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16 Jul 2021 09:57:28
Ed's do we still hold interest in Sarr or did that ship sail when we signed Jota?

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{Ed002's Note - Jota was third choice behind Sarr and Traore - he was signed because Wolves would accept payments spread over a longer period. Liverpool want a versatile attacking player and maintain an interest in the others.}


1.) 16 Jul 2021 11:17:08
Seems we should always go for our lesser choices as Salah and Jota seemed to have turned out well….


2.) 16 Jul 2021 11:16:20
@Ed002, Jota was at Wolves obviously and Traore is still there. As we were interested in both, did Wolves want a higher percentage of the fee up front for Traore compared to Jota or was Traore's price higher than Jota's?

Asking because they were at the same club and we didn't sign our preferred option so it would be interesting to hear more on why. Also, people keep mentioning Traore but I expect he is valued highly by Wolves and I hope we don't match their valuation.

{Ed002's Note - I have explained why. Liverpool did not have the money to do anything other than make staged payments.}


3.) 16 Jul 2021 11:36:33
Jota > Traore. Mind you, having said they, Djimi Traore > Adama Traore.


4.) 16 Jul 2021 11:39:15
Go on then Ed where’s our interest looking?
Mbappe?
Coman the barbarian?
Fernando Torres?

On a serious note is it doku raphina?

{Ed002's Note - RTP.}


5.) 16 Jul 2021 15:42:07
Sorry Ed002 you misunderstood my question. Totally get that Liverpool could only afford staged payments but Traore and Jota were both Wolves and you mentioned we preferred Jota.

Another way to put my question - we moved for Jota instead of Traore because? . I think the answer is because Wolves wanted less for Jota than Traore but you will actually know so that's why I'm enquiring.

{Ed002's Note - I have already answered this. Traore was preferred but Wolves wanted paying for him and sold Liverpool Jota with spread payments.}


6.) 16 Jul 2021 18:06:51
So glad we got Jota instead of Traore, but i bet Wolves wish it had been the other way round now.


7.) 16 Jul 2021 16:56:53
Ok thanks Ed002, I understand your answer.

I don't understand Wolves' logic - money is money so strange how they wanted to be paid up front for Traore but not Jota.

{Ed002's Note - It is not strange at all.}


8.) 17 Jul 2021 17:21:16
I don't mean to be one to correct you, Ed002:

{Ed002's Note - I have explained why. Liverpool did not have the money to do anything other than make staged payments. }

Liverpool could have increased the loan from the owners, or used the revolving credit facility didn't wish to deficit spend in financial year heavily impacted by disruption form C.V.. They were one of the only clubs not to deficit spend during the season, unlike Manchester City or even Chelsea.

They also won't this season after the full impact of C.V. hits in the second year of accounts affected by it. Add to that, the low initial fees of Jota and Thiago, and there's already a sizable cash outlay for this season.

Fans do need to understand, though, that all these contract renewals and first professional contracts cost money, and what the club has to spend will be impacted by the associated costs.

Renewed contracts are considered important for the likes of Alisson, Fabinho, Virgil van Dijk, Trent Alexander-Arnold, Andy Robertson and Mohamed Salah. Income received for broadcasting deffered to the following accounting period will help with this, but I'd suggest that these renewals are more important than transfers, to protect the value of these players.

Based on its last few financials financials, I would expect after the purchase of Konate, Liverpool probably has a transfer budget remaining of around £90m. Transfer budgets are never worked out on fees though, and include wages. agent costs, etc. The benefit Liverpool has here, is wages should reduce this season by around 10-12m, due to lesser performance incentives - meaning it can easily stick to both Premier League an FFP rules on wage increase limits.

One interesting stat, is the two seasons Liverpool spend bit on Wages and Transfers, they one trophies. Granted, the one before they came as close as one point from winning the league, but after spending just short of £30m last season (net), it didn't work out as well. Pay as you play, indeed.

I don't expect to see us spend £200m, and I'd be worried if we did, but I expect we have a little more than people think. Next season is when I expect us to spend.

{Ed002's Note - You are missing the point. The club needs to work towards balancing the bookd and stop accumulating debt. You are making it up about transfer budgets.}


9.) 18 Jul 2021 02:30:09
Ed666, that's precisely my point.

The are those that will say we shouldn't sell Salah at any cost, but when his form eventually drops they will then say we should have sold him when we could have reaped a top fee and "invested" in {fantasy football} names.

We can't have it both ways. Like MKS says, the club will find another talisman. I suppose the option of selling a player, especially as they get older, is always on the table and will be weighing up the cost/ benefit of selling or hanging on depending on who can be brought in.

{Ed0666's Note - mate we may possibly get a Aubamayang situation with Salah if we give him a shiny new bells and whistles 5 year contract but have we got a choice? How the hell do you replace what Mo does? He could have easily won the golden boot the last 4 seasons, playing on the wing. That pure insanity. He’s not even an out and out striker. We have to treat him like Ronaldo or Messi and make an exception just this once, he’s just that good. I don’t care if he loses his pace and is missing sitters in two years what he brings to the table NOW is far too valuable to replicate by selling him and taking a chance replacing him.


10.) 18 Jul 2021 20:18:01
Ed0666, it's not just for now, in my opinion. We're seeing Ronaldo, Ibrahimovic, Cavani, Modric, Buffon and other players still being able to make a serious impact for their teams past the age of 35 (and that's still 6 years away for Mo) . If they can do it, why can't Salah? Salah shows just as much drive and determination as any of these guys, no reason why he can't excel at a later age.

{Ed0666's Note - the caveat to you’re comment is a large component of salah’s game is about pace and once he loses that I feel his capabilities on the wing will be diminished so then I’d like to see him in the bobby position and tutor Harvey and the Polish kid if he makes the grade.


11.) 18 Jul 2021 20:46:14
That is all true, except I reckon his position is wing in name only.

For all we know, the club already have a plan in place to replace him when the right time comes.

In the meantime we could do worse than having Mo in the team for a while yet. I hope he keeps this form til the time he leaves, otherwise the I told you sos will be telling us they told us so.


12.) 19 Jul 2021 09:46:49
Who cares abt "I told you sos"? Are we going to run our club on people opinions now? 🤷.


 

 

14 Jul 2021 23:10:51
Ed's have we shown any interest in Berardi please?

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{Ed002's Note - I would not hold your breath.}


1.) 15 Jul 2021 04:09:29
Italians and liverpool have not worked out for some reason whether its us or them
Balotelli aquilani borini on the top of my head.


2.) 15 Jul 2021 06:01:18
Liverpool are reportedly preparing a £60m bid for Inter Milan and Italy's Euro 2020 winning-midfielder Nicolo Barella, 24. (La Repubblica)


3.) 15 Jul 2021 06:30:57
Doubt it spaceman.


4.) 15 Jul 2021 09:43:10
Inter consider him to be untouchable so apparently so I’d forget about that.

Personally I just don’t think we’ve bought well in the Italian market, I’m sure if we bought the right player they will settle as there’s plenty of Italians who’ve succeeded in England.


5.) 15 Jul 2021 10:35:24
Let's not forget Andrea Dossena.


6.) 15 Jul 2021 10:59:28
Scored against the small teams. Bellisimo.


7.) 15 Jul 2021 14:12:44
Seriously do people not read posts and relys. We won't be signing any one player for 60-70m plus, we may spend that on a few players depending on sales, but definitely not one. So if ya see reports that we're interested in players for that money just chalk it down to utter rubbish.


8.) 15 Jul 2021 14:21:08
How do you prepare a bid? Lol.


9.) 15 Jul 2021 15:45:22
Surprised this wasn't shot down by Ed2 as a random name post.


10.) 15 Jul 2021 15:54:52
Salah and Allison are from the Italian market no?


11.) 15 Jul 2021 17:28:12
So what does that make the posts if we end up signing someone for £60-70m plus Port? 😆.


12.) 15 Jul 2021 23:19:06
So, I gather that Ed002 thinks we have little chance of signing Berardi - fair enough - but HAVE we you shown any interest?

{Ed002's Note - His club has told the sides who have approached them that he is not available. I am not aware of such an approach by Liverpool.}


13.) 16 Jul 2021 01:58:16
Thanks Ed! Great player - not surprised that they want to keep hold of him!


14.) 16 Jul 2021 10:00:06
As always sound advise from the Ed!

Remember to breath everyone.


 

 

10 Jun 2021 07:54:55
Ed's do we we have any interest at all Tielemans please? Tried searching but ver little on him so I'm assuming not and his fee would be out of reach.

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach by Liverpool, and I doubt Leicester would sell and his cost would be very significant.}


1.) 10 Jun 2021 13:45:37
Presumably it would be his agent putting this out in the media to get a better contract offer from Leicester?


 

 

30 Apr 2021 16:39:07
Ed002 are you aware please if we have yet contacted Brighton regarding Bissouma?

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of anything changing - Liverpool are interested as I have explained.}


 

 

29 Apr 2021 17:53:13
Hi Ed002, I'm sorry to ask I know others keep pestering you but are we close to seeing an update or Sharkopod on potential incomings this summer please?

Daretodream

{Ed002's Note - There will not be a Liverpool Sharkopod I am afraid.}


1.) 29 Apr 2021 19:47:39
We will miss the tunes.


2.) 29 Apr 2021 20:30:11
Remember the majority of us appreciate yours and all of the other editors selfless work. Absolutely gutted we're missing out, such a shame there's people out there ruining things for the decent folk.


3.) 29 Apr 2021 21:36:27
Agree Istanbul.


4.) 29 Apr 2021 22:14:45
Argh Damn 🤦🏻 Sorry mate have there been some abuse on here? So annoying that it ruins it for the rest of us.


5.) 29 Apr 2021 22:15:45
Ed002 can't you just do a podcast of random songs and call out all the posters who insulted you and your Super League opinions with some genius put downs in between each classic banger? I don't need transfer information. I need Sparky savaging Waro like a rabid Old Yella.

{Ed002's Note - The songs perhaps.}


6.) 30 Apr 2021 07:03:31
The songs with a bit of commentary on the songs and artists Ed?

{Ed002's Note - I think that is what #WonderDogSparky is planning.}


7.) 30 Apr 2021 12:23:46
You know what Ed, as a distraction from all the nonsense in the world and football, it’s going to be a refreshing change, nice one.


 

 

 

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02 Aug 2021 19:18:16
Jonathan David Rumours seem to be gathering pace, looks decent enough to me but performing in the PL is a lot tougher. Thoughts anyone?

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1.) 02 Aug 2021 19:26:21
Ed066 said in a post that David would be his choice or he would be a very good option.

{Ed002's Note - He is a good player but would want to start.}


2.) 02 Aug 2021 19:35:41
I can see that Ed. Would a player like David come to bed in for a season with the promise that Mane or Salah would be sold the season after. Therefore he would then be a starter.

{Ed002's Note - Is that what you think Klopp is promising him?}


3.) 02 Aug 2021 19:48:56
Tbf Ed will Sarr or Traore move to sit on our bench?

{Ed002's Note - Players will generally not move to sit on the bench.}


4.) 02 Aug 2021 19:59:29
If he steps up a level in terms of club and league he will have the same problem in regards to starting as most teams have big quality squads they rotate .


5.) 02 Aug 2021 20:04:08
No, I was asking you if anything like that is an option. Because it might be a way of integrating a very good player.

{Ed002's Note - To play where. If Liverpool want to bring in starters then fine, sell players to bring in money and pay for replacements where there will be spaces.}


6.) 02 Aug 2021 20:12:03
Thanks Ed, have a good evening.


7.) 02 Aug 2021 20:44:52
Must be Ed666 spreading the J. David rumours on the down low, init Ed666?

{Ed0666's Note - I’d love him at Liverpool but I don’t gossip unless it’s about eds 001’s sexual prowess or lack of


8.) 02 Aug 2021 21:23:14
Didn’t Jota sign to sit on the bench. Same as the midfield 3 If you play well you will get plenty of opportunity for minutes. Unfortunately the players that don’t get the minutes are the ones that Klopp doesn’t trust.


9.) 02 Aug 2021 21:37:31
Exactly JK its a squad game now and players will get time look at the top teams they all have top players in the squad not just the 11 that start so this notion that LFC will only sign x y z to start isn't accurate.

Will utd play sancho, rashford, greenwood, cavani and martial all at once?

Will city play Jesus, sterling, grealish, mahrez, silva, grealish and Kane all at once?

Will psg play sarabia, di maria, icardi, mbappe, neymar, draxler all at once?

Will madrid play Bale, Benzema, Rodrygo, Vinicius, Jovic, hazard all at once?


10.) 02 Aug 2021 21:49:38
yeah theirs loads of players at city who don't play and are on the bench like berardo mahrez laporte walker. madrid has loads too. we need a squad not a first choice eleven and bugger all else. chelsea has players like kovacic, pulisi, ziyech and christensen who whwere all bench players all season long that's just three teams. WE NEED A SQUAD NOT A FIRST CHOICE ELEVEN all over top teams have them and players who would be playing for most other teams in the league but are happy sitting on the bench msot games.


11.) 02 Aug 2021 22:03:48
He won’t sit on the bench if Mane and Bobby continues to play the way he did last season.


12.) 02 Aug 2021 23:11:04
When a rumour gathers pace, is that just when a group of click bait sites copy another click bait site?
Because I've seen loads of rumours gathering pace, yet no signing to follow.
How can they all be so far off the mark I wonder?

{Ed0666's Note - because the foundation that clickbait is built on is BS


13.) 03 Aug 2021 03:10:21
The only sin wave that doesn’t cross the x axis to go in the positive direction! You sir are a mathematical anomaly.


14.) 03 Aug 2021 09:09:24
So Ed0666, how is it that you amd I and a few others that post on here can grasp that and the majority of others seem to think that everything they read has a ring of truth about it?
It's comical what transfer fever does to some.

{Ed0666's Note - because they are like most of society mate that would rather believe gossip than actually substantiate fact from fiction.


 

 

14 Jul 2021 18:27:51
Anything else happened or been discussed as regards to Insigne Ed's since you mentioned Klopps interest?

Daretodream

{Ed002's Note - No.}


1.) 14 Jul 2021 18:58:38
Maybe I've missed it, but. players moving on. any interest in Keita and would the club be wiling to listen to offers? I ask the same question of the Ox.


2.) 14 Jul 2021 19:02:28
We can’t get the local bus to take Keita.


3.) 14 Jul 2021 19:11:16
Now that's funny.


4.) 14 Jul 2021 19:45:03
Anyone fancy sticking Keita on eBay and seeing what we can get? I’d take a tenner at this point.


5.) 14 Jul 2021 20:45:29
Brilliant Jay.


 

 

01 Jul 2021 12:21:40
Morning all

Wanted peoples opinions please on how you think we will fair next season?

I think we all are aware of our finances now being on par with the other teams who finished top4 and they are all strengthening as I type this out. We pretty much have our kit with maybe a midfielder coming in as well as Konate.

Spurs will no doubt give some money to there new manager as will the Ev.

I've also read that VVD and Gomez won't be ready for the season starting which will be a blow.

In all honestly and I might be being negative but I think we will be battling for 4th spot.

Daretodream

{Ed025's Note - a lot will depend on how the other top teams fare in the transfer market DTD, if city get the likes of kane and grealish then you can forget top spot so top 4 will be the aim, if the likes of utd, chelsea etc strengthen and you dont then top 4 will be a struggle, your first team are very good but any injuries and i think you may be looking at top 6...because the rest of your squad are turkish delight mate..


1.) 01 Jul 2021 12:54:59
The transfer window is not closed yet, we will be signing more 1st team players. If we don't see too many injuries then I expect us to challenge for the title irrespective of what other teams are doing.


2.) 01 Jul 2021 13:04:10
Ah top four was the aim the season after City pipped us for the title because they went and strengthened again while we bought kids and we all know what happened then. The defence is sorted with Konate signing. a midfielder and a more clinical No.9 and we will be right in the mix.


3.) 01 Jul 2021 13:04:44
Dunno why everyone complains abt our Rivals strengthening. It makes zero impact on our chances.

We just need to beat the likes of Burnley, Palace, etc hence City can sign whoever they want. After all will play them only twice lol.


4.) 01 Jul 2021 13:13:22
It's not as simplistic as if Man City or Chelsea get x y z then we can forget about top spot.

It's about performance levels. We know what our current team is capable of from 2 seasons previous. It is about reproducing those levels. This team is a challenger if we reproduce that form. These players (bar milner) are all in their prime or on the way up.

We do need a CM i feel and that should do it.

City will be favourites but they are always favourites. That changes nothing. I head into the season optimistic for a good bounce back season.


5.) 01 Jul 2021 14:45:55
We got third last season and we didn’t have a defence or midfield for most of it. Think of it this way if it helps:

We are strengthening in defence by having the best defender in the world in VVD rejoining the squad.
We have further strengthened the defence by bringing in a first team player in Konate.
Further again by having Gomez rejoin the squad.
Midfield is strengthened by having top class players in Fabinho and Henderson playing back in midfield.
We look to be bringing in a Gini replacement that will freshen and strengthen the midfield.
Thiago will have settled and he will be playing alongside a better midfield.
Our forward line will be strengthened by having Jota more settled and not injured.
Less pressure will be on salah and Mane now we will have less of an injury crisis and a makeshift team behind them.
We look to be bringing in another forward player that will give us an option other than Origi on the bench.
Harvey Elliot looks to be joining the squad and that will give us some fresh legs and a new option.

Plus I don’t think anyone can say we don’t spend. Between Konate and the midfielder and forward we are likely spending over £100m of money we don't really have.


6.) 01 Jul 2021 12:46:30
I think your are pretty much spot on Ed025 with that mate. We have to react, both Manc clubs spunking money about and Chelsea look to have a top squad already. The Ev will also probably give Rafa a few million. We seem to be far behind with the state of our finances as Ed002 has eluded to frequently. We will be looking for inspiration from Elliot and Origi still next season. Tough season ahead I’m thinking.

{Ed025's Note - as i say DTD a lot will depend on injuries mate, because your first 11 are certainly top 4..


7.) 01 Jul 2021 14:08:09
I agree with Ed here, the logical thing to do is wait to see how we and other teams around us strengthen. It’s clear what business we need and want to do, that goes for outgoings as well as incomings. We’ve been very poor at trimming the fat of the squad in recent years, mostly due to pricing them out of decent deals. With how things are currently shaping up, I think we would again struggle to make top 4, I said it at the start of last season and I think the same applies here, I don’t think we can rely on the same players playing at that level on a consistent bases the way they did for those 2 and a half seasons. It absolutely does matter how the other teams around us strengthen, saying otherwise is deluded and rose tinted, but we can definitely compete if we bring in the right midfielder and attacker, and if the players that were missing for 3/ 4 of last season come back quickly and at the high level they were before. There’s a lot of ifs when it’s comes to us unfortunately, and I just don’t see us competing for anything but top 4, the way things are currently shaping up. Let’s hope that changes and I’m left with egg on my face.


8.) 01 Jul 2021 15:00:19
Ed25, LFC signed NOBODY in the first team while City spent 120m on Rodri and Cancelo going into the 19/ 20 season. How did that work out? Exactly. Not saying it will happen. Just saying no one knows how things will play out esp with injuries, as you say and that goes for every team.

City may sign those players BUT they have the likes of Silva, Mahrez and even Sterling and Laporte who want out as well so they are going to have to navigate these waters very carefully cos if even 3 of those guys leave, not sure Grealish and Kane (at potentially 250m, mind you) are going to work out for them. We shall see, of course.

IMO, I think if we can get the players we want and keep the injuries down to the barest minimum and with fans back at Anfield, we are definitely in the conversation. The issue is will we get those players? That is the question.

{Ed025's Note - the thing is oli that in 19/20 you had a lot of luck with injuries mate and that was a telling factor, you do need a bit of luck even though you might have very good players, as Kman said we wont know really until the squads are finalised and see if liverpool stick or twist..


 

 

08 Jun 2021 18:45:04
Evening Ed002. Just wondered if we was any closer to this weeks Sharkopod please?

Daretodream

{Ed002's Note - Due to the physics as we understand it, we are indeed physics.}


1.) 08 Jun 2021 19:43:23
A signed Liverpool shirt will be on the way to the poster that decipers Ed02s riddle, I riddle ye not! :)

{Ed025's Note - i wont be entering snoots.. :)


2.) 08 Jun 2021 20:23:39
The last word should be closer.
02’s just struggling to type coz she’s working at the rodeo.
🤠.


3.) 08 Jun 2021 21:00:08
I always knew there was a link between quantum mechanics / general relativity to a good old piece of transfer speculation.


4.) 09 Jun 2021 14:24:11
I think he/ she means physics = time and physics being mind readers. So he/ she was doing the sharkopod as you asked! do i get the prize?


 

 

05 Jun 2021 22:21:32
Looks like we can forget about Sancho as he is off to Utd.

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1.) 05 Jun 2021 22:35:10
No doubt City and Chelsea will be after the likes of Kane Grealish, Lukaku, Haaland etc too. Let’s just hope West Ham or Brighton don’t steal Daka from us.


2.) 05 Jun 2021 22:37:49
Aye, he was off last year too.


3.) 05 Jun 2021 23:41:04
I guess the difference is Irish, that even United couldn’t bungle it two heads running.


4.) 05 Jun 2021 23:45:34
*years.


5.) 06 Jun 2021 09:57:23
Harry back? He was Daretodream wasn't he at one stage?


6.) 06 Jun 2021 10:04:37
No Bill sorry pal I’m not Harry. Not sure what name he is using now either tbh.


7.) 06 Jun 2021 13:44:43
OP, I thought Sancho already signed for Utd last season.


 

 

 

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21 Jul 2021 19:46:20
J Bowen fits the bill guys.

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18 Jul 2021 12:30:46
you could also say that why is Sarr a Watford player and why isn’t he already at a top European club?

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14 Jul 2021 22:56:18
That probably rules out Insigne then as for me he is high profile like the above mentioned 🤦🏻.

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08 Jul 2021 21:36:32
There we go people. Out of reach for us and no interest. Sanchez is the one it seems.

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08 Jul 2021 18:08:29
Ed002 if you are about mate can we put these Saul rumours to bed please. Out of reach financially right, and no interest?

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{Ed002's Note - Saul Niguez (CM) Nobody will pay his release clause but Atletico could look to a very high fee for a player who has a contract that runs for years in order to get his €300k weekly wage off the books. Bayern Munich's first choice to add for midfield and his agent has spoken with several sides as Atletico want to make very significant savings on salaries and could be forced in to a corner by the player and his agent. But Bayern see his cash price at €60M (or €75M on terms) and wages of €300k as too high and will want to negotiate - they will almost certainly turn elsewhere. He is being offered to the usual suspects who have money - Manchester United (who would need to offload Pogba), Juventus, Manchester City, PSG, Chelsea as a Kovacic replacement - many of which are looking to add a player in his position but his wages are a major issue for most. Atletico have signed his replacement. I am not aware of any approach from Liverpool at this time but he would be an excellent choice but a lot more expensive than other options.}


 

 

 

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02 Aug 2021 19:48:56
Tbf Ed will Sarr or Traore move to sit on our bench?

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{Ed002's Note - Players will generally not move to sit on the bench.}


 

 

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29 Jul 2021 17:26:08
If you was a betting man Ed0666 who would you have a punt Bon arriving? Bissouma and Traore?

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{Ed0666's Note - For some uncanny reason I think Bissouma will be a Liverpool player.


 

 

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26 Jul 2021 22:59:23
Your right Drogie mate I’m thinking top4 will be very tough for us to crack this season.

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{Ed0666's Note - and the angels of doom are back!!


 

 

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26 Jul 2021 17:57:06
MK no way Sarr or Traore arrive without a forward leaving mate as they will want game time and we would need the funds for a significant signing which would mean Mane or Salah leaving. Ed0666 you seem determined sure on arrivals mate.

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{Ed0666's Note - only because with what we have we are not winning the prem. Klopp will know this, Edwards will know this and FSG will want to curry favour with the fans after the debacle of the ESL. There will be incomings we just need to be patient mate.


 

 

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26 Jul 2021 13:11:15
You are more confident than me Fly that 2 will arrive mate. We clearly need to sell to raise funds and even then it’s not looking likely as time is against us with the season being only weeks away. We clearly have wrong procedures in place with our financial structure as Ed002 has eluded to for a long time. Elliot, Jones, Keita and Jones will be used more imo and can all be like new signings.

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