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10 Feb 2020 00:13:44
Any legs in Bayern wanting our bobby Ed's do u think he would want too leave.

{Ed002's Note - Roberto Firmino (F) Bayern see RF as a versatile forward who can play on the left or through the middle but they have other priorories, so nothing is likely to happen. A way down the list.}


1.) 10 Feb 2020 08:01:50
Why would Bobby swap the champions of the Premier League for the champions of the Bundesliga? Doesn't make much sense.


2.) 10 Feb 2020 12:42:23
Steady on Gregarious it’s not won yet mate.


3.) 10 Feb 2020 13:38:21
Your right virgil steady on Greg Bayern haven't won the league yet🤣🤣🤣.


4.) 10 Feb 2020 17:24:14
Gregarious, don't forget champions of both Europe and The World.


5.) 10 Feb 2020 18:12:33
Bobby would have to leave kickin and screamin he’s the fan fav and he loves us! Not a hope it’s lazy journalists! Was vvd last week it’s boring!


6.) 10 Feb 2020 19:21:29
No (non boyhood) footballer loves the fans beyond Money or glamour.


7.) 11 Feb 2020 15:05:55
Bobby couldn't understand pipco going to Barcelona and tryed to get him to stay so why would he leave for bayern am pretty sure the wages would be less I maybe wrong about that so please correct that if I'm wrong.


8.) 11 Feb 2020 17:14:40
What none of us know is what footballing ambitions or dreams any player has. They may include winning as many trophies as possible; playing for one or more of the world’s most famous clubs; playing different types of football in different leagues; sampling the different cultures in several continents or countries; having a settled long-term base to raise a family; staying with his hometown club for his full career; earning as much money as possible in what is a relatively short career; or a mix of these. We should simply enjoy the great players that come to our great club and wish them all the best if and when they move on.

{Ed025's Note - only one of those has any credibility WW ....its the money mate and anyone who claims different...is lying through their teeth..


9.) 11 Feb 2020 18:28:56
Ed025, such cynicism in one so young! I will give you 3 examples off the top of my head to challenge your view :

Matt Le Tissier - could have had his pick of the big teams, earned more money, been more famous, won more trophies but stayed with Southampton throughout his career.

Alan Shearer - when he left Blackburn, was wanted by Manchester United where he would have earned more money and won more trophies but signed for his boyhood club Newcastle United instead.

Steven Gerrard - could definitely have signed for Chelsea and probably a number of other top clubs, earned more money and won the PL trophy but stayed with Liverpool.

Other posters will have lots of other examples.

{Ed025's Note - le tissier was from a different era WW so we can dismiss him, shearer followed the cash to go to blackburn and at newcastle was still one of the highest paid players in the league, gerrard tried to leave for the cash but buckled under the pressure of threats to him and his family...but good try mate.. :)


10.) 11 Feb 2020 19:21:59
Posters, help! Please come to my assistance and demonstrate to Ed025 that modern footballers are not all the greedy, money-grabbing, selfish so-and-sos he would have us believe. Or am I hopelessly naive?

Oh, and Ed025 - didn’t your very own Binman turn down an approach from Ferguson before he signed Schmeichel to stay with the Blues?

{Ed025's Note - again a different era WW, its all about the money now mate and i wish i could say different..but i cant..


11.) 11 Feb 2020 19:42:05
Ighalo? took a pay cut to join Man Utd last month?

What about all the Juve players that stayed when the club was relegated? They took a 25% pay cut i believe to stay with the club they loved?

Totti turning down Real Madrid to stay at Roma?

Lahm turning down Barc to stay at Bayern?

Hamsik turning down Juve to stay at Napoli?

What about Jamie Vardy? Turned down a pay rise at Arsenal to stay at Leicester?

I am sure there are plenty others! COme on people help us out here. All of those players could have earnt more if they moved!

Red Sandman.

{Ed025's Note - ighalo made a mistake going to china and so im not counting him sandman, but there are a few good examples there mate...especially totti, but the lack of genuine candidates actually validates my original assumption i feel..


12.) 11 Feb 2020 21:59:27
To be fair 0025 I only managed a list of less than 10 and it took me a good while to pull it together. You on the other hand could rattle off about 100 names of players who chased the money so I think your point very much stands true.

Do you think a salary cap is the way to go or are we now too far gone?

Red Sandman.

{Ed025's Note - i think there is no turning back on this one sandman, agents have all the say now mate and im afraid we are stuck with it..


13.) 12 Feb 2020 07:34:59
Red Sandman, thanks for the support.

Ed025, I have to concede this one to you. I still think there are some players in the modern game who are not motivated exclusively or primarily by money but you are probably right that for the majority the money comes first, second and last.

{Ed025's Note - it really does im afraid mate..


14.) 12 Feb 2020 12:51:24
Somebody promised me a giant pay packet and I'd be on the first plane. It doesn't make a player evil to leave for pastures new when big money is on the table. This is why it's important players like our front three, VVD, Alisson etc. Understand that we can fight for titles on multiple fronts and pay them competitively with the other billionaires. Otherwise why wouldn't they leave? Who could truly blame them? We whine about it as fans but know in our hearts we would likely do the same. Footballers don't last for ever and are only in their prime a small portion of that time. You have to get what you can. Loyalty is fine in theory, and I can imagine none of our highest earners are angling for the exit door just yet, but if someone for ex. Barcelona says we are going to pay you what Messi makes and groom you to be his replacement how is he supposed to turn that down?

{Ed025's Note - that depends on how much money you have..or want..or need amerigo, i will have the run of the mill player in a mid table side who is being courted by a big fish and doubling his wages mate, but these so called superstars like neymar who jump ship for mega bucks make me sick...how much money do they need?, its greed, downright avarice and in these days of austerity, foodbanks and people on zero hours contracts...they should be ashamed of themselves..


 

 

06 Jan 2020 23:25:12
Surely we are not going too let wijnaldum go without offering a contract, one of klopps go to men and a vital cog in the machine, if he wants to leave it's another story but replacing him will be difficult he has become one of the first players on the team sheet .


1.) 07 Jan 2020 01:44:49
The man has 18 months left on his contract. There is talk of him moving in the summer, but there may well be a contract offer on the table by then. Who knows? But talk of him going is about 18 months premature.


2.) 07 Jan 2020 09:30:49
I like Gini a lot but it’s the position I least worry about replacing. Fab is holding, Hendo/ Milner in Ginis role with Ox/ Keita etc in the AM role. Still hope he stays and 18 months is a long time to sort something out. No worries.


3.) 07 Jan 2020 11:11:08
Gini has been outstanding this season, can’t believe Klopp would be happy for him to leave, for me he’s undoubtedly in our starting XI.


4.) 07 Jan 2020 11:13:46
I sincerely hope he stays and suspect he’ll get something soon based on how often Klopp turns to him in the big matches. His ability to protect the ball when under pressure is invaluable against the top sides where it doesn’t all go our way.


5.) 07 Jan 2020 11:44:25
Can't see him going anywhere to be honest, he's a player that Klopp can rely on and I would think it's only a matter of time before a new contract is signed.


6.) 07 Jan 2020 20:48:49
I can see him going as this rumour has just come out of the blue. I like him a lot but he's 29yo with 18 months on his contract, let him leave and hopefully jones will get some more game time.


7.) 07 Jan 2020 21:22:51
Gini has said he is happy at Liverpool and a contract will be discussed soon.


8.) 07 Jan 2020 23:35:14
Gini plays as many games as he can really, and has been fantastic for us in recent times. I can’t see any reason why he’d want to leave or we would want him too.


9.) 08 Jan 2020 11:10:15
Could it be that he's grown frustrated perennially playing defensively in the Klopp system when he could really thrive as an offensive midfielder like he is in his national team? That's the one thing I worry about personally.


10.) 08 Jan 2020 20:20:43
An agreement will surely be reached with Gini. A recent article about our squad wages has him as one of our lowest earners in the first team squad. I guess it's all going to come down to negotiating a wage that both we and he are happy with.


11.) 08 Jan 2020 20:37:00
A national newspaper has published the wages of Liverpool players, and I think most would agree that Gini is being paid quite a low figure (£3.9 million per anum according to the paper) considering that he's often a key part of the midfield.


12.) 08 Jan 2020 22:32:23
No idea how he's making ends meet, EpicPotato.


13.) 10 Jan 2020 12:51:08
I'm more intrigued that mane is on half of salah and miles behind bobby I'd of thought the three should be on similar money I know the yearly salary is more than I could earn in a lifetime but I would be pissed if someone joined my place of work after me does the same job and earns double what I do doesn't seem right.


14.) 11 Jan 2020 03:27:16
Mane only signed that last season too and he could probably have demanded double but that's an example of his character. He's not greedy or ego driven, he's humble and genuine. He spends a huge amount building schools etc back in Senegal and has never shown that greed affects his career. I saw a picture lately of him holding his phone which was an outdated old iphone with the screen cracked to bits, haha he seems too modest to demand a huge salary.

Similar to ngolo kante who didn't care what wages were being offered and he shows up to training in a 2nd hand hatchback car I can't remember which model but the story was hilarious, i love hearing rare stories of how top class footballers carry themselves without letting money affect them.


 

 

20 Oct 2018 20:50:18
Quite obvious our midfield is good but not creative enough we can run and pass sideways all day but we need someone who can pick a pass. klopp is very reliant on the old crop, I want to see fabihno and Keita in that midfield. really hope they can adapt. I am surprised they haven't as they have quality . Would be nice too have Shaq in the team in front of 2 midfielders as he is our most creative spark.


1.) 20 Oct 2018 21:11:10
Shaqiri to fill the Coutinho hole all day. He’s looking like more and note of a bargain every time he plays.


2.) 20 Oct 2018 21:48:56
He is needed for that bit of magic give him protection with 2 midfielders behind and let him pick passes make runs, the usual front 3 could benefit from his vision and craft, I also think Keita should b given a go there too run at people an bring others into play would b good for his confidence too free the shackles an have licence too attack , shame we never got fekir obviously.


3.) 21 Oct 2018 13:07:50
Maybe against the smaller more stubborn teams we need to play shaqiri in stead of third misfielder.

We will click, there were moments in the past 2 and a half season with klopp where we would not click as an attacking team and lost or drew games. I think we were 9th after that second int break last season.

This season the defense is supporting when we aren't scoring 3-4 goals. The goals will come im not worried.


 

 

17 Jun 2018 15:44:40
Eds I definitely think we need different options up front, maybe a target man for certain games, is the young lad taiwo awonyi anywhere near up to it as this year he has progressed more with the club he on loan at, from what I can see he looks tall strong quick an potentially a nuisance, what's your opinion on him.

{Ed002's Note - Awoniyi will go on loan again - getting a Work Permit has proven not possible. I suspect the club will look to Anderlecht as the preferred option but other sides such as Brugge and Standard Liege might be interested in a loan.}


1.) 17 Jun 2018 16:25:59
That does make sense Ed. He did quite well in Belgium, would playing for a more higher profile team help get a permit Ed?

{Ed002's Note - Potentially, but one I suspect will be a struggle to keep in the longer term. He will go on the pre-season tour of the United States and then on loan.}


2.) 17 Jun 2018 16:35:20
Ed2 are the work permit committee pissed off with us? The only reason I ask is because of how we got Grujic his by lying and I can only imagine we aren't in their good books because of that?

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool abused the system so they were certainly at the time. The whole Grujic situation has been a terrible mess but it will soon be over.}


3.) 17 Jun 2018 17:17:35
How in demand is ..............

{Ed002's Note - This is the page - we are not going to answer questions about random players.}


4.) 17 Jun 2018 17:22:42
Interesting Ed2, thank you!


5.) 17 Jun 2018 17:41:56
Cheers Ed.


6.) 17 Jun 2018 18:10:11
Why can’t Solanke be the target man?


7.) 17 Jun 2018 18:26:49
He is better behind a striker apparently slightly deeper that's where he plays for England youth teams.


8.) 17 Jun 2018 19:44:49
Ed002, will it be even more difficult after Brexit?

{Ed002's Note - Not for people like Awoniyi.}


9.) 17 Jun 2018 21:09:46
Sure, but I’m mean will the permit panel be a bit overwhelmed when the EU players have to apply?


 

 

 

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07 Feb 2020 09:01:12
We have a goalkeeper who baptizes people how blessed are we!


1.) 07 Feb 2020 09:39:41
In the last 3 months he has performed more baptisms (2) than he has conceded goals (1) 😂😂😂

Talk about safe hands.


2.) 07 Feb 2020 17:11:16
What a stat lfcste29.


3.) 07 Feb 2020 20:20:30
It's a fun stat but it's not true unfortunately

Wolves
Monterrey
Napoli
Crystal Palace
Man City

are within the last 3 months.


 

 

03 Feb 2020 11:00:36
Looking back the minute coutihno pissed off we have gone from strength to strength, at the time I was gutted but what an absolute blessing that was and I am grateful now he huffed an puffed an got his way, football has a funny way of working out .


1.) 03 Feb 2020 12:29:01
I remember writing a big rant about how we would never get anywhere if we don't keep our best players together at one time to grow together.

And up to that point I had always been quite balanced about FSG.

Sorry FSG.


2.) 03 Feb 2020 17:48:05
I posted at the time that we are better without him. My thinking was that he did his best work on the left of the front three. Once we’d signed Salah and moved Mane to the left I just couldn’t see any room for him.
We tried him in midfield but he just didn’t have the legs needed to work in our midfield and you don’t want a player like him coming deep to pick up the ball as he will always try the Hollywood pass or try to take people on and lose the ball putting pressure on the back 4.
I could only see him as an impact sub or rotation player in our system. Lovely little player on his day and capable of some amazing things but in our system he doesn’t fit.
Selling him and using the money the way we did has to be the best business our club has done since selling Keegan and bringing in Kenny.
No player is bigger than the club.


3.) 03 Feb 2020 20:09:06
Cou has fulfilled his dream of moving to Barcelona and winning titles and trophies with them. I'm happy for him. We on the other hand have grown from strength to strength and our dream of a winning #No.19 beckons in earnest.

I am happy for Cou to have realized his dream just as I am happy for LFC realizing its dream of #No.19. Everything is awesome.

{Ed025's Note - dirty stinking little traitor if you ask me, feigned injury to orchestrate a move from the club who made him...100% scumbag..


4.) 03 Feb 2020 22:48:33
Beckers Pecker very well said.


5.) 03 Feb 2020 23:14:28
Agree ed025. Faking injuries for the club that paid him. Just play your game, clap your fans, and leave. I’d have more respect for any man who does that. Good riddance.

{Ed025's Note - im with you L8..


6.) 04 Feb 2020 01:38:29
Ed025 very well said.

{Ed025's Note - these guys get idolised by the fans IDOG, yet some of them dont give a toss mate..


7.) 04 Feb 2020 12:44:22
He would often be the first player I'd get rid of in FIFA or Football Manager, he is a very good player and would have kept him if we had enough money to make the buys we needed, I think he could still do bits for us, but I was never worried, especially at the price we got for him and after the way he acted.


8.) 04 Feb 2020 18:03:30
CB, I disagree. With the way this well-oiled machine is operating now, Cou would be lucky to make the stands at this point.


 

 

25 Jan 2020 09:39:45
I don't know why we don't go for bruno Fernandes a proper goalscoring midfielder and assist machine he will improve any team in the world .


1.) 25 Jan 2020 09:43:56
If we had him the best we could possibly be is 2 points better off. Money well spent I say . . . Lol I'm being facetious, but ye great player. Not needed.


2.) 25 Jan 2020 09:49:25
At the expense of who? Hendo? no chance on current form. Gini? Far too important at what he does.

Fernandes would be a good option from the bench if things aren't going our way, but he wouldn't come to us to fill that role, nor do I think we should be spending that kind of money for someone to come off the bench.


3.) 25 Jan 2020 10:58:35
He's too lightweight for our system. He can only really perform in a centre attacking midfield role with two holding players behind him. A bit like Coutinho, the only way he'd fit into Klopps system would be on the left of the front 3. He's not better than what we have and therefore a total waste of money and wages.


4.) 25 Jan 2020 11:14:10
OP, the guy is overrated by the English media, IMO. His agents have done a solid job of hyping him up for the past 9 months or so proposing him to clubs like Spurs and Utd who really weren't that keen on him whereas to me, he ain't all that.

Bruno's not even better than Coutinho who we let go and STILL wouldn't hack it in this team as it stands, IMO. Utd are desperate so they are easy prey for his agents to feast on, IMO. Spurs clearly never wanted him so now, it's Utd turn down the barrel. If he was that good, why would he still be toiling at Sporting where they say only utd have bid for him? The reason IMO, is that no one has really wanted him so cos if he was that good clubs would have been queuing for him. Utd is the only one cos they are desperate.

{Ed047's Note - can’t argue with that, surely the queue of clubs would be longer and more stellar if he was the real deal.


5.) 25 Jan 2020 15:25:09
A bit of harsh assessment there, are we now measuring players on the list of clubs after? Hendo should be rock bottom then. Get Bruno, the German Mid kid and KM from PSG, probably Isco and the Maddison dude off the bench when things aren't going well.


6.) 25 Jan 2020 16:03:43
OKD, I don't think anyone is doing any of that and your Hendo comparison makes lacks logic, IMO. In fact, Hendo has been underrated for years and is only getting his fully-deserved credit right now (better late than never) while Bruno, is contrary to Hendo, overrated and NOBODY actually wants him so they have to shop him around, IMO.

His agents are hawking him around left, right and center for good reason. He ain't all that, period. If he was the real deal, why would they be hawking around to all and sundry so openly to the point of the utter ridiculous?


7.) 25 Jan 2020 16:12:21
To be fair, no clubs are interested at £70m. If sporting knock £20m off that, plenty of teams would be interested I reckon. He doesn't really suit our midfield from what I've seen, but he'll be a good player for whoever signs him.


8.) 25 Jan 2020 16:27:26
If keita can't string 5 games together I would rather have bruno Fernandes too be honest, I think if he comes the prem he will prove how good he is .


9.) 25 Jan 2020 16:33:17
"If he was that good clubs would have been queuing for him"

{Ed047's Note - so if Mane was up for sale there would be no queue?🤦‍♂️


10.) 25 Jan 2020 19:23:47
Queues and quality of players in one sentence just doesn't sit well. Personally think the Bruno guy is a great player, the opinion that only Spurs and United are pushing for him should not be a reflection of the players ability.


11.) 25 Jan 2020 21:30:28
He's a good player but utd would be a bad move for him. I also agree that 70mil is ridiculous for him. If he were at 45/ 50 I reckon he'd have been snapped up. The neymar transfer changed the game but it shouldn't have really. Everyone knows that psg are immensely wealthy. It's stupid to suggest we can all keep up with them financially. Yes it's ruined neymar's game. I hate him but he's a decent footballer. Should be competing in a better league. Most players leave the French league when they've made it but its the reverse for neymar.

Fernandes is a very creative player, he's strong on the ball and an intelligent player. He's got everything you need to make it in the prem or la liga imho. I think he'd be decent for Liverpool actually, and if he were available for a bit less, I see him as a decent keita replacement. That said, I haven't given up on keita yet. Yes, it's getting silly with his injuries but I think he'll overcome them. He was top notch before this latest injury. Was getting assists and goals every week and looked like the player we paid big for.


12.) 25 Jan 2020 22:04:33
Who was in for salah, Robertson, firmino, coutinho etc players excel when they come to liverpool an play for klopp, bruno Fernandes would be on fire with us, people won't like this but I believe he is more handy than the ox.


13.) 25 Jan 2020 22:19:47
Hailstones, you are free to have that opinion regarding Ox BUT that is it, an opinion. Also to your initial point, I don't recall any of these players agents hawking them around to clubs and putting feelers or "come and get me" inuendos in the media to drum up interest in them. Did you?


 

 

19 Jan 2020 22:15:01
Does anyone know when paul glatzel is back, I thought he had lots of potential. Big shame he got injured.


1.) 19 Jan 2020 22:32:34
Looked decent didn't he. Is he still recovering from the injury in pre season? I was watching that and it looked awful. He was good though, I thought he was the better of the two with Bobby duncan.


2.) 19 Jan 2020 23:10:33
Same ere, he was quick tall direct and I hope he can come back strong as said above he looked physically better of the 2 with him an bobby duncan .


3.) 20 Jan 2020 04:38:09
Glatzel has a better allround game in my opinion. duncan tended to be all about being a penalty box predator. whereas Glatzel was happy to impact the game from deeper. his link up play was better and was better at one-on-ones.


4.) 20 Jan 2020 20:50:38
Funny i was just thinking about him this morning also. He said 8 months in an interview in October upon signing his new contract. Which means June, so he should be back for pre-season and to take his place as the U23's striker. I agree he looked a more natural Firmino replacement than Duncan did. Whose decision to move to Fiorentina btw still looks questionable since he's yet to make his debut as they've got 4 strikers ahead of him in the pecking order. Meanwhile, he missed out on Liverpool's league cup games.


 

 

14 Jan 2020 15:59:53
I really hope we trust curtis Jones and start giving him the experience he needs an craves, the reason the likes of grealish, maddison, foden, mount, are shining is exposure too 1st team football and curtis Jones is ready and he could be a serious player for us .


1.) 14 Jan 2020 16:58:15
I agree but play instead of who?


2.) 14 Jan 2020 17:01:25
Curtis Jones does look good but many posters are going overboard about the youngsters in general. I have heard all this before Wilson, Woodburn, Partridge, Kent etc. It hardly ever works out the way we or the club hoped. Look at Hoover he doesn't get a look in atm, there were many threads this time last year saying he should be given more game time and how great he looked.

Curtis is only 18 and looks a terrific prospect but he has to break into the best team in the world, he has to be TAA level. Shaq, Lalana, Minamino, Ox they will all play before Curtis. Next season he should have more chance.


3.) 14 Jan 2020 17:23:37
I think the maturity in his play is improving he is captain of the u23s and phsically is getting stronger, I jus feel the more exposure too 1st team football he will fit in nice, I don't mean starting games but getting minutes off the bench an obviously fa cup games it's hard cos of who is in front of him, but a lot of young British attacking mids seem too b adapting well this season an I am excited too see wat he can do .


4.) 14 Jan 2020 17:49:50
U23 standard is league 1 at best. He needs to wait till Lalana and Shaq leaves and perform great in training. Foden hardly plays, Mount's form has dipped massively and the teams they are playing for are a few levels down from ours. Am sure Curtis would play most weeks for Villa. Nice idea but FA cup is his limit this season.


5.) 14 Jan 2020 18:01:36
He will play next round of fa cup and give him another chance to shine and make it more difficult for Klopp to leave him out.


6.) 14 Jan 2020 21:51:33
Mark how does hoever not get a look in?


7.) 14 Jan 2020 22:41:39
hoever is only 17 so how much football do you expect him to get cb normally break in to teams later than a say strikers. as for Curtis Jones having 1 good game and wanting him in the team is a bit silly Klopp see him train and if he thinks his ready he will play more. I would love to see him get a loan move and see how he does over a full season. As we start to get a full squad back to fitness I would like to see a stronger side in the next round of the fa cup with Shaq and minamino and Origi lead the line with Lovren and matip at the back. We need to start winning trophy's all the time I would love the fa cup this season as well.


8.) 15 Jan 2020 01:41:00
Im going to get slated for this but I don't think he's at the maddison/ mount level yet. He could easily end up the best player of the three and maybe the difference IS first team minutes.


9.) 15 Jan 2020 04:26:03
Honestly Jones was good against Everton, and scored a phenomenal goal, but his game has some pretty glaring flaws and ones which will not serve him well in the first team:

- he was very slow on the ball and took too long to release it
- he was quite lax on and off the ball and didn't show enough urgency

These issues can be fixed, but the point is they do need to be fixed before he starts games on a regular basis. Those defects, whilst not huge, are in complete opposition to how our first team plays - Jones needs to be patient and work on his game, if he does the chances he gets will become more frequent.


10.) 15 Jan 2020 04:36:56
This thought needs a bit of context as you're examples prove nothing. Grealish is 24 and has only lately been performing well, maddison is 23 and had been playing championship level before stepping up PL 18 months ago. Foden hasn't really played much more football than Curtis this season while mason mount was used by Chelsea who had a serious lack of other midfield options start of season and he's probably now in need of a break from first team as he's struggling. My point is grealish has been breaking through a villa side playing in championship, maddison was able to break through at championship level and mount was able to play at championship level while foden is not getting any extra time than Curtis.

He's in a team probably the best in the world with a midfield of experienced internationals who have no reason to be dropped. He's only 18, where was grealish maddison mount at 18? They certainly weren't ready to be breaking into our current team while we search for this all important league title. He's getting his games in cup and has made the bench couple of times. What more do you expect? He's 18 why the risk of weakening our team for crucial games just to try to develop 1 player who's got loads of time.


11.) 15 Jan 2020 07:36:21
We seriously expecting an 18/ 19 year with close to no experience to play during this crucial time that will probably test some of our seasoned players mentality to the limit? Come on! The boy will get his chance.


12.) 15 Jan 2020 09:03:11
I haven’t seen much of Curtis to judge but didn’t I read that he scored a blinder the other day with his 10th shot on goal? What about the other 9 goal scoring opportunities? Sounds like Coutinho! Scores a blinder which made us forget about the shots into row Z.

For the record I’m not suggesting Jones doesn’t put a shift in (unlike Couts)


13.) 15 Jan 2020 10:11:28
Relax lads, Curtis will start against Shrewsbury and then help us to the FA Cup Final when he'll score the winner against City. That's just how flippin perfect this season is destined to be.


14.) 15 Jan 2020 09:59:15
Very good reply har red.


15.) 15 Jan 2020 15:55:23
As always, and especially after a match, opinions on here are just like a pendulum; either slate the player viciously or praise him as the next messiah. The fact is that it is simply too soon for Jones to be taking anybody's place in the starting XI. Leaving aside skill, he still has no idea on the tactical side of the game that we employ, despite training with the seniors. And the tactical side is a vital part of our strength, and why we have gotten where we are. I can already imagine it. If Elliott had scored once or twice from the many chances he has had, he would have been elevated to Messi level, despite being only 16.

My take is that Minamino can play any position that Jones plays, far far better. There is no comparison. And Minamino is ahead in the queue, so Jones will have to wait patiently and make do in building up his locker of experience in the U23's, the Cup games and sitting on the bench in case of injury to the seniors.

I'm not skeptical about Jones. Just learnt the hard way to be more realistic and wait and see what happens with the player, after watching Woodburn, Ojo, Kent and Wilson scale the heights (once or twice) and then crash in our system.


 

 

 

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27 Dec 2019 00:30:53
Dont think so mate! We have just signed minamino, who is predominantly a winger although he looks equally dangerous through the middle, seems a bit odd as chiesa would be a squad player .


 

 

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29 Nov 2019 21:16:44
On the evidence provided from his time at the club, also info the Ed's have shared about him, its harsh but wat has he contributed and has he showed fight an desire on the pitch no he hasn't . I want too be wrong big time as I love the player we were signing but that player has evaporated into an average joe, you only have too look at Fabihno too know wat i am on about . Was not trusted at first went away got his game together an BINGO! same with Robertson.


 

 

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29 Nov 2019 15:33:14
Guess what? ill is not good enough I would rather curtis Jones was in the squad, keita is a fraud who performs when he thinks is suitable, we need warriors and he is a tranny sorry its harsh but he is not contributing nowhere near enough .


 

 

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30 Jul 2019 22:41:34
The same echo every day that links us with every tom, dick an harry on the planet, like today we are linked with dembele of Barcelona, yesterday kamono .


 

 

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15 Jul 2019 13:23:51
As if Barcelona will loan him for 2 years with an option too buy for 88million, honestly its laughable .


 

 

 

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15 Feb 2020 09:19:46
So what would be the possible outcome for them, also is it solvable and when is a decision due too be made on them 2.

{Ed002's Note - The outcome for others already charged for similar infractions varies (Nottingham Forest - fine and transfer embargo, Birmingham City - points deduction, Sheffield Wednesday - to be determined, Derby County - to be determined) etc..}


 

 

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14 Feb 2020 21:46:02
Much appreciated ed 02 I didn't realise evertons situation was that precarious.


 

 

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14 Feb 2020 20:56:45
Obvious question who are the other 2 at risk?

{Ed002's Note - Aston Villa and Everton.}


 

 

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10 Feb 2020 23:10:32
I am talking about for liverpool I watched him every week I loved him, yes he scored in final vs Bolton but we should of won that game and we should of expected him too score or win the game, he never scored against united home or away or everton neither did he put in match winning performances against the big teams too contribute too winning leagues as in big games, compare him too another left winger at that time ryan Giggs an there's only one winner he was a match winner in big games for his club . Mcmanaman was class and great too watch but in the end dropped us like a sack of rubbish for nothing .


 

 

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10 Feb 2020 17:21:19
He was brilliant mcmanaman really exciting scored great goals, but was bit of a flat track bully didn't do it in the big games an if he was a lolly ice there would be none of himself left.