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06 Jan 2024 12:40:12
Ed002 any truth in us making an opening bid for goncalo inacio seen a few things on the internet. Think I it's just click bait seems very unlikely with the amount being mentioned as only £26m.


{Ed002's Note - No, but an offer has been made by Arsenal but I expect it to be rejected.}



14 Sep 2023 07:34:35
ed002 any truth in the rumours of Thiago making a move to turkey before there transfer window closes.


{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach to LIverpool.}

1.) 14 Sep 2023 11:29:26
I doubt it will happen mainly because I don't think the player would be willing to take a significant enough wage cut to make it happen and also clearly still has eyes on a return to Barcelona as a free agent by the sounds of things.

From Liverpools point of view I think it would have to be considered even for minimal or no fee.

You are talking a saving of 10-15 mill on wages and healthcare! I think we would be in a healthy situation moving forward financially with the reduction in wage budget this summer especially if things did accept a move. also if there was a move on the table so all a moot point I guess!

2.) 14 Sep 2023 11:45:24
I am wondering if Trent is going to sign a new deal, or intends to leave on a free in 2025.

3.) 14 Sep 2023 12:48:49
PickleRick I'm pretty sure the a few of the turkish teams could afford decent wages.

4.) 14 Sep 2023 13:53:49
I'd rather keep Thiago for the season and lose him for free in the summer. He is still quality but he's had to play too many games the past few seasons because of injuries, then he picks up his own injuries because of that. I think he has a lot to offer this season if his minutes are managed better.

5.) 14 Sep 2023 14:02:39
You should email the club @Centrepoint, they might have an idea.

6.) 14 Sep 2023 14:43:53
I don't see Trent going anywhere. There is plenty of time to get a deal worked out.

7.) 14 Sep 2023 16:16:07
Liverpools club doctor and physios are in for a long, boring season aren’t they. ?
Ox, Naby and now Thiago!

8.) 14 Sep 2023 16:45:46
Centerpoint keeps asking the same question about Trent's contract, he's desperate for him to not sign one.

9.) 14 Sep 2023 20:13:24
Barca just signed Cancelo, that solves their Right back imbalance, Balde plays the left side, so I don’t see Trent being looked at.

Tell you what tho, Barcelona RW Yamal looks a prospect tho, full Spanish cap and goal to boot, left footed, see if he continues.

10.) 14 Sep 2023 23:03:50
Cancelo is average at best from what I’ve seen of him.

11.) 15 Sep 2023 07:11:56
WDW, it’s all good, we didn’t sign him.

12.) 15 Sep 2023 08:35:30
The point being that Barcelona might actually want a useful rb in a season or two.

{Ed002's Note - Barcelona know exactly who the long-term solution for them at RB is and have shown no interest at all in TAA.}

13.) 15 Sep 2023 18:31:16
Is Cancelo average? Always looked very good to me.

14.) 15 Sep 2023 23:36:10
Thanks Ed02.

15.) 17 Sep 2023 21:29:21
Personally I see Trent moving on next summer if an extension to his contract is not agreed, he’s too valuable to let leave on a free, but I don’t see him getting the assurance that’s he will be played in midfield which is clearly where he sees his future, I don’t see him playing midfield for us anytime soon on a regular basis.



29 Aug 2023 11:57:08
Ed002 with us after Lavia before Fabinho left and with no plan to sell this summer now he has gone do you think the club will look to add another Dm in the future. I can't see Endo as much of a long term plan but if we do add another he could be like Milner for the squad with being able to fill in a few places.
I do think the prices this summer have been a little over the top especially for players with premier league experience. The price quoted for andre trindade seem a bargain compared to doucoure.


{Ed002's Note - I think prioritising another strictly DM player now would be a mistake. The priority should be elsewhere. Perhaps if Bajcetic were to not be given a chance and leave Liverpool could look to another - that depends on Klopp of course. Find a versatile CM player like Gravenberch or Amrabat etc. then perhaps that would suit.}

1.) 29 Aug 2023 12:54:56
Would Bajcetic be that versatile CM player? He do play a lot alongside Fab last season and look better than playing as a lone DM. Then perhaps we could look to a more proven 1st choice DM and Endo could become a squad player instead like Milner being able to cover few positions.

{Ed002's Note - He is a youngster - they won't know.}

2.) 29 Aug 2023 13:11:23
Ed002 do you the Bajcetic is a Dm seems he played as an 8 a lot last season when he looked at his best.

{Ed002's Note - He is a youngster who the club will be hoping is adaptable.}

3.) 29 Aug 2023 13:18:26
Bajcetic has the potential to be our best midfielder so he has to have game time. Endo takes the Milner role.

4.) 29 Aug 2023 13:55:24
I adore the kid. I really hope he kicks on this season.

5.) 29 Aug 2023 14:01:13
Why do you think recruting a pure DM would be a mistake, Ed002? You don't see the use for him, or you just think the time and money can be better utilzed?

Kind regards

{Ed002's Note - There are others who can play there and the need is CM.}

6.) 29 Aug 2023 15:09:43
Bajcetic is not a DM. I view him as part of a double pivot with a destroyer alongside to give the ball to him and let him play. He is more an alonso/ Thiago player and we need a mascherano type alongside him. Would view him as the CM cover we need and should be going for another primary DM who can cover CM if needed not the other way round.

{Ed002's Note - You need a "Klopp Out" sign, perhaps with "Bajcetic Out" on the other side.}

7.) 29 Aug 2023 15:13:03
Any update on negotiations etc eds? Is Gravenberch likely? Seems a hard one to get over line and he prefers united?

{Ed002's Note - I have no interest whatsoever of trying to give blow-by-blow updates.}

8.) 29 Aug 2023 15:56:06
Just because Bajectic has the vision to see a pas, ability to perform that pass and good in tight spaces doesn’t mean he’s not a DM. He played his entire youth career as a CB and having those abilities probably makes him the best suited player we have at being a DM, based on my not knowing much about Endo just yet. I remember him ‘destroying’ plenty during his short run in the team last year before his injury.
Alisson scored a blinder of a header a couple of seasons ago but he’s not a striker is he?

9.) 29 Aug 2023 16:04:20
Bajcetic in my opinion looked ready to be a regular in the team. I’m not sure there’s need to panic buy Elliot came on against Newcastle and looked good endo needs a bit of time with the team the new lads look good and it’s only been 3 games. Thiago I know has had a lot of criticism on here but if he’s fit he is world class. Gomez looked good and is still only 26 I believe so in summary macca szobo endo Elliot Jones bajcetic thiago 7 players 3 places. Up top looks good just imo light at right back. Gomez and Trent but I’d prefer to see gomez as cb vvd konate matip quansah I like seeing youth coming through with the experience of vvd Thiago Salah on the field. Also if we had another right back Trent can be a cm option. My opinion squad looks good matip who I think is great needs replacing and we need a rb maybe dm cover maybe. But I think that’s greedy. Also I think early days but szobo looks like a special player.

10.) 29 Aug 2023 16:56:38
Far too sensible Harrhy.
That’s a grown up response to a realistic appraisal of our squad.

We have, and always have had, a blend of our and our specialists and a mix of multi-use players.
We have a good mix right now.

11.) 29 Aug 2023 19:50:05
I'm really surprised some fans don't see Bajetic as a DM, and someone said he was 'no 8'.

He's a pure DM through and through in my eyes, and that's where he'll play this season. I'm excited for him, Szobo, and Mac to play together.

Elsewhere, thanks for all the input and interactions over the summer Ed002!

12.) 29 Aug 2023 21:15:38
Bajcetic is a kid learning his trade, klopp will play him in different positions until one fits both the team and the player long term. It's far too early to place a label on him as either a 6 or an 8.
Take trent for example, he was a midfielder then broke into the first team due to a shortage of quality in the right back position. Elliot was predominantly a winger in his Fulham days and again predominantly at rovers.
These are just kids who need time to develop without the pressure of being labelled one way or the other. Baj will at some point have a dip in form so to put the pressure on him as being a first teamer it will just knock his confidence. He, along with Tyler morton, quansah, Gordon Doak and all the other kids with potential need to be given the time by the fans and in turn the media who let's be honest, after a handful of good games start with the call up to the international squads.
There's so little patience these days. I remember Wayne Harrison signing for us from Oldham and he was going to be the next Ian rush, too much pressure on the kid from the off and it ended up a terribly sad story for that lad. who else remembers him?

13.) 29 Aug 2023 21:23:16
Bajcetic. when i was 18. I hadn't had a beer. Wasn't comfortable in my own skin. My mum was my hero. Acne, fashion. the right words, standing normally. back off people, give the guy a break. let him grow! . I am probably over sensitive about allowing kids to be kids and find their own mojo.

14.) 29 Aug 2023 21:48:22
once Baj gets a few games under his belt, I really think that he will be a fans favorite .

15.) 30 Aug 2023 05:33:09
So no pressure on the lad then.

16.) 30 Aug 2023 06:30:32
I’d love for us to get a top top CDM given how much pressure we put on that position with our style of play, and then we can let Endo be our Milner/ Super sub.

As for Bajcetic, he’s a fantastic talent, but he’s still a young kid so we should ease him in, just like Man City did Foden. Bajcetic should still be able to get plenty of time, as he’s very capable at either 6 or 8, and playing him slightly further forward is a far better option than using Gakpo there (who is an out and out forward IMO) .



22 Aug 2023 13:51:45
Ed002 could you see us bidding for Andre this window for him to come in January would cut out the risk of other side that are not interested coming in for him if things change for them by January.


{Ed002's Note - I am not sure Flumimemse would be interested in that unless paying over the odds now.}

1.) 22 Aug 2023 14:29:12
Just a thought - Andre seems to be our preferred 'younger' CDM and it looks like we could save money by pushing for him in Jan (maybe getting a deal done in the next couple of months with Fluminese for a Jan transfer) .

Would a loan for the year give him the opportunity to arrive and settle in whilst providing cover for Endo and Baj?

Could that loan be *cough* Kalvin Phillips *cough*

*runs away under a hail of rotten tomatoes*.

2.) 22 Aug 2023 15:40:36
I believe the 2 main problems are that Fluminense only own 80% of him and they want to keep him whilst they are still in the Copa Libertadores.

The second leg of the quarter final finishes at 1:30pm uk time on transfer deadline day. If they lose we would have 19.5 hours to finalise the deal. It would mean no defender though unless they are homegrown or young enough not to count!

{Ed002's Note - The transfer window is shut so they cannot replace him.}

3.) 22 Aug 2023 15:24:56
Zed, I am a man with a very particular set of skills. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you retract that statement now that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you, but if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you and I will kill you.

4.) 22 Aug 2023 16:04:47
Davey, I can't stop imagining Seth Macfarlane as Kermit the Frog saying those exact lines and giggling! Google it, it's hilarious!

5.) 22 Aug 2023 16:18:31
We seem to be making a real mess of getting a DM on the door don’t we. Bidding for players who agreed to go elsewhere or players that with complications.

6.) 22 Aug 2023 16:24:40
Zed, this is what happens to your brain when you don't medicate that nasty cough you seem to have. Take some syrup immediately. And watch such thoughts (loaning in Philips) disappear as if they were never ever there. ?.

7.) 22 Aug 2023 16:26:38
Davey, I'm with you if you need a person to play "lookout" for you if it's needed.

8.) 22 Aug 2023 18:27:12
God the doubters are back in force!

Get behind your team I say!


9.) 22 Aug 2023 20:57:06
Daretodream, you mean like Endo, the player we got in just 5 days ago?

10.) 22 Aug 2023 20:58:38
Zeddicus, I bet you wouldn't find those quotes hilarious had Miss Piggy made them. I promise you that, lol.

11.) 22 Aug 2023 21:26:49
You’re dead right there Oli, if Miss Piggy had said them they would be even more chilling than Liam Neeson saying them!



21 Aug 2023 20:32:53
Ed002 is Leeds interest In Phillips gone now they signed the lad from spurs on loan.


{Ed002's Note - Klopp has said no more sales so clubs will ok elsewhere. I have no idea why this keeps happening. There was interest from elsewhere as well.}

1.) 21 Aug 2023 21:54:58
Not even a loan, Ed?

2.) 21 Aug 2023 22:14:40
Maybe klopp can see him playing euro league and cup games, maybe integrate him back into the side ready for matip going next year?
If he thinks he has a future with us.

3.) 22 Aug 2023 01:59:58
Jesus snoots, the bloke is not going to play ahead of Matip and Gomez because he is not good enough, when are people going to realise this, its leeds that were interested not Madrid.

4.) 22 Aug 2023 04:21:49
Apart from the club, who knows what our plans might be, let alone why we might have a particular plan. Not having heard Klopp’s comments and in what context they may have been made, I think it is rash to try and second guess what the club might do. I certainly wouldn’t agree with the idea that the club amending its plans to meet a changing situation means that everything said before is a lie.

5.) 22 Aug 2023 05:29:02
And to our point being @WDW? We should stop asking the Ed’s?

6.) 22 Aug 2023 06:40:44
Absolutely not Habibi, the Ed’s provide are very informative. But they are not infallible - nobody is. Sometimes things change, sometimes very quickly, like the situations in this window with Szoboszlai, Caicedo and Endo. The real source of truth at any given time is the club. This is a rumours and banter site for fans to speculate and give their opinions, which is cool, it serves its purpose, most of the time, but it’s not the source of truth about the club.

7.) 22 Aug 2023 08:42:20
Ed002 I think is very stupid by the club with Phillips looks like we are going to price him out of a move and then end up losing him for nothing same way we did with ox and Naby it’s not just the fee we lose but paying his wages of around £60k a week to hardly ever play.

8.) 22 Aug 2023 08:53:46
Why believe what Klopp says in his press conferences? We have known for years that he lies to avoid any one player in his squad, whether he wants to keep them or not, becoming a media/ press target.

9.) 22 Aug 2023 09:43:57
My thought is that Klopp was referring to sales of first team regulars particularly to Saudi sides given the stories around Alison and Mo.

If Nat or Joel are sold then that would not surprise me.

10.) 22 Aug 2023 09:47:30
Nat Phillips will be the first player ever to get a testimonial with less than 50 appearances.

11.) 22 Aug 2023 10:15:41
@Tommy that was the way I read it. From an outgoing perspective I think Hendo and Fabs going even took the club by surprise and I think the same thing that no more ‘guaranteed’ starters will be leaving.

12.) 22 Aug 2023 11:32:29
all this talk of bringing in a new LCB, is it too wild to think we play 3 of our current CBs and have VVD at LCB? I mean if we're desperate and Robbo continues to struggle, why not?

13.) 22 Aug 2023 13:01:41
He'll be 27 next season he absolutley doesn't have a future with us. He had a handful of ok games 2.5 years ago. We've wasted his career by not letting him go to the championship to play regularly.




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14 Apr 2024 11:10:20
Ed001 I would expect Kelleher leave in the summer think this run of games has shown he is to good to be a number 2. We should get good money for him to help the new manager bring in some players he wants. Do you know if Marcelo Pitaluga is ready to step up as our number 2.
Cheers Ed.


{Ed001's Note - as a number 2 I think so. Kelleher needs to go get regular first team football for his own sake. He is nowhere near good enough to challenge Alisson, so he would be better served moving on I think.}

1.) 14 Apr 2024 11:52:12
Such a shame for Kelleher, seems a really good keeper, but you can never have 2 amazing keepers and keep them both happy.
I guess you have to keep developing them and moving them on when they peak, shame as usually having a "normal" number 2 basically loses you games. We've been really lucky this year.

2.) 14 Apr 2024 11:59:23
That's the right call. Kelleher is rightfully No. 2 at LFC, but if he wants to start elsewhere then the club should facilitate that. He's not overtaking Alison. Not now and not in another 5 years.

3.) 14 Apr 2024 19:29:50
100% should be a buy back clause.

4.) 14 Apr 2024 21:20:51
Ed01, the fact that Ali came back today and played like he never left, should tell Kellerher and his reps that it is time to go and gt a career of his own. I mean, Ali can prolly roll out of bed and go drop a masterclass in goal, he makes it look that easy.



28 Mar 2024 09:28:05
Ed001 do you think it's time to cash in on Tsimikas this summer while he still has good value and let Chambers take his role or do you think one more season on loan at a higher level would be better.
With the new champions league format and other cup competitions there could be plenty of game time for Chambers to develop within the first team squad.


{Ed001's Note - Chambers has not shown himself to be ready and I would say that Robertson is the one that is probably closer to being surplus with his fitness issues + age. If anything I would say Beck is the one that would be closest to coming in on the left.}

1.) 28 Mar 2024 10:23:30
Controversial suggestion: Trent at left back? I'm not a fan of inverting, but with the way we get Gomez to do it from left back at times, imo it'd put Trent in a good area for him to use his passing ability and leave right back open for Bradley.

2.) 28 Mar 2024 10:52:21
Nah, SR, not with that. Gomez has is a brilliant defender as in, he is a defensive Swiss army knife and has the mentality to play any position in the back line due to his mentality, professionalism and determination to get on the pitch and of his job, regardless of where he is. You can add players like Milner or even Kevin Grosskreutz that Klopp had at Dortmund who was well, his Swiss army knife.

Trent is a diff. type of player, IMO. He is a provider who thrives most in a specific position he is more than used to playing hence, RB. Putting him at LB would essentially put shackles on him preventing him from being the best he can be cos the team depends on him being at his best hence, playing at his best and most productive position. Just my opinion.

3.) 28 Mar 2024 10:53:42
In fairness to Robbo he’s usually pretty reliable when it comes to injuries and his big injury miss this season was for a broken or dislocated collar bone which could happen to anyone.

He doesn’t really fall into the injury prone category like the Matip and Thiagos of the squad who will be leaving in the summer.

I’m more concerned with the amount of injuries Jota, Jones and Bajetic seem to get though.

4.) 28 Mar 2024 11:22:42
How many injuries has Bajcetic had, Jk? I thought it was just the same growing pains issue.

5.) 28 Mar 2024 11:48:06
Jota and Jones were impact injuries this time round so I won't hold it against them. It happens in contact sports. I'd be more worried if they were muscular injuries. Jones used to suffer them fairly frequently in the past but he has been quite reliable this season.

As for Baj, he seems to just have growing pains which is fairly common in young athletes. He seems to be over them though so it is looking good for him.

6.) 28 Mar 2024 12:15:07
Idream and Drac I’m not suggesting we move those 3 on as I’m big fans of them all.

It was just regarding injury concerns and I’m just suggesting I’m more worried about them 3 than Robbo.

Just to add context

Baj has more or less missed the entire season (calf and adductor injury’s are what transfer market stats are reporting.

Jota has missed about 40% of the season

Jones has missed about 35% of the season.

Which actually doesn’t sound a lot in percent but it’s a third of the season missed and we could go back further than just this season.

7.) 28 Mar 2024 22:23:22
I’d say Robbo is the most likely candidate to leave, although it is most likely at the end of next season, imo.

He doesn’t maraud down the left side like he did about 3 or 4 years agp and I don’t think he looks suited to the inverted full back thing.

I reckon Tsimi is going to be a squad player however long he stays so we probably need Beck or Chambers to shine in the coming pre-season and set themselves up as the ‘most likely contender’ for the 25/ 26 season.

8.) 28 Mar 2024 23:30:53
Dont know whos leaving but wouldn't be surprised at all to see lloyd kelly arriving On a free to strenghten the left hand side.



16 Mar 2024 08:01:12
Ed001 I don't think the champions league draw could have been any better for us. Hope city and Arsenal both go through Pep's rivalry with Madrid and the Kane factor with Arsenal make both games that little bit bigger. Then if they both go through what I would expect to more massive games that really will put the pressure on both teams.


{Ed001's Note - whereas I would say a defeat for both would be better for Liverpool as it would knock their confidence and set them back badly.}

1.) 16 Mar 2024 09:33:15
I agree with Arsenal but I think Man City would bounce back hard but would love them knocked out by Arsenal in the Semis.

2.) 16 Mar 2024 09:03:43
I think if we’re looking at this then we’re conceding that we didn’t do enough tog et the 3 points vs City ?

Who knows really, I’ve got no sense for it but imagine that for City whether they’re in CL or not for remainder of the season it won’t make a difference for them in the league. For Arsenal we’ll have to see. But I think they have elevated beyond being impacted by distraction of multiple comps.

3.) 16 Mar 2024 09:06:26
Liverpool seemed to do ok competing on both fronts.

4.) 16 Mar 2024 09:23:53
Theirs no easy games for all 3 teams every game throws up its own challenge . Although seeing city and Arsenal go toe to toe in a European semi will be good as it takes a lot out of the team and fans it ultimately means 1 team reaches the final which is not good . So I’d love to see Bayern and Madrid do a job on them and I’d say Madrid are better than they were 12 months ago and city aren’t as good . So could be interesting and il be honest I think Arsenal will struggle against Bayern over 2 legs they mad a meal out of Porto when that should have been a pretty comfortable tie over 2 legs . It shows me the chinks in the armour of both teams and really think everything is on the table for this Liverpool team .

5.) 16 Mar 2024 10:13:29
Of the 3 teams in the title race I think we are in the best shape. The injuries could’ve derailed us but they haven’t and now we have players coming back in time for the run in.

I honestly think Arsenal peaked too soon and are now on a downward spiral performance wise. They will tire also as they have to play the same players every game.

City are City and will get results but they are not the winning machine they have been in the past.

I think all 3 teams will drop points between now and the end of the season but if I had to put a bet on it I think with the momentum we have and the players coming back fresh and ready, plus the emotion of Klopp leaving we will come out on top.

It’ll be exciting either way and we can’t lose sight of how lucky we are to support a club that’s in the hunt. With a bit of luck we’ll go all the way.

6.) 16 Mar 2024 09:00:47
I know you don't like to make predictions, Ed, but do you see either of those two possibilities happening? Real Madrid will always have an extra gear in the Champions League but Man City are just a better team, while Bayern are just a mess at the moment and I’m not sure they have the organization, structure or sheer belief to put away Arsenal over two legs.

{Ed001's Note - it certainly could happen. Bayern do seem to have a hold over Arsenal in recent years and Madrid are Madrid. If they are both going to go out at once, this was the only way it will happen. I can't see anyone else in the comp that can beat them.}

7.) 16 Mar 2024 11:46:59
Both draws couldn't have gone any better, including the routes to the finals. Arsenal and City squads will be sufficiently tested.

Now for us to get our players back and attack this last quarter of the season after the international break. I am so excited to have Trent, Curtis, Jota, Alisson, Gravenberch and even Bajcetic back and available for selection soon.

8.) 16 Mar 2024 12:21:20
City won the treble last season BP, that seems very much like a winning machine to me mate ?.

9.) 16 Mar 2024 12:35:34
BP I don’t think Arsenal have peaked they beat us because we were awful and gifted them 2 goals and they have had a good run because of the teams they have just played. But I think once the international break is over they have harder games coming up and they will start to struggle to score goals again.
I just don’t understand the loving in media for Arsenal.

10.) 16 Mar 2024 13:46:58
BP - while you are correct with us having players coming back for the run in, it will be almost April when that happens, and it will take a few games for hem to get up to proper match fitness, so that could be a disadvantage.

Only might be though.

11.) 16 Mar 2024 14:22:12
I think Madrid are bang average as a team . They do however have that winning mentality and perform when it matters. Bellingham could truly show if he's THAT special or rodri could do a number on him. Vincious is top class when he wants to be. Bayern are also there for the taking unless they land early blows to arsenal.

12.) 16 Mar 2024 15:24:40
Madrid’s average team seems to beat us no problem. I have heard RM have had an average team for the last 5 years .

13.) 16 Mar 2024 15:26:32
Arsenal are going to get a hiding by Bayern.

14.) 16 Mar 2024 16:19:04
i hope both gets knocked out!
1, it will deflate them
2, with both potentially going trophyless, it'll be pretty nice if it really happened when we nick the title
3, can't see any side from the other bracket winning against them unless we are to see something like how we won it against Milan in 2005 or how Chelsea won at Bayern's home. it did be funny though if AM does a Mourinho and wins it against City.

15.) 16 Mar 2024 21:14:34
Irish, what has last season got to do with it? We are talking about now.

City aren’t as good as they were last season at the moment.

16.) 16 Mar 2024 21:35:29
Markp08 - Real Madrid clearly aren’t bang average, but they HAVE downgraded almost every position in their starting XI since 2018 except for Bellingham and Courtois.
We’ve always struggled with top Spanish teams during Klopp’s reign. Granted, we’ve had some amazing results but the majority of the time we’ve lost. Atletico and Real aren’t overawed by raucous atmospheres, and the latter, especially, have always had amazing technical quality in midfield to ensure they can start controlling a game.
Madrid have typically struggled to contain Man City because Man City are the only team in Europe to match them technically and at that point they don’t have the organization or tactics to compete, hence they either rely on absurd flukes (2022), or they get thumped (2020, 2023).
Enough rambling. Madrid are good but they are about to get thrashed by City, sadly.

17.) 17 Mar 2024 08:40:53
I am pretty sure that in previous seasons, being beaten in the Champions League has had little to no effect on Man City’s performance in the Premiership.

Unsure why it would be different this season.

18.) 17 Mar 2024 12:59:07
Spot on, StEtienneAmen. Makes no difference at all to Man City's PL season. They bottled the CL 6 of the last 7 seasons under Pep BUT didn't stop them winning the PL in some of those seasons.



05 Mar 2024 20:35:53
Ed001 there seems to be loads of reports coming out today that Alonso is leaning towards Bayern.
I hope it's not true I do find it strange that he would let that out with what is going on in the league over there.
I must admit Ed I can't think of one manager I would like if we didn't get Alonso when Klopp made his announcement I thought Alonso would be great and the timing seemed perfect.
I don't get all the talk comparing us to when Fergy left because even if they had just won the league there team was at its end all over the pitch.
I just hope if we don't get Alonso is not De Zerbri.


{Ed001's Note - I think the talk of him having decided to go to Bayern is mischief-making to try and unsettle Leverkusen right now. It really doesn't make any sense to go there imo.}

1.) 06 Mar 2024 00:49:11
I’m with you Ed. There’s the obvious reason that he’d basically become a Leverkusen legend by winning the league then stick two fingers up at them and join their biggest rivals for the title next season. Why would he do that?

Also if he goes to Bayern he basically has to win the league next season. Nothing else would be acceptable.

I think he’d get more time at Liverpool as he’s up against City, nobody would expect him to win the league straight away. He could put his mark on the players, the club and the fans in a way that just would not be afforded to him at Bayern.

Plus he wouldn’t be spitting in Leverkusen’s face by joining their biggest rival.

I don’t know Alonso so I have no idea what he’s thinking but I think he’ll either join Liverpool or stay where he is and possibly join Madrid after Ancelotti. I’d be massively surprised if he goes to Bayern.

2.) 06 Mar 2024 05:44:02
Do you see him staying at Leverkusen for another year Ed1? He doesn't seem to be someone who rush to new opportunities if he doesn't think he is ready for it. If I'm not mistaken he did stay at Sociedad B longer even when he got offer from Germany because he didn't think he is ready for it.

{Ed001's Note - I don't think there is anything more he can really hope to achieve there if he wins the Bundesliga though, so it seems a bit pointless to stay there.}

3.) 06 Mar 2024 06:37:33
Looking at it from xabis point of view and taking off my lfc glasses I do believe lfc would be his best move and should go this summer.
There negatives as well to going to lfc, following klopp impossible task for anybody, link he has between himself and fans wo t be replicated by next man whoever he is.
He will have much smaller budget than his rivals and lfc at this stage expect to be competing toe to toe with our rivals regardless of budget.
I still think he will go to us as ed1 has said above I don't really see what way it can go in Germany next season only down, I presume best players of leverkusan will be picked off by other teams as generally happens a team like leverkusan.
If he wins next 5 bundisligas with bayern it still won't match winning 1 with leverkusan.
At lfc he will see that he has excellent group of players 19-25,just at right age who he could build team around. If he turns down lfc whoever next manager is, if he gets it right, could be here 10 years, xabi chance may have passed him at lfc.

4.) 06 Mar 2024 09:52:36
For me it would be a very odd choice to go to Bayern. They are currently Leverkusen's main rivals and whilst I know he would love to manage Bayern at some point you would like to think that he has more respect for Leverkusen than to jump ship directly to their main rival.

5.) 06 Mar 2024 10:26:10
"Ed001's Note - I think the talk of him having decided to go to Bayern is mischief-making to try and unsettle Leverkusen right now. It really doesn't make any sense to go there imo. "

I said the exact same thing multiple times already. Bayern do this all the time when they get desperate and are playing catch-up in a title race that they know they will more than likely lose. I pay no attention to the clickbait nonsense esp. coming from German media sympathetic to Bayern's cause. Nothing to see here, me thinks.



26 Feb 2024 12:44:33
All so ed001 I would like to hold my hands up because I was moaning when we signed Endo but what a signing he has turned out to be. When I did moan I said I hope am proven wrong but even if being proven wrong I would not of thought I could have been so wrong.
He is just getting better and better every game when he plays we looks so much tighter and harder to score past.


{Ed001's Note - he has been fantastic. I expected him to be good, the reaction of the Stuttgart fans to him going told me we had a good player, but I didn't expect him to be this good.}

1.) 26 Feb 2024 13:03:34
Amen Grino.

2.) 26 Feb 2024 13:13:42
I also doubted the move . how stupid was i? I would like more japanese players because of him the proffesionalism is impeccable.

3.) 26 Feb 2024 13:19:15
I was sceptical when we signed him, but what a player. He does the simple things well. Never shirks a challenge, has made himself an important member of the team. He’s worked really hard to get up to speed, a really important cog in the machine.

4.) 26 Feb 2024 13:19:18
Hats off to you, Grino75. Like you Ed01, I did not know Endow but I saw all the Bundesliga experts saying how good he was at Stuttgart and even the Stuttgart fans said LFC were signing an absolute baller alongside being capt. of their club (I think) and of Japan.

In his first games, I saw a few things that told me he is a veteran DM who knows the position inside out. Now like you and many, I did not know he would/ could be this awesome a footballer even at 31. Just shows that we can all improve in this world regardless of age.

5.) 26 Feb 2024 13:29:16
The Japanese Liverpool fan who did an in-depth analysis of Endo on YouTube needs to take a bow. Everything he said about Endo was spot on!

6.) 26 Feb 2024 13:29:37
This Wataru guy's an absolute warrior in every sense of the word. He approaches every mach in Red kit like he's going for a battle; gum shield and all. A pure Samurai! Plus, he's as low maintenance as far as low maintenance go!
I'm so glad we have someone like him in our team. Long may it continue! YNWA.

7.) 26 Feb 2024 14:22:24
StEtienneAmen, I've seen that guy do his thing too. He is brilliant.

8.) 26 Feb 2024 17:48:35
Endo has surpassed all expectations. Become an integral part of the spine of the team.

9.) 26 Feb 2024 22:42:34
I think the vast majority of us didn't expect much from him mate, it felt like a panic buy at the time. But wow, he's something else, I never expected to see what we're seeing from him. He's already so passionate when he plays and puts in everything. Long may it continue.




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25 Mar 2024 19:36:45
I think he is another player that I hear how good he is jet every time I see him he looks bang average like Timo Werner and Caicedo I believed the hype and hope we signed both and am so glad we didn’t.
I really hope we go nowhere near him I would rather have Danns in the squad rather than blowing £100+m on another vastly overrated player.




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17 Mar 2024 14:11:08
Ed025 me and you talked about that before how we would love to go back to the mid 80s where it the city of Liverpool vs the world but like you said to me it’s gone to far now. And it looks it’s only getting worse with the younger generation.


{Ed025's Note - i wish we were wrong grino but unfortunately we are not mate, now i know we are talking utopia here but being nice to others should not be beyond the realms of possibility, but maybe im an old fuddy duddy and respect does not mean as much as it used to, its a sad old world my friend..



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17 Mar 2024 11:58:36
Ed025 I think it’s great on some aspects but derby day going to each others grounds adds to the game.
So not for me. I would never want to leave Anfield to move to a new stadium on our own or sharing it’s where our heart is.
Anfield could be further extended in the future with the kop it’s just the A road issue. As for the KD stand obviously it’s the houses behind and the mess with the houses bought behind the main stand. As for transport there is talk about opening the old line what would be close enough to make the ground eligible for a larger capacity.
If there is still a high demand for seats with the money in brings into the city with fans coming from all over the country and world am sure the council and club could sort out all issues.


{Ed025's Note - I just thought it would be great for the city Grino. Bring the supporters closer together and all that mate..



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27 Feb 2024 21:39:57
Am sure he can do a good job there even seven hag did ok there.




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12 Feb 2024 15:27:21
L8 he is a Liverpool fan so I think he would love to manage us didn’t only leave because of a fall out with Rafa when he tried forcing him out of the club to replace his Barry.
I think he will be the Liverpool manager next season but only time will tell.





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16 Mar 2024 12:35:34
BP I don’t think Arsenal have peaked they beat us because we were awful and gifted them 2 goals and they have had a good run because of the teams they have just played. But I think once the international break is over they have harder games coming up and they will start to struggle to score goals again.
I just don’t understand the loving in media for Arsenal.




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16 Mar 2024 09:33:15
I agree with Arsenal but I think Man City would bounce back hard but would love them knocked out by Arsenal in the Semis.




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11 Mar 2024 13:47:33
Ed025 I think VAR needs to be gone I thought it was a pen with what we have seen them given for all ready this season.
But for me that Brighton game yesterday I don’t think I have seen a worse challenge all season and VAR did not think that was a ref who ever was doing VAR should instantly be sacked today because they can’t know what he was doing.


{Ed025's Note - i have been saying it all along grino, scrap it until they have perfected it mate, in its present form its a joke with the inconsistencies and weekly mistakes, the one at Brighton was a shocker and heads should roll for that one, but its not as if its a one off these things are happening on a regular basis and its not fit for purpose imo..



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06 Mar 2024 20:33:12
Ed025 I think we must win Sunday and then we must win Brighton because it’s straight after the international break then I think the league e we old be ours.
As for the blue side I can see you losing a couple more points but the forest losing 6 with the ffp. You have had a bad run of results but there has been a lot of tough games in there and we some better fixtures coming up you will be very safe my friend.
But from next season you have got to some how find a striker to add goals to your team because with the looks of Leicester and Leeds coming up that looks a stronger league.


{Ed025's Note - its not just a striker we need grino, it would not matter if we had Salah up front mate because without service no striker will score, our midfield is so blunt and ineffective especially the way Dyche sets us up, our players are not good enough offensively and only a change of personnel will change that but with our financial plight its become a catch 22 scenario im afraid..



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03 Mar 2024 13:10:19
Ed025 I thought the ref was awful all game most are but I do think he is right up there with the worst.
There time wasting was awful the player that could not walk without help until he gets of the pitch then he was all right. Then the goalkeeper was down for about 4 minutes then was hobbling to take the goal kick and then just suddenly runs ok. The ref made a mistake but it’s at the other end in the pitch and just under 2 minutes before the goal. I would guess if you go that far back I bet loads of goals could be disallowed. But I thought we got very lucky yesterday because we were just not at it but with the injuries and 4 games in 11 days is going to catch up with us.


{Ed025's Note - but if you dont get 2 penaltes, 10 free kicks and 2 of their players sent off grino you all think the ref is either biased or a cheat mate..its just the Liverpool way im afraid, you have always been noted for your sense of entitlement for as long as i can remember...nothing new to see here..



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