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28 Dec 2018 22:34:32
Is it just me or has anyone noticed that Ed002 saying Salah's agent has been hawking him to RM has very few people on this site worried compared to last season?
Its a testament to how far we have come in the last 2 seasons that we have the resources, pull and faith in our manager to replace Salah if he were to leave (not saying he will go) . We could easily squeeze 150-180 million pounds of RM and replace him with someone like Pulisic and a high end forward without having to spend a penny apart from the Salah money.
Still think RM will go for Neymar or Mbappe though. If they are throwing everything they have on a high end forward and then tighten the purse strings afterwards, it will be Mbappe and Hazard (if they can shift Isco) imo.

Indian Buzzer

1.) 29 Dec 2018 03:35:34
Really hate these agents. Hawking around so that they can engineer a move for them to milk money out of it. But hey, that's their job anyway.

If he moves, so be it. I'll be disappointed definitely. But he cannot be the only player in the world that can help the club moving forward. There are lots more out there. Some maybe not yet unearthed or heard of. Some already in the club.


2.) 29 Dec 2018 08:42:42
We heard the same thing all last year. and we can’t stop it anyway no ones bigger than the club 🤷🏼‍♂️.


3.) 29 Dec 2018 09:27:23
so has ed002 said his agent has been trying to get a move again this season, as I have not seen anything tried a search but could not see anything?

{Ed025's Note - yes he has..


4.) 29 Dec 2018 09:54:27
is this for a summer move I do think Madrid will go for hazard if he does not sign a new contract as this will work out a lot cheaper with his contract so short 1 year left In the summer I think. and they look like they need to do a good bit of business.


5.) 29 Dec 2018 11:12:40
RM will go for Hazard in the summer as he will be cheap with only a year remaining on his contract. Their high profile forward signing will be either Mbappe or Neymar. Salah will just have to slug it out at LFC for the foreseeable future unless he downs tools like Coutinho and Klopp gets fed up of him.


6.) 29 Dec 2018 13:49:56
The time for Real to buy Hazard was last summer, changing situations has meant they've moved on to Neymar and Mbappe.


7.) 29 Dec 2018 16:01:21
Well we should be worried. He would be a hard act to follow but if we continue to play to the level we are and win a trophy or two then it hopefully will be easier to attract top players.


8.) 29 Dec 2018 23:05:22
I know I might sound like an idiot BUT with Salah being such a grounded young lad, is it likely he is looking for a move or is it his agent looking for a big paypacket?

{Ed002's Note - This has been done to deathg in the past - don't open it up again.}


9.) 30 Dec 2018 04:11:18
If he leaves then fine but Atleast he goes with a premier league trophy and some wonderful memories. Hopefully he will see sense and continue this wonderful journey Liverpool is on. Let’s all stop fretting about who will stay or go and just enjoy the ride. Happy new year in advance to all the Ed’s and all fellow reds.


 

 

19 Jul 2018 11:40:23
Danny Ward off to Leicester possibly for 12 million pounds?
Didn't see that one coming. Good fee for someone who barely played for us, but an exciting adventure for Wardy who will be 1st choice if Schmeichel goes to Chelsea.
Probably means Karius stays as backup to Alisson.

Indian Buzzer

1.) 19 Jul 2018 11:45:28
Good for him! I have felt sorry for him in recent years. All the best if this is true.


2.) 19 Jul 2018 11:48:57
schmiecal to chelski?


3.) 19 Jul 2018 12:00:00
12m!

behave.


4.) 19 Jul 2018 12:09:15
We're losing our number one goalkeeper to Leicester.

From being 3rd choice to being No.1 and now a possible transfer in a matter of few days. Things change fast in football.


5.) 19 Jul 2018 12:20:45
Sounds like Roma and Chelsea will be fighting it out for Kasper Schmeichel now.

A shame about Ward. Klopp really has messed him about and stifled his development. He should have been sent back on loan last year, after helping Hudderfield to the Premier league, but Klopp decided he needed to have 3 goalkeepers, because clearly two wasn't enough.

Not like Ward played very much, a very bad decision from Klopp in my opinion and another broken promise. He really does have a habit of this, which is a little worrying, because you can gain a reputation by acting like this.

I only hope the lad goes on to have a decent campaign in a new setting. I think Ward will turn out to be a decent buy by Leicester, and, fingers crossed, Liverpool's goalkeeping nightmare will be ended by the arrival of Alisson. Great keeper, little concerned by his habit of parrying the ball back into dangerous areas but that will hopefully be eliminated by some regular coaching.

Still, with or without a CAM coming in, what a team we have this season. Hopefully we can go and win a trophy because it has been so long since I have seen our side celebrate a cup final. This might be the season we do though, I will keep my fingers crossed.


6.) 19 Jul 2018 12:27:47
Just read that and was about to ask Ed if it's true. Would be a very good move for him.

So Tim Krul or Boaz Myhill for 3rd keeper?
Or bring back Cavalieri? :)

{Ed001's Note - I have been hinting about it for a couple of days.}


7.) 19 Jul 2018 12:37:35
Good luck to the lad. He deserves to be playing especially after Klopp has messed him around so much!


8.) 19 Jul 2018 12:55:30
Effectively Klopp added a couple of million to Danny Ward's value by "making him Liverpool's number 1" for a few days.

That's business.


9.) 19 Jul 2018 13:46:46
LFC-S+MANGO Roma apparently had an agreement with PSG for Alphonse Areola in place incase Alisson deal went through so looks like if Schmeichel is to move it would be to go to Chelski rather than replace Alisson.


10.) 19 Jul 2018 13:52:26
If we can get 15 million odd for migs that's 27 off alisson's fee already.

That leaves karius and garabara as back up.

Thats good business indeed.

Good luck to ward. I hope kasper leaves and he gets his chance to show what he can do in the prem.


11.) 19 Jul 2018 14:19:59
So did Klopp actually come out publicly announcing Ward as number one? Missed that interview. Any links, be an interesting watch.

Otherwise is everyone getting this Ward no.1 info from the same set of journos, twitter etc that I see always slammed down as utter bollox? Then becoming a super keyboard warrior ready and waiting to type ‘embarrassing’ as much as possible.


12.) 19 Jul 2018 14:39:17
Man, how bad is going from Courtois (spelling) to Schmeichel? Chelski getting ripped apart!

Hope Becker lives up to his price. I really wanted to see Ward in action at the big stage. Hope he gets his chance in the EPL!


13.) 19 Jul 2018 14:57:00
I know mcfurgen, I’d like to see this interview too. For all we know Klopp said Ward will be given the chance to fight for number 1 shirt. Which is fine. If Ward never wanted to play for Liverpool why did he sign a contract with us? Posters are always complaining that our young players don’t get their chances. Maybe Klopp brought him off loan and gave him a chance and he wasn’t good enough?


14.) 19 Jul 2018 15:20:05
Really disappointed that Ward is going. We should have kept him and given him a chance.
It should be Migs who we should sell on.
Ward is much younger and can still learn.
Migs has had plenty of chances under 2 managers and has rarely been up to the very top end of the Premier League.

For me this is a real bad move by the club and Klopp.

Migs should have been sold or even used as part exchange for AB. The Italian league would suit him much better and away from premier league spotlight.

Now let's see if we can change the goal keeping coaches!


15.) 19 Jul 2018 15:37:13
Explains why he wasn't in the squad against Bury.


16.) 19 Jul 2018 15:49:09
But what do you do if nobody wants to by mignolet?


17.) 19 Jul 2018 15:48:40
I don't understand what all the hue and cry about Klopp telling Ward he has the chance of being his Number 1, is all about (regardless of whether it is documented as true or not) . As manager, what is he supposed to do? Tell him that "listen you're stuck in the No. 2 or 3 position here for life"?

I've never managed a sports team in my life but I run businesses (with a whole bunch of employees) since 36 years. And the number 1 lesson I've learnt about getting performance out of, and retaining, employees, is to keep motivating them and keep showing them the next step up that is there for them to take. Aspiration to move up in life motivates everybody! And I'm sure it's like that in all team sports where squads of players are involved.

So what if Klopp told Ward "you have the chance to be my Number 1"? I don't see it is a lie. It's logical and motivational man-management. And Klopp seems to be a level headed and fair guy, when handing out starting jobs. Otherwise TAA and Robertson would not be where they are. Clyne got injured, TAA (and Gomez) took over and they were deemed good enough to keep their places, Clyne wasn't. Moreno started the season last year, until Robertson took over and showed he deserved to keep his place. And after Mignolet got demoted, if Karius had underperformed or gotten injured, Ward too would have gotten his shot, I'm sure of it. No need to demonize Klopp as some kind of promise-breaking ogre. (I agree that Ward should not have been in the team last year, because he is way better than a No.3, and should have been loaned out, but that's a different matter alltogether) .

{Ed002's Note - It is to do with him repeatedly saying things like this - he has done it over and over. He should simply shut up about it.}


18.) 19 Jul 2018 15:49:09
But what do you do if nobody wants to by mignolet?


19.) 19 Jul 2018 16:22:44
Surely the Belgian reserve keeper will be in demand, if the price is right. Those suggesting either Ward or Karius for our backup have not considered what a 25 year old player needs in their career.


20.) 19 Jul 2018 16:41:31
ArAy1969, I agree with every single word you have written. Excellent post.


21.) 19 Jul 2018 16:28:43
Yes Ed002, I've read before where you have stated that he should stop saying it. But do you mean not saying it out in the press or the public domain, or do you mean that he should stop saying it to players because he is lying and has no intention of ever trying to deliver what he is suggesting? Wanted your clarification, if you don't mind.

{Ed002's Note - He should stop saying any such things in the public domain. It makes him look rather stupid.}


22.) 19 Jul 2018 17:11:16
The problem is that Klopp has made promises to players many times before and has let them down on numerous occasions. If he keeps doing this then he will gain a reputation as a liar, something he and the club will not want. Players will be hesitant to join us if they learn of Klopp's tendancy to promise and never stay committed to those promises. Would you work for someone who had a tendancy to behave as Klopp has in this regard?

Listen, I love Klopp as much as the next Liverpool fan but I am not blind to his antics. Klopp has outdone expectations, a Champions League final was never expected last season, but there are areas he can improve. Hopefully that will come with time.

Either way, it has been a great transfer window, regardless if no one else comes, but I just hope we don't have more cases of Grujic's and Ward's, who have been let down by the manager.


23.) 19 Jul 2018 17:45:10
LFC-S Mango, do you not think it is possible that Klopp made conditional promises to players such as Grujic and Ward who have let themselves down by not performing in training, thereby foregoing the opportunity to feature in the first team? Just a thought.


24.) 19 Jul 2018 17:14:48
Okay Ed002, many thanks. 👍.


25.) 19 Jul 2018 20:01:07
Danny Ward will become a very decent goalkeeper, and we'll remember this day when many regarded his sale as a smart piece of business. He deserved his chance to stake a claim at Liverpool, but he didn't get it. I wish him the very best.


26.) 19 Jul 2018 22:32:31
I think ward will develop. But surely the fact that klopp still trusted migs and karious says how he has trained on.


 

 

28 Dec 2017 04:18:50
Apparently the club is looking at Butland or Alisson of Roma as potential GK recruitments. Alisson is really good from what I have seem of him in the UCL but on the other hand, Im really disappointed Karius or Ward may never get a fair crack at LFC. Really hoped Klopp would give Karius an extended run to see how he does as the talent is clearly there.

Indian Buzzer

1.) 28 Dec 2017 06:20:10
I really wish Ward could get his chance or atleast go out on loan.


2.) 28 Dec 2017 08:08:43
Butland is a great shout and I hope it comes off, he is a personal favourite and more realistic than a Donnaruma let's say, put Gomez next to Van Dijk and let them build a partnership/ triangle, Gomez is going to make some mistakes but he needs to learn and I hope he gets the chance to grow in that position.


3.) 28 Dec 2017 09:30:06
I am over the moon with the VVD signing as central defence has been a problem for us for a number of years. However goalkeeper has been an issue for even longer. If we were to bring in a top keeper (highly unlikely now) in Jan then I think it's a straight shoot out between us and Chlsea (expecting them to spend in Jan) for 2nd. If we continue with Mig then top 4 will be down to who can mess up the least (similar to last season when us, Arsenal and Utd made it look they were trying their best to throw it away every time they had the opportunity) . For me just putting Ward in goal would increase those chances of gaining automatic CL qualification for next season.

{Ed025's Note - liverpool are the second best side in the league jayden and with the signing of VVD and keita i fully expect them to challenge for the title next season if they bring in a decent cat..


4.) 28 Dec 2017 09:26:06
Apparently trapp is of interest aswell have you heard out ed?

{Ed025's Note - he has been mentioned adam but thats about it at the moment mate..


5.) 28 Dec 2017 10:27:50
Thanks ed.

{Ed025's Note - no worries mate..


6.) 28 Dec 2017 10:48:08
If we were to sign Trapp after the VVD signing then there is a genuine chance that we can challenge for the Champions league this year. Our attack would frighten anyone in the competition and with a potential back line of Trapp Clyne Gomez/ Matip VVD and Robertson we could have a chance to keep most teams out at the other end. Albeit I do not know whether Trapp is cup tied.


7.) 28 Dec 2017 12:58:44
I can't say I've watched Trapp but reputationally he didn't sound like a top class keeper. I'd prefer we do what we did with VVD, identify the best possible guy and pay what's needed for him.

{Ed002's Note - Getting the money from where?}


8.) 28 Dec 2017 13:32:49
Sorry ed, I'm assuming we'll have the money to make at least one major signing this summer, I'd use it on a goalkeeper.

{Ed002's Note - and what about FFP and the wages? Liverpool need to be fiscally responsible and will continue to spend but that spending cannot simply be “what is needed”.}


9.) 28 Dec 2017 13:35:35
Coutinho of course ed002. Money has to come from somewhere.


10.) 28 Dec 2017 13:43:26
We are continually told Coutinho wants out. If or when he is sold the transfer fee will eclipse the VVD signing. Thus putting us well within FFP.

{Ed002's Note - It really doesn’t work quite like that.}


11.) 28 Dec 2017 15:25:44
Not a fan of Butland too many injuries and I don’t think he holds that much ability. I’ve not watched much of Trapp, Oblak would be a no go but I’d be cheeky and try for Donnarumma, the fans dislike him they think he’s bleeding the club dry, he doesn’t seem to be happy there, Real Madrid have other targets, no other top teams seem to be desperate for a goalkeeper? Worth a shot.

{Ed001's Note - he wants to leave but his manager is the same man as Balotelli so I am not sure it would be a realistic option, sadly.}


12.) 28 Dec 2017 15:07:06
Ed2, this raises the question, are we sailing close to the wind on FFP?

{Ed002's Note - It will be clearer in February when the accounts come but on wages yes.}


13.) 28 Dec 2017 15:08:48
The financial fair play I know little about so just a question to Ed2 if I may (apologies for lack of knowledge) but is the FFP a seasonal thing? does it go on what we earn? so for example, if Manchester City went and won the Premier League and Champions league which would obviously bring in more revenue, would they have more to spend on players/ wages? Hope that makes sense, I have never quite understood how it works.

{Ed002's Note - It is based on what clubs earn but not all earnings and expenditure are releavant - and it is a three year rolling period.}


14.) 28 Dec 2017 15:38:18
How are city and psg able to spend what they like with ffp, I thought it was same for all and not only if you've rich owners.

{Ed002's Note - They can't spend what they like - they have to abide by the rules.}


15.) 28 Dec 2017 17:31:20
Interesting thanks Ed2.


16.) 28 Dec 2017 22:03:53
From memory its at least partially based on your revenue. As in the more money you make, the more you can spend. So if say we were to get a whacking great shirt deal from Adidas then we could spend more in the market under FFP. Is this correct Ed002?

{Ed002's Note - Not really.}


 

 

12 Dec 2017 08:51:32
Rumors of Lemar popping up again. Torn on this potential deal. Will probably have to spend nearly all the Coutinho cash on Lemar and get a quality player to boost our first team but again we could go out and buy better defenders by selling Coutinho and giving Woodburn and Ojo more chances instead of splurging on Lemar. Hope Klopp gets this decision right.

Indian Buzzer

1.) 12 Dec 2017 09:44:46
Sorry but unless you want to challenge for the top four and push for the title I’m sorry but kids with potential won’t cut it. I’m all for giving them a chance but if we’re to compete with the teams above us in the league we also need to compete with them in the transfer market.


2.) 12 Dec 2017 10:08:34
I really think Lemar is the ideal signing to replace Coutinho. Comfortable out on the left where Klopp likes to deploy Coutinho. If Salah is going to stay more central like the last few games then Mane can go back on the right where he looked more lethal last year than he has on the left this year! Genuinely believe this signing would help the team immeasurably.


3.) 12 Dec 2017 11:45:20
Were are these rumours popping up again please IB? I no Ed002 said in the Sharkopod we have interest mate but a deal would be hard to get done.


4.) 12 Dec 2017 12:29:30
Fenton, Lemar's form this season worries me. Maybe because he is not giving his 100% after Monaco sold half their team and showed lack of ambition or he has not been able to adjust with his new team mates. But the money being touted around to sign Lemar is just plain ridiculous. I can understand spending 50-60 million pounds but close to 90 million? He is not worth that much.


5.) 12 Dec 2017 12:41:42
Indian in todays market mate that's the price you're going to have to pay unfortunately. I'm not saying I think he's worth that much but I think he's our best option out there if Coutinho leaves! Regarding his form, I trust Klopp to get the best out of any player so that doesn't worry me.


6.) 12 Dec 2017 13:08:06
Like him, but definitely not done enough to suggest he is a 90m player. Yes in today's market 50-60m but think if 90m is asking price we need to move on. There is still mane's and salah out there for far better value.

{Ed025's Note - they wont be asking you to contribute coco so dont worry about the price mate..


7.) 12 Dec 2017 13:51:13
Lemar shouldn't be the priority! Need defenders first.


8.) 12 Dec 2017 13:45:05
Lol Ed025. Your reply to Coco just made me spit coffee on my laptop screen. You owe me one laptop screen cleaning solution.

{Ed025's Note - i will put one in the post IB mate.. :)


9.) 12 Dec 2017 13:56:27
Ed025, Are you aware were or why this has surfaced from again mate today?

{Ed025's Note - not really KR, liverpool will always be associated with good players mate and he is certainly one of them..


10.) 12 Dec 2017 14:55:07
I would rather we raid Leipzig again for Forsberg.


11.) 12 Dec 2017 15:09:34
Thanks forthe reassurance Ed025 Haha I was getting worried it would near empty my account. (I wish)

{Ed025's Note - you save your money coco im sure the club dont need it mate..


12.) 12 Dec 2017 15:48:46
Cheers ed. I just wish I knew what was fact and what is fabricated mate.

{Ed025's Note - im sure we will find out presently KR mate..


13.) 12 Dec 2017 17:31:51
Yes mate im sure we will. I was kinda hoping you might know mate lol🤔.

{Ed002's Note - I can tell you that whilst in Switzerland and Monte Carlo that another English club have been talking to Monaco about Lemar and another matter in the past couple of days.}


14.) 12 Dec 2017 18:47:32
Ok Ed002. Thanks. You did say there is plenty of interest in him and a deal would be a hard one to get done. Especially if other club ate already making advances. Not likely then by the sounds of it.

{Ed002's Note - There is interest in him from a number of clubs.}


15.) 13 Dec 2017 03:53:02
We won't be getting Lemar. Pretty confident about that.
Someone like Draxler looks a more realistic and like for like replacement for Coutinho (if he leaves in January) .


16.) 13 Dec 2017 07:07:25
IB you started this rumour mate lol.


17.) 13 Dec 2017 20:01:49
The club has already declined to go to 90m level for Lemar last summer so don’t see why would change.


 

 

26 Sep 2017 15:44:41
Hey Ed001, have we shown any interest in Lascelles or Lejeune of Newcastle? You said Klopp wants 2 CBs by next summer of which I assume one will be VVD. Maybe one of the two Newcastle Cbs would be a good options for us considering they would be cheaper than the alternatives bandied about and from what I have seen of them, they seem disciplined enough to be effective in a high line.

Indian Buzzer

{Ed001's Note - not recently in Lascelles, before he moved to Newcastle we were interested, but not since. As for Lejeune, he was being watched by a lot of clubs, we certainly looked at him, but it was Arsenal (if I remember rightly) that Newcastle beat to his signature.}


1.) 26 Sep 2017 16:06:29
I can't see were you said this ed about Klopp wanting 2 new CB's by next summer?

{Ed001's Note - the plan originally was one this summer, one next, to give Gomez a season to see if he was worth developing rather than buying the second one. That was what I actually said.}


2.) 26 Sep 2017 16:51:05
Ok mate. And were do you think we are at now? Still wanting 2 in? Bloody hell its already sounding like another rebuilding job mate next year replacing Couts, Can and 2 CB's already lol.

{Ed001's Note - right now I think Klopp would just be glad to get one in!}


3.) 26 Sep 2017 17:28:45
Agreed. Possibly in Jan?


4.) 07 Oct 2017 07:58:54
Can is replaced with Keita, Couts might not be leaving but otherwise yes I guess there will be full rebuild in the defenxe wich will take time to adapt after .


 

 

 

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07 May 2019 22:26:08
All I can say is that I am ashamed of even thinking that we should have thrown this game and concentrated on the league instead.
What an INCREDIBLE NIGHT!
Now onto Brighton nicking something against Pep and his mercenaries!

Indian Buzzer

 

 

19 Apr 2019 15:50:24
Well it looks like Ed002 may have been right about certain Man City forwards being unhappy about playing time and left out of big games. Is this possibly the reason Klopp doe snot want another top quality forward as it may cause disharmony within the camp?
Man City have been privileged to have players like Sane, Mahrez and Jesus on the bench to come and make an impact but it seems Mahrez and Sane may already be looking for a way out of the club. Players of their ilk will never accept being on the bench in big games or playing second fiddle. They will want to start as many games as possible.
The likes of Werner, Insigne, Dybala etc can hence be discounted as they are players who will expect to be first choice first team players, not rotation options.
Our best bet is to go for someone like Brant who can play numerous positions to accumulate enough games to keep a top player happy because let's be honest, no one is displacing our front 3 anytime soon. Let's just trust Klopp and Edwards to make sure there are no unhappy players in the locker room. Unless one of the front 3 leave, we are not signing big money forwards any time soon, and the club has every reason not to do so.

Indian Buzzer

{Ed002's Note - I don't think there is anything relating to Klopp not wanting a "top quality" forward as coaches don't look at players on that basis. They look at players who can provide options without disrupting the team and playing style, and they look at players who can fit in with the team and the playing style. If, say Mane and Salah were to go, Liverpool would look to replace them with other who are suitable to be first pick players - the likes of Dybala and Insigne (as an example).}


1.) 19 Apr 2019 16:06:22
I’m interested to find out more about doe snot, IB.

Sounds like a particular affliction for our deer population that may be serious if not dealt with.

It could be something that has crossed species - neigh fever?


2.) 19 Apr 2019 16:16:58
Just think if we we sign a top class Brazilian Defender during the Summer, we will have a full Brazilian Spine of the team? At the moment Spine is 75% Brazilian VVD odd one out!

Alisson, VVD (well he plays like a Brazilian! ) Fabhino, Firmino how about Silva (PSG) who would be a great addition to the squad. All the scouts out there and i don't mean " BOY SCOUTS " any good young Brazilian Defenders that could add value to the team for next year?


3.) 19 Apr 2019 18:31:45
classic Zed.


4.) 19 Apr 2019 19:45:53
Spot on, IB. I know a few posters here were asking why can't LFC have such top players like Sane, Mahrez or Dybala as part of the squad and I remember Ed02 saying such players will not like to sit on the bench cos they are already used to starting. Now we are seeing the adverse effects of this strategy cos now, Sane is reluctant to sign a new contract. Gundogan as well is in the same boat and Mahrez can't get a sniff.

As Ed02 has said, we need to get in good players who provide options (such as Brandt who can play every attacking position bar CF) fit the team ethos and will not disrupt the team chemistry and style and I fully agree that such players are what we need. Bringing the likes of Dyabala or Insigne in now will definitely disrupt the team chemistry and playing style cos Klopp will always play the front 3 when all are fit.


5.) 19 Apr 2019 21:01:12
spot on Red, Klopp has more to his tactics and team / squad selection than meets the eye . a smaller tight squad is the better option .


6.) 19 Apr 2019 21:29:20
City have won titles through this period of "disharmony". I like how we do it but therr is a cost benefit to everything. City's benefit has been multiple titles. ours so far has been group harmony.


7.) 20 Apr 2019 05:09:10
Faith, all those titles have come at a cost of City paying those bench players over 100k a week. We don't have that kind of money, and certainly not for the enormous transfer fees that would need to be paid to get players of that calibre.
There is a limit to our budget, hence the Shaqiri signing and willingness to give origi a new contract than going for Werner/ Insigne etc.


 

 

12 Jan 2019 00:20:56
Sorry Ed001, i sent the previous post by mistake before I completed it.

Do you think that Klopp changing his tactics where its more about game management and playing slightly more deeper in our own half that requires our CMs to be more conservative does not fit into Keita's profile as a midfielder for LFC?
Klopp has tried playing him on the left where he looks lost, he is not creative enough when chasing a game either so where is Keita's place in LFC's midfield? Gini, Fab and Hendo are shoe ins for the deeper midfield roles while Shaq and OX are better suited for the creative midfield roles. It leaves Keita in between a hard place and a rock. He looks more like BUVac signing with each passing game.

Indian Buzzer

{Ed001's Note - he will be fine, he is adaptable and will find his place in the squad.}


1.) 12 Jan 2019 04:36:28
All of this has come about because he had one bad game at Wolves. He’s a new player to a new league and he’s had several injuries. A month ago away at Burnley he was our best player. There is no patience with players anymore.


2.) 12 Jan 2019 08:10:34
Agreed Smeg. Personally I don't think we'll see Keita at his best until next season and that's fine, some players can't adapt as quickly as others, it happens, they're only human. He's a quality player and already being wrote off by some people (not saying you IB) but in general quite a lot of people have wrote him off as a failure. As smeg says, no patience anymore, give the lad time.


3.) 12 Jan 2019 10:13:48
Spot on, Smeg and Salah. This is just a storm in a tea cup, really. Keita did not play well at Wolves and so did a BUNCH of others so what is the big deal. He is a new player of proven quality coming from a top league in Germany. We all know this so why are people (not you OP) so miffed about a new player still trying to find his feet in his first season in a new team, a new league and a new country? Clearly that has never happened to any foreign player in football history, right?

Also had Keita not shown glimpses of his immense talent, then I would understand. We all saw him boss the midfield vs WH, boss the whole Burnley game by himself at times and was very good vs Spurs at Wembley where they had NO answer for him. Please, let the guy develop at his own pace and leave the impatience to one side. This is what fans did to Fab as well early on and now look at him. Keita is top quality and will be fine. Up Da Pool!


4.) 12 Jan 2019 10:26:29
He’s struggling for form at the moment and Shaqiri is playing out of his skin to keep him out. If Shaqiri or someone else goes through a rough patch I’m sure he’ll be the one taking their place. We started the season in a 4-3-3 which suited Keita more than fabs at the time. Now it’s 4-2-3-1 and fabs is flourishing and it doesn’t suit Keita currently. Both players need time to adapt to new systems, languages and team mates. I have no doubt that if someone was to get injured, Naby would come in and do a great job until the end of the season and beyond. Once he gets into the side consistently, I bet he’ll be bloody hard to displace!


5.) 12 Jan 2019 10:34:52
I am his biggest fan but I was definitely expecting better by this stage. He can play everywhere in midfield I have seen him excel as the holding midfield, box to box and wide in a front 3. He is lacking confidence and he is playing within himself. Goals, assists, tackles this is his game and we are not getting any.

In Germany there was never a game he didn't but in a debatable challenge he was always in the heart of the action. I can't even remember him putting in a tackle for Liverpool. It's like everyone was worried about his nasty streak and the coaches have gone too far and have him playing with the shakles on. I still hope he plays today and can express himself more.


 

 

12 Jan 2019 00:16:40
Ed001, I wanted to pick your brains on what will happen with Naby Keita. Do you think its a case of a player being at the wrong club at the wrong time? He is a quality player no doubt but I just get the feeling that he was brought in keeping in mind the way we played last season but the change in tactics where game management and winning the ball slightly deeper compared to last season.

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03 Jan 2019 10:10:40
So according to Rafa Honigstein, Klopp has no intention of strengthening our front line for the foreseeable future. While I would have liked us to sign another forward to add more depth, it seems Klopp has a lot of faith in Harry Wilson coming back and making an impact and maybe Sturridge will get a contract extension on reduced terms with Brewster waiting in the wings.
I know a lot of LFC fans will be unhappy with us not pushing for Werner or someone similar but KLopp imo has done enough to earn the fans' trust when it comes to transfers. It will be good to see LFC lads like Wilson and Brewster make the grade at the club.

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1.) 03 Jan 2019 10:29:42
Agreed mate, I have seen enough of Klopp now to trust him. I've been doubtful of his signings in the past but been proven wrong. In Klopp we trust. We have to now.


2.) 03 Jan 2019 11:02:42
The issue is that people (including me) look at the front 3 and think "is there any player of similar quality to replace them"? I think we were lucky last year with none of them getting injured - till Salah in the Champions League final. But we saw how his injury affected the team. Shaqiri has come in, but can he effectively replace Salah? Besides, he has played in our most effective formation (my opinion), the 4-2-3-1, so he hasn't exactly been a replacement for the front 3.
The hope is that Sturridge comes good in the second half of the season. He started the season okay, but we'll need him in top form for the second half.


3.) 03 Jan 2019 11:23:57
I agree IB.

I think Wilson, Brewster, Jones and Duncan could provide that cover whilst getting some decent time on the pitch to hopefully push through to first team football.

For me when Salah or Mane go off we lose pace from our attack and I think that's why Sturridge struggle. Happy to see the youngsters get a chance though rather than spend huge if we are keeping our front three together.


4.) 03 Jan 2019 11:32:31
realtofel, the catch here is that every person who knows anything about football will know that our first choice frontline is not going to change any time soon unless someone was to leave. The trick is finding someone with the same quality as our frontline and willing to sit on the bench for a considerable period of time. Unfortunately there is no way LFC will pay through the roof in terms of wages for a top player to play in a rotational capacity. That imo was the primary reason why we never moved for Pulisic.
It made no sense to pay 60 odd million for someone who plays 25 games maximum in the season considering none of our forward players are injury prone. It would have been a bad move for both the club and player. The same issues will crop up if it was werner or someone similar. I can see Sturridge getting a 2 year contract extension to give Brewster time to step up to the first team squad while Wilson comes back to provide cover for Salah and Firmino.
LIke Ed002 said, it is likely that our next two signings will be someone like Laxalt (cover for both Robbo and Mane) and a creative midfielder (to replace Milner and Lallana) . Oh and a backup GK once Migs leaves.
Beyond those 3 positions, I cannot see LFC splashing cash on luxury players like Pulisic or Werner.


5.) 03 Jan 2019 11:50:26
If we start winning titles regularly, we'll find players like Mahrez and Jesus will happily sit on our bench too. Players don't mind being a part of winning team. But if you are not winning or playing regularly, of course it won't interest anybody long term.


6.) 03 Jan 2019 12:04:03
MK, both Jesus and Mahrez are earning north of 100k a week to sit on the bench. And what exactly have they contributed to City's season exactly? They are worse off this season from last season in spite of adding more depth to their front line. Shaq and Sturridge have earned us more points than Jesus and Mahrez, and FSG ain't paying 100k a week for perennial benchwarmers anymore. WE already have a few that will be shipped out in the summer anyways. OX will be back to add creativity and drive to our midfield which means Shaq and Wilson will cover for Salah and Mane while Sturridge and Brewster will cover for Firmino.
The reason why our front line is so consistent and deadly is because they play together consistently without unnecessary tinkering that could hinder their form (Mahrez seems to be hindering Sterling and Sane's form) . I would rather have squad harmony over primadonnas creating nuisance over playing time in the dressing room. Squad rotation has done Mahrez and Jesus no favours and Klopp probably thinks that any new incomings are likely to have the same problems due to lack of consistent game time.


7.) 03 Jan 2019 12:27:07
Isn’t Sturridge a 100k a week benchwarmer?


8.) 03 Jan 2019 12:29:14
@IB. "FSG ain't paying 100k a week for perennial benchwarmers anymore". You do realise Sturridge is on £110k a week?


9.) 03 Jan 2019 12:28:24
I don't think City have any problems going forward to be honest. They're top scorers in the league. Sterling and Sane aren't struggling at all. They're two of the most prolific players in the league this season in terms of goals and assists. And Mahrez and Jesus have both scored a lot of goals already.

City's problem is that Fernandinho is their only defensive minded midfielder (and he's over rated anyway), their full backs are awful defensively, their goal keeper constantly makes the same mistakes (as well as only has a left foot), and their centre backs are all slow ball players who can't defend.

Any body who gets at them has a reasonable chance of out-scoring them. Not because their forwards are struggling or at odds with eachother, but because you can bypass their midfield and their defence will wilt under pressure. You don't walk the ball into the net regularly if your forwards aren't playing for one another.

Mahrez and Jesus are great players to have on the bench and maybe salary is a factor, but again, you can't pay/ justify those salaries unless you are winning trophies and generating profit on the pitch.

I respect your opinion but I really don't understand how anyone can genuinely think City's forwards are the problem. I don't think they have anyone affecting dressing room harmony. They just can't defend because Pep thinks possession is defending.

{Ed025's Note - i cant agree on fernandinho MK, he is a fine player and the glue that holds that city midfield together mate..


10.) 03 Jan 2019 12:32:14
I hope that won’t come and bite us on the arse later Indian buzzer 🙈.


11.) 03 Jan 2019 12:37:38
Epic Potato, read my posts carefully. If Sturridge gets a new contract, it will be on reduced terms. When the likes of Lallana, Sturridge got their 100k a week contracts, they were first team players. Now they are not.


12.) 03 Jan 2019 12:44:29
MK, yes City are still scoring goals (it would be criminal if they didn't with the talent they have) but from what I have seen of Sterling and Sane, they don't look as good as last season. Sane was struggling with rotation early this season and Sterling is clearly someone who needs a consistent run of games to keep performing at a higher level. I just don't think Mahrez has or will justify spending 60 million pounds on him anytime soon. Jesus has been shocking this season if u have seen him play. Right up there with Morata in terms of finishing chances.


13.) 03 Jan 2019 13:06:57
Sterling has 10 goals and 7 assists. Sane has 8 and 8. Mahrez 7 and 6. Jesus 7 and 2. Aguero 13 and 5. None of their forwards are struggling per se, but they are not scoring as many as last season (other than Sane who is on course to beat his tally from last year) .

A lot of that has to be attributed to the loss of De Bruyne though. David Silva might knit the play together, but KDB has the best delivery/ final pass in Europe. Losing him has understandably affected the goal scoring form of their front men. Only comparative to the bar they set last season though. They've scored 75 goals in all competitions (minus own goals) in half a season. That is staggering and no indication that they are struggling.

The number of assists they all have is proof enough for me that they are playing for each other as well. If they weren't passing to players in better positions anymore I'd agree it was affecting them but they are still walking it over the line with brilliant inter-play and selfless passing moves.

I really don't see any issues with them offensively. Maybe we have better individuals in the starting XI, but their depth is so impressive they still score more goals than us comfortably. IF we finish above them it will be because our defence is leagues ahead of theirs, and because we have 3 solid holding midfielders in Fabinho, Gini and Hendo. Not because Mahrez has affected the harmony amongst their forwards. That is just my opinion though. Everyone sees things differently so I'm not saying you're wrong. I just disagree buddy.


14.) 03 Jan 2019 13:16:21
Agree with most over here. It's only been 3-4 months with this "adjusted" style of play and the front 3 have more than a year playing together. They could run around with their eyes closed and know where the other 2 would probably be. No need to rock the boat and tinker simply for the sake of tinkering. And Shaqiri has shown that he can be a starter and be effective (a little bit with us and mostly with his previous teams), and there's no drastic drop in performance. I do agree that a 4th forward who could play across the frontline would probably be a very desirable thing, but it's a luxury that we probably cannot afford, and it's not necessarily Klopp's way of doing things. I'm keeping an eye on Wilson. With fingers crossed that he becomes a huge plus for the team after the summer.


15.) 03 Jan 2019 14:17:51
I agree with MK. With the position we're in, I don't see why we can't attract a forward player on the same level as Mane/ Salah/ Firmino.
City has KDB/ B. Silva, Gundogan/ D. Silva, Mahrez/ Sane/ Sterling, Jesus/ Aguero.
I hope Wilson comes good next season. But in the position we're now, with probably the best opportunity to win the league in over 25 years, I think it's fair for people to think "who can come in now and make sure we get over the line".
It isn't a case of downplaying the influence/ abilities of Klopp or any of the current players.


16.) 03 Jan 2019 15:47:20
Let's not forget. The ox can play up front on the wing. In fact most people thought that is where he would play for us. And the front three are so interchangeable I'm not worried. Studge and origi on the bench, shaq available, has proved he can score. Nah, we are fine ip there.

It's lcb or gk we don't want to lose to injury.


17.) 03 Jan 2019 19:21:56
Honigstein is not telling anyone (who knows anything about Klopp) what they don't already know. Klopp does not like signing players in January even tho if one is out there, he will try like he did with Allison, Asensio and Mariano Diaz (now back at RM from Lyon) previously. I have no issues trying to get a forward in to give some depth to the squad. The question is who that player is and is he good enuff to come in and get going midseason. The answer to that ios that there are NOT any out there. Werner? Werner is pretty poor and the goals have dried up for him esp. without Keita getting him the ball at RBL anymore. He has pace BUT is poor in front of goal and in his final touch is awful, IMO.

Also, what good player can you get in Jan who will come and be third choice behind Bobbie and Studge? Why would such a player come here and do that? These are the questions no one is asking. Our front 3 are brilliant and should anyone of them miss some time, we simply reinvent the way we play. Shaq can play anywhere behind the main striker. Mane can play the CF position as well as the no. 10 like he did with Senegal at the last WC depending on who is out. I trust Klopp when it comes to signings or well, non-signings so I think people should stop dreading the worst (one of our forwards getting injured) and hope for the best.


18.) 04 Jan 2019 00:37:36
IB
A lot of contradictions. What does Mahrez and Jesus adds to the team? Well they add quality depth which is why they are in the semi finals of carabo cup and potentially in other three tournaments!
So having quality bench is only good for a team let it be any team and if you want to challenge on all 4 fronts then you need quality on the bench.
The club should not extend contacts of Sturridge and Lallana beyond this summer. The team has upped a level and these players should be sold.
I wouldn’t mind a few Shaqiri on the bench than Lallana and Sturridge on reduced wages!
I agree with MK. When we start winning trophies no players would have problems in joining a winning team without any any guarantees.


 

 

 

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Would be a good signing for his versatility and HG quota. Good cover for Robbo and can play CB if needed.

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A bit unfair on Karius there Ed001. At his best, he is better than grandpa Buffon and spilly hands Areola.

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12 May 2019 07:11:13
UNless Salah kicks up a fuss and becomes a nuisance in the dressing room, we should be holding on to him. We need to build on what we have achieved this season and look to go one better in the league next season, and salah is integral to that.

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05 May 2019 14:26:01
Of standard to start in this LFC team?
And which player would you drop to accommodate GRujic?
We already have a flexible and good variety of midfielders in Hendo, Fabinho, Keita, Ox and Gini. Grujic would basically be a Milner replacement/ 6th choice which I am pretty sure the lad does not want. If there is a team actually willing to pay what we want, then its best for all parties that Grujic moves on. The same goes for Wilson.

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05 May 2019 10:36:55
No chance unless Mane goes which is unlikely since Real will probably get Hazard.
Plus I doubt we have that sort of money City would want to part ways with him.

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19 May 2019 04:02:23
No team with a clear identity has world class players on the bench they have no idea what to do with. Even the players that warm the bench at Barca, Real or City are not exactly top notch. The likes of Sane, Mahrez, Gundogan, Malcom, Coutinho, Vidal, Isco, Bale etc are either past it, overrated or were never world class in the first place. That's why they are sat on the bench.
At the minute, we are not signing anyone that will be anywhere near as good as our first 11 (excluding our midfield which Klopp likes to rotate and is very player specific about) .
Alisson is in the top 5 GKs in world football and the best in the BPL at the minute.
TAA and Robbo are the best full back pairing in world football at the minute.
Our front 3 don't need any justification as to why they should be undisputed starters.
We cannot expect some of the best players in their position to sign, but we can get in people like Depay, Kenny Lala or whoever it is the club is looking at that will not demand to start every game and is willing to work their way up and earn their place.

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19 May 2019 03:52:03
I still want us to sign a senior full back that can cover for both Robbo and TAA when needed. Not sure throwing Adam Lewis or Ki Jana in to the deep end when there is a possibility that we will need to win 99% of our games next season to win the league is a good idea. Get in someone like Ricardo or Kenny Lala and send Lewis out on loan.
Brewster seems to be a different kettle of fish the way Klopp has treated him. Clearly Klopp sees him as a generational talent and he will likely be an understudy to Bobby. WE still need a versatile forward on top of that though. DEpay seems the latest to be doing the rounds after the Brandt snub. Wouldn't be a bad option to have imo.

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19 May 2019 03:46:55
The Community Shield will be a good test to see where we stand compared to City after the summer window. If this season showed anything, it was that we cannot rely on other teams to take points of City as they are so much better than the other teams except us. The target next season will be to match all our results against the other 18 teams and to take 6 points off City (which we did not do and hence lost the league) . The Community Shield game gives KLopp and opportunity to evaluate a new strategy to beat City next season just like Pep figured LFC out this season.

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18 May 2019 11:04:29
WE can get Brandt or Fekir for a fraction of what Coutinho would cost and his wages. Plus, Fekir and Brandt do not have long standing back problems.

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16 May 2019 06:23:46
If we win the UCL, it could actually mean top players wanting to join us than us actually wanting them. We will be in unchartered territory like Barcelona and Real.
So let's put transfer talks to one side and focus on the UCL which could change the club's fortunes for years to come.

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