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03 May 2020 13:36:17
Good day Ed and Reds.
BBC Sport are running an article that clubs opposed to 'Project Restart' are prepared to play at neutral venues if the threat of relegation is lifted.
If this is correct, this seems telling for me.
It sort of feels as if the multitude of clubs that have been poor all season are not prepared to accept their failings and are almost using the current situation to avoid the drop? They seem to be dictating what may happen next?
What's the point of restarting if the season's conclusion can't be reached?
Have you any take on this Ed002 please? (Presuming it did start again - a rather large presumption too) .

The Juicer

{Ed002's Note - Although much of Friday was spent discussiong neutral venues the idea regarding relegation has not been discussed by the PL. There is no plan as to how the season will be concluded at this time. Everything may well be much clearer in one week.}

1.) 04 May 2020 08:14:53
I thought the same to an extent.

All clubs will be playing in neutral venues, all will be in the same boat.

If the "integrity of the league can't be maintained" then what's the point?

Perhaps it's to do with finances and honouring TV contracts - I don't pretend to know that's what it is.

Everyone looking out for their own interests. Understandably.

{Ed002's Note - The arguement is based on loss of home advantage - and that is proving to be consideration for a number of sides (including two of the top six). It is unrelated to money of TV contracts. But many clubs are not concerned about their own interests only.}

2.) 04 May 2020 19:28:30
Ed002 does the home advantage thing not kind of become irrelevant with the exclusion of fans.

{Ed002's Note - A decent number of clubs don’t think so.}



09 Jan 2019 05:59:14
Media speculation today that Comacho could move on to Sporting Lisbon in this window?
Is a subsequent move for a versatile right-sided player on the cards in January?

The Juicer

1.) 09 Jan 2019 09:11:17
The loan is not strange but the length of time is, June 2020 and that is when his contract runs out according to Talksport. Looks like Camacho is going home.

2.) 09 Jan 2019 08:55:06
Pardon me for but are sporting lisbon and sporting CP the same club?

{Ed025's Note - yes mate..

3.) 09 Jan 2019 09:54:48
Is he getting a new contract or are we effectively releasing him?

4.) 09 Jan 2019 11:53:52
I would a assume he will sign a new contract before heading out!



15 Oct 2018 20:40:37
Is Mane injured whilst out on international duty as well now?
Broken thumb?

The Juicer

1.) 16 Oct 2018 13:06:23
Surely he could play with a broken thumb?

2.) 16 Oct 2018 16:55:37
He has no chance of being fit for a game of Subuteo anyway.

3.) 16 Oct 2018 18:29:00
The thumbs up/ down response to this seems a little insensitive to be honest.



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1.) 20 Jun 2015 23:39:35
I wouldn't rule out the illuminati.



31 Jan 2014 11:36:22
The Guardian (no less) reporting that the redevelopment plans are moving forward apace.
Fingers crossed, there could be real progress this year, it all looks good to go if and when the demolition is done.
Only two owners, of four houses, still holding out.
Is that the two buy-to-let landlords that were supposedly going to sue the Council / LFC?
Maybe, just maybe, there will be spades in the ground before 2014 is out?

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01 Aug 2021 07:15:46
An interesting point raised yesterday regarding how statistics are used against a possible signing of Adama Traore and how this has turned many fans opinions against him. His stats do make poor reading.
I mentioned that back in '87 there was plenty of opposition amongst Liverpool fans to the signing of John Barnes.
While there was some racism behind some of this, there was also valid football reasoning.
Go back and look at his Watford record in the top flight. He missed an awful lot of matches firstly, did he only play 39 league games in 5 seasons?
And I've got 9 league goals scored during that time too.
He signed for Liverpool when he was 23 (almost 24) years old, and there's a whole manner of context to consider as well.
But if Klopp were interested in signing a young John Barnes for £50m or so today, I can guarantee there would be equally as many dissenting voices now as there was back then.

The Juicer

1.) 01 Aug 2021 07:41:10
I don't think signing a winger should be priority. One high quality midfielder and a young forward is what we should be looking at imo.

2.) 01 Aug 2021 07:48:35
Juicer, I am not sure why you think Barnes only played 39 games in five seasons, he actually played 197 league games in the five seasons before arriving at Anfield.

3.) 01 Aug 2021 08:27:31
I was looking at Transfermarket, it did seem a ridiculously low number which was why I questioned that.
But I was going to the matches home and away, and was living in Liverpool at the time, and subjectively the feeling about Barnes’ signing ranged from mild enthusiasm through scelticism to indifference and downright opposition.
Anyway, I’m still a Traore fan lol.

4.) 01 Aug 2021 09:06:41
It’s false equivalency to compare the two players. John Barnes averaged 10 goals a season and almost the same amount of assists. He did it whilst being the best winger playing in the first division. The man was coveted by the best teams in Europe (note how Milan thought they were buying Barnes but got Blissett) . Traore is nothing like that and doesn’t deserve to be mentioned in the same breathe. Whatever money we have shouldn’t be wasted on traore.

{Ed0666's Note - Barnes supplies the bullets for his team mates and was selfless he could easily have scored more goals mate

5.) 01 Aug 2021 09:14:43
Barnes didn't play much for 3 seasons, in the early 90s, apparently he was injured a lot under Souness? Then when Evans became manager and moved him to a midfield playmaker role he became fit again and average 35 games a season.
John Barnes was a legend, a great player for us, always looked assured and calm on the ball and his finishing was up there with John Walk.
As for not wanting him, I thought him for less than a million was great business.

6.) 01 Aug 2021 09:44:15
VVVV, just to be clear I’m not comparing the two players at all.
My point is about fans opinions.

7.) 01 Aug 2021 09:45:20
Barnes won the golden boot one season for LFC.

8.) 01 Aug 2021 12:15:23
Tim, he did his Achilles on England duty. One more reason I'm club not country.

I was there on his return after a lengthy lay off and there were probably 15000 in Anfield for a ressies game. Certainly the main stand was full, sho at least 12000.

9.) 01 Aug 2021 09:45:31
the fact that Barnes set up so many goals and still scored in double figures speaks volumes for how good he was. Truly world class. In my opinion he was every bit as good as Michael Laudrup, and that’s high praise because there was consistent end product to go with the skill and pace.



19 May 2021 11:54:25
Hi Ed/ s
Regarding the proposed European Super League, are you aware of any financial backing from Saudi Arabia or the Gulf states behind JP Morgan's front?
I also read that Infantino was more than ready to go long with the breakaway too?

The Juicer

{Ed002's Note - JPM is an investment and financial services supplier. The source of funds are money placed with them to be invested for profit and the source of investments is unknown. UEFA and FIFA are aware of and have hend some discussions with the group of "elite" sides that have been discussing a breakaway league for a number of years. THat group of clubs would involve UEFA, and perhaps FIFA in negotiating a way forward. There are other ideas that have been put forward as well as has been explained - with funding from China and the United States.}

1.) 19 May 2021 13:06:26
Thanks Ed002.
China has gone very quiet on the external sponsorship and funding of sports outside of their own country lately, so their interest would be a surprise.
USA, possibly.
The proposed Golf breakaway funding was to come from the Gulf, they’ve got the Fury / Joshua fight too. That would be my guess.
And if it were the Saudis, you’re not telling me the UAE weren’t aware?
In which case, no surprise either that PSG and the Qataris didn’t want to know?
I’m saying nothing of Man City in this, lol.

{Ed002's Note - There is a Chinese organisation still pestering the "elite" clubs. The American investor tries to get individual clubs on side with him and continues to talk with two English sides. It has nothing to do with boxing. The funding comes from the asset investment pot and not through any sovereign nation. There were three sides that turned down involvement when approached - PSG had not been approached at that time as one club had an issue involving them.}

2.) 19 May 2021 14:16:30
That two clubs are Liverpool and United. If its so, both are damaging their names more.



02 May 2021 17:27:24
Man Utd fans were fine when their commercial operations were blowing everyone out of the water in the 90s and it was funding record signings and the titles were rolling in.
They were loving it then, when everyone else couldn't compete.
As soon as the PL was devised it set us off down this path, away from the main source of revenue from attendances.
United were at the forefront of that shift, and now they've decided they don't like it because others have caught up and there are bigger players than them?
Don't act as if they are the saviours of the people's game, they're the ones that embraced this change in the first place.

The Juicer

1.) 02 May 2021 17:39:26
Spot on Juicer, you have nailed it nicely.

2.) 02 May 2021 17:43:23
Spot on they just aren’t the forefront anymore.

3.) 02 May 2021 17:51:44
To be fair to United fans they benefited from the success of their team when money was pouring into the newly founded premier league. This is entirely different and threatens the entire football pyramid and the very nature of football in this country. Many United fans have protested the glazers for years.

Violence and thuggery can never be condoned but let’s make sure that now our owners have supposedly called off the super league we don’t let them resurrect it in the coming years.

4.) 02 May 2021 18:05:55
Man Utd monetised the PL, 6times.
Their voracious commercial success spawned Sir John Hall, Jack Walker and Matthew Harding and suddenly the funding of the clubs had been taken away from the supporters.
I agree it was a perfect storm in that they had a good team and manager when the PL started, but they certainly rode that wave of monetisation.
We’re now reaping what they sowed in my view.

5.) 02 May 2021 19:34:41

That’s total bollocks, us United fans have never ever been happy with the Glaziers. It’s nothing to do with city or Chelsea spending £100m on players, it’s on our owners having no ambition to win, so long as we make too 4 abd the money rolls in, and the constant debt the club is put under with them taking millions out of the club every year. They don’t love football or United, just money.

{Ed0666's Note - with the greatest of respect I didn’t see you guys smashing youre stadium up and battering policemen up when you were winning premierships and Champions Leagues?

6.) 02 May 2021 20:06:50
Ed who are your referring to when you say “you guys”? Are you labelling all United fans yobs? Because then in the stadium are not a representation of our fan base, you will always get a handful of idiots. Are all Liverpool fans like them idiots who trashed peoples bars in Barcelona a few years ago when you were away in the CL?

{Ed0666's Note - let me correct my proclamation and Thankyou for alerting me to my mistake. I didn’t mean to tarnish all United fans as perpetrators of this fiasco I meant the ones that were there who caused the ruckus.



01 May 2021 12:46:55
Nathan Phillips out with a hamstring injury?
Wth, I've heard it all now.
Does he join our list of 'injury-prone'' CBs I wonder, with tongue-in-cheek?

The Juicer

1.) 01 May 2021 13:09:20
Juicer. Did they give a time frame? Not that it makes any difference with us. Remember when they said Thiago was a knock and he was then out for 3 months. I mentioned weeks ago rumours on Hendo being out longer were circulating and was told he would def be back playing middle to the end of April.

{Ed002's Note - All the club have said is he is not available for selection this weekend due to a slight strain.}

2.) 01 May 2021 13:16:57
All I know is that with that injury any possibility of getting any kind of result of against United has evaporated entirely. This is going to be horrific to watch and I wouldn’t be surprised if they stick four or five past us.

3.) 01 May 2021 14:32:43
6Times, so I guess should we get a positive result, you will come back today you got your prediction wrong then?

4.) 01 May 2021 14:07:29
We played Thursday night. You’ve had a week off, you’ve not turned terrible over night. I think you will minimum get a point against us.

5.) 01 May 2021 14:08:22
We have Davies as well. Yes I know he’s not played yet but he’s still an option.

6.) 01 May 2021 14:14:20
Was he not already out with a (hamstring) injury?

7.) 01 May 2021 15:26:55
Oli, we couldn’t beat Leeds or Newcastle, and regardless of Thursday cup involvement United have far more quality than either of those two, plus having Fabinho in defence rather than midfield is literally giving them the game, not that Klopp has much option given that playing Rhys Williams is liking giving them a two goal head start. Any midfield combination of what’s left lacks any defensive capability and we’re not scoring goals at the moment so it is pretty clear how this is going to go. Our best hope is that they play defensively and we get a boring nil nil.

8.) 01 May 2021 15:27:59
Stand United, we’ve not turned terrible over night, we’ve been terrible since we battered Palace.

9.) 01 May 2021 15:45:14
Phillips has been out for several weeks already IR, yes.
If he’s suffering hamstring problems at his age, having only played a relatively light schedule, that’s not a good sign for the future though?
I think Liverpool have to withdraw their defensive line back another 10 yards tomorrow and just contain / play on the counter.
Forget 4-3-3 in the circumstances.

10.) 01 May 2021 17:37:45
I’d play Williams.

11.) 01 May 2021 19:24:01
I’m guessing you’ve stuck money on a United win or forgotten how awful Williams was the last time he played against United, John.

Williams hasn’t got what it takes to be a top class footballer, he’s a league one/ league two defender at best.

Same as Connor Randall was, it’s just a fact of life that not everyone is going to make it.



28 Apr 2021 17:11:50
Not Lfc-related particularly unless Juergen Klopp is a keen biscuit-dunker like me.
In life's quieter moments, my mind drifts to random thoughts, and I was musing how much more easily and quickly the modern biscuit falls apart when dunked in a cuppa compared to days of yore.
I can console myself however that this is hopefully due to the decreased amount of hydrogenated fats in said biscuit.
In other words, less sticky but better for the old ticker.
Good news for dunkers of the U. K. 😄.

The Juicer

1.) 28 Apr 2021 17:40:56
I must say, having been a dunker in my youth, then not dunked for several years, but now returning to dunking, I have a couple of observations.

McVities Rich Tea still appear to be as dunkable as they always were, and are pretty reliable for at least 1 good dunk, and possibly 2 before breaking apart (2 dunks same half of biscuit, each half good for 2 dunks, so 4 dunks per biscuit in total) .

I've also become a fan of oat biscuits in my old age (Nairns, although other biscuit brands are available) . They are particularly good for dunking, especially the ginger ones that are an oval shape (rather than round) .

Dunk on, brother!

2.) 28 Apr 2021 19:11:58
How does one find the hobknob for such occasion? I have always been a particular fan, especially the chocolate swirl said buiscuit leaves behind


{Ed001's Note - the caramel chocolate digestive is good, as the caramel melts and holds the biccie together.}

3.) 28 Apr 2021 19:12:37
I agree and disagree Zeddicus - the rich tea is truly the best dunker, you just can't beat it for texture and ability to absorb all the goodness. However, it is also the one most fraught with danger as there is no reliable way to determine how much dunking is too much dunking. Yet, on the other hand, there is no greater thrill than the seconds between the undunking and trying to avoid dripping rich tea all over the sofa!

{Ed001's Note - rich tea fingers are the ideal dunker, as they fit in any cup. They are obviously designed to be dunked.}

4.) 28 Apr 2021 19:55:59
Dark chocolate Hob Nobs. The master buiscuit when it comes to dunkin’.

5.) 28 Apr 2021 20:24:47
I maybe in the minority but I've always prepared to dunk a chocolate bar than biscuits. My personal faves being a yorkie or a mint club.

6.) 28 Apr 2021 20:28:09
Good shout on the rich tea fingers, Ed001. I think that's why I like the Nairns oblong ginger biscuits - the perfect shape for dunking!

I might be considered a heathen here, but I never liked dunking chocolate biscuits. I love the melted chocolate loveliness, but can't stand the taste of the tea afterwards!

The answer may be to get 2 cups of tea at a time, one for dunking and one for drinking, but surely that's considered frivolous?!

{Ed001's Note - I have to do that anyway, as I like my tea quite milky and it goes cold too fast to get a good dunking session. Nothing worse than dunking in cold tea. Which is odd because dunking choccy biccies in cold milk is lovely.}

7.) 28 Apr 2021 20:41:41
How about dunking Maccies fries in a brew?

{Ed001's Note - kids do that with milkshakes. Vile. Nothing worse than those horrible Maccies fries. They are rank. Proper chip shop chips smothered, or dunked, in gravy are much better.}

8.) 28 Apr 2021 19:22:52
Can we get a rund won on all the Ed's preferred dunking biscuits? Maybe Ed002 could do a podcast on it to replace the sharkopod.

{Ed002's Note - I know what it is but I have never dunked a biscuit in my life.}

9.) 28 Apr 2021 20:54:27
As a utd fan I'm sorry for jumping in on your excellent thread but I had to recommend or maybe jog your memories on an excellent dunker you have missed out, my favourite, the 'malted milk'

10.) 28 Apr 2021 20:57:51
They were much better before maccies stopped putting salt on them. I do prefer chippy chips but dunked in KFC gravy.

11.) 28 Apr 2021 21:02:05
Rich tea and ginger nuts are the best dunkers for me.

12.) 28 Apr 2021 21:02:41
Pink wafers are nice in tea. Jaffa cakes just dissolve and it's a waste.

13.) 28 Apr 2021 20:59:03
Ed001 I 100% agree, but would like to chuck curry sauce into the mix as well.

{Ed001's Note - I can take or leave that. Probably because you could get that anywhere, whereas when I moved around the country I found you could only get nice gravy in the north-west.}

14.) 28 Apr 2021 21:08:57
Ed001, I'm the same - milky tea and cold too fast. A mate of mine pointed out a USB cup warmer - like a mini hotplate!

I was really interested until I clocked that it cost £100!

I'll stick to my cold tea, thanks!

{Ed001's Note - I sometimes warm the milk, much easier.}

15.) 28 Apr 2021 22:41:34
Amateurs . its all about the cup! choose wisely. it should keep the tea at optimum drinking temperature.

16.) 28 Apr 2021 23:27:51
Sorry but no. Bite the ends off a penguin biscuit, dip it in, suck some tea up like a straw, then eat the entire tea soaked biscuit up in one.
That’s next level dunking right there. 💪🏼
Also, Maccies chicken nuggets dunked in vanilla milkshake. 👌.

{Ed0666's Note - who the fuc* puts a chicken nugget in milkshake and then has the audacity to put said nugget in ones mouth??? I’m sending over a shrink pronto! Vanilla milkshake you say Mikey???

17.) 29 Apr 2021 04:13:23
Mikey, that’s my wife’s favorite thing to do. Live in the US these days and when I make it down to Yonkers I hit the store and grab multiple packs of penguins for that exact trick.

18.) 29 Apr 2021 08:34:23
Good god man! Nuggets in a milkshake!?

I actually agree with our friendly manc, but with one upgrade, the chocolate malted milk! That gentlemen is the one!

19.) 29 Apr 2021 07:53:11
Ed0666 a lot of the teenagers now dunk fries in there milkshakes. absolutely disgusting.

{Ed0666's Note - this is what happens when parents try and become best friends with their kids

20.) 29 Apr 2021 15:21:29
Damn it. Not only are the red half of Manchester doing better than us in the league this year but the Manc poster above has the audacity to steam over here and claim the dunking crown with his Malted Milk offering.
How come noones suggested the humble custard cream? Douse them in a cup of sweetened PG Tips and the whole packet is under mortal threat within seconds.

21.) 29 Apr 2021 15:27:43
Jaffas must be dunked!

22.) 29 Apr 2021 19:29:05
Ed's you got to try the Tim Tam slam. You'll need to youtube it but my word, it's a revelation!

{Ed001's Note - I don't know what they are but not for me that. Still has to be better than the vileness of malted milks, hate those things!}

23.) 30 Apr 2021 09:26:05
HeyYouGuys, I tried dunking ginger nuts once but Ed Sheeran got cross and called the police.




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02 Jul 2021 11:12:56
Haha I love it. 🤣🤣
Can we not send Davey a spare set of Ed025’s dentures as a well-deserved consolation or something?

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28 Jun 2021 13:04:30
Philips is also limited in his passing ability and not quick, he does not fit in with our style of play at all.
The 4 remaining CBs are about the best in the PL as a collective in my view.
Phillips did well to stand in like he did but I have always felt it’s best all round that he moves on.

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09 Jun 2021 22:30:38
The Amsterdam Evening Chronicle is probably more up your street there MKS?

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07 Jun 2021 18:24:00
Liverpool lost in the order of £50 - 70 million during the initial lock down and around another £100m minimum last season from missing match day revenue etc.
These are serious shortfalls that probably mean perhaps 3 or 4 key new signings could not be added to the squad over that time?
The injury issues last season lead on from this situation; Klopp was clearly unhappy with his back-up and perhaps the signings that we missed out on would have played instead.
All told, do not underestimate the damage that CV has caused Liverpool.
It’s lost ready cash in hand and debt-serving funds that has gone.

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25 Apr 2021 10:51:32
I’m inclined to agree with you Ed002 on this, I can see the benefits and disadvantages on both sides .
I don’t necessarily want it to happen but I’d rather Liverpool were in than out if it does.

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04 Aug 2021 09:32:18
Wow this page has gone up several intellectual notches.
I admit I had to Google it though 🤣🤣.

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03 Aug 2021 13:52:34
He’d get rid when there was a replacement lined up Barry.
He was ruthless, yes, but not stupid.

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03 Aug 2021 11:56:02
Well why mention it then?
Don’t see the fascination with having a pop at him all the time, give the guy a break?

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01 Aug 2021 09:44:15
VVVV, just to be clear I’m not comparing the two players at all.
My point is about fans opinions.

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01 Aug 2021 08:27:31
I was looking at Transfermarket, it did seem a ridiculously low number which was why I questioned that.
But I was going to the matches home and away, and was living in Liverpool at the time, and subjectively the feeling about Barnes’ signing ranged from mild enthusiasm through scelticism to indifference and downright opposition.
Anyway, I’m still a Traore fan lol.

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