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27 Aug 2020 21:50:14
Ed regarding your long post - thank you for the breakdown.

You mention Barcelona have three options for the left wing spot, mane and who?

Also, you said PSG as a potential neymar replacement - is that in the future or do you see him moving this year?

I know it’s not strictly Liverpool related but I’d hate to see mane leave, so just want to weigh up the options!


{Ed002's Note - You need to take it to the relevant page where it has been addressed already.}



12 Jul 2020 22:01:17
Ed’s, I know you have mentioned about Keita not impressing overly and an expensive mistake I believe was said.

Do you think he could leave this summer?

Personally not convinced by him, I do think he has shown flashes, but it often seems like he doesn’t suit the style, he drives forward and plays a risky pass every time, even if it’s not on. I know he has played so little he needs to learn the runs and develop the chemistry a little more but I don’t see him getting there. His shots also seem wayward and weak for a player who gets chances around the edge of the box.


{Ed002's Note - I would not expect him to leave.}

1.) 12 Jul 2020 22:33:55
He s finally getting a run of games together. He hasn't been terrible. YES he needs some work defensively but he's done a lot of good things on the ball and has done some really really good pressing things. He should be fine as long as he stays fit and continues to work hard at is faults. Like all players in the squad.

If he can stay clear of injuries and works hard I have every faith he 'll be a top player for us.

Injuries are my biggest fear with him. Ability wise he is very talented. He just needs more time on the training ground and less time in the treatment room.

2.) 12 Jul 2020 23:36:54
He’s not terrible at all, he's composed on the ball and does look to create.

3.) 13 Jul 2020 09:11:31
Yes he does all that Firmane but it's the other side of his game that he really needs to improve on.

4.) 13 Jul 2020 10:07:16
Doesn’t look fit enough for me. Has one good game then goes missing again for another 4 games. Am very disappointed after look the effort and expense we put in to get him.

5.) 13 Jul 2020 11:27:21
Haven't seen enough in the 2 seasons here to convince me he will be a regular starter in that midfield.



26 Jan 2020 23:36:46
I hope we don’t just go under 23s in the replay. It’s clear matip and Lovren need games, they looked welll off the pace - it’s the perfect time for them. I said before Adrian deserves another game, as I doubt he will get another all going well. There’s a big difference between a few fringe players and the best of the young guns, versus full under 23s. If I were Elliot, Jones, Williams or chiravella I’d be hoping to get a game for one, but I’d be hoping to have the best chance of winning it. I’d want another game after it.

From the squad today, maybe leave out salah Firmio, ox, fabinho and bring in a few others - but what If shaqiri is fit by then - has barely played im sure he’d be grateful for the minutes - origi too, Minamino barely played in months before joining us.

I’m happy to give youth a fair go at it in the cups, but the word there is fair - give them a helping Hand.


1.) 27 Jan 2020 05:02:44
I agree, just keep pretty much the same players bar Fabinho in midfield, replace him with Lallana and I think we’re good. I’m sure the players would rather stay in the competition than not, it’s a highly competitive match anyway unless we just drop like we did today, at Anfield we should have more than enough to get the job done with the same team. I understand Klopp a frustration but it’s our fault we couldn’t get past a league 1 side, we knew beforehand that they do replays so it’s our fault. I hope this does inspire the FA to make the necessary changes to the FA cup and league cup, but these competitions are for the smaller clubs in England, the world can’t revolve around the big teams who have billions of pounds of investment to be able to cope with fixture congestion, it’s not right either way but it affects the clubs at the highest level and that’s like 5% of the clubs that enter the competitions in the first place. A winter break gets put in place when we haven’t had that before and still room for complaints, Klopp needs to be careful going at war with the FA, we know how corrupt they are and they might just stiff Liverpool over in the future. Klopp is known for not whining as highlighted by Mourinho last season, but that seems to be changing now that he’s at the pinnacle of football in England. Get the job done in the replay, if he fields the same team as vs Aston Villa he can do nothing about his reputation of not taking the domestic cups seriously.

2.) 27 Jan 2020 07:30:59
For the senior lads coming back from injury I think a hot weather break could be good for them, but lads like elliot, Jones, neco ect. Even origi and minamino will be knocking on his door desperate to play in that game, see how it pans out but I reckon those players would rather start a competitive game at anfield than go on holiday, could be wrong though, I don't know any of them personally.

3.) 27 Jan 2020 07:45:05
Looks like all u23s. If I was fab, Matip, lovren I'd be begging for a another chance. they've had all the rest they need and owe the kids after that performance.

4.) 27 Jan 2020 07:45:51
I agree. Matip Lovren Fabinho Minamino All looked short of being match ready especially at a higher level. Then you have the likes of Lallana Keita Milner Shaq (if fit) all need game time. Would be a shame if we ended up getting knocked out with such a good chance to go through.

5.) 27 Jan 2020 08:51:56
I agree but unfortunately some of the players may have booked breaks away etc and from what klopp is saying he dosent want to make them change plans.

6.) 27 Jan 2020 09:32:12
ed001 I thought Fabinho Matip lovren and Minamino where awful yesterday. And it did not look like they needed a week and I think after putting in a performance like that you would hope they would want to make things right am sure Henderson would. Also with Naby just coming back and my be even Milner there is a lot of player coming back that could do with the minutes to get back to full speed. ed I would like to know your thoughts on the winter break I all ways think when we have had a week off we never look the same in the first game back.

{Ed001's Note - I agree with you, the players need games to get sharp, not a winter break. If they need a rest then give them time off training. The winter break is a nonsense idea. Half the time we end up with bad weather breaking up the season at some point anyway. To work, the break needs to be longer than 2 weeks to make sense but even that is pointless as the teams who have one spend most of it doing a mini pre-season anyway.

What is needed is a proper summer break for all players, to ensure they get the chance to switch off and relax. A mid-season break does not allow the players to do so, any more than just having the games less crammed together during the season would do and teams giving the players a day or more off training every so often.}

7.) 27 Jan 2020 10:47:21
ed001 I could not agree more, to make time I think its time the carabao cup has to go, Are season start to early I feel the start of the carabao cup has something to do with that as the second round starts before most other leagues start. Then you have Klopp and all the other managers moaning, But every year the clubs travel all over the world on preseason tours. Then there is all the international tournaments that seem to be every summer now. If the carabao cup went we could bring the fa cup forward use a few of there dates for early midweek leagues Fixtures Because end of December to end of January is just to much. My be make Boxing day fixture the Fa cup 3rd round that would bring a bit of magic back to the Fa cup with it being such an iconic date for football.

{Ed001's Note - personally I don't think getting rid of the League Cup is the answer. Why that and not all those pre-season contests?}

8.) 27 Jan 2020 11:22:06
for me ed the league cup most of the time its just full of the kids who most of them will not make it and they don't expect them to make it. Even the lower league teams make changes for it. But I do think all the preseason stuff needs to go and they all so need to sort out all the international fixtures when you play 1 friendly and 1 qualifier all them silly friendly's with 11 subs just a waste of time. But I think its just Money driving the game and it just looks like instead of going the right way we are going the other way and will just end up with more games with the champions league and the club world cup getting bigger.

{Ed001's Note - the simplest way would be to remove mid-season internationals and just have two separate seasons. One for internationals and one for club competitions. Then it won't be so stop-start.}

9.) 27 Jan 2020 13:49:46
I agree with that one ed1, I'm also of the opinion to make the season shorter by cutting out internationals.
Then have a 6 week international period once the season is completed.

Its better for internationals as they can actually train together for a sustained period, the players are picked over a season rather than 10 good games. I also think people would pay more attention to them, at the minute they are seen as a needless distraction.

I do get it's not that simple as different countries run their seasons at different points due to weather etc.

As for preseason I would love it to go back to predominantly playing english teams (not prem teams) but won't happen as there is too much money in pointless pre season trophies.

{Ed001's Note - the international game is suffering because teams don't get to work together as well, so it makes no sense to continue as it is. The Brazilian World Cup team of 1970 spent months together before the tournament as a team, that is why they were so good.}

10.) 27 Jan 2020 15:29:49
I hope some day soon the international game becomes an U23 game like the Olympics (even if it is unofficial I. e. a few elite players resign setting off a chain of resignations from international football) . I can't see what elite footballers get out of playing international footy. People will still go out to watch international footy whether it be Harry Kane or Calvert Lewin.

11.) 27 Jan 2020 15:54:53
I think Eds and posters should look at what has really happened here rather than pointing the finger at Klopp and LFC. In June 2018 (no, that’s not a typo, 2018) the Premier League, the Football Association and the English Football League issued a joint announcement about a PL mid-season break to be introduced in February 2020. As part of that announcement, the FA chief executive stated :

"Today’s announcement proves that football can come together for the good of the game. We have also found a way to give the players a much needed mid-season break, whilst keeping the much-loved Christmas schedule in place. As we head into summer international tournaments in the future we are sure that this mid-season break will prove to be a valuable addition for our players. "

So the FA, fully supportive of the PL mid-season break, had 20 months to arrange the FA Cup 2019/ 20 calendar so that the mid-season break was respected. And they failed. So let’s lay off Klopp and LFC please guys.

12.) 28 Jan 2020 00:49:59
WW, i agree 100 per cent, I can't believe that some LFC fans are not fully behind Klopp and the owners,
the FA have, after nearly two years brought in this winter break, aimed at giving the players a much needed rest, and were told Not to play or arrange any matches during this period . Klopp is fully on board, he can see his players def need a break,
in fact, we usually see some injuries around the christmas period due to playing too many games close together, Vardy and Kane even Mane come to mind,
Klopp is protecting his players, believe in Klopp .

13.) 28 Jan 2020 02:31:47
Get League cup and FA cup replays sloshed. Play the 1 game and decide winner. now I would debate the venue to be pre fixed either as lower ranked team venue so they get sort of home adv or the higher placed venue so that they earn some cash.

Scrap international friendlies mid season. So this reduces the season by few weeks.

Arrange the NFL games and euro qualifiers during summer.

14.) 30 Jan 2020 23:09:20
Yeah, the FA replay games need to go. That will help.

Play full 90 and then straight to penalties. Scrap this replay nonsense.



17 Aug 2018 23:48:46
Ed002 a question for you if I may - and bear In mind I may be getting things mixed up here.
You can sign ‘unatttached’ players any time right?
I remember you explaining something about buy out or release clauses (can’t rememvwr which) while back, where the club theoretically pays the player to pay his own clause, therefore buying him out his contract.
I’m not trying to find ways to break the rules - just curious - but if a player buys himself out his contract, he is effectively a free agent right?
What stops a club doing this outside the transfer window?


{Ed002's Note - A player who makes himself a free agent outside of a transfer window cannot be signed by another club until the next transfer window as the rules specifically require him to be a free agent before the previous transfer window closes - hence the reason why Claudio Marchisio left Juventus yesterday whilst the transfer window was still open and not today. Clubs can also only pay a player to release himself from his contract in Spain, else the money is taxable so it would be necessary to pay double.}

1.) 18 Aug 2018 10:29:24
Ah so no English team can take Marchisio as he wasn’t a free in their window?
Thanks for the reply, informative as always!

{Ed002's Note - That is not what I said.}

2.) 18 Aug 2018 11:37:05
Cracking question then Firmane and again great insight in the answer Ed002. Been following football for 36 years yet every days a school day on here.

3.) 19 Aug 2018 00:23:15
Indeed, JK23.

4.) 19 Aug 2018 08:51:46
Isn’t it more about player registration. There are 2 deadline a years, at the end of each window for players to be registered with the FA. If they are not registered by this date they cannot play for the club until the next registration window is open. The only except is free agents, who if they were a free agent at the registration deadline, they can sign and register for a club.

{Ed002's Note - No, it is as I said. It depends when he becomes a free agent. If, for example, Lazar Markovic were to come to agreement with Liverpool of October 1 that they were to end their relationship and he were to become a free agent, he cannot sign with Olympiakos until January 1 when the Greek transfer window opens. However, should Lazio decide they wish to sign Ross Turnbull, they can do so now as he was a free agent during the previous transfer window.}

5.) 19 Aug 2018 11:49:52
That is where I’m getting mixed up Ed, why can marchisio sign for English team of our window is shut, yes Markovic can’t sign for an English team? What am I missing lol.

{Ed002's Note - One is a free agent and one is contracted to Liverpool and can only be loaned.}

6.) 19 Aug 2018 20:19:44
Sorry ed, I meant in your example if Liverpool decided to end their relationship?

{Ed002's Note - He would not have been available when the transfer window was open. There is no way for Liverpool to cheat here. It is all perfectly clear.}

7.) 20 Aug 2018 00:43:42
Yet again a conspiracy against us! Not allowing us to cheat 😡.

8.) 20 Aug 2018 11:19:35
Thats a good move for Turnbull, but I hope he realises its like a foreign country over there!



13 May 2018 22:26:56
We have Keita coming and are linked with another cm. We are losing can. We have been saying for seasons we lack that bite in midfield and maybe Keita adds that, but something noticeable for me, against city and against Roma in the first legs, hendo, Milner, gini or Ox won 80% of lose balls, headers and 50/50s which WA Skye to our quick turnovers and counters for me.

I hope we don't lose that, and if we do sign another cm, I obviously hope they are a good footballer first, and suits our style, but can't help but think that physical edge would be great.
I know we have been loosely linked with Jorginho, but I don't believe he really offers that.
Are we linked with any who do?


1.) 14 May 2018 10:08:47
Do you honestly believe that Klopp would sign a midfielder who wasn't a good footballer or didn't suit our style?
Or couldn't stand up to the hurly burly of the Premiership?

2.) 14 May 2018 11:54:17
He DID sign Steven Caulker on loan at one point. lol.

3.) 14 May 2018 14:03:21
I propose a ban on the mentioning of Caulker on this site, Klopp has had an excellent record in the transfer window for us but every time someone mentions it, someone says caulker.

4.) 14 May 2018 15:16:11
Reynard, he signed him based on the opinion of someone within the club. He decided to trust this persons view and then learnt from it. That is entirely different to his view when signing a player.

5.) 14 May 2018 20:28:02
Loosen up, it's a joke (hence the "lol") . sad lack of humour on here sometimes.




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01 Oct 2023 08:35:08
I know I’m a Liverpool fan, so may be bias - and I tried to sleep on it - but that has to be one of the worst refereeing showings I’ve ever seen. For me, it makes me think what’s the point. What’s the point when no matter if you play well or not, the refs came just make up what they want. Jones red, on a still frame it’s a red, but anyone who has played shows it’s pure accident - but VAR show the ref the still. Could still be a red, but it’s very harsh, and a decision that could have gone either way. The Diaz goal though, as soon as I saw the still, I celebrated, as could tell it was on. I have no idea how they missed it - how can a human error be not bothering to check it?

I’m fairly certain Gakpo should have had a pen too, because I didn’t see any touch on the ball from the spurs defender. Even down to their players gesturing for a card to jota - earlier this season everyone was getting booked for that - but no, not today.

It’s hard, as I know if Diaz goal goes in, the game changes. We could have scored again, but so could have they. But how can so much be favouring one side in one game.




27 Aug 2023 22:11:41
Buzzing for Darwin, what an excellent couple of finishes. Hope klopp rewards him with a start through the middle next week. We were poor today, but defended well with 10 and no Virgil. Only gave away a couple of chances, mainly to Almiron, but otherwise kept them quiet enough considering. We really need that midfield presence, Newcastle had it far too easy at the start. Like many years, feel we’re a couple short of a great squad. Not even sure we need more CBs would rather just go back to 433.


1.) 27 Aug 2023 22:32:59
Firmane, how do you make that we were poor today? The game was pretty even, IMO and I also disagree cos we made the faster and brighter as well as having the first real chance with Diaz, I think. Then, Trent's howler messed us up and it goes downhill from there.

Also, how were we poor when we were the better side overall in the second half were we played better with 10 men than Newcastle did with 11 and finished the game a lot stronger than they did physically, esp.? You said it yourself that apart from Almiron, we kept them quiet. Sorry, Im not having that. Apart from that, very good post, man.

2.) 27 Aug 2023 22:33:03
I agree with that Firmane. Also a shout to Klopp who earned his money again today. We’ve been critical at times for his subs but Nunez, Jota n Harvey changed the game at the right time.

3.) 27 Aug 2023 22:51:43
Ofcourse we were poor. We looked rattled early on. We went behind due to extremely poor play. And then we went down to 10 men due to poor decision making and tackling by virgil. Alisson made his most ever saves in a game for us I'm not sure how you can perceive that as keeping them quiet? We were v v lucky to get away with 3 points today. 2 superb finishes by nunez. I think Newcastle and the crowd seemed to think the game was won at 1-0 11 against 10 and didn't go for the jugular and if you don't kill us off then we have the players in attack to create a chance. 2 games in a row now we've gone behind and down to 10 men and managed to dig ourselves out of it. Today's result was a miracle really how many much easier chances have we seen nunez miss than that and he manages 2 perfect strikes. Could be a massive moment in the season to get away with 3 points there in that manner and I hope it lights a fire up us because if we keep starting games like we did today some teams will put us to the sword.

4.) 27 Aug 2023 22:59:48
For me, I can't read too much into how we start a game away from home at a top team, or any team for that matter. Home teams should be up for it and sometimes we just have to weather it and then get our foot into the game. sometimes we might start better. It's a 90min game and I think we need to rid ourselves of the idea that the standard is 90minutes of dominance.

Awesome all round. very mature and resilient in the second half to give ourselves a chance at the back end of the game.

5.) 27 Aug 2023 23:02:13
I thought Newcastle pressed very well in the first half but would struggle to maintain that for the whole game. That’s pretty much how it played out even with us being down to 10. Amazing result playing with 10 men for so long!

6.) 27 Aug 2023 23:02:59
I think we did very well to stay in the game considering we only had 10 men, and i think that showed maturity knowing that we may get chances as the game went on if we kept it to 1-0.

Do I think we played well? No, but I thought we made the most of a bad situation and took our chances when they came.

Few things which I found encouraging
1. DS and AM have got clear quality and improve kit side. They will be good signings.
2. Nunez showed everything you want from a player that’s been out the team. Great attitude and really pleased for him
3. Quansah have a good account of himself coming on. Gomez also did well baring the Almiron chance where I felt he allowed him to come inside too easy and shoot which was almost a goal, hitting the post
4. Alisson - god we are so lucky to have this man. Incredible player and leader
5. Trent found his feet as the game went on. Got the last laugh in the end with the win and wiped the smirk off Anthony Gordon’s face.

7.) 27 Aug 2023 23:39:03
I thought we played well considering we had 10 men. The gameplay was always to try to keep it at 1-0 and nick something (the 2nd goal was a great bonus prize)

8.) 28 Aug 2023 00:42:12
I thought Endo played well too tbh.

9.) 28 Aug 2023 01:06:41
Redwills, I disagree. It took some freaking guts to get back in the game let alone get the win. If you think we were better than Newcastle were with 10 men thru out the second half and that it did not involve some great coaching and man management from Klopp and bravery from all those players including the kid Quansah then, you are off your rocker.

"Oh, they didn't go for the jugular" or "Today's result was a miracle". Absolute rubbish. Are you blind? They did go for the jugular BUT we shut them down each time by occupying the defensive spaces well and not getting caught out as a group. That's no miracle. That's down to management and good coaching and players executing the game plan. Miracles? You're reaching here, bro.

You also think Darwin was lucky with his finishes? Those finishes were absolutely sublime. Shearer said the first one was not even a chance and he executeded it to perfection. Yeah, I guess we were lucky with that too. You know why? Cos we freaking earned that ship by working our butts off. Yeah if that is what you call luck then, I agree. Give the team their flowers for pulling out a win from the jaws of defeat rather than working your butt off to slam them.

Oh and the Gomez you wanted gone, how was he today? He is still here and played a minor blinder today helping Quansah next to him. Not saying he has turned the corner but since you don't miss an oppo. to go after him, you should give him his flowers on this perf., at least.

10.) 28 Aug 2023 01:45:37
Felt so good after the game. But I disagree Nunez should start. I'll stick with Gakpo to start up front.

Nunez and Jota look so good when come in as subtitutes.

The defense looked more solid after VVD sent off, coz after the send-off TAA no longer allowed to move into the middle.

11.) 28 Aug 2023 04:14:51
Isn't it great that we have five forwards who each have a decent shout of starting? We're spoilt for choice and long may it continue.

12.) 28 Aug 2023 07:08:28
Once again I am not 'off my rocker' and you should watch your language I am also not blind. I have to question if you even watched the game? Your statement that we kept them quiet and were the better team is wildly inaccurate. They were keot quiet? but alisson made a record number of saves? That is very suspicious. Newcastle had more than twice as many chances as us. Twice as many shots, twice as many shots on target and hit the post.
I'd like the great coaching to start when we have 11 vs 11 and to look the better team then.
Darwins finishes were great yes. Superb finishes. Two shots two superb finishes. I'm over the moon with them but I'm also aware that he has never done that before and it was a miracle like substitute performance that got us out of trouble and has papered over the cracks and allowed fans like you to pretend we deserved to win.
Not actually sure I've said I want gomez gone but you go putting words in my mouth again. I've said I think he should only play rb and he has been nowhere near his best for around 2 years now. What I said was that I didn't think matip or gomez could adequately cover konates position In this new system and I don't think I'm wrong. We may have to start gomez and matip for the next 3 games and I can't say that doesn't worry me a bit. I hope they play great and we keep a clean sheet for once but I'm allowed to express my doubts. Hopefully klopp can turn me from a doubter in to a believer again but your absolute waffle won't.



19 Aug 2023 19:01:48
This might not be the forum for this, but is anyone else getting a little exasperated with football right now? Just seems it’s lost it’s way a bit for me. Things like VAR being useless, or terribly applied at least. Makes it more annoying when a decision is wrong when it’s viewed by a team of people, who all have to make a judgement call, than just mistakes being made in real time on the pitch. Things like the insane amounts of money involved and the powerful just bullying and buying up any decent player in the league (us included in that) . And just the general way the whole game seems to be moving further and further away from the fans, being less accessible with huge tv bills, for average punditry from those who don’t analyse just want to be heard giving controversial opinions. I love Liverpool, and love football, but find myself watching less and less and caring less and less the longer this goes on.


1.) 19 Aug 2023 19:19:42
That's the paradox isn't it?
Football has grown, and become largely funded, by television and that's how most of us consume the game.
It's analysis paralysis to me, and the further paradox is that social media and sites like this are part of the problem, the drive for perfection.
The perfect team, the error free defence, the manager that gets everything right all of the time.
Television drove the introduction of VAR.
But it's like chasing the rainbow's end, the perfect human doesn't exist.

{Ed025's Note - you have never met me juicer.. :)

2.) 19 Aug 2023 19:32:30
I agree juicer, they keep making changes to ‘improve the game’ but not sure which changes over the years have made positive changes for the fans.

3.) 19 Aug 2023 19:45:41
You can't be perfect Ed25, you support Everton. That just makes you delusional ?.

{Ed025's Note - perfection is in the eye of the beholder JLCBM, im good looking, rich , played sport at a pretty high level, married a gorgeous lady...and im hung like a donkey, when you have that it doesn,t matter who you support mate.. :)

4.) 19 Aug 2023 20:20:44
Ed025, you never cease to make me laugh and you’re still my favourite Everton fan.

{Ed025's Note - cheers victor.. im only here to lift the gloom mate.. :)

5.) 19 Aug 2023 20:28:56
Ah well delusional 25.

{Ed025's Note - some would call it gifted ALF.. :)

6.) 19 Aug 2023 22:24:16
Firmane, don't get so exasperated, man, it's not worth it. It's just change. Always happened, is happening and will always happen. And no way to avoid it. ?.

7.) 20 Aug 2023 00:39:02
I’m feeling similar to yourself Firmane. Acctually quite bored of football at the minute and I wish I could distance myself more from the ‘drama’ the media create for us to lap up but unfortunately I’m completly addicted to Liverpool. I find it hard to avoid even though all it does is frustrate me!

Spent a lot of time over the last few months watching the GAA back home. Now there’s a proper sport.

8.) 20 Aug 2023 00:51:25
Brilliant ed ?????.

9.) 20 Aug 2023 07:01:30
Classic Ed25.what would this site be without you

As long as you think so mate, who are we to argue

As long as you keep making us laugh, that's all that counts in my eyes

Have a great Sunday mate, and yes, I'll be shouting for the blue half of the Mersey today mate. Up the LFC wannabees. I mean Toffees!

{Ed025's Note - cheers JLCBM, i will be watching the lioness,s mate followed by the big girls blouses in blue, have a great day yourself my friend..



10 Aug 2023 15:45:09
It’s the hope that kills you. Almost tempted to stop reading all these rumours. Lavia and caceido would be amazing and sort us for years with the players coming through and who we have. I know it won’t happen, I reckon lavia will alone mind. Caceido is just different gravy. Still would need a lcb to be top level, but that would be the most complete squad we have had i believe.


1.) 10 Aug 2023 15:58:46
Firmane sadly neither happening.

2.) 10 Aug 2023 16:31:18
Dare to dream is a bad name for you.

3.) 10 Aug 2023 16:50:31
I wonder what will come first, Klopps resignation or the likes of Alisson etc expressing their wish to Leave.

4.) 10 Aug 2023 16:58:57
Really wish people would stop stating opinion as if it's fact.

5.) 10 Aug 2023 17:15:49
Ya maybe you should change your name daretodream to something more miserable where you have zero faith?

6.) 10 Aug 2023 18:53:23
DaretoNightmare? ?.

7.) 10 Aug 2023 20:05:24

8.) 10 Aug 2023 22:31:27

9.) 11 Aug 2023 07:41:30
To the tune of Faithless Insomnia




07 Aug 2023 21:29:37
Anyone watch the game? Judging by the team it was very attacking, I assume midfield three of szobo mac and Gakpo?


1.) 07 Aug 2023 22:12:25
Yup. That’s pretty much it mate. Everything went through Mac. The other two weren’t really in the game it kind of passed them by.
Trent early on playing in the Inverted Nipple role. Didn’t really work again. Konate all over the place positionally. VVD silent. Robbo doesn’t really know what he’s doing.

Front three chased and harassed early, but after 15 mins it went stale. Those 3 did okay though I suppose and grabbed a goal each.

The second string later on in the game came on and some things up playing some decent stuff. Doak was impressive again.

2.) 07 Aug 2023 22:12:36
I was there. Same old story from the preseason. Good going forward but crap at the back.

Macallister was the man of the match for me, had a very good game. Dias and salah looked lively too.

Szoboszlai has got a very good corner kick in him. Scored 2 with the only 2 he took I think

Doak looked lively when he came on too

I worry though that we’ll see plenty more of the type of goal we conceded this season. Ball over the top and the opposition one on one.

3.) 07 Aug 2023 22:39:38
Wide open at the back again, Trent getting a talking to from a number of players and generally not doing much with Mac running the show.
If we line out like this in the league God help us.

4.) 07 Aug 2023 23:24:17
Pre season done and now onto a brand new season.

No idea why but we’ve really found Chelsea a difficult opponent the last few seasons in normal time.

After last seasons start I think it’s key to get this season off and running with 3 points.

5.) 07 Aug 2023 23:32:44
Inverted nipple role?

6.) 07 Aug 2023 23:53:08
Yes firmane. It’s sort of like the inverted fullback. But keep losing the ball to players in the 4th tier of German semi professional football like a bit of a nipple.

7.) 08 Aug 2023 00:00:03
The defence really looks so exposed at times, biggest issue in my kind is how easy it makes it for opposition to get at us. Combination of ill-suited personnel and bad strategy will make life very difficult. Some of the teams we’ve played are hardly world class yet they’ve caused defensive problems for us. I’m just waiting for the day Klopp stops the hybrid role as we will see a semblance of defensive structure and balance when he does.

8.) 08 Aug 2023 00:28:02
Is there any chance we play 433 or is that now gone do people think?

9.) 08 Aug 2023 00:39:17
If we were a haircut, we’d be a mullet, good up top but absolutely shocking at the back.

10.) 08 Aug 2023 04:51:14
Some takeaways for me from the game:
1. McAllister was boss
2. Diaz is great in tough games - can create something every time he gets the ball, same as doak but with better end product
3. Gakpo will need some more settling in the midfield role and I hope he doesn’t have to play there too much given how strong he is in attack
4. Jota looking so sharp in pre season
5. VVD needs more time to grow into his new role.
6. Trent feels disinterested when without the ball - not sure if that is because the role is too demanding or if he doesn’t like it
7. Szobo is boss with set pieces, but lost the ball a few times because he expected to have more time on the ball. I did not notice this in the previous games so not sure if it was one game or something he will have to get more used to
8. Ben Doak is a fantastic talent. Needs to improve end product but I feel he has the decision making and the vision, the execution will come in time
9. Darwin Nunez doesn't still feel like a £40M striker (let alone 80M) . He really needs things to click a little better to give him a confidence boost - for that he needs a run of games, and that will only happen in the cups or if there is an injury. I feel like he is much better cutting in from left, so maybe we use Jota andGakpo as strikers and Darwin behind Diaz.

11.) 08 Aug 2023 05:21:33
VV, funny you mention haircuts - the thought that came into my mind reading the post match assessments above was ‘rinse, repeat’.




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13 Nov 2023 08:28:01
Oh no, not another 20 year old playing well for us.




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27 Aug 2023 00:30:07
Isn’t everyone either a hit or a miss basically?




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16 Aug 2023 21:48:53
Why the negativity? Has he pulled on a shirt for us yet? It’s depth in an area we have none, and I’m sure it’s part of a wider plan. We needed some experience there, a holder, a ball winner and he’s that. I for one would much rather him than amrabat. We needed two in my opinion, so at least one is seemingly on the way, and I don’t see anything to be disappointed about.




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16 Aug 2023 20:27:20
I’ve seen him at the wc and the final versus West Ham. I think he’s a passion merchant. Can raise his game for big moments, I’m not sure he’s a patient player who can be disciplined and spring into life once we lose the ball. Probably better than no one, but I get the sense he’s either right on the edge, or not up for it enough.




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11 Aug 2023 22:53:09
We need a dm to come in, and be ready to start immediately. Not sure who that is.





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16 Nov 2023 08:55:11
Thanks Ed, I see what you mean, so he’s instinctively very good, but not necessarily tied to the football brain. Glad to hear he’s putting the shift in, I’m sure klopp will be happy. Stuff to work on, but it’s always good to have someone with the knack of putting the ball in the net.


{Ed001's Note - that's what I think anyway. I think the work he is doing on his coaching badges should help improve him a lot as a player as he will gain more tactical understanding. Then the game should come more naturally.}



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15 Nov 2023 08:29:57
Interesting take on jota ed, I always put down jota the opposite - excellent football brain, just not quite the ability to do it. Always finds a space, can beat a player, and finish well, but as you said, sometimes just ends up tripping himself or taking a wayward touch or pass. Either way, must be a nightmare to play against, thinking you got him twigged but he scores anyway!


{Ed001's Note - I did think that way at first, but after watching the way he is always so slow defensively, always a delayed reaction and letting his man go or being a step or two behind the rest on a press, I think it is the opposite. The ability is there and when he is just doing, rather than thinking, he does great things, but when he has to think about it he trips up or passes to no one. That would explain why he was so good for Wolves, as he was given more freedom to just go and play off the cuff and not worry about what his teammates were doing.

Certainly there is no issue with his effort, he is defo trying, so it is not laziness that is catching him out. And he does extra work in training too, I mean this international break he will stay behind after training to work with Cristiano Ronaldo on his leap, for example. He does that every international break, which is why he is so good in the air. So clearly he is putting in the work.}



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03 Sep 2023 23:50:09
I just hope he’s given a run of konate is still out or not. Confidence seems a huge thing with joe, and if you take your chance, you should be rewarded for that - like Nunez was.




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25 Aug 2023 00:10:51
Can anyone work out the criteria for this list?




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19 Aug 2023 19:32:30
I agree juicer, they keep making changes to ‘improve the game’ but not sure which changes over the years have made positive changes for the fans.




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