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29 Sep 2024 18:36:58
Ed001
Do you think its difficult to cultivate a killer instinct in forwards in modern football?
We have players like salah who are wingers who are expected to bag goals, we don't have the big frontmen of old (though i suppose clinical players like haaland could fit that profile) .
Point being, you have players like salah/ diaz being judged on their goals but most of the time i feel the anger from selfish decision making, either you should be targeting assists or goalscoring, but we seem to almost expect both nowadays!
{Ed001's Note - it is not that it is difficult to cultivate it, it is that modern head coaches want players to play a certain way.}
1.) 29 Sep 2024 21:33:48
I feel like you need to be at Haaland, Kane level of goal scoring to be that kind if player.
2.) 30 Sep 2024 05:03:18
Kane was, is, for ever shall be a glorified goal hanger. The overly self confident creature that lives under a bridge is also one dimensional and is achieving the amount of goals he scores by virtue of the team he plays in.
3.) 30 Sep 2024 08:02:05
I took two players to a pro club and the coach told me they are looking for lads at 15-16 to be around 6ft and can run 100 meters in 10.5 seconds and it doesn't matter if they are not great footballers they will teach them the skills.
My answer to him was that is an Olympic sprinter your looking for. Haaland fits that bill, mum sprinter dad footballer.
4.) 30 Sep 2024 12:26:34
Sorry WDW but that is nonsense about Kane. His link-up play for a striker is pretty good although his pressing isn't great. Sometimes you have to give credit where credit's due and I would say Kane has been consistently in the top 3 number 9s for the last decade.
11 Aug 2024 18:38:11
This second game is pretty dismal, but hope we're getting a good run out at least. nunez/ gakpo still don't look their value yet.
1.) 11 Aug 2024 19:12:32
It was definitely a hard watch, the players looked off the pace which is to be expected but I think Elliott showed his worth and put a marker down for the opening game! Jones is still debatable for me, he does appear to be more suited to Slots style of play than Klopps however he does tend to hang onto the ball for far too long and frequently gets caught on the ball. For me Curtis is currently at squad level and can come in and do a job but wouldn’t be in my starting 11.
2.) 11 Aug 2024 19:12:38
Nobody really put a case forward to start first game did they. I think the line up is pretty much nailed on now unless Trent still feels that little injury he got.
3.) 11 Aug 2024 19:35:43
Didn’t see the 2nd game but interested to hear on Nunez.
Was he receiving earlier balls to run in behind and were wingers getting to byelines for cut back crosses for him?
Appreciate it was only 1 game.
4.) 11 Aug 2024 20:02:35
Nunez didn’t play well at all he was getting the ball to feet and couldn’t make it stick and his passing when it did wasn’t great.
5.) 11 Aug 2024 20:06:29
Tough watch alright but though Bradley was very good again, bundle of energy and a bit more end product he could have got himself on the score sheet. Great option to have. Was impressed with Doak more than usual too, again end product wasn't and should have scored probably 2 but more promising. Outside of that konate looked assured and great to see Robbo get more minutes. Roll on next week!
6.) 11 Aug 2024 20:11:07
I think u have to keep in mind also that 2nd game was behind closed doors, no crowd no atmosphere. Only a pre season friendly but no doubt crowd will have effected the 1st game positively.
7.) 11 Aug 2024 20:13:15
Nunez was awful again jk yet watch everyone start defending him. We need Jota to stay fit all season he’s by and far away our best striker. Gakpo was poor again but was let down by Nunez and his lack of game intelligence. Both are treading thin ice I’d say.
8.) 11 Aug 2024 20:40:44
Isn't this Nunez 1st game of pre-season?
Knives are out already.
Going to be a long 3 weeks of this silly season.
9.) 11 Aug 2024 20:48:22
I don’t think they’re treading thin ice after 1 pre season game.
They’ve only just returned from their holiday and played their first game. Give them a chance to get up to speed first.
10.) 11 Aug 2024 21:18:31
Eds you must be tempted not to put some of these responses on here. Wait for a proper game before you start moaning about the players. I'm happy the whole squad got minutes in their legs and some lads a bit of confidence.
{Ed025's Note - it is what it is Lee, dont take any notice of friendlies mate ..
11.) 11 Aug 2024 23:28:59
Thank God for the second game - looked like we might not have anything to fret about and overthink after the first game. The matches were friendlies to prepare for the season. Good to see Robbo back on the pitch. Worth the second game in itself I’m not a Nunez fan but give the bloke a break. He’s only been back for about 15 minutes.
12.) 11 Aug 2024 19:49:28
Hmm, i suspect you're looking at the starting line up verses sevilla to start the season. Obviously slot wants a six but I feel that's the team he's going to go with.
13.) 11 Aug 2024 23:45:52
I didn't watch the second game but watched all the other pre-season games.
Team looked good but the running narrative from most fans was "it's only pre-season".
So, does that apply if a player doesn't look so good in pre-season?
14.) 12 Aug 2024 00:49:52
Whatever we think about Nunez and Gakpo, they've been here for two seasons and a season and a half, respectively.
I don't think anyone is judging them on one or a few pre season games.
They both need to step up from what they've shown so far.
15.) 12 Aug 2024 02:58:39
I thought with Slot coming in, everyone is beginning on a clean slate? So why should Nunez and Gakpo be judged on seasons past when Klopp, not Slot, was our manager?
16.) 12 Aug 2024 04:22:15
Relax the cracks lads it's pre season after the euros and Copa. New manager, new staff, new ways, new everything. Guaranteed that half of you negative doom merchants have never played a game in your lives.
17.) 12 Aug 2024 04:26:27
@Rigsby - but it really is only a pre-season friendly. Like I say I’m not th3 biggest fan of Nunez and, yes, he was off the pac3 today but 5h3 fella has been back less than a week.
18.) 12 Aug 2024 08:17:13
Ive got a feeling our forwards will score for fun this season.
Wouldn’t be surprised to see 1 or 2 of the midfield get double figures also.
19.) 12 Aug 2024 08:40:51
WDW, Walkon and Dracred, Nunez needs to step up from what he's done in the two seasons that he's been with us. The same goes for Gakpo and his season and a half. I'm not saying they won't and but it's a big season for both, especially Nunez.
Neither of them has nailed down a starting place but if they do and start to score and create goals in a winning side then their times under Klopp will soon be forgotten.
20.) 12 Aug 2024 12:48:51
It was a friendly when all said and done, you can’t take too much out of it, I mean, Andre Voronin looked good in pre season friendly matches and that did not work out well so you can’t really read much into either a supposed “world class” display or someone having a stinker.
21.) 12 Aug 2024 13:08:05
I think both have had good spells Rigsby and have shown us what they can do. Gakpo when he first joined and Nunez in the middle part of last season were very, very good.
I’d agree it’s a big season for both but if they can get the consistency then both are very good players and don’t deserve the grief they get.
It’s like some people expect every single player in the squad to be world beaters in every single game. It just doesn’t work like that.
22.) 12 Aug 2024 14:26:23
Agreed Viktor, glorified training matches really.
23.) 12 Aug 2024 22:18:31
Clearly, Nunez should have had the same level of fitness, match sharpness and bite in the game after only arriving from holiday 10 days ago.
05 Aug 2024 10:04:30
Hi Eds,
Bit of a general question about the club. I watched some of the fitness aspects for the boys who returned late on. Is fitness and the gym aspect all driven by the manager, or is this something that you generally leave to people like physio's etc?
I was thinking where we saw some drills I've not seen before on tour, boxing, footwork aspects etc!
Was wondering if that whole thing changes like the actual football would under new management!
{Ed001's Note - the head coach will set the general direction but the fitness coaches and physios will have a say.}
1.) 05 Aug 2024 10:51:03
thanks! was curious if it was entirely separate!
2.) 05 Aug 2024 11:19:59
If you’re talking about the boxing when they were in America, that doubled as a team builder. And why not when you’re in Rocky’s hometown!
07 Apr 2024 18:18:28
This isn't reactionary but what do we do with our forwards next season?
Hard to guess what system it will be considering we don't have much of an idea what manager is coming now alonso is out.
But we can probably guess Salah is gone, but what do we do with what's left?
Nunez - great player with some awful finishing
Gakpo - . won't say my honest opinion of him
Diaz - incredible dribbler but horrific finishing, basically a straight downgrade on what firmino used to be
Djota - Ups and down, inconsistent and clearly injury prone
Honestly have no idea what we end up with next year.
1.) 07 Apr 2024 18:59:38
This is going to sound critical but it’s not because I like him.
But is Nunez a great player?
I think he’s a player with a lot of potential but he also seems to be the player that is above any criticism.
2.) 07 Apr 2024 19:24:25
He was a great player before 3.30pm this afternoon, now he's sh! #e.
3.) 07 Apr 2024 20:08:39
Watch them all start coming back from injury now it’s too late. Ali, Jota, Trent etc. my finger will point in their direction for fault.
4.) 07 Apr 2024 20:26:32
Nunez has been shocking for weeks, a number 9 who can’t score. Salah has gone completely. if the Vaseline clown hadn’t dived 10 minutes before the penalty he would have missed it. Macca should be taking them. Both Nunez and Salah have let us down re a title challenge. We’re creating 20-30 attempts a game, they should be scoring much more. Jones and Gomez nor Gravenburch and Gakpo can get up to speed in those type of games quick enough to make an impact. Jones was doing his usual holding onto the ball for far too long. Joe has been awful for weeks now. Elliot was amazing and turned the game back in our favour. City will win all their games and the title. Klopp has done his best with the players at his disposal.
5.) 07 Apr 2024 22:10:17
Jude where in my post have I said he’s rubbish?
6.) 07 Apr 2024 21:27:38
You and I were on the chat earlier JC and Nunez certainly isn't beyond criticism on there. However, he's had 2 seasons with us now and I'm not convinced.
7.) 07 Apr 2024 21:28:50
I meant JK.
8.) 07 Apr 2024 22:37:19
Oh bless, WarMachine73, another one who piped up out of nowhere to start berrating players cos we did not win, whereas he was nowhere to be found all this time we were winning.
9.) 07 Apr 2024 23:26:53
Watching the game with friends n no one is convinced about Nunez . captain chaos says it all. works hard but very hit n miss .
10.) 08 Apr 2024 00:41:26
All depends on the new manager but I doubt he’ll have any loyalty to Nunez.
Love his passion, love his energy, he’s just technically average.
We need more quality up front.
21 Feb 2024 07:22:53
The fact we're top of the league and I still don't think we'll win it is mad.
Just insanity looking at our injuries. We'll have to play a full strength City, and a full strength united and spurs, with 5 or so 1st team players out. Plus the cup final this weekend. I really hope we get at least 1 silver ware for klopps last season
And how have Arsenal managed to avoid so many injuries this season, maybe we need to steal that medical team!
1.) 21 Feb 2024 07:49:53
I believe De Bruyne is carrying a hamstring injury. Both Gvardiol and Grealish are out. Hardly full strength but their second string is quality. As is ours.
Arsenal are missing Jesus, Zinchenko and Tomayisu.
Everyone is soldiering at this stage of the season.
2.) 21 Feb 2024 07:59:25
Arsenal city spurs and Utd have all had big players missing for lengthy periods. I’m sure they felt just has hard done by.
3.) 21 Feb 2024 08:05:13
I’d expect us to have a few players back by City, Utd and spurs.
From now until then those teams could also lose big players to injuries and it’s also possible we might get some back and lose others also.
Lots of working parts in play that we have zero control over.
4.) 21 Feb 2024 08:34:33
It’s not as bad as it appears. We only have 4 PL games before the break. We can field almost a first choice back 4 with plenty options from the bench. Plus Trent will be back before City. Nunez and Salah will be back for Forest so that gives us plenty of options up front. Dom and Trent should also be back for forest which means for the City game the only guaranteed starter missing is Allison.
5.) 21 Feb 2024 08:54:37
This is what Klopp gets paid the big bucks for and why we have such a deep squad including our academy boys.
All the clubs in top 6 have suffered key injuries, so we just have to deal with it.
6.) 21 Feb 2024 11:16:35
DeanW, why do you think we won't win it?
7.) 21 Feb 2024 15:31:26
It's quite interesting to see the debate about injuries, squad size and game priorities. So many diverse opinions.
From my own perspective, we went into the season a couple of senior players short - a DM and CB. Injuries to Alisson, Matip, Ibou, Thiago, Curtis and Jota were inevitable based on history. I was comfortable with one of Bradley or Ramsay deputising for Trent.
There have been a few good surprises.
1) Quansah has done an excellent job when called upon - negating my concerns about not buying a CB in the summer.
2) I never thought MacAllister could/ would play no6 as well as he has been doing.
3) I never thought Endo would be good enough to play in big Premier League games.
4) I didn't think Bradley was going to be able to show this level of performance already.
5) I didn't expect Curtis to become our best midfielder.
Shows us what do really know about anything!
On whether we have big or small squad. That depends entirely on what you think of the first team quality of the kids. We only registered a 20-man (25 is allowed) squad for the PL, with Gravenberch, Elliott, Bradley, Quansah, Doak, Gordon, Clark, McConnell etc not counting due to being u21.
Was it a conscious decision to rely on the youngsters as much or was it down to not being able to do enough deals in the summer? I don't know.
Once the season started, did they believe that this squad was capable enough to go deep into all four comps? I don't know.
But, here we are.
8.) 21 Feb 2024 16:24:13
To win it I think we need to stay infront.
I can’t see us dropping points and being able to recover from a deficit (because of the injuries) .
9.) 21 Feb 2024 18:34:55
And to think there used to be moans on here the squad was too big.
10.) 21 Feb 2024 20:27:15
Well this is part of why, if we drop points at home against luton then its gone 100%.
But you can't expect to have a 100% record for the rest of the season with constant injuries.
Look at our bench tonight, no forward options, no midfielders to come on.
Its noone's fault but i don't see us winning the league, not when City are officially sitting on 2 injuries, and arsenal 4, to our 11 (i think is the official stat tonight with darwin and salah out)
11.) 21 Feb 2024 21:34:44
Dean give yourself a jab to the ribs.
12.) 21 Feb 2024 21:36:48
Just wondering why Man Utd have been mentioned? Mid table fodder have no business at the top table. We have a squad that can cope with injuries thank God and Klopp as manager so no stress. Obviously we have had a squad of minus 1 ever since Thiago signed. got to be in the top ten worst ever signings, he’s broken more than a lotus Elise.
13.) 21 Feb 2024 23:56:53
Dean, that's your opinion and you are welcome to it. All Im going to say here is that you are using injuries to convince yourself that we won't win the title even after we smoked Luton tonight with 8 starters out and still you think we won't win. You act as if our injuries are long term which they are NOT.
Players will start coming back starting this weekend with Salah and Darwin (knowk on wood) and yet we are still top so this is just a temporary phase in the season, IMO. Unlike you, I take it one game at a time so I don't expect us to win all our games due to injuries BUT it seems to you that cos we can't do that, we won't win the title? Footie don't work that way, mate.
Now if you allow yourself to be convinced by negativity being pumped out by the media and rival fans then, that's all on you, mate. Our manager himself has said there are no excuses hence, he doesn't talk about injuries. The players don't do that either and they are delivering. Also, I would ask you to believe in the team the same way your manager does and the players believe in themselves BUT you have convinced yourself we won't win due to "temporary" injuries. Again, that's your cross to bear. The rest of us choose to make other decisions.
29 Aug 2024 11:11:31
Ed002, may I ask if there were any bids for him this summer? or will any interested parties just wait the year.
{Ed002's Note - Bids might arrive in the next couple of weeks but I suspect he would want to run down his contract.}
26 Aug 2024 22:12:27
Because Ali came out and said he wants to stay?
So clearly he would prefer to stay?
So my beef is signing someone that we don't need
Maybe it works out, but it seems odd to me.
26 Aug 2024 17:24:41
No why, we mean allison is a far better goalkeeper, who can play for another 3 or 4 years no problem. Plus he suits the system to a T, and has stated he wants to stay.
Also is he injury prone? as last season was the first time he missed a large chunk of games. from what i can tell, i see no reason to spend money on someone who we probably don't need for 2 or 3 years.
23 Aug 2024 09:31:28
FTR, you're just wrong.
your squad won't magically improve unless you can upgrade positions, unless you're world class in every position then you can and should reinforce in areas of weakness.
Yeah our midfield might be in a better position then last year as they've bedded in. But we currently have pretty obvious weaknesses, LB, LCB, Salah leaving in the next year, Trent going? VD going leaving us with some youngsters.
We get injuries and all we've done is offload, then we quite clearly will be in a real problem state.
I just can't believe people on here somehow acting like losing some fringe players somehow makes us have a better squad this year. There's a chance slot does some magic and fixes some of our weaknesses like our lack of clinical forwards (outside of djota who is injured constantly), but you can't act like that is some certain thing.
23 Aug 2024 08:13:25
Rabiot is far too expensive.
22 Sep 2024 17:43:47
I mean if we wanted Trent surely we would have given him a deal by now. Seems insane to run the contract down if you don't have an agreement in place. Surely other top teams would be trying to turn his head at this point.
22 Sep 2024 17:41:46
How is that relevant to OPs post?
21 Sep 2024 15:02:01
Feel like Gakpo is being overrated, even recently he still doesn't seem to actually offer a huge amount. He got a decent assist though the pass was a bit wild to szob. he doesn't seem to be that much of a threat.
17 Sep 2024 13:38:29
Makes me nervous for the rest of the season, you could imagine every team below the top 6 will be considering setting the low block.
I must admit i was getting carried away thinking slot was tactically far superior to Klopp with his quick changes that had seemed to help. Now I'm not sure and think we are going to have a bit of a rough season. especially with the sheer quantity of games we'll have. Any injuries and we're going to be screwed. Shame as its the season where you can come 2nd and maybe City get some points deducted!
26 Aug 2024 09:10:43
It's a good start, but its a long season! and we have played some of the weaker teams so far. Which is probably very good for us as it gives us more time to train
Some good passages of play in the second half, but yeah let's not get carried away yet.