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03 May 2020 13:36:17
Good day Ed and Reds.
BBC Sport are running an article that clubs opposed to 'Project Restart' are prepared to play at neutral venues if the threat of relegation is lifted.
If this is correct, this seems telling for me.
It sort of feels as if the multitude of clubs that have been poor all season are not prepared to accept their failings and are almost using the current situation to avoid the drop? They seem to be dictating what may happen next?
What's the point of restarting if the season's conclusion can't be reached?
Have you any take on this Ed002 please? (Presuming it did start again - a rather large presumption too) .

The Juicer

{Ed002's Note - Although much of Friday was spent discussiong neutral venues the idea regarding relegation has not been discussed by the PL. There is no plan as to how the season will be concluded at this time. Everything may well be much clearer in one week.}


1.) 04 May 2020 08:14:53
I thought the same to an extent.

All clubs will be playing in neutral venues, all will be in the same boat.

If the "integrity of the league can't be maintained" then what's the point?

Perhaps it's to do with finances and honouring TV contracts - I don't pretend to know that's what it is.

Everyone looking out for their own interests. Understandably.

{Ed002's Note - The arguement is based on loss of home advantage - and that is proving to be consideration for a number of sides (including two of the top six). It is unrelated to money of TV contracts. But many clubs are not concerned about their own interests only.}


2.) 04 May 2020 19:28:30
Ed002 does the home advantage thing not kind of become irrelevant with the exclusion of fans.

{Ed002's Note - A decent number of clubs don’t think so.}


 

 

09 Jan 2019 05:59:14
Media speculation today that Comacho could move on to Sporting Lisbon in this window?
Is a subsequent move for a versatile right-sided player on the cards in January?
Suggestions?

The Juicer

1.) 09 Jan 2019 09:11:17
The loan is not strange but the length of time is, June 2020 and that is when his contract runs out according to Talksport. Looks like Camacho is going home.


2.) 09 Jan 2019 08:55:06
Pardon me for but are sporting lisbon and sporting CP the same club?

{Ed025's Note - yes mate..


3.) 09 Jan 2019 09:54:48
Is he getting a new contract or are we effectively releasing him?


4.) 09 Jan 2019 11:53:52
I would a assume he will sign a new contract before heading out!


 

 

15 Oct 2018 20:40:37
Is Mane injured whilst out on international duty as well now?
Broken thumb?

The Juicer

1.) 16 Oct 2018 13:06:23
Surely he could play with a broken thumb?


2.) 16 Oct 2018 16:55:37
He has no chance of being fit for a game of Subuteo anyway.


3.) 16 Oct 2018 18:29:00
The thumbs up/ down response to this seems a little insensitive to be honest.


 

 

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1.) 20 Jun 2015 23:39:35
I wouldn't rule out the illuminati.


 

 

31 Jan 2014 11:36:22
The Guardian (no less) reporting that the redevelopment plans are moving forward apace.
Fingers crossed, there could be real progress this year, it all looks good to go if and when the demolition is done.
Only two owners, of four houses, still holding out.
Is that the two buy-to-let landlords that were supposedly going to sue the Council / LFC?
Maybe, just maybe, there will be spades in the ground before 2014 is out?

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03 Aug 2020 22:25:12
I really don't see how Thiago is a possible Wijnaldum replacement, they're not the same type of players at all?
Gini is the ultimate midfield workhorse, and I don't mean that unkindly in any sense.
I'd be gutted to see Wijnaldum leave, I've always been a supporter of what he brings.
But Thiago as a direct replacement is not one I see?

It wouldn't surprise me to see Liverpool going with Thiago and Fabinho together, sitting in a deeper two in some games. I said earlier, the recent Chelsea and City games were wide open, it was crazy the amount of space they had. City punished us, Chelsea not quite.

4-3-3 against certain sides is fraught with risk now, football never stays the same, and what worked two seasons ago is not guaranteed to do so next term.
We'll see. I hope Gini stays and Thiago joins. One or the other seems strange to me.

The Juicer

1.) 04 Aug 2020 03:39:00
Gini has never been my most favourite player, but the guy is always fit, always gives a 7 out of 10 at worst.

If it was between one or the other I personally would rather keep Gini.

Thiago although a good player, I see many drawbacks to the move. Age, fee, wages, injury record, style of play potentially not fitting our blue print.

Since I heard the rumour it has struck me as a slightly odd one, but if Klopp decides he's his man I'll get onboard.


2.) 04 Aug 2020 07:20:31
Thiago is off to PSG so this is all irrelevant really.


3.) 04 Aug 2020 09:09:28
Saw a stat on ESPN that said that Wij has recorded no assists for the 2 consecutive season, 72 appearances. I know the role he plays pressing extra but hendo does the same and gets assists. So does Fabinho sitting deep.

I’m not saying I’d like Wij to leave but there’s obviously something he’s not bringing at the moment.


4.) 04 Aug 2020 10:54:05
It’s not all about the assists he gets, he keeps the ball, he moves it around to others and he presses to win back possession. Stats are only useful if you consider the broader context of them, how many times did we score as the result of work that he had put in that resulted in the ball ending up with Robertson or TAA? That’s a more critical analysis that Klopp looks at.


5.) 04 Aug 2020 11:42:42
Hadn't seen that 6 times, I'm hoping Gini can put pen to paper anyway.


6.) 04 Aug 2020 13:02:14
6times and what if the club think they can get a player that does both?


7.) 04 Aug 2020 14:12:37
You do one you sacrifice the other jodz mate. And gini has sacrificed his game FOR LIVERPOOL Fc. If you think he's no good going forward, go argue with all those managers (including Dutch manager) that played him as an attacking mid. Six times is (again) abs bang on. You need to look at the broader context. I'd say go and look at our win rate with him or without him but we always win so that's not so useful.

All you néed to know is - in the big games it's Hendo fabhino and wjinaldum. Before fab signed it was Hendo gini and milner. Now why is that? Because he is one of our best midfielders. I have him above keita and the ox but that's just my opinion. Now I don't know as much about thiago as some. My opinion comes purely from looking at gini. Not at both of them. He's a Liverpool player, we have been very successful with him in our team and I'm loath to see him go, if indeed that happens. If I had to choose from bedding in a new player, who is on the downward arc of his career (nearly) and has a poor injury record, or keeping a player who has been hugely integral in our success, it's an easy choice. Very easy. This has come about, not because klopp wants a better player than gini, but because gini hasn't signed a contract.

Our midfield goes up against teams who have (apparently) better players in midfield and we nearly always blow them out of the water. Utd, Chelsea, psg, roma, Barcelona, city, oh, and bayern Munich, the list goes on. What's that saying about being stronger than the sum of our parts?


8.) 04 Aug 2020 15:37:49
Spot on, Robbie. People should go and watch the post game on Sky after the City game at Anfield where you can watch Jose, Souness, Keane and Kompany, rave about our midfield and esp. Gini after our midfield "yes with the inferior) Gini in it) dominated City; Yeah, I guess all these guys are mugs too and can't recognize a stud midfielder like Gini when they see one.

As for the assists stat, miss me with all that stuff cos that is not his job fundamentally. His job is what Klopp wants him to do at that specific time and he does it very well.


 

 

03 Aug 2020 09:33:37
Good morning Reds and Eds.
Ed001, following on from your analysis of our midfield dynamic yesterday, where do you see Thiago Alcantara in this please?
More talk of Liverpool interest in him today. He's played a variety of roles in his midfield career to date, do you see this versatility of use to Klopp?
Or perhaps a formation change in the offing, on occasion at least?
Cheers.

The Juicer

{Ed001's Note - he can cover both the more forward position and the Fabinho position and that is the main key to the interest imo. We don't have a proper alternative to Fabinho right now, so Thiago would give us that, as well as being more options in the carrilero role.}


1.) 03 Aug 2020 10:08:28
Thanks, I’d agree with that.
I wonder to what degree two post-lockdown games are on the management’s minds, I’m talking of City away and Chelsea home?
Lots of space found by the respective opposition in each game, though both could have gone either way results-wise.
Hmm, Thiago is an interesting one, I’m beginning to think it may happen too.
A Lallana upgrade in effect perhaps.


2.) 03 Aug 2020 12:13:06
Nice analysis Ed1, but surely the signing of Thiago would mean the departure of another player right?
He’d demand a high salary and playing time wouldn’t he? Also wouldn’t it mean Curtis may not see the XI as much?

Would a consequence of this transfer mean that Milner would provide more cover for the wing backs and a back-up left back would not be signed? Seems like the trabsfer funds are short, so what is your realistic and hopeful prediction of the incomings and outgoings? Maybe just the respective positions and not players!

Cheers!

{Ed001's Note - I have already said that my belief is that Thiago is of interest to replace Gini, who has yet to sign a new contract, so needs to sign quickly or be sold. I would think it would more mean that Ox will have to play more often further forward and Millie will end up covering left-back. It does mean difficult decisions to be made, but I would expect Jones to still get game time next season.}


3.) 03 Aug 2020 16:42:39
If Wijnaldum is going to leave then I hope he makes it known sooner than later so that the club can both find a buyer for him and bring Thiago into the squad as soon as possible. The last thing we need is for Gini to be gone and then Thiago beginning to make starts post January after getting accustomed to the team and tactics.

Although I'm very happy with Gini and hope he stays, on paper it looks like we would be strengthening the position, at least from the creative aspect in midfield. No idea if Thiago is as good or better defensively.


 

 

20 Jul 2020 10:23:21
Not Liverpool related but why have Watford sacked Pearson?
Makes no sense, he's done a decent enough job in difficult circumstances?

The Juicer

1.) 20 Jul 2020 10:34:46
They have some decent players to finish a lot higher than where they are today! They could lose the next two and get related.


2.) 20 Jul 2020 10:55:37
Watford go through managers quite frequently, no real surprise he's gone, just quite odd timing unless they have a quick fix in place already. What's more baffling is the Huddersfield manager getting sacked as soon as he secured safety, that was pretty brutal.


3.) 20 Jul 2020 11:05:06
I'm not his biggest fan, but to sack him with two games remaining after he dragged them from almost relegation certs to above the relegation zone with a decent chance of staying up? That's pretty brutal.


4.) 20 Jul 2020 11:10:21
I hear he had a bust up with the owners after the west ham match.


5.) 20 Jul 2020 11:12:30
“but to sack him with two games remaining after he dragged them from almost relegation certs to above the relegation zone“

Wrong. They had a brilliant first half of the season and fell apart in the second! He dragged them to a relegation fight which they shouldn’t have.

{Ed001's Note - that's not true, he took them over because they were in a relegation battle. They were bottom of the table most of the first half of the season! He took over before their match against us and they were bottom. They beat us and Man Utd to climb off the bottom and haven't been back since.}


6.) 20 Jul 2020 11:41:49
Harry is back with his boundless knowledge guys 🤣

Watford spent most of the season routed to the bottom of the table hence they sacked Gracia after less than 10 games and then sacked Sanchez Flores after around 10 games also.

Pearson did a sterling job to drag them out of that fight and I think had it not been for a 4 month break due to C.V., they’d of continued their good form and been well out of this scrap.


7.) 20 Jul 2020 12:09:36
@Hollywood Hogan (or is it Harry? ) :

Watford appointed Nigel Pearson on December 6th. Watford were BOTTOM of the table when they appointed him. They had won ONE league game, drawn five and lost NINE. They were SEVEN points behind Southampton in 17th. They lost 8-0 to Man City. Their only league win was against Norwich. They were out of the League Cup, losing to Everton in the last 16s.

But yes, they were having a stellar season which Pearson sabotaged, right?


8.) 20 Jul 2020 12:24:35
Harry based on your post (and the upteenth username) about Watford having a brilliant first half of the season, I can sufficiently say without question, that you don't actually watch PL games hence, your post comes from a position of complete ignorance.

Oh n btw, Watford will be at their 4th manager should one be hired to manage the next two games. You're welcome.


9.) 20 Jul 2020 12:25:30
By that logic Steve Bruce should get the manager of the year award! Isn't it shaq?


10.) 20 Jul 2020 12:40:39
Is Hollywood Hogan serious?! Did you not see them under Gracia and Flores?


11.) 20 Jul 2020 13:00:29
I would now hope the Cherries stay up and Solanke suddenly finds form and bangs in a hat-trick against Everton and West Ham beat Watford 2-0 with the last goal coming in stoppage time from the penalty spot to spark Troy Deeney rumors to LFC, sorry Ed's back on the wacky backy!


12.) 20 Jul 2020 13:06:21
Bledd85, of course he didn't see Watford under Garcia and Flores. Harry was too busy watching Naby Keita play left wing back for LFC with Robbo switching into midfield.


13.) 20 Jul 2020 14:14:51
Okay okay! Relax guys. Don’t need to make a meal out of it. Watford should be higher up the table and not involve in a relegation battle. And that must be the reason to sack the manager. It’s not a new thing in football.


14.) 20 Jul 2020 14:29:24
Pearson is generally a bit of an arse and as cut throat as the watford owners have been in the past, i’d probably be inclined to believe they had a good reason to sack him based on his character, especially being 2 games from the end.


15.) 20 Jul 2020 17:15:13
Had a bust up with Gino Pozzo. They did not agree with his tactics. Did well to turn things around for them. Nobody in their position at the time Pearson took over stayed up.


16.) 21 Jul 2020 02:28:03
Very odd time to sack him. I thought he did a good job there. And yes, they were rock bottom when he took over and everyone had em as dead certs to go down. Now they have a fighting chance of staying up. That's a good job right?


 

 

15 Jul 2020 21:05:40
We've murdered Arsenal 1-2 so far!

The Juicer

1.) 15 Jul 2020 21:08:26
Are backline all of a sudden have forgotten how defend or even pass the ball! Absolute rubbish! Arsenal didn’t even look like scoring until we gave them two assists!


2.) 15 Jul 2020 22:00:09
trying too hard now but its just not going to happen,
still 3 defeats over the season is very good,
another attack gone wide, might as well blow the whistle .


3.) 15 Jul 2020 22:11:42
I’d rather lose to Chelsea if it means Utd don’t finish in top 4.


4.) 15 Jul 2020 22:22:38
I'd rather beat Chelsea because until such a time as I see United play well for more than 3 months at a time, they're irrelevant.


5.) 15 Jul 2020 22:35:27
Signing better players by being in champions league is relevant to me.


6.) 15 Jul 2020 23:42:13
BigPoppa you said it yourself? Criticise our defending while pointing out arsenal have been unable to create a chance. Yes we made 2 terrible individual errors but the fact you acknowledge arsenal didn't get a sniff otherwise is actually an indication of a controlled defensive display. 2 costly misplaced passes in 90mins can't be used solely to analyse the entire defensive performance.


 

 

14 Jul 2020 17:57:25
I've been interested to read of Mourinho's and Klopp's comments today on Manchester City's FFP decision.
The lack of cooperation which City were fined for sets a dangerous precedent in my view.
Should a lack of cooperation be a strict liability offence?
Otherwise we can have everyone doing what they want, not cooperating and then getting a paltry fine after the process has been frustrated?

The Juicer

{Ed002's Note - You might want to look closer to home for such behaviour.}


1.) 14 Jul 2020 18:52:41
Ed2, why can't you enter into a conversation without turning it round to liverpool? Klopp and Mourinho clearly have an opinion and I would say they are probably better placed than most to have that opinion. I get it's the liverpool page but surely juicer can ask à question without you turning it round to try and make liverpool the bad guys again. Whilst I highly value your input it does become rather tiresome with the inability to answer such questions without bad mouthing liverpool. Cue your response calling me a certain.
Lol. Valid point I believe and in no way abusive. Just asking a question. Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - You really don't want to know.}


2.) 14 Jul 2020 18:45:41
Thought both Klopp and especially Jose were spot on with their comments. If we are going to have any chance of retaining the title ( to which I don’t see ) next season, we need City in the European competition.


3.) 14 Jul 2020 19:14:10
I'm sure I've seen somewhere that ed002 has said Liverpool have spent based on future income and taken a loan maybe? Where does that stand within ffp? Also ed I'm sure or someone has mentioned that UEFA and Fifa didn't cooperate under the same scrutiny yet they are trying to play judge and jury. Klopps and Mourinhos comments are just gamesmanship and planting seeds as always.

{Ed002's Note - You have misunderstood. I am not going to open it all up again.}


4.) 14 Jul 2020 19:28:17
I remember Ed002 explaining how we were very close to the wire ( a while ago ) with regards to FFP.


5.) 14 Jul 2020 19:45:15
Drogie, City have shown over the last 2 seasons that they can win the PL title while at the same time being in the CL even tho, they get done early on the the knockout stages. So I don't understand that part of your post. Also, why do you not see LFC winning the title next season, exactly? Cheers, man.


6.) 14 Jul 2020 19:54:14
We all know who needs to look closer to home with yet another lawsuit against them currently. Not brave enough to mention them huh! What a shock.


7.) 14 Jul 2020 20:33:52
Supareds, you have lost me?


8.) 14 Jul 2020 21:28:33
Never understood the need to deflect blame or fault myself. Seems like something school kids do. Look at the things you do wrong yourself, not think it's ok because someone else does it.


9.) 14 Jul 2020 21:36:08
Every cop is a criminal,
And all the sinners saints.


10.) 14 Jul 2020 22:10:26
sympathy for the devil. Interesting choice of song there Juicer, are Man city being run by lucifer?


11.) 15 Jul 2020 01:34:47
Wow, are people giving up on retaining the title already?! Don't base that om our current form. The boys got over the line. The effort put into getting there is crazy and mentally that is going to play a part. Plus they would all be on holiday now.

I wouldn't bet against us guys. Just coz other teams are making signings. This team is winning the league by over 20 points. I'd say we're okay for players. Gomez, milner and Williams can all fill in at lb. Lallana is leaving, and I'd like to thank him for his service. Been a great little player for Liverpool. It is a shame he can't say bye to the fans at anfield. I remember the season we first hit into the chzmpionx league finished 4th. lallana was brilliant that season. Scored some big goals, workd hard, doesn't complain. I really like him.


12.) 15 Jul 2020 07:27:09
It’s not about giving up on the title Robbie, it’s really difficult to retain too spot as we all know. City will strengthen so I’m not sure we will.


 

 

 

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30 Jul 2020 17:43:58
Why? Because everyone else has to cooperate with FFP and City showed a blatant disregard to the process and the investigation.
Wouldn’t release email trails, admitted to a breach of FFP after the time barred period, and left UEFA with little option but to charge them.
As CAS concluded, UEFA did follow due process and were correct to take the action.

The Juicer

{Ed025's Note - it all seems a bit petty to me juicer, i never heard you calling for liverpools head when they were tapping up players which is against the rules mate, people who live in glass houses and all that..


 

 

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30 Jul 2020 17:29:38
I suggest that you read David Conn’s article in The Guardian about the City case at the CAS. There was an infraction of FFP that was time barred and Man City did not cooperate with the investigation properly.

The Juicer

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27 Jul 2020 22:45:37
Seen a snippet from an interview with Lijnders where he talks about ‘unpredictability to solve problems’ next season.
Whether this manifests itself in unexpected signings and / or tactical changes, formations etc we will see.
But it seems clear that things will change to some degree.

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27 Jul 2020 17:23:54
I really don’t see Klopp getting rid of Wijnaldum.

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19 Jul 2020 15:06:24
Ed001 reckons if we really want someone, we’ll get him.
I’m inclined to agree though whether this player is he, I don’t know.

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10 Aug 2020 02:29:29
I fancy Bayern Munich.

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09 Aug 2020 20:59:44
I like him too.
I fear about that hamstring injury though, same with Pulisic.
Once they go in that manner, they become recurring problems for the rest of their careers.

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06 Aug 2020 22:17:16
At least we’re not in the awful position that Arsenal have found / put themselves in, making staff redundant whilst ludicrously large transfer fees and players’ wages are being paid and considered.
I really don’t get that at all.
Say what you like about fan groups like SoS at Liverpool but, I feel, they represent the supporters’ voice very well and very forcefully when required.

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03 Aug 2020 10:08:28
Thanks, I’d agree with that.
I wonder to what degree two post-lockdown games are on the management’s minds, I’m talking of City away and Chelsea home?
Lots of space found by the respective opposition in each game, though both could have gone either way results-wise.
Hmm, Thiago is an interesting one, I’m beginning to think it may happen too.
A Lallana upgrade in effect perhaps.

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02 Aug 2020 11:57:18
Great answer Ed.
The speed of the back four, and in particular the two CBs, is absolutely crucial to this system too, both for the press and the recovery.
It’s great to watch, I love watching Liverpool.
Can’t wait to play Leeds next season, be so interesting.

The Juicer

{Ed001's Note - yes mate spot on, it allows for the high line needed to play a press.}