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19 Jul 2021 16:27:37
So we don't want to give hendo a contract now. If i say something on this, with regards to the american ownership, id be termed xenophobic.
This shouldn't even have been news. Hendo doesn't even need to ask for it, he deserves whatever deal he wants and am pretty sure he isn't asking for the moon and stars.


{Ed025's Note - he still has 2 years to go Akira so there is no rush, he will be at liverpool for a good while yet mate..

1.) 19 Jul 2021 17:08:58
Well maybe go read first, no one is saying we don't want to give hendo a contract, talks started awhile ago and no conclusion yet, he's still 2 years left on his current deal so there's also no rush. Nowhere has any report said we don't want to give him a contract. Not like Liverpool fans to jump the gun or have no patience now is it. holy christ.

2.) 19 Jul 2021 17:10:07
Or maybe FSG aren't the ones who decide whether or not to hand out new contracts to the players? The owners have done plenty wrong in there time here but these baseless digs feel more like you wanting to have a go at the ownership instead of any substantial criticism.

3.) 19 Jul 2021 17:14:11
Have you read the article? It's speculative fluff with loads of 'coulds' and 'possibles' in it and parallels drawn to Wijnaldum (despite the fact that Hendo already has a contract until he's 33 whilst Gini's ended when he was 30.Suggesting the club views Hendo differently) .

If you joined the #FSGout crowd on Twitter over this, I wouldn't accuse you of being xenophobic, I'd accuse you of being a twit.

Plenty of things with which to take issue with FSG without going at them over absolutely nothing.

4.) 19 Jul 2021 17:25:15
I posted about these earlier and I said I love Henderson I hope he stays as long as possible but I don’t think we should offer him a contract these summer we should see how he goes over the next 18 months. Last season Henderson was injured for 12 weeks and the season before 10 weeks and if this carries on it would be very silly of the club to give him a longer contract and tie up wage budget on a player as he enters the final part of his career and starts to miss more than he plays. The club needs to be run with a head and not a heart Bob paisley was very ruthless in that way and that’s what kept us at the top and Fergy was the same at Utd.

{Ed025's Note - i think hes important in the dressing room grino and even when he finishes i expect him to still be part of the furniture mate, he could still play on past his contract on a lower wage or even pay as you play basis, there are options i feel..

5.) 19 Jul 2021 17:27:53
It's comical how people can interpret an article like that into sold fact that is definitely happening.
Even after all the years of people acknowledging crap on Tw@tter and clickbait sites, they're still gullible enough to believe the crap they read.

6.) 19 Jul 2021 17:31:09
Loyalty is over rated. IF Hendo can carry on like Milner the sure, and if not, in two years time perhaps he can make his long awaited move to Fulham.

7.) 19 Jul 2021 17:33:17
Don't get all jumpy on this news. It's probably sensationalised to get attention. If we can keep Milner who is 35, I'm pretty sure we can keep Hendo if his demands are reasonable. So, I'm confident we'll get things sorted out in the near future.

8.) 19 Jul 2021 17:36:54
Please read the other posts (both Rumours and Banter) about this, Harry.

9.) 19 Jul 2021 19:18:43
If true, isn’t this a dream come true for you mr. sideways Henderson!

10.) 19 Jul 2021 19:20:25
I agree how important he is ed025 I hope he stays fit and in the team am just saying with his injury record there is no rush to renew his contract. Let him carry on with his contract for at least this season to check his injuries out if he stays fit most of the season then give him a new deal but if he keeps getting long injuries then some sort of pay as you play deal can be sorted out if not let him play his final year out at let him have a free transfer to get a good deal somewhere else but missing 10 and 12 weeks a season is to much if it carries on.
We could have sold Origi after the champions league victory and got a good fee for him more than what he was worth as his value had gone up after a few important goals but instead we ran the club with are heart and give him a new contract and he has hardly played his value has gone down by at least half.

11.) 19 Jul 2021 18:12:52
If Liverpool were reluctant to give Gini Wijnaldum a big new deal, and he played every single game, it’s not a huge shock that they’re in a similar boat with an often-injured Jordan Henderson.

12.) 19 Jul 2021 20:16:33
Plus Henderson is only on £140k/ w. It’ll likely be one of his last contracts and he could probs get double if not a bit more elsewhere.

13.) 19 Jul 2021 20:42:16
It’s Klopp who didn’t want to keep Gini.

14.) 19 Jul 2021 21:19:00
@fuser, Hendo would not get £300k a week somewhere else. He's got 2 years left on his contract, he's not a free transfer where clubs pay higher wages as they don't have to pay a transfer fee.

@markp, Klopp wanted to keep Gini, 100%.

15.) 19 Jul 2021 22:17:09
Sean, Klopp tried to sell Gini 2 years ago. If Klopp wanted Gini he would have stayed.

16.) 19 Jul 2021 18:11:38
If we are signing 5 of our best players to contracts leading them into age 33-34
We are hoping for more than a little luck

5 players + a 35 year old Henderson on > £10m a year contracts

Peak title winning age is 27-28.

{Ed025's Note - age is just a number spaceman, these days players, even the more experienced ones are as fit as butchers dogs mate..

17.) 20 Jul 2021 07:05:55
@seanireland, Henderson is definitely in the same bracket of player as Kante/ Saul etc and they are and have been for years on contracts of 300k. Hendo’s age is now against him slightly but you can’t say if Utd/ PSG/ Real/ etc signed him tomorrow he wouldn’t be on 200-250 at least.

18.) 21 Jul 2021 20:33:57
@fuser, you said double £140k or more in your post. Now you are dropping to a more realistic £200k which is fair enough, I could definitely see that.

@markp, in my opinion Klopp really liked Gini and wanted to keep him. I believe he understood the clubs reluctance to commit to a big wage and a long-term contract from a business sense but I think he would have preferred to have kept him. In terms of trying to sell him 2 years ago I presume that's Keita replacing him - Gini played almost every minute the season just gone and Keita was barely used when available.



18 Jul 2021 07:34:40
Some sources are saying madrid have enquired about vvd and have been given a straight no by liverpool.
Also a lazio are looking at keita on loan.


1.) 18 Jul 2021 09:43:19
It’s either cash or hit the road for Keita, if we loan him he’ll turn into the new Markovic.

2.) 18 Jul 2021 11:52:50
It will beVery difficult to sell him though, without a huge loss. He has 3 years on his contract and if we loan him and it works out for him A) he gets his playing time which i doubt he will with us. B) we can sell him on comparatively less loss.
In current climate i don't see anyone bidding for him.

3.) 18 Jul 2021 11:58:49
I can't see there being a single team on the planet would honestly believe they could prise Van Dijk away from Liverpool at this moment.
Clickbait, and folks will always fall for it.

4.) 18 Jul 2021 12:52:53
I'd be very open to a Keita loan. The player has confidence and training issues. I'd like to see if those can be worked out some before resorting to moving him at a huge financial loss.

5.) 18 Jul 2021 13:24:03
VVD, like Salah and Mane may want one last big move, and so it is not beyond the realms of possibility that he could leave in the next year or so. The wheels keep turning no matter who comes and goes. That is until Klopp leaves and we end up with a manager half as good as he is.

6.) 18 Jul 2021 13:40:45
Keita has been a disappointment and i know he's not popular on here but were too light in that position and he still too good and will be needed too much this season to be simply loaned out. i think he'll be here next season because no one is going to offer us enough to be tempted into selling him.

7.) 18 Jul 2021 13:58:29
I reckon Naby gets one more season, but competing with whoever we bring in, and down the pecking order. If that does not motivate him to try harder, then he is accepting that his future lies in a mid table side as a nearly man. This is why it is imperative that we buy a starter for MF.

8.) 18 Jul 2021 16:01:41
Sell him, take a hit, better that than the farcical situations we had with Markovic and Bert Water where they came in in big money, did nothing and went on pointless loans which came to nothing, get rid, the man is a waste of space.

9.) 18 Jul 2021 19:49:43
Recent experience (Markovic, Grujic, Wilson etc etc) has shown us that Edwards will go into an endless series of loans rather than sell below his perceived value of players or lack of buyers. True, the economic environment has changed drastically, and I expect him to adjust his prices downwards, but still not sell if the lower prices are not achieved. Anything is possible. Keita could end up on loan or Edwards could pull a rabbit out of the hat once again. To me Keita is more like a nuisance that is distracting from development of players like Thiago, Curtis Jones, and Ox. Also a distraction if you consider potential incomings like Saul Niguez, Renato Sanchez or whoever else is going to come in.



03 Jul 2021 17:51:48
We have moved on grabara to fc copenhagen on a 3m fee. Good luck to the lad.


1.) 03 Jul 2021 18:42:00
3million for him, 1.3 for millar. I reckon only another 50 to 60 reserve players to be sold and then Mbappe is in the bag.




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01 Aug 2021 17:30:47
I mean people are ready to sign bowen but hate it out here on traore and sarr.
And then they throw out stats and when some one counters stats don't matter.
Please get over the english syndrome. Bowen offers nothing over sarr and traore.
I would agree we shouldn't be signing any one of them.


{Ed077's Note - except being homegrown I guess}

1.) 01 Aug 2021 18:25:26
Look man, Traore is an exciting player and for sure his direct play makes teams panic and creates space for others. But Bowen scored more goals in 38 games last season (8) than Traore has in 140 Premier League games (7).

I'll support who ever we sign when they pull on that shirt but the very reason sites like this exist is to debate transfers. We're all guilty of climbing onto the high horse from time to time, because none of us shy away from an honest opinion of our own.

I don't agree with people saying Traore is an awful player. He clearly isn't and his pace can take teams apart. If we signed him just to batter Man City twice a season it might arguably be worth it. Not many teams are going to come out and try and press high against us though so i have what i consider to be fair doubts about how good he would be for us. Looks like Klopp is keen though so hopefully we can celebrate me eating humble pie next May.

2.) 01 Aug 2021 18:33:18
There’s two things that Bowen offers over Trader, He scores goals and actually sets them up.

There’s two things Bowen has over Sarr, that he’s not going to AFCON in January/ Feb, we don’t have to attempt to negotiate with an owner who is out to rinse us.

Personally I’d rather we spent whatever we have left on a top class midfielder like Saul as we’ve loads of options going forward, but a lack of quality beyond our starting three midfielders.

{Ed0666's Note - I think Sarr would thrive under Klopp and he’s good mates with mane which could give Sadio which would help with camaraderie

3.) 01 Aug 2021 18:45:18
Why is everyone panicking or getting worked up about 3 players Liverpool are not even signing! It’s crazy
Players are always linked to Liverpool
You guys are funny … relax and only complain at the end of the window when nothing happens.

4.) 01 Aug 2021 19:09:27
Ed0666, I’d see Sarr as a possible replacement for Mane, but as back up, it makes no sense as he’s going to be away at the AFCON at the same time as Mane and certainly he’s no replacement for Salah as he doesn’t look like he’s got 20+ goals in him.

{Ed0666's Note - From what I gather the Liverpool
Players that go only miss 2 or possibly 3 league games while participating in the AFCON. I also believe with better players around him he would become better and improve his goal ratio and chances he creates. Can play across the front line and has pace to burn.

5.) 01 Aug 2021 20:22:49
Personally, I would take Sarr over Traore and Bowen any day. Trailer is pure dross with Usain Bolt type speed. All the massaging of his stats and ability will not change what many of our eyes are seeing and have been seeing.

As for Bowen, same applies. The kid isn’t good enuff for us and don’t care about his stats either. I trust what I see and there ain’t that much there, IMO. I would rather give Taki his opportunities, keep the 35m we would be overpaying for him with and get Sarr or even the brilliant Raphinha, as someone said already. Just my opinion.

6.) 01 Aug 2021 20:46:49
Ed0666, my only reservation is having three forwards away at the AFCON. But, you do make a reasonable point that he does create chances, he does score goals, he’s got pace to burn, he’s a big physically imposing lad who clearly is on an upward trajectory, I’ve only read positive things about how he conducts himself and he’s very well liked at Watford, if only we’d not p. ed their owner off….

{Ed0666's Note - one thing I know about most businessmen is they put money over ideals. Hopefully there’s not to much bad blood there and we can tease Rudy a deal for sarr as I think the lads got something about him. Like you ideally I’d like bissouma and Raphina. Bissouma and sarr wouldn’t be shabby but bissouma and Bowen isn’t exactly the booby prize. The common denominator is bissouma!!!

7.) 01 Aug 2021 21:15:19
We are not getting Bisoumma lads. No chance.

8.) 01 Aug 2021 21:36:39
Yep, Ed. I can’t disagree with you there.

9.) 01 Aug 2021 21:38:21
Ed0666 this camaraderie you mentioned, is he the Italian boy?

{Ed0666's Note - touche Chris. Where have you been mate it’s been a while?

10.) 01 Aug 2021 21:56:13
Keeping busy Ed and trying to stay out of trouble.

{Ed0666's Note - so you’re married then 😂

11.) 01 Aug 2021 22:36:22
I remember that camaraderie joke from Only Fools and Horses, School Reunion episode. Have to start calling you Trigger, Chris.

12.) 01 Aug 2021 23:28:40
Ah Chris me old china good to have you back. I need someone fresh too bounce off, the Ed's are getting a tad stale😃.



24 Jul 2021 12:58:50
Saul has worn 28 17 and 8 for athletico. Guess who has worn same for liverpool.
Destiny I kid you not. Its a move made for us.


{Ed002's Note - I would not hold your breath.}

1.) 24 Jul 2021 13:11:31
I can’t tell if Akira is joking?!

2.) 24 Jul 2021 13:13:53
Noooooooooooo ed002. Well that ends it. 🥲🥲
Would certainly have been a dream signing. Are we looking at any midfielder at all ed? Bissouma also seems out of our reach.

{Ed002's Note - Yes.}

3.) 24 Jul 2021 15:09:09
Ed our options and targets seem to be dwindling away either signing elsewhere or financially out of reach. Anyone new we are looking at?

{Ed002's Note - I am sure Liverpool will try to avoid buying for the sake of it.}

4.) 24 Jul 2021 18:12:23
Options and targets seem to be dwindling only because it's becoming clear that nobody is really sure what the club's plan is, and all the media can do is keep recycling the same crap with a smaller pool of names to choose from as players sign for other clubs.
The club will be completely aware of what they need and will be working on that and a budget. Just because the club isn't buying the players that fans want or the media claim they are doesn't mean they aren't busy in the background.

{Ed0666's Note - what he said

5.) 24 Jul 2021 19:54:29
Well said Flash. It's as if people think the club go into the summer thinking they will sign mbapppe and Saul on the cheap and when they found out otherwise have been crying at a table tearing their hair out. Actually sounds like some on this site.

6.) 24 Jul 2021 20:51:30
We will sign pedri and that’s all for this window.

7.) 24 Jul 2021 21:51:03
Spot on, Flash. This happens every summer yet fans lose their marbles each time it happens. For me, not bothered. The media have NO info being leaked to them by anyone at the club and we no longer do our business in public so the fans are in the dark and so is the media and they hate it. With some if the links the media come up with, you can literally taste their desperation. Long may it continue🍻🥂.



20 Jul 2021 06:50:18
Hi 666. Not going to side with you on the hendo thing. I agree the business sense you bring into the debate. But some players are just beyond business sense.
Yes i don't was us to be in a griezmann or messi type situation. But i doubt hendo is asking for that amounts of money.


{Ed0666's Note - it’s not the money mate it’s how much use he would be to us at 35 and playing infrequently. I love the guy but the older he gets the less he’ll play.

1.) 20 Jul 2021 19:41:15
Maybe they are looking for him to step into Klopps shoes in 2024? All a bit weird to me.

2.) 20 Jul 2021 21:07:10
I made the exact same argument to a pudding online earlier today Ed0666 and got told told I can’t be a true Liverpool fan 😂
The guy has to go down as a Liverpool legend in my opinion but age and injuries are against him unfortunately.

{Ed0666's Note - Salah, Mane and Bobby are nearly all 30 and have 2 years left on their contracts respectively. I can’t invisage a scenario where all three will be offered 3-5 year contracts. I’m my opinion we’ll make an exception for Salah and sell the other two next season and get a fee rather than lost them for nothing. FSG are pure business folk this is their club and they run it with objectivity and not sentimentality



12 Jul 2021 03:08:49
Lets sign and sell some players now that all distractions are over.
Wonder if athletico will be interested in keita, maybe that could drive saul price down.

I really want saul. His signing alone just glues our midfield big big time. We will see best of thiago in first half and then when saul is ready we have saul and thiago killing teams around.
He is one signing that helps us big time with no 20 and no 7.
I hope its not just paper talk. Saul is available, we have to go all out and get him in.
I am not bothered about his salary or other money stuff. But the player is a massive upgrade on gini.


1.) 12 Jul 2021 07:13:17
I'm sure we would snap him up if those in charge weren't bothered about his salary or other money stuff.

2.) 12 Jul 2021 08:35:41
As would everyone else but that's the point.

3.) 12 Jul 2021 08:58:02
Akira, I want a Ferrari as well BUT can't afford it due to costs and my pitiful wages. What's a guy to do?

4.) 12 Jul 2021 09:23:42
The money is always there oli, its about whether it will be wise to spend or not especially given the circumstances.

I don't get these I vs the club arguments, money wise.
Do you know how much money is available or not available? There are no figures but just knowledge of the eds about club finances, in which ed002 has repeatedly said he expects liverpool to make more signings

As fans we should not be involved in discussion about money as we don't know.
The discussion should be whether saul is the best signing for us or are there others who are better?
Id argue no one is near sauls level atm and therefore we should be working on solving the financial part of the deal and get the player.

Id argue signing a lesser player for less and him not working out is worse situation than signing a better player that has more chance to work out even though it will cost us more.

5.) 12 Jul 2021 11:52:11
I wonder if Ginis salary and Kietas salary covers Sauls salary? Can’t be bothered to check.
In any case I think Saul is being overpaid where he is, if he takes a pay cut to play here (because he will need to) then he’s come to play football and that’s a good sign.
Not getting excited about this one, can’t see it happening.



09 Jul 2021 18:20:25
Bissouma better than saul! I had to really read that twice.
I know Bissouma this and that but saul is light years ahead of him.


1.) 09 Jul 2021 19:02:52
Read again 10-15 times, say it out loud 10-15 times, and bingo you'll believe it.

2.) 09 Jul 2021 19:53:44
I have no clue as to how good Bissouma would be but maybe put him in a top quality team and he will shine.

{Ed025's Note - hes very good mark..

3.) 09 Jul 2021 20:05:14
I’d be happy with either of them. Bissouma is a quality player.

4.) 09 Jul 2021 21:42:28
I didn’t watch much quality football last year, I only watched the Liverpool matches. Olired come on down.

5.) 10 Jul 2021 14:02:23
Bisdom si’s brilliant. Absolute quality with versatility as his main attribute, IMO. Him being compared to Saul is credit to his ability and not a knock on Saul in any way.

6.) 10 Jul 2021 16:15:38
Bissouma is excellent, but Saul is world class, to be honest if we signed either it’d be a fantastic signing.




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31 Jul 2021 03:55:00
Dont think klopp is the type of guy who would leave a team in mid season.




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18 Jul 2021 11:55:01
Neither vinicius nor sar would be salah replacements.
Id go for chiesa if we sell salah.




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18 Jul 2021 11:52:50
It will beVery difficult to sell him though, without a huge loss. He has 3 years on his contract and if we loan him and it works out for him A) he gets his playing time which i doubt he will with us. B) we can sell him on comparatively less loss.
In current climate i don't see anyone bidding for him.




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15 Jul 2021 04:09:29
Italians and liverpool have not worked out for some reason whether its us or them
Balotelli aquilani borini on the top of my head.




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11 Jul 2021 06:34:02
Luis alberto is 28 and saul is 26 why would athletico even consider that.





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03 Aug 2021 17:41:50
For our current setup under klopp id sign kuyt in attack cuz he is made for klopp and midfielder would be macca.




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03 Aug 2021 17:36:57
I don't actually mind keeping origi. He was instrumental in us winning the CL.
We don't really have any options or money to replace him either. He makes sense to hold for one more season.




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01 Aug 2021 10:32:31
First of all taki was sent out on loan to lose his shyness and get game time both of which he did and I think people on here write off players too soon.
I don't see how bowen brings any more ability than taki. Taki would work for us in games we know they are going to have 10 men defending.




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01 Aug 2021 04:13:40
I have been continuously saying its the next summer window that matters most. I don't really see fans in stadium this season for long time either. So yet again for us it has to be about securing the top4 this season

This season is all about trimming the existing squad. I don't want us to sign for sake of it.
Next year a decision will have to be made on likes of hendo salah mane bobby vvd and keita.

Also i have been told by a birdie that we are preparing a offer for an attacker in serie A. Its considerable money but player representatives are flocking him around and it is p. ing us off.




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31 Jul 2021 14:16:11
He has learnt english finally! And this could work. Some people are slow to learn and I think we are going to see a beast of a player.

Unless he gets injured! Which he has every bloody time he shows any kind of promise.