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26 Jun 2022 10:38:47
Ed's is there any interest for Mo this summer or just click bait out there I know it's not ideal to sell him and mane in the same window but it's better than getting nothing for him. Or is it a case of he would not move this year and is waiting for the big pay off next seasons.

grino75

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach to Liverpool for him nor the club making him available. If they do, it would not be in the best interests of the player to move this summer.}


1.) 26 Jun 2022 10:55:20
Because if he were to move this summer he wouldn’t get a huge sign on bonus, but will next year when he’s a free agent?

{Ed002's Note - Right. Obviously the club still want him to sign a new contract.}


2.) 26 Jun 2022 11:05:40
Mo has already stated that he will be here next season, and clearly won't diminish his position . Barcelona all the way.
A mid price replacement is surely coming in in prep for next season though.


3.) 26 Jun 2022 11:04:38
Id rather the club sign a replacement now so we aren't short come next season. Mo clearly wants to move next season because he can choose who and where and it's better financially for him and his team. We should also be selfish as a club. IF we aren't going to realise a fee for him then, being left short or paying over the odds for a replacement next season will surely stand us in better stead now. Gives the new player a season to bed in. Id go all out for Rafinha. We need to look after the club and not the whims of Mo's over inflated ego. He's been average by his standards for months (probably tired id imagine), maybe we've had the best out of him, no one can't tell for sure. What do you think Ed001?

{Ed001's Note - I think he just needed a rest and reset after the heartbreak of the AFCON.}


4.) 26 Jun 2022 11:12:07
Cheers Ed001 my thoughts too. Id love him to stay but I think Mo will be out for Mo. Id rather get his replacement in now if we can. Then there's no panic buying and over paying next season.


5.) 26 Jun 2022 11:39:20
Problem is if things don't go well at start of next season he will be the scapegoat like he has been for last 6 months.


6.) 26 Jun 2022 11:47:21
War machine who’s made him a scapegoat? We had an incredible season and I for one was over the moon to win two cups and push city all the way. I think Salah has enough credit in the bank to have a bad patch and still be loved by the fans even if he does leave next year.
Salah will be back to his best come the start of the season.
This isn’t having a pop at you by the way WM just my opinion mate ??.


7.) 26 Jun 2022 11:50:12
Only for the idiots WarMachine. Still been a massive player for us no matter what his form is. Best player in the world at one point. Let’s hope he stays and gets his form back after a good rest. I still think we should sign someone though to replace him now whilst these players are available.


8.) 26 Jun 2022 13:35:50
I don’t understand your posts Jimblelfc because in your first post you said “We need to look after the club and not the whims of Mo's over inflated ego. He's been average by his standards for months (probably tired id imagine), maybe we've had the best out of him” and then you say in your last post only idiots would say things like that etc, talk about contradicting yourself, make up your mind lad.


9.) 26 Jun 2022 14:01:07
[SimonBrundish] @MoSalah has compiled the greatest attacking performance over a 5 year period, of any @LFC player in history.


10.) 26 Jun 2022 14:14:58
How have I scapegoated him Sid19? Do you know what a scapegoat is? He’s been average by his own standards. Everyone can see that. I’m not making this up. He needs to get his head down and play if he’s staying or carry on with the Mo show if not. I never said he was bad and never blamed him for any dips in team form so therefore not scapegoating. He has got an over inflated ego. Doesn’t make him a bad person. I’d just rather get someone in now while he makes his mind up.


11.) 26 Jun 2022 16:41:54
Jimblelfc not sure what scapegoat has got to do with my message and I’m not a 100% sure but “scapegoated” isn’t a word so no maybe I don’t know what it means but hey you can enlighten me as for an over inflated ego I’ve never known him to be like that too but maybe you know him better than me.


12.) 26 Jun 2022 17:44:43
Spaceman. How dare you put up stats like that on here; you know we frown on fact based conclusions. Better to dwell on the ignorance and arrogance of such players (let's include Mane in here since we are at it) who are not willing to work for the club below their market value and their market rate.

Sarcasm aside, if there is an attacking player that deserves to be the highest paid LFC player ever, then Salah is it. But I would never ever suggest giving Salah 400K per week, because it would kill our wage structure and wreak havoc in the dressing room and the club. I wish something would happen or someone would intervene and tell both sides to find a happy medium somewhere in the middle and we could all go back to just winning games.

{Ed0666's Note - Buy your own logic if any attacking player in our history deserves to be paid £400k a week it’s Salah so why should he settle for a happy medium? That doesent make any sense at all mate.


13.) 26 Jun 2022 16:46:43
For those saying Salah has an over inflated ego, i understand that the amounts of money mentioned with these top footballers are crazy to us fans but what we have to understand that Mo is elite and i'd imagine he'll be in the top 3,maybe 2 for the ballon D'or! He rightfully wants be be paid as much as some of these players who'll get nowhere near him in the voting.


14.) 26 Jun 2022 18:01:59
I still can't understand why Salah is getting the wrap from our fans. Selfish or not, we have achieved so much and he's been pivotal to us winning trophies. If Salah wants more money or a new challenge that's totally acceptable and no different to somebody deserving going for a pay rise in typical employment.


15.) 26 Jun 2022 20:59:27
Ed0666, what I meant is that 400K is way too high given our wage structure. It would cause irreparable damage to the cohesion of the team. Give him something like 300-325K for a 3 year contract, and hope he'll accept. And he'd still be the highest paid Liverpool player ever. Everyone is happy.

But realistically speaking he probably would not agree. He doesn't have to look far to see De Bruyne on 400K, Grealish on 300K and Sterling on 300K too.

{Ed0666's Note - exactly mate. If you give him north of 300 then Virgil could pipe up and then a domino effect..you get my drift. I would suggest that Mo is gone sooner rather than later and a new contract he won’t be signing as he would have done it by now.


16.) 27 Jun 2022 11:40:00
Be sad to see him go but it's a tough one. He could have a stinker of a season and not get his wish anyway. Personally hope we bags 20+ IF he stays.


 

 

24 Jun 2022 14:58:48
Is there any interest in Ox or Naby hoping Carvalho and a fit Elliott take up there minutes this season.

grino75

{Ed002's Note - Nothing new.}


1.) 24 Jun 2022 16:13:20
And Jones gets more minutes too.


2.) 24 Jun 2022 17:02:47
I’m sure Klopp will give the minutes to the players impressing and working the hardest in training.

Ball is firmly in all players courts on selection.


3.) 24 Jun 2022 19:37:30
Spot on JK!


4.) 25 Jun 2022 09:08:17
Agreed JK. Naby was ahead of Jones last season, its up to Jones to show he has the ability to replace Naby, that goes for Elliott too. If Naby is as crap as everyone thinks then it shouldn't be an issue to take his spot.


 

 

22 Jun 2022 07:14:19
Ed's is there any interest in Sepp van den Berg he has been here 3 season now so if he got a loan abroad would it effect his home grown status.
Cheers.

grino75

{Ed002's Note - He will get another loan - I don't know where but it will not impact his HG status.}


1.) 22 Jun 2022 09:00:05
Followed Sep on and off last season and by all accounts he has done brilliantly at Preston they really want him back, personally he needs another Loan to a premier league club or a move to another top league to see if he can carry on the development.


2.) 22 Jun 2022 10:25:38
Kloppers am not sure a premier league team will give him the minutes to help him keep improving. Better championship side or a move to a club abroad Germany would be good young players seem to get plenty of game time over there.


3.) 22 Jun 2022 11:32:05
Wouldnt be sending him back to the championship, he's proved himself over the last 18 months at that level. Either lower level Premier League or a top 5 league move abroad for me! top prospect.


4.) 22 Jun 2022 20:25:20
Notts Forest or Bournemouth would or could take him.


 

 

08 Jun 2022 12:51:26
Ed002 are we interested in a midfielder as things stand or do a coupon need to go am guessing Ox is on his way out and carvalho will replace him in the squad. Next season Elliott should be back to full fitness so I don't see a great need with the amount of players we have there.

grino75

{Ed002's Note - Yes, Liverpool will look to add a midfield player.}


1.) 08 Jun 2022 14:55:39
Sangare or Kalvin Phillips maybe?


2.) 08 Jun 2022 14:56:18
I am a little surprised Milner has been giving another 1 year contract, I thought he would of been better off becoming part of the staff at the age of 36 rather than take a squad place up.


3.) 08 Jun 2022 15:03:20
Age is only a number if he's capable of still giving and leading on the pitch, I'm all for another year.


4.) 08 Jun 2022 15:16:21
I was shocked to hear that Milner has played more games for us (289 I think) than any of his previous clubs.


5.) 08 Jun 2022 15:32:58
Seen links to Carlos Soler today of Valenica.


6.) 08 Jun 2022 16:51:06
If the Nunez rumours are true I reckon it’ll be more of the affordable ones like Sangare.


7.) 08 Jun 2022 17:37:22
Soler is a proper player. If we could get him ahead of Barca, that would be a coup. I love this player.


8.) 08 Jun 2022 17:43:16
I like the look of Sangare. Much like Rice I am sure Phillips is the sort of player we need although I do think he’s a decent player.


9.) 08 Jun 2022 17:57:03
Milner was MOTM Vs Newcastle recently.


10.) 08 Jun 2022 19:27:42
Can Sangare play both the 6 and 8 roles or have I read that wrong? Could be a decent player and more affordable than others we've been linked too - would definitely love someone that could cover Fabs.


11.) 08 Jun 2022 19:30:13
Having Milner round for as long as possible is just a must he knows he’s not a starter and signed for less money that’s how much he loves being part of this project as for a new midfielder if it’s not an improvement on the starting midfield I’d rather save the money and utilise until we can sign the adequate quality . We have bit part players as it is what’s the point in adding more.


12.) 08 Jun 2022 19:48:56
Ed, do you think we could settle with the signing of Carvalho and the extension of Milner for this window, and the go for Bellingham next summer?

{Ed002's Note - That is not the plan.}


13.) 08 Jun 2022 20:39:39
Thank you very much, Ed. Read somewhere on the social medias Liverpool would test the waters for Jude already this summer. Must be pure speculations as I recall you mentioning BvB would only let one of Jude and Erling leave this summer.

{Ed002's Note - I rather doubt it.}


14.) 08 Jun 2022 21:45:46
Ed what's your thoughts that Klopp must of been promised some dough to sign the new contract. I know he loves the club, but FSG must have gave him some sort of incentive. Citeh have changed their transfer strategy, with Jack and Haaland. Do you feel Liverpool will too. Obviously not at the same level?

{Ed002's Note - I am pretty sure Klopp has not blackmailed the club. Both clubs need to work within FFP.}


15.) 08 Jun 2022 23:05:06
I didn't mean blackmailed. I'm asking if you think he has had some reassurances that he can spend a little more? We know he is class at making players WC but it's a rumour site. I'm personally thinking he has been told he might be able to spend. Within limits like.


 

 

21 May 2022 22:51:34
Any truth in Inter wanting Minamino or is there any other teams looking To sign him this summer.
Cheers.

grino75

{Ed002's Note - Try searching.}


1.) 21 May 2022 23:01:17
Could not really find anything Ed about Inter I am assuming that means no.

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach by Inter.

Taki Minamino (RW/AM) Leeds remain very concerned about losing Raphinha and have asked about the about the availability of Minamino, but unless Liverpool can find a youngster at the the club to replace him as cover it makes little sense to sell him unless he wants to leave due to lack of game time. Liverpool will perhaps be open to a summer sale, but with Origi leaving I would expect the coach not want to disturb the fringe forwards too much. Interest of Southampton moved on. I am not aware of any approach from Monaco but I am aware that they fear Aleksandr Golovin could be tempted away - he may well provide an option given their prior interest. A third party working on behalf of his agent did speak with Lazio, so perhaps he has spoken with Inter as well.}


 

 

 

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22 Jun 2022 10:34:46
Good move for club ad Minamino I see a lot of people on here saying he should have played more. I don't think he should have, I don't think he was suited to are league it's all right scoring in the cups against weaker teams but Klopp gave him plenty of chances in the league and he did not take them went missing to much in games Jota might do the same but he pops up and scores.

grino75

1.) 22 Jun 2022 10:48:14
I would agree with you re the 20/ 21 season but he was much more physically impressive last season. I'd say he played the RW/ RWF role better than anyone else that was asked to in Salah's absence. He was also an excellent finisher and pressed intelligently.


2.) 22 Jun 2022 10:50:49
He played 176 minutes in the league and scored 3 goals, so he didn't get that many chances and for the time he did get hedid well, and I'd say he got about the pitch and showed a lot more desire than jota, not saying he should have stayed or anything I think the move is best for everyone but to say he got plenty of chances in the league and barely did anything is extremely unfair to the lad.


3.) 22 Jun 2022 11:07:46
Agree 21 goals and 8 assists and finishing first in most successful pressures and closing down is not the type of player we need. Hopefully we can offload Jota at the first opportunity.


4.) 22 Jun 2022 11:26:12
Sammy, i think it's fair to criticise Jota's touch and passing but it is absolutely laughable to question how well he gets about the pitch or his desire. Out of all of our forwards only Firmino averaged more defensive actions per 90 (pressures, tackles, interceptions, blocks and clearances) . Jota might not be silky on the eye but making up nonsense about his attitude on the pitch is not something i have absolutely any time for. It's actually embarrassing how fair the agenda against him on this site has gone now.

For anyone interested in the defensive actions made last season by a few of the forwards (rounded to nearest whole:
Diaz - 18 per 90
Firmino - 29 per 90
Nunez - 19 per 90
Jota - 26 per 90
Salah - 17 per 90
Mane - 17 per 90

One thing you most definitely cannot hold against Jota is his application out of possession.


5.) 22 Jun 2022 11:39:40
re Jota - opinions seem to be getting a bit extreme in both directions. He's clearly a talented player and deadly finisher - two footed and freakishly good in the air. His issue is that he needs time to work on his game in terms of link up play. That is a criticism that could be aimed at most of our forwards at times.

He's also not been helped by being moved from the left, to the centre and to the right. He's also chucked into a 4-2-4 formation when we get desperate in games.

The bigger concern is that we have another busy schedule in this condensed season and I wonder how much time they will have to invest in developing his all round game on the training field. Pre-season is going to be incredibly important for him.

Interestingly, the games that I felt he had his best all round games were when Bobby was in the side too. Might be something in that.


6.) 22 Jun 2022 11:44:59
Mk I question his desire because he spends half the game flailing his hands in the air like a child. So yes I think his desire is lacking I don't care what stats you throw at me the amount of times I see him make a mistake and just flail his arms about is what I find laughable. I still think jota a great player for the record, I just think it's unfair for OP to say jota does the same but gets results when minamino has also got results with his limited time whilst also always working hard to rectify mistakes he made.


7.) 22 Jun 2022 13:16:49
Jota has a pass completion of 75% and Bobby 78%. It’s amazing how 3% changes a player from being can’t pass the ball to our front line cannot function or score without him knitting everything together.

Roll on the season starting. Hopefully we as the best fans in the world can stop giving our own players pelters once the football starts.


8.) 22 Jun 2022 13:36:47
JK stats aren't the be all and end all. How difficult were the passes for example. Is Bobby 3% better whilst attempting twice as many through balls or passes into the penalty box, for example? Or is it in fact Jota who attempts more through balls and progressive passes?

That being said I have no problem with Jota as part of the squad. Generally speaking, he trades control of possession for goal threat. There are games where we will need that and there are games where we won't.

Going forward, a lot will depend on how Nunez settles and if Diaz adds more end product. If they start banging them in, then Jota might find his niche being encroached on.


9.) 22 Jun 2022 14:25:55
SR all of our forwards have lower percentage pass completion compared to our midfielders or defenders due to them not passing the ball backwards or sidewards as many times. But that’s the nature of the beast and I’d rather see the forwards attempt riskier passes to create a chance.

Just from the naked eye it’s fairly obvious that Bobby is a better player than Jota with regards to retaining possession and then Jota is a better goal scorer. Last season Bobby played less than 30% of league minutes throughout the season so as important as Bobby is it has been we did pretty well with Jota in the lineup.


10.) 22 Jun 2022 16:02:34
Back to Minamino, underused and never given a chance to build any kind of momentum. Wish we used him more as they were obvious times others as head of him needed a spell.


11.) 22 Jun 2022 19:08:19
Jota bashing IMO is a joke. I have nothing to more say on it.
Anyway on Taki, probably deserved more of a chance but never let us down when called upon. Good player at the wrong club I think. Ironic that for all the plaudits of our first choice front 5 (before Mane left) we didn’t win the trophies they played the most part in but did the double in no small part thanks to bit part players Divock and Taki who we would not even of got to the final without. All the best to the pair of them.


12.) 22 Jun 2022 19:37:00
Taki wasn’t as good as the other 5 players ahead of him in the pecking order it’s that simple. He has talent but I always thought he didn’t have a big game mentality and shied away when things got tough.
It’s been said before a million times I trust Klopp who sees him train every day and knows him personally and he never quite trusted him to step in when the others were out. That’s tells it’s own story for me.
Good luck to him I have nothing against him at all he gave his all every time he played but some players just aren’t meant for big teams where pressure is unbearable at times.
I hope he goes on to have a stellar career he seems a genuine, hard working guy he deserves it.


13.) 22 Jun 2022 21:32:30
Lfcsammy he did not play 176 minutes that’s how often he scored.


14.) 22 Jun 2022 21:41:01
Some fans just assume he is not good enough just because Klopp doesn't play him. Similar cases with wijnaldum, fans thinks he is very good player just because Klopp always play him.

That is simply lazy thought without really watching him play.

Assist and then score an equalizer against Leicester, weaker team according to some fans, but then we lose against Leicester the next match.

Come one just be truth and honest, Klopp didn't play Minamino simply because he doesn't rate him.

Klopp rather play Ox in the false 9 than Minamino. What else you want to say. No need to degrade him. Saying he is too weak for EPL and all sort of poor and lazy excuses.


15.) 22 Jun 2022 22:07:55
Sepah, nobody is saying Taki is a bad player, he’s a very good player that much is obvious.
He just didn’t quite have what it takes to be first choice at one of the biggest clubs in the world at this stage in his career.
There’s no shame in that it’s a ruthless business. He didn’t really set the world alight at Southampton either to be honest.
Good squad player that can do a decent job when called upon but that’s about it.
I hope he can find a home at Monaco and really push on he seems a great lad.


16.) 23 Jun 2022 01:36:09
I am also sick and tired of the Jota bashing

Had a few discussions on here with posters. Agree to disagree I think is the only way we can leave it.


17.) 23 Jun 2022 06:24:24
Good god take out jota’s goals last season and there won't be a title challenge.
Can he improve and get better, of course yes but the anti - group is a bit ridiculous here.
Also now he has a season under is belt and done good, i can only see him getting better.


18.) 23 Jun 2022 08:27:11
If you take our forwards last season : Sadio, Mo, Bobby, Diogo, Luis, Big Div and Taki, I would argue that

Diogo is the most natural goal scorer and Taki might very well be the second rated most natural scorer.

Bobby has, by far, the best instinctive football brain.

The best combination on the pitch was Luis, Sadio and Mo as they are all brilliant all rounders.

Of course they all have their weaknesses but Mr Klopp being the pretty good manager that he is, seems to have the happy knack of knowing which combination to pick based on the opposition we were up against.

Obviously, three of the seven have gone but on the plus side we have brought in Nunez and with the five we have at our disposal, possibly augmented by Carvalho and Ox (and a slightly altered formation) we should go ok. No doubt over the course of the season we will hear more of the players faults but that seems to be the norm for fans these days, sadly.

{Ed001's Note - what do you mean these days? That has always been the way. I can remember as a little kid listening to a group of Liverpool fans discussing Sammy Lee - he was everything from a fat waster to a useless lump. In fact just about anything bad you can think of to say about a player he got called. Nothing has changed, it is just that now it is online for everyone to read, rather than just in the pub or workplace etc.

And Divvy was by far the most natural goalscorer of them all, Jota misses a lot of chances that a natural goalscorer would gobble up. While even the best miss some, the amount he misses is not far off the likes of Salah. Yes he scores a lot, but it is clearly he is not a natural penalty box predator, that is something he can improve on markedly and hopefully will.}


19.) 23 Jun 2022 09:00:54
"And Divvy was by far the most natural goalscorer of them all". Excellent point, ED. That 4th goal vs Barcelona alone in that CL semi final at Anfield, is all you need to know about how naturally gifted a goalscorer Divvy is/ was. None of our forwards are in his league in this department, IMO.

{Ed001's Note - if he had the fire in his belly to match his natural talent, he would be up amongst the best in the world easily. I remember chatting to some of the Belgian international staff just before Bobby Brown Shoes was appointed and they raved about him as the best natural talent Belgium had.}


20.) 23 Jun 2022 10:48:59
Fair point about the fans having a scapegoat. Gary Ablett was another one who wasn’t a favourite.

It just seems that the threshold of tolerance is a lot shorter in general these days.

Take the point about Jota missing a few - when I read the response Brian McClair popped into my head - scored a few for Man Utd but missed a lot more than he scored.


 

 

21 Jun 2022 21:26:47
Minamino of to Monaco £15.5m.

grino75

1.) 21 Jun 2022 21:36:47
I'm very sorry to see him go. There is a fantastic player in there and a lot better than Jota. All in all he wasn't used properly and definitely should have got a lot more game time.


2.) 21 Jun 2022 21:43:51
Good to see him get a move, good lad by all accounts. Thought we wouldve got more money for him.


3.) 21 Jun 2022 22:21:38
I wish him all the best. He played an extremely vital role in our cup wins last year. His injury time equaliser against Leicester would still remain my favourite moment of last season. Solid lad. Shame that it didn't work out like the way liked it to be.


4.) 21 Jun 2022 22:39:11
Wish him the very best. He's a brilliant player that we just couldn't get into our lineup. Delivered solid performances when called upon and will have a good career.


5.) 22 Jun 2022 09:20:52
Great guy. Brilliant mentality and a very talented player. All the best, Mino!


 

 

17 Jun 2022 07:26:11
Ed001 at the start of last season Elliott looked liking being very much part of are starting 11 till his injury. With a full preseason hopefully he will be back to full strength and I see him starting ahead of Henderson who I see becoming back up to Fabinho. If this was to be the case I see VVD as the captain but who would you like to see become the captain when Henderson and Milner are not on the pitch my vote would go for Robbo think he shows great leadership qualities in the same way as Henderson remember him giving VVD a right ear full in one game for poor defending.

grino75

{Ed001's Note - Robbo or Trent for me.}


1.) 17 Jun 2022 07:40:15
I think i'd give it to Alisson, personally but it shouldn't matter really.


2.) 17 Jun 2022 08:16:25
I'd like to see Fab get it.


3.) 17 Jun 2022 08:47:46
Thiago for me.


4.) 17 Jun 2022 09:20:05
Official captaincy hierarchy is: Hendo, Milly, VVD, Trent, Robbo and Allison. I love the idea of Trent being the next captain.


5.) 17 Jun 2022 11:06:32
Trent for me. Local lad, role model lives and breathes the club and the city, and LFC legend.


6.) 17 Jun 2022 11:16:23
Love the thought of Trent as a long term Captain but surely as Hendo nd Millie depart it has to be Virgil, he inspires the whole team.


7.) 17 Jun 2022 12:14:42
Don’t the players chose who the order of captains are?
Being voted in there by your fellow teammates must be the greatest honour.


8.) 17 Jun 2022 12:45:48
Hi JK 23

Yes the players decide from 3rd choice captain down.

Back then they voted VVD as 3rd choice and Gini as 4th choice.


When Gini left the decision was made to have the players vote for a new 4th choice as well as a 5th and 6th choice. They subsequently voted for Trent, Robbie and Allison.


9.) 17 Jun 2022 17:26:38
Just out of curiosity. Nobody has thought of Salah for any of the captaincy and vice-captaincy roles. Why, and how come?


10.) 17 Jun 2022 19:44:13
ArAr. Because there is a big difference between being a great player and a great leader. It’s either natural or it isn’t. From watching Salah I don’t see him shouting, encouraging or generally being that leader type player we need like Hendo, Milner or VVD are.

Truth be told I don’t like the idea of Trent being captain for much the same reason. Finally I personally don’t actually like forwards or wide players to be captain at all. I think it should always be a CB or CM, positions where the player can see the play, communicate to all players on the pitch and influence the play and tempo of the game the most.

Captain material in the team for me at present is Hendo, Milner, VVD, Fabinho and I can’t really think much more past that. I can understand why people would say Robbo but again I’m not a fan of the wide players having the role. I know all should be leaders on the pitch though so maybe I am just a bit old fashioned!


 

 

16 Jun 2022 17:26:02
Ed001 why does Everybody keeps saying we are not signing a midfielder this window when we all ready signed one in Carvalho. With him and Elliott that's like two new midfielders, I think Carvalho might be the midfielder to add goals to the team. I would love Naby to be sold but that does not look like it's going to happen.

grino75

{Ed001's Note - people forget him because he didn't cost 50m.}


1.) 16 Jun 2022 20:42:33
I think most refer to a defensive midfielder as cover to fabinho.


2.) 16 Jun 2022 20:48:06
Ed001, do you see carvalho getting many games this season?

{Ed001's Note - I would expect so, it is a condensed season with a likelihood that our main midfield 3 being in need of rests, even if they avoid injury. Added to that the ability to make 5 subs makes it easier to start youngsters, as you can always take them off and still leave yourself with options for changes. Or bring them on more often.


3.) 16 Jun 2022 21:37:59
I am looking forward to seeing him play in a Klopp team. Plus we have (hopefully) a fully recovered Elliot and Jones. These three will surely benefit from the five subs introduction.

This could also be the case with Ramsey.


4.) 16 Jun 2022 22:20:06
Cookee I think Hendo will feature as much in the 6 role in rotation with Fabs as an 8 except in the biggest games. Imo he is very effective as a 6. Also makes room for Elliot.


5.) 17 Jun 2022 00:33:54
Don't forget Tyler Morton. He s a big talent.


6.) 17 Jun 2022 00:41:47
I suspect this is the nature of being a Liverpool fan. We hover like flies from one stinking pile of crap to the next really lol as in, If it's not one problem we are sure to find or manufacture another one.

I agree the midfield needs a refresh but with 8 current first team midfielders I don't see it as an urgent need that we would make a panic buy this summer.


7.) 16 Jun 2022 23:06:13
Where is his best position Ed001 in your opinion or where do you think Klopp sees him playing? RM or AM central? Do you see a formation change mate with the addition of Nunez?

{Ed001's Note - I don't think his best position is sorted yet, he is still young enough to develop into whichever role he is given. Long term I would think he will play in the midfield for us though and that will end up being his best position because of the experience he will gain.}


 

 

30 May 2022 09:43:25
Ed0666 I see in a post you would like to see Bobby leave this summer, am not sure how much we would get for him now not too much I guess. I think he has played well this season but he hails been effected by injuries a lot this season I hope it's just a one off I can't remember him suffering in the past to much with injuries so I would give him at least another year.
I think both Williams Phillips Ox Minamino need to go. I would like Jota and Naby to go as well but I think that would be too many for one window.
In defence I think only the young lad from Aberdeen needs to come for cover. I would like 2 midfielders Tchouameni and somebody like James Maddison to add goals from midfield and an number 9 Darwin Nunez would be great if Jota and Naby where to leave a right sided forward and maybe another midfielder but I think we should be ok without one with the young lads coming through.

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{Ed0666's Note - I think we need to evolve more than is considered reasonable. We need at least 4 players, cover for Trent, two midfielders and at least one forward if not two. Klopp has a project to tend do and I for one am looking forward to the results. It’s gonna be a magical mystery tour that’s for sure.


1.) 30 May 2022 10:24:55
Ed0666 you think we need and will make quite a few changes then mate 4/ 5 new arrivals?

{Ed0666's Note - I honestly think so mate. I’m not in any way certain but this is what I believe needs to happen.


2.) 30 May 2022 11:19:12
The evolution has started with Konate, Carvalho, Elliott and Diaz I would say. Jury will be out on Curtis and Jota for another season. Will also be interesting to see what steps Kaide Gordon takes next. He was electric in his cameos this season.

Sadio, Ox, Origi, Taki appear to be on their way out. Big decisions to make on Naby and Bobby this summer. Also a big decision to take on system as we need more goal threat through the middle - including more free tick/ long range shooting threats.

Personally would like Milly to stay with us to help the new generation with professional standards and mentality. But maybe Hendo is adequate to do that in the squad.


3.) 30 May 2022 12:25:50
Bobby needs to stay (IMO) - Millie will sign for another year as he finishes his coaching badges.


4.) 30 May 2022 12:27:18
Nunez, Phillips and Mount will do for this window, take a look at where we are in Jan if something else is missing, sell off the usual suspects and i'd be tempted to maybe sell Salah for Bownen, not sure on this big contract for him.


5.) 30 May 2022 12:36:55
I have a sneaky feeling that we might sit tight this summer regarding the attacking group and instead we strengthen the midfield.

Up front we have Bobby, Jota, Diaz, Mo. Taki may go, but I would love for him to stay and be given a real shot. He offers so much life to the attacking group and he is desperate to prove himself. But even if he is sold in the summer we still have Carvalho coming an and Elliot who is really an attacking player.

I see that there may be a chance we go into the season with that group and then re-assess heading into Jan.


6.) 30 May 2022 14:11:17
I can see your logic, Faithinworks. For me though, there is absolutely no way we lose Mane, Origi and Minamino from our forward options and sign nobody. Carvalho and Elliott in my opinion are more Ox Keita replacements. They can cover iniuries to the frontline though for sure.

Diaz, Jota and Salah compete for the wide areas. Bobby and a new signing compete for the centre forward role. I think our success this season in all competitions (coupled with the new 5 sub rule next season) has really driven home the need for 5 top forward options.


7.) 30 May 2022 14:15:40
Faith if qe were to not sign an attacker it could be dangerous for us as we will lose at least 3 of the front line (all be it a couple who hardly play) but we will be left with nobody to cover for rotation or injuries.


8.) 30 May 2022 10:59:11
Ed0666 Yeah we have one forward come in all ready Ed I think Fábio Carvalho can cover Diaz so need to add a striker to replace Mane and if we could get a bite on Jota that would be great to get somebody like the Antony from Ajax to cover Salah and get ready to replace him next season as I don’t see him signing now.

{Ed0666's Note - doesent Antony have a tonne of behavioral issues?


9.) 30 May 2022 12:49:40
I really do not see us making wholesale changes, as it would be a kneejerk reaction. It was a somewhat disappointing ending but we challenged on all fronts so there is clearly a great deal of quality in this squad. I hope we can sway Mane to stay as he is critical for me.

I do agree Ed that midfield could do with refreshing. I hope we add another DM to relieve Fabinho at times and another goalscoring midfielder. Whether Jones or Elliott can step, we'll have to wait and see. Personally I think they can become useful squad players but not really hit the level we're looking for (elite first teamer) . That being said, they're both young and have potential so let's see how they get on.


10.) 30 May 2022 17:50:32
'Another goalscoring midfielder'?
I didn't realise we had one.


11.) 30 May 2022 20:51:30
Should have clarified another midfielder who’s a goal scorer*.


 

 

 

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27 Jun 2022 13:56:06
Doesn’t he want more money than Salah.

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26 Jun 2022 21:54:44
Ed0666 I thought it was just Carroll attitude he could have been a very good player destroyed Terry in a game. But it was his drinking effecting him injured all the time.

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{Ed0666's Note - I’m not sure caroll had the talent even if he’d acquired the application mate. Wasn’t even that great at Newcastle if you ask me.


 

 

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26 Jun 2022 10:35:23
Taki and Div hardly needed replacing with the amount of minutes they played in the league. Cup games I see Gordon playing the minutes Taki did in the early cup rounds. With Bobby Jota as the main back ups to are forwards no AFCON this season so we won’t be losing 2 of are main forwards less minutes to go around it all so looks as if Ox is staying for at least the last year of his contract we seemed stacked with players. For me if we do sign anybody else this window we need to get rid of players first that are not going to play to many minutes. Like if we do sign another midfielder Naby and Ox need to go otherwise we are just going to be blocking Elliott and Carvalho’s minutes.

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23 Jun 2022 07:11:22
There is no abuse there was so ever don’t recall Jadon ever being like that on this site I think Ed just took my question the wrong way.

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22 Jun 2022 21:24:04
I was just asking as I had seen something about him on the internet but not seen him and did not know if he was being overrated.

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25 Jun 2022 17:55:59
Ed0666 We signed Carvalho, Elliott will be back to his best after a full preseason plus Elliott and Jones are a year older. Tyler Morton might even be closer. Unless Naby goes I can’t see us signing any body else and I don’t think there is to much interest in him unless some team has Stevie Wonder as head of recruitment.

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{Ed0666's Note - True dat. Not selling The Ox is a curious one tho I would have thought we’d wanna get some money for him seeing as he’s out of contract next season. Obviously the club think it’s worth keeping him as he knows the dynamics of the team! I hope Harvey is back to his best because that kids injury cost us a league title I think. Surely his presence in a few more matches would have got us another 3-4 points last season.


 

 

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25 Jun 2022 05:07:16
Yeah £50+m would bite there hand off we still did ok last 6 months of last season without much contributing from Mo. Get the lad from Leeds even with a Barcelona clause as long as we get a profit on him who cares short term fix with a profit.

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25 Jun 2022 05:01:17
I think for up to £50m it’s an awful signing another over rated English player Grealish mark 2 for me. Spurs sign Bissouma for half the price and twice the player.

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22 Jun 2022 21:32:30
Lfcsammy he did not play 176 minutes that’s how often he scored.

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21 Jun 2022 11:15:23
WDW I see that yesterday then just see it on sky sports new this morning with what ed002 has said about Naby not sure if he will get a work permit in Italy probably just a bit of click bait. But we can only dream that would put and end to a great transfer window.

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