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31 May 2023 15:58:16
Hi Eds, I know zieler has been mentioned as an option at GK. Just wondering if any others could be on our radar with Kelleher likely to leave.
{Ed002's Note - Bart Verbruggen (G) Burnley will move for the player. Agent has offered the player to Spurs and others as his chances of ousting Van Crombrugge are slim and he wants first team football. Liverpoool, knowing that Caoimhin Kelleher will likely leave to get more game time, have sent scouts to watch him. Southampton were looking at the player last season but went on to sign Gavin Bazuno, and that has worked out reasonably well. Go Ahead Eagles failed with a bid last summer.
Ron-Robert Zieler (G) Free Agent and Home Grown in England makes him attractive to PL clubs looking for cover.
1.) 31 May 2023 17:35:58
Looks as tho Adrian staying for at least another season. Seems to be a big personality that Klopp wants to keep around.
04 Apr 2023 10:00:48
Question for the Ed’s.
Have Liverpool looked at Bruno Guimares?
I think he’d be a quality addition especially for the LCM position if we signed an out and out CDM.
I believe we had looked at him prior to his Newcastle move but I could be wrong.
{Ed002's Note - No. Two sides have enquired after his availability but have been told he is not for sale.}
1.) 04 Apr 2023 11:18:10
Thank you!
2.) 04 Apr 2023 19:44:22
Newcastle now has the richest owners in the premier, they no longer have to sell their best players, especially their best top, top egg.
3.) 05 Apr 2023 08:56:26
If he wanted to leave though they still have to be careful how they handle the situation. There are still many teams that are a more attractive proposition than Newcastle and if they hold on to players against their will then some players may think twice about joining them in the future.
I’m not saying he wants to leave, but it’s more complicated than just how much money Newcastle have.
Back in the day Man U didn’t need to sell Ronaldo, they didn’t want to sell him, but when Real Madrid wanted him they still did.
4.) 05 Apr 2023 12:03:21
He's such a good player - probably the best PL midfielder this season alongside Odegaard. A real miss by our recruitment team last January.
5.) 05 Apr 2023 18:12:53
I believe we missed out on Odedaard when he went to Madrid. He's turned out to be a quality player regardless of the numerous posters saying he wouldn't mount to much.
07 Dec 2022 17:10:29
I’ve seen strong links to amrabat today and I’ve spoken to my friend who’s a scout of another PL team about Amrabat and he’s spoken fairly highly of him and believes if he can adapt to the PL he could be a good signing for most PL clubs but questions whether he’s good enough to be a starter for the top teams.
I asked about Joao Gomes (who we’ve been linked with) too and said that he would be a better fit for the top sides as he has a high ceiling.
Obviously he’s not itk about Liverpool and who they are interested in but they were his thoughts on those two players.
1.) 07 Dec 2022 20:39:25
Thanks for sharing your information MR. Much appreciated. ??.
2.) 08 Dec 2022 07:27:39
Surely a Fab rotation player is going to join in Jan. It is essential unless Morton comes back .
04 Jul 2022 14:08:09
Hi Ed, I know you said the other day that the Neco Williams to Forest deal was off, is that still the case? If so what’s happened?
{Ed002's Note - Neco Williams (RB) Interest has been shown by Fulham and it is clear that he has not clear future path at Liverpool and wants to move on, but they see the Liverpool valuation as significant and have an idea to speak to an Italian side offering a player around right now as a much better option. As long as the price asked is reasonable then perhaps the summer will see him move on. Nottingham Forest made an offer but they are now a wild card option as they did not meet the asking price and have signed another option as they think Williams is being priced out of a move. Price again will be everything and if not over-priced he should get a move.}
1.) 04 Jul 2022 20:20:57
Ed002 I can’t see him getting a permanent move this summer now think he will get a late loan move now as you say think he has been priced out of a move for this summer. Hopefully he gets his move but I can’t see it hopefully if he ends up with a loan he has a good season and World Cup.
2.) 04 Jul 2022 23:38:47
I hadn't realised the transfer window must be nearly shut so @Grino? Bit overly dramatic just because someone isn't gone by the 4th July.
3.) 04 Jul 2022 23:31:00
Thank you for the reply Ed!
For the sake of the lad (who I think with game time could easily be a solid RB option in the premier league) we should lower the asking price by a few million.
{Ed002's Note - It should be realistic.}
4.) 05 Jul 2022 03:26:33
@Grino, I think it’s a bit early to write off permanent moves for players at this stage - there’s still over 8 weeks before the window closes and as you said the day before yesterday the situation can change very quickly.
5.) 05 Jul 2022 07:59:09
I think there where 3 clubs interested in him Forest Fulham and Southampton. Fulham and Forest look like they have signed other players. Southampton all ready have 2 right backs so am not sure if they would want to pay what we want.
6.) 06 Jul 2022 13:57:19
If Southampton already have 2 right backs why were / are they interested in him then? We don’t know what Liverpool’s plans are even though we support the club so I’m not sure how we are supposed to know what other clubs’ plans are.
01 Jun 2022 09:36:43
A lot of rumours circulating we’re going to make a move for Gavi from Barcelona. I know it’s been asked before but I don’t believe something that has been recently. For a 17 year old he looks a serious talent!
Just wondering if the Ed’s have heard anything on this?
To add to this, if he were to sign due to his age would he be considered home grown if he signed a 4/ 5 year contract or would he have to play in England for that duration?
Thank you.
{Ed002's Note - Gavi (CM) Barcelona will not sell and that has been shared with Manchester City, Chelsea and PSG who enquired. Liverpool and Bayern Munich have sent scouts to watch him. He will get a new contract with a Buy Out clause which will make him pretty much untouchable. Still a kiddie but resisting a new contract.
He cannot move to England before he turns 18 and needs to play under the English/Welsh FA for three years before he is considered HG.}
1.) 01 Jun 2022 10:18:24
Thank you Ed great response!
2.) 01 Jun 2022 11:34:16
Doesn't he turn 18 a couple of days before the start of the new season? What is his problem with a new deal at Barca? Does he want to leave? If he does want to leave (& as you've said multiple times in the past) wouldn't Barcelona be better off to not keep someone that doesn't want to stay? Just wondering.
{Ed002's Note - It is all to do with money. And he does turn 18 before the transfer window closes.}
3.) 01 Jun 2022 12:25:04
Thanks, Ed002. Do you think the current football model is sustainable? I'm very worried about where the financial strains will take us eventually. Anyway, thanks again.
{Ed002's Note - Many clubs are struggling following the pandemic, some have huge debt, there are too many professional sides in England, ...}
4.) 01 Jun 2022 17:57:32
I saw that Barcelona need to sell for over 150 million before they can buy Lewandowski, league economic rules, wondering if player exchange would be a way to circumvent that, Mane to Bayern, Lewandowski to Barca, Gavi to Liverpool, probably some cash kicked back to Barcelona because of Gavi's age.
{Ed002's Note - No.}
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25 May 2023 07:47:11
Is it just me that’s a bit worried we won’t be signing the quality of players required to get us back to the top in summer?
A quality CM and CB is a must, plus at least another very good CM and a versatile player that can play in a couple of positions.
1.) 25 May 2023 08:17:22
I think we can sign quality players. Only worry is management make the wrong choices of players to go for.
I strongly hope we bring in a very mobile ball winning player into midfield and some top defenders. I hope we don't overkill it on AM types. Mac Allaister is enough in my eyes for that role if we can get him. At the moment our supposed top targets have a bit of a similarish profile.
2.) 25 May 2023 10:16:56
nah not worried one bit. We'll make moves and I believe in the coaches, the core group and the new players to get stuck in over summer and have a better season together.
3.) 25 May 2023 11:09:47
Yes i think we are getting linked with the wrong players for insane prices, Mount is no where near worth £80 mill plus a with massive wages, that's seems bs given the last year of his contract, same with Mac, there are many other players with lower prices who can do more and much better prices, we have lowered our wage bill massively so should have bigger and better targets in mind, shame we have the wrong backing.
4.) 25 May 2023 15:47:09
If the club are such cheapskates then why would buying Mount for £80 million bother anybody? It would never happen if that was the case.
I love the idea that John Henry himself has selected Mason Mount, he loves him so much that he will happily pay £80 million and 250k a week for a player he almost certainly has never heard of.
Anything but holding Klopp accountable for the decisions that are made, anything at all.
5.) 25 May 2023 16:39:08
Amazing how short memories are. Other than not signing a midfielder last summer, what makes you so worried? Does Klopp and the transfer committee have a history of bottling it or have they done rather well over the years and brought in talent that helped us compete and win? Miss out on CL one year (assuming MU does what it needs to) and suddenly we're looking at a long dark period of despair.
20 Mar 2023 11:14:44
I think it’s safe to say we would all love Bellingham to join! But if we can’t afford him or don’t want to pay such a significant price for him then that money can be spent elsewhere and can still massively improve the squad.
Realistically we need 3 CM’s, 2 of starting quality and 1 that’s a bit raw but has potential as well as a CB.
Mount, Barella and Kone would be my picks for midfield. Barella is wishful thinking and wouldn’t be against someone like rabiot or ceballos coming in on a free.
As for CB I think we just need to get a reliable player that has good pace and presence and has potential to reach a very good level. Brantwaite could be an option despite him being a blue nose.
1.) 20 Mar 2023 11:51:21
Ox and Keita = mount and nunes.
2.) 20 Mar 2023 12:01:22
Mason Mount wants huge wages. Barella is excellent but he has no desire to leave Italy and unless we offer stupid money (circa £90 mill) Inter won’t sell. I absolutely love Kone and he is a readymade player but Chelsea will push and blow us out!
3.) 20 Mar 2023 12:23:51
If we can’t sign Bellingham I would try and get Caicedo and and a deep lying midfielder, which would have been Thiago if it weren’t for his injury record. Then use Elliot or Carvalho in the 10 and use whatever we have left on a defender.
4.) 20 Mar 2023 12:39:13
At least ticket prices are going up next season. Every cloud and all that.
5.) 20 Mar 2023 13:28:10
By 1 pound a game, or a max of 17 on a season ticket, year shocking that after an 8 year price freeze.
6.) 20 Mar 2023 13:49:11
Port how much is it going to cost you extra out of
Interest?
30 Jan 2023 10:22:30
Would like to see Klopp drop Salah, as good a players as he his, he just hasn’t been on it this season. Despite him still being our leading scorer. The tactics just aren’t during him (and the team in general) .
Would like to see Klopp go with Nunez down the middle with gakpo and Elliott either side.
1.) 30 Jan 2023 12:58:27
Klopp won't even play gakpo and elliot in their true positions and try mo upfront. Madness for me, especially when he did it for mane when he struggled for a while.
02 Jan 2023 09:34:59
While we’re 15 points behind arsenal and 8 behind city I still think we have a chance of the title we caught up to city last season no reason we can’t do it again and I think arsenal will fall off towards the end of February so it will leave it wide open.
We just have to keep getting wins even if we rely on own goals.
We do need a midfielder though if we are serious about still being in the title race.
1.) 02 Jan 2023 09:42:44
Have you watched our games We'll do Well to beat Brentford if we play like we did in the last 2. If Darwin and Salah can start finding the net and spurs and Chelsea remain useless we can get top 4 but title chasing? I want what you had for breakfast please.
2.) 02 Jan 2023 09:48:19
As we currently stand if Jones is back I would prefer him line up on the left hand side of attack and the Ox returned back in to the midfield.
3.) 02 Jan 2023 10:27:28
City are still the side to beat. Reality is that at this moment we’re nowhere near challenging for the title. We’re so far behind we’re better off focussing on getting our self straight first.
4.) 02 Jan 2023 10:56:01
I want to believe we can still do it. But 15 points is a huge gap to close with no games in hand. The main team who could take points off them is City (twice) but we also need City to drop points.
Realistically i'd take 2nd or 3rd from here.
5.) 02 Jan 2023 10:57:02
VVVV we are 8 points behind City with more than half a season to go! I really don’t understand why anyone would give up on the title that easily given what this team and manager have achieved over the last 5 years!
It can only be self preservation, it’s so much easier to always be negative then you never have to be disappointed.
Quite sad really.
6.) 02 Jan 2023 11:06:33
Ox should be returning to the bench or physio room no? An absolute waste of money all I can think he has offered is being a great lad in the dressing room. Thank Robbie fowler we signed Gakpo and hopefully Jota and Bobby back soon.
7.) 02 Jan 2023 12:04:51
We are wanting Arsenal to capitulate, which is not impossible, not being in this position for a long time. Still a monumental effort to overhaul 8 points on City tho. Not impossible but probably best to concentrate on picking off games and not even thinking about the title. Agree with MK, 2nd or 3rd would be some effort considering how we started.
8.) 02 Jan 2023 13:30:06
How we went from the OP thinking we still have a chance at the title to now blasting Ox for being a waste of money (I think the name you are looking for is Keira, not Ox) is just amazing BUT I guess that is the type of era we are in where a topic cannot be discussed with insulting a player in the process. Pathetic.
Now on to the OP’s comment, I don’t think that is possible right now cos we are simply not that team anymore and you don’t need to have your coaching badges to figure that out. We are not playing consistently well during games let alone over a run of games. We give up too many chances and waste even more chances at the other end. And Arsenal don’t look like letting up.
That said, I believe City are the team to beat cos even at 7 points behind. They have still play Arsenal twice with a gale in hand on them. Also, Arsenal have no history of closing the season with 10 wins in row. City do so we’ll see what happens. Is? We have been poor to average all season and we are just 8 points behind City. That tells me how poor this City team is in comparison to the one we went against during the ‘17 - ‘20 seasons more than anything else, imo.
9.) 02 Jan 2023 13:37:27
There would have to be a gargantuan change in the way we play to even come close to city never mind Arsenal. The way I see us playing we are literally hanging on by a thread in most game and having to fight back from a silly conceded goal. We are starting and bringing on players that are simply not good enough like ox, Keita. I know there were people scratching there heads at signing Gakpo but if you ask them who they would want to play on the left for the rest of the season out of ox, Jones or Gakpo then it’s a no brainer!
I really do hope we can tweek the midfield if we can't bring in help. ??.
10.) 02 Jan 2023 16:24:48
Anyone thinking we’ve got any chance of the title can’t have watched us play this season. I can only think of a few genuinely good performances in the league and there’s been more bad than good, particularly the defeats to Leeds and Forest. Gakpo might help us score more, which we’ll desperately need as our midfield is shot to pieces and we give away cheap goals. Those aren’t the hallmarks of a title winning side.
Our best hope is getting through each game and hoping those in 3rd and 4th fall off. Unless by some miracle our midfield improves (which I’m not expecting with the current personnel available) and we remember how to defend (although being under constant pressure because of a broken midfield isn’t helping) then there’s no point talking about the title and it only sounds delusional to do so.
{Ed025's Note - you are certainly in with a shout VVVV, with the luck you have how can you be ruled out?, two own goals v leicester and now toney out for tonight who would bet against you?
11.) 02 Jan 2023 19:34:56
Shambolic all over the pitch today.
12.) 03 Jan 2023 08:08:01
Be happy with top 4 tbh, no chance of the league, we have won our 1 and the owners were happy with that.
25 Oct 2022 09:30:11
It’s clear the squad need’s investment. But I really don’t know who we can sign that fully improves us in the short term. Of course our depth can be improved in the short term but without splashing hundreds of millions on new signings (which won’t be sanctioned by FSG) I don’t see us massively improving the starting 11.
In an ideal world we’d sign a pacey winger that can play on either side. An attacking midfielder. A box to box midfielder. A holding midfielder.
Who realistically could we sign?
Laimer for the holding role as he’d have no transfer fee attached, though looks like he’ll join Bayern.
But the other positions I haven’t a clue who’s be cost effective.
1.) 25 Oct 2022 10:04:44
If you follow SM then the knives are already out on FSG. I don't see them surviving much if they don't start spending like some other Big boys.
2.) 25 Oct 2022 10:07:55
Behind all the negativity of how our season is going and the injuries we currently have the only option we can use currently ( I don’t think we’ll buy in Jan so for the season) is to look within the squad.
Questions have been raised about many of our players but the likes of Jones, Naby (if he ever returns), Elliot, Carvalho, Gomez, Ox and Even Nunez etc now have a great opportunity to step up and claim that starting place as their own.
Football is a ruthless world and sometimes it’s a case of sink or swim.
Some of who I named above might have struggled to get minutes this season without injuries but now they have an opportunity to prove the doubters wrong.
3.) 25 Oct 2022 10:08:21
I agree with you, Moreton.
That's why I have some sympathy with Klopp. I'm sure he'd like to add the 'right' players right now.
4.) 25 Oct 2022 11:14:10
Rigsby condolences on not getting the job.
Unless Rigsby is autocorrect for Rishi and you did get the job ?.
5.) 25 Oct 2022 14:09:12
I like what Napoli are doing at the moment. Strong workmanlike Midfield and exciting forwards.
Reminds me of a team I used to watch ?.
6.) 25 Oct 2022 15:54:44
This is the banter page, JK.
You need to up yours, mate ?.
7.) 25 Oct 2022 17:29:08
Laimer to Bayern is a done deal. If we wanted go make that happen we should have spoken to his agent long ago to sound him out, not with a few days of the transfer window.
Our midfield lacks legs and any sort of defensive nous if Fabinho is out of form, which regrettably he is. So we are easy to run through and we don’t pressure the opponents effectively if at all, and there are seemingly are no answers to this in the squad, certainly not Keita, Ox, Jones or Milner for varying reasons. There’s no point including Arthur as I can’t see him playing this season or making a tangible impact due to all of his fitness and injury issues, or the reality that he’s too slow and weak for English football, thankfully we won’t be paying that £35m transfer and he’ll go back to Juve.
For my money, Elliott and Carvalho are attackers (or at least attacking midfielders) and not centre midfielders, so I feel they’re being asked to do something out of there skill set, which is hard for a pair of teenagers, to my mind they’re exempt from criticism.
So essentially we’re relying upon Henderson, Fabinho and Thiago staying fit and finding form as the answer to our problems, which at this point looks a big ask.
8.) 25 Oct 2022 19:30:56
Thiago is essential to us having a good season but he needs to be managed and can only realistically play once a week. Probably the same is true for Hendo and Fab. I'm hoping our domestic cup runs are very short lived unless we stick to playing non first team players. We just don't have the depth to cope.
9.) 26 Oct 2022 07:37:31
The 'loosing ground on Bellingham' talk has started already, which would be typical FSG tackle.
It does look like time for an overhaul, considering how many players are nearing the end of their tenure and or are not fit/ consistent or good enough, so here's hoping that we identity some quality under the radar type signings and blend those with some of the best youth players. What we need is hunger and energy to reboot the squad.
Personally i think we need a quality, robust CB considering that it does appear as though 2/ 3 of our existing ones are all too frequently injured, and in Gomez case, inconsistent .
The MF, as pointed out above is flimsy, too old/ young and out of form and needs a huge injection of energy.
Knowing how FSG operates means we need to look at what we could raise through sales, what are peoples thoughts on this?
Naby and Ox are going to waltz off for free, although i imagine that those losses will be balanced with a couple of out of the blue free transfers.
If i were in charge, this would be both Gomez and Jones last season to prove their worth, being as they have not shown enough (consistently ) lately and could bring in 50m between them.
The Zaha rumours are interesting, and i for one would take him on a free as a rotation player. He is experienced and high level enough to fit in (imo) .
10.) 26 Oct 2022 10:28:53
Spaceman, Re Bellingham, do you not think the club would be aware of the demands set by his agent regarding possible future transfer?
As for Zaha, you really want a Manc reject? .
Gomez has not hit the perceived peak yet, I keep saying there’s big lessons for the squad to learn, mindset, experience and so on, also the Management team will learn about the mental capabilities of the players and who is up for the fight etc.
11.) 27 Oct 2022 10:46:09
Gomez on a new 5 year deal so clearly he has a future w us. But can see him and Jones sold off in the summer. Zaha would be a good option manc reject or not. He'd have to stop diving tho.
23 Jul 2023 10:54:47
With both Fabinho and Hendo leaving.
Who would you bring in Ed to replace them?
Tricky market by the looks of it.
{Ed002's Note - Lavia is a good choice; Thuram or Gravenburch may still be possible.}
05 Jun 2023 12:16:16
Anything less than 50 million is a fantastic deal given the season he’s just had! Think he’ll be a great signing for us.
04 Apr 2023 11:18:10
Thank you!
07 Jan 2023 06:43:53
If he’s out of contract in summer then he’d be an ideal replacement for Matip. Him and Konate rotating to partner Virgil with Gomez and 4th choice and cover at RB.
30 Dec 2022 08:34:01
Enzo is obviously a very talented player however the release clause is crazy for a player that’s played in Europe for less than a season.
Equally the price being quoted for caicedo is way too much for his experience at this level.
22 Jul 2023 20:13:08
No legs have gone.
01 May 2023 19:56:42
2 top midfielders and a top CB then replace any outgoing eg Kelleher, Tsimikas etc.
Ugarte/ Caideo and Mount/ Barella for midfield
Gvaridol is my CB choice but the 2 youngsters (forgotten their names) at Benfica and Sporting could be better alternatives.
04 Apr 2023 09:33:26
Would agree with Ed on this, not sure I like what I hear in the media from him. But he is a very good coach who will go on to bigger and better things than Brighton.
04 Apr 2023 09:31:43
Watching him for England u21’s he looked really good. Obviously that’s not the same level as the premier league but he showed serious promise.
It might be a case of him needing a decent run in the team to see him at his best it’s just a case of Klopp doing that which doesn’t look likely.
As much as I think there’s a player there I think we’d be better off selling him, get a decent fee and he’d move on likely to a Villa, Wolves sort of team where he’d get a lot more game time.
30 Jan 2023 11:06:23
I would still go out and get another DM, probably someone like thuram. Him + bajectic with Hendo as an alternative gives us good options at the base of our midfield.
Then add two box to box midfielders and we’re good to go. Kone and Bellingham plus thuram and our midfield is in good shape again.