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25 Jul 2024 05:54:28
Ed’s 002
Hearing Emenalo is set to try and lure Salah again but with a low ball offer knowing he can get him for free next summer.
£30-40m being touted, assume this is complete BS and Liverpool would not even think to consider such an offer?
{Ed002's Note - The budgets for the PIF owned clubs have now been settled so Mr Emanalo will be shopping. I have no idea what Liverpool would except but they are actively looking to a replacement for Salah.}
1.) 25 Jul 2024 13:27:33
The Saudis need to drum up some serious interest in their farmers league vanity project. In that regard Salah is worth a lot more than 40m, regardless of having only 1 year left on his contract.
2.) 25 Jul 2024 10:18:22
Now they’ve been settled Ed do you foresee Saudi clubs moving for anymore of our players?
Diaz perhaps, with it unlikely he gets the move to Spain he wants.
Thanks in advance.
{Ed002's Note - Tgere is interest in Salah and Alisson. May be one of the few options open to Diaz.}
3.) 25 Jul 2024 17:33:47
Fans thinking we'll get more than £40m for Salah are daydreaming. Whatever you think he's worth they know they can get him for free in 12 months and his influence and status won't have declined at all.
4.) 25 Jul 2024 21:59:38
Total nonsense Nevada.
14 Jul 2024 04:53:47
Ed002
Is VVD leaving the reds? 12 months on his contract, Real and Barcelona both interested? I think this rumour may have some truth behind it what do you know?
{Ed002's Note - Virgil van Dijk (CB) I am told that van Dijk's agents have said that they had approaches from both Real Madrid and Barcelona. Real Madrid see VvD as a low cost solution in terms of transfer fee but need to make space in the wage structure. Barcelona offer an option but will need to agree sales first. At this point in time it will be very general enquiries only and I doubt either club will move for him. There is however interest from Michael Emanalo on behalf of Al-Nassr and his agent has spoken with Atletico. Liverpool need to make a decision about a new contract as a matter of urgency but I would expect him to stay.}
1.) 16 Jul 2024 09:54:19
He will for sure run his contract down and leave for free.
2.) 16 Jul 2024 22:56:38
Get him gone and rebuild, he's spent anyway.
10 Jul 2024 05:17:54
Brilliant overview that Ed002 thanks.
I hope we go for Varela and Ederson this summer, think that 100% improves our midfield. Would look to move Morton, Carvalho and maybe Gravenberch.
1.) 10 Jul 2024 09:35:53
shughes55, would agree on those two improving our team.
Sounds like they could be tricky and expensive deals to do though.
Definitely the most important position to strengthen this summer though.
{Ed002's Note - Ederson will be difficult.}
2.) 10 Jul 2024 09:59:26
Just can’t see us signing either one as it stands. Atalanta doesn’t want to sell and if pressed we would need to pay way over the tops. Same with Varela (A single payment) .
3.) 10 Jul 2024 10:14:50
Ugarte ruled out. Varela and Neves with big release clauses needing to be met. Ederson being difficult, assume due to likelihood of Koopmeiners leaving?
At this point in the window, what midfield deal isn't difficult to do, Ed?
4.) 10 Jul 2024 11:05:03
Gravenberch arrived last day of the transfer window with the season already underway and little game time at former club Bayern.
I hope getting a pre season in, building on his confidence we will see a much improved player.
5.) 10 Jul 2024 12:11:34
Gravenberch is the same age bracket as Bradley, Quansah and Elliott I think he deserves a bit more time.
6.) 10 Jul 2024 16:06:49
We should loan out one of Jones or Grav, they won't progress sitting on the bench.
7.) 10 Jul 2024 16:34:29
Morton has been excellent in the championship but people want to sign Wharton? Give him a season at least or is he the next clarkson?
8.) 10 Jul 2024 17:06:58
Jones and Grav hardly sat on the bench last season. I also do not see us being too active in the transfer market, two additions max. So they should still see plenty of game time.
I think Slot wants to give everyone a fair crack of the whip and I expect some players to surprise us and come back into the fold.
9.) 11 Jul 2024 08:37:07
Hi Ed, I notice you said Ederson may be difficult to get now, it had previously looked like he could be the main option for centre midfield, is this due to a change in stance of Atalanta or Liverpool pushing on for an alternate target?
{Ed002's Note - Atalanta want him to stay.}
13 Jun 2024 03:17:48
Joao Neves offer forthcoming in the region of £75m according to CM Desporto (Portugal)
Edward’s was always keen on the Portuguese league for upcoming players, Ed 002 is there any legs in this story?
{Ed002's Note - Joao Neves (DM/CM) Discussed with Chelsea when meeting over another player as they were seeking a replacement for Loftus-Cheek last summer. Potential Casemiro replacement for Manchester United. Huge buy out clause and Benfica will not look to sell but recognise there will be growing interest and will insist that the buy out clause is met in full. Player is not keen on a new contract. Liverpool and Manchetser City have sent scouts. Versatile but falls over easily. I expect Manchester United to push even having a first offer rejected.}
1.) 13 Jun 2024 09:20:46
Do you envision an offer from Liverpool Ed?
Or aware of one being made already?
Seeing it as unlikely myself.
{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any offer from Liverpool - and his price is clear if Liverpool want to be considered.}
2.) 13 Jun 2024 09:37:20
Note: Joao Neves is the Portugal national squad for Euros. If any bidding, we'll probably find out only after they get out of the competition.
3.) 13 Jun 2024 09:53:11
Top man, cheers Ed!
4.) 13 Jun 2024 16:13:21
“falls over easily”, sounds like Jack Grealish exiting a nightclub.
5.) 13 Jun 2024 16:24:46
Sounds like Jack Grealish on the pitch!
6.) 13 Jun 2024 16:57:54
For the price they’re asking, he seems like he has about the same value for the price as Antonio silva (and remember how much they were asking for Florentino two years ago, now apparently Everton are offering a third of that), he looks a very good player but not exactly a classic 6 imo, more like a deep lying tidy controlling player who sets the tempo and moves the ball quickly with one touch short passes, can win tackles (though tackles and interventions aren’t his specialty) and pops up with the occasional goal in the box, certainly he looks like he can develop into an excellent player in the right possession-based, positional system but is he worth that kind of money right now? I have my reservations but I’ve also not seen a whole lot of benfica games, maybe somebody else here has a better idea.
7.) 13 Jun 2024 18:49:51
PatrikBurgher-You can bet that Eddie has a War and peace on this guy.
Many fans were gagging for florentino, and again for Caicedo (who will come good i imagine) but you just never know.
As long as we avoid another keita, who is up there was E H Diuof and Paul Stewart as the worst ever LFC signings.
06 Jun 2024 07:29:12
Ed002
I see the Gertruida rumours are doing the rounds again, and tbh I thought he might be a realistic target due to Feynoord links?
I recall you saying a long time ago he was versatile, is he an option.
{Ed002's Note - Lutsharel Geertruida (RB/CB/DM) Barcelona were keen to take the versatile Geertruida as cover but player wants guarantees of game time, so they can be discounted. The desired Pavard replacement for Bayern Munich who have held talks over a transfer for January but were turned away - they will look to return in the summer. RBL are still looking to him. Of consideration by Chelsea if Reece James moves on in the summer, but they have preferred options. Spurs and Newcastle sent scouts. I am not aware of any approach by Liverpool. One to watch in the future. Signed a new contract earlier in the year but Feyenoord may seek another extension.}
1.) 06 Jun 2024 12:05:38
Presumably, we have a signed a no-poaching agreement with Feyenoord given we've just taken a large chunk of their coaching staff.
{Ed002's Note - It is certainly not uncommon but I don't know if it has happened.}
2.) 06 Jun 2024 15:45:47
I believe the player openly declared an interest in the idea of ever playing for Liverpool, so take that for what it is. Most guys don't end up at the club they follow though as a lot of things need to align for any move to happen.
Personally, I think he'd be an interesting addition but not sure the timing is right at the moment.
3.) 06 Jun 2024 18:31:35
A Gomez replacement as Joe may move to SA for a big payday.
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01 Jul 2024 19:00:20
Pacho would do for me at CB though I would love Inacio personally
Emerson for DM but I would take Varela too, not keen on Koopemeiners personally
Nico Williams for LW all day long for me stand out possibility for that position
Maybe give Bakayoko a go at RW, would rather get someone now to shadow Salah than wait for next summer when he actually leaves and there isn’t a great deal of choice!
1.) 01 Jul 2024 20:19:40
You do realise who our owners are?
2.) 01 Jul 2024 21:42:37
Which means what exactly? Firstly, FSG does not make the player purchases, LFC does. Secondly, last summer LFC bought 4 players for over 150 million. No reason it can't be done again or even exceeded, given the new coach and contracts ending?
3.) 01 Jul 2024 22:01:15
Spot on ArAy, a common misconception that FSG select / pay for the players and the clubs record of buying players that grey want and who want to play for us has been very good in recent years. I think there is another misconception that the more you pay for a player the better he is - personally I don’t think that’s the case.
4.) 01 Jul 2024 22:37:57
But lads, have you considered "FSG bad"?
Ah.
5.) 02 Jul 2024 08:28:05
Where did the "FSG out" crew disappear to?
6.) 02 Jul 2024 08:54:23
There is no chance Nico Williams joins Liverpool this summer. Absolutely none. He's waiting for a move to FC Barcelona, where he'll get to play with his new best pal Lamine Yamal
Other than that, and in case Barcelona are skint, some ridiculous wages will be required to bring him to England, and it doesn't feel like the Liverpool way at all. More like Man City or Chelsea bound if he ever comes to the Premier League.
7.) 02 Jul 2024 08:57:51
I'm still waiting for the guy who insisted we'd only sign free transfers and cheap players whilst selling off Gomez and Kelleher to balance the books, cos that's what an ex-pro who he couldn't name told him, to show up again, Flash.
8.) 02 Jul 2024 18:44:13
Barcelona remind me of myself when i've had a couple beers and I fill my Amazon shopping basket with items I can't afford.
9.) 02 Jul 2024 18:57:02
"they paid £150m last year no reason it won't happen again"
That is exactly the reason it won't happen again. We aren't united or Madrid and have limited budgets, klopp has twice had to have less than £20m budget. Maybe next year we spend that but I expect this summer will be fairly quiet.
As for Nico I wouldn't expect him unless we are willing to make him the highest paid player. His agent pushes for very high salaries, the number I heard in passing was 300k euros per week.
{Ed001's Note - that's not true. Klopp never 'had to have less the £20m budget' at all. He chose to spend less, there has never been a 'budget' as such.}
10.) 02 Jul 2024 21:30:51
Exactly, Ed01. The club have said that if the manager wants a player and that a deal can be done then they will do all they can to get it done which they did countless times for Klopp. You know, like they did with Caicedo?
I see that Klopp4pm asked if the OP knew who our owners were sarcastically. I think it is him who needs to educate himself on who our owners are. Sarcasm, of course.
30 Jun 2024 06:19:54
Don’t need Gordon even if Diaz moves on.
I honestly like the idea of Gakpo on the left side where he played for his previous club and where he has been playing for the Netherlands.
I would let Diaz leave if we can achieve £60-70m.
Defensive midfielder is the player I’m excited for and would still like Inacio at CB as he is best suited to our needs.
Konate would be the other player I would look to move on, his injury record is poor and he can’t play 5 games consecutively. That’s no good to us, it means we consistently have to change our CB pairing so hopefully Pacho can be that consistent CB we need.
1.) 30 Jun 2024 09:24:15
Having watched Inacio the other night, he didn't look a 60 million pound player to me. That said, Bellingham didn't look a 2 bob player the other night, so I don't suppose I should draw conclusions.
2.) 30 Jun 2024 09:39:20
Strength in depth wasn’t quite there last season for league and Europa even though we had a good go at both.
League and CL next season for me requires a stronger squad not a weaker one. If Diaz goes and is not replaced then for me we are weaker in the forward department.
CL doesn’t allow 8 midweek changes like the Europa does. Slot will be going as close to full strength as possible for both competitions.
3.) 30 Jun 2024 09:55:11
Konate missed 5 games in the PL last season due to injury.
4.) 30 Jun 2024 11:37:13
If Diaz moves on we absolutely need a left winger if its Gordon or not is another thing.
5.) 30 Jun 2024 11:44:58
Can Gordon play on the right?
We can’t continue to expect Mo to play 50 odd games a season as well as wanting to play in the Olympics.
If Diaz goes and we bring in a forward that can play left and right then isn’t that two birds with one stone.
6.) 30 Jun 2024 20:34:36
I like Gakpo on the left too shughes. Gordon can also play CF though (as he did when Isak was injured) and also RW (as he did when Barnes was fit) .
He also rarely misses a game and if Diaz leaves, Nunez is the only player we’d have left with that blistering pace and the energy to run in behind for 90 minutes. Plus I prefer Jota up top as he’s not a natural winger, so Gakpo would be the only natural LW option then.
Gordon is expensive though tbf. Rumours we could offer Kelleher seem pretty reasonable. We definitely need to find a way to bring the cash sum down but also the overall valuation of the deal. £100m isn’t a sensible fee to pay. He’s just not worth that. Bellingham and Rice are better (also English) and they went for that sort of money.
7.) 01 Jul 2024 07:19:34
I don't want Gordon but the lad does really want to play for Liverpooll, which is always a plus. That extra ounce of desire to play for your boyhood club is always welcome and has always been a big draw for us to go in for a player, if they get the ethos and the culture of the team and the city. I don't think he should be played anywhere other than either of the wings, though, and I just don't think he can play the short pass one-two football that Slot wants in the opposition half. If you want pace and directness on the left hand side then just play Nunez. I do think the ship has probably sailed on Gordon now they've sold Anderson and Minteh, though, the price for Gordon will probably have doubled now they've passed the PSR deadline.
19 Jun 2024 05:21:34
Calafiori is another we will supposedly pursue but is unobtainable just like Yoro!
Move on he will go to Inter, AC or Juve
Pacho, Inacio will do for me and Ederson in midfield and that will do.
Salah will see out his contract.
1.) 19 Jun 2024 07:10:16
Can’t see us making a move for Ederson. Supposedly we’re not looking at an additional midfielder (that’s a rumour I’d heard), so make of that what you want. Personally I’d say it was a stupid decision not to bring in a defensive midfielder after last season. I’d hope we go for Inacio over Pacho and even if Salah sees his contract out we should bring in another winger (Bakayoko? ) as he doesn’t have the pace any more and his role in the team should be phased out so we aren’t reliant on him.
2.) 19 Jun 2024 08:57:05
“Personally I’d say it was a stupid decision not to bring in a defensive midfielder after last season. ”
Yes we did, his name is Endo. Not ideal but we did buy one. The club did chase Lavia who is an out and out DM. And I hope we continue to look for one this summer.
Ederson is no Fabinho. He is more of an engine / Caicedo.
3.) 19 Jun 2024 09:18:28
And we bid for Caceido.
We definitely need a central midfielder; one that do some defensive work.
4.) 19 Jun 2024 09:24:53
Why is Calafiori unobtainable to us but not tp AC Milan?
5.) 19 Jun 2024 09:43:18
Like I said in the rumours page, I doubt that Bologna will even let calafiori move, they have two center backs attracting attention and I think they’d certainly let lucumi move first rather than sell their prize asset, despite the fact that he is worth more, zirkzee likely will go this summer too I imagine so selling their spine just doesn’t make much sense, just my guess though, maybe ed002 can weigh in.
{Ed002's Note - Riccardo Calafiori (CB/LB) Bayer Leverkusen and Chelsea have a declared interest but he is not first choice for either although Chelsea may well look to two additions and push for the player. Newcastle interest has gone. Spurs, Bayern Munich and Brighton have sent scouts but Juventus has held a number of discussions with Bologna and are offering cash and a part exchange. They will also have an edge because of Motta although Bologna have now secured CL football they insist they do not need to sell their prime assets. A wildcard may be Real Madrid. Liverpool have shown no interest.}
6.) 19 Jun 2024 10:00:27
Aren't we currently in the period that is after last season?
Anyways, we shouldn't just be on the hunt for a running and ball winning CDM, they need to be able to keep and move the ball.
7.) 19 Jun 2024 15:25:26
Jaguar, I must have slept thru that part too esp. since I saw with my own eyes Leg-Endo you know, the defensive midfielder bullying KDB to the point that Pep had to take him off and comfort him? Some of our fans are the absolute best.
Now do we need someone younger to come in and help out at DM? Absolutely BUT to downright dismiss Endo the way many of our fans did during last season (and clearly still do) is what I find outrageous and down right disrespectful.
8.) 19 Jun 2024 16:25:04
You won’t see me disrespecting Endo, i love him so much I bought away and 3rd kits with his name on the back.
9.) 19 Jun 2024 18:54:15
Who downright dismissed Endo last season?
What is downright dismissing someone anyway?
10.) 20 Jun 2024 12:27:49
Rigsby, plenty of our fans did (esp. when we started struggling near the end) and STILL do now, just like the poster on this thread did which sparked the responses on this thread.
10 Jun 2024 18:50:28
Todays rumour page is without doubt the worst read I have had in years, get a grip guys, it is clear the season is over and nobody has anything to talk about.
02 Jun 2024 06:59:35
When is Slot going to speak to the media and more to the point, the fans?
Ed001 do you know if there is anything planned for this week?
{Ed001's Note - not a clue sorry. He has only just walked in the door and the season is finished, there is no rush mate.}
1.) 02 Jun 2024 09:51:07
All in good time, man.
2.) 02 Jun 2024 11:39:54
Just looking at Slot's upcoming first season its going to be a tough ask.
Half the squad are going to be away with the Euros and the Copa America so by the time they have their break they would have missed a large part of Slots pre season.
Then throw in we will be playing CL football next season. If you look at our Europa Line ups and then the league games straight after this previous season the Europa allowed us to rest players and give opportunities for others.
The CL will find us going as strong as possible in Europe and the weekend.
3.) 02 Jun 2024 14:22:05
@jk I am thinking the same, it’s going to be very tough for him and the coaches to implement their ideas on the first team squad.
If the players aren’t there, they can’t work with them.
Equally like you say when you’re playing twice a week there really is no time for “coaching” in between games as you recovering from one and then preparing for the next without time to work on much else!
4.) 02 Jun 2024 15:24:19
Couldn’t agree more JK. Tough season this. I think we
More quality now we’ve qualified for a proper European competition.
5.) 02 Jun 2024 18:28:39
I reckon he'll be just fine. Similar situation to many other managers. They're professionals for a reason.
6.) 02 Jun 2024 20:20:40
@OP, Arne has a list of fans and their addresses and is making his way around. As I live in Australia I think I’m scheduled for him to meet me in November .
7.) 02 Jun 2024 23:14:21
It’ll be tough, it’s a transitional season for the club, but I expect top 4.
8.) 03 Jun 2024 12:06:02
Pretty sure, there is a plan in place to make this a smooth transition into preseason as possible. Also, he prolly knew this would happen and STILL took the job as soon as he was offerred it. Relax, bros. Nothing to fear here.
26 Jul 2024 11:33:37
Offer him as part-ex for Inácio plus cash.
Would do well back in Portugal.
24 Jul 2024 19:22:55
Joe needs to move on, great player on his day but injuries have cost him badly.
Konate cannot string 5 games together without looking wilted or getting injured, again a beast on his day but way too inconsistent to be considered reliable.
21 Jul 2024 19:37:40
Diaz or Salah if he. Can be versatile and play on the right too.
17 Jul 2024 19:46:28
Inácio a great option for the reds, put the doe down and get your man.
Ederson and Varela would be special too.
27 Jun 2024 00:18:43
Ederson all day.
22 Jul 2024 20:39:01
Can see this happening.
14 Jul 2024 17:26:49
No way SJ I’m working in London and I couldn’t possibly spend the evening with a group of cockneys, all singing god save our king and it’s coming home!
Would rather watch Everton than England at least they regularly get beat which provides me with some satisfaction.
Spain to win in extra time tonight ??.
{Ed025's Note - a bitter bitter man..unlock the joy in your heart my friend and get a few bevvies down your neck..
04 Jul 2024 07:24:07
He is not going, end of, nothing to talk about.
Hope he shows everyone on here just how amazing he has been for Liverpool in the coming 24/ 25 season.
13 Jun 2024 03:23:07
Prefer Varela over Thuram personally.
04 Jun 2024 12:48:46
Salah is done, he is 60% of the player he was 2/ 3 seasons ago. If we were offered anything above £80m then I’m good with letting him go.
I loved the guy, but everyone’s time comes to an end.
TAA has to stay, as does Allisson.