pacy, can score a goal and would be a great addition.


16.) 31 Jul 2021 20:13:16
Knowing Lille they’d be asking Victor Osimhen/ Nicolas Pepe money for him, which is a lot for a forward from the French league.


17.) 31 Jul 2021 20:26:20
If we can't afford Raphinha or someone of his calibre then we should stick with what we have. Signing for the sake of signing will clog up the squad and Traore or Bowen would likely be "surplus to requirements" in two years time again.


18.) 31 Jul 2021 20:42:23
100% Sean but what about the whingers that want a shiny new toy to look at?


19.) 31 Jul 2021 21:36:21
Shiny new toy or just necessary reinforcements? Or do you naively think Harvey Elliot will be Messi next season?


20.) 31 Jul 2021 23:13:59
Ask the German fella that's paid to make them decisions. You know the German fella that has forgotten more than you'll ever know about football. Not my job on the line if it doesn't work out for him is it?


21.) 01 Aug 2021 02:53:09
Bowen might be an option as West Ham take Clearpay.


22.) 01 Aug 2021 17:22:03
@IPC12 another silly post - so based on your post you think Bowen or Adama Traore would be as good as Messi next season do you?


 

 

22 Jul 2021 12:40:15
Ed2 if your about do Liverpool hold an interest in Ruben Neves?

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{Ed002's Note - No. He will be moving elsewhere.}


1.) 22 Jul 2021 15:19:26
could be wrong but thought he was off to Arsenal.

{Ed002's Note - Or somewhere else.}


2.) 22 Jul 2021 16:16:03
Ok thanks ED2.


3.) 22 Jul 2021 16:24:28
Utd as a replacement for Pogba. Not sure how true that is as they are very diff players.


4.) 23 Jul 2021 12:36:18
There's a big difference in quality between Pogba and Névés. The only common thing they have is that both are over rated.


 

 

12 Jul 2021 18:02:13
Anyway looking forward to the new season, would just like to talk about Curtis Jones, a little bit more pressure will be applied to him this season, as last season was his first full with the first team, what hopes do people have for him? can he nail down a first team place?

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1.) 12 Jul 2021 18:09:52
All he can do is hoof and rush because he is English right?


2.) 12 Jul 2021 18:19:36
He has a lot of potential for sure. I like his neat and tidy play and he’s evidently an elegant player. I’d like to see him be a little more adventurous, more penetration in his passing and his interlink play. Most importantly, he needs to chip in with goals.


3.) 12 Jul 2021 18:24:05
If he keeps working hard then I have no doubt we will be seeing the best of him!


4.) 12 Jul 2021 18:33:06
Hahaha Thunderbird that really chuckled me lol.


5.) 12 Jul 2021 19:03:27
Breakout year. international debut by end of season.

{Ed0666's Note - will he be in tne squad to go to the World Cup tho?


6.) 12 Jul 2021 19:35:49
The boy has certainly got talent. I expect him to kick on next season, I think he is 20 years old now, time for him to show what he can do. Does he make the World Cup squad? He will if he has the right attitude but he will need to be a Liverpool starter by then.


7.) 12 Jul 2021 20:14:36
I think CJ played a potboiler than was previewed by the coaches and he handled the workload very well in the main. Of course, his legs went and got jaded a bit and was later injured and that kind of slowed him down BUT in the games he played, I felt he more than held his own esp in the bigger games.

I expect Holbrook kick incandescent be a much more prominent first teamer. CJ is a hard worker witch’s good work ethic and you know you won’t play for Klopp if you are a slacker. Just ask Naby. Really excited for him.


8.) 12 Jul 2021 20:25:43
Spell check issues Oli?! 🤷‍♂️😂.


9.) 12 Jul 2021 20:42:20
If he's a L'pool regular by the end of 2022 i would assume he'd be on the plane to Qatar.

{Ed025's Note - only if he trains to be a pilot or stewardess JH, has shown very little up to now mate, typical bigging up of a player who plays for liverpool again..


10.) 12 Jul 2021 20:12:09
Oh dear Thunderbird having a bad day are we?


11.) 12 Jul 2021 20:58:26
He did show a fair bit while beating Everton with Liverpool's U21s didn't he Ed025.

{Ed025's Note - he scored a fine goal reet but you cant live on that for 2 years mate, he could come good you never know but my gut says he is too slow and will end up in a lower division....just an opinion mind..


12.) 12 Jul 2021 21:17:33
If Liverpool move to a 4-2-3-1 type formation on a regular basis, I can see Curtis Jones excelling. We might even get a tune out of Keita playing it as well.
I’m not sure how suited Jones is to a midfield 3 though, it doesn’t feel as if it is in his natural inclination to play like that, at 100mph.

{Ed025's Note - yeah i can see that juicer, jones and keita running the midfield....and then baby bear said "somebody has eaten all my porridge".. :)


13.) 12 Jul 2021 21:31:37
Ed25 do you think he holds onto the ball a bit too long? A bit like Barkley?

{Ed025's Note - he does seem to dwell on the ball a bit long MR, i think he is unsure of his role to be honest, is he box to box?, is he a holding player? i dont know, but hes only young and maybe he will be an asset in the future, at the moment he will struggle to get near the squad...even though he will be captaining the national team in the world cup apparently.. :)


14.) 12 Jul 2021 21:51:38
The ‘attacking midfielder’ position Ed025, no?
Suits both players better I feel anyway.
Keita can’t seem to get away with the workload in a 3 and I don’t think it’s Jones’ thing either tbh.

{Ed025's Note - im not sure where either of them fit in juicer, both squad players for me at best, especially if you bring one or 2 in mate..


15.) 12 Jul 2021 22:10:20
There’s literally no tune to play out of Keita. He’s a waste of a shirt, needs to be binned off at the soonest opportunity. He’s about as effective as Joe Allen, and he had all the presence of a carrier bag blowing in the wind.


16.) 12 Jul 2021 23:11:28
I would like to see Curtis cover Mane's spot in the cup games, I think that is his best position.


17.) 12 Jul 2021 22:16:41
Ed025, kindly note. If it's not we, on the Liverpool supporters banter page, who will big up the Liverpool players, who are you expecting to do it? We know it won't be you. But it's so cool that the LFC players make you eat humble pie fairly regularly and often. 😋.

{Ed025's Note - part of my duties ArAy is to keep your feet on the ground, yes i have made the odd mistake and thats fair, but 98% of the time i am right and this has been proven beyond doubt over the years, i happen to like your club and most of its supporters mate , in fact a lot of my friends are reds...well acquaintances really.. :)


18.) 12 Jul 2021 22:22:23
Sorry Ed025 but have to respectfully disagree. Great potential, really tidy player and I think he has a big future in the game, hopefully with us. Less than a 5% chance he plays championship in the next 10 years, definitely think he has plenty for the premier league level.

Fabinho, Hendo, Thiago, Bissouma (or other new) . then Curtis Jones is our next best and for 3 midfield spots he should get plenty matches/ minutes.

{Ed025's Note - i love to see youth coming through sean and especially local lads, but i just dont see it with curtis mate...i could be proved wrong of course but as we all know that doesn,t happen very often.. :)


19.) 12 Jul 2021 22:36:36
He has to be on the plane Ed. who else would look after Elliott! the futures Red.

{Ed025's Note - the only way they will be on the plane jadon....is if they are taking an inch off the front door mate.. :)


20.) 12 Jul 2021 23:04:35
Oli, I'm holbrook, but my playing days are well done mate.


21.) 12 Jul 2021 22:07:39
I have agree with ed25 to a degree but the jury is out and I'm reserving judgement at this stage. I hope he does well but do have my doubts.


22.) 13 Jul 2021 10:32:25
I’m reserving my judgment too. Curtis does look too casual sometimes, and also doesn’t release the ball quickly enough. Whereas I think he can easily replace Keita and be a vast improvement, I don’t believe he can step in and replace Wijnaldum, we are going to need to buy.


23.) 13 Jul 2021 11:52:54
CJ last year got thrown into the team ahead of schedule and had to adapt to a position he hadn’t played at youth level. I think he did remarkably well and see him being a good addition to the squad going forward, whether he becomes a nailed on starter and top performer I don’t know but last season he showed his worth as a squad player at only 19 years of age in one of the best teams in the country. He really doesn’t have to improve that much to be a valuable asset to the club. At the very worst I would expect him to forge out a good career at another prem club.


24.) 13 Jul 2021 11:40:52
AHH ed 25 I remember you saying fabinho wasn't a good player not too long back. Do you actually watch Liverpool matches?

{Ed025's Note - i do you know pete, i have paid my dues on that one mate and it was based on his time at monaco where i thought he was very average, but i dont get many wrong...see bobby.. :)


25.) 13 Jul 2021 11:54:17
Ed025 I’m sure you said the same about Fabinho recently as well. You might not be wrong very often but it’s a different story when it comes to midfielders who play for Liverpool 😉.

{Ed025's Note - yeah that was a faux pas by me mikey, but i have been right about most of your players mate and will continue to critique until you stop telling me that all your players are world class .. :)


26.) 14 Jul 2021 12:49:37
More by trial and error than anything else.


27.) 14 Jul 2021 13:13:07
Not sure he’s anything to prove. Curtis would walk into most EPL squads. He’s young so a little raw. But what has he proven so far? Klopps trust. Started games or been an oncoming sub (we have many that appear on the bench but don’t touch grass) . Has scored goals and assisted at top level. Can run. Dribble through players at EPL level. Up against a midfield three, Fab, Gini and Hendo. But had had game time. How many his age within a EPL title winning/ holders/ chasing team up against the quality of those starting three can you name? Maybe Foden? A super talent. Another? He’s nowhere near Foden but in circumstances can’t think of another breakthrough from youth squad that plays within title winning teams. Support. Realise. Appreciate.


 

 

12 Jul 2021 07:15:18
What a beautiful morning, the best team by a long way won the euros, England will always be kick and rush and hoof it up the field, congratulations Italia.

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1.) 12 Jul 2021 07:32:33
What a bitter post.


2.) 12 Jul 2021 07:47:51
Soo many bitter fans on this site at the moment.


3.) 12 Jul 2021 07:55:23
Football won, what's the problem? I thought we were all football fans!


4.) 12 Jul 2021 08:04:52
I'll never understand people who take joy from others pain.


5.) 12 Jul 2021 08:45:56
Not sure if this will be posted but, bore off!

You hate England, blah blah blah, we get it. Enjoy wallowing in others disappointment but I actually feel sorry for you mate. No one should need to get enjoyment from someone else's failure.

That much resentment towards a bunch of lads playing for their country? If you don't like them that's absolutely fine, but how about just turning the other way rather than constant bleating about it?

{Ed014's Note - always happy to post the truth WY


6.) 12 Jul 2021 08:50:16
Really bitter to say congratulations to the Italian's, I think your the bitter ones, chin up peeps.

{Ed014's Note - you are just being a clown as usual, you’re an arse on the United page and now being one on here. Grow up!


7.) 12 Jul 2021 08:54:46
Italy were by far the best team in the tournament from start to finish. That is a fact that even England fans agree with. As for England, their luck ran out at the worst time. Nothing bitter about that. They have to learn the lessons and take the positives.


8.) 12 Jul 2021 09:13:13
I bet he is not even from Liverpool, just a wannabe 🤣.


9.) 12 Jul 2021 09:53:11
My dad and grandad took me to my first Liverpool match in 1963 and I have supported Liverpool for nearly 60 years but the thing is that without the game itself there wouldn’t have been any Liverpool FC to support and have so many happy and sad memories to look back on following ‘the boys’ around the country and Europe for the past 6 decades.

So, I watched Euro 2020 because I love the game and can generally find something interesting or enjoyable in almost any match.

I was supporting England because I was born in England - not because I hate people from other tribes.

To be honest, I thought that on balance Italy were the best team in the competition and they certainly played better (and were better managed) than us in the Final, so fair play to them.

Whilst, as far as I am concerned, everybody is entitled to express their opinion I also have to say that imho people who have no time for anybody or anything else apart the team they ‘support ‘ are somehow missing the point of what the sport is about.


10.) 12 Jul 2021 10:27:24
The huge irony here is he'll be cheering for Henderson next season. Yet, with these antagonising posts, he's currently bathing in Henderson's tears.

Not to mention Liverpool is an English city.


11.) 12 Jul 2021 10:27:35
Whereas I can’t bring myself to support England (too many reasons to list), do I feel disappointed for Henderson? Absolutely yes, I’d have been delighted for him to be part of a winning side. I won’t lie though, I did laugh a bit when Sancho missed his pen.


12.) 12 Jul 2021 10:30:18
Post of the day West Derby Wanderer. If I had a spare hamper it would be on the way 👍.


 

 

08 Jul 2021 02:09:44
I think it could be a cricket score to the italians on Sunday.

Mighty reds

1.) 08 Jul 2021 02:18:22
I think it could be a cricket score to the English on Sunday.


2.) 08 Jul 2021 02:24:41
Based on what evidence?

Considering England have only conceded 1 goal this entire tournament so far, I would be quite surprised if Italy hammered England.

I expect Italy to win, but I think 1-1 in normal time and Italy to nick it 2-1 in extra time sounds more plausible.


3.) 08 Jul 2021 02:35:26
I’m sure you hope so, you’ve been hating on England all tournament mate 😂. I am worried for England though, I think Kane has to have a better game and the midfield might be controlled by that Italian midfield, I wouldn’t usually want to fix what isn’t broken, but either Henderson starts or comes on early depending on how the game goes, since he would at least help us compete with their midfield in terms of quality. Rice and Phillips have been decent, just not enough to trouble the Italians I don’t think. England have exceeded expectations though so more salt to the haters.


4.) 08 Jul 2021 02:38:28
Why's that. 1 goal conceded in 6 games. Believe.


5.) 08 Jul 2021 03:53:12
I don’t think Italian’s play cricket.


6.) 08 Jul 2021 05:58:10
Marty the trash England fans booed the Danes national anthem, lasered Schmeichel in the eye on kanes pen, and dived to win, disgraceful.


7.) 08 Jul 2021 06:23:31
Mighty just give it up mate, we get it you hate England but the constant whining just isn't needed.

Do you call liverpool disgraceful when we win a soft pen or some idiots damage buses? Nope, don't let a few morons tarnish the rest of them.


8.) 08 Jul 2021 06:39:56
Exactly WYred. Some fans can't see further than the end of their own nose. Pretty pathetic really.


9.) 08 Jul 2021 07:12:39
Christian Vieri loved his cricket though. Nearly decided to peruse a career in it.


10.) 08 Jul 2021 07:19:42
Trying not to sound biased but I think Henderson needs to start. Against Dennark Rice was constantly holding and tripping their players and Italy have always been masters of taking advantage of such things. Also even tho they've only conceded 1 goal there have been incidents in every game where the defenders and goalie have seemed nervous so maybe a calmer head just in front is needed. Whoever wins its been a very enjoyable tournament and in my opinion the 2 best teams have got to the final.


11.) 08 Jul 2021 07:56:43
Why change a winning team? Like Klopp, Southgate has earned the right to be trusted making decisions that win matches. With five/ six subs bringing people like Hendo and Grealish gives us great finishers as they’d say in rugby.

Win or lose Sunday, now we have made final it’s been a great tournament.


12.) 08 Jul 2021 08:05:39
I think the balance of the midfield is awful the Denmark midfield controlled large parts of the game and the Italy midfield is a good few steps up. For me we have better midfielders on the bench.


13.) 08 Jul 2021 08:06:05
It will be a cagey 0-0 all the way to penos.


14.) 08 Jul 2021 08:17:31
With all the diving antics going on and with the way Kane and Sterling have been giving clinics in how to dive and fool the refs, England may just nick it.


15.) 08 Jul 2021 08:36:27
Grino England have a better first 11 on the bench but you can’t say anything because we are winning. Southgate will get plaudits for getting us to the final and will probably get knighted if we win but I’d be screaming at him if he was Liverpool’s manager.
He basically plays 8 defenders and hopes the front 3 might do something. Even when he makes subs he changes nothing. It’s always like for like in the hope that the sub can do something.
It’s boring, negative, safe football but it perfectly matches his personality.


16.) 08 Jul 2021 09:45:45
I think Mighty was ignored by Bobby Robson as a child and has never forgiven England 😉.


17.) 08 Jul 2021 10:16:07
I think the Utd banter page is missing him 🤣.


18.) 08 Jul 2021 10:51:35
Mighty there's bellend fans at every club and with every nation, enjoy that it's Coming Home.


 

 

 

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Love to know what pots Everton have collected to pee in recently?

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Bowen would be great signing ed2.

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Ed speaking about home grown players have we ever been interested in Harvey Barnes? I think him or Bowen would be great signings.

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He was every bit as good as Phillips towards the end of season.

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Cheers ed2.

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Agree Hailstones.

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Monkey is that not the excuse all the time.

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Hailstones how many times have Arsenal finished above us in last 5 years? There is far too much effort worrying about transfers rather than being a good coach and improving your players.

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Traore is not a crap player, do crap players make the Spain squad?

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31 Jul 2021 10:18:15
Benny I totally agree there is definitely a player in there, let's just hope it shines.

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