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07 Jan 2021 20:10:48
Hi Ed002. I just wanted if possible please what typically happens when you say a player has "been offered". Like with Merih Demiral you mentioned the other day. Is it a case of, my client would like to play in the PL, these are his wage demands, his style of play is XYZ etc etc? Is this usually done direct to the club via his agent approaching?

Also I'm assuming with this one in particular with Demiral it was knocked back as no interest from us?

Thank you in advance.


{Ed002's Note - The offering is done by agents, hopefully with the agreement of clubs. In terms of MD, he is a well liked younger player but Liverpool are struggling financially like most clubs so I assume they would say, “sure but it is not the right time” or whatever.}

1.) 08 Jan 2021 18:12:40
If we do buy a CB this time around who is available giving us best value for whatever we can afford?

2.) 10 Jan 2021 02:07:51
I would take socrates from arsenal. Bags of experience and going on the cheap. Good short term option.



26 Nov 2020 19:12:55
Ed do we hold any interest in Schurrs of Ajax that you no if please?


{Ed002's Note - I don't know but will try and find out. Klopp has been looking at a starter to play with van Dijk. Liverpool would need to remove a non HG player next summer if they buy him so it would not be without issues.}

1.) 27 Nov 2020 03:18:42
Got a feeling the non HG quota won't be an issue for LFC next summer. I expect Klopp will be looking to move a lot of squad players like Adrian, Origi, Shaq, Minamino etc and the lads on loan (Wilson, Grujic, Awoniyi etc) on permanently.
That should free up a 3-4 slots to bring in suitable replacements.

2.) 27 Nov 2020 09:37:00
I expect Minamino to still be here next season, I believe Adrian contract is up along with Gini in the summer so there is 2 spots and we may see interest in Shaq and Origi in January if not I suspect they will also be part of the squad next season.

3.) 27 Nov 2020 09:42:38
The lads on loan don’t count as they aren’t registered.

4.) 27 Nov 2020 09:53:09
He's more than welcome to move on Keita. The guy is nowhere near good enough.

5.) 27 Nov 2020 08:20:47
Cheers for your reply Ed appreciated.

6.) 27 Nov 2020 10:31:59
Keita is definitely good enough, injuries are a different story but ability-wise he is definitely good enough.

7.) 27 Nov 2020 11:37:48
Keith- Ability wise he is good he’s not shown it consistently enough. Obviously on and off with injuries doesn’t help.
But I just don’t think he’s suited to Liverpool and the premier league.

Gini? Can see him going
Matip? Could see him going due to being to injury prone, sign a CB in jan and then another in summer maybe?

Can see a fairly big change in our said in summer. Maybe not loads of ‘flashy’ signings but a handful of smart signings.

{Ed0666's Note - I wouldn’t argue with any of you’re exits to be fair. I agree I think the squad is gonna have a bit of a revamp come the summer.

8.) 27 Nov 2020 12:22:58
Thst is the same list I had in mind too pretty much. Another potential for the list could be the Ox. He has also been unfortunate with injuries. I'm sure they will be thinking of 'lightening' the injury prone player's list and at the same time the wage bill. Just my thoughts and happy to be proved wrong. I like the Ox. He always gives 100% and seems a good professional. But he may be a victim of some tough decisions.

9.) 27 Nov 2020 12:31:38
Ox to exit to id say way to many passengers injuries ain’t their fault but no consistency from them 3 games in 10 out! It’s a shame but it has to be done.

10.) 27 Nov 2020 23:39:38
Starting a rebuild this coming summer with Klopp leaving at the end of 2024 sounds about right. Even though having an average age of 23.8 years last year is not exactly a catastrophe. Build a second team, and continue the "Klopp dynasty" seems to be the graceful way to then move on into new horizons.

11.) 28 Nov 2020 01:58:35
Matip going nowhere. Think we going to need more than one cb vvd going to be 30 when he comes back providing he comes back as before. Fingers crossed.

12.) 28 Nov 2020 09:34:12
I think we’ll sign a CB in January, someone young and promising. Kana, from Anderlecht, is mentioned on the BBC transfer gossip page. I don’t know anything about him tbh but that type of profile I reckon.

13.) 28 Nov 2020 10:24:58
Morning Ed002 sorry if jumping the gun mate but wondered if you had chance to find anything out on this please 😊.

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach at this time.}

14.) 28 Nov 2020 17:12:41
Not sure how anyone here can say that Keita is good enough for this team given how little we've actually seen of him. Don't like slating our players but the lad is made of glass and only ever looks like a good rather than great player when he does get on the pitch. If we can convince someone to give us £15m to £20m for him then we should snatch their hands off.

15.) 29 Nov 2020 11:21:57
Dont mind anyone having that opinion Johnny, its when people say Keitas not good enough yet try to justify Origis place in the squad which does have me scratching me head.

16.) 30 Nov 2020 19:18:22
You have to admit. if keita played for man utd everyone would be laughing at the transfer pointing it out to be amassive failure. but because he's at LFC we keep trying to grasp at straws. he's another karius end of. minamino is poor but was never going to start. we waited a year for this flop.



04 Oct 2020 12:33:44
Ed001 are you aware of any injury's for today's game mate other than Ox and obviously Mane and Thiago missing through C.V.. Hearing rumours that's all that Allison, Fabinho, Trent and Hendo Are all missing if which I'm hoping is not right as will be down to the bones.


{Ed001's Note - I am not sure sorry, I know there were rumblings a few more might have to go into isolation but it is impossible to separate fact from fiction right now as you need to know who had contact with whom to have any kind of clue. There were a few knocks in training, as there usually is, but not sure how bad they are. The games are coming so thick and fast it is not giving much time for anything to be definite. The problem is that there might well have to be players missing for freshness reasons, which can get out as 'X has an injury', when it is just rotation to avoid injury.

Hendo, Matip, Ox and Tsimikas are the confirmed injuries that are defo out.}

1.) 04 Oct 2020 13:17:08
According to the official club website yesterday, Henderson has a chance of playing today.
Fingers crossed, although we should still have too much for Villa if we play to recent form.

{Ed001's Note - you are right, late fitness test, I misread the note. It actually says he has no muscle injury, which I read as a muscle injury for some reason.}

2.) 04 Oct 2020 13:24:22
Cheers Ed appreciate things at changing all the time mate with players fitness, isolating etc. Good we have options and a big squad we can cope with a few out just hope it’s not 5 or 6 abd Allison is a big miss if it’s true.

{Ed001's Note - this season is impossible to keep up with! Too many games and not enough time between them.}

3.) 04 Oct 2020 14:04:31
Same for every club. You are right though Allison and Trent for me would be huge losses.

4.) 04 Oct 2020 14:05:33
Maybe say everyone isolating swerve the internationals 😉.

5.) 04 Oct 2020 14:44:05
Allison definitely out. James Pearce has confirmed it.

6.) 04 Oct 2020 14:59:21
On the plus side. Adrian played well in mid week against Arsenal so comes in on the back of a clean sheet.

7.) 04 Oct 2020 15:13:15
Didn’t Melissa Ready and James Pearce “confirm” Alisson was to miss the Arsenal game in the league last week 🙄.

8.) 04 Oct 2020 15:34:13
Not sure Shaq to be honest mate. Did he travel with the squad? I didn't see any pictures.



02 Oct 2020 11:05:43
So it's likely Brewster, Shaqiri, Grujic and Wilson leave raising some much needed funds. Still time to get a CB I hoping with the money raised? Unless the money raised just covers Jota and Thiago 🤔.


1.) 02 Oct 2020 11:08:27
Thiago and Jota were covered by Hoever wernt they? Because the way we structured the deals it meant we paid in installments.

2.) 02 Oct 2020 11:33:04
I’m not sure Adamski tbh mate, I think it’s good we are finally getting fringe players out the door and off the wage bill. Remember that Lovren and Lallana have already left I just hope we make a final push for a CB as we are shot in numbers back there.

3.) 02 Oct 2020 12:27:05
I wouldn't use the past-tense there, adamski. We are and will continue to be paying in installments for the next 5 years. Hopefully our shiny new sports cars are worth it LOL.

4.) 02 Oct 2020 13:01:59
I don’t think the hoever money will cover Jota the most expensive attacker we’ve ever bought!

5.) 02 Oct 2020 15:50:34
Surely, if we're paying in instalments for Jota, Wolves will also be paying in instalments for Hoever. I can't see why they'd agree otherwise.

{Ed002's Note - The first payment for DJ came from the KH money as a deduction on price.}

6.) 02 Oct 2020 16:06:03
Burnley pull back from Wilson?
Southampton pull back from Grujic?

Personally I think Liverpool are mad not taking the 12m for Wilson, if the rumoured figure is correct!



01 Oct 2020 07:09:06
Good morning all

Ed I wanted to ask please if you think that Klopp is happy with his CB options this season? As you've pointed out the priority's are to shift on some fringe players like Wilson, Grujic, Brewster etc and also the HG issue needs correcting as priority but if we Do manage to move players on is there still a focus to bring in another CB or will the youngsters be used more. I just feel we are still light in that area.


{Ed002's Note - The issue seems to surround JKlopp's desire for a starter next to Van Dijk and that comes at a Premium and has not been possible. There is less of a desire to add a third or fourth choice at the moment and with the addition of Thiago it frees up Fabinho to be used when needs be. There are also youngsters to consider and the plans to sell Nat Phillips have had to stop so it may be possible to integrate him in to the squad when fit (if space allows). Phillips does not help Liverpool with what will be an undersized Champions League squad though. At the moment, Liverpool need to sell one more non Home Grown player to get back to where they need to be next week.}




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16 Jan 2021 16:36:52
Ed001 will we look to replace Gini who is Barcelona bound or have we already done that in Thiago/ Jones?


{Ed001's Note - I believe Thiago is the replacement, though that doesn't mean we won't be looking for younger blood for the long term. The club will always be looking to replace every player in the team if the right player appears at the right price.}

1.) 16 Jan 2021 17:39:56
And Jones can learn off Thiago Ed001.

{Ed001's Note - spot on mate. No one better to learn from.}

2.) 16 Jan 2021 19:05:22
Ed01, I wouldn’t mind Yves Bisuma from Brighton as a potential addition to the midfield cos I think he is brilliant. Thoughts?

{Ed001's Note - defo mate, he would be the one I would target.}

3.) 16 Jan 2021 20:03:11
Really Ed, do you rate him that highly? isn't he more holding that Gini though?

{Ed001's Note - no, he is not holding at all. He is consistently excellent at breaking up play and getting round the pitch, almost at a Kante level. Better on the ball than Kante, with a decent level of skill. He is not quite as good as Kante was at his peak, but he is closer than anyone else I have seen recently.}

4.) 16 Jan 2021 20:40:11
I have heard he prefers arsenal, but we will have to strike while the iron is hot, I don't think its healthy that gini is playing and every man an his dog knows he is off at the end of the season, its wishful thinking but I would like too get bossouma now and bed him in because like it or not gini is soon to be off.

5.) 16 Jan 2021 20:43:53
But how much would he be Ed001?

{Ed001's Note - I have absolutely no idea sorry.}

6.) 17 Jan 2021 00:16:19
I’ve been impressed with what I’ve seen of Anguissa from Fulham. Perhaps a bit rough around the edges but big, strong, good in the air and very good on the ball. Admittedly I’ve only seen him play 3 or 4 times but I wouldn’t mind us having a punt on him from what I’ve seen.

7.) 17 Jan 2021 03:19:46
Do we hold an interest is the real question?

8.) 17 Jan 2021 07:52:52
I hope we do, Martolfc cos Bisuma is exactly what we need to bolster the midfield cos he gives us something different with his skill, dynamism and athleticism.



15 Jan 2021 20:29:33
Ed001, Hi mate I hope your well. Do you happen to know how far Jota is away from returning to training please. Also regarding Adrian it seems he has fallen well down the pecking order of late as back up to Allison, do you know if something has gone on or he said something wrong? Or is he close to the exit door in Jan?


{Ed001's Note - off the top of my head I don't but Jota is expected to be playing again next month.

Adrian just lost confidence and Kelleher has passed him as the back up option.}

1.) 16 Jan 2021 07:06:24
Adrian's novelty has worn off and he has lost form. Like with Ighalo at Man Utd the charm and glee of getting the opportunity to play for a club you supported can in the short term mask your frailties.

2.) 16 Jan 2021 04:44:57
Any interest in Adrian from other clubs? Makes no sense for a 3rd choice GK to be taking up one of the non-HG spots. Just in case we choose to sign a CB who is not HG.

{Ed002's Note - He will leave as a free agent in the summer.}

3.) 16 Jan 2021 09:16:23

Novelty? Bit disrespectful, Adrian helped us win the Premier League last season and the Super Cup. He made some mistakes but he also helped a lot.

Too many fans not enough supporters around.



13 Jan 2021 19:25:39
Is it still looking highly unlikely Ed we will bring in a CB this window?


{Ed001's Note - it is going to test Edwards to the limits, so yes unlikely.}

1.) 13 Jan 2021 20:02:16
If anyone can pull a cb out of the hat it is that man, Edwards.

2.) 13 Jan 2021 20:27:49
If Edwards cannot get it done then for sure, it was never possible and there is simply nobody out there we could take a punt on, IMO. The guy’s record is simply legendary.

3.) 13 Jan 2021 20:33:35
If none comes in so be it but personally I think it’s a massive mistake and one I hope we don’t live to regret!

4.) 13 Jan 2021 20:47:19
Every other club is going to see us coming from a mile off and whack 30 mill onto the price tag.

5.) 13 Jan 2021 21:04:10
Imo it will be a big mistake not getting one and will more than likely cost us in the league run in.? we have Fab then 2 defenders that Klopp clearly doesn’t trust as he played Henderson in front of them. Must be a good defender and the right money available somewhere.

6.) 13 Jan 2021 21:47:44
It's only a mistake if we have a decision to make, if we have no money to spend there is no decision to make.

7.) 13 Jan 2021 22:32:52
That’s the thing no mon no fun!

8.) 13 Jan 2021 23:40:46
Funny how many people are already throwing the towel in.
It's as if last season spoiled a lot of "supporters". Because we're not 20 points clear we've blown it.
Beat the Mancs at the weekend and we're top again. Their run of dubious penalties and joke refereeing decisions that seem to save them again and again won't last for ever.
More to fear from City gathering pace quietly than United.

{Ed025's Note - sigh..

9.) 14 Jan 2021 07:32:41
I don’t see how not winning the league for one season is a bigger mistake than putting the club at financial risk during a time of global crisis? Can someone explain that one to me please?

10.) 14 Jan 2021 09:59:13
Can’t wait for the game on Sunday. Fancy is to beat United. These games probably suit us more at the moment, teams who hopefully won’t be parking the bus allow our front three a bit of room to play in.

11.) 14 Jan 2021 10:09:33
Spot on, Thunderbird. You cannot say not doing something is a mistake whereas there was nothing that could be done. You cannot make other teams sell/ loan their players to us even if we DID had the money. Now that money is even tighter, it makes it even worse.

IMO, I do not want us to get a player in just for the sake of it or if he does not fit fully with what we are trying to do defensively. That is even worse than not getting someone in, IMO. Might as well stick to coaching up the young CB's we have cos at least they know the system and their qualities or flaws can be adapted to it.



10 Jan 2021 21:36:11
Hi Ed001, just read that Sepp van den Berg looking likely to go out on loan this month? Do you think this is a good move for him and is it clear that he is well down the pecking order even as cover?


{Ed001's Note - he needs games but it is impossible to say if it is a good move until after it is over.}

1.) 11 Jan 2021 01:21:17
It seems to me - with no insider information - that Klopp prefers R Williams, Phillips and perhaps even Billy Koumetio ahead of him. Ignoring the fact that we chose to field no recognised CBs against Southampton despite all 4 being fit, I'd say he's far from ready tbh.

I did post a comment a while back, referencing an interview Billy Beane gave to the Liverpool Echo. He seems to be of the opinion that signing VDB was a calculated gamble, on a very young player we had senior-level data on. I would suggest a loan move supports that.

2.) 11 Jan 2021 07:04:43
I have to proclaim myself disappointed with Liverpool’s younger centre backs in terms of their pace. Apart from possibly Koumetio, none of them are particularly quick.
It just seems really disjointed transfer business; all the first team centre backs are extremely mobile and virtually all the back-ups / younger ones aren’t!
The current problems are of our own making if that’s the case?

3.) 11 Jan 2021 12:43:41
Jurgen and his staff insist on the defence playing a high line where the crunch point for tackles and interceptions is pushed towards the halfway line, whereas Rhys Williams lack of pace leaves him more suited to playing deeper where the crunch point is near the edge of the penalty area. They clearly feel that his prowess in the air, ability with the ball at his feet and his passing is worth the risk of him being caught out for pace. Though this lack of pace has led to at least two goals lately they obviously feel from what they see in training that he is preferable to the other options.

{Ed001's Note - it is not his lack of pace that is the problem, it is his reading of the game and inability to defend. The goals have come because he is going the wrong way and positioning himself badly. Instead of dropping off to give himself a yard or two head start, he runs forward every single time. Until he learns to do the basics, he will never be of any use to us, even if he was quicker than Usain Bolt, because he would still behind the attacker and chasing back.}

4.) 11 Jan 2021 14:30:47
Spot on, Ed01. Williams is not able to read the game and that is his biggest flaw right now. In the Villa game, he gets right on Barry whereas we all saw that the pass was on even before it was released and all Barry had to do was spin him and he was away. That can happen to any defender regardless of whether he is pacy or not.

Williams should have just diagnosed the play a bit earlier, drop deep to allow himself room to contain the runner and give him a better chance. Same thing in the Spurs game, he gets caught underneath the ball that let's Bergwijn in. Vs WBA, he does not drop deep to contain grant early enuff. He needs to be smarter and learn very quickly cos this is the big leagues where sometimes, he will have to fend for himself a bit.

{Ed001's Note - this is basic stuff he should know as a small child, let alone by now. If your man is quicker than you, then you drop off and give yourself time to react. You don't sell yourself in the challenge, you jockey them and play for time so others can help out. These are the kind of things the academies are failing to teach.}

5.) 11 Jan 2021 14:42:54
Ed01, I fully agree but do you think Williams just panics in these situations cos like you say, these are the basics of defending?

{Ed001's Note - I don't think he has learnt them because they focus so much on technique and passing the ball etc, not enough time on actually learning the game itself.}

6.) 11 Jan 2021 17:20:08
Putting aside whether you think they're good enough to play for us ed, would you start R Williams or Phillips if you had to chose?

{Ed001's Note - Phillips.}

7.) 11 Jan 2021 17:51:59
Henderson, lol.

8.) 11 Jan 2021 18:37:30
R Williams, while being a decent defender for his age, should not be playing for Liverpool first team,
see how he has improved in a few years,
the only way to win something this season is to bring in a quality centre back,
otherwise, it won't happen, not doom and gloom,
just how it is, I will go with whatever the club sees fit,
I am just waiting on VVD to return .



06 Jan 2021 10:53:35
Just read that Gini has now rejected contract offer. Not sure how true it is but will be sad if he go's.


1.) 06 Jan 2021 11:02:12
I can't see him staying. If he goes then thank you so much for your contribution to Liverpool and the very best of luck at your new club.

2.) 06 Jan 2021 13:16:39
Good luck to him in that case.

3.) 06 Jan 2021 14:12:06
In all that’s going on in the world and peoples opinion on the team. It’s always good to see Barry come in with a positive reply.
I’ll second that mate, and a thank you to you. Keep up the good work.

{Ed025's Note - thats why hes the No1 poster gaz..

4.) 06 Jan 2021 17:28:58
Completely agree with you Barry. Good player in a steady reliable sense. But also for me he keeps too much in his locker. If we are going to continue to use a 4-3-3 formation as we have for the last 2 years minimum I can't see a place for him regularly. Hendo, thiago and fab all day long. He shouldn't get in above any of those 3. Curtis Jones to play incase of any injuries.

5.) 06 Jan 2021 18:29:02
Very kind words lad's and Ed025.I can never be angry at a player leaving I always look at what he's given to the club then it'll be either be best of luck or good riddance. I like you Magico feel as though we have only seen the real Gini in the last few weeks for whatever reason I can't tell you.

6.) 06 Jan 2021 22:07:07
Is this the Barry appreciation thread? Wondered when he'd challenge Salah for the top spot :)

7.) 06 Jan 2021 22:32:05
I'm blushing BB😊.

8.) 07 Jan 2021 01:41:21
I remember when we sold Ian Rush and Graham Souness.
I don't think I'll remember Wijnaldum going. The two goals against Barcelona and his celebrations maybe but he's just an average player at a golden time.
Very replaceable.

9.) 07 Jan 2021 10:25:21
Fair points Rigsby.

10.) 07 Jan 2021 14:00:33
I can't believe I spelt Graeme Souness wrong!
Bloody predictive text.

11.) 07 Jan 2021 14:26:57
I agree with the sentiment on Wijnaldum if he does leave. Thanks for being a key part of what we’ve achieved recently and good luck for the rest of his career. He must have made more appearances than almost any other player in what has been the most successful period we’ve had in over 30 years.

The problem though is that we lose a key player for nothing, whilst he still seems to be pretty much at his peak, who we don’t really have a like for like replacement for. To replace him with a new signing that comes in and does what Wijnaldum has been doing for the last four years is probably a large transfer fee. With that in mind and given that money for new signings could be tight for the foreseeable future, I think I could see the sense in just giving Wijnaldum what he’s asking for (obviously I say that without having any idea what he is asking for) .




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06 Jan 2021 19:48:24
I think then we have our answer right there Ed. A non starter.




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05 Jan 2021 23:15:01
Uglyben I get what your saying but we showed more than enough yesterday to score goals mate and with a better final ball or finishing we would of scored a few. I think we are the top scorers in the league and we have Jota returning soon to add to the attack so let’s try to keep positive mate 👍.




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05 Jan 2021 19:12:42
Could be a good option imo he looks a decent player from what I’ve seen. As you say though Ed, money could well be the issue.




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01 Jan 2021 17:43:33
Thank you Ed002.




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01 Jan 2021 15:40:57
His agent is liking posts about it adamski? Not sure about this one tbh seems to have come from nowhere?





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19 Jan 2021 19:34:13
The fact we enquired Ed I guess shows we are at leat looking to do something in way of being a defender in?


{Ed002's Note - He was never going to be joining Liverpool. Even though there would be no transfer fee, a four year contract would cost £100M.}



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16 Jan 2021 20:03:11
Really Ed, do you rate him that highly? isn't he more holding that Gini though?


{Ed001's Note - no, he is not holding at all. He is consistently excellent at breaking up play and getting round the pitch, almost at a Kante level. Better on the ball than Kante, with a decent level of skill. He is not quite as good as Kante was at his peak, but he is closer than anyone else I have seen recently.}



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13 Jan 2021 21:04:10
Imo it will be a big mistake not getting one and will more than likely cost us in the league run in.? we have Fab then 2 defenders that Klopp clearly doesn’t trust as he played Henderson in front of them. Must be a good defender and the right money available somewhere.




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04 Jan 2021 21:01:02
Not Looking good again. We don’t look confident at al and like I said a few weeks ago I feel that the lack of CB options will cost us heavily in the title chase and thus looks like being the case. Henderson is not a defender.




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04 Jan 2021 19:28:43
Argh right ok mate. Klopp clearly knows what he is doing but it just highlights how much we need a CB the fact that the 2 we have have are not up to the standards. I hope we come through this game with 3 points. I’m worried about there Ariel threat also, especially on corners.