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03 May 2021 20:32:06
Ello eds, is andre silva someone we would be looking at, very impressive goal rate in Germany also he is jotas brother which would help if we wanted him .


1.) 03 May 2021 21:18:32
That’s not his brother.


2.) 03 May 2021 22:21:15
Diego Jota does have a brother named Andre Silva, but not the striker you are thinking about. Coincidence that they share the name and both are Portuguese.


3.) 03 May 2021 22:38:33
Sorry guys I didn't realise that 😅, I was thinking we had 2 feet in the door to signing him then .


4.) 04 May 2021 09:38:32
Silva looks to be available for a decent price but I would worry a little looking at his record in Italy and Spain.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has no interest.}


 

 

30 Jan 2021 18:21:27
Apparently we have bid 45million euro for demiral, surely we could get 3 centre backs for that .


1.) 30 Jan 2021 18:34:59
Maybe we are paying over a few years like Jota? More dept on the club though, worry’s me when we are a year or so away from needing a rebuild.


2.) 30 Jan 2021 18:38:32
I call BS. €45m for a defender who has barely played any football in the last two years and spends most of his time warming the bench at Juve?


3.) 30 Jan 2021 18:40:47
Isn't he an injury-prone player? I don't know my Italian football, just scanned through the socials.


4.) 30 Jan 2021 18:44:35
Which 3?


5.) 30 Jan 2021 18:49:22
Fans worry way too much about clubs finances these days. were fans not accountants!


6.) 30 Jan 2021 18:50:40
Nah no way. Ed002 said we were offered him a few weeks back so probably old news from then. We ain’t got 45quid let alone 45M.


7.) 30 Jan 2021 19:05:15
Botman 18 million, kabak 18 million, and change for a loan or a player.


8.) 30 Jan 2021 19:05:57
Botman might even be cheaper than 18 million.


9.) 30 Jan 2021 19:22:02
I’ll be honest Hailstones, the fact that Matips injury doesn’t sound as bad as Klopp made out I can’t see is signing anyone either on loan or permanent mate. Plenty of rumours we must of been linked to 6 different names today and all dismissed on here. All fiction I would think.


10.) 30 Jan 2021 19:33:09
I'm going for Romain Saiss from Wolves. Left out of last squad and only 6 months left on contract so could be a realistic option. I like him as well. Play in defence or midfield. Shrewd signing I'd say.


11.) 30 Jan 2021 19:50:42
Daretodream Matip is a flake way to unreliable we can’t be counting on him!


12.) 30 Jan 2021 20:10:41
Dare to dream. I think we have to really. Matip is good but plays one game and injured. We can't risk it.


13.) 30 Jan 2021 20:30:32
Yes saiss would be nice and another.


14.) 30 Jan 2021 22:40:56
well lately it's matip plays only one good HALF before injury.


 

 

18 Jan 2021 12:26:03
Any one expecting jota to just pop back in and save the day needs to think that he is just coming back from a knee injury and might take time to get up too speed.


1.) 18 Jan 2021 12:58:36
Will still be better than bobby haha.
He could also come back to scoring form in his first game back.


2.) 18 Jan 2021 15:17:26
He will not be back until the second week of February.


3.) 18 Jan 2021 17:59:45
Magico at least Bobby was getting in the positions to shoot, the other two were just as wasteful, but Bobby was trying to make things happen.


4.) 19 Jan 2021 07:53:18
Not doubting Bobby's positional play. but he shooting is dreadful.


5.) 19 Jan 2021 07:55:12
Agree mane and salah were awful though.
Try salah through middle and push bobby or ox to right forward?


6.) 19 Jan 2021 09:01:00
Bobby seems worse at them moment because he has to drop so deep I can’t see why Klopp won’t just play the young lads at the back with fab in front of them to ease the pressure and hendo and Thiago to dictate the play from midfield and feed Bobby salah and mane giving them the extra yard back.


7.) 19 Jan 2021 09:02:24
Has anyone noticed that the positioning is no way near as fluid as before. It used to seem like the forwards all swapped round and popped up in each others position. I think against Man U I saw salah and mane switch once, salah was soo wide on the right all game. Maybe it is just a confidence thing and they are just trying to keep it simple to get back into form.


8.) 21 Jan 2021 00:35:20
We are dropping too deep too early. You could see it against Utd which creates holes all throughout the team which makes it easier to get through us as you can’t press when there’s too much space. The distances to run are too much for anyone.
We are then winning the ball back in our own half and so starting an attack from there.
VVD and Gomez would hold the half way line for as long as they could which then risks leaving too much space in behind but it also compresses the play into the oppositions half meaning the press can be more effective and we win the ball higher.
With Fabs, Hendo and Gini in midfield they are all good ball winners so it was highly effective. It also meant that the FBs starting position was much higher allowing them to get forward more without killing themselves.
Fabs and Hendo at CB don’t have the confidence or pace to hold that line so we get stretched and we don’t have the ball winners in midfield either.
Klopp will see this but I’m not sure what we can do about it with the personnel we have available.


 

 

02 Aug 2020 11:06:48
We are being linked with Kostas tsimikas today and apparently his fee has been lowered, he seems like a great option for the squad if it's a serious link very much like Robertson, Ed's do u think there is any legs in this one?

{Ed002's Note - Kostas Tsimikas (LB) another option for Leicester if Chilwell were to depart but a Work Permit could be an issue in England unless a reasonable fee is paid. Yuto Nagatomo is due to be replaced in the summer so Galatasaray have looked. Third pick for Napoli as a Faouzi Ghoulam replacement but they could end up pushing. Fenerbahce are short a LB and have Hasan Ali Kaldirim out of contract in the summer. Locomotiv Moscow have Maciej Rybus heading for the door this summer and have seemingly given up hope on Mikhail Lysov and have been in contact with Olympiacos over a deal for the summer. Sheffield United and Nice have looked and declared an interest and Nice have discussed terms with his club but have failed to reach any agreement.}


1.) 02 Aug 2020 11:44:22
Thanks for reply ed, obviously he is linked with a lot of clubs who probably want him as a starter so see how that one develops .


2.) 02 Aug 2020 19:37:52
Ed u say permit if reasonable fee paid? Does that mean if u buy a player at such price u don’t need a permit am I taking that the wrong way cheers!

{Ed002's Note - It is a points based system and you need to get points from transfer fees and wages to be eligible. It will again change next year.}


 

 

14 Jul 2020 10:43:57
Hi Ed's we are linked with Leandro cabrera today is this realistic, and if so is he rated at all?

{Ed002's Note - Leandro Cabrera (CB) Real Betis have been discussing a potential loan for the 29 year old Uruguayan journeyman with Espanyol but they prefer a sale.

It would make little sense for Liverpool to be looking at a 29 year old non Home Grown player who is not the desired first choice player Klopp is keen on.}


1.) 14 Jul 2020 11:01:12
Thanks for the reply ed, sorry to ask but who is klopps first choice?

{Ed002's Note - Diego Carlos would be first choice but Liverpool are not able to fund a move at this time.}


2.) 14 Jul 2020 11:22:19
Do u think there will be an alternative too carlos, he looks good but too pricey.

{Ed002's Note - I understand Diego Llorente but there is no money right now.}


3.) 14 Jul 2020 12:00:45
Thanks ed this C.V. is sucking the soul out of football not just in the stadium but also the transfer market . We win the league after 30 years and we are feeding of scraps too stay competitive.

{Ed002's Note - It was unexpected and the loss of revenue did not support the business model used by the club. I would think pretty much all PL clubs will make a loss this season.


4.) 14 Jul 2020 14:30:55
" I would think pretty much all PL clubs will make a loss this season. " And that's the sad reality of it all. Why if no one is bought and/ or sold this summer, the loonies with the "Klopp and FSG out" and "I can't believe we don't have the money" bit should restrain themselves.

{Ed002's Note - PL clubs are not all in the same boat of course. Some will make a loss but still have money to spend, some will make a loss but will have to sell to buy, a couple will make a loss and figure out how to get back in shape FFP wise etc..}


5.) 14 Jul 2020 15:38:38
Chelsea have a lot of players on loan and in current squad that can be sold plus already money rich so they could load up big time. Same story with man city players too sell big dough them 2 will definitely be splashing .


6.) 14 Jul 2020 16:54:06
Ed 002, how do i find your definitive response on why there is no money for Carlos? I understand that the current global economic situation has seriously interfered with the plans of well run businesses who are not a bottomless pit of cash BUT surely if we sell, Carlos can be brought in part ex for Shaq? Shaq's got to be worth 15-20, Grujic the same or more, ditto Wilson.

{Ed002's Note - If LIverpool sell players and the club agree to use that money for transfers, then deduct 25% and there will be a small budget. The finances are not in relation to any one player - I have explained that Liverpool have financial commitments to be met - perhaps search on "commitment" or "payment".}


7.) 14 Jul 2020 18:38:13
I would think Chelsea, United and especially City will be active in the transfer market. The Guardian reported this morning, Pep will be given £150m!


8.) 14 Jul 2020 18:30:07
Ed002, I understand the finances in the present are being impacted pretty severely by everything going on right now, but we haven't really discussed a transfer for Carlos involving deferred payments. Is something like that off the table with Sevilla because they want/ need the cash from a potential Carlos sale?

{Ed002's Note - The club don't want to be building further debt. The CEO has made everything clear as well.}


9.) 14 Jul 2020 21:35:49
Do we have any green shield stamps?


 

 

 

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31 Jul 2021 12:04:35
Who ever in the club thinks we are progressing is majorly kidding themselves, we are again relying on injury prone players and putting lots of pressure on the youngsters to perform at a very high level to keep us on top.
If no signings are made we are again giving our rivals a chance to steal a march on us on the pitch, trying to fit ox up front, and making the front 3 perform miracles up front for a 5th season is again a gamble to avoid Injuries, becoming predictable, and loss of form .


1.) 31 Jul 2021 12:19:26
yea let's go the front 3. they can carry us to a trophy again. along with the rest of the squad we have. given we can't sign anyone as of right now, it's wasted energy getting yourself in a twist about it. perhaps talk a walk and get some fresh air.


2.) 31 Jul 2021 12:26:21
The CV C.V., and the disastrous financial impacts it brought, hit Liverpool just as they were on the cusp of a league title. We all know very well how revenue was slashed, just as increased wages and bonuses were about to kick in for the playing squad too.
We’re probably two or three new quality additions to the squad down because of lost income during this time, but on the plus side we’ve only lost Wijnaldum and kept everyone else, and retained CL football after an injury fraught season.
It’s been like swimming against the tide but, all told, it could have been a lot worse.
I think the club, Klopp’s team and the players have done well in the circumstances.
We were maybe set for another title or two but it’s going to be a real fight to hit those heights again. But we’re still in there swinging, that’s the main thing. Have faith.


3.) 31 Jul 2021 12:33:37
Transfer fever bites hard.
So many people looking to write the season off before a ball is kicked.
Folks who are so consumed by the transfer window that they forget what Klopp has already achieved. Only the next expensive signing interests them.


4.) 31 Jul 2021 12:43:02
Good advice faith. It’s not a front 3 anymore. There are now 4 players competing to play. Plus Elliot will be quality from the bench and ed002 has stated time and again Liverpool are interested in signing another forward player.

During the last 3 or 4 seasons FSG has provided funds to sign players, why will it be different this summer?


5.) 31 Jul 2021 12:44:28
Hahaha I am not angry just being super realistic the truth hurts sometimes but it needs to be said, we aren't moving like a club that wants to win trophies and stay at an elite level .
155 million net spend over past 5 seasons, arsenal in same period 264 million an even Everton 260 million we are continually asking klopp an the players to perform miracles.


6.) 31 Jul 2021 13:05:49
Net spend means naff all, Arsenal and Everton have had a higher net spend but have they won anything?

I bet our wage bill far outstrips those two as well.

The club needs to be sustainable and we don't have resources to drop £100m on someone.

The club have done incredibly well to compete and I trust them to know what they need.

Plus the teams that are spending big amounts, none of those players are guaranteed to be a big success so let's see how the window ends before we lose our minds.


7.) 31 Jul 2021 13:33:43
When you are on top you make every effort to stay there, its not about shiny new toys or flexing our money for the sake of it, the team actually needs to be given a fresh jolt of quality in midfield and up front .
I will trust the defence with great caution as if fit is world class but 2 are coming off serious injuries, matip won't play 5 to 10 games in a row, konate we don't know.
I cautiously have faith .


8.) 31 Jul 2021 13:36:42
I didn’t realise the league went to the team with the highest net spend.
Spending all that money hasn’t really worked for either Arsenal or Everton has it so your theory is flawed Hailstones.
Need to stop being so negative and be a little patient. I’m sure the club has targets but there are a few to move on also. I’m sure they’re working hard to free up some money as well as spend it. It’s the same on here every transfer window.


9.) 31 Jul 2021 13:39:05
ffs get a grip hailstones.
Sometimes not adding to the squad strengthens it.
The current players all understand what Klopp wants them to do as a team.
Bring in too many new players and that cohesion goes.

At least give the lads a chance before you write them off.


10.) 31 Jul 2021 13:46:54
Can we at least wait until the end of the transfer window to complain about the club not moving forward and being competitive?


11.) 31 Jul 2021 13:55:35
"it's the truth"? If anything, it's your truth and not everybody else's. We've won titles with this group of so-called "overachievers", and I'm hoping it will continue. Its been the most successful series of years that we've had in 30 years. Arsenal and Everton haven't spent 200 million on two new stands and a new training complex. Or doesn't that count as spending on the team and club? Is it paid for in peanuts or marbles or something? Factor that in and suddenly we become the third highest spenders in the league. And we already have the second highest wage payroll in the league. But so many of you insist on painting the club as some kind of year round scrooges, just because you can't get your jollies from seeing new players come in and older players being shoved out.


12.) 31 Jul 2021 14:10:34
He is right, we won't be walking to the title but i think we would still be putting an incredible fight. Also we are in champions league and honestly I fancy us lot winning the CL over the league.
Klopp has to seriously consider the FA cup too.


13.) 31 Jul 2021 14:13:58
Hailstones how many times have Arsenal finished above us in last 5 years? There is far too much effort worrying about transfers rather than being a good coach and improving your players.


14.) 31 Jul 2021 15:09:43
I love the team and things I love I have to be honest about, I have said this in previous transfer windows an in general I don't want glitzy signings for mega bucks, but quality team players who make us stronger this is needed now .


15.) 31 Jul 2021 15:17:49
Forget Arsenal etc we have to concentrate on ourselves and to some extent City. We are only one top player away from having a title winning squad and there is a month left in the window. Klopp knows better than anyone on this site what is needed to win the title. I trust the powers that be to bring in one or two more quality additions.


16.) 31 Jul 2021 17:32:26
Spot on, ArAy1969. Who wants to talk about “hidden investments” like the ones you mentioned? Cos a lot of fans know that BUT they would rather bash FSG for not investing where they want cos they can’t moan about the other big investments FSG actually have made. LFC are worth 2.2bn for a reason BUT who cares, right?

Hailstones, your negativity is as often, misplaced and using Arsenal as some kind of yardstick is just asinine. Arsenal have been pouring money down the toilet for over 5 years now and have gone from a CL team to becoming the European equivalent of Non League football. Signing Pepe for 72m, Aubameyang, Willian and Luiz on stupid wages, signing Saliba for 27m who nobody has ever seen play for them, etc. was good business to you? Your comparison is not even worth considering.

How about you put the constant negativity to one side for once and let things play out and then, make a judgement at that time instead of always moaning about things that literally did not or have not happened yet like you thinking people think we are progressing, which NOBODY on here or at the club have ever said.


17.) 31 Jul 2021 20:16:36
I’m with Markp08 on this, I think we’re one top drawer midfielder away from being poddible title winners, so we’re not that far away, my only concern is that we’re looking at forwards when we’re probably ok on that front.


18.) 31 Jul 2021 21:10:13
Man City also have a higher net spend than us. How many times have they finished above us the last 10 years? Money spent all depends on what quality it’s spent on. Everton and Arsenal have spent more but they’ve wasted it due to the dire straights they were already in. Let’s be honest if we could spend money then we would love it as fans because Klopp would strengthen us with quality.


19.) 01 Aug 2021 01:05:58
I'm scared to ask what a "poddible" title winner is.


20.) 01 Aug 2021 01:19:30
FSG have been great owners, they have rebuilt the stadium and I am so happy that Anfield will be our home for the next 100 years and not some mickey mouse new stadium with no history, they have rebuilt the training facilities, rebuilt the squad, hired one of the best managers in the world and brought us success. I see it as a compliment that the 2 Manchester clubs and Chelsea have to spend hundred of millions to be competitive with us while we spend modestly . If you are not happy with how we are being run please look back to the not so distance past with Gillet and Hicks, Roy Hodgson and signings such as Lambert, so happy those days are well and truely behind us.


21.) 01 Aug 2021 02:46:21
what's miraculous about Klopp, who was one the best player-developing managers in world football, setting up the club that turned VVD, Alliosn, Salah, Mane, Bobby, Fab, TAA, Robbo etc etc etc into a world class squad?

Surely we should be assessed on outcome under the context right? Why criticize the net spend, when we have one multiple trophies that way whilst the lads and management have done their jobs? we have a stacked squad as it is, so you're stress about not buying is misplaced because we cna't even add the quality players you're probably thinking of anyways until we make space in the squad through sales.


22.) 01 Aug 2021 10:42:35
Spot on, Faith. Seems like just someone posting negativity without even thinking thru the very topic on which the negativity or whinge is based on.


 

 

06 Jul 2021 20:27:30
One player that could be perfect for us is mikel oyarzabal, can play any forward position and in midfield if needed too . I don't know how expensive or available he would be but is very similar too firmino when playing centrally and his versatility is something klopp would love .

{Ed002's Note - There is interest from elsewhere but not Liverpool.}


1.) 06 Jul 2021 21:23:15
He just missed a sitter hailstones. You're right, he is very similar to Firmino. 😉😁.


2.) 06 Jul 2021 21:28:26
Wish I wouldn't of spoke he missed 2 sitters and was subbed .


3.) 06 Jul 2021 21:56:11
Proper cursed him didn't I rover 🤦.


4.) 06 Jul 2021 22:09:50
I think Danny Olmo has been really impressive. Never stops running and think he’s pretty good on the ball as well. Reminds me a little of Henderson.


5.) 07 Jul 2021 10:23:08
Hail, you picked one of the poorest Spain players in the game n think he would be good for us to replace a true baller in Bobbie? Now that may be your opinion BUT that is a slap in the face to the Bobbie Dazzler being compared to a player who is NOWHERE near his equal in any way, IMO. Bobbie may not be scoring as much as he needs to BUT let's not start comparing him to scrubs like this fellow esp based on his perf. at the Euros.

Even worse, There are the likes of Pedri and Olmo who have outplayed him by a mile and you pick him and say he would be great for us? Astounding opinion, mate.


 

 

31 May 2021 12:49:36
I am hearing klopp is happy with midfield and we won't be replacing gini insisting the players we have are enough, I hope we aren't just going to renew contracts players like salah, kelleher, trent, vvd, fab, Allison etc while they all are vital to tie down the club still need new quality players to spark a fresh challenge .


1.) 31 May 2021 13:41:49
We have plenty of midfielders but none of them will stay fit all season and some of them aren’t good enough.


2.) 31 May 2021 13:50:07
Surprised at that. I rate Jones and expect him to kick on next season, but I think we’re missing a trick by not going for Bissouma or someone of that ilk.

Of course, the money simply may not be there.


3.) 31 May 2021 13:54:41
Thiago, Hendo and Fab is a quality midfield.
But then having Milner, ox, keita and Jones as back ups, there is a big drop off in quality.
We should move keita on and bring in a CM that is of good quality and is consistently available.

Bringing in let’s say Neuhaus or Bissouma, we’d be getting a player that is young but already very good and have good injury records. They’d help to bridge the gap in quality too.
Think I’d go for Neuhaus just because of Bissouma and the AFCON.


4.) 31 May 2021 14:05:07
Exactly mark08, it would be making same mistake we made with defence season just gone, relying on unreliable players even the defence I am wary of being injury prone especially after some serious injuries, I hope we have learnt from past mistakes .


5.) 31 May 2021 14:49:40
It always makes sense to say you're not buying when you want to buy. And to say you're not selling when you want to sell. Ask any competent businessman and he'll tell you the same thing.


6.) 31 May 2021 15:00:58
Spot on, ArAy1969. I don't know why people are concerned about what Klopp said. It literally means nothing. We are in for midfielders and we all know that. Klopp does not talk about transfers even tho, he knows he needs players. He never spoke about needing a midfielder when we all know he wanted Thiago. Never spoke about needing a CB whereas we all knew Konate was more or less nailed on. Many did not know we were in for Jota yet here he is.

People need to calm down and let the summer play out and let us see what happens. No need getting over-excited over some empty quotes made by managers regarding transfers.


7.) 31 May 2021 15:09:58
Don't believe that, I expect several midfield departures with a first team level player coming in. What is the point of having Shaq, Ox Keita, Milner, Grujic etc, when Klopp is clearly reluctant to pick them.
If those fringe players could not get a game last season, there is no hope for them this season.


8.) 31 May 2021 15:13:46
It would be a huge error on our part if we don’t manage to move on some of the fringe/ injury prone players in the squad and not bring in 2-3 fresh faces in midfield and up top. In midfield, we need to move on the likes of Keita, grujic and Wilson. Wiji has already gone, Milner and ox are both solid players, but ox is always injured and Milner is at the end of his career and can’t be relied on to play week in week out. I’d personally move one of them on, and bring in two midfielders. Hendo, Thiago and fab is a very solid starting midfield but I don’t see it lasting the majority of a season due to injuries and the supporting cast isn’t good enough so it needs to be addressed if people seriously think we will get anywhere close to challenging next season

Up top, Which I thought was our biggest issue during the season, purely because for 90% of the season, firmino, mane and salah were all fit and playing and they massively underperformed as a group. At least in other areas of the pitch, there were injuries that affected their ability to perform the way they had done in the past. Salah was the only one that pulled his weight up front, and even then, he could have also been better. Jota is class but the verdict is still out on him being dependable enough to be fit for a full season, the early signs suggest not. Mane and firmino have fast become shadows of their previous selves, of course that could change next season but I wouldn’t depend on it and I really doubt that will be the case for firmino specifically, I just think it’s been way longer than just one season with him. With shaq and origi hopefully being moved on finally, minamino either going out on loan or being moved on and possibly one of mane and firmino being sold, I would think we need at least one top forward coming in.


9.) 31 May 2021 15:30:40
Fab, Thiago and Hendo are all quality but between the 3 they missed 41 league games last season. Add to that the back up midfield is ox and Naby who missed 51 league games between them last season.


10.) 31 May 2021 16:04:14
Ed’s do you think a Midfielder will arrive this summer please?

{Ed002's Note - Yes I would think so.}


11.) 31 May 2021 18:46:42
Cheers Ed, enjoy the weather ☀️.


12.) 31 May 2021 22:40:45
The only place we need to fill is a back up to Fabinho. He’s the only natural DM we have in the squad and we’ve seen this season what happens when he’s not there.
We saw it with City the season before when they tried to play Fernandinho at the back and they’ve just lost a CL final because they lined up without a natural DM in the team.
The importance of that position cannot be understated in your ability to control a game. Bissouma would be great if we could do it but whoever we sign would have to be happy with a place on the bench.


 

 

21 May 2021 20:08:18
Does anyone rate zambo Anguissa of fulham?, I have been impressed by his performances, he is a unit but mobile can tackle pass well and dribble whilst contributing to attack and defence very much in the yves bissouma mold . The vibe I am getting is bissouma May go to arsenal, if that's the case anguissa might be just as effective .


1.) 21 May 2021 20:40:35
We do like a relegated player and he’s been one of their best players.


2.) 21 May 2021 20:41:48
There’s a couple at Fulham that could be good as squad players

Lookman - raw but could be a great player
Bryan - decent LB
Anguissa - looks to have the potential to be a class CM
Anderson - Great CB
Adaraybiyo (spelling) - young and potential to be good.


3.) 21 May 2021 22:01:42
Thought Anguissa looke decent all season. Anderson and Lookman too.


4.) 21 May 2021 21:31:50
For me anguissa easily there best player and most consistent performer.


5.) 22 May 2021 06:44:46
I haven’t watched any football that isn’t Liverpool this year to be honest. But I remember ed02 said he was a big talent when Fulham signed him 3 years ago.


6.) 22 May 2021 08:45:26
Lookman isn't a Fulham player, he's on loan.


7.) 22 May 2021 11:02:19
Nobody said lookman was a Fulham player hjikle just commenting that he could be a good player.


8.) 22 May 2021 14:26:46
Lookman for me, and that is it.


 

 

11 May 2021 13:02:34
I can't believe I am hearing in the media that we might sell nat Phillips while his stock is high, he is essential for a squad he could be played in games when the squad needs to be rotated or against physical teams, with no guarantees gomez an vvd will come back the same players we have to learn from past mistakes e. g prepare for the worst if we serious about being a winning team again .


1.) 11 May 2021 14:21:49
What media?


2.) 11 May 2021 14:50:23
Nevermind what’s best for Nat and his career?

Us buying Konate or some other CB will bring us to 4 top quality CBS in the squad. The odds of losing 3 senior cbs for an entire season again are limited are best.

Keeping a bit part player like Phillips would not be a signal of intent that we wish to seriously challenge.

He’s done a cracking job, if he wants to leave or we can make a pretty penny from his sale, good luck to him.


3.) 11 May 2021 15:05:52
You don't know our owners then? Haha.


4.) 11 May 2021 15:07:45
I just don’t think he fits Klopp styles of play hence why he gave Williams the shot before him. Also the lack of pace with a high line is easy to catch out, goals like the one in Madrid are impossible for him to defend if executed correctly to no fault of his own really.
That being said I think he’s done really well and he deserves to be a starter at another premier league club, could see Newcastle being a good destination for him. For his own career surely he would want to be first choice somewhere rather than 4th/ 5th at Liverpool?


5.) 11 May 2021 15:22:38
Dont you know Shaq. he should be happy to stay and be 5th choice and get 10 minutes every couple of months.


6.) 11 May 2021 15:36:10
If and when VVD and Gomez come back to previous levels (probably around mid-season in my opinion) and Konate is actually bought, then I see no reason for the club to keep holding Philips back from a fruitful career. Makes no sense whatsoever with Kabak in the shadows, and Koumetio, Williams and Van den Berg in the pipeline. And there's no real indication that even Matip will be sold. Klopp seems to like the idea of fulfilling his contracts, so it's not a stretch that he likes his players to do the same, and then walk off on frees. Could well happen with Matip. What are we going to do with 6 senior CBs on the books?

On a side note, I'm not convinced that Konate will join. We've all seen this song and dance before when we were so sure Werner would join. It didn't happen because the money was not there. Well, there's even less money this summer and more so the next because next year's accounts will show what this year was in terms of level of disaster. Sure, FSG can always borrow funds from a variety of sources, but I'm not convinced they'll want to muddy up their accounts already full of red.


7.) 11 May 2021 15:50:41
Wgen you sell players that have character you are doing it wrong. He is an old school no non sense defender. Those players in this day and age are a rarity. Hold on to him as he could be a potential future captain for us.
I don't want konate or other luxury defenders. I want one philips anyday. Players like philips when backed bring you league titles. This is what is in all that is wrong with football.
Fans only want luxury players. Tell you what if nat plays a big role in next 4 games and gets us to a CL spot he starts for me alongside vvd next season and if he don't you can very well understand we are a club who doesn't care and will buy our success like the citys and psgs.


8.) 11 May 2021 16:53:34
How much do you think we would get for Phillips? £5m maybe.


9.) 11 May 2021 17:08:12
If it was "in the media" then it must be correct because they're never wrong, are they? Even when we're supposedly signing 5-10 different players every week!


10.) 11 May 2021 17:28:12
Akira that is absolutely tosh mate. There’s plenty of “no nonsense defenders” lurking in the conference league. It’s a good quality to have but in our team more is required.

How many titles did we win with carragher at the helm?


11.) 11 May 2021 17:46:54
I absolutely agree Akira! He’s good. And when he has a better partner next to him he will be better. Throw money at another position that needs it - someone (else) who can stick the ball in the net.


12.) 11 May 2021 18:00:48
Notice I said using him in rotation in the right games eg against physical opponents with lack of pace but physical and it will help not playing him in a high line which is like asking a fish to run the 100m.
Why can't klopp have different tactics? He doesn't always have too play a high line and it shows flexibility in tactics .


13.) 11 May 2021 18:18:32
Nat is better than konate. that's all.
Konate hasn't even played any real spell of football since the 18/ 19 season. Why are fans so sweating on him. Do you remember the last player we got from leipzig? Yea he turned out great didn't he.
Id understand if we were getting someone solid in, but konate is a bigger risk than phillips imho.


14.) 11 May 2021 19:43:19
And how much top flight has Nat played since 18/ 19?

Are you seriously suggesting we should avoid Konate because Keita has bombed? By that logic, Salah and Allison have been incredible so we should buy Chris Smalling.

Phillips Is a 4th choice defender, nothing more.

You’re the same person who made the ludicrous statement it was perhaps time to cash in on VVD.


 

 

 

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03 Aug 2021 19:33:08
This is definitely a smokescreen for mbappe!


 

 

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23 Jul 2021 21:33:08
Maybe its too early for Harvey elliot an some other youngsters too, the pressure to perform is insane, especially when our competitors have world class talent in the back up options .


 

 

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10 Jul 2021 10:25:25
Matip opened a pack of quavers and his wife screamed " Joel you cannibal "!


 

 

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06 Jul 2021 17:53:14
Can't believe koopermeiner has not been looked at he is a class talent with a captains mentality.
Are we not learning lessons sanches missed nearly a 100 days due to injury last season .


 

 

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13 Jun 2021 12:54:55
He would be a great signing, quality technically passing amazing and has a good work ethic pressing an tackling, very shrewd signing if it happens .


 

 

 

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03 Aug 2021 18:14:09
Thats one thing I didn't know thanks Ed.

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03 Aug 2021 18:14:09
Thats one thing I didn't know thanks Ed.


 

 

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03 Aug 2021 10:34:17
I actually think kaide Gordon looks like he could come on in last 20 mins of a Premier league game and cause problems and he will fill out and get stronger over the coming seasons he is going to be a player .


 

 

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02 Aug 2021 19:59:29
If he steps up a level in terms of club and league he will have the same problem in regards to starting as most teams have big quality squads they rotate .


 

 

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01 Aug 2021 14:37:58
I said the same thing the other day and ed 25 was buzzing off me for the mere mention thanks Ed Hahaha, I agree players coming in are aware klopp has go to men and game time for new players might b a problem . Like u mention though it would be nice for our manager to mix things up whether it be formation or different types of players. As the whole world an dog know how we play.