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27 Aug 2020 21:50:14
Ed regarding your long post - thank you for the breakdown.

You mention Barcelona have three options for the left wing spot, mane and who?

Also, you said PSG as a potential neymar replacement - is that in the future or do you see him moving this year?

I know it’s not strictly Liverpool related but I’d hate to see mane leave, so just want to weigh up the options!

Firmane

{Ed002's Note - You need to take it to the relevant page where it has been addressed already.}


 

 

12 Jul 2020 22:01:17
Ed’s, I know you have mentioned about Keita not impressing overly and an expensive mistake I believe was said.

Do you think he could leave this summer?

Personally not convinced by him, I do think he has shown flashes, but it often seems like he doesn’t suit the style, he drives forward and plays a risky pass every time, even if it’s not on. I know he has played so little he needs to learn the runs and develop the chemistry a little more but I don’t see him getting there. His shots also seem wayward and weak for a player who gets chances around the edge of the box.

Firmane

{Ed002's Note - I would not expect him to leave.}


1.) 12 Jul 2020 22:33:55
He s finally getting a run of games together. He hasn't been terrible. YES he needs some work defensively but he's done a lot of good things on the ball and has done some really really good pressing things. He should be fine as long as he stays fit and continues to work hard at is faults. Like all players in the squad.

If he can stay clear of injuries and works hard I have every faith he 'll be a top player for us.

Injuries are my biggest fear with him. Ability wise he is very talented. He just needs more time on the training ground and less time in the treatment room.


2.) 12 Jul 2020 23:36:54
He’s not terrible at all, he's composed on the ball and does look to create.


3.) 13 Jul 2020 09:11:31
Yes he does all that Firmane but it's the other side of his game that he really needs to improve on.


4.) 13 Jul 2020 10:07:16
Doesn’t look fit enough for me. Has one good game then goes missing again for another 4 games. Am very disappointed after look the effort and expense we put in to get him.


5.) 13 Jul 2020 11:27:21
Haven't seen enough in the 2 seasons here to convince me he will be a regular starter in that midfield.


 

 

26 Jan 2020 23:36:46
I hope we don’t just go under 23s in the replay. It’s clear matip and Lovren need games, they looked welll off the pace - it’s the perfect time for them. I said before Adrian deserves another game, as I doubt he will get another all going well. There’s a big difference between a few fringe players and the best of the young guns, versus full under 23s. If I were Elliot, Jones, Williams or chiravella I’d be hoping to get a game for one, but I’d be hoping to have the best chance of winning it. I’d want another game after it.

From the squad today, maybe leave out salah Firmio, ox, fabinho and bring in a few others - but what If shaqiri is fit by then - has barely played im sure he’d be grateful for the minutes - origi too, Minamino barely played in months before joining us.

I’m happy to give youth a fair go at it in the cups, but the word there is fair - give them a helping Hand.

Firmane

1.) 27 Jan 2020 05:02:44
I agree, just keep pretty much the same players bar Fabinho in midfield, replace him with Lallana and I think we’re good. I’m sure the players would rather stay in the competition than not, it’s a highly competitive match anyway unless we just drop like we did today, at Anfield we should have more than enough to get the job done with the same team. I understand Klopp a frustration but it’s our fault we couldn’t get past a league 1 side, we knew beforehand that they do replays so it’s our fault. I hope this does inspire the FA to make the necessary changes to the FA cup and league cup, but these competitions are for the smaller clubs in England, the world can’t revolve around the big teams who have billions of pounds of investment to be able to cope with fixture congestion, it’s not right either way but it affects the clubs at the highest level and that’s like 5% of the clubs that enter the competitions in the first place. A winter break gets put in place when we haven’t had that before and still room for complaints, Klopp needs to be careful going at war with the FA, we know how corrupt they are and they might just stiff Liverpool over in the future. Klopp is known for not whining as highlighted by Mourinho last season, but that seems to be changing now that he’s at the pinnacle of football in England. Get the job done in the replay, if he fields the same team as vs Aston Villa he can do nothing about his reputation of not taking the domestic cups seriously.


2.) 27 Jan 2020 07:30:59
For the senior lads coming back from injury I think a hot weather break could be good for them, but lads like elliot, Jones, neco ect. Even origi and minamino will be knocking on his door desperate to play in that game, see how it pans out but I reckon those players would rather start a competitive game at anfield than go on holiday, could be wrong though, I don't know any of them personally.


3.) 27 Jan 2020 07:45:05
Looks like all u23s. If I was fab, Matip, lovren I'd be begging for a another chance. they've had all the rest they need and owe the kids after that performance.


4.) 27 Jan 2020 07:45:51
I agree. Matip Lovren Fabinho Minamino All looked short of being match ready especially at a higher level. Then you have the likes of Lallana Keita Milner Shaq (if fit) all need game time. Would be a shame if we ended up getting knocked out with such a good chance to go through.


5.) 27 Jan 2020 08:51:56
I agree but unfortunately some of the players may have booked breaks away etc and from what klopp is saying he dosent want to make them change plans.


6.) 27 Jan 2020 09:32:12
ed001 I thought Fabinho Matip lovren and Minamino where awful yesterday. And it did not look like they needed a week and I think after putting in a performance like that you would hope they would want to make things right am sure Henderson would. Also with Naby just coming back and my be even Milner there is a lot of player coming back that could do with the minutes to get back to full speed. ed I would like to know your thoughts on the winter break I all ways think when we have had a week off we never look the same in the first game back.

{Ed001's Note - I agree with you, the players need games to get sharp, not a winter break. If they need a rest then give them time off training. The winter break is a nonsense idea. Half the time we end up with bad weather breaking up the season at some point anyway. To work, the break needs to be longer than 2 weeks to make sense but even that is pointless as the teams who have one spend most of it doing a mini pre-season anyway.

What is needed is a proper summer break for all players, to ensure they get the chance to switch off and relax. A mid-season break does not allow the players to do so, any more than just having the games less crammed together during the season would do and teams giving the players a day or more off training every so often.}


7.) 27 Jan 2020 10:47:21
ed001 I could not agree more, to make time I think its time the carabao cup has to go, Are season start to early I feel the start of the carabao cup has something to do with that as the second round starts before most other leagues start. Then you have Klopp and all the other managers moaning, But every year the clubs travel all over the world on preseason tours. Then there is all the international tournaments that seem to be every summer now. If the carabao cup went we could bring the fa cup forward use a few of there dates for early midweek leagues Fixtures Because end of December to end of January is just to much. My be make Boxing day fixture the Fa cup 3rd round that would bring a bit of magic back to the Fa cup with it being such an iconic date for football.

{Ed001's Note - personally I don't think getting rid of the League Cup is the answer. Why that and not all those pre-season contests?}


8.) 27 Jan 2020 11:22:06
for me ed the league cup most of the time its just full of the kids who most of them will not make it and they don't expect them to make it. Even the lower league teams make changes for it. But I do think all the preseason stuff needs to go and they all so need to sort out all the international fixtures when you play 1 friendly and 1 qualifier all them silly friendly's with 11 subs just a waste of time. But I think its just Money driving the game and it just looks like instead of going the right way we are going the other way and will just end up with more games with the champions league and the club world cup getting bigger.

{Ed001's Note - the simplest way would be to remove mid-season internationals and just have two separate seasons. One for internationals and one for club competitions. Then it won't be so stop-start.}


9.) 27 Jan 2020 13:49:46
I agree with that one ed1, I'm also of the opinion to make the season shorter by cutting out internationals.
Then have a 6 week international period once the season is completed.

Its better for internationals as they can actually train together for a sustained period, the players are picked over a season rather than 10 good games. I also think people would pay more attention to them, at the minute they are seen as a needless distraction.

I do get it's not that simple as different countries run their seasons at different points due to weather etc.

As for preseason I would love it to go back to predominantly playing english teams (not prem teams) but won't happen as there is too much money in pointless pre season trophies.

{Ed001's Note - the international game is suffering because teams don't get to work together as well, so it makes no sense to continue as it is. The Brazilian World Cup team of 1970 spent months together before the tournament as a team, that is why they were so good.}


10.) 27 Jan 2020 15:29:49
I hope some day soon the international game becomes an U23 game like the Olympics (even if it is unofficial I. e. a few elite players resign setting off a chain of resignations from international football) . I can't see what elite footballers get out of playing international footy. People will still go out to watch international footy whether it be Harry Kane or Calvert Lewin.


11.) 27 Jan 2020 15:54:53
I think Eds and posters should look at what has really happened here rather than pointing the finger at Klopp and LFC. In June 2018 (no, that’s not a typo, 2018) the Premier League, the Football Association and the English Football League issued a joint announcement about a PL mid-season break to be introduced in February 2020. As part of that announcement, the FA chief executive stated :

"Today’s announcement proves that football can come together for the good of the game. We have also found a way to give the players a much needed mid-season break, whilst keeping the much-loved Christmas schedule in place. As we head into summer international tournaments in the future we are sure that this mid-season break will prove to be a valuable addition for our players. "

So the FA, fully supportive of the PL mid-season break, had 20 months to arrange the FA Cup 2019/ 20 calendar so that the mid-season break was respected. And they failed. So let’s lay off Klopp and LFC please guys.


12.) 28 Jan 2020 00:49:59
WW, i agree 100 per cent, I can't believe that some LFC fans are not fully behind Klopp and the owners,
the FA have, after nearly two years brought in this winter break, aimed at giving the players a much needed rest, and were told Not to play or arrange any matches during this period . Klopp is fully on board, he can see his players def need a break,
in fact, we usually see some injuries around the christmas period due to playing too many games close together, Vardy and Kane even Mane come to mind,
Klopp is protecting his players, believe in Klopp .


13.) 28 Jan 2020 02:31:47
Get League cup and FA cup replays sloshed. Play the 1 game and decide winner. now I would debate the venue to be pre fixed either as lower ranked team venue so they get sort of home adv or the higher placed venue so that they earn some cash.

Scrap international friendlies mid season. So this reduces the season by few weeks.

Arrange the NFL games and euro qualifiers during summer.


14.) 30 Jan 2020 23:09:20
Yeah, the FA replay games need to go. That will help.

Play full 90 and then straight to penalties. Scrap this replay nonsense.


 

 

17 Aug 2018 23:48:46
Ed002 a question for you if I may - and bear In mind I may be getting things mixed up here.
You can sign ‘unatttached’ players any time right?
I remember you explaining something about buy out or release clauses (can’t rememvwr which) while back, where the club theoretically pays the player to pay his own clause, therefore buying him out his contract.
I’m not trying to find ways to break the rules - just curious - but if a player buys himself out his contract, he is effectively a free agent right?
What stops a club doing this outside the transfer window?

Firmane

{Ed002's Note - A player who makes himself a free agent outside of a transfer window cannot be signed by another club until the next transfer window as the rules specifically require him to be a free agent before the previous transfer window closes - hence the reason why Claudio Marchisio left Juventus yesterday whilst the transfer window was still open and not today. Clubs can also only pay a player to release himself from his contract in Spain, else the money is taxable so it would be necessary to pay double.}


1.) 18 Aug 2018 10:29:24
Ah so no English team can take Marchisio as he wasn’t a free in their window?
Thanks for the reply, informative as always!

{Ed002's Note - That is not what I said.}


2.) 18 Aug 2018 11:37:05
Cracking question then Firmane and again great insight in the answer Ed002. Been following football for 36 years yet every days a school day on here.


3.) 19 Aug 2018 00:23:15
Indeed, JK23.


4.) 19 Aug 2018 08:51:46
Isn’t it more about player registration. There are 2 deadline a years, at the end of each window for players to be registered with the FA. If they are not registered by this date they cannot play for the club until the next registration window is open. The only except is free agents, who if they were a free agent at the registration deadline, they can sign and register for a club.

{Ed002's Note - No, it is as I said. It depends when he becomes a free agent. If, for example, Lazar Markovic were to come to agreement with Liverpool of October 1 that they were to end their relationship and he were to become a free agent, he cannot sign with Olympiakos until January 1 when the Greek transfer window opens. However, should Lazio decide they wish to sign Ross Turnbull, they can do so now as he was a free agent during the previous transfer window.}


5.) 19 Aug 2018 11:49:52
That is where I’m getting mixed up Ed, why can marchisio sign for English team of our window is shut, yes Markovic can’t sign for an English team? What am I missing lol.

{Ed002's Note - One is a free agent and one is contracted to Liverpool and can only be loaned.}


6.) 19 Aug 2018 20:19:44
Sorry ed, I meant in your example if Liverpool decided to end their relationship?

{Ed002's Note - He would not have been available when the transfer window was open. There is no way for Liverpool to cheat here. It is all perfectly clear.}


7.) 20 Aug 2018 00:43:42
Yet again a conspiracy against us! Not allowing us to cheat 😡.


8.) 20 Aug 2018 11:19:35
Thats a good move for Turnbull, but I hope he realises its like a foreign country over there!


 

 

13 May 2018 22:26:56
We have Keita coming and are linked with another cm. We are losing can. We have been saying for seasons we lack that bite in midfield and maybe Keita adds that, but something noticeable for me, against city and against Roma in the first legs, hendo, Milner, gini or Ox won 80% of lose balls, headers and 50/50s which WA Skye to our quick turnovers and counters for me.

I hope we don't lose that, and if we do sign another cm, I obviously hope they are a good footballer first, and suits our style, but can't help but think that physical edge would be great.
I know we have been loosely linked with Jorginho, but I don't believe he really offers that.
Are we linked with any who do?

Firmane

1.) 14 May 2018 10:08:47
Do you honestly believe that Klopp would sign a midfielder who wasn't a good footballer or didn't suit our style?
Or couldn't stand up to the hurly burly of the Premiership?


2.) 14 May 2018 11:54:17
He DID sign Steven Caulker on loan at one point. lol.


3.) 14 May 2018 14:03:21
I propose a ban on the mentioning of Caulker on this site, Klopp has had an excellent record in the transfer window for us but every time someone mentions it, someone says caulker.


4.) 14 May 2018 15:16:11
Reynard, he signed him based on the opinion of someone within the club. He decided to trust this persons view and then learnt from it. That is entirely different to his view when signing a player.


5.) 14 May 2018 20:28:02
Loosen up, it's a joke (hence the "lol") . sad lack of humour on here sometimes.


 

 

 

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15 Sep 2021 22:28:19
What a great game. Okay by no means perfect but heavy metal football back for a night - I almost think klopp told them to put On a show for the fans. As per could have been more clinical and no chance should we have let two in.
Perfect show of rotation for me, and I’d much rather bring in the likes of origi (who I thought did rather well considering his lack of game time) and Gomez regularly but one at a time than make wholesale changes.
Great watch though!

Firmane

 

 

12 Sep 2021 19:39:07
Good win, but I’m absolutely gutted for Harvey Elliot. 18 and he’s been quality. Praying it’s a dislocation which could be 3/ 4 months, but it looked nasty from one look on TV.
He’s done it against Burnley and was trusted against Chelsea too, really been the bright spark for us so far, and looked better each game. Seems like a good lad too, hoping he’s back stronger soon!

Firmane

1.) 12 Sep 2021 20:17:21
I agree. He seems like a good lad and it's unfortunate he's injured this seriously and this early in the season. He's been a mini revelation so far. I hope keita and chamberlain can step up and prove their worth in his absence.


2.) 12 Sep 2021 20:43:04
I’m not 100% but i thought a dislocation was worse than a break or fracture due to the ligament, nerve, blood vessel and skin damage a dislocation will cause.


3.) 12 Sep 2021 20:55:15
Let's hope the ankle is realigned quickly into socket and it can just naturally heal, he is young and is with expert medical team so God willing its a natural process.
Don't forget we have curtis jones another young lad very similar position to elliot who has to step up alongside the other midfield options.


4.) 12 Sep 2021 21:30:26
I believe ankle dislocations are in the region of 3 months or so, which if you had surgery on an ankle ligament would be about the same time as well. That is not as bad as a leg break or serious knee injury, which for reference are incidents like the Eduardo, Ramsey or Ox injuries where players are out for over a year and may never come back the same player. It looks like the stuff of nightmares when you see it initially but if that is indeed what he has done then the bigger picture could be a lot worse. Hopefully it won’t have any lasting effect on the trajectory of his career and we could see him back in the new year, fingers crossed.


5.) 12 Sep 2021 21:26:46
Liverpool Football Club can confirm Harvey Elliott has been discharged from hospital after suffering a serious ankle injury in the game against Leeds United on Sunday.

The 18-year-old was stretchered from the field at Elland Road after sustaining the injury in a challenge midway through the second half.

Elliott will be required to undergo surgery in the coming days and the club will offer a further update on his prognosis in due course.

Harvey, his family and Liverpool FC would like to place on record their thanks to the paramedics and all the staff at Leeds General Infirmary for the care and treatment given.

{Ed025's Note - cheers JK..


6.) 12 Sep 2021 22:19:32
Wasn't expecting an update until the swelling went down and a CT scan was done. This will help develop him mentally and he has a great network of players around him to help support him and the best supporters in the world wishing him well.


7.) 13 Sep 2021 09:11:03
Fully agree, Redscarface. The kid will be fine. He has a good entourage at the club to help him thru this long and arduous road back to fitness.


 

 

05 Sep 2021 20:25:28
Not a clue what’s going on but it seems like a good idea for fabs firmino and Allison to stay out this time….

Firmane

 

 

27 Aug 2021 18:21:18
With ronaldo confirmed basically, do you think this will be one of the closest four way titles races in history? For me United we’re fourth favourites but there’s doubt, despite being 36 ronaldo brings you 20 goals a season, which United did lack. Strengthened at the back, up front and have good creativity in the middle - but lacking a cdm and a decent manager. City with no striker but a wealth of talent, strong defensive line and won’t struggle to score plenty, but maybe drop points because of the out and out striker in some games. Chelsea, I like tuchel, but arguably too defensive, however that does give them a solid base. If lukaku hits the ground running, that’s another 20 goals, plus mount, Havertz, Werner, pulisic etc will get you goals and creativity too.
Then us. a lot depends on key played staying fit, but still got the strongest 11 for me. Replacements aren’t bad at all, but players like salah mane fabs Trent vvd and Alison are irreplaceable for me. I’m sure we will be up there.
With fans back too, VAR improving, could be a hell of a ride!

Firmane

{Ed025's Note - VAR improving could be a major spanner in the works firmane mate.. :)


1.) 27 Aug 2021 18:33:32
Agreed, 25. With proper VAR, we should win the league by at least 20 points.

{Ed025's Note - i was thinking the other way SR.. :)


2.) 27 Aug 2021 19:32:04
Not sure how VAR improvement works against us after last season. Couldn’t get any worse could it.


3.) 27 Aug 2021 19:35:42
Ed0025 pretty sure Liverpool were top of the Var decisions against table last season.

{Ed025's Note - but you did win a league title on the back of it the season before JK, do you remember mate?..


4.) 27 Aug 2021 20:18:46
No, all i remember is being 20 odd points clear by New Year, the rest is a drunken haze😆.


5.) 27 Aug 2021 20:19:14
Won the league by 20 odd points and it was Down to var? Holy jesus I heard it all now😂, that bitter streak you say ain't there is coming out ed25.

{Ed025's Note - moi bitter?, come on port you know better than that mate... :)


6.) 27 Aug 2021 20:29:40
Ed0025 🤣 I’m pretty sure we were top or close to the top of Var decisions against, that season as well. I don’t think Everton had many Var decisions go against due to their lack of attacking ability. It’s hard to disallow a goal or not award a pen when you’re averaging 1 shot a game 😜.

{Ed025's Note - we all know the truth JK, it will come out in the future just like roswell and the killing of princess diana mate..


7.) 27 Aug 2021 19:57:10
Ed025 is Richarlison going to PSG? I have him in my fantasy team so need to know. Thanks.

{Ed025's Note - not unless we get a suitable replacement WM..


8.) 27 Aug 2021 21:53:36
Ed0025 surely Tom Daley would be an adequate replacement. He also loves to dive and can’t play football.


 

 

06 Jul 2021 23:33:01
Thiago seemed off today, on pure visuals seems like he is not part of this Spain squad in spirit. Enrique gives him 15 mins, he sprays 4 long passes off into god knows where… trying too hard? He was awesome end of the year for us, hopefully gets a good break now and comes back and repeats it for us next season.

Firmane

1.) 07 Jul 2021 00:13:02
I was there tonight and he came on too late, played far too deep and was trying to force the game when half the team were playing for penalties. Horrid game for him to walk into because both sides were tight with the pressure of the big occasion.
He buried his pen in the shootout though!


2.) 07 Jul 2021 01:34:55
I thought he showed great team spirit. At end of regular time he was on the field talking to the ref, geeing the players up and even uncapping an energy pouch for another player. Nice pen as well.
More rest for one of ours, not complaining tbh.


3.) 07 Jul 2021 10:15:52
OP, why would anyone judge Thiago based on him comin on in extra time in a game where both teams esp Italy were doing their best not to concede and go to penalties? I personally, could not be arsed esp since Enrique does not fancy him and that is his choice. It does not diminish Thiago's ability at all cos we all know int'l managers have another way of playing also, they have their favs. too at times (see Morata) . I would not bother that much about Thiago in the Spain setup. He will be fresh for the new season and that is what matters to me now.


 

 

 

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31 Aug 2021 22:07:25
Also could see joe be a cover right back, and Phillips cb. Reserve back four being gomez konate phillips and kostas.

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29 Aug 2021 12:01:16
I wouldn’t say no to loaning Jones for a season if he gets lots of game time.

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26 Aug 2021 22:43:37
Ed, do you really see kessie offering much more than we have? Fabs and hendo with Thiago? Maybe more legs than hendo has now, but not more leadership. Fabs has the cdm role nailed down, and I don’t see kessie offering what Thiago does on the ball. Given we also have Jones and Elliot to give game time too, and Keita, is that what we need?

Firmane

{Ed0666's Note - not when you bring logic into the equation but then by that logic we don’t need Bissouma which I think we do. I’d be happy with Kessie or Bissouma and sell Ox/Keita next season.


 

 

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22 Aug 2021 20:07:55
Shaq played most of his time as sub, and in the midfield, Elliot has taken that role now.

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22 Aug 2021 17:00:56
I know he downed tools for us, but it was his dream move and things haven’t worked out. Grass isn’t always greener that’s for sure, and I’m sure he has realised, and we came out of it a lot better off. I wouldn’t be opposed to having him back because of the way he left, if he was truly in it for us. However, he hasn’t shown any form for ages, is injured a lot… for me that’s a bigger reason as to why not.

Firmane

{Ed077's Note - he has failed miserably at Barcelona, surely you aren't serious about wanting/taking Coutinho back


 

 

 

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19 Sep 2021 09:46:22
Can’t see richarlison staying too much longer at this rate Ed can you? Paid a lot for him though so will no doubt ask a lot back.

Firmane

{Ed025's Note - hes injured firmane but i cant see us letting him go mate..


 

 

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19 Sep 2021 09:51:08
I said to my mate yesterday I’m loving this ‘new’ salah. He holds it when he needs too, shoots when there’s a chance but also gives it quick at the right time.

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17 Sep 2021 12:40:35
I thought kessie looked pretty lost on the ball, and could not cope with this press. Not always his fault maybe.

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15 Sep 2021 00:50:17
Back five with a cm, two cams and a striker was awful tactics. I’d back city to beat young boys 2/ 3-0 with ten men.

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13 Sep 2021 07:49:35
I don’t think they are allowing more ‘rough’ contact. they are just not giving soft body contact fouls.

Firmane