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12 Jul 2020 22:01:17
Ed’s, I know you have mentioned about Keita not impressing overly and an expensive mistake I believe was said.

Do you think he could leave this summer?

Personally not convinced by him, I do think he has shown flashes, but it often seems like he doesn’t suit the style, he drives forward and plays a risky pass every time, even if it’s not on. I know he has played so little he needs to learn the runs and develop the chemistry a little more but I don’t see him getting there. His shots also seem wayward and weak for a player who gets chances around the edge of the box.

Firmane

{Ed002's Note - I would not expect him to leave.}


1.) 12 Jul 2020 22:33:55
He s finally getting a run of games together. He hasn't been terrible. YES he needs some work defensively but he's done a lot of good things on the ball and has done some really really good pressing things. He should be fine as long as he stays fit and continues to work hard at is faults. Like all players in the squad.

If he can stay clear of injuries and works hard I have every faith he 'll be a top player for us.

Injuries are my biggest fear with him. Ability wise he is very talented. He just needs more time on the training ground and less time in the treatment room.


2.) 12 Jul 2020 23:36:54
He’s not terrible at all, he's composed on the ball and does look to create.


3.) 13 Jul 2020 09:11:31
Yes he does all that Firmane but it's the other side of his game that he really needs to improve on.


4.) 13 Jul 2020 10:07:16
Doesn’t look fit enough for me. Has one good game then goes missing again for another 4 games. Am very disappointed after look the effort and expense we put in to get him.


5.) 13 Jul 2020 11:27:21
Haven't seen enough in the 2 seasons here to convince me he will be a regular starter in that midfield.


 

 

26 Jan 2020 23:36:46
I hope we don’t just go under 23s in the replay. It’s clear matip and Lovren need games, they looked welll off the pace - it’s the perfect time for them. I said before Adrian deserves another game, as I doubt he will get another all going well. There’s a big difference between a few fringe players and the best of the young guns, versus full under 23s. If I were Elliot, Jones, Williams or chiravella I’d be hoping to get a game for one, but I’d be hoping to have the best chance of winning it. I’d want another game after it.

From the squad today, maybe leave out salah Firmio, ox, fabinho and bring in a few others - but what If shaqiri is fit by then - has barely played im sure he’d be grateful for the minutes - origi too, Minamino barely played in months before joining us.

I’m happy to give youth a fair go at it in the cups, but the word there is fair - give them a helping Hand.

Firmane

1.) 27 Jan 2020 05:02:44
I agree, just keep pretty much the same players bar Fabinho in midfield, replace him with Lallana and I think we’re good. I’m sure the players would rather stay in the competition than not, it’s a highly competitive match anyway unless we just drop like we did today, at Anfield we should have more than enough to get the job done with the same team. I understand Klopp a frustration but it’s our fault we couldn’t get past a league 1 side, we knew beforehand that they do replays so it’s our fault. I hope this does inspire the FA to make the necessary changes to the FA cup and league cup, but these competitions are for the smaller clubs in England, the world can’t revolve around the big teams who have billions of pounds of investment to be able to cope with fixture congestion, it’s not right either way but it affects the clubs at the highest level and that’s like 5% of the clubs that enter the competitions in the first place. A winter break gets put in place when we haven’t had that before and still room for complaints, Klopp needs to be careful going at war with the FA, we know how corrupt they are and they might just stiff Liverpool over in the future. Klopp is known for not whining as highlighted by Mourinho last season, but that seems to be changing now that he’s at the pinnacle of football in England. Get the job done in the replay, if he fields the same team as vs Aston Villa he can do nothing about his reputation of not taking the domestic cups seriously.


2.) 27 Jan 2020 07:30:59
For the senior lads coming back from injury I think a hot weather break could be good for them, but lads like elliot, Jones, neco ect. Even origi and minamino will be knocking on his door desperate to play in that game, see how it pans out but I reckon those players would rather start a competitive game at anfield than go on holiday, could be wrong though, I don't know any of them personally.


3.) 27 Jan 2020 07:45:05
Looks like all u23s. If I was fab, Matip, lovren I'd be begging for a another chance. they've had all the rest they need and owe the kids after that performance.


4.) 27 Jan 2020 07:45:51
I agree. Matip Lovren Fabinho Minamino All looked short of being match ready especially at a higher level. Then you have the likes of Lallana Keita Milner Shaq (if fit) all need game time. Would be a shame if we ended up getting knocked out with such a good chance to go through.


5.) 27 Jan 2020 08:51:56
I agree but unfortunately some of the players may have booked breaks away etc and from what klopp is saying he dosent want to make them change plans.


6.) 27 Jan 2020 09:32:12
ed001 I thought Fabinho Matip lovren and Minamino where awful yesterday. And it did not look like they needed a week and I think after putting in a performance like that you would hope they would want to make things right am sure Henderson would. Also with Naby just coming back and my be even Milner there is a lot of player coming back that could do with the minutes to get back to full speed. ed I would like to know your thoughts on the winter break I all ways think when we have had a week off we never look the same in the first game back.

{Ed001's Note - I agree with you, the players need games to get sharp, not a winter break. If they need a rest then give them time off training. The winter break is a nonsense idea. Half the time we end up with bad weather breaking up the season at some point anyway. To work, the break needs to be longer than 2 weeks to make sense but even that is pointless as the teams who have one spend most of it doing a mini pre-season anyway.

What is needed is a proper summer break for all players, to ensure they get the chance to switch off and relax. A mid-season break does not allow the players to do so, any more than just having the games less crammed together during the season would do and teams giving the players a day or more off training every so often.}


7.) 27 Jan 2020 10:47:21
ed001 I could not agree more, to make time I think its time the carabao cup has to go, Are season start to early I feel the start of the carabao cup has something to do with that as the second round starts before most other leagues start. Then you have Klopp and all the other managers moaning, But every year the clubs travel all over the world on preseason tours. Then there is all the international tournaments that seem to be every summer now. If the carabao cup went we could bring the fa cup forward use a few of there dates for early midweek leagues Fixtures Because end of December to end of January is just to much. My be make Boxing day fixture the Fa cup 3rd round that would bring a bit of magic back to the Fa cup with it being such an iconic date for football.

{Ed001's Note - personally I don't think getting rid of the League Cup is the answer. Why that and not all those pre-season contests?}


8.) 27 Jan 2020 11:22:06
for me ed the league cup most of the time its just full of the kids who most of them will not make it and they don't expect them to make it. Even the lower league teams make changes for it. But I do think all the preseason stuff needs to go and they all so need to sort out all the international fixtures when you play 1 friendly and 1 qualifier all them silly friendly's with 11 subs just a waste of time. But I think its just Money driving the game and it just looks like instead of going the right way we are going the other way and will just end up with more games with the champions league and the club world cup getting bigger.

{Ed001's Note - the simplest way would be to remove mid-season internationals and just have two separate seasons. One for internationals and one for club competitions. Then it won't be so stop-start.}


9.) 27 Jan 2020 13:49:46
I agree with that one ed1, I'm also of the opinion to make the season shorter by cutting out internationals.
Then have a 6 week international period once the season is completed.

Its better for internationals as they can actually train together for a sustained period, the players are picked over a season rather than 10 good games. I also think people would pay more attention to them, at the minute they are seen as a needless distraction.

I do get it's not that simple as different countries run their seasons at different points due to weather etc.

As for preseason I would love it to go back to predominantly playing english teams (not prem teams) but won't happen as there is too much money in pointless pre season trophies.

{Ed001's Note - the international game is suffering because teams don't get to work together as well, so it makes no sense to continue as it is. The Brazilian World Cup team of 1970 spent months together before the tournament as a team, that is why they were so good.}


10.) 27 Jan 2020 15:29:49
I hope some day soon the international game becomes an U23 game like the Olympics (even if it is unofficial I. e. a few elite players resign setting off a chain of resignations from international football) . I can't see what elite footballers get out of playing international footy. People will still go out to watch international footy whether it be Harry Kane or Calvert Lewin.


11.) 27 Jan 2020 15:54:53
I think Eds and posters should look at what has really happened here rather than pointing the finger at Klopp and LFC. In June 2018 (no, that’s not a typo, 2018) the Premier League, the Football Association and the English Football League issued a joint announcement about a PL mid-season break to be introduced in February 2020. As part of that announcement, the FA chief executive stated :

"Today’s announcement proves that football can come together for the good of the game. We have also found a way to give the players a much needed mid-season break, whilst keeping the much-loved Christmas schedule in place. As we head into summer international tournaments in the future we are sure that this mid-season break will prove to be a valuable addition for our players. "

So the FA, fully supportive of the PL mid-season break, had 20 months to arrange the FA Cup 2019/ 20 calendar so that the mid-season break was respected. And they failed. So let’s lay off Klopp and LFC please guys.


12.) 28 Jan 2020 00:49:59
WW, i agree 100 per cent, I can't believe that some LFC fans are not fully behind Klopp and the owners,
the FA have, after nearly two years brought in this winter break, aimed at giving the players a much needed rest, and were told Not to play or arrange any matches during this period . Klopp is fully on board, he can see his players def need a break,
in fact, we usually see some injuries around the christmas period due to playing too many games close together, Vardy and Kane even Mane come to mind,
Klopp is protecting his players, believe in Klopp .


13.) 28 Jan 2020 02:31:47
Get League cup and FA cup replays sloshed. Play the 1 game and decide winner. now I would debate the venue to be pre fixed either as lower ranked team venue so they get sort of home adv or the higher placed venue so that they earn some cash.

Scrap international friendlies mid season. So this reduces the season by few weeks.

Arrange the NFL games and euro qualifiers during summer.


14.) 30 Jan 2020 23:09:20
Yeah, the FA replay games need to go. That will help.

Play full 90 and then straight to penalties. Scrap this replay nonsense.


 

 

17 Aug 2018 23:48:46
Ed002 a question for you if I may - and bear In mind I may be getting things mixed up here.
You can sign ‘unatttached’ players any time right?
I remember you explaining something about buy out or release clauses (can’t rememvwr which) while back, where the club theoretically pays the player to pay his own clause, therefore buying him out his contract.
I’m not trying to find ways to break the rules - just curious - but if a player buys himself out his contract, he is effectively a free agent right?
What stops a club doing this outside the transfer window?

Firmane

{Ed002's Note - A player who makes himself a free agent outside of a transfer window cannot be signed by another club until the next transfer window as the rules specifically require him to be a free agent before the previous transfer window closes - hence the reason why Claudio Marchisio left Juventus yesterday whilst the transfer window was still open and not today. Clubs can also only pay a player to release himself from his contract in Spain, else the money is taxable so it would be necessary to pay double.}


1.) 18 Aug 2018 10:29:24
Ah so no English team can take Marchisio as he wasn’t a free in their window?
Thanks for the reply, informative as always!

{Ed002's Note - That is not what I said.}


2.) 18 Aug 2018 11:37:05
Cracking question then Firmane and again great insight in the answer Ed002. Been following football for 36 years yet every days a school day on here.


3.) 19 Aug 2018 00:23:15
Indeed, JK23.


4.) 19 Aug 2018 08:51:46
Isn’t it more about player registration. There are 2 deadline a years, at the end of each window for players to be registered with the FA. If they are not registered by this date they cannot play for the club until the next registration window is open. The only except is free agents, who if they were a free agent at the registration deadline, they can sign and register for a club.

{Ed002's Note - No, it is as I said. It depends when he becomes a free agent. If, for example, Lazar Markovic were to come to agreement with Liverpool of October 1 that they were to end their relationship and he were to become a free agent, he cannot sign with Olympiakos until January 1 when the Greek transfer window opens. However, should Lazio decide they wish to sign Ross Turnbull, they can do so now as he was a free agent during the previous transfer window.}


5.) 19 Aug 2018 11:49:52
That is where I’m getting mixed up Ed, why can marchisio sign for English team of our window is shut, yes Markovic can’t sign for an English team? What am I missing lol.

{Ed002's Note - One is a free agent and one is contracted to Liverpool and can only be loaned.}


6.) 19 Aug 2018 20:19:44
Sorry ed, I meant in your example if Liverpool decided to end their relationship?

{Ed002's Note - He would not have been available when the transfer window was open. There is no way for Liverpool to cheat here. It is all perfectly clear.}


7.) 20 Aug 2018 00:43:42
Yet again a conspiracy against us! Not allowing us to cheat 😡.


8.) 20 Aug 2018 11:19:35
Thats a good move for Turnbull, but I hope he realises its like a foreign country over there!


 

 

13 May 2018 22:26:56
We have Keita coming and are linked with another cm. We are losing can. We have been saying for seasons we lack that bite in midfield and maybe Keita adds that, but something noticeable for me, against city and against Roma in the first legs, hendo, Milner, gini or Ox won 80% of lose balls, headers and 50/50s which WA Skye to our quick turnovers and counters for me.

I hope we don't lose that, and if we do sign another cm, I obviously hope they are a good footballer first, and suits our style, but can't help but think that physical edge would be great.
I know we have been loosely linked with Jorginho, but I don't believe he really offers that.
Are we linked with any who do?

Firmane

1.) 14 May 2018 10:08:47
Do you honestly believe that Klopp would sign a midfielder who wasn't a good footballer or didn't suit our style?
Or couldn't stand up to the hurly burly of the Premiership?


2.) 14 May 2018 11:54:17
He DID sign Steven Caulker on loan at one point. lol.


3.) 14 May 2018 14:03:21
I propose a ban on the mentioning of Caulker on this site, Klopp has had an excellent record in the transfer window for us but every time someone mentions it, someone says caulker.


4.) 14 May 2018 15:16:11
Reynard, he signed him based on the opinion of someone within the club. He decided to trust this persons view and then learnt from it. That is entirely different to his view when signing a player.


5.) 14 May 2018 20:28:02
Loosen up, it's a joke (hence the "lol") . sad lack of humour on here sometimes.


 

 

02 Jan 2018 08:23:42
Lijnders left to coach in Holland. All the bed to him, always spoke of very highly by klopp, hopefully can find a good replacement!

Firmane

1.) 02 Jan 2018 08:40:37
Top guy, best wishes for the future Pep.


2.) 02 Jan 2018 12:06:48
My brother in law tells me that he's a really great guy and he's wonderful to have around. Apparently he was very highly thought of at the club too so that is a big loss to us imo.


 

 

 

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09 Aug 2020 15:14:56
Seems like Lewis was the better choice if we are to go with the Greek lad - homegrown and similar cost, but is younger and has prem experience.

Firmane

1.) 09 Aug 2020 15:28:43
I think both are good options, I'm happy with Tsimikas. Remember Salah and Gini weren't 1st choice options either an they worked out pretty well, it's no biggy that Lewis didn't work out.

From what I've seen of Tsimikas he is more than able of coming in and being a good back up for us. Good deal.


2.) 09 Aug 2020 15:39:09
Never seen the Greek guy play. Lewis seemed like a good professional and obviously homegrown, but the Greek lad looks closer to the finished article from footage. Can't really make a comparison though. I'm not really an avid fan of Greek Football or the Europa League. Another ridiculous name which I'll learn to spell (a la Mkhitaryan) only for him to not sign!


3.) 09 Aug 2020 16:15:18
It'll be interesting to see if Liverpool get anything back from Norwich, led to believe that Norwich refused to negotiate at all when the first bid was rejected, especially with Jamal Lewis' heart and head already moving to Liverpool. Basically will Norwich want an unhappy player hanging around?


4.) 09 Aug 2020 16:45:46
Yeah I’ve never seen the Greek lad play, but it’s seems odd bringing someone in from abroad who has to acclimatise, get used to the league and the language - whereas for what seems to be a similar cost - maybe a 5 million more (pure guesswork on my behalf Ed002 before you step in ;) ) we could get a young player who has seemed to fit our mould, grounded hard working, and less of a bedding in period.

Not my call of course, but with the limited HG spaces, backup left back doesn’t strike me as a necessity.

{Ed002's Note - I would agree.}


5.) 09 Aug 2020 17:33:00
I think LB is absolutely a necessity. Robertson has been ran into the ground playing 50 odd games a season, we're 1 serious injury away to having to rely on a 34 year old right footer at LB (No direspect to Milly) .

Seen as Larouci wants out, Lewis isn't of the standard we need a LB.

Maybe Lewis would have been better due to being homegrown, but stumping up 20 mil odd for a back up left would appear unwise in our situation. Just my opinion of course.

{Ed002's Note - Klopp's first choice and suddenly he is not of the standard for Liverpool.}


6.) 09 Aug 2020 17:46:04
Where did I say that? 😂 I literally said in my post above I think they're both good options 🤦‍♂️ oh dear.

{Ed002's Note - "Lewis isn't of the standard we need a LB". Says very little for the manager doesn't it.}


7.) 09 Aug 2020 18:02:15
Adam Lewis Ed, as was also mentioning our other LB Larouci.

{Ed002's Note - Actually Larouci is very well thought of.}


8.) 09 Aug 2020 18:10:49
Adam Lewis Ed 😁.


9.) 09 Aug 2020 18:14:06
20mil for Lewis was just too much when you consider we really need a cb too.


10.) 09 Aug 2020 18:25:12
The young lad at Norwich must be gutted though eh, what a disappointment for him. One minute off to the champions league and now playing championship football. Surely there must be interest from other clubs eds? Who is spurs lb? Is it still Davies? And aren't Chelsea on the lookout for a lb? I seem to remember them being interested in Chilwell. And then if they got him Leicester would need someone.

{Ed002's Note - Spurs have other targets but Crystal Palace have an interest and Leicester could yet turn to him, but they too have other targets.}


11.) 09 Aug 2020 19:28:42
Maybe in the long run Palace might be a better move for Lewis. More likely to play often, and if he continues to impress, there is still time for a big move.


 

 

08 Aug 2020 21:53:35
Saw a funny tweet:
Gattuso has just bid 50 million to bring on Wijnaldum and origi at half time 😂.

Firmane

 

 

30 Jul 2020 13:18:27
This is not a rumour but I’d tell you who i would take as a backup for a season - giroud.
Give Brewster a prem loan and given Chelsea have Abraham and Werner I don’t think they’d put up a big fight.

Always seems to score against us too. Offers a bit more of a presence but also is good at link up and hold up. Can easily start a handful of games but also make an impact off the bench.

Firmane

1.) 30 Jul 2020 13:24:03
You can't be serious?


2.) 30 Jul 2020 14:13:29
Giroud is quality but I doubt Chelsea will sell him to us.

And considering he's already re-established himself ahead of Abraham, that he could play with Werner in the right formation, and that Klopp historically hasn't rotated his front three, I think he's likely to play more often at Chelsea than here. So why would he uproot himself and his family to sit on Liverpool's bench?


3.) 30 Jul 2020 14:18:28
I can see the logic Firmane and I've always liked Giroud. Would he suit our style though? He'd certainly get service from our fullbacks and he would hold the ball up well for Salah and Mane. Wages would probably be an issue though.


4.) 30 Jul 2020 14:18:35
Giroud is a seriously underrated player. I would be happy with him as back up but he will want to be playing and i imagine his wages would be sky high.


5.) 30 Jul 2020 14:59:44
Chelsea get Werner instead of Liverpool and then to top it off, we take their 33 year old lump striker. That’s like Being in one of Frank Lampards dreams.


6.) 30 Jul 2020 15:39:27
LFC8, remember when we signed that 30 year old cast off from Man City? That didn't work out did it?

Giroud is a genuinely good player, and I'd expect him to have a good bit of longevity because his game never relied on having pace or an engine to get around the pitch. But he will stay at Chelsea next season.


7.) 30 Jul 2020 15:42:15
LFC8 - what’s your definition of lump? Because in my mind, Giroud certainly isn’t one.
He’s a highly dexterous, skillful, slippery striker with some of the best movement of any PL forward. He has a career goal record of just under 1 in 2, and is one of the few players that makes flicks and tricks efficient rather than flashy. The only drawback is that he is somehow even slower than Fabregas.
It says a lot that as the season reached its conclusion and Lampard became more concerned about CL qualification, he used Giroud instead of the overhyped Abraham.


8.) 30 Jul 2020 17:44:19
Obviously opinions differ on Giroud. The facts though are he’s 34 in September. He doesn’t fit our system because he’s too slow. And he's Chelsea’s 4th highest earner.
Irrelevant if you think he’s a lump like me, or Prime Dennis Bergkamp like others, he’s just all wrong for us because of Age, Wages and speed. But he’d bring all the women to Anfield so fuch it, let's buy him.


9.) 30 Jul 2020 17:59:11
Giroud's a lump and Abraham's overhyped. I've read it all now. No more internet for today.


10.) 30 Jul 2020 18:48:43
IMO, Giroud does not fit the way we play cos he can't press, can't play the Bobbie role which is very complicated and difficult tom play in the way Bobbie plays it. That said, Giroud is severely underrated and is a brilliant footballer and if people think he is just a lump that you can just launch it to so he can hold it up then trust me, you are watching the wrong guy.

IMO, Giroud is a very adaptable player who has been able to have a very long PL career mainly due to his ability to patent his game to what the team needs at the time they need it cos at Arsenal, he participated a tonne in the buildup play cos his skill and technique on the deck is so good.

At Chelsea, he is asked to sometimes be the lump that can hold it up or be the decoy or participate in build up play depending on what is happening on the pitch at the time. As for France, they are still relying on him cos frankly, no striker has been able to dislodge him in spite of the amount of negative criticism he gets from French fans who IMO, not very little about the game.


11.) 30 Jul 2020 20:03:25
I don't think he has to be one or the other LFC8. But you are right age and wages would be against him. Ability wise though I think he would be a cracking signing.


12.) 31 Jul 2020 16:52:57
Giroud got ahead of the rest at Chelsea because there is no one else at Chelsea. Except tammy who is v young to have so much responsibility placed on him. A good player but as soon as he went a few games without scoring you could see the pressure.

Don't want Giroud anywhere near our team. Good to throw on if you need a goal in the last ten minutes. He isn't underrated, he's seriously over rated.

It was such a ridiculous op that I can forgive salah's John mconroe impression! Love ya mate.


 

 

27 Jul 2020 12:32:30
A lot of people saying we should move origi On and I for one don’t agree. This man just has a knack for big goals and seems to be okay with his role, maybe due a few more starts.

He doesn’t score that many but he also gets very little time to build sharpness and fitness.

It is also a lot harder to come into a team like yesterday when all front three are switched or cup games, than it is to replace just one - which I think he need to do more of. Rest salah for example one week and bring in origi or Mina. Give them chances to gel with the other two, whilst giving key players rest.

Firmane

{Ed025's Note - bad idea firmane, you lose the balance of the side then mate and the likelihood of losing becomes greater, never weaken your side to accommodate lesser players, if they cant come in and maintain the level of the side then get rid because they are not worth a carrot otherwise mate....when mr klopp decides to call it a day please dont apply for his job.. :)


1.) 27 Jul 2020 13:19:33
Accepting your arguments that Origi has chipped in with vital, game-winning goals in key games. But let's put it into some perspective, and look at it through goals scored. Over a 38 game season. Is it acceptable to you that a CB (Virgil Van Dijk) has 5 goals while your 4th choice forward (Origi) has only 4? Yes, Origi is not a starter but he's made 21 appearance for the season. And, yes, VVD scores mostly from corners because of his obvious physical advantage. But in the end, you have to look at what your expectations are from the position being played. I honestly don't expect goals from VVD; I value his defensive skills far more. But I do expect more goals from Origi, especially if there's talk of giving him more time at the expense of starters who have far more efficient with goals scored per game played.


2.) 27 Jul 2020 13:36:56
he scored 4 big goals last season the derby Barcelona and the champions league Final but maybe he was just lucky to be in the right place for them games. You can't rely on luck for me we should have sold him last summer his value would have never been or will be as high and he would have left on a massive high. I think i would like to see Brewster come back next season and another wide player to come in. I don't think Ox or Origi perform out wide for us when they come in for us there. I don't mind Ox covering if we are short but think we could do with somebody else there.


3.) 27 Jul 2020 13:17:47
Ed25, it is you who needs to be nowhere near the LFC job when Klopp leaves based on your harrowing record of judging LFC players as not good enuff, lol.

Seriously tho, clearly Klopp does not see these players as weakening the side at any level cos if he did not want Origi, he would have been gone and if he did not think Mino could do a job, he would not be here so like I always tell you, let things play out and see what happens. But thanks for the advice, man. Really useful (eye roll) .

{Ed025's Note - have you ever thought that due to financial restrictions the club has that viable replacements cant be sought RM?, just a thought..


4.) 27 Jul 2020 13:23:31
Ed 25 long time no speak lol
Hope your well mate
I honestly think Origi time has come to seek pastures new and that is for him not because I don’t think he is a good member of the squad
I do believe we need Minamino to come in and show he can play in this side when one of the top three don’t.

{Ed025's Note - i dont think divock brings much to the side john but im not sure funds are there to replace him with an upgrade mate, minamino is marmite at the moment so we will have to see on that one, im good thanks mate and hope you and the family are the same my friend..


5.) 27 Jul 2020 13:50:24
Come on Ed047. Just admit it. You want Origi gone because he sinks your ship almost ever single derby, LOL. And I suspect (actually hoping) that you'll do the backtrack moonwalk on Minamino in time, as with Henderson. 😉.

{Ed025's Note - ED047 is an arsenal fan ArAy, i have no axe to grind with divock mate and hope you keep him becuse he weakens your side, my view on minamino is that the league is too physical for him and although he has skill a strong breeze might blow him over mate, but as you say i have been mistaken before..


6.) 27 Jul 2020 14:08:08
Ed025 I want Origi gone but Minamino needs time when Firminho first came he was awful to just took him a bit of time to settle in. January is never a good time to move but I thought he has looked better after the restart. just not sure where he should play. Am sure if he played yesterday with Salah and Mane out wide rather than Ox and Origi he would have been a lot better. Ox is so much better in midfield And Origi just seems to slow are play down every time he gets the ball I would have rather seen Harvey Elliott start out there yesterday.

{Ed025's Note - i cant arue with much of that grino mate..


7.) 27 Jul 2020 14:12:02
Oops, sorry about that Ed025. I did mean to address you, of course. Physicality was more of an issue with Keita than I think it is with Minamino. And Keita is finally handling it far better. I'm hoping for the same from Minamino. I suggest you keep the backtrack moonwalk boots nearby Ed025, LOL. 😁.

{Ed025's Note - love it ArAY.. :)


8.) 27 Jul 2020 14:12:47
All good my friend and hope all your loved ones are well and safe
I think and i will probably get laughed out of town here
Liverpool should make a move for Sarr of Watford i know he is not home grown and what not but I feel there is a true world star waiting to come out in that lad and under klopp I really feel he could be something special
Not so much for Watford but Rennes he looked class
I just feel playing the way we do he could destroy teams and he is much better player than Traore is imo.

{Ed025's Note - a lot of people are of the same opinion about sarr john, i have not really seen enough of him to form an opinion mate..


9.) 27 Jul 2020 14:17:51
Always thought benayoun was too lightweight but I was proved wrong. I'm hopeful minamino will come good next season.


10.) 27 Jul 2020 16:53:42
Nice way to reward those big goals that brought us so much joy. Thanks div, bye mate. We all love reminding the wofld we are cl champions (6 times! ) but happy to slate the guy whom without we would have won sod all last season.

Don't listen origi, you're doing alright.


11.) 27 Jul 2020 18:01:51
I think ed025 will do the fabhino back shuffle with mino too! No offence but the guys a good player.

{Ed025's Note - i do think hes skillful robbie just a bit weak, suited more to the continental teams rather than liverpool, imagine him playing away at burnley on an ice cold wednesday night in december?, hes a bit too billy elliot for me mate..


12.) 27 Jul 2020 19:11:29
Ed25, your response is easily debunked by this simple anecdote: If LFC wanted to cash in on Origi, they would have sold him to Wolves in Jan of 2019 when they put 25m or so on the table to take him YET he either rejected it or Klopp asked him to stay cos he knew he would need him. Either way, Klopp and the club had the chance to sell the boy BUT they decided to keep him and well, as you and your wretched team were the first ones to bear the brunt of his decision to stay, the rest is history. Peace and Love.

{Ed025's Note - but that was over a year ago RM, a time when pickford was deemed the best english keeper, a time when couthino was worth £140m and a time when you were telling us all how good a keeper karius was...thinks can change dramatically in a year mate..


13.) 27 Jul 2020 19:40:22
Ed25, I fully agree BUT the point you and everyone is missing here is that regardless of what you or I may think of Origi, Klopp wants to keep him and he wants to stay. Finish. The End. I don't know why and neither do you BUT that is the bottom line, man.

Therefore if you have any beef with Origi being kept and not being sold cos he is not doing what you or I want then you beef is with Klopp, not with Origi cos the last time I checked, Origi signed an extension after winning the CL. Someone gave him that contract. He did not give it to himself now, did he?

{Ed025's Note - as i say RM i dont have any beef with divock, i just dont think he is of the quality that a league winning side like liverpool need at this time, but that is just my personal view mate and im certain that klopp knows more about football than me my friend..peace..


 

 

22 Jul 2020 21:27:01
Shout out to Brewster and Swansea, turned around a 3 point and 5 goal deficit to sneak into the play offs - and Brewster himself scored from 30 yards!

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1.) 22 Jul 2020 23:00:50
swansea legend!


 

 

 

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09 Aug 2020 13:40:46
I don’t think Robertson came as back up, it was well known we wanted to replace Moreno - and after about 8 games Robbo was first choice.

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03 Aug 2020 07:46:02
Because he’s not a starter at the moment, and might be there and probably get twice the money - not saying it’s happening but it’s not inconceivable.

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27 Jul 2020 12:28:17
So ed just hypothetically, if we loaned out Elliot for 3 years now until he’s 21 aboard - is he no longer considered home grown? Or as the parent club, does it still count?

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{Ed002's Note - He would not be registered with Liverpool so it doesn't count.}


 

 

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19 Jul 2020 10:40:37
Is that Jeff Hendricks? Christ.

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15 Jul 2020 17:43:42
I was kind of thinking there could be an option of three at the back if we are so keen on someone like Carlos. Allow Robbo and Trent full freedom, the obvious three up top, and two deep lying mids, could be hendo gini or Fabinho. Gomez would suit rcb well.

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09 Aug 2020 16:45:46
Yeah I’ve never seen the Greek lad play, but it’s seems odd bringing someone in from abroad who has to acclimatise, get used to the league and the language - whereas for what seems to be a similar cost - maybe a 5 million more (pure guesswork on my behalf Ed002 before you step in ;) ) we could get a young player who has seemed to fit our mould, grounded hard working, and less of a bedding in period.

Not my call of course, but with the limited HG spaces, backup left back doesn’t strike me as a necessity.

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09 Aug 2020 13:43:48
Do you think England could do a back five of taa Gomez Maguire walker/ awb and then someone like chilwell and it will work? Seems we are so short of too quality centre backs and centre mids that this may solve it to a degree - sitting Henderson and one other in the middle - full backs have license to get forward and support Kane, rashford sterling Sancho whoever is picked.

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08 Aug 2020 00:46:32
So hypothetically we lose a cm which random player from another position would you sign? 😂 surely the fate of Carlos or Lewis has no impact from gini.

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04 Aug 2020 00:45:39
Seems strange not to want to stay, think he’s got the third most appearances last season, and I’m not sure real and Barcelona will come calling - although they did sign Paulinho.

Where else is he going to go and have as much chance as winning silverware and starting as much.

If it were me, I’d go for another 2/ 3 years then move.

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31 Jul 2020 09:58:59
What’s the replacement like do you know ed01? Name eludes me right now.

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{Ed001's Note - Hogan looks to be a much better choice.}