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08 May 2021 08:55:14
Morning Ed002, not a usual post from me but.

Do we hold any interest in Rennes 18 year old midfielder Eduardo Camavinga?

Drogie

{Ed002's Note - Eduardo Camavinga (DM/CM) Rennes will look for a summer auction as he the player has no interest in signing a new contract. Serious approaches for Camavinga have been made by Real Madrid, PSG, Arsenal, Manchester United and Spurs - but Arsenal can be discounted as they do not have the money nor the real need for the player and Spurs, and possibly Manchester United, as they are not attractive destinations for many players. Interest has also been shown by Borussia Dortmund (who were quoted €100M), Bayern Munich, Barcelona, Manchester City, Atletico Madrid and Genk - but the last two can be discounted as they simply don't have the funds and the others have other targets. A move to England for the kiddie is less likely than a move to Spain. He is perhaps a little way from first team football at the highest level but PSG, Barcelona and Real Madrid are considering taking a chance on him in the summer but will not pay the revised COVID-19 asking price of €75M and if Zidane were to depart Real Madrid that would change. Bayern Munich see him as an option to Zakaria. There was a discussion about the player with Chelsea who have a very good relationship with Rennes, but they have preferred options and see the price as too high - but perhaps something could be negotiated depending on departures which would be the driver for Chelsea. There has been no approaach from Liverpool.}


1.) 08 May 2021 10:37:24
Ok thanks Ed002, looks like he could become some player.

{Ed002's Note - Yes he is very well thought of.}


2.) 08 May 2021 22:25:07
Ed2, interested in your comment "Spurs, and possibly Manchester United, as they are not attractive destinations for many players"

Can you explain a bit more what that is about? Especially ManU?

{Ed002's Note - Manchester United have disgruntled midfield players and have repeatedly failed to provide any roadmap for players.}


 

 

31 Jan 2021 14:45:33
A rumour in the echo - Mané might not be playing this afternoon.

Drogie

1.) 31 Jan 2021 15:42:36
Correct. Origi, Shaq and salah. poor.


2.) 31 Jan 2021 15:55:07
Minimino can’t get look in! I’d not be starting origi he’s dirt I don’t care what goals he scored! All he does is fall over and do step overs! (Hope he makes me eat these words)!


3.) 31 Jan 2021 16:03:11
Minamino would be entitled to throw in a transfer request at this rate .


4.) 31 Jan 2021 16:23:26
Taki cannot get a game for love nor money and feel for the lad. If Origi scores today and we win, well perfect. But it doesn’t excuse the fact he has not been up standard for as long as I can remember. He should be sold this summer to raise much needed funds. Come to think of it, he should have been sold the summer just gone but here we are.


5.) 31 Jan 2021 16:32:36
The time to sell origi was right after the champions league final win. He was worth twice as much on the back of that season. Can’t see him going now.


6.) 31 Jan 2021 17:29:44
Origi has been a passenger, literally offers nothing. Bound to score the winner now 😂😂😂.


7.) 31 Jan 2021 18:24:52
Embarrassing post.


8.) 31 Jan 2021 18:47:43
Aye, poor j6.


9.) 31 Jan 2021 19:21:38
How is it a poor post? Its factually correct. Origi offered nothing in that game. It's not slagging the individual but the performance. Jesus, snow flake city boys. I forgot an opinion is outlawed.


 

 

01 Jan 2021 09:34:05
Morning Ed's and Happy New year to you all!

It looks like we are set to sign 16 year old Stefan Bajcetic ( CB ) for the academy. Apparently we've been tracking him since 2019 and with the club wanting to get this particular deal over the line speaks volumes for the player's future potential.

Drogie

1.) 01 Jan 2021 13:01:05
Stefan Bajcetic was signed yesterday before the Brexit deadline.


 

 

30 Sep 2020 12:58:32
Quick couple of questions Ed002 if I may.

Hearing Sheffield United are in advanced talks to sign Brewster for around £17m, with a buy back clause?

Apparently ( yesterday ) there was a meeting regarding how the season could end should the C.V. take hold of the country again next year?

Cheers.

Drogie

{Ed002's Note - (a) I am not sure what "advanced talks" are but that is the offer they put on the table a few days ago. (b) The proposal is to have who ever is in the lead awarded the title if more than 50% of games have been completed by all sides should the season stop again.}


1.) 30 Sep 2020 13:46:39
Win next 15 games and we're there Drogie :) . In all seriousness, let's hope a vaccine is found as soon as is safely possible for everyone's sake as it's unlikely to disappear anytime soon.


2.) 30 Sep 2020 13:31:45
Surely that proposal will be turned down ed? Do you have any thoughts on it? Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have been struggling to sell players because they have over-valued them and buyers are not knocking on the door. Hence no solution for Grujic, Brewster or Wilson just yet.}


3.) 30 Sep 2020 13:44:48
Wow, so that makes having a lead at the top of the table and maintaining it more important than ever!


4.) 30 Sep 2020 14:17:40
Hey Ed, would you know if this would be the case even if the team in the lead was only in the lead by goal difference or even just 1 point? Probably hasn't been clarified yet but thought I'd ask out of curiosity.

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - It is very simple, it is whichever team is occupying first place after all sides have played 50% of their games if the season has to end. And most clubs are in agreement with it.}


5.) 30 Sep 2020 14:49:59
Is there any news on Shaq's departure? He is surely a good prospect for someone at around 25m.

{Ed002's Note - I am sure that clubs are queuing up at £25M.}


6.) 30 Sep 2020 15:33:30
Thank you Ed, I can't see clubs agreeing to it if that were to happen!

{Ed002's Note - As I said, most clubs are in agreement or don't care (such they would not vote against it).}


7.) 30 Sep 2020 18:26:38
Surprised they don't care, European places be settled the same way one presumes?


8.) 30 Sep 2020 17:54:47
Hi ED,

Would this still be on the basis of no relegation unless the season is completed.

{Ed002's Note - It is an unrelated issue.}


9.) 30 Sep 2020 23:13:56
Doubt the league would be stopped early it would financially cripple the league.


10.) 30 Sep 2020 23:43:04
I think it's a bit silly if the league was settled like that but maybe it's for financial reasons that clubs aren't voting against that proposal. Then again, I have no idea if prize money would be paid in full or apportioned in line with the number of games played.

I would find it strange if someone got crowned champions (even if it was us) for 20 games or so and then when back playing again to start another new season.


11.) 01 Oct 2020 06:38:02
That really would be a league title that didn't count, 50 percent doesn't seem right. I hope it doesn't get stopped.


12.) 01 Oct 2020 10:48:42
If it had to be cancelled then 50% is arguably fairer then 75%.

With 50% you'd expect everyones played each other once and the best team would likely sit top.

If you went with a higher percentage you then have teams that could have an easier run and all their hard fixtures at the end of the season. If they were top it wouldn't necessarily be a true reflection.

Fingers crossed we don't need to activate the rule anyway.


13.) 01 Oct 2020 11:28:35
Good point Wyred but still isn't fair and any team to win it like that wouldn't ever be seen as true champions imo.


14.) 01 Oct 2020 12:42:09
Its a complete worse case scenario though mate, if its triggered I think there will be a lot worse to worry about then of its fair.

It won't be ideal if its what's required but I think its better then scrubbing a season completely.


 

 

17 Jul 2020 09:39:49
The Telegraph are reporting Diego Carlos is Guardiola's first choice CB. Be interesting to see if we throw our hat in the mix should city make a move for him.

The only reason I'm posting this is because Klopp has an interest.

Have you heard anything on this ( regarding City's ) interest Ed002?

Drogie

{Ed002's Note - Diego Carlos (CB) Manchester City had dropped their interest in preference of two others - but it could return. Real Madrid has a sustained interest but the focus is seeing what funds can be raised and then returning for DC or another. Barcelona have him on their list of CBs but money is going to be an issue this summer and they will look to horse trade using Ivan Rakitic. Priority is, like Real Madrid and get any transfer completed and then see where they are (they have already deferred their two major purchases to next summer). Liverpool has declared an interest in taking DC in the summer. If this happens, I would think it would be the big move for the club this summer and would leave Gomez picking up pieces across the defence. May be viable for Liverpool to include Xherdan Shaqiri in a deal but that opportunity is very quickly drifting away and having no funds will hamper them.


1.) 17 Jul 2020 12:26:58
I think Gomez will be picking up the pieces of his liverpool career if we spend big money on a CB.


2.) 17 Jul 2020 12:45:20
Thanks for the comprehensive reply Ed002.


3.) 17 Jul 2020 13:27:57
You need to ask yourself, if Virg was to get injured, can you see Gomez as the same player without Virg next to him. Gomez is brilliant but I think Klopp would want another leader/ strong centre half. Personally I don't think Gomez posseses leadership qualities in the backline if we missed Virg.


4.) 17 Jul 2020 13:33:05
I doubt they'll sell him for a hat.


5.) 17 Jul 2020 18:31:32
Gomez may be a bit young to be a Virgil type CB but he is still a very good CB and I do not think we will be looking to replace him.


6.) 17 Jul 2020 17:30:11
Hi Ed, I hope you are keeping well.

Do you think we would make a move even if we hadn't done the potential business that would raise the (or any of the) funds?

I have read and understood your view re our finances but is this player and in particular this position important enough for Klopp to react should it look like he is losing him prior to the expected sales?

I appreciate that it's a speculative question but I hope you see what I mean and why I ask.

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - The club does not have funds without selling unless they dip in to the money that is available from all of the assets being mortgaged, including Anfield. That makes ltlle sense to me.}


7.) 17 Jul 2020 20:25:32
Gomez can't pass. Has only got pace. he's a 3rd choice if a more cultured def is available. Klopp knows it. He struggled to oust matip before he got injured.


8.) 17 Jul 2020 21:39:56
I don't understand what has happened to Gomez's confidence? As He was doing fine last season. As things stand today, Matip is the better CB.


9.) 17 Jul 2020 23:27:56
Gomez can't pass? had to read that line a few times.


10.) 18 Jul 2020 03:20:30
Get off Gomez back. We just won the league and there was an expected hangover. Granted we didn't expect a 4-0 hangover and a loss to Arsenal but don't throw the towel in on Gomez. I personally like the scenario of Gomez filling in at all spots, Larouchi getting a move away which is good for his career and whatever transfer funds we have being used for Carlos. I think we are a few years from seeing Ki jana and Sepp ready to step up, so it would make plenty of sense to me.


11.) 18 Jul 2020 03:58:48
Joe gomez is 23 and has won the premier league champions league and club world cup as a centre back with liverpool.

Some people are saying he ain't good enough. Name me a better centre half around his age. He plays in a high pressure environment week in week out at a top level. He ain't a 23 year old cb playing in a soft league. Look at our goals conceded total this year.

Hes about 6 years away from his peak too btw.

If gomez struggles with anything its confidence at times. That will mature naturally. he's a much better centre half than even he thinks he is and certainly a much better centre half than some liverpool supporters think.

He would walk into any other defence in the premier league and he's home grown as well.

Liverpool need another back up cb if lovern leaves. Nothing more. If they can get a really good one who is happy to rotate and at a decent price then great.


12.) 18 Jul 2020 14:07:54
you don't have be over 23 to pass a ball.


13.) 18 Jul 2020 18:15:55
What is this nonsense about Gomez not being able to pass?

Sure, he can't ping 50 yard passes like Vigil can, but he's adept enough at passing for what he needs.


14.) 19 Jul 2020 07:48:20
he often puts others under pressure with his passing. Personally think it's a weak point far outweighed by the rest of his game.

We do need another first choice CD though.


15.) 21 Jul 2020 22:05:49
I like gomez he’s quick and statistically gomez and VVD are a great partnership. As in they rarely concede. For me liverpool still need a proper striker more than anything else. 20 plus shots on goal scoring one isn’t good enough. Mane Salah and Firmino are superb but often they need 5 chances to score one. Firmino hasn’t scored at anfield this season. Brilliant player who for me is one of the first players on the team sheet but his finishing isn’t great. We need a Torres type up top imo.


 

 

 

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03 Jan 2022 20:14:22
Evening ed002 - Have Liverpool posted their financial results?

Drogie

{Ed002's Note - Typically February.}


1.) 03 Jan 2022 20:33:12
Do you have any idea what will be released? Will we be in the black this season.

Did we make a loss last season?

Cheers
Drogie.

{Ed002's Note - The club will make a significant loss, like most if not all PL sides due to Covid. And yes there was a loss last season.}


2.) 03 Jan 2022 21:05:17
Thanks ed002.


3.) 04 Jan 2022 07:11:59
I think Chelsea was £147 million loss? Can't see Liverpools results being much better, if at all.


4.) 04 Jan 2022 09:12:27
Ed002 apologies if a silly question.

When football clubs release their accounts is it over 12 months? And is it Jan-Dec or Apr-Mar or an actual season or non of the above?

{Ed002's Note - It is nearly always July-June.}


5.) 04 Jan 2022 09:35:26
THE LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB AND ATHLETIC GROUNDS LIMITED- the main entity makes its accounts up to 31 May of each year, this year due for submission by 28 February 2022 to Companies House.


6.) 04 Jan 2022 09:16:15
Ed002 cheers mate. If I had 10 more guesses I would have nailed it lol.


 

 

26 Dec 2021 09:09:26
Merry Christmas fellow Reds and Ed's and I hope the the New Year brings much joy and success to everyone

Drogie.

Drogie

1.) 26 Dec 2021 19:13:22
Thank you very much Drogie.


2.) 27 Dec 2021 14:08:20
Cheers drogie, you too mate.


3.) 27 Dec 2021 15:03:14
3 of my favourite posters above me! Merry Xmas to you all fellas, hope you and yours all had a good un!

{Ed0666's Note - I can think of 3 better posters mate 😂


4.) 27 Dec 2021 17:03:19
Megan fox, Angela white and la sirena.


5.) 27 Dec 2021 17:53:43
Cheers Drogie, hope you and yours have a great Christmas.


6.) 27 Dec 2021 15:29:22
Are you at it again Tinkerbell 🤔.


7.) 27 Dec 2021 16:20:14
Mine were all above my bed mate! And didn’t include bazza with a jar of peanut butter! They all had a nice pair and an amazing peach! 👍.


8.) 27 Dec 2021 20:34:16
I graduated from posters a long time ago lads, now it's jazz rags hidden from the missus! (Or, in case she reads this, she's all I need, 😁)


 

 

19 Dec 2021 05:27:29
Morning ed002,

Is it true FSG have been linked with a purchase of Brazilian team Cruzeiro?

Drogie

{Ed002's Note - Shares in the club are now available for sale and they are expecting individual investors, other club owners and corporate sports investors to be interested - including FSG.}


 

 

20 Nov 2021 06:46:55
Morning Ed002,

How all is well? As the football rumours jet setter, where will you be spending your time at Christmas this year?

I have a question, I saw you mention we need to sell in order to buy, which we've known for a while but I also read we have large debts, would you mind explaining the debt situation and where it sits with us buying players and FFP?

Cheers
Drogie.

Drogie

{Ed002's Note - Ho Drogie. Right now I plan to spend Christmas in Cornwall. The debt reported at the end of the 19/20 season was around £240M with about £70M of that owed to FSG. The rest is borrowing much of it secured against the assets (the stadium and other properties the club has. There is no FFP issue at this time.}


1.) 20 Nov 2021 12:23:24
What is the interest payment on £240m or £170m if FSG aren't charging any interest? Are you expecting the debt to be worse come 20/ 21 year end and would you care to put a figure on it? Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - There is more than one loan and so interest rates will vary. At a guess, losses could increase to something between £80M and £100M for 20/21.}


2.) 20 Nov 2021 12:56:22
Is there cause for concern Ed002?

{Ed002's Note - In what respect?}


3.) 20 Nov 2021 14:18:09
As long as we're able to fill Anfield and keep the team on a winning trajectory the finances should improve.
But it won't happen overnight, and the whole recovery process will take a serious dent if there's another lockdown scenario.


4.) 20 Nov 2021 14:49:30
we have a £200mill debt Flash. what are you talking about filling the stadium? goodness me.


5.) 20 Nov 2021 14:55:31
Clearly you have a problem reading posts Keita?


6.) 20 Nov 2021 15:07:42
No Irish

Let me sum up for you. The club will need a huge cash influx and merely filling the stadium won't be enough. Plus this is after we are heading for a major rebuild without a penny in hand. What exactly are you not getting here mate?


7.) 20 Nov 2021 15:55:46
Where's that huge cash influx coming from? Santa maybe?
A cash influx is a pipe dream. The harsh reality is that there is no oil rich sugar daddy waiting to pump billions into the club if FSG don't want to sell, and clearly they don't. They may be open to further investments from folks wanting to buy into the club, but it will be on a limited basis as they want to retain majority control.
So all that's left is the revenue streams we already have.
You're talking about what you want to see KS, I'm talking about reality.


8.) 20 Nov 2021 16:05:51
The reality is that because we can’t afford to spend to keep up, the inevitable result of that is going to be that we will fall behind and enter a period of decline.

And if our finances are bad now, how bad will they be when we don’t make the champions league and finish outside the top four? What with Newcastle’s new found riches I would say that once we fall outside the top four and they break though, we are unlikely to get back in again if we’re flat broke.


9.) 20 Nov 2021 16:33:31
We weren't in the CL when Klopp came VVVV. We spent big and also managed 2 seasons with a combined circa £170 million pre tax profit i believe. that's with buying quality players. I think this seasons financial report will read quite well.


10.) 20 Nov 2021 17:43:21
Problem is Irish, we’ll have a lot of players approaching their thirties and no money to bring in suitable quality replacements, we got lucky by being able to flog Coutinho for big money allowing us to bring in top players, but there’s no one in our squad of that equivalence that we can sell to bring that kind of money again and frankly speaking we simply cannot compete with City, United, Chelsea and now Newcastle, on a financial basis.

Money talks, BS walks unfortunately. How far we’ve fallen in such a short time is shown by our transfer targets, we’re seriously considering third rate dross like Traore and Sanches, while our rivals are looking at the likes of Haaland, Chiesa, Mbappe et al.


11.) 20 Nov 2021 18:27:14
Klopp has had the hots for Traore for a few seasons now, long before C.V. struck and the sh#t hit the fan VVVV. I don't think that is much to do with lack of finance, just some sort of man crush, it might be the baby oil 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤣.


12.) 20 Nov 2021 22:28:35
We'll welcome the winners money from this seasons Champions league.


13.) 21 Nov 2021 09:44:43
How about Elliot, Jones, Gordon, Morton, Bradley, Beck, Konate, Kelleher, Pitulagi, TAA, Gomez etc being the basis for the future.

Perhaps rather than playing Premier League Manager we trust the club to base the future on the young talent from within? Just a thought.


14.) 21 Nov 2021 12:54:17
So unless there isn’t some sort of cash injection we can’t buy anyone. Sell to buy is only good if you sell the fringe which we can’t. Selling first teamers would take us back to stonage.
So all the “how FSG saved us form administration” leads to huge debt 😆.


 

 

15 Nov 2021 21:28:40
Robbo limping off for Scotland - you can't script these injuries 😂.

Drogie

1.) 15 Nov 2021 21:34:54
No need to panic, Tsimikas will get the chance you've all been crying out for.


2.) 15 Nov 2021 21:36:54
Good job we've been resting Tsimikas for the last few months.


3.) 15 Nov 2021 21:59:56
Robbo has been in need for a break a long time now fella must rinse out his socks after every game! I didn’t want this to happen it’s not good poxy intl football I hate it! Bobby hendo Elliot Robbo Gomez mane (Milner mane ) might be back the list grows.


4.) 15 Nov 2021 22:18:23
Fans wanted Robbo out and Mane sold. With both likely to be missing let’s see what the guys in reserve can do.


5.) 15 Nov 2021 23:34:14
Every team as injuries but we need to stop feeling sorry for ourselves and crack on, we need to stop using it as an excuse.


6.) 16 Nov 2021 05:25:17
Mighty, who’s feeling sorry for themselves or panicking ? Thought the emoji might have given that one away 🙄.


7.) 16 Nov 2021 06:49:11
Tmikas will get a good run in the team it seems and tbh its fully deserved. Shame its coming as a result of a Robbo injury though. I reckon we will smash arsenal.


8.) 16 Nov 2021 08:38:34
Just a question really about the medical staff at LFC, I think I read somewhere we got the guys from Arsenal although i may be wrong. who at the time were having lots of muscular injuries, is it a coincidence that we seem to be having them too?

{Ed001's Note - it could be. It is too soon to tell due to the odd nature of last season and that so many of the injuries come from internationals and are not muscle problems the sample size is too small.}


9.) 16 Nov 2021 09:49:49
thanks Ed.


10.) 16 Nov 2021 13:21:00
Robbo was walking round the pitch clapping the fans at final whistle with no ice pack, strap or limp so fully expect him to be in the squad come Saturday.


11.) 16 Nov 2021 19:48:47
Tsimikas needs to be playing and I hope Klopp rests Robbo cos frankly, the guy seems lost whenever he plays at the moment.


 

 

 

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17 Jan 2022 19:55:29
Which bank is it you own Jonsey? I’m impressed mate

Haha, sorry couldn’t resist 😃.

Drogie

 

 

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05 Jan 2022 14:09:19
Thanks Ed002 as always.

Drogie

 

 

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05 Jan 2022 10:23:22
Great insight as always there ed002 - if I can push you further on this, City seem to be able to buy top players most seasons, so can we presume City’s income is greater than ours? If so, where and which revenue vehicles do they excel at?

This is a very informative thread ed002 as so many fans criticise the owners for not putting their hands in their pockets so to speak.

Drogie

{Ed002's Note - The income between the clubs is not significantly different. Manchester City fund transfer through sales and income they recieve from commercial revenues and money they have from their success in the league, champions league etc.. They do better with sponsorship whilst Liverpool do well with sponsorship their income from winning trophies is rather more sporadic and whilst they had significant in come from one sale (Coutinho) they have been building debt. Compared to Chelsea who have been largely paying for purchases through sales in recent years there are improvements that can be made. The owners have funded the training facilities and have loaned the club money - many fans crave rich Arab owners of course, and perhaps one day their wish will come true.}


 

 

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03 Jan 2022 18:48:22
Spot on OMM - Robbo, Timiskas.

Drogie

 

 

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08 Dec 2021 21:44:12
Hi Ed002

Wouldn’t psg be paying his salary?

Drogie

{Ed002's Note - Why would they do that.}


 

 

 

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17 Jan 2022 19:20:18
I’m shy Ed001 - Wondered why I drink so much 😃🍺.

Drogie

{Ed0666's Note - Bestie can’t have been that shy with the number of notches on his bedpost


 

 

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10 Jan 2022 07:12:27
Ed002 - I’m remember your mentioning the club were close to losing close to £1m per week when FSG took over with the owners pumping money in

Drogie.

Drogie

{Ed002's Note - Yes.}


 

 

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10 Jan 2022 06:52:11
Wasn’t Thiago injury prone geode he joined us?

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03 Jan 2022 21:05:17
Thanks ed002.

Drogie

 

 

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03 Jan 2022 20:33:12
Do you have any idea what will be released? Will we be in the black this season.

Did we make a loss last season?

Cheers
Drogie.

Drogie

{Ed002's Note - The club will make a significant loss, like most if not all PL sides due to Covid. And yes there was a loss last season.}