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03 May 2020 13:36:17
Good day Ed and Reds.
BBC Sport are running an article that clubs opposed to 'Project Restart' are prepared to play at neutral venues if the threat of relegation is lifted.
If this is correct, this seems telling for me.
It sort of feels as if the multitude of clubs that have been poor all season are not prepared to accept their failings and are almost using the current situation to avoid the drop? They seem to be dictating what may happen next?
What's the point of restarting if the season's conclusion can't be reached?
Have you any take on this Ed002 please? (Presuming it did start again - a rather large presumption too) .

The Juicer

{Ed002's Note - Although much of Friday was spent discussiong neutral venues the idea regarding relegation has not been discussed by the PL. There is no plan as to how the season will be concluded at this time. Everything may well be much clearer in one week.}


1.) 04 May 2020 08:14:53
I thought the same to an extent.

All clubs will be playing in neutral venues, all will be in the same boat.

If the "integrity of the league can't be maintained" then what's the point?

Perhaps it's to do with finances and honouring TV contracts - I don't pretend to know that's what it is.

Everyone looking out for their own interests. Understandably.

{Ed002's Note - The arguement is based on loss of home advantage - and that is proving to be consideration for a number of sides (including two of the top six). It is unrelated to money of TV contracts. But many clubs are not concerned about their own interests only.}


2.) 04 May 2020 19:28:30
Ed002 does the home advantage thing not kind of become irrelevant with the exclusion of fans.

{Ed002's Note - A decent number of clubs don’t think so.}


 

 

09 Jan 2019 05:59:14
Media speculation today that Comacho could move on to Sporting Lisbon in this window?
Is a subsequent move for a versatile right-sided player on the cards in January?
Suggestions?

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1.) 09 Jan 2019 09:11:17
The loan is not strange but the length of time is, June 2020 and that is when his contract runs out according to Talksport. Looks like Camacho is going home.


2.) 09 Jan 2019 08:55:06
Pardon me for but are sporting lisbon and sporting CP the same club?

{Ed025's Note - yes mate..


3.) 09 Jan 2019 09:54:48
Is he getting a new contract or are we effectively releasing him?


4.) 09 Jan 2019 11:53:52
I would a assume he will sign a new contract before heading out!


 

 

15 Oct 2018 20:40:37
Is Mane injured whilst out on international duty as well now?
Broken thumb?

The Juicer

1.) 16 Oct 2018 13:06:23
Surely he could play with a broken thumb?


2.) 16 Oct 2018 16:55:37
He has no chance of being fit for a game of Subuteo anyway.


3.) 16 Oct 2018 18:29:00
The thumbs up/ down response to this seems a little insensitive to be honest.


 

 

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1.) 20 Jun 2015 23:39:35
I wouldn't rule out the illuminati.


 

 

31 Jan 2014 11:36:22
The Guardian (no less) reporting that the redevelopment plans are moving forward apace.
Fingers crossed, there could be real progress this year, it all looks good to go if and when the demolition is done.
Only two owners, of four houses, still holding out.
Is that the two buy-to-let landlords that were supposedly going to sue the Council / LFC?
Maybe, just maybe, there will be spades in the ground before 2014 is out?

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13 May 2020 12:13:01
An article in The Times by Matthew Syed apparently about the management of risk and Project Restart. I've not read it fully (not a subscriber) but I did hear him talk about it on the radio earlier.
He's articulated some of what I posted a couple of days ago and I agree with him.
Things are very slowly re-starting and football should play its part in this process if at all possible.
I'm not sure about tales of packed public transport in London this morning, that doesn't sound good.
But, all being well, come June we see further progress and a diminished R rate of the virus, and hopefully PL football is back on the cards.

The Juicer

1.) 13 May 2020 15:26:43
Hopefully it is safe enough Juicer.

I don't thinkg it's football restarting behind closed doors that is going to lead in the R increasing. The packed London underground and public transport will have much more impact.

Difficult situation.


2.) 13 May 2020 15:55:01
My 2nd job is as a response steward at EFC (the money is too good to turn down so please don't judge me 😄) anyways they sent a text out to asking all stweatds what mode of transport we use to attend games and they wanted the replies by midday tomorrow so restarting the season looks more and more likely.


3.) 13 May 2020 16:57:47
I heard the interview on the radio too Juicer and what he said made a lot of sense. One point I thought was very relevant was what should footballers be any different? Just because they are “ footballers” I think he went on to say if they didn’t want to play then maybe they should look at another job because for all we know, we may not have a vaccine for a long time. What are clubs supposed to do, keep paying them?

If they don’t play them they don’t get paid.


4.) 13 May 2020 18:56:38
Drogie it is ironic that many of the key workers in this crisis are those who society, or the Govt., had come to seriously undervalue. Shop staff, carers, cleaners, refuse workers etc. It was once the case that these people had decent pension plans and a solid job. Then came the age of zero hour contracts, privatisation, agency staff and the like and their societal benefits were removed in large part.
Perhaps society can reflect on this when better times return?
Footballers have a risk to face, as does everyone. All we can do is to try to reduce that risk as much as possible. For everyone.


 

 

21 Apr 2020 21:08:33
I wonder if all our readers and commenters could perhaps show our gratitude for continued great reading and craic on the sites by giving a virtual clapping for the Eds?
Many many thanks all of you. Your work is a real positive in these difficult times.
👏👏👏.

The Juicer

1.) 21 Apr 2020 21:41:02
👏🏼 👏🏼👏🏼.

{Ed001's Note - well this is a first for me, I have not had the clap before....}


2.) 21 Apr 2020 22:11:55
Ed there is soooo much I could say to that mate but all I'll say is stay safe and mind yourself YNWA.

{Ed001's Note - oh Bazza I am disappointed in you resisting that opportunity.}


3.) 21 Apr 2020 22:36:15
I’ll have a look in the cupboard mate. May be something to clear it up from when I had it. I mean a mate!

{Ed001's Note - thanks mate!}


4.) 21 Apr 2020 22:39:00
Ed001, now you see the wisdom in not joining Ed025 in the city centre.

{Ed001's Note - very true. Good point that.}


5.) 21 Apr 2020 22:42:36
Lucky you 01!

{Ed001's Note - is that lucky or just lack of luck leading to opportunity to catch it??}


6.) 22 Apr 2020 08:24:00
I got the slow clap once, oh the shame!


 

 

21 Apr 2020 18:36:35
A question for Ed025 if he's about,
Hope you're well Ed.
What do you make of Tony Bellew's comment that Liverpool deserve to be handed the PL title?
Far-sighted genius or taken one punch too many?
😀
Stay safe all.

The Juicer

{Ed025's Note - i have not spoken to tony for a while juicer but on this one i believe hes right, hopefully they will play the season out but if not then it would be only fair to award them the title, plus it will give us blues a bit of ammo so we san tell them they only won it by default :), im doing ok thanks but being very careful as im high risk, i hope you and your family are ok and staying safe mate..


1.) 21 Apr 2020 20:55:06
Hi risk!

Keep safe 25 mate!

{Ed025's Note - i will do drogie mate...cheers


2.) 22 Apr 2020 22:17:03
The Premiership has to be won over 38 games . If Man Utd were in this position how many would ( truthfully now ) back handing Utd the League.


 

 

06 Apr 2020 18:44:50
Liverpool have apologised and reversed the furlough decision with their affected non-playing staff.
Thank goodness.
It shouldn't have happened but at least it's been quickly put right.

The Juicer

{Ed025's Note - i agree juicer..


 

 

25 Feb 2020 09:22:05
The team last night equalled Shankly's 1972 side for the unbeaten at home run.
That 1972 run led to the league championship in the following year, not surprisingly.
Amongst it was a slightly fortuitous win against Stoke City in October 1972. They had a good side at the time, with the great Gordon Banks in goal and he repelled everything that Liverpool threw at him.
Stoke took the lead on the counter and it wasn't until midway in the 2nd half when Banks was bizarrely penalised for taking too many steps that the Reds equalised with an Emlyn Hughes rocket free kick.
Wave after wave of attacks followed, the Kop in full voice. In the last minute a huge deflection off a speculative Ian Callaghan shot beat Banks for a dramatic win.
Last night sort of reminded me of that, the good fortune mixed with relentless pressure, and the crowd desperate for a goal.
Thankfully it wasn't Gordon Banks in goal yesterday!
PS that was his last game before the car crash that blinded him in one eye.

The Juicer

1.) 25 Feb 2020 13:08:47
Nice one, Juicer. Good story.


2.) 25 Feb 2020 18:22:51
Nice one, Juicer.


 

 

 

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27 May 2020 09:54:57
I meant to say 4-2-1-3 but 4-2-3-1 works too lol.
Which sort of proves the point.

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27 May 2020 09:11:19
I really don’t see any of the current front 3 moving at this time RHLT.
More that Werner allows high class rotation or we can go 4-2-3-1 for instance with, say, Henderson and Fabinho sitting and Bobby withdrawn back to the advanced tip of the midfield and Werner up top. They could even interchange at times.
Two things Klopp is doing with the squad -
1. Strength in-depth and better selection choices
2. Tactical flexibility. 4-3-3 may be the stock selection still, but tweaks in-game and changes for certain opponents is becoming more of a theme.
I think Werner fits into both of the above scenarios.
I hope it happens.

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15 May 2020 08:16:12
He is claiming all of Orient’s goals now though.
But, yes, nice of him that move.

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27 Apr 2020 20:18:28
The Anfield Road expansion has been put back at least a year now because of the financial implications of the virus.

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24 Apr 2020 10:12:14
If he comes to England, it looks like a shoot-out between us and Chelsea as his destination. I like him and think he’d be a very good addition. It would give really strong options for the front three rotation with Minamino and Origi too.
Shaqiri will leave and it looks tough for Brewster also.

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25 May 2020 21:51:00
They reckoned on the radio that Klopp and Werner have been on Zoom or something together. If they didn’t talk about joining LFC though, and discussed the price of sauerkraut, that wouldn’t be tapping up?

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19 May 2020 21:51:31
If the incidence rate of the virus is less than 1% amongst the PL football squads, that’s less than the population at large.
I wonder about Troy Deeney’s statement, what’s he going to do? Stay isolated at home for the next x months until there’s a vaccine?
I’d argue that there could be a higher risk of contracting the virus from the general population rather than a select number of physically fit, affluent, tested and isolated footballers?
Of course it’s up to him and his club what he does. You can understand his
reluctance and fear but, as we’ve discussed, that risk can never be eliminated at present.

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17 May 2020 15:14:02
That’s the problem though isn’t it?
Is there a definitive answer, other than a vaccine.
I suppose we can only be guided by the prevailing circumstances in the country and even then there are regional variations, the R value (which in itself is a retrospective measure skewed by hospital and care homes figures) and the rules relating to the lockdown.
And those circumstances are dynamic and can change by the week.

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17 May 2020 14:28:24
As a matter of interest Ed001, at what point does it become safe to resume football?

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16 May 2020 15:31:55
Your opinion is valid Red89.
I’m of the opposite view, I’d like to see football restart if possible.
The debate is unclear at the moment.
Those against seem to be split between safety and relegation / financial concerns.
The safety protocols have to be robust and deliverable especially if the neutral grounds option is taken away.
Much of the argument seems to be being driven by those with most to lose, the clubs threatened with the drop.
They should not be allowed to control the process.
As for fans gathering, it’s not easy to control.
We’ve already seen the CPS criticise the Police for wrongful action, and the law is becoming even more greyer as time progresses and the lockdown is eased.
The situation come late June or in July may allow more movement by then too.

The Juicer