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01 Feb 2021 10:31:00
Kabak or Caleta-Carr will be the second CB signing.
Ben Davies only a short term solution until summer where he’ll likely be moved on for a nice profit.
Kabak would be a loan with the option to buy, could work out nicely if we complete the deal.
Caleta-Carr looks a decent player, could also be a good signing.

As long as 2 of them are signed we’re giving ourselves the best possible chance to challenge for the title. Davies and Kabak would be my picks, little risk associated with them.
Still think we’ll sign Konate or somebody with equal quality in summer. But we’re desperate for a couple of CB’s so any of the 3 mentioned are good enough for now.

Moreton_Red

{Ed002's Note - Ibrahima Konate (CB) could we emerge as an option for first choice over someone like Ben White for Liverpool in the summer - Liverpool have been talking with his agent but whether or not Konate has been discussed in detail is not known. The downside of all of this is the HG quota issue which needs to be addressed. RBL will want to hang on to him as they will lose Upamecano in the summer. Money would possibly be an issue and any further illegal approaches to RBL players would no doubt result in a complaint now. Expect interest in Konate from Spurs as well.}


1.) 01 Feb 2021 10:45:08
Fella hasn’t even kicked a ball but u think he will be moved on in the summer? Matip will be gone Philips and Williams loaned out!
Leaves us with vvd if he gets back to where he was and Gomez is flakey and picks a few injuries up!
Let’s see how Davies gets in just because their isn’t a few zeros behind the 2 means nottin!


2.) 01 Feb 2021 10:49:29
Caleta-Car looks potentially world class, and a lot safer bet than Kabak. I hope last nights riots in Marseilles don't scupper this move.


3.) 01 Feb 2021 10:49:29
What I’m thinking though Ed is that if Davies and Kabak arrive today then will there be room for someone like Konate in the summer when we will also have Virgil and Gomez fit. We might as well not get Kabak now. Argh I don’t no all very confusing.


4.) 01 Feb 2021 10:58:17
Is the player who we are discussing with his agent caleta car? (sorry for spelling ed02)love you keep up the good work mate.

{Ed002's Note - As I have explained, his agent offered Caleta-Car to Liverpool without the permission of Marseille.}


5.) 01 Feb 2021 11:19:26
I think Ben Davies will be a solid signing for what we need but my interpretation of the deal is that he’ll play most of the remaining games this season (if he does very well then he’ll stay) and his stick will rise and we’ll sell him for a nice profit.
I’m not saying he’s going to be a bad player for us because at Championship level he is very good. I just think it’s smart business by the club to make a tidy profit on him in summer.


6.) 01 Feb 2021 11:21:54
Eds, does it look like a loan with OPTION to buy or a commitment?

{Ed002's Note - Schalke want a sale or a loan with an obligation to buy. I would expect Liverpool will want an option rather than an obligation.}


7.) 01 Feb 2021 11:29:54
Kabak - we appear to be negotiating a loan with an option to buy (not an obligation) . On those terms, I think that would be a very good piece of business, leaving our powder relatively dry to get the CB that Klopp wants in the summer (rather than just one that's available) . Also gives our coaching staff the opportunity to see if the disgusting behaviour he has exhibited in the past is endemic or a really bad misjudgement. Every player deserves at least one chance. The fact he isn't HG could be a problem though.

I must admit that I have seen enough of Phillips in the last 1.5 games that I wouldn't be worried if he remained one of our two reserve CBs in the future. Looks pretty solid.

Also, Ben Davies, I wouldn't automatically assume he will be sold on. Let's give him a chance just as we gave Robbo a chance from a similar background.


8.) 01 Feb 2021 11:37:52
Seems we need 3 CB's being as Gomez and Matip are injury prone, whilst Lovren was not replaced. I see Davies as that 4th choice player, HG and likely to remain part of the furniture beyond the rest of the season, leaving 2 spaces for future world class players like Caleta-Car and Konate. IF Kabak is the only option, then he can be trained and moved on if he does not comply with the behavioural standards required at LFC.

{Ed002's Note - Caleta-Car is hardly "world class" - he is not even the best CB at Marseille.}


9.) 01 Feb 2021 11:32:23
Nat Phillips is out of contract in summer so I imagine he leaves no matter what as I doubt we'll be able to move Matip on with his injuries and Gomez/ VVD. Kabak is supposedly a loan with option to buy. Davies is left sided, left footer who played left-back in his early career.

Tbh I'd be happy with Kabak on loan and I'm probably in the minority here - I'd like Ben White most. Extremely comfortable on the ball, Bielsa played him as DM when Kalvin Phillips was out and Potter has played him at RB and LB when needed this season. He's only 6ft so not the tallest and has similar aerial stats to Gomez but paired next to VVD I don't see it as an issue if VVD is at the same level.

Ed001 is there a profile on Ben White?

{Ed001's Note - not yet but he is on the list to do.}


10.) 01 Feb 2021 12:19:04
Imred, I genuinely think we should offer Phillips a new contract. He’s worth a spot in our centre backs, he’s shown capable of playing at the top level, he’s a bright lad by all accounts and Ed002 says is ‘well thought of’ which is a seal of approval by any standards.


11.) 01 Feb 2021 12:56:58
Caleta-car may not be world class, but then nor was Robbo.


12.) 01 Feb 2021 13:43:04
We are hardly going to try for Konate in the summer plus one more, especially after getting Davies.

VvD, Gomes, Matip, Davies, Konate, +1 more . no chance, not even if Matip is sold. I haven't included Nat or Rhy either but we aren't going to go from 3 senior first team centre backs to 5 or 6.

{Ed002's Note - Players leave as well as arrive. You have not really grasped this have you?}


 

 

16 Jan 2021 19:27:12
Think realistically in summer. It’ll be a CB or 2 (Ben white and Upamecano) and a CM (Bissouma) . Apart from that don’t think we’ll sign anybody else. Maybe a striker if Origi and Shaq both leave. But wouldn’t be a massive signing. Somebody like Ollie Watkins maybe, he’s done very well so far this season.

Moreton_Red

{Ed025's Note - if you get them 3 in this summer moreton i will show my arse in john colliers window!, for them you would have to lose salah and maybe another big name mate...you do realise you haven,t got a carrot dont you?..


1.) 16 Jan 2021 19:52:51
We are going to get vvd and gomez back, and hopefully a fit matip and jota. That’s like a load of new signings after this season. Shaq has started working and tracking which is making him what we wanted (hopefully it continues) . So really I don’t think we need to do much other than Fred up a few spaces and bring in 1 HG starter and 1 HG squad player, both of which could be already with us.


2.) 16 Jan 2021 20:04:38
*free.


3.) 16 Jan 2021 20:05:54
I reckon salah will go in the summer if he can get one of the Spanish clubs to nibble.

So a replacement for him and a cb (preferably homegrown) plus a replacement for Keita (if we can find a buyer) and I don’t reckon we will see much more business unless there are further outgoings.

Don’t see the need to replace Origi to be honest he doesn’t even get a look in at the minute.


4.) 16 Jan 2021 20:32:50
Well ed25 if i remember right that was always the window to watch 😂.

{Ed025's Note - it certainly was ace.. :)


5.) 16 Jan 2021 21:21:32
I would have Ben White yeah. Not the others though. I don’t really see a need to bring anyone else in unless people leave. I think a few squad players will be off though.


6.) 16 Jan 2021 21:26:57
WYred, I can't believe there are posters on these pages that think there is the slightest chance Salah will be here next season. He will leave in the summer with the blessing of the club. Read the signs.


7.) 16 Jan 2021 21:33:48
I’ll have what ever your drinking pal.


8.) 16 Jan 2021 22:23:59
Ed2 has told us for a long time now that his agent has been trying to get him a move to Real Madrid. If he were to leave it would be Haaland all day long for me. Whether he is attainable is a completely different story though.


9.) 17 Jan 2021 02:10:22
I thought Real are targeting Mbappe, Haaland before Salah . would like to see how they can push those 3 signings through and Barcelona are broke, I still think Salah will be here next season even if the club want to sell him.


10.) 17 Jan 2021 05:53:43
Imo there is a bigger chance Mane leaves than Salah. Barcelona may be interested if Messi goes, Zidane really likes Mane as well. Mane's wage demands and probably the transfer fee would be lower in comparison to Salah as well.
If the elite clubs are eyeing Mane and Salah, Mane is the more likely they will go for.


11.) 17 Jan 2021 11:31:03
The club is starting to transition to the next great Liverpool team so over the next few transfer windows (once this C.V. recedes) we are going to see some of our stars leaving and new future stars coming in.
Without doubt Mane, Salah and two or three more will be leaving as the are reaching their 30's.


12.) 17 Jan 2021 12:42:41
I don’t see Salah going RM will sign Mbappe there seems to have been no contact with Barcelona for Salah so that only leaves maybe PSG or Juventus and at 29 I don’t think anybody will pay what we would want for him what would be £100+m in the times we are in.


 

 

26 Nov 2020 19:10:15
Any truth that we’ve submitted a bid for perr schuurs?
Only seen him play against us, and he looked to be a good CB only one game though so not sure how good he is and if he’d suit us.

Moreton_Red

{Ed002's Note - I don't know but will try and find out. Klopp has been looking at a starter to play with van Dijk. Liverpool would need to remove a non HG player next summer if they buy him so it would not be without issues.}


1.) 26 Nov 2020 23:11:08
Thank you for the reply ed.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}


2.) 27 Nov 2020 07:33:49
I’m sure we looked at him about 3 years ago when he was a youngster, like 17? Obviously he’s still a youngster now.

{Ed0666's Note - He had a trial with us at 17 mate you’re right.


3.) 28 Nov 2020 19:58:52
Surely we need a starter to play with Gomez now and not van dijk I’m not sure at his age he will ever get back to the level he was at after a year a half off and even if he does he might well pick up injuries often.


4.) 30 Nov 2020 16:41:01
Here are players bought from EPL or had EPL experience vs foreign players that didn't play in EPL before,

EPL experienced
Mane
Karius
Wijnaldum
Salah
Solanke
OX
Van Dijk
Robertson
Shaqiri
Elliott
Adrian
Jota

Non EPL
Grujic
Matip
Klavan
Fabinho
Keita
Van Den Berg
Allison
Minamino
Tsimikas
Thiago

I skipped academy players, Allison has been superb since day one, Fabinho took a while to acclimate, Matip when healthy serviceable, Thiago been injured but if you look at EPL players, we do a LOT better with those, I trust Ed's judgement on Diego Carlos, our brazilian contingent would help acclimation but if we can't get him, would rather have us go EPL experienced players. Hoping for Ben White, played under demanding manager in Bielsa, used to high energy play, pressing and playing high line, and he's a younger too.


5.) 03 Dec 2020 10:42:44
Bobby F.


 

 

15 Oct 2020 12:48:31
Harry Wilson. Where’s he ending up?
Forest
Cardiff
Swansea
Derby
Blackburn.

Ed’s any update?

Moreton_Red

{Ed002's Note - Either Swansea offer more or Cardiff might be the pick.}


1.) 15 Oct 2020 16:53:34
I'm surprised Bournemouth aren't in the mix. Weren't they interested in signing him permanently if they weren't relegated?

{Ed002's Note - They have taken Rodrigo Riquelme on loan.}


2.) 15 Oct 2020 17:24:14
I had to read that twice then. I thought Bournemouth had just sign Juan Riquelme 😱😂😂.


3.) 15 Oct 2020 17:27:39
To be fair, a 42 year old Juan Roman Riquelme would still be one of Bournemouth's better signings in recent years.


4.) 15 Oct 2020 17:24:51
Ah, that explains that then. Thanks Ed002.


5.) 15 Oct 2020 17:24:57
What about Ben Woodburn, Nathan Phillips, Liam Millar, Herbie Kane and Sepp Van Den Berg? Trouble is, all of the interested clubs are skint. Either that, or they are hoping for a reduced fee in a last minute deal. They won't get that with Michael Edwards on the case.

Hey Moreton-Red, is the Morton Arms on Pasture Rd still thriving as a den of iniquity like it did in the sixties?

{Ed002's Note - I would would expect all to leave on loan and even those with no future at LFC (like LM) just to get a loan. The club have tried to sell on many of the youngsters but have hit the over-priced or no cash issue - many clubs are finding the same.}


 

 

12 Sep 2020 19:24:29
Appalling performance defensively, absolutely shocking. Haven’t felt this nervous about having a 1 goal lead for a very long time.

On a plus note we looked decent going forward and Salah is looking very very sharp.

YNWA.

Moreton_Red

1.) 12 Sep 2020 19:32:23
Hopefully its just opening day rust but it was shocking to watch. Allison doesn't look himself since they've started back.


2.) 12 Sep 2020 19:40:03
It was like watching us pre Van Dyke. 3 points on the board but watching us this season will not be boring.


3.) 12 Sep 2020 19:46:35
Their third was telling: halfpoor throw, Mo switches off, Gini halfhearted effort, Fab is nowhere to be found, Van Dijk goes headless, Jones is zoned out and doesn't pick up the run. Lucky to have Mo, good to have the mentality we do.

Can only get bettet, but desperatly need to get better for the next game.


4.) 12 Sep 2020 19:47:24
Salah is back to his 2017 best, but so was our defence.


5.) 12 Sep 2020 20:34:33
Alisson couldn't have done anything about those goals. The defeding was horrendous.


6.) 12 Sep 2020 21:24:07
We wer rubbish let’s be honest! Ripped apart at the back one game in I know but f me it as dirt! Chelsea and Arsenal be a different animal hopefully we are too cus that was rubbish.


7.) 12 Sep 2020 21:51:51
looked like a pre season friendly!
sloppy passing, poor defending and trying passes that just were not on.

Early days and some real positives.

In fairness Leeds played their part and 3 points is 3 points!


8.) 12 Sep 2020 21:54:02
We were all over the place defensively for each of the 3 goals and those errors were punished but let's not go into panic mode. Over 90 mins we did not see Leeds cut us to pieces, they scored from every chance they had and aside from those 3 lapses we didn't allow Leeds to threaten our goal much. We caught them offside numerous times which I feel made many of us nervous and thinking that they were getting in behind regularly which they weren't.

It reminded me of the Norwich opening day last season where we won 4-1 but in fact that day Norwich actually threatened more than today. Leeds were clinical and punished our mistakes but to let the opposition only have 3 attempts on target over 90 mins isn't exactly a major issue. Considering Leeds had so much possession they could only get chances when we made errors that were out ofcharacter. VVD or Trent will not play as poor as that again and I expect they will learn from those lapses.

On a positive note I thought we could have scored 7 or 8 and we still looked dangerous despite midfield and full backs not even at their best. Let's not overreact and instead look forward to next fixture. 3 points in the bag, salah full of confidence, no injuries and we now can learn lessons and work on things that might benefit our defensive focus going forward.

YNWA.


9.) 12 Sep 2020 22:51:44
Simply well done Leeds Utd. Played liked a seasoned premier league team. They wanted a result, played us at our own game and out possessed us at home.

Lucky 3 points today, let's just hope it was an off day for us. Salah today was outstanding, movement, dribbling and of course the hat trick hero.


10.) 12 Sep 2020 23:10:56
As well as the defence Firmino has lost all confidence in front of goal. He had a shocker.


11.) 13 Sep 2020 00:48:14
Honestly, Leeds deserved something from the game for their efforts. They didn't sit back and defend and tried hard everytime we scored. But let's hope we learn well from this game to bring us to greater heights. 3 points in the bag, we go again!


12.) 13 Sep 2020 07:14:45
3pts but not very convincing at all. Good to see Mo back to his best.
Our back four were shocking and Wijnaldum seemed to just run round like a headless chicken all game!
I don’t understand why Jürgen didn’t replace him with Minamino who’s looked vastly improved, energetic, and one of our best players during pre season.
Bobby needs to be a lot more clinical and aggressive in front of goal. We need a lot more goals from him this season.
Hopefully we can put things right before the Chelsea game .


13.) 13 Sep 2020 09:34:51
The elephant in the room is how awful Keita was. Didn’t look up to it I’m afraid. If we’d have started with Fabinho, Henderson and Wijnaldum Leeds would not have scored three. As it was having to carry Keita our far too much work on Henderson and Wijnaldum.


14.) 13 Sep 2020 09:48:31
@6Times I think you're sort of right. This was a bad match to start with Keita and such a high line. This gave no cover to our defense and kept leaving them in two-on-one and three-on-one situations. IMHO it was a tactical error in our set-up. Keita's stats for the game were very poor but I'll put some of it down to first game jitters as well. Mo was (as everyone has said) the best player on the pitch but our frailties showed. let's hope JK manages to change those frailties to strengths as soon as possible.


15.) 13 Sep 2020 11:44:29
Going to be a long hard season this, the 12th man is missing and it shows. I expected Leeds to go all at it, their style of play is exactly that and they pressed, they will do OK this year and suprise a lot of people, I was hoping to see Brewster on loan there if he isn't going to be given a chance this year with the first team, would suit him and our style of play.


16.) 13 Sep 2020 14:10:55
Job Done, onto Chelski.


17.) 13 Sep 2020 15:26:53
So does Gini get a free ride again? More experienced than Keita in this league but apparently the "job" he does in midfield justifies his wages every week? Fab and Curtis came on and did far more in the time they had compared to Gini? Oh but he scores in big games my bad, guess this wasn't that big a game huh? Every games a big game when you're challenging like we are these days.


18.) 14 Sep 2020 00:16:23
It's obvious signings need to happen, Gomez for me is a back up CB, Matip is too injury prone to be relied on for a whole season, feels like an injury to Van Dijk (or Salah or mane) our season over, can't see City dropping points again like they did last season so a couple of draws like today very nearly was could be all it takes to lose out on the title. We need a starting CB and another forward. I don't understand how if FFP even exists anymore Chelsea can be dropping £250m on players and we only have £11m for a back up left back in the bank. Really concerning performances right back to before the lockdown when we lost to Watford .


19.) 14 Sep 2020 08:31:42
Salah was awesome, best I've seen him play for a while. Looked well up for it, stronger and less likely to be shoved off the ball easily; and his shooting and dribbling was on fire. Great game for a neutral but I guess we can now see why Klopp wants another central defender. VVD is becoming complacent and is making a lot of errors so needs cometition for places to keep him at the top of his game. If I was Matip, I'd be thinking what needs to happen for me to get a chance. Firmino should also feel slightly under pressure as he doesn't score enough and his link up play wasnt great. That wasnt a game for Keita as we know he leaves holes and doesn't track back. Play him in the games where we have the possession and need to break down teams not in high pressure games.


20.) 14 Sep 2020 09:24:46
Not well done Leeds, these were there for the taking, should have beat them at least 6-0. I'm pretty sure Jurgen will have them in today to work out the problems they made for themselves.


 

 

 

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17 Feb 2021 12:21:16
Very happy with the performance last night. The intensity we showed is what’s been lacking recently and it was unbelievable to see us pressing high up the pitch again and wanting to get the ball off the opponents.

We got lucky a couple of times but after our poor run of form we deserved the rub of the green.

Gives us a massive boost ahead of the derby let’s batter them.

YNWA.

Moreton_Red

1.) 17 Feb 2021 17:56:27
The intensity was there against City and Leicester too but we made mistakes and lost the games.
The only time we lack intensity is when the opposition line up across their goal line because it’s difficult to close down someone who doesn’t even want the ball anyway.
It made a refreshing change to see a team actually want a game of football against us. It was beautiful to see Salah and Mane running free like a couple of wild animals finally being released back to the wild.
Hopefully get Fabinho back for the bitters game and when they inevitable sit in we’ll have the players in midfield to enable us to recycle the ball quickly and keep them under pressure. That’s where the intensity is lost in those types of games.


2.) 17 Feb 2021 18:44:13
The intensity off the ball last night was miles ahead of the City and Leicester games. You could clearly see the lads loved the break from the Premier League.
Seems like the players wanted to fight more, even Klopp was in higher spirits. Just a breath of fresh air for them.
Chomping at the bit to work harder and run through walls.


 

 

17 Jan 2021 23:52:53
I said in summer that this season would be our last ‘top top’ season with this core group of players because they’ll get found out, the style we play takes a lot of them.
I was adamant that we need a goal scoring striker, a box to box CM and a CB as a bare minimum.
If C.V. wasn’t a thing this summer we’d see a clear out of some players (matip, gini, Milner, salah/ mane. Core players) .
I understand that without fans it’s completely different playing matches. But I don’t understand why we’re playing so poorly at the moment.

CB x2 needed (White, Upamecano)
CM needed (Bissouma)
Stilted needed (Haaland)

Those 4 players for me would be the next wave of quality coming into the squad. And for me it is definitely needed.

I still believe we can win the league but we’re going to have to improve big time.

Either way YNWA.

Moreton_Red

1.) 18 Jan 2021 01:39:49
Were not playing poorly at all. Every team we play is sitting back and hoping to hit us on the break because we're having to play 2 midfielder at center back. Things just aren't quite clicking in the box for the front 3 because they have no space and are reliant on taking half chances and instant control in a packed box. You want white and upamencano? So 4 top centre backs then? We won a lot of games just getting over the line last season and this season were not. We haven't turned into a bad team we've been unlucky. If gomez and virgil weren't out we'd be about 6 points clear at the top by now. This is an over reaction.

{Ed0666's Note - shoulda woulda coulda. We’re third because we can’t penetrate a low block or a packed defense. We need Jota back more than anyone.


2.) 18 Jan 2021 07:38:49
Just the 300mil spend then Moreton? You’re going to be very disappointed mate.


3.) 18 Jan 2021 09:06:20
I aren’t wrong though am I? Yes there are a lot of factors contributing to our poor form (which is evident, dominating possession doesn’t mean anything if you don’t create solid chances with it) but I think even with a fully fit squad we wouldn’t be performing to a really good level I think we’d still be flat.
I never said we will sign those players because it’s unlikely givens the C. V. situation (which I mentioned before) .
But they’re the players that should come in and give us fresh legs, fresh ideas.
Ultimately I trust Klopp and back him and the club. But we are seeing signs that some of our core players aren’t hitting the required level.


4.) 18 Jan 2021 10:28:20
Moreton_Red, did you post this when we were top of the league? Did you think like this when we pummeled Palace 7-0? Uf that is true then, I hail your consistency. If not, let it go, mate. You are only ranting about stuff you would have liked to happen (clearly you knew we had NO money to sign the players you mentioned but who cares about reality, yeah? ) BUT knew wouldn't happen in terms of signings so in the end, you are moaning about nothing, really.


5.) 18 Jan 2021 10:47:19
I said last season that this season would be our last season as a top team, a serious threat across all competitions. I said that due to our style of play being so intense that players will decline following this season.
It’s clear to see that things need freshening up, I think we will sign 3/ 4 players in summer.
I’m not moaning about anything just stating the fact that the squad needs freshening up to maintain our high standards.
A CB is a must (2 if Mario leaves which I think he will)
A goal scoring striker is a must.
A CM is a must (Can see keita leaving coupled with Gini leaving, add a younger, hungry player)

Financial restrictions might prevent this. But for me we definitely need them if we want to maintain the high standards we set.


6.) 18 Jan 2021 08:26:02
Ed0666 I wish we were third mate. After city’s game we’re fourth. And if Everton win their game in hand they go above us.

{Ed0666's Note - well aren’t you the angel of doom 😂


 

 

29 Dec 2020 14:03:23
I would look to get Garay on a short term deal (only if he’s recovered from his injury) and Ben White.
Both of these would see us through until the end of the season. If VVD and Gomez are expected to be out for near enough the rest of the season coupled with the fact that matip is injury prone. Then I would like to see us bring 2 CB’s in, just to be in the safe side.

Ben White for me is a must as he is HG and young. Garay only if the club feel it’s applicable and the deal (short term one) can be agreed.

Moreton_Red

1.) 30 Dec 2020 06:10:51
I don't think Ben White is the answer, simply not very good.


 

 

05 Oct 2020 15:19:36
Obviously last night was an abysmal performance. We were shocking defensively, the midfield wasn’t aggressive enough and the forwards should be taking chances. (Salah though did have a good game) . I hope this is just a one off performance and I think that it will be. But we need to make sure we go into games with the right mentality and treat every game like a cup final.
For me last night did highlight a few things, matip when fit needs to start, he’s simply better than Gomez at this moment in time (obviously he’s young and learning and he will get better and be a world class cb in the future) . Keita for me isn’t near the standard we need, he plays well for a game of two and then goes missing, he also doesn’t seem to fit our style in terms of the defensive work. And finally, Adrian while he has had some stellar performances for us (and I thank him and respect him for that) he simply isn’t good enough, he’s a likeable guy and a good guy to have at the club but his ability is a level too low for me.

I could point out Firmino because he could have scored a couple, but for me his confidence in front of goal is shot and once he grabs 1 I think we’ll see him bag more. Obviously his role isn’t to be an out and out striker but he does need to score a few more for me.

Anyway onto the Merseyside Derby, let’s put this game behind us and put a good quality performance in and get the three points.

YNWA.

Moreton_Red

1.) 05 Oct 2020 15:59:06
OP, as valid as your points are on individual player performances, the issue is much deeper than these, IMO. Regardless of whoever was playing yesterday, we simply did not do the very basic thing of actually competing with Villa and winning more of our individual one on one battles. I did not say that. Klopp did. He said so after the game and I quote, "It is very rare that I say this but in some of the challenges, it seemed like the Villa players wanted it more. That is something that does not happen that much but I do not like to see that".

You have to earn the right to play and compete regardless of who you are playing and we did not get to where we have gotten to by having attitude and work ethic issues. We were weak mentally and lacked focus, desire, determination and presence in one on one situations all over the field. Not saying we disrespected Villa BUT you get the point.

That is what we have to get back to. Hard work, graft, determination, mental focus and the mean streak that makes us a nightmare to play against for any team on the planet cos trust me, that Everton game is going to test the players' mental make-up and if we are not ready to match whatever Everton will be serving, we will lose again. We are great at footie, end of. We are still favs. to win the title regardless of this one result BUT we are going to have to regroup, refocus and get back to the values that got us here.


2.) 05 Oct 2020 16:36:36
For me, Salah was good and got his goals. Firmino, Jota and Robertson were average. The other 6 outfield players were lazy and weak. Mane, Thiago, Henderson, Ox, Matip and Alisson can't come back soon enough so we can drop a few of them and give them a kick up the rear end.

Adrian should never play for us again though. Gunn got dropped by Saints when they conceded 9 so it's not unheard of. Kelleher should play every game until Alisson is fit again because Adrian is simply not good enough. Every time he plays he makes a mistake. It's not always punished, but it's always there. It cost us the FA cup and Champions League last season. Nearly cost us the super cup when he gave away a penalty with a needless challenge on Abraham. He let in a pathetic goal against Dunk of Brighton messing around with his wall at a free kick. He let in a weak goal against Lincoln City flapping at a corner. Now he's let in 7 against Villa of which at least 2 were his fault and at least 4 he could have done better with.

Yesterday was simply not good enough overall and nobody needs to tell the players or Klopp that because by god, will they know how much they've let themselves down. Hopefully we see a different attitude against Everton in 2 weeks time.


3.) 05 Oct 2020 17:43:45
MKS, I see what you are saying and clearly, Adrian needs to take some part of the blame. As I have said before, the guy is simply not learning from his mistakes cos he is making the same mistake on multiple occasions and that can no longer be tolerated. I have no prob with players making mistakes BUT if you are making the same mistake multiple times as in, making no look passes to the opposition w/ o even checking where your team mates are, is bordering on insanity.

I also feel like Klopp needs to now build a system that better protects the back 4 hence, protects Adrian cos he is not built to play in the defensive system he plays. His head goes way too often when whenever he has to come off his line to sweep while at the same time, being terrible with his feet. Get him to boot the ball up field whenever he gets the ball if he cannot pass the ball 5 yards to the open LFC player. Adrian is who we have right now so we have to adapt.


4.) 05 Oct 2020 19:46:21
Go and get Jack Butland today.


 

 

03 Sep 2020 14:37:45
If money wasn’t an issue this summer what players would you want the club to sign?

For me:

Upamecano - CB - I think this kids going to be one of the best central defenders in the world in a few years.

Saul - CM - would be such a great signing, would love him at Liverpool but it won’t happen.

Leon Bailey - LM - for me we need a pacey winger like bailey, he’d add quality depth to our attack and would allow Taki to play more centrally (I think he’s better through the middle) .

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1.) 03 Sep 2020 14:51:56
Son
De bryne
Koulibaly.


2.) 03 Sep 2020 15:07:32
What a transfer window that'd be. I think I'd have gone for something similar too. Upamecano is well on his way to becoming a top, top CB, and since Klopp obviously wants a first team CB, I'd have gone for him instead of Diego Carlos who I wasn't too impressed with how Diego Carlos with from what I saw in the Europa League. Saul to replace Wijnaldum in midfield would be a fantastic upgrade. Werner as our new wide forward for Origi (if money was no issue, we'd probably have at the very least made a bid for him anyway) . And then a pacy and preferably creative winger to replace Shaqiri. As much as I like Shaq, he's just never fit. Can't really think of anyone off the top of my head, but he'd have to be fine with not being guaranteed a starting spot. Bailey looked good a couple of seasons ago and I'd have trusted Klopp to make a world beater of him. And a backup leftback like Tsimikas who we've actually signed.


3.) 03 Sep 2020 16:21:19
Neves
Son
Mbappe.


4.) 03 Sep 2020 16:38:07
Son alone, would be brilliant. I believe his is miles better than Werner.


5.) 03 Sep 2020 18:34:56
Phil Jones
Fabian Delph
and Adebayo Akinfenwa.


6.) 03 Sep 2020 20:15:09
Oh no, not Phil Jones. The memes alone are enuff to make us relegation fodder.


 

 

 

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19 Feb 2021 10:25:49
I like the look of Marco rose, has done well for Borussia M. So if he can does well at Borussia D. Then he’d be a serious candidate. Looks like he brings youth players through nicely and plays a good system and style of football.
Anyway, we have a few more years of klopp before we have to consider who replaces him!

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19 Feb 2021 08:24:00
I don’t mind the idea of Gerard being Liverpool manager just not our next manager. Probably the one after that. Late 2020’ early 30’s. Gives him more time to develop as a manager and gain experience. Would only be late 40’s by time he joined.
After klopp I would go for naglesman. He did well with Hoffenheim is doing well with RBL, plays a similar way to us at the money and has shown he’s flexible with tactics. With better quality players to work with (like we currently have) he’d be a great option to replace Klopp.

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{Ed001's Note - Nagelsmann is a Bayern fan and would walk from any job for them. I would not want to appoint him for us until after he had been and done that, so he wouldn't be looking to go the moment there is a sniff from them. Marco Rose or Marcelo Gallardo look better bets for the end of Klopp's current deal. Maybe Adi Hutter or even Graham Potter would be other possibilities.}


 

 

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15 Feb 2021 10:15:43
I hope klopp doesn’t resign but I wouldn’t be shocked if he did.
With his mother passing away, that alone makes it such a hard time for him (never mind the poor results and the media) . So maybe resigning and spending time away from football and the limelight will do him and his family the world of good and will give him proper time to grieve the loss of his mother.
He’s a work class manager a top top guy and I’ll back him if he stays and he’ll have my support if he chooses to resign.
Jurgen Klopp YNWA.

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01 Feb 2021 11:19:26
I think Ben Davies will be a solid signing for what we need but my interpretation of the deal is that he’ll play most of the remaining games this season (if he does very well then he’ll stay) and his stick will rise and we’ll sell him for a nice profit.
I’m not saying he’s going to be a bad player for us because at Championship level he is very good. I just think it’s smart business by the club to make a tidy profit on him in summer.

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27 Nov 2020 11:37:48
Keith- Ability wise he is good he’s not shown it consistently enough. Obviously on and off with injuries doesn’t help.
But I just don’t think he’s suited to Liverpool and the premier league.

Keita
Origi
Shaq
Adrian
Gini? Can see him going
Matip? Could see him going due to being to injury prone, sign a CB in jan and then another in summer maybe?

Can see a fairly big change in our said in summer. Maybe not loads of ‘flashy’ signings but a handful of smart signings.

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{Ed0666's Note - I wouldn’t argue with any of you’re exits to be fair. I agree I think the squad is gonna have a bit of a revamp come the summer.


 

 

 

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25 Feb 2021 23:44:19
Yeah I agree with that Alonso, I’d like to see him have a year on loan at Leeds. If it’s successful then he’d be more that ready to step up and take a starting sport/ get regular minutes rotating.

He’s doing very well this year, just don’t want the club to rush his development (to being a regular player) as he’s so talented and would benefit from a team like Leeds where their isn’t high expectations of finishing top 4.

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22 Feb 2021 10:19:47
I think Haaland is a wonderful player and is going to be one of the best players itw over the next 10 years.
However, if we were to go out and sign a quality striker, I’d look at Lautaro Martinez at inter Milan. He’s doing fantastic things currently and while he’s also be on the expensive side he’s be the one I’d go for over Haaland.
That being said if we sign a forward in summer I suspect it’ll be somebody to be a back up, Raphina, Patson Daka, somebody that can push the other players but won’t consistently play.

CB - 1 if of: Konate, DCC, Botman, White.
CM - 1/ 2 of: Bissouma, Zakaria, Sanches, Barella, De Paul
Forward - 1 of: Daka, Watkins, Raphina. (In a fifa world I’d have Martinez over any of them) .

Definitely need 3 solid signings to freshen things up.

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21 Feb 2021 19:18:01
Alisson, Kelleher
Trent, neco
VVD, Gomez, Davies, Konate, Phillips/ Kabak
Robbo, Taimikas
Fabinho, Hendo, Thiago, Jones, Bissouma, Milner, AOC
Mane, Salah, Firmino, Jota, Elliott, Mina, Raphina.

Adding the 3 mentioned would provide even more competition and provide even better depth. I could also see AOC moving on in which chase id sign Zakaria to free up hendo and Thiago to play more advanced and still give another option to fab in the holding role.

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21 Feb 2021 17:19:16
My dad is a Forest fan and was watching the Forest v Blackburn game yesterday.
And it was clear to see that Harvey Elliott is quality and by far the best player on the pitch. He’s been used as a right winger and as a centre forward this season. And his stats back up the hype around him.
Unbelievable talent we have on our hands.
Would happily see him fully integrated in the first team next season and getting fairly regular minutes.

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20 Feb 2021 19:29:24
Pdiddy. Shut up you idiot.
Injuries, no fans have played a massive part in our current form.
I agree even before the injuries we were poor. But I feel our results would have been better with a fully fit squad. Performances still would have been poor imo.
We need 2/ 3 changes in the summer, a CM, CB and a stilted for me.
But to say klopp out, that is utterly ridiculous.

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