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31 May 2023 15:58:16
Hi Eds, I know zieler has been mentioned as an option at GK. Just wondering if any others could be on our radar with Kelleher likely to leave.
{Ed002's Note - Bart Verbruggen (G) Burnley will move for the player. Agent has offered the player to Spurs and others as his chances of ousting Van Crombrugge are slim and he wants first team football. Liverpoool, knowing that Caoimhin Kelleher will likely leave to get more game time, have sent scouts to watch him. Southampton were looking at the player last season but went on to sign Gavin Bazuno, and that has worked out reasonably well. Go Ahead Eagles failed with a bid last summer.
Ron-Robert Zieler (G) Free Agent and Home Grown in England makes him attractive to PL clubs looking for cover.
1.) 31 May 2023 17:35:58
Looks as tho Adrian staying for at least another season. Seems to be a big personality that Klopp wants to keep around.
04 Apr 2023 10:00:48
Question for the Ed’s.
Have Liverpool looked at Bruno Guimares?
I think he’d be a quality addition especially for the LCM position if we signed an out and out CDM.
I believe we had looked at him prior to his Newcastle move but I could be wrong.
{Ed002's Note - No. Two sides have enquired after his availability but have been told he is not for sale.}
1.) 04 Apr 2023 11:18:10
Thank you!
2.) 04 Apr 2023 19:44:22
Newcastle now has the richest owners in the premier, they no longer have to sell their best players, especially their best top, top egg.
3.) 05 Apr 2023 08:56:26
If he wanted to leave though they still have to be careful how they handle the situation. There are still many teams that are a more attractive proposition than Newcastle and if they hold on to players against their will then some players may think twice about joining them in the future.
I’m not saying he wants to leave, but it’s more complicated than just how much money Newcastle have.
Back in the day Man U didn’t need to sell Ronaldo, they didn’t want to sell him, but when Real Madrid wanted him they still did.
4.) 05 Apr 2023 12:03:21
He's such a good player - probably the best PL midfielder this season alongside Odegaard. A real miss by our recruitment team last January.
5.) 05 Apr 2023 18:12:53
I believe we missed out on Odedaard when he went to Madrid. He's turned out to be a quality player regardless of the numerous posters saying he wouldn't mount to much.
07 Dec 2022 17:10:29
I’ve seen strong links to amrabat today and I’ve spoken to my friend who’s a scout of another PL team about Amrabat and he’s spoken fairly highly of him and believes if he can adapt to the PL he could be a good signing for most PL clubs but questions whether he’s good enough to be a starter for the top teams.
I asked about Joao Gomes (who we’ve been linked with) too and said that he would be a better fit for the top sides as he has a high ceiling.
Obviously he’s not itk about Liverpool and who they are interested in but they were his thoughts on those two players.
1.) 07 Dec 2022 20:39:25
Thanks for sharing your information MR. Much appreciated. ??.
2.) 08 Dec 2022 07:27:39
Surely a Fab rotation player is going to join in Jan. It is essential unless Morton comes back .
04 Jul 2022 14:08:09
Hi Ed, I know you said the other day that the Neco Williams to Forest deal was off, is that still the case? If so what’s happened?
{Ed002's Note - Neco Williams (RB) Interest has been shown by Fulham and it is clear that he has not clear future path at Liverpool and wants to move on, but they see the Liverpool valuation as significant and have an idea to speak to an Italian side offering a player around right now as a much better option. As long as the price asked is reasonable then perhaps the summer will see him move on. Nottingham Forest made an offer but they are now a wild card option as they did not meet the asking price and have signed another option as they think Williams is being priced out of a move. Price again will be everything and if not over-priced he should get a move.}
1.) 04 Jul 2022 20:20:57
Ed002 I can’t see him getting a permanent move this summer now think he will get a late loan move now as you say think he has been priced out of a move for this summer. Hopefully he gets his move but I can’t see it hopefully if he ends up with a loan he has a good season and World Cup.
2.) 04 Jul 2022 23:38:47
I hadn't realised the transfer window must be nearly shut so @Grino? Bit overly dramatic just because someone isn't gone by the 4th July.
3.) 04 Jul 2022 23:31:00
Thank you for the reply Ed!
For the sake of the lad (who I think with game time could easily be a solid RB option in the premier league) we should lower the asking price by a few million.
{Ed002's Note - It should be realistic.}
4.) 05 Jul 2022 03:26:33
@Grino, I think it’s a bit early to write off permanent moves for players at this stage - there’s still over 8 weeks before the window closes and as you said the day before yesterday the situation can change very quickly.
5.) 05 Jul 2022 07:59:09
I think there where 3 clubs interested in him Forest Fulham and Southampton. Fulham and Forest look like they have signed other players. Southampton all ready have 2 right backs so am not sure if they would want to pay what we want.
6.) 06 Jul 2022 13:57:19
If Southampton already have 2 right backs why were / are they interested in him then? We don’t know what Liverpool’s plans are even though we support the club so I’m not sure how we are supposed to know what other clubs’ plans are.
01 Jun 2022 09:36:43
A lot of rumours circulating we’re going to make a move for Gavi from Barcelona. I know it’s been asked before but I don’t believe something that has been recently. For a 17 year old he looks a serious talent!
Just wondering if the Ed’s have heard anything on this?
To add to this, if he were to sign due to his age would he be considered home grown if he signed a 4/ 5 year contract or would he have to play in England for that duration?
Thank you.
{Ed002's Note - Gavi (CM) Barcelona will not sell and that has been shared with Manchester City, Chelsea and PSG who enquired. Liverpool and Bayern Munich have sent scouts to watch him. He will get a new contract with a Buy Out clause which will make him pretty much untouchable. Still a kiddie but resisting a new contract.
He cannot move to England before he turns 18 and needs to play under the English/Welsh FA for three years before he is considered HG.}
1.) 01 Jun 2022 10:18:24
Thank you Ed great response!
2.) 01 Jun 2022 11:34:16
Doesn't he turn 18 a couple of days before the start of the new season? What is his problem with a new deal at Barca? Does he want to leave? If he does want to leave (& as you've said multiple times in the past) wouldn't Barcelona be better off to not keep someone that doesn't want to stay? Just wondering.
{Ed002's Note - It is all to do with money. And he does turn 18 before the transfer window closes.}
3.) 01 Jun 2022 12:25:04
Thanks, Ed002. Do you think the current football model is sustainable? I'm very worried about where the financial strains will take us eventually. Anyway, thanks again.
{Ed002's Note - Many clubs are struggling following the pandemic, some have huge debt, there are too many professional sides in England, ...}
4.) 01 Jun 2022 17:57:32
I saw that Barcelona need to sell for over 150 million before they can buy Lewandowski, league economic rules, wondering if player exchange would be a way to circumvent that, Mane to Bayern, Lewandowski to Barca, Gavi to Liverpool, probably some cash kicked back to Barcelona because of Gavi's age.
{Ed002's Note - No.}
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16 Mar 2025 18:43:55
Not good enough today! We certainly look like a side that’s flagging a bit as the season starts to wind down. Credit to Newcastle today they’re got their tactics spot on and took advantage of the weaknesses in our squad.
Let’s hope the boys are up for the run in and we secure the title as soon as possible!
10 Feb 2025 09:28:42
Obviously very disappointing to go out of the FA cup but I don’t think Slot ‘disrespected’ the competition. The 11 that started on paper were more than good enough to secure the win but they didn’t and that’s down to a few things. Credit to Plymouth, they deserved the win so good luck to them.
One thing this game highlighted though is we need some good investment in summer. CB (Hato), LB (Kerkez), CM/ CDM (Baleba), Winger (Gordon/ Doak) and Striker (Isak, Joao Pedro) needed. Maybe even another CAM.
1.) 10 Feb 2025 10:08:27
Center back, left back and midfielder was a need for a good two years now. It’s strange you realized it yesterday. We are on a mission to make Quansah the second coming of Maldini.
2.) 10 Feb 2025 10:19:42
“The game was a huge disappointment and the way we played there’s not a lot to be happy about”
For someone to comment that clearly they can’t see the bigger picture and the Fa cup doesn’t matter.
Can someone please have a word with Slot and tell him to keep his emotions in check.
3.) 10 Feb 2025 10:40:37
Maybe underestimated rather than disrespected? He did seem genuinely gutted to lose that one.
I did wonder when watching this one if Slot had bothered to do any proper prep work on Plymouth or did he think he could just rock up and walk it? For pretty much every player to play as poor as they did I do wonder if they did any prep at all.
Team selection and bench were poor.
4.) 10 Feb 2025 10:56:19
Doak/ Gordon don’t improve the squad.
5.) 10 Feb 2025 11:01:11
This thought just occurred to me and I'm not sure if it is correct or valid but just throwing it out there. My guess is that the injury to Gomez threw a spanner into what Slot and the team set out to do. Endo was supposed to be playing in midfield, with Gomez at CB and McConnel at RB. But with Gomez's early injury, we were forced to shift things around with Endo moving to CB and McConnel moving to CM and Mayaba coming in to play RB. That weakened our midfield considerably and they weren't up to a physical fight thereafter, causing us to struggle all game. I think it would have been different if we had Endo playing in midfield all game.
6.) 10 Feb 2025 11:19:57
I'm with you, JK, Slot needs to have a word with himself and be told that us supporters don't give a flying fish about the oldest football competition in the world.
Because I have too much time on my hands, I checked out our 2017 FA Cup team which got knocked out against a Championship Wolves team, at home. I was there and it was on a par with the abject display yesterday. The point I make is, Klopp underestimated the importance of the competition and came in for criticism because of it. Like I've said in other posts, the starting 11 should've been good enough to beat a poor Championship side and most who played yesterday should hang their heads in shame this morning. Where I level criticism at Slot is not having enough back up on the bench, as an insurance. City could call on Foden, KDB, Akanji, Stones, Nunes and Silva from the bench, and they've got Madrid on Wednesday to contend with. Not everyone agrees with me, I accept that, but I hope Slot has learnt from yesterday's debacle.
7.) 10 Feb 2025 11:46:18
I have a conspiracy that Kostas Tsimikas is a secret agent hired by Robbo to make him look better. If Robbo puts in a 2/ 10 performance, you can be sure Koastas will pop up the following week with a 1/ 10.
8.) 10 Feb 2025 12:02:35
Man I thought it’ll be difficult to spot harry after Liam neeson started working less, but the signature style of spewing garbage every time his fingers hit the keyboard is just uncanny!
9.) 10 Feb 2025 12:21:59
I get the whole resting players for the league argument. However in the last 6 weeks or so we've been up 3-0 3-0 and 3-1 at half time against West ham, ipswich and spurs and Salah and Virgil played the whole game. We played a full strength team against Lille when we had already qualified for the knock out stages of the champions league with guess what Salah and Virgil playing the whole 90 minutes. If we want to manage the important players minutes surely we could be doing it in those games as well? And maybe a coach or probably plane trip to Plymouth for Grav, Salah and Virgil for a possible half hour rescue chameo wouldn't have been too much to ask.
10.) 10 Feb 2025 13:21:19
So to summarise, despite being top of the Premiership and Europe, and already in a cup final Slot doesn't really have a clue and needs to take directions from online fans.
Alternatively some fans could just grow a pair about losing, because it's part of football.
11.) 10 Feb 2025 13:29:27
At least with so many saying they are not arsed we don't have to deal with as much of the usual anger and scapegoating that follows a bad result and performance.
Some are either not arsed or outraged and want major changes at the club after a bad result.
It'll be interesting to see what happens after the Everton game.
12.) 10 Feb 2025 14:08:05
The most offended person on the site is telling others to grow a pair ??
Had to check it wasn’t April fools.
13.) 10 Feb 2025 14:08:52
FlashTheRed, I don't know if I'm one of the people you're having a pop at as an "online fan" but I'm not suggesting for one second that Slot doesn't have a clue, far from it I think he's doing a fantastic job. I'm merely giving a view point that he got it wrong yesterday with selecting a very inexperienced bench to call on.
For the record, I consider myself to be more than an online fan. I spent over £1000 last season and will do the same this season, following us, which I consider myself very lucky to be able to do so. Given my outlay, I don't think it's wrong of me to question decisions made by our first class coach, on the rare occasion I think he's got it wrong.
14.) 10 Feb 2025 15:58:03
What has growing a pair got to do with anything ? what a stupid statement!
15.) 10 Feb 2025 16:03:56
Rome a fan is a fan, regardless of how they show their support. Every fan matters, yet some believe themselves to be more elite than others. Unfortunately, their arrogance can create unnecessary division. There’s no need to justify your passion Rome, support your team in your own way and avoid engaging with those who seek to diminish others. They're full of sh*t mate.
16.) 10 Feb 2025 16:20:00
Red Will, you're spot on with your argument regards to our side against Lille. I was surprised how strong we went that night, when there was no real need. Also your observation about the Ipswich, Spurs and West Ham games, and not taking players off is also valid.
I'll shut up moaning now. We're currently the best side in Europe and, despite my whinging, I'm cherishing what we have. I just pray it continues.
17.) 10 Feb 2025 16:50:36
Can't you see the hypocrisy in your post, Salah?
I'm not seeking to create division but you need to look at the tone of some of your posts, mate.
Not all of them, of course ?.
18.) 10 Feb 2025 17:29:13
Rigsby, you’re always chasing a reaction, are you really that desperate? Your life must be fascinating if you’re spending your time on an internet forum just to fish for attention and crack jokes. Come on, mate live a little. Silly sausage.
19.) 10 Feb 2025 17:48:27
Salah, my life is anything but fascinating. It's very boring, at the moment.
That boring that I can help you out when you accuse others of elitism and arrogance whilst at the same time telling someone to avoid engaging with others because they are full of sh*t.
On an internet forum of all places.
How's life treating you with you not on being on an internet forum all the time, not looking for attention and not telling others who they should engage with thus not creating division, mate?
20.) 10 Feb 2025 18:08:09
Lol I won't explain myself to you no more Rigsby because you just never understand, the lift doesn't go to the top floor often it seems. Boring.
But yes, I am very good thanks Rigsby!
21.) 10 Feb 2025 18:08:46
T-2 until Goodison.
5 league games in 17 days.
Slot got it right.
22.) 10 Feb 2025 18:34:29
Salah, I don't think you're accusing me of being elitist, just because I happen to go to games. I'm a working class bloke from the Black Country and the word elite is one word I'd never label myself as.
However, I know about 20 blokes, who I travel with, who've been to every game this season, home and away, who use their own annual leave and spend thousands of pounds following us. I consider them to be a more avid supporter than me, because I have other past times in my life that I choose to do.
23.) 10 Feb 2025 19:40:07
Thanks Rome! Appreciate your reply to my post and not just because you agreed with some of my points. It's nice to get some acknowledgement on a post and a thoughtful and respectful response whether it be in agreement or disagreement.
24.) 10 Feb 2025 19:55:45
You're welcome, Red Will, mate. Hopefully see you on the chat on Wednesday. Make sure the dog's wearing red. We need all the luck we can muster!
25.) 10 Feb 2025 20:01:30
It did not show any of that.
It showed that if you throw a load of academy players, with a few fringe players and a couple of first teamers together they can get beaten away to a championship side.
It was a poor performance but let’s not get carried away.
26.) 10 Feb 2025 20:32:21
I agree moreton the team was more than good enough to win Although I think Slot has learned that lower leagues will fight more than some in the prem teams. You can see there defence celebrating every block like they have won the cup. But the body language from Jota, Quansah, Elliott was terrible from the start. And that’s the most disappointing thing for me.
27.) 10 Feb 2025 20:33:54
All this game highlighted is that if you throw a team together with kids from the academy, fringe players and a couple of first team players with no experience on the bench you can get beaten away by a highly motivated championship side.
It's nothing new it's happened before and it will happen again.
Suddenly people want to use this game (a team that has never played together, had an injury to a CB after 10 minutes and had to take the only experienced midfielder out of the midfield and give a debut to a right back out of his natural position) as a barometer to gauge how good or bad players are? Really?
Have you guys never watched football before?
On another day we get a lucky bounce of the ball, score the first goal and win the game and everyone says it wasn't pretty but we got the job done and lauds Slot for getting through without risking any first team players for the run in.
As it was, they got the lucky break and managed to hold on for the win. Fair play to them they put a lot into the game and they deserved their luck.
That does not mean however that every player that had anything to do with the game needs to be 'upgraded' (a stupid word for an actual human being if you ask me but there's way too many computer managers these days who think it's a real thing) .
We all know that the League is most important, including the manager and the players so although it's disappointing to lose a football match it really isn't that bad that we need wholesale changes.
28.) 11 Feb 2025 00:48:35
Keep on hearing we should have been good enough.
I think any team in the championship, with those hardened adults would see a midfield comprising of two academy kids who have played 685 minutes of first team football over the last two seasons, and would be absolutely be licking their lips. especially in their own ground.
All we relied on was individuals to pull off enough magical moments and unsurprisingly it fell short.
29.) 11 Feb 2025 08:53:42
We lost because we didn’t play well. There was nothing wrong with the team selection. There was enough in the team to win fairly comfortably if they’d played to their potential. They didn’t and we, deservedly, lost. Every team in the history of football loses at one time or another. As I say we didn’t lose because of team selection, we lost because the selected team didn’t perform on the night. Let’s move on and give Everton a good old fashioned pasting.
08 May 2025 18:54:49
Just for the fun:
Out:
Kelleher
Gomez
Tsimikas
Elliot
Chiesa
Jota
Darwin
In:
Valencia GK
Frimpong
Huijsen/ Murillo
Kerkez/ Hato
Wharton
Xavi Simmons
Julian Alvarez
Sesko.
23 Jul 2023 10:54:47
With both Fabinho and Hendo leaving.
Who would you bring in Ed to replace them?
Tricky market by the looks of it.
{Ed002's Note - Lavia is a good choice; Thuram or Gravenburch may still be possible.}
05 Jun 2023 12:16:16
Anything less than 50 million is a fantastic deal given the season he’s just had! Think he’ll be a great signing for us.
04 Apr 2023 11:18:10
Thank you!
07 Jan 2023 06:43:53
If he’s out of contract in summer then he’d be an ideal replacement for Matip. Him and Konate rotating to partner Virgil with Gomez and 4th choice and cover at RB.
20 Jun 2025 09:07:15
Perhaps and time will tell whether the ‘new’ crop of players will be cohesive but I’m liking that slot and the team are being ruthless. It was only negative about Klopp.
Plus slot did this after his first year at feyernord and won the league the following year! Fingers crossed it’s a good omen.
05 Jan 2025 20:53:49
Rome - my post was in response to the initial poster.
I agree he needs to up his game defensively. But today he just wasn’t at the races. He should have performed far better today especially against United. But as I said I think slot should have gone with Bradley simply because of the noise surrounding Madrid.
05 Jan 2025 20:19:33
We shouldn’t be hounding Trent out of the door. He had a shocker, he’ll know it 100%. I personally think slot should have benched him from the start simply because of the outside noise. His head wasn’t there today.
However Trent wasn’t the only one to underperform.
VVD and Mac are the only 2 that can say they played well.