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20 Aug 2024 18:42:16
If you have time Ed002, I'm reading (albeit in the tabloid sites) that Bayer Leverkusen are interested in Sepp VDB and are potentially the front runners ahead of Brentford as they can offer CL football.
Do we still hold interest in Hincapie and if so, would a plyer plus cash deal be feasible?
{Ed002's Note - Sepp van den Berg (CB) He likely won't get a chance as a starter at Liverpool and will most likely be sold in the summer to raise funds if a buyer can be found - could be a mistake by the club but the player has taken the position that he wants to move although he seems to me to be an ideal Matip replacement. There is no release clause for Mainz but they will have a first pick option if he were to be sold - and they have made their interest known and will look for another loan with an option to buy the player who had a great season. They have already held talks with Liverpool. PSV, Brentford, Bayer Leverkusenn, Southampton and Wolfsburg offer options. Will need to speak to the club and see what other options he has, but he certainly burned bridges in an interview with De Telegraaf. Player now says he is being priced out of a move to PSV and is seriously miffed with the club. He says communication is non existant.
Piero Hincapie (CB) Interest of Nottingham Forest will go nowhere. Scouted and rejected by Spurs as not being ready for the Premier League, but he may well be now and they are struggling to find a target to join them. Apparently open to a move to Liverpool as they look for cover but his expectation is to be a starter but that would take the departure of van Dijk and Liverpool have a preferred option under those circumstances. Atletico have spoken with Bayer Leverkusen who are reluctant to make changes at CB although there is pressure mouting over interest both Tapsoba and Tah. Milan and Roma have both sent scouts, but no more than that.}
13 Aug 2024 23:02:39
Now that United have completed the De Ligt deal, have Liverpool shown any interest in Branthwaite?
I know transfers between us and Liverpool are rare, but they do happen (Ablett, Beardsley, Xavier) .
It’s been quoted that Everton are wanting £70m. At that price for a HG player, and given what I have seen of him, there’s VVD’s heir right there.
Ed002, any whispers?
{Ed002's Note - None.}
1.) 14 Aug 2024 08:20:08
Thanks Ed002, that's a shame.
2.) 14 Aug 2024 08:35:12
And sorry, I should have said "transfers between us and Everton"!
3.) 14 Aug 2024 08:35:41
As if Everton would sell to us in the first place. I think they’d rather go bankrupt than sell a player to us.
4.) 14 Aug 2024 08:40:24
Also worth mentioning Everton's owners are on the way out so I doubt they would shy away from making unpopular decisions if the deal is good on paper.
{Ed002's Note - Liverpoool has no interest in him.}
5.) 14 Aug 2024 09:45:42
What is all this about Branthwaite? Is it a group hypnotism or something?
He’s always looked pretty average whenever I’ve seen him and now he’s being talked about as VVD’s heir!
I don’t know what you lot are smoking but I want some.
6.) 14 Aug 2024 10:21:45
I think we should all take a moment to appreciate the possibility of Harry and De Ligt being United’s central defence next season. Life isn’t all doom and gloom.
07 Aug 2024 22:56:58
Bit of a random thought.
Really excited to (hopefully) see Zubimendi sign - anyone who has learnt from Xabi and is praised by him has got to be special!
Seeing links to Kone resurfacing in the last few days, apparently available for around half of his €50 release clause.
Still only 23.
I wonder if he could also be incoming with Endo leaving?
Any news as to whether we have made any enquiries for Kone, Ed002? Or is he an alternative to Zubimendi rather than an 'aswell as'?
{Ed002's Note - He would be an alternative.}
1.) 08 Aug 2024 10:12:10
Thanks Ed002, figured that might be the case, especially with the other midfielders we have on the books.
A significant one for me would be Bajcetic, who wasn't really in the picture last season due to injury.
Hopefully he can stay fit and pick up his form from 2 seasons ago.
{Ed002's Note - Yes, it looks like Stefan Bajcetic has the potential for a good future.}
2.) 08 Aug 2024 11:11:23
Who have you all got as the starting 11 (inc Zubi) and main shadow 11 as things stand? Who is likely to miss out/ be surplus?
02 Aug 2024 18:24:09
One for Ed002 if you have time.
A few stories flying around the tabloids about Owen Beck today.
Do you know what the clubs plans are for him? Sell, loan or keep in the first team squad?
The romantic in me would like him to stay and push Robbo and Kostas (if he stays) given his family history, but we have to be realistic!
{Ed002's Note - Owen Beck (LB) No clear future at Liverpool - maybe one last loan with interest from Celtic.}
1.) 03 Aug 2024 14:22:07
Loan to Celtic for a whole season would be a great move - competing at the top in Europe - great experience and hopefully could come back up a level or gets sold for a decent fee.
{Ed002's Note - May just be back up to Taylor.}
31 Jul 2024 12:56:07
Question for Ed002 (and Square Tomato if he is around) .
Is Joe Gomez looking to move away? Lots of stories doing the rounds that Joe was to be included as part of the Anthony Gordon deal if it went ahead, but as Newcastle sold Minteh to Brighton, they no longer needed to sell Gordon too.
Joe is a great versatile defender who can cover a lot of places in the back line if required. However, I would completely understand if he is looking for regular 1st team action at another club.
{Ed002's Note - Joe Gomez (CB) Agent is talking to Michael Emenalo and other clubs but I doubt Liverpool will want anymore HG players to leave although they did offer him to Newcastle as part of a deal for the HG Gordon, something which would have suited the plyer who wants more game time. Could be revisited.}
1.) 31 Jul 2024 13:45:43
Inter web saying Gordon/ gomez 90% done?
2.) 31 Jul 2024 14:08:57
I have a feeling only 1 of SVD and Gomez will stay, taking on the role as 4th choice centre back.
3.) 31 Jul 2024 14:42:58
Jay, I think those stories are old (even though they seem to be having a surge now) . Apparently it was on the cards (Gomez + £30m for Gordon) pre the PSR deadline. Newcastle have no financial need to sell now, but Gordon may be pushing for a move.
4.) 31 Jul 2024 17:48:31
45m for gomez? More likely 30m for Joe and 45m for Gordon. I'd take that.
5.) 01 Aug 2024 00:44:37
Is van den berg home grown?
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27 Aug 2024 20:23:56
Mamardashvili confirmed!
Welcome to Liverpool Georgi (well, next season, maybe! )
1.) 27 Aug 2024 20:55:30
It worked so well for us with Naby Keita so we thought we’d do it again ?
Nah just kidding, good luck to him. Hope he has a great season.
2.) 27 Aug 2024 23:47:34
He's not like Keita. It soon became obvious that he should get rid of him but Georgi's a keeper.
3.) 28 Aug 2024 05:18:02
Haha @rigsby I hope the pun was intended!
09 Aug 2024 13:03:45
Genuine question - how on earth is Dom Solanke worth £57m?
I suppose we all asked how he was worth £19m a few years back, but he was still breaking through then and had potential at the age of c21 when he joined Bournemouth.
He's done OK, and there's always the HG premium, but still, £57m?!?!
I'm not complaining, means we pocket a further c£7.5m from the sale, but I just don't see it.
1.) 09 Aug 2024 13:28:00
He’s English and he just scored a whole bunch of goals in the prem, zed, also he scored pretty much on par with his Xg which means that he possibly didn’t sensationally over perform in some freakish way on a one-off season. Personally don’t think he’s worth more than 35mill but what do I know.
2.) 09 Aug 2024 13:30:52
Quite crazy Zed. He got 19 league goals last season but only 6 the season before.
Well played by the club for putting a sell on clause in though.
3.) 09 Aug 2024 13:39:04
If he was a Liverpool player, Spurs offer £8 million.
4.) 09 Aug 2024 13:49:39
Scored 19 last season, there isn't a great striker market, he's young enough and English. The market is inflated and he's that important to Bournemouth who didn't want to sell and Spurs have a need.
Spurs paid close to that for Richalison who had only hit 13 goals for Everton. Kolo Muani went for more after a 15 goal season. It's just the going rate these days.
5.) 09 Aug 2024 14:16:11
Ron, we netted about that from this sale, so maybe the best solution is to sell on players to other clubs with massive sell on shares!
6.) 09 Aug 2024 14:22:45
I agree total madness, Solanke is definitely not worth anywhere near £57m.
7.) 09 Aug 2024 16:49:32
Funny thing is he’s better than Nunez.o
8.) 09 Aug 2024 17:56:51
Well he scored 8 goals more than our 75m striker who every seems to defend to the hilt so 57m sounds a good deal. Spurs will create a lot more chances for him.
9.) 09 Aug 2024 18:10:19
He's really improved since his days with us. Excellent presser and has come on massively as a finisher. When you look at the deals around world football I actually think this is decent. He's an upgrade on Richarlison for sure.
10.) 09 Aug 2024 22:18:51
I don’t care how many goals he scored last season (the only season he’s got into double figures) . Solanke is not better than Nunez. Not by a long, long way.
Anyone who says he is, is absolutely clueless.
11.) 09 Aug 2024 22:36:03
Zed, I think they had to pay that cos LFC get a cut of the transfer fee. Also, I would not swap Darwin for Solanke at any point, like Beckers said. Not ever.
12.) 10 Aug 2024 03:38:57
@BP, your last sentence should have started with ‘In my opinion’.
13.) 10 Aug 2024 06:53:05
Solanke was always a good player, great vision and link up play, even when we was with us. He just couldn't seem to hit the back of he net. Now he's changed that to an extent he's a pretty well rounded striker and English to boot so it's pretty standard price I'd say. Nunez is similar but younger so I'd say the prices are fair and comparable.
14.) 10 Aug 2024 12:37:01
Normally I’d agree with you WDW but in this case it’s not even an opinion it’s a cold hard fact.
05 Aug 2024 10:53:36
Not Liverpool or football related, but RIP Graham Thorpe.
Absolutely shocked to hear the news.
He was the next gen of England cricketers that I grew up watching - after the likes of Gower, Lamb, Botham retired.
No age.
1.) 05 Aug 2024 14:19:43
Gone too soon Zed, 55 no age at all. A fine player, one of our best 100 tests average of 44, in the 1990’s team that was unheard of. Stylish and nuggety player you’d push out the door at 20-3.
Took ill last year but heard nothing since so was a shock RIP Thorpey.
2.) 05 Aug 2024 14:29:10
I was once working at co op wimbledon park thorp came in i was on the till and when he came to i saw him and i was excited to see him had a chat with him was a good gentlemen great loss to for cricket.
3.) 05 Aug 2024 15:34:37
Loved Thorpe, i remember him batting against Donald very fast from S. A, staring down the pitch, Thorpe said Fu£& off up there and bowl, great character, great cricketer. R. I. P.
4.) 05 Aug 2024 20:37:24
Don’t know how/ why he died but I do know the lad suffered terribly with depression and the demon drink.
Great cricketer, heart of a lion, never gave in. Faced the greatest bowlers (Warne, Ambrose, McGrath, Murali, Kumble, Kallis, Donald) . In a mediocre England team, he always stood up.
That win in UAE against Pakistan in the dark was incredible. Will never happen again.
R. I. P. Thorpey, I hope he’s at peace up there and smashing 2 of my favourites Warne and Marshall around.
01 Aug 2024 14:01:50
Let's just say that PSV follow up their interest on SVDB (I'd prefer not, I'd like him to stay, but anyway! ) .
Who would you prefer if we were able to send Sepp + cash?
Bakayoko or someone we have been linked with recently in Veerman?
1.) 01 Aug 2024 14:36:10
Hypothetically, speaking… If salah isn't sold this summer I wouldn’t bother signing Bakayoko to sit on the bench - mo is so resilient that he plays most games 90 minutes. Maybe one for next summer
I haven’t watched veerman play other than the euros so can’t comment on that but I would be wary of signing players straight from the erideverse for CM as they will have a lot less time and space in the PL and, it’s a big step up.
2.) 01 Aug 2024 14:43:07
Neither are good enough. Our youth are better.
3.) 01 Aug 2024 14:48:20
Forgive me for this (as it's going to sound Victor-esque) but Bakayoko is just another Anthony, Assaidi, Ziyech, Bergwijn etc level winger in my opinion. The Dutch league has a habit of making forwards look better than they are. Gakpo was worth the risk because he was abolsutely tearing it to pieces and had more goals/ assists by the January we signed him than players like Bakayoko accumulate in a whole season. But even Gakpo hasn't exactly hit the ground running in the Prem or been an unequivocal success.
It's such a weak league defensively in Holland that for a forward player playing there to be worth the gamble they have to be churning out exceptional numbers. Suarez for example scored 49 goals in 48 games in his last full season at Ajax. That's the level I expect from players in that league to know that they're good enough to step up. Gakpo had 13 goals and 17 assists in all competitions by January. So Bakayoko's 14 goals and 14 assists in the entirety of last season just doesn't fill me with any confidence. I do like Veerman though, but not sure he's an upgrade on what we have in his position. Of the two, he'd be my pick by default, purely because Bakayoko's numbers are just plain average for that league. I think we should be aiming higher, and PSV don't deserve our business after the derisory offer for van den Berg anyway.
4.) 01 Aug 2024 15:25:02
Hey chaps, thanks for the replies. Adam, I take your point about a weaker defensive league 'artificially' boosting attacking stats.
However, we need to consider age too.
Both Gakpo and Suarez were 23/ 24 when they joined us, whereas Bakayoko only turned 21 earlier this year.
So you could say that his stats will have improved by the time he has another couple of seasons under his belt (wherever that may be) .
Doesn't mean I would necessarily go for him - I genuinely don't know.
And Navy, I have a sense that Salah may go this summer after all, sadly.
5.) 01 Aug 2024 15:30:56
Gakpo over Bakayoko, all day for me. And if it is to replace Salah, we can do a lot better than him. I wouldn't mind Kubo, personally. And should Sepp be sold, I would use that dough to get a DM.
6.) 01 Aug 2024 16:47:25
I like Gakpo, think he is quality.
7.) 01 Aug 2024 16:52:46
What makes you think salah will go this summer zed?
8.) 01 Aug 2024 16:55:42
Salah looked sharp for his goal last night.
I know it’s only pre season but he still took it exceptionally well.
9.) 01 Aug 2024 17:13:28
I’d say Bakayako, he’s definitely raw but I think there’s a good player in there. His decision making needs to improve and a bit one footed but he’s got good close control, great speed, strong, decent finish and good in the air.
But I do hope Sepp stays. And I also see Salah staying too.
10.) 01 Aug 2024 17:57:32
Gmil, I'm not sure that we would want to lose another player on a free.
Maybe I'm reading too much into it - maybe he has already signed an extension and the club are waiting to announce it, but I really don't like us losing out on lots of potential transfer fees (to reinvest) year after year.
I think if the Saudi's come back with £80m+ and Salah is amenable, I think we may take it.
11.) 01 Aug 2024 18:17:32
I never really get the fans worrying about losing transfer fees. I’ve never lost a wink of sleep over transfer fees or wages.
If a player moves on a free and the club haven’t tried to sell that player previously or they give someone big wages then that means they are comfortable with the financial side so why should we as fans worry.
As fans not a single thing changes for us financially when we sell a Coutinho for 140 mill, buy a Vvd for 75 mill or put a Salah on 350k a week or when we announce a new record sponsorship deal.
12.) 01 Aug 2024 19:06:46
Sorry JK but of course the transfer fee matters, especially for a club where the owners don't put in their own money. If we had got say £90 million for Coutinho do you think we would have been able to buy both VVD and Alisson or just VVD. If we hadn't signed Alisson would we have become Premier League winners and European champions?
13.) 01 Aug 2024 19:30:10
Thunderbird I 100% agree with everything you’ve said mate.
I said it doesn’t matter to fans. If the club are happy for Vvd and Salah to run their contracts down then it means they can afford to do it.
14.) 01 Aug 2024 20:36:58
Our it means we can't afford to (or don't want to) spend the money on their wages. Especially given their age.
No one likes leaving money on the table which is why fans want to see their club squeeze the most they can out of the players.
We are all too quick to complain about tickets prices, TV subscriptions, etc and less money in the coffers can easily mean a higher increase elsewhere.
15.) 01 Aug 2024 21:06:48
Brommers the club have saved 8 mill on Klopps wages, 12 mill on Thiago wages and 6 mill on Matip wages. Plus also over 100 mill for the upcoming season tv money.
What fans have from that ithai coming season is increase in ticket prices, increase in tv subscription and streaming costs and increase in club shop.
Please tell me again how the club squeezing money out of the players is for the fans.
16.) 01 Aug 2024 21:26:17
Have we really saved 8 million on Klopp when we've had to pay for Slot's (albeit lower) wages?
The less money that comes in to the club means the less money that we can spend on better replacements. Thunderbird already used a great example with selling Coutinho. We need to sell players to buy better ones than we'd otherwise be able to afford.
17.) 01 Aug 2024 22:12:52
I feel like we are debating different things Bommers mate.
I totally agree with Thunderbird where he says the club sell players to buy players and I have no issues with that.
What I’m saying is it doesn’t matter how much the club buys players for or sells them or pays them a week it has no bearing on fans.
My point wealthier was the club appear to have saved a significant amount of money on wages plus the added income of the increased attendance and ticket prices and tv subscriptions have increased.
Ticket prices will always go up because they only affect about 1% of the worldwide fan base. And if they can no longer afford to buy the tickets then there’s another queue of 60 thousand people who will.
18.) 01 Aug 2024 22:36:05
People are really caught up in the idea that we can't let a player leave for free! Mbappe, Messi, Lewandowski, Alaba, Zlatan all moved on a bosman at some point and still at their peak!
For me, letting Mo leave for free next season is less harmful than selling him now and spending that money on an unknown quantity.
In this first season under Slot I would much rather have Mo here as much for his presence and professionalism than to see all that experience walk out of the door. And if it's for free, then so be it. Despite no transfer fee, we recoup the salary. same applies to VVD as well.
19.) 02 Aug 2024 00:44:00
Faith, Salah and VVD will pay back their salaries if they leave on a free? Doesn’t seem likely and don’t see whoever signs them on a free to pay Liverpool their salaries for this year for Liverpool to recoup the money ?.
20.) 02 Aug 2024 00:48:16
Interesting point @Faith, I’ve wondered about the fuss with free transfers too.
For instance, VVD will be 34 when his contract is up. He will have / has given us the peak years of his career. He was an integral part of a world class club side and will have helped to generate considerable interest in (potential) sponsors for the club and it’s revenue streams. t 34 we are not going to expect a lot of money, even if he was still on contract for another couple of years. Surely the club will have factored this in when they offer a contract (and note it is the club doing the offering) .
The club can, of course, chose to try and sell a player before his contract is up, and whilst a player may not want to leave there are ways in which a club might exert pressure for the player to leave.
I have to say if the club are happy for players to tun down 5heir contract then I don’t see an issue.
21.) 02 Aug 2024 11:41:08
If players want to leave on a free then there is absolutely nothing under the sun that anyone can do about that. As @Faith said, free transfers happens all the time. If Mbappe can go on a free then, why can VVD or Ali or Salah go on a free? What rule says they can't do that? I think people are putting standards on things that people do all the time as a "no-no" for LFC. Just so y"all know, we ain't that special.
12 Jul 2024 15:48:35
Well done to LFC and Jurgen in adding him as the honorary President of the LFC Foundation.
Just confirms how much of an impression we make on people that former managers like Jurgen and Rafa (for example) want to stay connected with the Liverpool community.
YNWA Jurgen.
1.) 12 Jul 2024 16:20:49
I don't know which article you read Zed, but the one I read named him as both President and Ambassador, in the same article. I guess any dork can be a journalist nowadays. ?.
08 Sep 2024 20:58:41
Actually, gentlemen's toilet activities notwithstanding, the article in question that I have seen on a few clickbait sites IS headlined "Salah signs 2 year extension" but then goes on to explain what an ideal September would look like for Liverpool, not any facts of a concluded deal!
30 Aug 2024 21:56:24
It’s all about the romance for the Eds - roaring fires and bunches of flowers.
28 Aug 2024 22:31:55
He lost weight, learned Italian and now goes by the name “Fabrizio”.
28 Aug 2024 20:21:57
Ed002, good on you for admitting to your omnipotence. Many men wouldn’t be as brave ❤️.
28 Aug 2024 20:20:45
Ed002 are you going to credit the fat kid from Bolton as your primary source, or are you going to leave it as ‘Twitter’?
{Ed002's Note - What has happened t the FKFB?}
09 Sep 2024 23:52:40
Semi, FYi, Houllier bought Kirkland. Kirkland and Dudek signed at the same time (same day IiRC) which was a bit odd!
09 Sep 2024 10:22:58
Willy.
That's my attempt at humour on a public forum - hopefully plenty of people agree with me!
06 Sep 2024 09:40:24
Josef Bican's family may have an issue with us putting him in the U21s, The Southern Red, especially as he'd be 111 years old if he was still alive today.
04 Sep 2024 00:31:36
Certainly more of a jam than a pickle, Flash.
Or are you taking the pith?
27 Aug 2024 10:51:46
Kit, this isn’t FIFA, the players have an opinion too and by all accounts SVDB wanted to move for regular football (not on the subs bench) .
Or are you in favour of slavery?