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17 Aug 2024 12:10:08
Afternoon ed002,
We've moved a few players on and potentially more, a good thing? Do you see the squad as bloated?
Cheers
Drogie.
{Ed002's Note - There are certainly players in the squad that won't get a game (e.g. Phillips and Williams) and efforts are being made to sell others, and bring in additions. The time to ask that will be on September 1.}
1.) 17 Aug 2024 12:33:20
Ok cheers ed002.
2.) 18 Aug 2024 12:24:54
I can understand some players being kept in for potential etc but Phillips and Williams still being on the books is ridiculous.
{Ed002's Note - On the plus side, Anderson Arroyo has finally left after eight loans.}
3.) 18 Aug 2024 23:19:39
Forgot about him. Unbelievable. If I showed anything close to that level of inefficient resource management in my job I'd be sacked instantly. How some people stay employed at this supposedly top tier level is beyond me.
15 Aug 2024 08:42:54
Morning ed002,
We've moved or and are moving on a few players, has interest in Gravenberch gone?
Cheers
Drogie.
{Ed002's Note - Galatasaray opted for another after speaking with Liverpool.
1.) 15 Aug 2024 09:24:02
Cheers ed002.
01 Aug 2024 13:47:47
Hi ed002 - are Galatasary still interested in talking Gravenberch?
Cheers
Drogie.
{Ed002's Note - Yes, but I understand they want an initial loan only at this time.}
1.) 01 Aug 2024 15:37:13
Ed, this is a reach, but I'm curious if you know anything about the circumstances around Gravenberch/ Galatasary. Does he have an aggressive agent that seems to be always looking to move him on? Is he concerned about playing time or perhaps how he fits into Slot's approach? From where I'm sitting, I thought he had a decent year last year. Some bumps, but a lot of good moments too, and definitely seems to be one that fits well into the midfield group at LFC. I find it odd that he is once again in the rumour mill.
{Ed002's Note - Agents talk to clubs all or their time. It is no different than anyone else.}
2.) 01 Aug 2024 16:24:49
Interesting. Thanks, Ed. I get it. I guess it took it as if there were some legs to their pursuit of him, but I'll take it for what it is. Appreciate it all the notes as always!
{Ed002's Note - There is interest in him.}
11 Jul 2024 20:31:21
Evening Ed002.
Heard today we were in for Watkins, load of nonsense? Also, have we approached Newcastle again for Gordon?
Cheers
Drogie.
{Ed002's Note - Ollie Watkins (S) Agent is looking for options and has spoken with Manchester United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal. Aston Villa want a new contract.
Anthony Gordon (LW/F) I find it very surprising that Liverpool have indeed enquired after Gordon as an option ahead of others they have been considering as a Luiz replacement including Federico Chiesa. Newcastle are open to a sale as the player is pushing for the move - in a similar way when he left Everton, but they will look to scalp a buyer. After an initial offer was rejected, Liverpool have returned for further discussion but want the price to drop and to include a player in the deal. Although Kelleher as been mentioned, Newcastle have signed Vlachodimos. Their desire for Quansah was rejected by Liverpool who have now offered Joe Gomez. Newcastle would likely accept a £70M cash deal, or lesser cash if agreement could be reached with a player and both sides. Liverpool would be willing to include any fringe player or any player they are willing to sell. It is possible. A wildcard option would be Manchetser City but they would have to find a buyer for Jack Grealish who they would likely have to take a significant loss on.}
1.) 11 Jul 2024 22:10:06
Would make absolutely no sense. Villa will ask stupid money for him as he’s on a long contract (til 2028), they are in the champions league and there’s the additional “English tax”, add to that the fact that he’ll be 29 in December, there’s simply no point paying over the odds for a player that old.
2.) 11 Jul 2024 22:43:59
Not sure I would straight swap Gomez for Gordon. Would they be interested in Nat Phillip?
3.) 11 Jul 2024 22:47:24
I’m sure I’ve read the same thing somewhere about 4 or 5 times.
4.) 12 Jul 2024 07:00:19
Hopefully that will get the Gordon deal done Ed002. Newcastle get a decent RB/ CB who improves their squad, we get a very good LW/ CF who improves our squad. Win win.
5.) 12 Jul 2024 07:48:08
Well if we are offering all our center backs left right and center to other teams that means we are brining in more than one center back.
6.) 12 Jul 2024 08:00:18
Eds, if Liverpool are looking for a striker is Toney a possibility? His contract is running down next year.
{Ed002's Note - No.}
7.) 12 Jul 2024 09:45:02
Absolutely baffling that we would rather pay 50 million more for Gordon than Chiesa. I would actually prefer we keep Diaz than buy Gordon but appreciate our hand may be forced. Nonetheless there must be better options than Gordon - I’d even prefer Harvey Barnes from Newcastle if he could stay fit.
Poor signing and likely using a significant part of our budget to get it over the line.
We would then also need to replace Gomez and doubt we could get a better squad player than him.
8.) 12 Jul 2024 10:08:45
Ed,
Are you aware of the amount of money offered along with Gomez? Or what both clubs value him at?
Thanks!
{Ed002's Note - They want £70M.}
9.) 12 Jul 2024 10:28:24
£45-50m cash plus Gomez should do it so, that's assuming Gomez wants Newcastle and they want him obviously. Sad to see Joe go but I think the timing is right for everyone.
10.) 12 Jul 2024 10:39:30
Thanks Ed,
Gomez and 35mil sounds about right to me.
11.) 12 Jul 2024 19:00:35
Or sell gomez for 25 - 30m and spend 50m on nico williams release clause? . Not against Gordon but I'd try Williams first, I'd also pick up olmo too if possible and sell jota.
12.) 12 Jul 2024 19:11:44
Phillips is nowhere near good enough for Newcastle.
13.) 13 Jul 2024 23:45:58
This is crazy talk, Joe Gomez is homegrown, cracking player and versatile he can play anywhere across the back four. He would be super hard to replace and he would be a huge loss to the squad. Mad so many are happy to see him used as a make weight.
22 May 2024 07:17:41
Morning ed002,
You mentioned MacAllister is on Madrid's list for 2025, why specifically 2025?
Cheers
Drogie.
{Ed002's Note - Clubs identify players they are interested in who aren't immediately available (e.g. in the case of Real Madrid, Florian Wirtz) or are deemed too expensive (e.g. Erling Haaland). Clubs will hope to see players run down their contract if entering the final year (e.g. Trent Alexander-Arnold).}
1.) 22 May 2024 09:05:17
Ok thanks ed002, I understand regarding Trent, I’m just trying to see why MacAllister would be available in 2025, does his contract run down then too? cheers Drogie.
{Ed002's Note - He is a Real Madrid target for 2025 - it doesn't mean Liverpool would look to sell. It is no different to Liverpool having targets that clubs don't want to sell.}
2.) 22 May 2024 10:05:11
Imagine how Madrid could look in 2025. Alonso coming in as manager. Camavinga Tchouameni Mac Allister Valverde Bellingham Wirtz in midfield Vinicius Mbappe Haaland Rodrygo Guler Endrick up top ?.
3.) 22 May 2024 10:35:04
Or Klopp, maybe?
4.) 22 May 2024 10:11:52
Ed02 rumors of Alexis has a 60 million release clause in his contract? I don't remember him having that in there?
{Ed002's Note - There is nothing noted on the TMS. He could of course have a separate agreement with Liverpool.}
5.) 22 May 2024 18:11:53
Would Klopp go to Real, or would he choose an ailing Barca? I can see him ending up at one of those two.
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19 Jan 2025 08:44:03
Leek, how will FSG detail our season? There’s money to spend and just a heads up, FSG do not get involved with the day to day running of the club, including transfers. Just like many, you’re barking up the wrong tree.
1.) 19 Jan 2025 09:28:13
FSG is business entity. To answer your questions, please state the biz objectives of FSG. Is winning lesgue title, champions league title a KPI of FSG? Then i will reply.
2.) 19 Jan 2025 09:35:59
Drogie do you believe that FSG are some how not in the loop of what will be the 3 biggest contracts in the history of the club or the biggest loss of assets for free.
I’d imagine FSG will be quite hands on with this. What business owner wouldn’t be.
3.) 19 Jan 2025 09:45:06
If they are not JK. And I suspect they may not be. JWH is getting too old and unattached, or his focus is on the FSG expansion and not on us.
Tbh we have never been his primary focus. I think it is time someone who is prepared to give us, the fans, more emotional investment and engagement laid their cards on the table and made him an offer.
4.) 19 Jan 2025 10:31:29
Most business owners have absolutely nothing to do with employee contracts.
5.) 19 Jan 2025 10:36:35
Leek, football has been a business since 1992. If you don’t think FSG’s objective is to win, then more fool you.
Maybe take a look at the clubs accounts, you might learn something, it’s transparent and there for all to see. the club will more than likely make another loss due to not being the the CL last season
You really have no idea, and as the great ed002 said, football finance and the average fan don’t mix - toy fall into the category.
6.) 19 Jan 2025 10:45:58
FSG pay big bucks to those who they feel fit to run the club. Trent was ready to sign 18 or so months ago, but the club, the previous regime, not FSG, sat ok their laurels. With Salah and Virg it made sense to wait, especially Virg as his form fell off the edge of a cliff after his injury.
7.) 19 Jan 2025 10:57:23
@Drogie, I think FSG (at Henry, Werner etc. level) may know about these things cos we know Michael Gordon (an FSG partner) used to run the club on a day to day level. That does not mean that they will intervene in player-related issues. Why? Cos they never have.
The top FSG brass hired people to do this like Hughes, Ward and Edwards (at a higher level) with Billy Hogan to run the club (I think) so if @Leek has issues with these people then, fair enuff. Always, screaming "FSG" when Salah misses a chance or when we concede is just disturbing behavior, IMO.
8.) 19 Jan 2025 11:06:40
They'd definitely be made aware of the contract situation but I'm not sure if they'd step in directly to resolve it. I'd imagine they'd be putting pressure on Ward to sort it out one way or another though.
9.) 19 Jan 2025 11:52:36
So if the club employees decides to give Salah a Haaland style contract FSG would be none the wiser until the contracts signed?
10.) 19 Jan 2025 12:12:31
You and I know a Haaland style contract will not be offered to Salah. The club sets its on budgets and has a wage structure. The new rules that are about to land effects salaries massively as it will all be on a percentage of the clubs turnover and let’s not forget, salaries are the biggest outlay for a football club.
Trent’s contract should have been offered 18 months ago.
I’m not trying to pick the bones from you JK, you’re a good poster but take a look at the clubs accounts it’s all very transparent mate.
11.) 19 Jan 2025 12:45:20
Oli - I do know how it works mate, a very very close friend of mine reports directly to Hogan. Saying FSG will derail our season is utter cr*p. There’s money to spend.
12.) 19 Jan 2025 13:41:03
Drogie absolutely not mate and I was genuinely having a discussion and debate with you.
You’re also a good poster mate and very interesting to hear a close friend of yours reports to Hogan.
13.) 19 Jan 2025 14:07:38
JK, thank you mate. It is an interesting one, we’ve been mates since the age of 16 and now he works for the club - pretty mad.
16 Jan 2025 20:04:44
Evening ed001
Hope you're well mate.
Quick question, where do you think we need to strengthen from a priority point of few. Clearly we need to see what happens contract wise but if all three sign, what's your thoughts mate
Cheers
Drogie.
{Ed001's Note - left back.}
1.) 16 Jan 2025 20:32:47
Who would be your choice ed? I like kerkez personally. Good two way defender.
{Ed001's Note - he is very poor defensively. I would have liked to see Beck or Chambers fed gradually into the team this season to see if they were the answer.}
2.) 16 Jan 2025 21:43:10
I reckon we end up with Kerkez. Hughes struggling to make transfers, but with it being Bournemouth etc. you can just see it.
3.) 16 Jan 2025 21:57:05
Hopefully Davies in a free.
03 Jan 2025 16:27:47
Evening ed001 mate.
Salah interview with Sky Sports literally 10 mins ago, saying it's his last season. Why are the club letting these interviews go ahead? I just don't get it.
And what is Ward doing ( think you mentioned he was in charge of contracts ) ?
Cheers
Drogie.
{Ed001's Note - you would need to ask the club. Unless they have decided to let him go at the end of the season and this is him telling us? I don't know, I have been out and not seen any interview.}
1.) 03 Jan 2025 18:46:32
Maybe players contracts were one of the reasons why Jurgen left, could understand anyone wanting to better yourself but we are in a better position than any of our rivals home/ abroad, Real Madrids empire is coming to an end like all empires.
The imminent lack of transfer funds for Arne, only makes ye close rivals stronger and LFC weaker, transfer funds was probably another reason for Jurgen leaving, who could blame him for wanting "champagne talent" on lemonade money.
2.) 03 Jan 2025 19:13:12
I can hear the echo of "That's why we don't talk about money"
3.) 03 Jan 2025 22:39:58
To be fair, it is his last season - his contract runs out in June. Of course he might sign a new contract if the club provides what he is willing to accept.
4.) 03 Jan 2025 19:37:07
Who said there was lack of transfer funds for Slot, 007?
5.) 04 Jan 2025 02:51:03
@Oli, as you are well aware in the absence of any factual knowledge of how finances work within LFC who are, in turn, within FSG and a lack of knowledge / understanding of how finances work within football in general people put forward the worst case they are capable of imagining and then make up numbers to provide support for their ‘opinion’. I hasten to add that I have no clue about football finances either but I do have nearly 50 years of adult experience listening to people making stuff up (again, myself included) .
6.) 04 Jan 2025 15:55:18
Sorry, @WDW. I totally forgot.
19 Nov 2024 09:42:41
Hi Ed001,
Hope you're ok pal.
Quick question to keep your mind on thing mate.
Whilst Edwards and Hughes should have made the " contract " situation a priority, do you think the owners should got their eye on the ball regarding this? Also, I feel we should have been looking at these 18 months ago.
What's your thoughts on this mate?
Cheers
Drogie.
{Ed001's Note - it is not in Hughes' remit at all. Nothing to do with him. The Salah and VVD deals, well it makes sense to wait until the season had begun, I don't see that being an issue at all. I also don't see why anyone would want the owners to interfere. They appoint the best people they believe they can find, so they should step back and let them do their job.}
1.) 19 Nov 2024 10:14:10
People just want an Ed to back up the idea that the owners suck.
16 Nov 2024 08:02:54
Good morning Ed001 / Ed25
I've just logged on mid and I can't believe what I'm reading. Is this really the case, Ed002 has passed away? I'm lost for words
Please pass on my condolences to his family.
I loved interacting with ed002, his knowledge of the game was second to none. Even though I'd not met ed002, it felt like I'd know him for ages, every day I log on looking out for ed002''s comments.
I'm sure I speak for most, you'll be sorely missed and I'm absolutely gutted.
RIP ed002
Drogie xx.
{Ed001's Note - I wish I could tell you that it is not true, but sadly we have lost him to hopefully a better place. I am sure he is busy keeping gilfnards in line up there now. We editors will miss him so much. He was even more larger than life onnthe widget, especially after a night out. Though I am sure his wife didn't appreciate the pics of her drunk sprawled out that he would post up at times! I will miss his tales of university life in San Francisco during the height of the Vietnam War. It is worth looking at the clashes between the police and students from his time on youtube - it was a shock to me to see what kind of things he witnessed growing up.}
1.) 16 Nov 2024 08:14:30
Hi Ed001,
What an interesting character and I’d have loved to have met ed002. I have no doubt he will be missed by you all
I’ve made a small donation ed001 and if business picks up I will add…
Cheers
Drogie.
{Ed001's Note - he was very interesting mate. Taught me so much about writing too. Your donation is greatly appreciated. The amount is not important, it is just so we can make a donation in his name to a charity to show how much we appreciated what he did. If he was a footballer or manager, the club would put up a statue to him, we can't do that, so this is something tangible that shows how much he means and that will also benefit others. I think that is fitting because he did this for free just to help out and inform us all.}
2.) 16 Nov 2024 08:49:29
Agreed ed001 mate we will have statue in our minds of the legendary Ed002….
3.) 16 Nov 2024 08:32:19
RIP ed002.
Nice post ed001, I was genuinely choked up reading that. I never met the guy but somehow feels I’ve lost a family member.
Do you know how he passed so I can choose the charity regarding this?
Ed002 You Will Never Walk Alone.
{Ed001's Note - he had a sudden heart attack mate. Hopefully at least he didn't suffer, he certainly seems to have been happily editing away not long before he was gone, which I think is a good sign as he is unlikely to have bothered if he was in pain.}
4.) 16 Nov 2024 09:00:19
RIP Ed002.
Ed001, I think if he was a footballer they’d retire his shirt number!
{Ed001's Note - 100% mate. We certainly will never have another Ed2.}
5.) 16 Nov 2024 10:00:21
Shocked and saddened by this news. Rest in peace Ed002, so much knowledge… and an abundance of flair and character to go with it. Dropping bombs all over the site, colourful humour and of course the never-to-be missed sage-like info - you were our man on the inside and will be sorely missed.
RTFP.
29 Jan 2025 20:42:22
Freebies????
Good job you weren’t around in the 90’s and 00’s.
12 Jan 2025 12:16:07
Slot a yes man? Heard it all now ???.
09 Jan 2025 20:43:09
Good response ( as always ) 25 mate…
Drogie.
07 Jan 2025 17:20:38
The the clueless FSG brigade are starting to surface again ?.
04 Jan 2025 10:07:06
Another clueless FSG post.
30 Jan 2025 06:12:49
Hilarious - maybe some should have been watching the game back in the early 90’s to 00’s when when we were really held back.
24 Jan 2025 15:26:35
You won’t convince the shiny new toy brigade that has no idea how the club operates. The irony of it all, the club’s accounts are transparent and all there for all to see. The club is set to make another loss when the next set of accounts are released in the next couple of months.
22 Jan 2025 06:32:00
Thunderbird - the owners can’t put their own money into the team, no owners can, those days are gone pal.
Newcastle would be buying every top talent if they was the case, they have richest owners in the league, yet still need to balance the books in r to buy.
21 Jan 2025 07:08:53
Actually, Hailstones is correct. Fergie would move players on just as they peaked and would get good money to reinvest back into the team, he was ruthless.
For me, this was Klopp’s one slight downfall, too loyal to certain players.
20 Jan 2025 12:32:00
Completely agree JK23.