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24 Oct 2019 08:30:06
I love Hendos energy, but he's not playing as good this season that's clear to see. Has the ox just took his position for now?


1.) 24 Oct 2019 10:42:36
Ffs 17 wins on the trot and 1 draw and the knives are out, hendo and gini will start against spurs,

2.) 24 Oct 2019 12:11:41
without the knives but don't you think Oxlade earned a starting spot?

3.) 24 Oct 2019 12:19:18
I don't think so yet FC8. It's reassuring to know that Ox and Keita can step in though. It really depends on the opposition and the matchups whether or not Keita or Ox will supplant Gini or Hendo.

4.) 24 Oct 2019 12:41:26
Ox might not be at a stage yet where he can handle a prolonged run of games. He has still only had about 180 minutes or so of competitive football since his injury.

Would much rather see him managed well in terms of recovery and hopefully be a big asset come the turn of the year.

Im sure the medical department already have their plan of how much game time he can take.

He definately does add something different than other players in the current squad. Needs a lot more games under his belt to be fully up to speed though.

Cant see him starting against spurs but id say a start in the arsenal game is nailed on.

5.) 24 Oct 2019 13:11:16
if we want to take another step this year and achieve the ultimate, it's essential that both oxlade-chamberlain and keita step their games up, become regulars in the midfield rotation, and provide a technical advantage that other players can't provide. we'll encounter a lot of different looks and strategies throughout the year, and it's important to have guys in the side that give us versatility to not only answer those challenges, but overcome them and throw things back at other squads that they themselves don't have answers for. ox having a strong game shouldn't lead to the suggestion that it's time for a "slumping" henderson to be replaced by him. we need them both, just as we need all of these guys, to continue to be part of a strong unit that is very difficult to be beaten by any side in the world on any day of the year.

6.) 24 Oct 2019 13:32:59
but how do you keep people happy on the bench if they just stay on the bench even if they perform? also i fail to see how 2 games in a row is a "prolonged run of games"

doing good coming off the bench or when playing with a rotated starting 11 should be rewarded with more gametime imo.

I like both Gini and Hendo but i really hope Ox and Keita gets more real chances, not just when rotating and 10minutes in the end of matches.

7.) 24 Oct 2019 14:02:42
> but how do you keep people happy on the bench if they just stay on the bench even if they perform?
Because they know its a long season with a lot of games and they will have their chances . Klopp decides which player to use pending fitness and opposition, yesterday Ox did very well because Genk gave him the time and space he needs, which is not easy in the PL, also if you watch back, he hardly pressed, which is needed for our game in the premier league.

8.) 24 Oct 2019 17:19:25
I hope starts to really kick on, he’s the one that gets into positions and receive the ball in offensive areas that are tight. This give us so much more from an attacking perspective.

9.) 24 Oct 2019 18:01:00
Ox that is 😂😂.

10.) 24 Oct 2019 18:44:57
It's not that black and white though. Ox opens our midfield up by being so offensive, whereas Hendo doesn't open up the opposition. catch 22 formation?

11.) 24 Oct 2019 19:04:32
We really have a fascinating fetish for wanting to drop Hendo out of the team. Apart possibly from Matip, I don't think any player's position is talked about as much. Yet he keeps coming back and justifying his place.

That said, Ox deserves to start against Spurs, imo. And I think Klopp subbed him because he wants that option. Had he no intention of starting him against Spurs, he'd have probably left him on for the full 90 against Genk.

I wouldn't start Ox and Keita though, I think it'll leave us too open. Given that Fabinho should be an automatic choice at DM, there's then a space for Gini, Milner or Hendo even with Ox starting. I see merits in picking any of them.

12.) 24 Oct 2019 20:23:50
I think there's an equal argument for Keita to start as much as Ox, if you are going to base an opinion on just the last game against Genk. Keita had more passes, more dribbles and more tackles than anyone else. Yes sure, it was only Genk, but there you go. How can you successfully argue that Ox would be great against Spurs but Keita wouldn't be?

The wise thing is to do what Klopp is doing. Stick with the players that got you to the top level you are at. Tinker from time to time according to the kind of team and style being faced, and make timely substitutions during games to gain what someone on the bench can offer.

I really couldn't care a damn what a player thinks if he's not starting and sitting on the bench. It's a 25 player squad that attacks each game, not just the 11 on the field. The team, and the wins, come first.

13.) 24 Oct 2019 21:15:29
The problem is playing two holding midfielders against the back 5 / 'low-block'. I would have been happy v Utd if the shackles were off Hendo to bomb forward, late runs into the box etc to give an extra attacking option. But he doesn't seem to do that. There's no need to be so defensive against teams that defend. Fabinho can hold his own.

14.) 25 Oct 2019 02:25:00
It's about finding the right balance with consideration for the oppositions style too. Keita and ox certainly add that offensive aggression but they also left our midfield open and back 4 exposed at times. I think gini and fabinho start but I also think much might depend on wether Trent can play or if Gomez slots in to RB. I think klopp would want Henderson on that side if Trent was involved but if Gomez starts maybe OX or keita could get picked as Gomez wouldn't need as much protection with his recovery pace and lack of instruction to get too advanced as Trent does.

Either way it's great to see the depth and variation of klopps midfield options, having 2 or 3 midfielders with the ability to be starters available on the bench can let klopp change the approach hugely if needed in a game.

15.) 25 Oct 2019 10:08:35
Ox will be good for some games, hendo for others . . .

16.) 27 Oct 2019 12:43:46
The ox has definitely given klopp something to think about. It was only genk though. I'd bring him on at 60 minutes. Open the tired defence.



29 Dec 2018 21:30:39
5:1 against Arsenal. Do you know what's scary. We actually played at about 60%. We've got another gear or two!


1.) 30 Dec 2018 00:07:46
We got a bit of luck, the bobbled goal came at the perfect time, and very soft pen on Lovren. But if I was an arsenal fan I’d be furious. Koscienly has stolen a living for years now, can’t believe they still play him! He makes Matip look keen. He walks back to the goal after getting beaten. Mustafi is just as bad, I swear he went off ‘injured’ the last time we put a few past them. If it gets tough he gets going. They are awful at the back, other teams just know they can have a go and put them under pressure and they can get something. Hopefully people know see that with city!

2.) 30 Dec 2018 03:33:17
Would ya stop firmane, there was only one team that was going to win when arsenal went one up. Unbelievable performance.

3.) 30 Dec 2018 04:01:09
What a day lads. city next.




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25 Jun 2020 22:59:43
They said it themselves. It’s always been, Liverpool’s perch.




05 Jun 2020 22:22:17
I think it’s clear Liverpool have the best team in the world. But what we don’t have is the best squad. So when ‘for example’ Allison gets injured, we’re out of the Champions league straight away.
We need to find a way to get players to challenge the first 11. I see only Milner Ox and Matip.


1.) 05 Jun 2020 23:20:10
Problem is with this team and how good it is, it's hard for anybody to get into it. It's alright saying we need a squad of quality but the issue is getting it. If I was a footballer, I wouldn't want to be at Liverpool because the chances of getting into that starting 11 are slim to none, they're that good. Not many people will be happy sitting on the bench waiting for a chance that may never come. Their careers are over in a blink of an eye, they want to be playing football.

2.) 05 Jun 2020 22:48:33
So you think we should spend £20 million on a backup goalkeeper?

3.) 05 Jun 2020 23:54:01
Salah I wouldn’t want a footballer who doesn’t believe he can force his way into the first team either. The only way we improve is with players who believe they can displace the player in front of them.

4.) 06 Jun 2020 02:54:41
i think we should just accept that we aren't city. We're not going to have ederson in goal and then another first choice GK on the bench like the guy they have whose name I can't remember. who is that guy?

5.) 06 Jun 2020 05:44:29
Timo Werner was okay with the idea of joining the squad. On fit he was never going to replace any of the front three but he was begging to join us.
We don’t have money with in Salah! Accept it! We might need to raise cash by sales (who looks dim) or Borrow!

{Ed001's Note - we didn't have any money when Virgil joined etc. If Klopp really wanted Werner then the money would have been found. Clearly he didn't see the value in the deal.}

6.) 06 Jun 2020 07:21:05
To be fair, Claudio Bravo is a far worse keeper than Adrian. I actually can’t think of a side that does have an absolutely top drawer number two. Top keepers won’t settle for that. Chelsea tried it with Courtois and Cech but it didn’t work. It’s better to have a halfway decent keeper in his early thirties as number two and an absolutely top drawer number one. Which is where I think we are.

7.) 06 Jun 2020 09:59:48
Absolutely agree with Ed001 here (take a deep breath Ed lol) .
There hasn’t been any club better in the PL in getting value for money in their recruitment than Liverpool.
Give the club a break, and let’s see what the Summer brings.

{Ed001's Note - well said TJ.}

8.) 06 Jun 2020 10:15:09
Sorry Ed01, so what exactly he was trying all these days talking to the player. The price was there for everyone to be seen. The guy was begging to join us!

{Ed001's Note - you mean he is not allowed to have a conversation with someone now without it meaning Klopp wants to sign them? I will expect us to be signing 500 players this summer then. Have you ever thought that the conversation might have been why Klopp decided against the move? I don't understand why people are so surprised at this, from the moment the story started LFC made it quite clear that they would not be signing him or even attempting to.}



24 May 2020 12:37:01
Thoughts on Kai Havertz reds? I thought for a long time he’s the player we should be looking at. With all the focus now on Bundesliga it’s probably all we can go off realistically watching players, just wanted to hear other people’s opinions. Special kid no doubt.


1.) 24 May 2020 14:45:55
i would absolutely love him at Liverpool, can play across the front line, be the link between midfield and attack very technical.

only 20 got plenty of experience at top level already, both a creator and a goalscoring threat. I think Klopp could turn him into a world class player.

Reality we won't sign him, it is very doubtful that we would go for someone at his price regardless of his talents.

2.) 24 May 2020 16:43:37
He’s got to keep playing week in week out. Unless we can find away to do that I don’t see any sense in the move.

3.) 24 May 2020 18:15:58
Klopp seems to like signing players a bit older if they're to be senior players. He has for Liverpool anyway. Younger players we have paid relatively small sums.
Despite all that I'd like him at liverpool.

4.) 24 May 2020 21:43:32
Ed02 has said we should forget about Kai Havertz signing for LFC this coming season. I think, I'll go with that.



14 Mar 2020 12:48:16
Day 1 without football. Forced to speak to the wife. Just found out she no longer works in Woolworths.


1.) 14 Mar 2020 13:47:36
So many people losing their jobs.
Hopefully she gains employment soon.

2.) 14 Mar 2020 15:53:16
Walter 😳😳.

3.) 14 Mar 2020 16:23:10
You think that's bad FC8, turns out my Mrs left me 2 years ago, who knew?!

4.) 14 Mar 2020 19:17:17
Walter have a beer you mapped.



30 Jan 2020 18:43:57
Just seen the new statue of Bob and EH. Absolutely fantastic.





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19 Jun 2020 11:38:46
I can’t see Klopp selling him, he’s a 10 million pound player we bought for 50 odd. Most of his signing have been class but this one is a huge let down up to now, if anything he’ll end up on loan.
One thing good about Naby tho is he took Wijnaldum and Henderson to another level. So buying him made them better, that was obvious.




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18 Mar 2020 12:38:54
I’d order a Pizza instead of the Bat.




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12 Jan 2020 13:15:41
I’ve got a feeling that Traore lad will be a good player. I can’t see Liverpool getting him though when we don’t actually ‘need’ him. Would Cost a lot and they already look like losing Jimenez.




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15 Dec 2019 18:33:45
Sancho would be a massive step down from Salah.




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27 Oct 2019 20:14:08
Mbappe is Done. But I think we might need to sell Sadio Mane if we want Roger Federer.





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01 Jul 2020 19:43:56
. Goths? They just all vanished one day?


{Ed001's Note - that was because they got the internet and could stay at home looking miserable and talking to other goths without having to go out in sunlight.}



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29 Jun 2020 21:44:15
And that kids, is why you shouldn’t do Spice.




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28 Jun 2020 12:38:31
Kevin De Bruyne would do 👀😂 but realistically I think Firmino will be dropping in and a striker being bought.




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27 Jun 2020 13:41:16
Top of the world Liverpool FC!
Does anybody know when we’ll get our hands on the trophy?




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27 Jun 2020 01:20:51
This is big news. Add this to the wall of champions at Melwood. Little picture of Positive Walt and a cheeky number 1 under it.