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07 Sep 2021 06:48:02
Ed. s what of these links with Carlos Soler? Looks to be some player.
{Ed002's Note - Carlos Soler (CM) Financial issues at Valencia mean that they will listen to offers for players but want to hold on to Gaya whilst they have told interested sides that neither Carlos Soler or Maxi Gomez would be sold cheaply. I am not aware of any approach by Liverpool but he would be an excellent addition - but the time to show an anterest was when the transfer window was open.}
1.) 07 Sep 2021 15:58:54
Thanks 002. Perhaps they are waiting for his contract to run down , as many clubs seem to be doing with us? In hard times, any discount helps.
06 Aug 2021 07:55:41
Ed's do you see Taki being sold on at a tidy profit ASAP? Are the saint's no longer interested?
{Ed002's Note - Takumi Minamino (AM) Sevilla are keen to take Minamino to replace Vazquez but would want a loan to buy. Southanpton are keen to keep him but again but it would be a loan to buy they are looking for. Liverpool are looking for sales not loans but may well price him out of a sale leaving Klopp to work with him as an existing player to save money.}
1.) 06 Aug 2021 10:38:42
As a matter of interest, who sets the prices for our going players Ed002?
{Ed002's Note - I would think Michael Edwards, Dave Fallows and Barry Hunter.}
2.) 06 Aug 2021 10:53:32
Thanks ed002.
3.) 06 Aug 2021 10:53:58
Ed could you see Southampton making a money bid now that they have sold Ings. For what I think is a very good price with only have 1 year on his contract age and his injury record. Or do you think they have that planned for somebody else.
Cheers ed.
{Ed002's Note - No. They are adding a striker to replace Ings.}
4.) 06 Aug 2021 10:47:41
Thanks Ed, seems reasonable, not desperate, firm boundaries and with a manager like JK, anything is possible.
Reckon if we buy a forward, a year on loan in a slower, less physical league could see his value rocket. There is no doubting he is a skilful player .
17 Jun 2021 22:22:17
Any truth in the Romero rumours? Makes total sense to me that we would be buying 2 CB's because not only are 2 of ours injury prone, but with 3 all coming back from serious injuries, to rush any of them would be playing with fire on a number of levels. I like the idea of an aggressive CB being brought in like the Turk we bid 50m for from Juve or Romero.
Seems we are shopping at the top end of the market if these rumours are true.
We'd likely get 10m for Nat and 8 for Davies now also, which all helps, but the main point is, we simply can't rush any of the other 3 back.
1.) 17 Jun 2021 23:35:46
Who'd pay £8m for Davies? We only got 10 for Dejan.
2.) 17 Jun 2021 23:38:27
No, no truth whatsoever.
3.) 18 Jun 2021 06:41:34
I can’t imagine anyone would bid £50m for Demiral after his last outing for Turkey.
In any case, I can’t see why we’d go for Romero, we literally have 7 centre backs and there’s other more pressing matters to deal with now.
4.) 18 Jun 2021 09:34:27
What Victor said, loads already on the books.
Also, you don't buy players to cover the first 2 months of the season, Nat Phillips can do that just keep him this season as well.
5.) 18 Jun 2021 09:43:00
Precisely Sean. If we can’t get a pairing out of VVD, Matip, Gomez, Kounate, Phillips, Davies, Williams and even Kometio then questions need asking!
6.) 18 Jun 2021 09:49:28
On top of the injuries, VVD is approaching the age of 'last big contract', and who knows what he desires, especially after his injury.
7.) 18 Jun 2021 10:27:53
VVD has a good four or five years left at the top and there’s every reason to think he’s likely to fully recover from that injury. I think he’s likely to commit and the club realise he’s worth that last big contract.
8.) 18 Jun 2021 12:20:45
10 million wouldn’t buy Nat Phillips with one leg btw. A proven young English center back. Imagine we tried to buy a 24 year old pl proven cb who’s English from Burnley or Leicester or Brighton. Think of the fees they have plucked out of thin air for those kinds of player. He’s a £20m cb at the very least and I wouldn’t want to sell him for a penny less unless he gets a dream move offered to him and he asks to leave for it.
9.) 18 Jun 2021 15:15:05
Your username suits you anyway spaceman 😂.
10.) 18 Jun 2021 15:17:21
And £40M for Ben White is a current example of what Jezza is saying, young English centre backs are priced very high. Nat Phillips wouldn't cost anywhere near as much as Ben White but it is an example of how expensive English players can be.
11.) 18 Jun 2021 17:55:52
Ben White is a capped England international, with 160 appearances in English football, 39 come in the Prem and is first choice for his club at the age of 23.
Nat Philips is 5th choice centreback with 21 appearances in English football with only 1 of those coming outside this injury stricken season.
There’s a reason why there would be a descrepancy in their valuations.
12.) 18 Jun 2021 18:29:34
In fairness, Phillips is clearly a better defender than Ben Gibson and I reckon he’s better than Michael Keane and at least as good as James Tarkowski so he’s got to be worth more than £10m as Gibson went for £16m and Keane was around £20m. So £20m is fair value for an English centre half who is clearly premier league quality.
{Ed077's Note - How long does his contract run for? That can alter the fee as well.}
13.) 18 Jun 2021 18:46:29
Just throwing my tuppence worth into the conversation.
I really like Nate so here we go, none of those other players mentioned got thrown in at the deep end in a devastated defence slipping down the Prem table and ended up finishing 3rd in the Prem.
He's worth every penny of 20+mil to half of the teams in the EPL.
14.) 18 Jun 2021 19:34:03
Take £10m and run, no one has money this summer so no hope of £20m fees for him. And after this season where he gets a couple of 88th minute substitute appearances a cupla times during the season we'll be doing well to get £4-5m next year.
15.) 19 Jun 2021 07:43:29
Phillips, to my knowledge, has a year left on his contract. A player is only worth what a club is prepared to pay and sell for. I love Phillips attitude and desire, my only issue is he's got a taste for football and I fear he may want out. I wouldn't begrudge him a move and if I'm right about his contract 10m is fair. In his short time with us he's been a fabulous servant. I'll support whatever decision he makes.
16.) 18 Jun 2021 19:25:53
Good point ed077, I think he’s got two more years from what I’ve read.
16 Dec 2019 08:43:40
I've seen a few who claim to have heard from various people that Sander Berge will be signed in Jan. The story goes that Bobby and Fab needed alternates/ back up as they are so crucial to the system.
Minamino can play in 5 positions, including that of Bobby, and Sander Berge is a deep lying playmaker, who looks to be an absolute beast. Apparently he was blown away by the atmosphere at the home game and JK congratulated him at the end of the match.
personally I would be delighted with these two players in Jan.
1.) 16 Dec 2019 10:16:39
Any truth in this, eds? Not sure why Berge would want to move just to sit on our bench, to be quite honest.
{Ed002's Note - Klopp apparently remains keen on Sander Bertge (DM) but it is difficult to see how he would get regular game time with Fabinho in the side. Napoli and Fiorentina are both keen as well.}
2.) 16 Dec 2019 12:52:41
It would surely mean the end for Grujic if Berge was signed.
3.) 16 Dec 2019 18:18:41
And if Berge is better than Grujic, then what's the problem with signing Berge? Agreed Grujic may not have been handled ideally, but he has said he's very happy at Hertha Berlin. He's earning an honest wage. Let him continue.
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03 Sep 2021 19:06:39
First the Villa rumours, now no CL squad for Curtis Jones. Any ideas what's going on there Ed's?
{Ed001's Note - does he need to be named at his age?}
1.) 03 Sep 2021 19:20:23
U21 do not have to be named.
2.) 03 Sep 2021 19:34:05
Under 21 and atleast 2 years trained at the club, I think Elliot is in the squad because he doesn't hit the training criteria.
Players like Jones, Williams etc don't need to be included.
3.) 03 Sep 2021 19:43:16
Jones will get game time. Its only 3 games in. His time will come before too long.
4.) 03 Sep 2021 19:49:56
Hopefully Jones will get some fire in his belly and work hard to show that he is the gini replacement. He has got great pros to be training around and the best manager to help him develop so if he doesn't make it it'll be on his shoulders, personally I think he will develop in to a top player.
5.) 03 Sep 2021 20:18:16
If Jones didn't have some fire in his belly he wouldn't be where he is now.
6.) 03 Sep 2021 22:55:23
Storm in a tea cup, really regarding Jones. He’ll be fine.
09 Aug 2021 23:30:22
Why has the Bissouma talk gone cold? Ed's seemed certain that he was the number 1 choice for a period, has that now changed?
Who is the top MF target now, does anyone outside the club actually know?
{Ed002's Note - The price would make it difficult with Brighton not wanting to sell and the player wanting elsewhere.}
1.) 10 Aug 2021 03:50:09
Arsenal?
{Ed0666's Note - I think so yes
2.) 10 Aug 2021 09:02:23
He’s probably sick of battling relegation and fancies the fight for a top 12 finish.
29 Jul 2021 20:16:50
No Ben D even on the bench for this friendly. Surely he's being sold on Ed's?
He was clearly only bought either to turn a profit or to help with HG quotas.
{Ed002's Note - You may find checking squads is not the way to figure out comings and goings.}
1.) 29 Jul 2021 21:08:45
2+2=5.
2.) 29 Jul 2021 21:02:18
Ed002 did he not return home for personal reasons not sure if his comeback yet.
3.) 30 Jul 2021 10:38:07
He returned home for personal reasons.
24 Jul 2021 02:10:49
Ed's any knowledge on.................
{Ed002's Note - Why ask on the Liverpool page?}
1.) 24 Jul 2021 12:09:55
The Big Bang Theory?
2.) 24 Jul 2021 17:03:27
Who my wife is sleeping with?
{Ed0666's Note - everyone in you're family apart from you? 😍
16 Jul 2021 09:19:03
Lunchalotti tells the board to go after Mo if Mbappe deal can't be done. Mo get's his dream move and we get Mbappe. Seems legit.
1.) 16 Jul 2021 09:56:31
Sounds like a man that's always on a break.
2.) 16 Jul 2021 10:10:07
PSG are seemingly offering to make Mbappe the highest paid footballer in the world. I suspect he’ll take the offer. Mbappe is never going to play for Liverpool. If we sell Salah I seriously doubt our ability to find a world class replacement who can score 20 plus goals a season.
3.) 16 Jul 2021 10:16:17
How is that good new for LFC, sometimes I think it's better to appreciate what you have and not hold your breath? Mo leaving us would weaken the team respective of who we sign to replace him.
4.) 16 Jul 2021 10:52:29
I’m actually pretty certain that Mo would get more respect if he was Brazilian or Argentinian. The man is world class. His output demonstrates that, he’s done it consistently year on year for us at the highest level and he’s no tap in merchant either.
5.) 16 Jul 2021 11:20:55
How to replace 20 goals? Buy Lewandowski and a new winger might help….
6.) 16 Jul 2021 12:27:40
I absolutely love Mo and hope he doesn't leave but we have been good in finding forwards in the last decade or so, Torres -> Suarez -> Mane/ Mo. I am sure we will find someone if Mo leaves.
7.) 16 Jul 2021 13:59:21
td, equally though Carroll, Balotelli, Borini, Markovic, Lambert…so let’s lot make out we’re geniuses.
As for Lewandowski, he’s got two years at the top level maybe 3 at best and there’s no guarantee that at his age he’ll adapt quickly to the premier league and given his cost it’s too much of a risk with no resale value.
8.) 16 Jul 2021 14:39:06
I'd much rather keep Mo (if we can keep him happy) for several more years. The way he trains and is dedicated to his craft makes me think he has 5+ more years at the top, and I'd love for all of those to be with us.
9.) 16 Jul 2021 14:59:56
If we lose Mo then Instead of excited for the new season I will be more than apprehensive unless a suitable replacement can be found highly unlikely as Mo is currently the best forward in the world. If true it must be over a £100 million. I am just going to put it down as BS for now!
10.) 16 Jul 2021 15:03:37
I wouldn't be happy with that. Mo has 2 golden boots in 4 years, missed out on another by a goal mbappe is a great player but we would be crazy to do a deal like that especially considering mbappes wages.
09 Sep 2021 15:55:15
Jimmy Hill's grandson? Has he got a massive chin too?
07 Sep 2021 15:58:54
Thanks 002. Perhaps they are waiting for his contract to run down , as many clubs seem to be doing with us? In hard times, any discount helps.
31 Aug 2021 13:36:33
VVD seems to be much more robust, only we know Matip and Gomez are made of crisps. There is always a risk but life is a risk.
31 Aug 2021 12:36:28
Does Jones fit Klopp's tactics? Maybe Jones wants to play more often seeing as Elliott appears to be ahead of him now.
31 Aug 2021 12:06:36
Smokescreens are part of Edwards tactical approach. You only need to look at the amount of bids that have been thrown about, 50m for demiral last jan is one example.
On that note, what do the Ed's know of his imminent departure next summer?
{Ed002's Note - Edwards will leave at the end of his contract and explore new opportunities.}
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