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09 Sep 2021 14:53:18
@Ed002 or anyone else that might know - how many days before an international match must a club release their players? Or is it just to be released for the date of the international window?
With the rules in Brazil stating that anyone who arrives from the UK must isolate for 14 days then I believe in order to play, they would have to leave the UK 17 or 18 days before the match. I don't think the national teams have the authority to request them to travel that much in advance of a match. This potential ban is a bit of a farce.
{Ed002's Note - You are picking at irrational straws.}
1.) 09 Sep 2021 23:06:23
And there was me thinking I was being rational.
2.) 10 Sep 2021 05:45:17
Did the Brazilian FA (or national team) say that players had to travel 17 or 18 days before the match? I missed that bit.
3.) 10 Sep 2021 08:16:58
@WDW no. When landing in Brazil the rules were that coming from the UK you must isolate for 14 days.
Would that not mean, land, hotel for 14 days and then you are allowed to join your teammates after this for training and the match - this is why I said 17 or 18 days to allow a few days with the team before the match.
Point being, the 14 days is the rule in Brazil so to follow those rules players would have had to leave the UK a lot earlier than the Brazilian FA would have been allowed to request.
If the Brazilian FA didn't get an exemption from the 14 day rule then players would have been flying there to isolate, miss the matches and fly home to isolate again.
I really genuinely thought this was all logical what I am saying here. I'm not trying to take the mick, to follow Brazil's own rules it could never have worked.
4.) 10 Sep 2021 09:17:59
Actually, given what happened at the Brazil v Argentina match with officers storming the pitch to arrest players from Argentina (playing in EPL) suggesting they falsified paperwork for entry, it should perhaps be the case that FIFA needs to look at how Brazil has behaved and makes Sean's question pertinent. It is not irrational to talk of the 14-day rule because THAT rule formed part of the case against the players when Brazilian authorities pursued Martinez, Romero, Buendia and Lo Celso. Brazil is clearly angry that their players weren't released and so their authorities got the game abandoned by storming the game five minutes in. WHY these matches were not played at neutral and safe venues baffles me. the USA would have made a lot of sense.
5.) 10 Sep 2021 11:48:32
I think the US would have been a no go, they currently (I think it is still in place) have a presidential order in place barring non US citizens from traveling there.
6.) 10 Sep 2021 12:06:42
I think Reynard's point still stands, if Brazil did not want people flying in to the country from the UK then could the Brazilian FA looked at finding a safer country to play their match.
That would mean giving up home advantage but it is their own countries health restrictions that anyone flying in from the UK is to isolate for 14 days. If all the Brazilian players travelled then their health authority should have been taking them off the pitch 5mins in to the match as well v Argentina - utter madness and it just shows that they did not think the match through.
7.) 10 Sep 2021 12:27:47
So given the rules being as they what do you think will happen the next time Brazil play a home qualifier in Brazil and chose to select Ali, Fabs and Bobby?
{Ed002's Note - They have five games over the next 8 weeks, two of which are at home. The will select the players and depending what happens in terms of an offer made by two of the English sides they will pick the players and in not released will invoke the five day rule twice more.}
8.) 10 Sep 2021 16:45:56
Surely an exemption to the 14 day isolating rule will be agreed by then with the Brazilian health authorities.
If someone can prove that they have been vaccinated, tests negative before leaving the UK, tests negative after landing in Brazil, then it would make sense to reduce the 14 days rule - of course this is just my opinion.
9.) 11 Sep 2021 01:07:00
Good to hear the lads are allowed to play now so no ban 👍
Will be interesting to see if any plans are made for the next batch of international fixtures.
18 Aug 2021 20:36:38
@Ed002 do we have any interest in Raphinha from Leeds? I would expect that we cannot afford him, however you mentioned in another post that Leeds are interested in Adama Traore from Wolves. Both play on the right wing so if Leeds are interested then it might be as a replacement for Raphinha.
I know you could comment that signing Raphinha would be to replace Salah but I think Salah would be great in the centre as well.
Also, if we are interested in £40M players like Traore and Sarr then maybe Raphinha would not be completely out of reach (I would suspect £55M maybe) .
{Ed002's Note - He is one of many players Liverpool has no interest in.}
1.) 18 Aug 2021 20:43:15
Eds2 could you do a list of all the players Liverpool have absolutely no interest in?
2.) 18 Aug 2021 20:48:41
Ok thanks Ed002, gutting but appreciate your insight as always. Have a good evening 👍.
3.) 18 Aug 2021 21:18:45
Ed2 do we hold an interest in Bernard and has he handed in a transfer request?
4.) 19 Aug 2021 07:50:35
Mighty Reds - Whilst Bernardo Silva is a very talented player and would surely be of interest to most teams, I can categorically state that he will never play for Liverpool. This man sung flippantly about our fans being attacked - one of whom so badly that he suffered brain damage. He followed this up with his unpleasant behaviour during the guard of honour given to us by City, showing no respect to a team that had won the Premier League in the record fewest number of games.
5.) 19 Aug 2021 08:20:09
Bernardo Silva? Talented footballer that would add to any team. Slime bucket of a character that is not required in our team.
Or were you asking about Bernard the Brazilian? He's left the EPL I think and is off somewhere in Turkey.
25 Jul 2021 23:39:32
Gini didn't have his best season last season, still played absolutely loads but not the impact any of us (or himself) would have wanted. He got abused online for his performances and he didn't like the abuse or some of it anyway and he has said that now.
Whoop di do. No idea why people would be upset by this. If he spent last season reading tonnes of abuse why would he want to sign a new contract. He has moved on, now let's go get someone to replace him and that's that.
1.) 26 Jul 2021 07:30:23
Let it go mate.
2.) 26 Jul 2021 12:12:30
@WDW, let it go was what I said if you read my post.
24 Aug 2015 22:19:07
Great result, great first half and good determination shown at least in the 2nd half.
A lot of positives for me - Migs overall was very good, Gomez had a good game and doesn't shy away from anything, Clyne had a very good game, Lucas was man of the match for me, Milner done well and very pleased with Benteke only he should have scored.
1.) 24 Aug 2015 22:43:54
Meant to say Coutinho played well too he worked hard and was always a threat, obviously unlucky not to get another great goal.
2.) 24 Aug 2015 22:46:26
Not sure Lucas was man of the match? Mignolet and the back four should share that. Again Benteke showed himself all game doing everything right. If he had scored then it would have been perfect.
3.) 25 Aug 2015 00:38:02
Lucas made countless interceptions and started numerous quick counter attacks. He only gave away one half needless foul and he didn't waste anything.
Of the back 4 both full backs fair enough but both centre backs played well but still had too many mistakes each and were still a little all over the place positioning wise.
08 Jun 2015 10:35:23
Midfielders - how about we don't try to sign any other midfielder and we keep Lucas and give him playing time?
Lucas, Can, Henderson, Milner, Coutinho, Lallana, Allen, Rossiter, Williams and Teixiera.
That's 7 senior squad members who can play in the central midfield roles and 3 young players to provide some additional backup.
I haven't seen any indication from the Eds that Allen could be on his way so if we're not selling Allen then how about we go with what we have here.
We can't keep buying and selling double figures of players each year. (Alberto to go so I didn't include him)
27 Oct 2021 16:27:37
@Ed0666 ya sorry that's what I meant in my last point that keeping Salah but adding Raphinha for better quality squad depth. I said that might be a bit greedy, realistically it's a reasonable amount to have 5 top players for those 3 positions but financially we keep hearing we have to sell to buy and we don't have players left to generate much funds now. I think Raphinha would be a class addition and it would give more formation options too where 4 of them could play together at times with either Bobby or Raphinha in more of a number 10 role behind three forwards.
{Ed0666's Note - I have a feeling Mane & Bobby leave in the summer. Just a hunch no inside knowledge or anything.
27 Oct 2021 13:56:32
Pure folly for me so Ed0666 haha I'm fine with that 😁
Ya we all want him to sign above all else.
I love Raphinha and think he would be a great buy for the club for example but if he was Salah's replacement then we would be down 20+ goals a season and he is one of the best realistic replacements. I think he would be a superb addition to add some more quality depth to the attacking positions but I suppose that's a bit greedy.
{Ed0666's Note - why can’t we have Salah & Raphina mate?
27 Oct 2021 09:41:34
Hahaha Ed0666 I wish! I think £60M next summer is at least £20M short of Mo's valuation so yes I would reject it.
The ultimate goal would be to get Mo to agree a new contract and continue banging in the goals for us. His value on the pitch in terms of prize money, sales of club merchandise off the pitch etc I think that would cover a lot of the £60M figure quoted above so I would rather keep him the extra season than accept that.
You would take £60M next summer so Ed0666? Of course this question is on the basis that Mo has not signed an extension before then.
{Ed0666's Note - If he was in the final year of his contract I’d take £60 million yes mate. I think it’s pure folly not to. Hopefully they announce the extension soon I don’t want this to drag.
26 Oct 2021 23:22:11
Hazard went for about £90M with massive add-ons potentially rising that.
Yes it is not exactly the same comparing Hazard a few years ago (younger) and now due to C.V. the market will have gone down a bit too, however that was with Hazard going in to the final year of his contract.
Hazard was superb before his move but Salah is clearly a phenomenal player. Maximum £60M is not realistic, I'd rather the club let him go for free than accept £60M next summer.
Hopefully he will agree a new contract but if he doesn't then I think minimum £80M.
{Ed0666's Note - are you on the Claas A’s mate? You’d rather have 0 British Pounds than have £60 million British Pounds? Please don’t run a business whatever you do.
02 Sep 2021 18:02:10
That's double what I would have expected, didn't agree with you (Ed002) on saying you thought £15M was too much for Nat Phillips but totally agree £20M is far too much for Origi.
06 Feb 2022 10:51:33
We just signed Diaz so we are fully stocked for the front three now so long as none of the big hitters leave this summer.
08 Nov 2021 09:37:06
Alisson was rattled, usually superb but he had a bad game. The first goal is not a foul, there's not enough contact from Ogbonna to say he fouled Alisson. The Cresswell one should have been a booking but not a red card for me.
I'm with bigbaz here, bad day at the office and should be giving praise to West Ham and Moyes rather than complaining about what are at best 50/ 50 calls. No complaining about Mo getting a freekick for Trent's goal.
18 Oct 2021 13:42:42
@Lowe, you were the first to bring up 300k in this thread and you said "as reported" so it sounded like you knew this is what Salah had been offered. Turns out now you just made that up so you were actually complaining about your own nonsense.
We all want Salah to sign. I said £350k a week to put some sort of a realistic estimate on it which would brake the club salary structure but not be crazy Mbappe type money. I don't see any chance of Salah getting £600k a week with us, money Mbappe can get at PSG or I also don't see Liverpool going to £450k a week either, regardless of how much Utd pay their players.
17 Oct 2021 08:24:30
@Lowe you say 300k plus bonuses as reported is a derisory offer. Is that 300k GBP or EUR? Is this what the club has offered as well do you mean?
16 Oct 2021 23:08:50
The page hasn't been full of doom and gloom. A few concerns grand ya but the page hasn't been covered in tonnes of people expecting us to lose the past week.