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27 Aug 2020 21:50:14
Ed regarding your long post - thank you for the breakdown.

You mention Barcelona have three options for the left wing spot, mane and who?

Also, you said PSG as a potential neymar replacement - is that in the future or do you see him moving this year?

I know it’s not strictly Liverpool related but I’d hate to see mane leave, so just want to weigh up the options!

Firmane

{Ed002's Note - You need to take it to the relevant page where it has been addressed already.}


 

 

12 Jul 2020 22:01:17
Ed’s, I know you have mentioned about Keita not impressing overly and an expensive mistake I believe was said.

Do you think he could leave this summer?

Personally not convinced by him, I do think he has shown flashes, but it often seems like he doesn’t suit the style, he drives forward and plays a risky pass every time, even if it’s not on. I know he has played so little he needs to learn the runs and develop the chemistry a little more but I don’t see him getting there. His shots also seem wayward and weak for a player who gets chances around the edge of the box.

Firmane

{Ed002's Note - I would not expect him to leave.}


1.) 12 Jul 2020 22:33:55
He s finally getting a run of games together. He hasn't been terrible. YES he needs some work defensively but he's done a lot of good things on the ball and has done some really really good pressing things. He should be fine as long as he stays fit and continues to work hard at is faults. Like all players in the squad.

If he can stay clear of injuries and works hard I have every faith he 'll be a top player for us.

Injuries are my biggest fear with him. Ability wise he is very talented. He just needs more time on the training ground and less time in the treatment room.


2.) 12 Jul 2020 23:36:54
He’s not terrible at all, he's composed on the ball and does look to create.


3.) 13 Jul 2020 09:11:31
Yes he does all that Firmane but it's the other side of his game that he really needs to improve on.


4.) 13 Jul 2020 10:07:16
Doesn’t look fit enough for me. Has one good game then goes missing again for another 4 games. Am very disappointed after look the effort and expense we put in to get him.


5.) 13 Jul 2020 11:27:21
Haven't seen enough in the 2 seasons here to convince me he will be a regular starter in that midfield.


 

 

26 Jan 2020 23:36:46
I hope we don’t just go under 23s in the replay. It’s clear matip and Lovren need games, they looked welll off the pace - it’s the perfect time for them. I said before Adrian deserves another game, as I doubt he will get another all going well. There’s a big difference between a few fringe players and the best of the young guns, versus full under 23s. If I were Elliot, Jones, Williams or chiravella I’d be hoping to get a game for one, but I’d be hoping to have the best chance of winning it. I’d want another game after it.

From the squad today, maybe leave out salah Firmio, ox, fabinho and bring in a few others - but what If shaqiri is fit by then - has barely played im sure he’d be grateful for the minutes - origi too, Minamino barely played in months before joining us.

I’m happy to give youth a fair go at it in the cups, but the word there is fair - give them a helping Hand.

Firmane

1.) 27 Jan 2020 05:02:44
I agree, just keep pretty much the same players bar Fabinho in midfield, replace him with Lallana and I think we’re good. I’m sure the players would rather stay in the competition than not, it’s a highly competitive match anyway unless we just drop like we did today, at Anfield we should have more than enough to get the job done with the same team. I understand Klopp a frustration but it’s our fault we couldn’t get past a league 1 side, we knew beforehand that they do replays so it’s our fault. I hope this does inspire the FA to make the necessary changes to the FA cup and league cup, but these competitions are for the smaller clubs in England, the world can’t revolve around the big teams who have billions of pounds of investment to be able to cope with fixture congestion, it’s not right either way but it affects the clubs at the highest level and that’s like 5% of the clubs that enter the competitions in the first place. A winter break gets put in place when we haven’t had that before and still room for complaints, Klopp needs to be careful going at war with the FA, we know how corrupt they are and they might just stiff Liverpool over in the future. Klopp is known for not whining as highlighted by Mourinho last season, but that seems to be changing now that he’s at the pinnacle of football in England. Get the job done in the replay, if he fields the same team as vs Aston Villa he can do nothing about his reputation of not taking the domestic cups seriously.


2.) 27 Jan 2020 07:30:59
For the senior lads coming back from injury I think a hot weather break could be good for them, but lads like elliot, Jones, neco ect. Even origi and minamino will be knocking on his door desperate to play in that game, see how it pans out but I reckon those players would rather start a competitive game at anfield than go on holiday, could be wrong though, I don't know any of them personally.


3.) 27 Jan 2020 07:45:05
Looks like all u23s. If I was fab, Matip, lovren I'd be begging for a another chance. they've had all the rest they need and owe the kids after that performance.


4.) 27 Jan 2020 07:45:51
I agree. Matip Lovren Fabinho Minamino All looked short of being match ready especially at a higher level. Then you have the likes of Lallana Keita Milner Shaq (if fit) all need game time. Would be a shame if we ended up getting knocked out with such a good chance to go through.


5.) 27 Jan 2020 08:51:56
I agree but unfortunately some of the players may have booked breaks away etc and from what klopp is saying he dosent want to make them change plans.


6.) 27 Jan 2020 09:32:12
ed001 I thought Fabinho Matip lovren and Minamino where awful yesterday. And it did not look like they needed a week and I think after putting in a performance like that you would hope they would want to make things right am sure Henderson would. Also with Naby just coming back and my be even Milner there is a lot of player coming back that could do with the minutes to get back to full speed. ed I would like to know your thoughts on the winter break I all ways think when we have had a week off we never look the same in the first game back.

{Ed001's Note - I agree with you, the players need games to get sharp, not a winter break. If they need a rest then give them time off training. The winter break is a nonsense idea. Half the time we end up with bad weather breaking up the season at some point anyway. To work, the break needs to be longer than 2 weeks to make sense but even that is pointless as the teams who have one spend most of it doing a mini pre-season anyway.

What is needed is a proper summer break for all players, to ensure they get the chance to switch off and relax. A mid-season break does not allow the players to do so, any more than just having the games less crammed together during the season would do and teams giving the players a day or more off training every so often.}


7.) 27 Jan 2020 10:47:21
ed001 I could not agree more, to make time I think its time the carabao cup has to go, Are season start to early I feel the start of the carabao cup has something to do with that as the second round starts before most other leagues start. Then you have Klopp and all the other managers moaning, But every year the clubs travel all over the world on preseason tours. Then there is all the international tournaments that seem to be every summer now. If the carabao cup went we could bring the fa cup forward use a few of there dates for early midweek leagues Fixtures Because end of December to end of January is just to much. My be make Boxing day fixture the Fa cup 3rd round that would bring a bit of magic back to the Fa cup with it being such an iconic date for football.

{Ed001's Note - personally I don't think getting rid of the League Cup is the answer. Why that and not all those pre-season contests?}


8.) 27 Jan 2020 11:22:06
for me ed the league cup most of the time its just full of the kids who most of them will not make it and they don't expect them to make it. Even the lower league teams make changes for it. But I do think all the preseason stuff needs to go and they all so need to sort out all the international fixtures when you play 1 friendly and 1 qualifier all them silly friendly's with 11 subs just a waste of time. But I think its just Money driving the game and it just looks like instead of going the right way we are going the other way and will just end up with more games with the champions league and the club world cup getting bigger.

{Ed001's Note - the simplest way would be to remove mid-season internationals and just have two separate seasons. One for internationals and one for club competitions. Then it won't be so stop-start.}


9.) 27 Jan 2020 13:49:46
I agree with that one ed1, I'm also of the opinion to make the season shorter by cutting out internationals.
Then have a 6 week international period once the season is completed.

Its better for internationals as they can actually train together for a sustained period, the players are picked over a season rather than 10 good games. I also think people would pay more attention to them, at the minute they are seen as a needless distraction.

I do get it's not that simple as different countries run their seasons at different points due to weather etc.

As for preseason I would love it to go back to predominantly playing english teams (not prem teams) but won't happen as there is too much money in pointless pre season trophies.

{Ed001's Note - the international game is suffering because teams don't get to work together as well, so it makes no sense to continue as it is. The Brazilian World Cup team of 1970 spent months together before the tournament as a team, that is why they were so good.}


10.) 27 Jan 2020 15:29:49
I hope some day soon the international game becomes an U23 game like the Olympics (even if it is unofficial I. e. a few elite players resign setting off a chain of resignations from international football) . I can't see what elite footballers get out of playing international footy. People will still go out to watch international footy whether it be Harry Kane or Calvert Lewin.


11.) 27 Jan 2020 15:54:53
I think Eds and posters should look at what has really happened here rather than pointing the finger at Klopp and LFC. In June 2018 (no, that’s not a typo, 2018) the Premier League, the Football Association and the English Football League issued a joint announcement about a PL mid-season break to be introduced in February 2020. As part of that announcement, the FA chief executive stated :

"Today’s announcement proves that football can come together for the good of the game. We have also found a way to give the players a much needed mid-season break, whilst keeping the much-loved Christmas schedule in place. As we head into summer international tournaments in the future we are sure that this mid-season break will prove to be a valuable addition for our players. "

So the FA, fully supportive of the PL mid-season break, had 20 months to arrange the FA Cup 2019/ 20 calendar so that the mid-season break was respected. And they failed. So let’s lay off Klopp and LFC please guys.


12.) 28 Jan 2020 00:49:59
WW, i agree 100 per cent, I can't believe that some LFC fans are not fully behind Klopp and the owners,
the FA have, after nearly two years brought in this winter break, aimed at giving the players a much needed rest, and were told Not to play or arrange any matches during this period . Klopp is fully on board, he can see his players def need a break,
in fact, we usually see some injuries around the christmas period due to playing too many games close together, Vardy and Kane even Mane come to mind,
Klopp is protecting his players, believe in Klopp .


13.) 28 Jan 2020 02:31:47
Get League cup and FA cup replays sloshed. Play the 1 game and decide winner. now I would debate the venue to be pre fixed either as lower ranked team venue so they get sort of home adv or the higher placed venue so that they earn some cash.

Scrap international friendlies mid season. So this reduces the season by few weeks.

Arrange the NFL games and euro qualifiers during summer.


14.) 30 Jan 2020 23:09:20
Yeah, the FA replay games need to go. That will help.

Play full 90 and then straight to penalties. Scrap this replay nonsense.


 

 

17 Aug 2018 23:48:46
Ed002 a question for you if I may - and bear In mind I may be getting things mixed up here.
You can sign ‘unatttached’ players any time right?
I remember you explaining something about buy out or release clauses (can’t rememvwr which) while back, where the club theoretically pays the player to pay his own clause, therefore buying him out his contract.
I’m not trying to find ways to break the rules - just curious - but if a player buys himself out his contract, he is effectively a free agent right?
What stops a club doing this outside the transfer window?

Firmane

{Ed002's Note - A player who makes himself a free agent outside of a transfer window cannot be signed by another club until the next transfer window as the rules specifically require him to be a free agent before the previous transfer window closes - hence the reason why Claudio Marchisio left Juventus yesterday whilst the transfer window was still open and not today. Clubs can also only pay a player to release himself from his contract in Spain, else the money is taxable so it would be necessary to pay double.}


1.) 18 Aug 2018 10:29:24
Ah so no English team can take Marchisio as he wasn’t a free in their window?
Thanks for the reply, informative as always!

{Ed002's Note - That is not what I said.}


2.) 18 Aug 2018 11:37:05
Cracking question then Firmane and again great insight in the answer Ed002. Been following football for 36 years yet every days a school day on here.


3.) 19 Aug 2018 00:23:15
Indeed, JK23.


4.) 19 Aug 2018 08:51:46
Isn’t it more about player registration. There are 2 deadline a years, at the end of each window for players to be registered with the FA. If they are not registered by this date they cannot play for the club until the next registration window is open. The only except is free agents, who if they were a free agent at the registration deadline, they can sign and register for a club.

{Ed002's Note - No, it is as I said. It depends when he becomes a free agent. If, for example, Lazar Markovic were to come to agreement with Liverpool of October 1 that they were to end their relationship and he were to become a free agent, he cannot sign with Olympiakos until January 1 when the Greek transfer window opens. However, should Lazio decide they wish to sign Ross Turnbull, they can do so now as he was a free agent during the previous transfer window.}


5.) 19 Aug 2018 11:49:52
That is where I’m getting mixed up Ed, why can marchisio sign for English team of our window is shut, yes Markovic can’t sign for an English team? What am I missing lol.

{Ed002's Note - One is a free agent and one is contracted to Liverpool and can only be loaned.}


6.) 19 Aug 2018 20:19:44
Sorry ed, I meant in your example if Liverpool decided to end their relationship?

{Ed002's Note - He would not have been available when the transfer window was open. There is no way for Liverpool to cheat here. It is all perfectly clear.}


7.) 20 Aug 2018 00:43:42
Yet again a conspiracy against us! Not allowing us to cheat 😡.


8.) 20 Aug 2018 11:19:35
Thats a good move for Turnbull, but I hope he realises its like a foreign country over there!


 

 

13 May 2018 22:26:56
We have Keita coming and are linked with another cm. We are losing can. We have been saying for seasons we lack that bite in midfield and maybe Keita adds that, but something noticeable for me, against city and against Roma in the first legs, hendo, Milner, gini or Ox won 80% of lose balls, headers and 50/50s which WA Skye to our quick turnovers and counters for me.

I hope we don't lose that, and if we do sign another cm, I obviously hope they are a good footballer first, and suits our style, but can't help but think that physical edge would be great.
I know we have been loosely linked with Jorginho, but I don't believe he really offers that.
Are we linked with any who do?

Firmane

1.) 14 May 2018 10:08:47
Do you honestly believe that Klopp would sign a midfielder who wasn't a good footballer or didn't suit our style?
Or couldn't stand up to the hurly burly of the Premiership?


2.) 14 May 2018 11:54:17
He DID sign Steven Caulker on loan at one point. lol.


3.) 14 May 2018 14:03:21
I propose a ban on the mentioning of Caulker on this site, Klopp has had an excellent record in the transfer window for us but every time someone mentions it, someone says caulker.


4.) 14 May 2018 15:16:11
Reynard, he signed him based on the opinion of someone within the club. He decided to trust this persons view and then learnt from it. That is entirely different to his view when signing a player.


5.) 14 May 2018 20:28:02
Loosen up, it's a joke (hence the "lol") . sad lack of humour on here sometimes.


 

 

 

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22 Jun 2021 18:57:38
Just seen Norwich signer rashica for under 10 million. what is going on there? I thought he was touted for big things?

Firmane

1.) 22 Jun 2021 19:21:57
Werder got relegated and he spent a lot of time on the bench last season.


2.) 23 Jun 2021 03:28:19
Still a quality bit of business and a very good player Rufus. Think we’ve signed a good few from relegated teams for as far back as I can remember, Mark Wright, Deano, Shaq. Off the top of my head. IMO includes Shaq here. All have been good for us Or at least repaid the fee with enough good performances and important goals, assists or preventing us conceding.


3.) 23 Jun 2021 07:38:02
Deano was pants.


 

 

23 May 2021 23:04:16
I was watching gini extra closely today, and man the guy does not get dispossessed! He will be missed I’m sure. Always fit, and maybe plays within himself sometimes but is always a tidy player. He could have been better yes, but he was pretty damn good for us.

Firmane

1.) 23 May 2021 23:41:37
Excellent servant will be missed, now let's get bissouma if possible perfect replacement .


2.) 23 May 2021 23:45:45
Been a good player for us overall if you assess his Liverpool career as a whole. But define dispossessed because he literally played 2 simple passes straight out for throw ins today! He is incredibly hard to tackle though, you are right. I'll miss the Gini of last season. Not been pleased with his attitude the last 6 months, but when the dust settles, it'll be hard to dispute his place in the clubs history. People remember iconic moments and Gini had a few. I wish him luck for the future and thank him him for his efforts.


3.) 23 May 2021 23:51:45
I'm definitely not going to dis Gini. I will always remember when he did step up he was world class. All the best Gini and good luck with everything YNWA.


4.) 23 May 2021 23:54:59
Just wish he'd stay, better then Keita and always fit.


5.) 24 May 2021 00:29:33
As I keep saying Baz my 6 year old is better than Naby. I just hope and pray that Mr. Edwards finds some poor smuck to sign him.


6.) 24 May 2021 00:42:14
I will honestly admit that when we signed Wijnaldum i was not thrilled but he won me over with his displays.

With all that he achieved and for the price we paid for him we got our money's worth and i wish him well wherever he ends up, one of his main strengths as a player was that he was never injured, we need to make sure his replacement is just as durable.

Thank you Gigi Wijnaldum.

{Ed0666's Note - brilliant post


7.) 24 May 2021 02:53:30
BarryinLouth - that is a bit harsh on your 6 year old!


8.) 24 May 2021 05:17:57
I know what you mean about dispossessed a very silly player. Such a shame he could go missing for long periods. Wish the lad well tho.


9.) 24 May 2021 07:03:15
Does anyone really how Gini's attitude has been? Surely that comes down to a few people that know him day in and day out?
His performances might have dipped, but questioning peoples attitude and phrases like "he has downed tools" are quite insulting to who I think is a top professional.


10.) 24 May 2021 07:38:21
Gini went missing sometimes and perhaps the way he was being asked to play (more disciplined to cover the fullbacks getting foward) hampered some of his more attacking instincts which I always believed is where his real talents were. As good as he has been I don’t think we ever saw just how good he could have been. All this said he was always available, always worked hard and always looked calm on the ball. Whilst I’m not absolutely gutted he is leaving as I do think what he does can be replaced reasonably easily, I would much rather keep him and let Keita go.


11.) 24 May 2021 07:49:44
I think the only impression I can have of Gini as a person is the fact that he was given a guard of honour by his colleagues and the words that Klopp had to say about which both reflect very well on him. Hope he does well in his move, just not against us!


12.) 24 May 2021 07:50:52
Gini is a player who played a critical role in some of the biggest successes we've had since he joined - his goal against Middlesborough that got us back to the CL, against Barcelona etc. But he's also a player that has diminished in importance - with everyone fit he probably doesn't start anymore and is now over 30. Our squad needs some new blood and some younger minds in it now and unfortunately for Gini, he is the most natural played to start that process.


13.) 24 May 2021 10:43:03
Apologies I meant silky not silly 😂.


 

 

20 Apr 2021 21:59:26
Ed002 if I May, I’m sure you’re bored of super league questions but I hope I come from a different angle.

You have predicted or informed us of this for years now, and whilst I don’t know your position within the football world, are we to believe that players and managers alike were unaware of these goings on?

Or was it more of a case of known about it but didn’t believe it? Just seems odd no one spoke up before the iceberg hit so to speak.

Firmane

{Ed002's Note - You need to see the difference between responding to a threat that was made compared to looking for a solution that will see a step forward in the game through interaction with the authorities. It would be a planned change over a number of years. It is not something that would be related to the players but coaches understand this is going on in the background.}


1.) 20 Apr 2021 22:16:14
Spot on Ed2 the intention was clear to blackmail and pin down the authorities which backfired massively and FiFa/ Uefa came out as saints 😆😆.


2.) 20 Apr 2021 22:22:26
Can't see the club being Sold anytime soon, didn't they sale couple of weeks back 10% of their share to Redbird investment firm for 750M plus?

{Ed002's Note - That would be US$.}


3.) 20 Apr 2021 22:32:12
Hmmm, a step forward you say? Basically all the top teams will break away from their prospective Leagues, join a breakaway league which will be a closed shop? More money for these clubs, other leagues will go to the wall and the players will be banned by Uefa and Fifa initially.

It seems to me that the only difference is that you are giving Uefa and the Leagues notice of your intention, but in actual fact what will happen will be worse than what the Super 6 are proposing now?

Still no consideration for the fans whatever way you paint it.

{Ed002's Note - Actually no - it would be a negotiated deal as I have explained - although UEFA have declined to attend tomorrow.}


4.) 21 Apr 2021 08:18:17
I thought the owners were the best things since sliced bread 4 years ago Rover. Me and Waro were daring to go against the “they saved us” regime. We told you all this. We told you they operated a moneyball scheme. If we hadn’t sold cout and could for a kings ransom do you think vvd etc would be at the club? They’re a shower and simply out to fleece the club through its history. Henry doesn’t even know who his players are. Get them out. I’d rather be in league 2 than have owners like this lot.


 

 

01 Feb 2021 11:59:37
It’s funny how so often it’s left late. I could understand that if matips injury meant that we went out and got one late on, but getting two suggests we always had a thought for one!

I know I have no insight whatsoever and I’m sure there’s much more going on than I am aware, but if it is Kabak for example, feels like this could have been finalised earlier!

Firmane

 

 

31 Jan 2021 20:55:12
Seems Davies is on his way - never seen him play, but apparently a ball playing left footed centre half with good pace but possibly not the strongest in the air. Wish him luck! Personally think Phillips should keep his place until he doesn’t warrant it and he’s not done much wrong for me at all.

I’m sure he won’t come in first game anyway, but hendo is doing well so I’d keep Phillips and hendo midweek assuming fabinho isn’t back.

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24 May 2021 17:58:15
Scouse John, slandering all Americans because of the actions of two is why it is wrong.

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24 May 2021 17:56:29
I don’t see how Phillips hasn’t shown his worth. He’s never played in the prem and most of the time been the ‘most experienced’ centre half. He’s young, we can trust him and he’s not half bad! Typically we have been bad in the air, he’s good in the air. Say vvd got injured again. would you want Kabak and gomez or Phillips and Gomez. I know who I’d take. I don’t see any benefit of buying Kabak ad selling Phillips personally. Kabak is no quicker, not as good in the air and has a questionable history at best.

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31 Jan 2021 23:24:14
City want him too? Is Laporte stones Dias ake not enough 😂.

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15 Nov 2020 16:58:35
You mean like carragher was a die hard evertonian?

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24 Sep 2020 11:25:11
God don’t you just hate it when clubs try and get a good price for their best players 🙄.

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25 May 2021 19:07:19
If neco proves himself maybe he can force a change for Trent? I guess at the moment, moving Trent to midfield will mean buying a right back.

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06 May 2021 08:32:26
Interesting read Ed, for me, hazard is the best footballer (on his day) but the last one I’d want in my team.

Firmane

{Ed001's Note - that is a very good summing up. I would agree with that.}


 

 

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21 Apr 2021 14:01:49
Of course you can get punished for things that haven't happened. planning to commit fraud, murder or anything illegal can be punished in law and I’m sure some contracts have been broken with what has happened.

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21 Apr 2021 00:47:56
It makes you think why they didn’t just suggest the idea rather than just go full steam ahead with it and not a thought otherwise.

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20 Apr 2021 21:44:17
Why would they do that? They need to protect their assets.

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