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10 Sep 2022 12:38:37
Any truth that the champions league match could be in Dublin.


{Ed002's Note - I expect it will be in Liverpool but suspect next week will be cancelled because of the funeral.}

1.) 11 Sep 2022 07:17:10
Why would it be in Dublin?

2.) 11 Sep 2022 09:36:33
Because Dublin is great craic.

3.) 11 Sep 2022 10:19:07
In Dublin? Because some of us want to watch in a republic?

4.) 11 Sep 2022 19:03:04
Maybe now’s not the time for comments like that lost in redness. Try showing a little bit of respect and maybe more people will respect you.

5.) 11 Sep 2022 22:41:52
Few websites had it up as a option.

6.) 13 Sep 2022 15:19:23
Hey Bobby Banana, apparently a few people do respect him, seeing by the likes. I guess everyone's entitled to their opinions. I am not from Britain, so I am neutral either way. I felt his comment was in jest. But anyway, let us all keep our political leanings away from this site, and stick to things we love like Liverpool, and keita bashing.

7.) 13 Sep 2022 18:32:58
Well lads- I’m outside the aviva right now. Not sure it’s happening. Either that or the travel restrictions have come back in. I’ll keep you all updated!

8.) 13 Sep 2022 23:29:50
Must be a late kickoff. Anyway I’m predicting a 2-1 victory. Salah going to come good and hey, why not- a matip magic moment for the win.

9.) 14 Sep 2022 16:28:12
Respect to Bobby Banana for pointing out common decency during a family’s time of mourning the loss of a loved one. Thekoparmy it’s not political leanings to acknowledge respect for others during difficult times. There’s a time and a place for a conversation regarding the role of the Royal Family in todays Britain but now is not it. Lostinresness had every right to make his comment just as Bobby Banana has the right to call him on it.



23 Aug 2022 16:06:58
Do we still hold interest sangare.


{Ed002's Note - no - ew contract.}

1.) 23 Aug 2022 16:42:58
Have a funny feeling we stick with what we have yano, big risk tho but it's what we do.

2.) 23 Aug 2022 18:36:26
Shame, because he’s the kind of midfielder we could do with, he’s physically strong, gets about the pitch well, intercepts and tackles well and can attack too (Ed002, would you say he’s well thought of? ) .

I think you’re right Meg. If we do anything we won’t take any action until the end of January. Like that mess with the centre backs and even then it’ll be desperate measures stuff. This whole waiting for Bellingham nonsense (if true) could come back and bite us on the arse horribly.

{Ed002's Note - No, it is not what Liverpool want.}

3.) 23 Aug 2022 20:37:32
Answer might be carvalho, switch in formation, after a period of reflection it's easy to think buy someone.

Do still feel another body is needed, but will they be upto speed, by the time they are is thiago and Jones back, does Jones then see the door closed.

We press high and the issue I can see is loss of possession in the middle and teams counter hard down the left channel, can be cured on the training pitch.

Does a Bellingham stop that, next two home games are telling.

4.) 23 Aug 2022 20:54:27
6times - the mess with the CBs came after we lost all our senior CBs and then we bought in the next window. Every other club in the world would have had to do the same cos they don’t stockpile players for the sake of it.

5.) 23 Aug 2022 21:11:57
Liverpools bench last night was terrible. It’s really strange how quickly a team can go from looking great to being in need of an overhaul after a few injuries. That bench last night told me we weee going to lose. Then when I saw Trent strutting about and kicking it to the other team, I knew it was going to be a long night. Trent is the main problem in my opinion, and I’m sorry but Joe Gomez should never be in a starting line up for Liverpool. He simply isn’t good enough. Can’t play the offside trap we play. Trent can because he’s usually in the other half passing it to the other team. Been a bad few weeks. But hopefully some key players will start coming back. And maybe we can sign a few defenders and a midfielder in the next few windows. Top 4 could be tricky this season, but if it’s only a blip, then so be it. I’d rather that, than panic buy and be linked with every player in the world.

6.) 23 Aug 2022 21:13:43
Actually Faith, the next window after the brown stuff hit the fan with defenders was the winter one where we bought Davies (a transfer I still get) and loaned the Turkish spitter. We didn’t actually buy properly until the season ended.

The club may not want him Ed, but it’s clear to any reasonable observer we need a player like that.

7.) 23 Aug 2022 21:15:14
Meg, Bellingham is massively over rated. He’s terrible defensively and doesn’t seem to fancy that side of things.

8.) 24 Aug 2022 08:23:32
Going from slagging players who didn't even play the other night to a player who's only been linked with us.
Quite the huff that. Is self combustion an option if we lose our next game?

9.) 24 Aug 2022 10:28:34
Being critical of Keita isn’t slagging him off. He’s hardly been worth the money we paid for him. And it was ironic after his agents had briefed the press about his “unhappiness” at not getting minutes on the pitch that he miraculously injured himself.

As for Bellingham, saying that he’s not all that isn’t slagging him off either, it’s simply pointing out that there are large deficiencies in his game. If he wasn’t English he wouldn’t be getting as much hype as he does.

10.) 24 Aug 2022 19:57:38
There's bound to be deficiencies in his game, he's a youngster. But I'm inclined to agree to a degree about him being hyped because of his nationality, but there's still potentially a tremendous player there.
You haven't had a good word for any player mentioned since Monday night, our own or potential signings. Things may even get worse before they get better, but get better they will.
Do you look forward to the next game or dread it?

11.) 24 Aug 2022 21:23:14
While we supposely wait for Bellingham next season,who can we get to strengthen our midfield now before the window closes De Jong maybe, haven't seen much of him, Tillimens (spelling ) or the Brighton player, any thoughts.



30 May 2022 17:27:19
Would lfc look at berardi to help out the lack of right sided options.


{Ed002's Note - You mean as a Salah replacement? I rather doubt it and there are already talks for him with another club.}



08 Jan 2022 22:45:40
Seen us linked with a old target in Neuhaus said he has falling out of favour

Any merit and how come he has fallen out of favour.


{Ed002's Note - His agent has spoken with a number of clubs but I am not aware that includes Liverpool at this time. There has been interest from elsewhere.}

1.) 09 Jan 2022 00:41:11
Old dredged up rumour.

2.) 10 Jan 2022 04:04:45
Neuhaus set up a goal and scored too against Bayern last Friday. Not out of favour, he is a decent midfielder.



29 Aug 2021 14:12:40
Ed002 what's happening with jones to villa 15 million.


{Ed002's Note - RTP}

1.) 29 Aug 2021 18:56:20
£15m would be poor.

{Ed0666's Note - you can’t look a gift horse in the mouth. We are super skint and 15 million looks like a kings ransom right now. Will it happen who knows? Would you say no if it meant two players came in before deadline day?

2.) 29 Aug 2021 19:03:24
It only makes sense if we have a buy back clause. Other than that it could be a big mistake if he really kicks on.

3.) 29 Aug 2021 19:28:23
I probably wouldn’t say no if it meant we got 2 in before the window shuts, but it’s more plausible he gets sold and no one comes in at all lol.

4.) 29 Aug 2021 19:32:47
I would rather keep Jones and sign one player. Klopp is trying to win the league with both hands tied behind his back. FSG better be very careful as failing to invest properly in the team with only see their investment decline.

{Ed0666's Note - he may not sell Jones, it could all be hearsay we may not making any signings…watch this space! On second thoughts you’re probably better off watching the BBC or Sky sports but you know what I mean

5.) 29 Aug 2021 19:47:57
Why are we super skint?

{Ed025's Note - because you have bought super expensive players, paid super expensive super agents super fees, and you pay super duper wages..

6.) 29 Aug 2021 19:56:39
Since Klopp has been here I would take a guess we have spent less than our rivals and even Everton.

{Ed025's Note - your probably right mark, so it beggars the question...why cant you afford any new players and why are you in so much debt? is it mismanagement, is it dodgy dealings or is it the wages and fees you are paying that has got you in this financial mess?....answers on a postcard please..

7.) 29 Aug 2021 20:48:41
I agree with agents fee Ed 25 but we’ve also won stuff you can only dream of. wages are a coefficient of price sooner it’s capped the better.

{Ed025's Note - yeah i agree marshy, i dont claim to know how these work financially but a club of liverpools stature should not be poorer than the old church mouse mate..

8.) 29 Aug 2021 20:57:57
if we are skint what i don't understand is why have we signed all these players to new contracts for the future when we don't have any money surely we would be better spending on new fresh players as a lot of our midfielders are either very old or injury prone.

9.) 29 Aug 2021 21:13:12
A top local talent should not be having to be sacrificed to make signings. If this is true it is just wrong. Sends out a terrible message aswell to the kids in the academy.

10.) 29 Aug 2021 21:22:42
We have signed the players to new contracts for a couple or reasons. The financial reasons being that it prevents them running down their contracts, and more importantly it resets the contract value, meaning that their book value increases and the balance sheet improves, so rather than having amortisation costs of say £100m, you have a roughly £0 or potentially positive value associated with them.

11.) 29 Aug 2021 21:20:10
Imagine if we didn’t win the league and champions league, finish top 4 for 4/ 5 seasons and secured a record Nike sponsorship deal.
We’d be selling VVD Salah Alisson etc just to pay the electricity bill for the floodlights. We better Get our act together and win the league this season just to stay afloat.

12.) 29 Aug 2021 21:32:09
Nath, we have done great business tying down Robbo, Trent, Allison, VVD etc we couldn’t afford to buy them now.

13.) 29 Aug 2021 21:47:45
Jones, Elliot and Trent are the future. No way we should be even contemplating letting Jones leave for only £15 million. Our issue is that our squad is aging, letting our young players leave would make no sense and we wouldn’t get a better player than Joes for 15 million. Harry Wilson went for 12/ 13!

14.) 29 Aug 2021 22:01:13
Liverpools wage bill has, I believe went up circa £100 million in 4/ 5 years. That is a hell of alot, if I'm right?

15.) 29 Aug 2021 22:00:24
Ed025 we have paid a lot in agent fees but the that is not why we are skint are owners don’t put money into the club with the money for the new stand new training ground and to cover the costs from when the owners first took over. They was never going to put money in just for the out of there pocket that’s not what they do.
But they have done a great job from where the club was till now in the time they have been there. I think to many fans are are forgetting what a state we was in.
We still have one of the best teams in the world and over the past 3 season I think only city have stopped us from dominating because of the money pumped into them but that is not a normal it’s only City Chelsea and PSG that had happened to.

16.) 29 Aug 2021 22:13:28
Yes Irish mate and that’s why Mr Edwards is getting a statue outside the ground.

17.) 29 Aug 2021 22:15:48
We are skint coz we don’t have a penny and money goes to the investors in terms of dividend. The club works like a rolling chain business. You eat only if you work. The club has zero cash reserves. Plus FSG doesn’t want to put a penny in advance for the club to sign and recoup later.

{Ed025's Note - i dont know much about the finances RB but i would find that hard to believe as a business model mate..

18.) 29 Aug 2021 22:38:04
The differences in finishing 1st or 3rd in the League money wise isn't that much LiverpoolFC8. So winning it isn't that necessary in regards to staying afloat.

19.) 29 Aug 2021 22:56:00
Our wage bill has gone up by about £60m over the last 5 years.

Yes we’ve taken on debt, but some is interest free and it’s all gone into improvements like the stadium, training facilities, academy, etc. Dividends to the owners is minuscule in comparison to the likes of MU.

Generally speaking our financial constraints are a result of the infrastructure improvements, squad costs (player and agent fees), and the structure of payments. Yes we need to sell to buy, but we have had success we could only have dreamed of 10 years ago, and we have a squad to be proud of that is still one of, if not the best in the league.

20.) 29 Aug 2021 23:49:35
Let's be honest we aren't skint. FSG paid £300 million for us. We are now worth 1.7billion. Okay they have invested but that investment won our first premier league and our 6th champions league.

We have continued to get the the later stages of the champions league, we have our best and highest ever contracts with sponsors and nike, but arguably the highest ever wage and agents bill. However, the win at this game you need continued investment or you get left behind. Our net spend is next to nothing in modern day football and we are a well known global team.

I thank FSG for buying us from the brink of implosion, but with recent investment from red bird they may need to consider dipping into their pockets. Yes we all need to play to FPP rules, but we all know that there are loop holes like Citeh building and getting Eitihad to sponsor a bridge for £300million.

{Ed0666's Note - FSG don’t put in and they don’t take out. It’s a self sustaining model and their dividends will come when they sell. If that’s unpalatable for us fans well that’s tough titties as Sheila from wild wild country would say.

21.) 30 Aug 2021 00:15:53
we are skint because we have spent loads on salary, agent fees and then had a massive reduction in income due to C.V.. and then we've had a HG issue that has limited some of the transfer activity.

22.) 30 Aug 2021 06:12:53

How can you say FSG don’t take out? If they are investors then the money is paid every year in terms of dividend. You really think in the last 7 years they haven’t had a penny from the club 😅😅. We had profit over the years and where did that go?

{Ed0666's Note - I mean they don’t take Glazer like money out of the club .

23.) 30 Aug 2021 06:21:43
Rocky, do you look at the accounts of just talking nonsense? This is the sort of comment that gets people fired up and saying FSG out for no reason. FSG have not taken any dividends out of the club, and have been investing via loans to LFC to rebuild the stands/ improve the squad.

As said by many above, we’re skint because we invested massively in the squad and now have substantial wages etc., coupled with the impact of C.V., leading to a substantial fall in revenues like every other club.

We still have a top squad IMO and so saving on transfer fees to build up a reserve for when Salah/ Mane/ Hendo need replacing is sensible.

24.) 30 Aug 2021 07:36:26
Partially correct on the loan part SG. We are skint coz we run on a hand-to-mouth model. We anticipate our income and commit accordingly. Meaning we don't have cash or profit in hand to use when it doesn't arrive. The loans on the main stand and training complex have been paid. and they are not completely interest-free either.
Now, look at Arsenal. They are dead skint. but the owners have made money available today to make signings. They have until 2022 to raise cash to avoid fines or they take a hit.
We aren't spending coz the club has none and the investors's aren't putting a penny as an advance payment to facilitate spending.

25.) 30 Aug 2021 08:56:40
Rocky, I guess we were just lucky that the pixies decided to build the state of the art training centre and give it to Liverpool FC for fee eh?

And if the Leprechauns turning up to make the improvements to the ground - now that was a real bonus eh? If the owners had needed to pay for that it would have cost millions.

Probably best not to make sweeping statements about finances and to assume that opinion is fact.

26.) 30 Aug 2021 09:16:15
Anyone else think this FSG bashing is reminiscent of Life of Brian's what have the Romans ever done for us sketch.

Shiny new stand, ground broken on another

Shiny new training complex

World's most expensive goalie

World's most expensive defender

A starting 11 most people rate as one of the best in world football.

{Ed025's Note - you are all being very harsh on FSG imo IDLLK, like kids who wanted a shiny new toy for christmas but ended up with a pair of corrective shoes, you have a very good team and a decent squad so buying for the sake of it makes no sense..

27.) 30 Aug 2021 10:25:11
People are just worried about our rovals because they are insecure. And fair enough, that insecurity has been fertilized by 30 years of failure in the league.

I'm a believer, not blindly, bit faithfully in Klopp the owerns and the squad. I couldn't care less about other clun's spending as far as I'm concerned they all have massive faps to fill. We can add for security but there is no guarantee it will actually benefot the squad. We're in an unfortunate position due to CV and perhapd Michael Edwards isn't the zen master we all think he is given our massive spending on wages etc although I could have that wrong lol but anyways, we have an elite squad rhat can win trophies this year and I look forwsrd to being one of the few who celebrated the highs and lows all season long back the lads 100%.


28.) 30 Aug 2021 10:26:45
Only one person on here that I’d take any notice of when it comes to finances - that’s Ed002….

Sorry Balboa

Yes we might not be able to afford any more players this season and of course I’d like to see the likes of Bissouma or and a wide player, but we have a decent team.

Do we want to be labelled as cheats like city? I mean, they can’t even fill their stadium, even though they practically have two first teams!

Do we want to be labelled plastic? Look at Chelsea, loads of dosh through Roman - I’ve been to stamford bridge on a number of European nights, plastic flags to wave on every seat in the home end, they were nothing for 50 years as the kop banner states.

United, a number on the stock exchange! A PLC, not a football club

I’ve seen us through the Moore’s era, no way did we spend like we have done over the last few seasons, transfer fees or wages - hence no league title for 30 years….

Then we have the stadium, great new main stand ( hospitality is second to none ) annie road being developed, new training ground - yes we know how it’s been funded, at least it’s being done!

I think the last few transfer windows haven’t been too shabby - Jota, Tomiskas ( looks a bargain ) Thiago and Konate - like I said earlier would love bissouma but if we don’t we don’t.

29.) 30 Aug 2021 11:28:19
I want to be labelled as winners Drogie. As the great man once said “football is about winning” and the other great man said “first is first and second is no where”. No one cares at the end of the season who filled the stadiums, who took on debt, who did a questionable deal. Winning the pl is all that matters.

30.) 30 Aug 2021 10:17:09
Sorry eds025 I didn't make myself clear, FSG are the best thing to happen to this club.

Could something better have happened, of course, but they saved us from going under and have invested in our future and when the time comes they will sell us and make a tidy profit, its a business at the end of the day all good.

{Ed025's Note - yeah mate i dont think you can have any complaints IDLLK, you were very near the precipice not so long ago and fsg rode in on a white charger to rescue the club, your right it is a business and im sure they will get their rewards in the end but thats the chance they took so good luck to them..

31.) 30 Aug 2021 12:25:29
Rocky Balboa, no matter how much you try to make such a ridiculous comparison, FSG are not like the Glazers and will NEVER be like them. Cheers.

32.) 30 Aug 2021 12:54:29
We all want to be winners Mark do we not? Amd we all know what shankley and Paisley have said.
I don’t want be labelled supporting a team in circumstances I mentioned above.

Ironically enough, we have been turned into PL winners under FSG unlike previous owners - another point I have strong views on.

33.) 30 Aug 2021 17:31:03
I take it Rocky is Harry's new username? Why can he not just go back to Harry Scouser (I think it was)?

34.) 30 Aug 2021 17:35:46
Are you saying you would stop supporting the club if we were bought bey questionable owners? Or you wouldn’t celebrate if we got new owners who put debt on the club but we were successful year on year?

35.) 30 Aug 2021 23:07:54
Well if I’m honest I love FSG the first owners that brought us Klopp and the team of magicians that won the premier league easily. So we didn’t beat Chelsea who cares it not like they are a terrible team. This season the boys will be back. As soon as they think big Virgil will cover us they will be back scoring fir fun. If your getting upset that we aren’t signing anyone go support Arsenal they have spent loads money. Good night you miserable bar stewards.

36.) 30 Aug 2021 23:39:11
First of all, getting new players is a treat a plus on the team we have. I remember a time when having one of the world's best in your defense, midfield, and attack was a feat. Have Liverpool supporters forgot when we had Paulson, Konchesky and Jovanovic. When the club was days away from administration and with the point deduction we would have possibly been relegated to the Championship. FSG have bought in players who are the best in the world at their position and what they do. On top of it this summer they gave them all contracts to keep them tied down for the future. However all LFC supporters complain about is the Twitter twat rumour. FSG does dictate the daily runnings of the club or we sign. Stop blaming them, they are attempting to make the club self sustainable. They have upgraded the stadium, training facilities, signed huge kit and sponsorship deals. Done everything to make the club competitive. They are thinking about the next season, but most LFC supporters think about only this season.

If you can't support us when we lose or draw, don't support us when we win - Bill Shankly.




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16 Jul 2023 10:37:20
Is there a player profile on llorente

Did he score against us before playing as a attacker of the bench if I remember correctly
May have knocked us out of the CL

Just always had him as a 8 or right sided midfielder

But seems he's more of a DM and right full well not a surprised.


{Ed001's Note - there isn't yet but he can play all over midfield and at full back.}

1.) 16 Jul 2023 11:04:52
He is not an out and out DM. He is not disciplined enough to play that role nor he is good in the air. He is more of a James Milner. Don’t understand how he can replace one of the best DM we have ever had.

2.) 16 Jul 2023 11:24:37
I wouldn't say no to him but I'd prefer a dedicated and focused player for the DM role. With Bajcetic as the backup or alternate. You can have a CM who's very good at various things (like a Milner) but master of none.

3.) 16 Jul 2023 11:46:38
Bang on ArAy. We should have simply gotten Ugarte earlier in the window. Florentino Luis would be a good shout as would be Manue Kone.

4.) 16 Jul 2023 12:04:35
Titanic - are you going to troll everything? he plays for the most disciplined manager and team in world football.

5.) 16 Jul 2023 11:38:35
Surely it will be both him and Lavia, for different reasons. One to replace Fab and the other to replace Hendo.

On the subject of Hendo, this situation has created difficulty since, if he stays now, he may get grief from some quarters whilst the buying side are trying to say that they have no money.
How can they have no money whilst offering so much in wages?

6.) 16 Jul 2023 11:53:38
I would be surprised to see Llorente as a first choice Fabinho replacement. To me, he's more of a Hendo backfill, if anything. He is tall and rangey, can carry the ball with lung bursting runs and is decent at making recovery runs. A flexible bench option. Ironically, he wears no14 too.

7.) 16 Jul 2023 12:33:29
Yeah seems he's more a hendo replacement rather then a fab replacement we need a proper dm in my opinion but then again I will assume any player working closely under simone will be disciplined and defensively minded enough.

8.) 16 Jul 2023 12:48:29
He is lightning quick and excellent defensively. Great touch and a solid passer and solid vision. Perfect for the DM role. Honestly not getting why people don t think he can. He is also a superb CM and RB.

He would be a clear first choice player if he arrived.

9.) 16 Jul 2023 13:52:38
Davey, a decent and multi-purpose squad player to give us what Milly/ Hendo would have offered. First choice no6. Nope.

10.) 16 Jul 2023 14:24:47
I think people are forgetting how poor Fabinho and the rest of our midfield was last season.

Llorente would be a big improvement if he joined.

He’s a much more developed player than Thuram or Kone who are both very raw.

11.) 16 Jul 2023 15:15:51
Navy, I don’t think anyone forgets Fab’s drop off. But you might want to ask how Llorente would stack up against Rodri, Caicedo (who looks to be set for Chelsea), Rice and Casemiro at our rivals. By all means add a Swiss Army knife like Llorente to the squad but we will also need a first choice in the no6 position if Fabinho completes his move.

If we want to compete that is.

12.) 16 Jul 2023 16:08:03
100 percent disagree fly. I watched a lot of him. He is a first choice DM if that's where you want to play him.

And personally this discipline stuff you talk about for the position is nonsense. He plays according to the position he is assigned.

My concern with him is injuries. He is not a Thiago but he has picked up a few. I'd be a little weary in that regard.

13.) 16 Jul 2023 17:31:55
I didn’t mention his discipline, Davey. But I see you’re sold on him.

14.) 16 Jul 2023 18:02:51
Apologies Fly. You are right. I mixed you with another poster.

On talent, I'm 100 percent sold on him but injuries drive me mad.

My choice if Touchmeni is off the table is to get Lavia in. He is ready in my opinion to go straight in.

15.) 16 Jul 2023 18:29:26
No worries Davey. Easily done.

Lavia seems to be one the club really wants to do. Probably still waiting for other things to be clarified before concluding it.

I’d still look at Manu Kone in addition, subject to the severity of his injury. Different to Lavia in style, but another duel winner that can play 6 and 8.

16.) 16 Jul 2023 20:41:44
Gandooosi, Ugarte was never an option for us after Klopp tapped him up and evenChelsea walked away when they realized they had to pay more than the actual release clause. It is what it is.

As for Llorente, if he is who Klopp wants then so be it.



02 Jun 2023 16:12:08
What does everyone make of Jones had a decent finish to the season is he ready to step up and push for a starting spot.


1.) 02 Jun 2023 16:20:21
He will rotate with McAllister for the LCM position. His last chance.

2.) 02 Jun 2023 16:23:56
Good squad player for me, he just needed the run of games he was getting.

3.) 02 Jun 2023 16:27:23
He's already pushing for a starting spot, he started 11 games in a row, it's now up to him to keep improving to keep hold of that starting spot.

4.) 02 Jun 2023 16:40:29
I do think with jones good form end of season and mc Alistair immeninent arrival that we should try and sell thiago. Wonderful player when he's fit but just misses too many games.
Jones/ mcalister/ baji for lcm.

5.) 02 Jun 2023 17:11:17
Jone has been a big frustration for a lot of fans with the injuries and pretty inconsistent form, but the ability is definitely there.

I think he deserves a proper chance, and given our obvious financial limitations it makes sense to prioritise other areas and see how he goes.

For me he has the look of an elite clubs academy player, in that the ability is very evident but the application is, or certainly has in the past been lacking.

6.) 02 Jun 2023 17:25:00
This was his season. His chance. His top performances came when the season was dead and Buried sadly.
The rest of it he was injured.
We need 3 midfielders to come in to the first 11 or we’re just making the same mistakes as last season and we all know how that was. 25 points worse off.
We’ve tried what we have, it failed, get the players in we need.

7.) 02 Jun 2023 18:11:13
Jones was one of a few positives of the season
Big pre season for the lad and next year could be his big breakout year . (Hopefully not another false dawn or freak injuries) I really hope he does as I’d love nothing more to see another scouser in the team .
He was playing their on merit not because the season was over yes he got a chance through someone’s misfortune but he took it .

8.) 02 Jun 2023 18:30:30
Jones wasn’t a positive last season as said above he turned up when the season was over. There is a player in there and hopefully he can finally be fully injury free and stake his claim. Having said all that we are looking for left midfielders for a reason.

I hope he doesn’t come out with the 10 goals and 10 assists nonsense again. Hope he gets his head down and takes his final opportunity. All up to Jones.

9.) 02 Jun 2023 18:34:00
Cover for Mac Allister if he signs. Ticks boxes for registration quotas.

10.) 02 Jun 2023 19:26:58
Digger. but thiago is world class. won't go down well that mate. If Jones can replace thiago. 3 or 4 decent games doesn't mean anything. Both injury prone.

11.) 02 Jun 2023 20:18:52
Maybe he didn’t turn up at the start of the season markp08 because he was injured for most of the 1st part of the season and the club didn’t want to rush his recovery .
If you can’t see a positive in the way Curtis played when he came in to the team

You really need to work on getting that glass half full and not half empty .

12.) 02 Jun 2023 20:22:25
It should be a penny dropping moment for jones. He had been unlucky with injuries and previously the players he was standing in for was miles better . He looked great in 4 out of every 5 games since he came back. Lucky for him we was crap in midfield to get chances. Next season is big for him with new players coming in he got to keep working or he will be moved on I reckon. I’d love him to take his chance hopefully he could become captain. Be Nothing better than a local lad being capt again.

13.) 02 Jun 2023 20:51:24
Jones is squad player at the moment and no more, he has a poor injury record and for me doesn’t do anything which warrants a starting position in a title contending starting 11, that’s ultimately the question we need to ask, is CJ a player which will help us compete for titles and champions league and for me that’s a no!

14.) 02 Jun 2023 21:03:08
Jones is not good enough imo. He had a handful of good games but I don't see him as being part of a title winning machine.

15.) 02 Jun 2023 21:15:16
DH Jones has contributed next to nothing as of yet. He has potential but he has been available on the bench countless times and Klopp has chosen not to use him.
He is a squad player and it’s all upto Jones if he wants more.

16.) 02 Jun 2023 22:17:49
@Mark, when Jones ‘turned up when the season was over’ we were nowhere near qualifying for Europe. In the 11 games he played we won 7 and drew 4 and we moved into a European qualifying place. I assume you don’t rate the Europa League? Perhaps you could ask the club to withdraw from the competition and you could send them the revenue it will generate? Of course having the promise of the revenue may assist in us in making more ‘acceptable’ signings in the next two windows which will enable us to get back into the CL next season.

Your opinion is that Jones isn’t good enough to play for us. I happen to think that you are wrong, but either way it’s a lot more convincing if you actually have some solid basis for an opinion.

17.) 02 Jun 2023 23:25:55
I don’t get the knocking he’s had a great run of games at the arse end of the season, and want him to build on that now. Hopefully now he kicks on and becomes a regular.
Keep in mind he’s also HG and we can’t afford to be slowing anymore at the minute. He’s still young enough to develop further, so a no brainier in terms of him staying and building on last seasons run.

18.) 02 Jun 2023 23:33:28
Exactly WDW3.

19.) 03 Jun 2023 06:28:03
Really happy for him to get a run of games and keep his fitness. His fitness will be key and also trust from the manager. He can be a great player and needs the chances.

20.) 03 Jun 2023 13:35:17
Mark, I would not pay that much attention to your opinion on Jones. U are the guy who wanted Jones sold in the summer of 2021 (while he was injured) to Villa when they had some interest in him already so even him turning a corner in his performances for the final 11/ 12 games of the season where he was brilliant and arguably MOTM at Leicester yet he proved nothing so far, yeah? As usual, you have no solid basis. Just hateful and mindless rants about the kid.

And saying CJ only turned up after the season was over (yeah, cos 11 games left is no longer a thing) or that he had proved nothing as of yet (patently false, btw) just shows how weak your argument (or lack thereof) is cos it's all based on feelings and emotions hence, your hate for Jones is based on essentially nothing concrete. Sad.

21.) 03 Jun 2023 20:33:26
I never said that he should be sold, I have repeated myself many times. You need to prove it as it will be on record. But Even if someone did suggest Jones should be sold they are not right or wrong atm. I have said all long there is a player in there but we haven’t seen it consistently yet. It’s all upto the player.

We will not go into the season with Jones starting as first choice that we all can agree.



28 Mar 2023 22:48:47
So we had an amazing season last season and a disaster this season
Sell vvd sell salah be ruthless
Should've of kept mane

This season we will have played the least games in a season for 6 seasons I think our squads just exhausted mentally and physically some players will bounce back after a summer off next season I don't think everyone past it we need to be clever in this window refreshing the squad get few those 40m winger style transfers in and keep creating superstars.


1.) 28 Mar 2023 23:05:09
Exhausted mentally and physically really! Just by playing football. 99% of footballers nowadays have no clue what a hard days work even looks like. They go to training in the best cars you can buy. kick a ball for a few hours, do run around then get a nice massage. Get paid more in one month than most people in a life time.
There’s people out there with two or more jobs just to put basic food on the table and still won’t have enough to pay all the bills. They have no choice but to keep going! Now that is mentally and physically exhausting. This isn’t really a dig at you Dezydekidd am just fed up of hearing the same excuses mate.

2.) 29 Mar 2023 00:51:57
You seen Mane’s performances for Bayern?
VVD has had an ordinary season, can he regain his best? If so, there’s nobody better. If not, he’s very hard to replace.
Remember how he and Alison transformed us?
Salah I agree. I was disappointed he was signed onto a huge contract.

{Ed001's Note - why do people keep saying we should have kept Mane? He wanted to go and was forcing a move away.}

3.) 29 Mar 2023 02:09:04
I hate it when we compare footballers to every day folk. I mean I get it, but let's be honest here. all of us would love to be a professional footballer but the vast majority of us didn't have the commitment, skill, attitude et al to make it. So let's not pretend that our ability to work hard in our average joe job is harder than working as a professional footballer.

4.) 29 Mar 2023 05:53:46
“the vast majority of us didn't have the commitment, skill, attitude et al to make it. So let's not pretend that our ability to work hard in our average joe job is harder”

Are you a motivational speaker by any chance faith or an MP currently in power?

5.) 29 Mar 2023 07:30:02
All that about pro footballers having it easy is a stupid argument anyway. Reminds me of my mum, she always use to say
"all he has to do is kick the ball ball in the net, I could do that! They shouldn't get paid if they don't score"

Nobody ever mentions the opposing pro footballers trying to stop them scoring! If you drop off in form them you aren't going to play to. the best of your ability are you? If you are even slightly more tired than your opposing player then. surely you're at a disadvantage already.

Or is this the whole woe is me my job is harder than anyone else's routine?

6.) 29 Mar 2023 08:07:54
The argument should be footballers Vs footballers as they aren’t playing every day people. If one top level footballer is even 5% below their normal level then the other other top level footballer will be better.

So if they are tired Vs other footballers due to last year’s workload or motivation slightly dropped due to disappointment of being so close to the quad then other teams will be better than us this season.

7.) 29 Mar 2023 08:32:41
Some of the fans are clearly as detached from reality as many of the players are.

8.) 29 Mar 2023 08:57:11
Flash which is higher?

Your horse or your ivory tower?

9.) 29 Mar 2023 09:27:14
Mané wanted out….

And as for comparing footballers to us “ regular folk “
Sometimes I work 15 hour days, often 6 or seven days a week.

Sorry, but these footballers are doing a job most would only dream of both in terms of salary and job satisfaction. Are they worried about their amethyst bills and mortgages going? Are they feck. They get the whole summer off and get off to exotic holidays.

Tired, mentally exhausted- try living in the real world.

{Ed025's Note - im with you drogie..

10.) 29 Mar 2023 09:38:59
The argument is baseless. Everybody knows footballers get paid to much but to suggest that they can not suffer from mental stress and burnout is laughable. Elite people in any job suffer from the same things. Wether you work as a salesman, doctor, surgeon or footballer all can suffer from burnout. I keep coming back to this but no team has ever played a full amount of available games and been in the hunt for 4 trophies until the final kicks of those games. Let that sink in for a while. The amount of mental strain and physical endurance to get the close would have been enormous. I don’t excuse lazy behaviour but give the boys a bloody break. 6 seasons of being right at the top, they deserve our support and an off season once in a while. Apologies for the rant but I’m tired of armchair keyboard warriors taking the p@ss.

{Ed025's Note - yeah my heart bleeds for them.. :)

11.) 29 Mar 2023 09:39:27
I love the duel argument.
“ Should sell older players winding down their contracts”
“ Never should have sold Mane”.

12.) 29 Mar 2023 09:44:20
The narrative around Klopp rinsing his players more than any other manager is a little worrying, although last seasons ultimate failure alongside the huge number of games must have been crushing for the players.
If we could get 70m for Mo now, I'd take it, which sounds daft considering all he has done, but he looks spent, and this is a ruthless game.

13.) 29 Mar 2023 10:36:23
Footballers are in the entertainment industry and its huge TV fees that largely pay their wages. I'm sure most of us could sing a bit but don'r moan that Ed Sheeran is paid more for his efforts.

14.) 29 Mar 2023 10:43:17
Faith, Charliesgrumpydad -> Most of us are not professional footballers because we didn’t have the talent nor skillset at a young age that would ordinarily bestow a greater degree of patience in which we’d better accustom to the rigours of high-level football (we were told we weren’t good enough after a few training sessions and didn’t bother giving it another go) . Admittedly, most would not make it regardless. Fundamentally, elite footballers don’t know why they’re so good at football, hence why most elite players make poor managers. The idea they spent their youth going to bed at 7pm, up by 6am and eating boiled vegetables 3 times a day is ludicrous. The regularity of young players getting into mischief can attest to that.
Top level professional football can be compared to regular jobs, and by that I mean it is a much easier life, with everything you ever wanted (materially) given to you on demand - the opposite of most people. To excuse these players’ miserable performances as due to tiredness is unacceptable. Though I understand that players suffer from the same ailments as the general population, pretending that professional football is as hard as everyday life is for many is insincere and disingenuous.

15.) 29 Mar 2023 10:49:56
Sell both? Really?

Look at Salahs numbers - 22 goals and 10 assists - pretty decent for somebody you want to bin no?

VVD - Been poor tbh by his lofty standards. Tbh I think he played far too much football on his return from injury. Should be rotated more, especially when going through poor form

Salah too plays every game, again it's rotation options we need - if VVD continues all next season in poor form then yesh maybe sell then, but rotate him and give him a chance

As for Mane, the guy wanted out - thank him and let it go.

16.) 29 Mar 2023 11:39:08
Not sure why anyone is responding to the OP, personally. Sounds more like a whind up post trying to get a reaction cos he is all over the shop, IMO. I stopped reading as soon as he said "we should have kept Mane".

Seriously, Is he talking about the same Mane who has completely lost is mojo currently at Bayern? The same one many wanted gone during last season YET some of the same people changed their tune as soon as things got bad saying he should have been kept even tho, he wanted to go even before the 20/ 21 season already? That same Mane? Yeah, take a day off, OP. Must be a slow day at the office.

17.) 29 Mar 2023 12:03:37
I think the fact that VVD is coming in for criticism from the Dutch press, as well as Gullit and Van Basten, for his lack of leadership as captain of Holland is particularly telling.

Yes, VVD playing at 90% of the old, pre-Pickford VVD, is still one of the best in the world but he is not playing at 90%. He is continually switched off, lacking in motivation and looking to blame others. He gets away with it for us, although some like the Plank (Steve Nicol) are highlighting his deficiencies.

However, he is under the spotlight in the Netherlands because he is captain of the national team. I personally do not think he is captain material. I also think he needs to raise his game and switch back on, attention wise. Being laid back is something he always had a tendency to do but now he needs to get his hands dirty and do his talking in the pitch.

18.) 29 Mar 2023 12:33:58
“Seriously, Is he talking about the same Mane who has completely lost is mojo currently at Bayern? “

The same Mane who has 11 goals and 5 assists in less than 1800 minutes of football? And you think he has completely lost his mojo?
Personally after reading that I think you’ve lost the plot.

19.) 29 Mar 2023 12:39:29
The thing I find about footballers salaries, is because they are always listed as a weekly wage, people often don't realise that other sports pay even more to elite players. If you broke down the top earners in F1, basketball, baseball etc, it is actually quite eye opening.
Secondly, what a lot of footballers earn is nothing in comparison to senior business executives when you take into account bonuses etc. Just look at some of the top earning CEO's, bankers, lawyers etc. I know some doctors who are earning ridiculous amounts of money as contractors etc.
Its all relative, if you exceed in your desired profession, you will do very well financially. I don't begrudge anyone who has worked hard to better themselves financially.

20.) 29 Mar 2023 14:08:47
Selling Mane was the right decision. He looked like he was losing his pace and he wanted to go anyway.

Selling Virgil is not a pressing issue as he isn't agitating for a move, but also if we wanted a player like Gvardiol he would be the logical player to make way and i believe it's an upgrade. At least Virgil can stay fit though unlike our other options at centre back.

With Salah, i don't see a better right winger in world football. 22 goals and 10 assists already is crazy numbers. But if he decides he wants to leave I'd let him go and reinvest the money in a younger model. I'd be gutted but I also think we'd find a new way of playing to cope with the loss.

21.) 29 Mar 2023 14:44:07
is this the same Mane that had to moved inside to actually be useful on the football pitch for last season? because every time he played out wide he looked dreadful, go and search on Bayern fan forums or anything like that they are not a happy bunch and thought he was going to be a superstar for them.

22.) 29 Mar 2023 14:50:19
Is the OP the knee or the jerk?

23.) 29 Mar 2023 15:22:19
Stuie top CEOs are responsible for often 100,000+ staff, all the rubbish that goes with running huge companies and hitting huge growth targets across the globe. Let alone the unbelievable pressure from shareholders if you don’t give them a return or your job is gone.

A footballer is responsible for keeping fit where possible and doing their best.

Not compatible one bit.

24.) 29 Mar 2023 16:25:07
Pack away the jealousy lads. All you need to succeed as a premiership footballer is an enormous amount of talent and almost as much luck.

25.) 29 Mar 2023 19:47:23
Health care workers or footballers - who do people think work harder or in more potentially life threatening situations? Rhetorical question, but in my opinion if anybody has pause to think, that would be a worry.

26.) 29 Mar 2023 22:35:33
JK - not sure what you're getting at but my point remains. Let's not talk as if these guys just lucked into their roles by sitting around all day.

27.) 29 Mar 2023 22:25:32
1jj, it is compatible in the fact that not al CEOs work under the same circumstances and was merely an example to highlight the fact that football players are a small minority of a group whom earn astronomical fees, though I also realise you neglect to reference the numerous other examples used. I have first hand experience working with people at that level and no, the vast majority are not responsible for 100,000 staff, sometimes barely 100,but still earn vast sums of money.
Secobdly, WDW, but not all Healthcare workers earn their money in life threatening situations as you out it. Again, this amplifies the fact that people have tunnel vision when it comes to professional footballers and likely unfairly tarnish them.

28.) 30 Mar 2023 06:12:13
Faith of course your point remains and so does mine.

I can’t see where I’ve said “these guys just lucked into their roles by sitting around all day”

Anyways I’m off to my average Joe job.



29 Jan 2023 19:38:30
I'd take Mac Alistair he looked as good canciedo and Enzo at times better

Wonder what brightons price for him is if 70 will probably get canciedo with his statement.


1.) 29 Jan 2023 19:50:14
As Argentina showed in the WC, you just needs legs in midfield if you have a touch of class up front. Unfortunately the we are being let down in all departments currently and creating next to know chances.

Literally looks like we just can’t be bothered against the so called smaller teams. We have beaten city, Tottenham and done well in champs league so it shows imo mentality problem even more so than players legs going.

2.) 29 Jan 2023 19:53:12
Any shiny new toy will do.

3.) 29 Jan 2023 21:12:43
They've all got unproven and unattainable solutions, ArAy.

4.) 29 Jan 2023 21:35:34
The answer isn’t in the squad though, is it ArAy? Any half decent well organised side with a competent manager can beat us because of a non existent midfield. We’ve wasted a season for what? A non existent chance of signing Jude Bellingham? SMDH.

5.) 29 Jan 2023 22:34:38
Mfdoom, no the answer is not in the squad. That's my opinion too. You could bring any new player in and I doubt there would be much of a difference. Because a deep malaise and severe lack of confidence has set in. Sitting on the outside, it's almost impossible to see (and silly to talk about) what's going in on the inside. But I doubt there's a lot of good stuff happening there; if one accepts that whatever is happening on the inside translates itself to what is shown on the field, by the players.



22 Jan 2023 18:53:41
Does anyone think Luiz diaz could play a bernardo silva role in midfield?


{Ed025's Note - hes not horrible enough dezy.. :)

1.) 22 Jan 2023 19:56:38
didn't he. play some midfield with Porto? Personally, I like the idea.

2.) 22 Jan 2023 19:59:06
Nice 1 ed25 ? . Dam good player bernado silva all the same.

{Ed025's Note - very talented digger, but a nasty piece of work mate..

3.) 22 Jan 2023 20:10:10
Agree ed25 hate him but he's a top top player and just seems as with jota ninez gapko and diaz caravillho can all play on the left might be a idea.

4.) 22 Jan 2023 20:41:12
He’s a horrible waste of oxygen. Bernado Silva epitomises most things wrong with modern day footballers.

5.) 22 Jan 2023 21:13:58
Interesting how when things aren’t going well fans want Managers to play players in different positions.

6.) 22 Jan 2023 22:38:25
Unlikely he will get in the side as a left winger so you would hope the club have a long term plan.

7.) 22 Jan 2023 22:42:54
No just buy one! We can set up a go fund me.

8.) 22 Jan 2023 22:47:28
First name on the team sheet (when fit) for me. He was our best outfield player before his injury, so he plays in his natural position. Move the others around and reward good performance with game time. Good players will find a way to play themselves in to a team.

9.) 22 Jan 2023 22:48:26
Wrong thread.

10.) 22 Jan 2023 22:53:38
False 9 maybe Mark?

11.) 23 Jan 2023 08:31:30
ed25, our rare agreement
but with you on this
BS is an absolutely brilliant player but on the other end of the scale as a person.

12.) 23 Jan 2023 11:18:01
Forgive my ignorance but what’s BS done?

{Ed025's Note - type in bernado siva Liverpool mate and you will get the picture..




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09 Apr 2023 01:15:50
Mc Alister won't be 60m they will hold out and he's a pro respectful to them so will have to be the right deal to get him

Looked better then Enzo at the world Cup for me aswell I think him and jade sort out a lot of our issues.




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28 Mar 2023 23:38:49
Were does Bellingham compare to the midfielders tearing it up in the PL already will he be a 6 or 8 for us
With our current mf what's the best 3 with him added to the squad thaigo and fab or hendo harvey as in who does he compliment more.




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03 Nov 2022 09:01:58
How much for brightons caicedo might be a cheaper alternative.




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11 Sep 2022 22:41:52
Few websites had it up as a option.




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03 Jul 2022 13:12:32
Sangare for naby and even ox would leave it with all boxes ticked trent cover then a no.6/ no.8 midfielder young attacking mid and a no 9 was on most people's wish list salah new contract aswell.





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16 Jul 2023 12:33:29
Yeah seems he's more a hendo replacement rather then a fab replacement we need a proper dm in my opinion but then again I will assume any player working closely under simone will be disciplined and defensively minded enough.




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02 Jul 2023 22:54:35
Ed001 is that it ir another DM style midfielder to come in even if just opinions rather then fact.


{Ed001's Note - I believe we still want another midfielder but not sure we will get one. But then I never considered we would have a chance of Szobzolai either, so who knows this summer? Defender is the priority now. Left sided defender. But the way we operated last season it will probably be another forward coming in!}



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14 Jun 2023 22:23:10
You want 4 midfielders.




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14 Feb 2023 16:47:44
Morton is out on loan for Blackburn start 23 of 29 games and made sub appearances in the other 6 getting some vital experience

Anyone been keep tabs on him?




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06 Feb 2023 22:33:29
Alot of next season depends on nunez and gapko finding there form if nunez put away half the easy chances he had we'd be much better off this season So a lot of pressure on those young men for me along with a possible overhaul in midfield we need to get the right players in in what could possibly be one of the most important transfer windows we've had.




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