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18 Jan 2021 12:26:03
Any one expecting jota to just pop back in and save the day needs to think that he is just coming back from a knee injury and might take time to get up too speed.


1.) 18 Jan 2021 12:58:36
Will still be better than bobby haha.
He could also come back to scoring form in his first game back.


2.) 18 Jan 2021 15:17:26
He will not be back until the second week of February.


3.) 18 Jan 2021 17:59:45
Magico at least Bobby was getting in the positions to shoot, the other two were just as wasteful, but Bobby was trying to make things happen.


4.) 19 Jan 2021 07:53:18
Not doubting Bobby's positional play. but he shooting is dreadful.


5.) 19 Jan 2021 07:55:12
Agree mane and salah were awful though.
Try salah through middle and push bobby or ox to right forward?


6.) 19 Jan 2021 09:01:00
Bobby seems worse at them moment because he has to drop so deep I can’t see why Klopp won’t just play the young lads at the back with fab in front of them to ease the pressure and hendo and Thiago to dictate the play from midfield and feed Bobby salah and mane giving them the extra yard back.


7.) 19 Jan 2021 09:02:24
Has anyone noticed that the positioning is no way near as fluid as before. It used to seem like the forwards all swapped round and popped up in each others position. I think against Man U I saw salah and mane switch once, salah was soo wide on the right all game. Maybe it is just a confidence thing and they are just trying to keep it simple to get back into form.


8.) 21 Jan 2021 00:35:20
We are dropping too deep too early. You could see it against Utd which creates holes all throughout the team which makes it easier to get through us as you can’t press when there’s too much space. The distances to run are too much for anyone.
We are then winning the ball back in our own half and so starting an attack from there.
VVD and Gomez would hold the half way line for as long as they could which then risks leaving too much space in behind but it also compresses the play into the oppositions half meaning the press can be more effective and we win the ball higher.
With Fabs, Hendo and Gini in midfield they are all good ball winners so it was highly effective. It also meant that the FBs starting position was much higher allowing them to get forward more without killing themselves.
Fabs and Hendo at CB don’t have the confidence or pace to hold that line so we get stretched and we don’t have the ball winners in midfield either.
Klopp will see this but I’m not sure what we can do about it with the personnel we have available.


 

 

02 Aug 2020 11:06:48
We are being linked with Kostas tsimikas today and apparently his fee has been lowered, he seems like a great option for the squad if it's a serious link very much like Robertson, Ed's do u think there is any legs in this one?

{Ed002's Note - Kostas Tsimikas (LB) another option for Leicester if Chilwell were to depart but a Work Permit could be an issue in England unless a reasonable fee is paid. Yuto Nagatomo is due to be replaced in the summer so Galatasaray have looked. Third pick for Napoli as a Faouzi Ghoulam replacement but they could end up pushing. Fenerbahce are short a LB and have Hasan Ali Kaldirim out of contract in the summer. Locomotiv Moscow have Maciej Rybus heading for the door this summer and have seemingly given up hope on Mikhail Lysov and have been in contact with Olympiacos over a deal for the summer. Sheffield United and Nice have looked and declared an interest and Nice have discussed terms with his club but have failed to reach any agreement.}


1.) 02 Aug 2020 11:44:22
Thanks for reply ed, obviously he is linked with a lot of clubs who probably want him as a starter so see how that one develops .


2.) 02 Aug 2020 19:37:52
Ed u say permit if reasonable fee paid? Does that mean if u buy a player at such price u don’t need a permit am I taking that the wrong way cheers!

{Ed002's Note - It is a points based system and you need to get points from transfer fees and wages to be eligible. It will again change next year.}


 

 

14 Jul 2020 10:43:57
Hi Ed's we are linked with Leandro cabrera today is this realistic, and if so is he rated at all?

{Ed002's Note - Leandro Cabrera (CB) Real Betis have been discussing a potential loan for the 29 year old Uruguayan journeyman with Espanyol but they prefer a sale.

It would make little sense for Liverpool to be looking at a 29 year old non Home Grown player who is not the desired first choice player Klopp is keen on.}


1.) 14 Jul 2020 11:01:12
Thanks for the reply ed, sorry to ask but who is klopps first choice?

{Ed002's Note - Diego Carlos would be first choice but Liverpool are not able to fund a move at this time.}


2.) 14 Jul 2020 11:22:19
Do u think there will be an alternative too carlos, he looks good but too pricey.

{Ed002's Note - I understand Diego Llorente but there is no money right now.}


3.) 14 Jul 2020 12:00:45
Thanks ed this C.V. is sucking the soul out of football not just in the stadium but also the transfer market . We win the league after 30 years and we are feeding of scraps too stay competitive.

{Ed002's Note - It was unexpected and the loss of revenue did not support the business model used by the club. I would think pretty much all PL clubs will make a loss this season.


4.) 14 Jul 2020 14:30:55
" I would think pretty much all PL clubs will make a loss this season. " And that's the sad reality of it all. Why if no one is bought and/ or sold this summer, the loonies with the "Klopp and FSG out" and "I can't believe we don't have the money" bit should restrain themselves.

{Ed002's Note - PL clubs are not all in the same boat of course. Some will make a loss but still have money to spend, some will make a loss but will have to sell to buy, a couple will make a loss and figure out how to get back in shape FFP wise etc..}


5.) 14 Jul 2020 15:38:38
Chelsea have a lot of players on loan and in current squad that can be sold plus already money rich so they could load up big time. Same story with man city players too sell big dough them 2 will definitely be splashing .


6.) 14 Jul 2020 16:54:06
Ed 002, how do i find your definitive response on why there is no money for Carlos? I understand that the current global economic situation has seriously interfered with the plans of well run businesses who are not a bottomless pit of cash BUT surely if we sell, Carlos can be brought in part ex for Shaq? Shaq's got to be worth 15-20, Grujic the same or more, ditto Wilson.

{Ed002's Note - If LIverpool sell players and the club agree to use that money for transfers, then deduct 25% and there will be a small budget. The finances are not in relation to any one player - I have explained that Liverpool have financial commitments to be met - perhaps search on "commitment" or "payment".}


7.) 14 Jul 2020 18:38:13
I would think Chelsea, United and especially City will be active in the transfer market. The Guardian reported this morning, Pep will be given £150m!


8.) 14 Jul 2020 18:30:07
Ed002, I understand the finances in the present are being impacted pretty severely by everything going on right now, but we haven't really discussed a transfer for Carlos involving deferred payments. Is something like that off the table with Sevilla because they want/ need the cash from a potential Carlos sale?

{Ed002's Note - The club don't want to be building further debt. The CEO has made everything clear as well.}


9.) 14 Jul 2020 21:35:49
Do we have any green shield stamps?


 

 

18 Jun 2020 07:34:56
Could there be any truth in keita possibly leaving I have heard ac milan are interested or a return too Germany?

{Ed002's Note - It seems rather speculative based on Rangnick taking over as coach, but he has been a disaster at Liverpool. The Italian government could block a move based on his conviction and I don't see how Milan could easily pay for him. Regardless, if there were a good offer for Keita I would expect Liverpool to seriously consider it as the return on their investment has been dreadful. I am also told he has stood out in the recent "pre-season".}


1.) 18 Jun 2020 09:41:57
Stood out in a good or bad way ed?

{Ed002's Note - A good way.}


2.) 18 Jun 2020 11:12:22
Some years ago, Voronin stood out in "pre-season"


3.) 18 Jun 2020 11:12:44
I'd love this fella to come good. There's a regular starting place for him in our midfield I reckon depending on the opposition e. g. one of those games where we want a more attacking shape - he just needs to stay fit. Ultimately he could replace Hendo, surprised to see it was his 30th birthday yesterday!


4.) 18 Jun 2020 13:13:13
Takumi and Keita to surprise alot. no fans. freedom to express.


5.) 18 Jun 2020 13:23:42
I'm assuming Keita is on a 4 or 5 year contract. So basically the first half (or almost the first half) of the contract has been a failure from a footballing point of view for the club. The return on investment the club was expecting has been nowhere what the club planned on. Yes he shows glimpses of talent from time to time, but then so do one season wonders, and we've all seen plenty of those. If an offer close to our purchase price comes in, I would look at it seriously. And re-invest in another player showing the promise Keita showed but didn't deliver.

I don't see Keita as a successor to Henderson at all. Keita has nowhere the physicality to be able to carry out the role Hendo carries out for us. And judging from the various stories and events that have occured since I first heard of him as a target, I see him as somewhat of a lightweight, both physically and mentally. Of course he is still a talented footballer, but being the linchpin of our midfield is probably a step too far up for him.


6.) 18 Jun 2020 14:14:36
Good aul naby!


7.) 18 Jun 2020 15:17:54
Voronin was a free transfer. His goal against Toulouse set Liverpool up to the Group stage of CL - that goal paid for everything (including his beach holiday! ) . Keita is a 52m bad investment but hopefully, he will come good.


8.) 18 Jun 2020 18:43:35
How can you call Kieta a “bad investment “ been ravage by injuries but when he has played he has looked like he could do well for us with a good run in the team. If the club decides to sell him I think they would recoup the transfer fee. Unbelievable statement that mate.


9.) 18 Jun 2020 18:50:02
I was all for moving him on but he might just get another under the current circumstances.
There are glimpses of a good player on occasions, when he's fit but he needs to stay fit and get a run of games to see if he is the player we hoped he would be.


10.) 18 Jun 2020 19:17:58
Scouse John L8. But why is what I wrote "an unbelievable statement"? Which part of it is unbelievable? Do you think the club is happy having paid for a player a year in advance before he joins and then seeing almost 2 years of non-performance from him? And there are other issues with him, but my post was not about slating Keita at all, and citing those issues would appear to be exactly that, slating.

Joe Gomez went out for a year and nobody said a word. Ox was out for a year and nobody said a word. And they both contribute far more than Keita does. So we're not exactly heartless monsters who don't understand the meaning and consequences of the word "injury". I supported Sturridge for as long as I could but once it became apparent that two years of injuries and not being available to play meant that he too should be moved on.


11.) 18 Jun 2020 19:30:28
I don't think keita has the desire to stamp his authority on the team, his value has probably decreased also .


12.) 18 Jun 2020 20:16:06
You are deluded to think Liverpool would recoup their fee.


13.) 19 Jun 2020 00:43:23
Behave John. Lightweight, frightened of the big occasion and looks like a headless chicken at times. Unfortunately, some players just do not adjust. I would love to play against him as an opposition player.


14.) 19 Jun 2020 05:13:45
First time posting on here. I don't get all the slate about naby.
Fair play he's riddled with injury at 52m an you want your moneys worth but everytime i see him play a lot of players back off him because its near impossible to press him with close control.

The midfield balance is not quite up to scratch to accommodate midfielders like him. Maybe if he had a bit more weight on him people would be comparing him to yaya or something lol.


15.) 19 Jun 2020 06:43:31
I think Keita will end up being a success and prove all of you ‘supporters’ wrong.


 

 

16 Apr 2020 16:38:53
I have heard we are after brozovic, is this realistic?

{Ed002's Note - Marcelo Brozovic (DM) would be a like for like replacement for Fabinho. It would be difficult to see how he would get a game at Liverpool and he is certainly not on the list of players that Inter Milan are looking to sell.}


1.) 16 Apr 2020 17:52:23
Ok thanks ed I seen click bait before saying we in talks too sign, from the site I seen it on I knew it would be garbage but had too check it out, what about tete from shakhtar is he highly rated an possibly on the move.

{Ed002's Note - Tete? Liverpool has no interest in him - where are you getting all of this from?}


2.) 16 Apr 2020 18:45:39
Various sites online ed, I don't believe we are signing someone til they wearing the shirt, but I suppose I was asking too see if there is any interest.

{Ed002's Note - I am astonished people think Liverpool are looking to add Tete. But a nice cheap Salah replacement I guess.}


3.) 16 Apr 2020 18:47:43
It's on metro and Yahoo an others just thought I would get confirmation that its crap.

{Ed002's Note - Welcome Tete then.}


4.) 16 Apr 2020 22:57:27
If people stopped reading these stories perhaps there would be less of them.


5.) 17 Apr 2020 12:38:04
Then why are we on a site called liverpool transfer rumours, because of speculation and it begs a question "is any part of it true "


 

 

 

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23 Jan 2021 13:26:48
Yes we have had a great phase in our history,
BUT are we not going to learn from our mistakes in past failures to not strengthen when we have been nearly winning leagues or have won stuff and messed up bad in the transfer market .
Now we have won the champions league and premier league and our squad has developed to one if its strongest the owners have not got the desire or money to keep us at the top then it's a problem and I would rather they sell us too someone who we can be a priority too and not playin second fiddle to the boston red sox .


1.) 23 Jan 2021 13:58:06
These posts are getting a bit embarrassing now TBH. Yes, we've been poor for a few weeks but that's almost entirely down to our play being affected by having our first choice defense wiped out and not down to the owners being 'sensible' with funds. We signed £90m worth of players in the summer for god's sake.

There are many example of clubs being sold to wealthy owners and then going much more backwards than we have - be careful what you wish for, we were nearly there not that long ago.

I'm not saying FSG are completely beyond criticism - no-one is - but there's a serious lack of perspective being shown here.


2.) 23 Jan 2021 14:10:13
Bang on JR!


3.) 23 Jan 2021 16:32:41
Yes but the fact remains we are desperate for a defender to the point were its effecting the performance of the team and was needed in the first place when lovren left .


4.) 23 Jan 2021 16:54:19
My sentiments exactly, JR. So OP, when did the owners lack the desire to spend money and compete? Was it before or after they took in some debt just to give BR 330m or Klopp 450m (and counting) spend during their tenure? Spent over over 250m since the summer of 2018 yet the owners are not spending enuff or lack the desire to make us competitive? The lack of perspective is deafening. Real Madrid couldn’t even afford Van Der Beek at 40m cos of CV so do they lack ambition too?

I am happy with the way we are being run as we spend within our means esp under CV restrictions, and if people are not happy about it despite how well it has worked, they should forma consortium, stump up the cash and make FSG an offer they cannot refuse and be dine with it.


 

 

22 Jan 2021 23:35:30
Right Jurgen hailstones suggests curtis jones should be getting a run in this team but not in midfield but in the front 3 or in the 10 as attacking as possible.
No playing him in this orthodox midfield role, he should be drilled to commit defenders drive us forward an the kid has a cracking long shot on him also . Emile smith Rowe looks a great player for arsenal even a game changer I believe curtis jones can do a similar if not better job for us .


 

 

22 Jan 2021 11:28:18
Let's face facts our squad has finally been exposed .
City, united, tottenham, maybe Leicester an as bad as they have been chelsea have stronger quality squads than ours .
We have relied way too much on trent / robbo and the front 3 to the point were the bench is not trusted, even the way we play has become stagnant and predictable.
Bobby has been off form for 18 months but the other 2 bailed him out usually, but now them 2 have hit a brick wall .
The hard thing about this is we are screwed as the owners are not built to support a team financially who wants to be serial winners and we have stood still in the league without a fresh spark in the squad.


1.) 22 Jan 2021 11:37:39
Oh you are so positive!


2.) 22 Jan 2021 11:43:47
"we have stood still in the league without a fresh spark in the squad. "

Thiago? Jota? They were only £65m between them in the middle of a C.V., like.


3.) 22 Jan 2021 11:53:49
Sack Klopp, get Hailstones in I say 👍.


4.) 22 Jan 2021 11:48:53
What a load of rubbish. Bad run of form and all of a sudden Leicester have a better squad than us. Give your head a wobble. Our 2 main centre backs got injured for the season. Meaning moving midfielders back. Thiago injured from an awful tackle so never got a chance to gel. Jota who by the way we bought to support the front 3 got injured when he was on fire. This bad run of form is the result of 3 seasons of full pelter right to the end and unfortunate lengthy injuries. No chance to rest robbo with kostas injured basically since he signed. Rest trent for neco and fans like you tear him apart for one bad game. If our squad are so average then klopp must be god to get them to win the league and the champions league. C.V. has hampered us financially otherwise I'm sure we would have purchased a centre back. We are champions and now every team raises their game against us and sticks 11 men behind the ball. Yes we should be able to find a way through and we did all last season but every team goes through a bad patch and your post is just embarrassing.


5.) 22 Jan 2021 11:59:02
There are stronger squads u agree. But our first 11 is of the highest quality. Unfortunately we can't use our first 11 for the foreseeable. I'd love super rich owners who want to spend 300m on players and wages, who wouldn't l? But that's not our lot so we make do and still win major trophies.


6.) 22 Jan 2021 11:59:43
Yes but we need money spending now, lovely that jota and thiago signed but past 3 seasons only them, taki and Harvey elliot have come to the club . I would love to be positive but don't continually blow smoke up the teams ass when they need a rocket up there instead .


7.) 22 Jan 2021 12:23:35
Yes our main centre backs got injured but that doesn’t excuse the lack of creativity and goals scored. We are toothless up front, Trent is having a shocker, wijnaldum isn’t doing enough (why would he, he’s off soon anyway), and then the games that klopp had Henderson playing at centre back when we have capable youngsters that can fill in beggars belief. By having Henderson playing at the back means we lose a lot of the attacking impetus. To be honest, the title race is done because I can’t see us getting out of this rut, unless city, Spurs, Leicester and utd suddenly have almighty blips. As for top four, we will struggle to get if we don’t sort it out quick. Losing is team like Burnley at home is an absolute embarrassment.

{Ed001's Note - do you remember Burnley's form at the start of the season? And what caused that? Oh yes, their two centre-backs were out injured. Once they came back, their form and performance level improved gradually. It does make a huge difference, no point ignoring it.}


8.) 22 Jan 2021 13:32:35
That is true but on the flip side Leicester have had injuries at the back as well. They also have to sell a main player each year but seem recently to replace them with even better players. I understand missing 2 cb's is a blow but we are talking about not being able to beat poor sides like Fulham, WBA, Newcastle, Burnley etc. Confidence is on the floor, not one attacking player is on form or confident how does that happen to half a team all at the same time?

If you said how many of their players get in our 11 even without Gomez and VVD it would maybe be 1 or 2 at most. That obviously means our players are performing well below their levels. Only 2 or 3 of our players are having a good season what has happen to the other 15 or so players? I will be happy with top 4 but we need to start winning asap.


 

 

17 Jan 2021 19:56:32
Are best performances this season have been when the usual front 3 have not started together which is telling,
It really is time too make serious decisions as they have been found out and ran into the ground for 4 seasons .
Time for klopp too show variety with the squad, taki shaqiri and if played as a striker origi for a presence up front .
We have 2 specialists in left and right back who can whip a proper ball in origi is a different option.


1.) 17 Jan 2021 20:10:30
I agree but some people on here think Salah and Mane can't get dressed without Firmino.


2.) 17 Jan 2021 20:14:38
Hailstones, so what do you propose Klopp does with the current forwards at his disposal not named Salah, Mane and Bobbie? Just asking for a friend.


3.) 17 Jan 2021 20:22:56
I agree, Hailstones. Got to be worth a try on Thursday, even if only for an hour or so. In terms of putting the ball in the net, they literally can’t do any worse than the last three matches.

I think Mane was the only one who showed some signs of getting back to sharpness today. I would go with Mane and Shaqiri as the wide forwards and Origi down the middle playing as a proper centre forward.

Phillips at the back against Burnley, Hendo in midfield.


4.) 17 Jan 2021 20:32:47
So do you suggest just sticking with the front 3 oily red yeah?
How can we score 7 against palace tails up? then 1 goal in 4 and no wins confidence shot.


5.) 17 Jan 2021 20:47:55
That’s a classic Rudder. Permission to use that quote in future posts?


6.) 17 Jan 2021 20:51:37
No probs Markp08.


7.) 17 Jan 2021 20:52:28
Nice rudder,
It shouldn't be like that though mate should it? Over reliance is coming back to bite us on the ass .


8.) 17 Jan 2021 21:48:22
Hailstones, you don’t answer a question with a question. I asked you to propose what Klopp should do and you did not answer. If you don’t know then pls, say so. If you do then, let’s hear it so we can actually discuss it.


9.) 17 Jan 2021 21:52:37
Well I definitely think klopp messed up by not playing mini after he got the goal his confidence was up but now no idea how he would feel after been dropped for so long although he seems a good lad and deserves a chance.


10.) 17 Jan 2021 22:17:20
Yes oli red, I said in my 1st post I would like to see klopp put trust in minamino getting a game and confidence, shaq if fit could add something different, and if origi is played as a striker we have 2 full backs who put a lot of balls in the box that firmino isn't feeding off hence show variety .
I also think klopp missing a trick by not playing curtis jones in a more attacking role either wide or centrally instead of an orthodox midfielder, the lad can shoot from range and drive at teams .


 

 

16 Jan 2021 21:59:54
When Harvey barnes was linked with us in the summer it was laughed at but he is maturing into a great player if salah or mane leave he could do big things for us .


1.) 16 Jan 2021 22:24:58
If Salah departs this summer we need to be aiming for Haaland.


2.) 17 Jan 2021 00:31:44
Haaland is an out an out striker, I am talking wide attacking.


3.) 17 Jan 2021 01:43:18
Agreed on Haaland. Klopp pull some of those Dortmund strings for once.


4.) 17 Jan 2021 02:42:45
Only one Harvey I'm interested in for Salah's replacement.


5.) 17 Jan 2021 07:47:37
Barnes is not even better than Jota, who is nowhere near Salah’s immense ability. Neither of them are. IMO, If people think any old winger out there can just come in here and replicate the world class ability and production of Salah then, they are in for a shock.


6.) 17 Jan 2021 09:52:17
Ain't no ordinary winger he is in double figures already and he is still very young, he will develop into a great player.


7.) 17 Jan 2021 09:53:55
Precisely OliRed. Salah for where he plays is an anomaly. His numbers will be hard to find, if you are going wide man for wide man. Haaland on the other hand is the one I see that can replicate his goal scoring stats but through the middle, with Mane and Jota either side. With all that being said I would prefer he stays but if he goes, we should be going down that avenue.


8.) 17 Jan 2021 10:05:02
Agreed OliRed, There isn't a wide player in World football like Salah and we are blessed to have him.


9.) 17 Jan 2021 11:54:48
Hailstones, Compared to Salah and Mane, Barnes is indeed any old winger. Just facts, bro. Also, I am not interested in what Barnes will b cos nobody really knows that. I am interested in what he is now and for right now, the gulf in class between he and Jota is insane, IMO and Jota just got here. Here are my reasons.

Barnes has been at LC for his 3rd season and I am yet to see if he can step it up whereas Jota came into arguably the best team in Europe over the past three seasons and has improved it. Just facts, bro.

IMO, Jota has a much better chance at replacing Salah and Mane right now than Barnes does and even for that to happen, Jota has a tonne of work to do to get to the Balon D’Or levels both boys play at and Barnes will have to work as hard to get to Jota’s level, IMO .


 

 

 

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31 Dec 2020 12:43:50
Matip is out for 3 weeks Great news!, but what happens within the first 3 games at best when he gets injured again and we back up shxt creek without a paddle .
I hope we are looking at a centre back or 2 on loan or to buy because it is imperative we have reinforcements and if possible as quick as possible.

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22 Dec 2020 16:32:48
Yes I would love that too happen the kid is mustard, few others in u18s who look promising, james balagazi, Leyton stewart, fraundorph the new German signing looks great . Brilliant that youngsters getting a chance.


 

 

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22 Dec 2020 16:29:48
Thuram who plays in Germany done the same thing the other day, right in guys face, pretty sure we have been linked with him.


 

 

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14 Nov 2020 22:31:00
Gabriel from arsenal was good value post C.V. maybe we can pick up a handy defender for around that mark if there is cash .


 

 

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18 Oct 2020 17:09:46
If that's the case Layton stewart should get a game 👍.


 

 

 

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25 Jan 2021 21:33:17
The drop off is so weird since that 7-0 its unexplainable the whole team including klopp look shot.


 

 

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25 Jan 2021 17:07:32
It's a sad state of affairs but sokratis is better an more experienced than ryhs William's and spot on with nat Phillip's he should of got a little run in the team to gain confidence.


 

 

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23 Jan 2021 16:32:41
Yes but the fact remains we are desperate for a defender to the point were its effecting the performance of the team and was needed in the first place when lovren left .


 

 

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22 Jan 2021 23:00:09
Yeah I hope he gets the right treatment and wins his battle and he will grow stronger for it .


 

 

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22 Jan 2021 11:59:43
Yes but we need money spending now, lovely that jota and thiago signed but past 3 seasons only them, taki and Harvey elliot have come to the club . I would love to be positive but don't continually blow smoke up the teams ass when they need a rocket up there instead .