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04 Aug 2019 21:47:46
If reports are to be believeed that he is off to Belgium, all the best to Mignolet. He handled himself with class through a very difficult time for himself.


1.) 05 Aug 2019 11:39:29
It's tough being the starter, then losing your place and sitting on the bench for 2 years (first behind Karius then Alisson) . All the best to Migs. YNWA.


 

 

10 Mar 2019 17:06:16
Ed, is there any truth that Coutinho is looking for a move to Manchester United or is this just lazy journalism?

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what he wants, sorry. But certainly he is one of the players Barcelona want sold this summer.}


1.) 10 Mar 2019 17:52:33
Thank you ed.


2.) 10 Mar 2019 19:13:36
Ed, if you ever have any openings in your rodeo, I'd like to apply.

{Ed002's Note - I'll take note of that.}


3.) 10 Mar 2019 19:29:23
Ed002 why would they be so quick to get rid when they went to the trouble to attain him. Is it financial or another reason.

{Ed002's Note - He is not playing as well as they want and they are willing to cut him lose and take a hit on the funds bringing a replacement in.}


4.) 10 Mar 2019 21:06:18
certainly Liverpool wouldn't be interested, would they?


5.) 10 Mar 2019 23:49:33
No chance Stone mate, not at the price Barcelona would be after.


6.) 10 Mar 2019 23:48:54
Would we want him back after way he left?


7.) 11 Mar 2019 01:23:05
Coutinho can play LW AM RW CM he can rotate with the front three and in the middle. I understand he faked injuries because he wanted his DREAM move but he was doing great with us. apart from that he has friends here in Firmino Moreno and now we have Alisson Fabinho he will feel at home here and he will give us his best years.
Just imagine
Alisson-A. Arnold-Gomez-VanDijk-Robertson-Fabinho-Keita-Coutinho-Salah-Mane-Firmino.


8.) 11 Mar 2019 10:25:47
I think we have moved on as a club and are better off without him. Don't think he works hard enough off the ball and he is a high light player that looks better than he is because of the goals he scores but how many shots does he have but fore one goes in would much prefer are front 3 over him and in the middle ox all day for me. I know he has more ability on the ball than ox but look how hard david silva kevin de bruyne and bernardo silva. Think its time to move on.


9.) 11 Mar 2019 11:24:53
Asensio is apparently available in the summer for £69m apparently, I would much rather we buy him. Amazing player with serious potential, probably cheaper than Countinho (not that I would want to see him back) don't get me wrong, Coutinho was an amazing player for us, but he cooked his goose with the fans over how he acted trying to leave - well he did for me anyway!

{Ed001's Note - is Asensio really amazing?}


10.) 11 Mar 2019 13:17:53
I loved Couts during his time at Liverpool. However, I wouldn't be happy if we were to take him back. I just think for the price we could do better in terms of signing a player that would fit Klopps system. For me, id go all out to sign Son from Spurs. I don't think they'd sell unfortunately. And Levy isn't exactly a dream to deal with either.


11.) 11 Mar 2019 14:17:01
Are you seriously saying you would prefer Son to Coutinho.

We will not be getting him back, but coutinho is a wonderful player. creative and game changing, just what we need in games such as west ham and Leicester.


12.) 11 Mar 2019 15:03:19
We drastically improved when Coutinho left last season. We are currently having one of our best seasons ever. We do not miss him. When we play against deep defences Coutinho is not the answer, we had the same struggles vs this kind of strategy the entire time Coutinho was with us.


13.) 11 Mar 2019 17:04:33
When did we drastically improve after Coutinho left? 1st Jan 2018 we were 3rd in the prem at the end of the season we were 4th. We started to concede less goals due to VVD coming but we didn't score more league goals.

Of course we miss him to some extent. Did you not watch the Man U or the Everton games, this is when he could have made the difference.


14.) 11 Mar 2019 18:39:40
I don't think either will ever happen but, if push came to shove, I would definitely have Son over Coutinho. Coutinho is excellent don't get me wrong, but Son's all round game is superb and he is an absolute grafter. He'd suit out style perfectly as well.


15.) 11 Mar 2019 19:27:02
Coutinho was in and out of games and went missing a lot. Then he would bang a worldie in and all would be forgotten. He really should get more time and space in the Spanish league to do his stuff. So if he's struggling is really a player we would want back for £100 mill plus. No thanks move on don't go back.


16.) 11 Mar 2019 21:36:01
The fee alone make him unobtainable before you consider the other factors, such as how he left, how well we played without him, the cost, his overall salary etc etc.

We should move on, he’s not worth the £100 million being mentioned for me. For that we could sign both Fekir and Brandt with change to spare.


17.) 12 Mar 2019 05:51:11
For the crazy amount of money for buying Countinho, I predict he will just end up staying at Barcelona for maybe 2 more seasons. Luckily he would have some game time but definitely the the star player of them. And finally he would end up like Cesc Fabregas, leaving there cheap to Italy maybe?

What do you think about my prediction Eds?

{Ed002's Note - Barcelona want him sold and will drop the price if they need to - selling him obviously saves them money on payments to Liverpool.}


18.) 12 Mar 2019 22:42:44
So we get kicked twice then? Losing him to Barcelona and now losing what I would imagine would be a significant chunk of his transfer fee because they want to sell him. I know we don’t like to talk money but that’s kind of kicking us twice - why would anyone want him back (unless it’s so we can sell him again and get paid something?! )


19.) 14 Mar 2019 03:29:34
Maybe we can do something to negotiate a good deal involving the payments left.


20.) 16 Mar 2019 21:07:02
That’s confusing, why would it save them money on payments to us? Surely any money owed has to be honoured regardless of whether he is there or not? Or are we talking about add ons for appearances, etc?

{Ed002's Note - We are talking about a large sum of money that would be due if he stayed, played and Barcelona were successful. I have explained the structure of the fee before. Sadly many of the fans don’t believe it.}


 

 

02 Nov 2018 18:19:38
Ed002, is there any potential impact to the recent allegations against PSG and Man City. I know not Liverpool related, don't beat me up to much.

{Ed002's Note - I am not sure what allegations have been made but if it relates back to the 12/13 era it would be perhaps a case of UEFA finding their new turbo-charged feet in terms of handing out penalties. I have seen several posts about the general theme, if it is no more than bitching about it really being much worse than it was, that may well be truce. They got abrupt punishment that perhaps could have been more serious, but someone will need to give me a pointer to the specifics for me to rationally comment.}}


1.) 02 Nov 2018 23:27:17
I read Psg should sell mbappe and neymar because the money used for them wasn’t financially fair?

{Ed002's Note - I am afraid I am not sure what is meant by that.}


2.) 04 Nov 2018 11:19:13
I believe the allegations were that Infantino met with the Qatari’s and said if they buy PSG he will overlook FFP in their favour and ensure that they got to host the 2022 World Cup. There was something similar to do with Man City but I’m not sure of the full details of that.

{Ed002's Note - That sounds like nonsense from Twitter. Regardless, that is all totally untrue.}


3.) 04 Nov 2018 14:32:32
Yeah I assumed as much. Thanks Ed002. It was football leaks that broke the story and I have no idea how reliable they are.

{Ed002's Note - They have seemingly got some information that dates between 2014 and recently which is why it is muddled.


 

 

11 Jun 2018 23:26:31
Just read on the Echo that Liverpool are "set to step up the transfer chase for Xherdan Shaqiri". I'm still think there is a chance for Fekir or one of the others mentioned by the eds, my opinion is that Shaqiri is an addition to. But, what do I know.


1.) 12 Jun 2018 05:29:24
Yeah Shaqiri transfer not related to Fekir.


2.) 12 Jun 2018 06:32:19
But getting Shaqiri would mean we are not getting Malcom and the likes of.


3.) 12 Jun 2018 08:37:36
Malcom is pretty much set for Inter Milan. Contract was negotiated but Bordeaux doesn't like the proposed payment structure by Inter Milan (Inter wants a loan with a buy at the end of the season and bordeaux wants the money now) .

btt: I don't rate shaqiri at all. Saw him (the few times he played) at Bayern and wasnt impressed, saw him at Milan and wasnt impressed and he didn't impress me at stoke either. He was a very talented player back in the day but he thinks way to highly about his abilitys and has an attitude problem.


4.) 12 Jun 2018 09:51:40
He also looks a little chubby imo.


5.) 12 Jun 2018 12:21:56
Oh god the irony in the comment above :D.


6.) 12 Jun 2018 15:59:17
A lot of Liverpool fans seem to be in favor of this transfer. And if he joins, I hope it works out. But I do worry about his attitude. Some are justifying it as not wanting to play for a losing side like Stoke, but these same problems were there at Bayern - when he felt he was too good to be coming off the bench; as well as at Inter - when he felt he wasn’t getting enough playing time. He reminds me of Balotelli, where he’s had his chances at the big clubs and shouldn’t deserve another one, despite being blessed with natural talent. Just my two cents. and again, if we sign up, I’m backing him to the hilt.


7.) 12 Jun 2018 16:58:51
What’s a transfer chase?
How do you step one up?
How do you get set up to step one up?

{Ed002's Note - You can only do it when the club is on "red alert".}


8.) 12 Jun 2018 18:21:48
You need a war chest as well.


9.) 12 Jun 2018 18:38:32
Does a transfer chase have to take place in a Babelcopter?


10.) 12 Jun 2018 21:05:06
A transfer chase is something that happens after you've monitored aggressively.


11.) 12 Jun 2018 23:21:54
Is it not when you start warming up the fax machine and prepare a delegation for a long journey?

The irony of the chubby comment @ fat boy slim 😂😂😂😂.


12.) 12 Jun 2018 21:00:00
Ed002 I’m curious, how do clubs go about initiating “red alert? ” Sirens?

{Ed002's Note - Through Google.}


13.) 12 Jun 2018 23:53:46
I have few misgivings about signing Shaqiri. Anyone who scores worldies is welcome. I think it's a decent signing and he could be one that really surprises people.


14.) 13 Jun 2018 04:16:27
Not all transfer chases have Babelcopters, but all Babelcopters have transfer chases.


15.) 13 Jun 2018 07:35:31
This is anfield has an article on Shaqiri written by a Stoke fan who does a podcast. He says he was their best player last season, albeit not difficult and thinks some of the question marks pointed at him over his attitude are unfounded. He does question how he would fit in with genpress like has been said on here but in today’s market 12m isn’t bad for a player who could come on and produce magic from the bench.

{Ed001's Note - oh well if one fan says it then it must be true.}


16.) 13 Jun 2018 08:32:39
It’s an opinion on someone who watched him every week last season, more than anyone here who is giving an opinion.

{Ed001's Note - and the opinion of a biased fan who might know f all about the game as well. Still pointless isn't it no matter how you try and dress it up. I am sure if I was to look I could find plenty of fans who watched him every week who would disagree, but that would be just as pointless doing so. As for more than anyone else here, you are being a blert now as you have no idea what anyone else has done. Attitude like yours is why it is a waste of time anyone giving an opinion, I am certainly done speaking to you. Little point if you are just going to make up stuff you couldn't possibly know.}


17.) 13 Jun 2018 11:26:33
I’m passing on the opinion of a bloke who runs a fans podcast for stoke. He obviously watched him week in week out last season and has praise for him, if someone watched Stoke more than him on a Liverpool transfer rumour page I would be amazed and seriously question what they are doing with their spare time!
Would he be biased to a player leaving? I’m sure I wouldn’t be in the same position.

{Ed001's Note - no, you were denigrating everyone else's opinion to try and make some bloke who does a podcast's more valid. You have no idea if the guy even has a clue about footie or not. As for watching them week in and week out, if you live anywhere but the UK, every single Prem game is screened live and on repeat, so anyone can watch them all very easily. You go to any bar or café here and there is at least one game being shown, usually more. It is not difficult in reality to have seen every single Stoke game last season.

As for biased, you have no idea what his biases are. He might have a particular liking for fat lazy players who spend 85 minutes a game throwing their arms in the air complaining about the ball not being at his feet even though he was the one who actually gave it away.}


18.) 13 Jun 2018 11:56:11
I'm really ok with shaqiri. still young, yes he's had his issues but he is coming to an interesting that interesting mid-20s part of your life where you start to think a bit more clearly than you did at 20.


19.) 13 Jun 2018 11:53:13
I am in no way saying this guys view is correct, I’m just passing on an alternative view from someone who has watched him more than people on here last season.


20.) 13 Jun 2018 15:43:13
Ed was it his attitude problems and selfishness that seen other larger clubs pass on the chance to sign him?

{Ed001's Note - yes.}


 

 

 

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16 Jan 2022 22:18:16
I'm not ready to concede the league or anything else yet. Bring it.


1.) 16 Jan 2022 23:05:18
they will surely draw one game? We simply must beat them to get points from them. Its not entirely unfathomable as far as those conditions go, its staying pace with the rest of their results that is unlikely. 4 games to go 5 pts behind is my predicition on the table rifht now! could they choke it?


2.) 16 Jan 2022 23:13:29
Although it looks unlikely what we need to think about is city are 11 points clear.

We have a game in hand if we win that the gap is 8, we have yet to play city if we beat them the gap is 5.

If we beat them and reduce the gap to 5 points that's a lot of pressure piled on that they haven't had to deal with this season.

Also we both have tough games. City have west hame 2nd to last game kf the season who could be playing to secure champions league football!

Villa last game of the season, imagine if stevie seals the title for us with Aston villa!

I know it's all ifs and buts and long shots but it all starts with us slowly starting to close that gap. Anything can happen this year with C.V. etc also city have looked leggy in a few of their games, they aren't the gods of football that the press make them out to be.

I know it looks tough but pressure will start to mount if they can't shake us off.


3.) 16 Jan 2022 23:32:57
I’d just take a deep breath and focus on the Palace game.

Assume we aren’t going to win the league, take the pressure off and just enjoy the next match.

{Ed0666's Note - it’s not insurmountable


4.) 16 Jan 2022 23:38:36
We're not out of the title race mathematically, but it's City's to lose. Their squad depth and experience of being in this situation before are two massive advantages.
We have to be close to perfect for the remainder of the season to stand a chance. And we're going to be spread a bit thin still being in 3 cup competitions.
That's a tall order, in the same magnitude as the Barcelona 4-0 result. Not impossible though.


5.) 17 Jan 2022 00:00:13
Simply not happening.


6.) 17 Jan 2022 00:04:57
It’s not going to happen, but 1 thing is for sure, Man City want that Champions League. And they will gladly throw points away to qualify for future rounds.


7.) 17 Jan 2022 00:15:55
My belief in our chances took a knock with the Chelsea game, ngl. That was a game that we needed to see them to drop points.

If we can win at their place, which is a big ask, but we have done before with worse teams, there is a chance. This City team is, imo, not quite the same one that had Kompany, Fernandinho near his best and Aguero in it, that held us off for the latter part of the season as we breathed down their necks all the way to the line 3 years ago. They could wobble if we win there and win our game in hand, and close it up to 5.

But realistically, I think they'll need a bout of CV to either make them play without key players or pile up the fixture congestion late in the season to drop 8 points (even if we can account for 3 of those ourselves) more than us.


8.) 17 Jan 2022 00:44:04
We are 22 games in with 16 to go surely we can't be conceding anything as of yet. City will not win 16 games on the spin and will drop points. The league always throws in a suprise.


9.) 17 Jan 2022 00:54:51
City are in a similar position to what we were a few years ago (granted, it's about a month further down the line this time) . When we were 10 points clear at Christmas and threw it away.

That in its self shows that it can be done, but we are totally reliant on City dropping those points.

One thing I am quite sure about, is that City will drop more points, but I think it's very possible we will to.


10.) 17 Jan 2022 04:56:17
Let champions league come. Then city will fumble. Historically we have the worst of end December and january starts and city loose the plot in late feb early march.

We have to be in contention by that time and we will have good chance. But city just have been so good up untill now that we cannot really afford to drop any more points.

Have to hit 15 out of 17 wins and that should have a win on city at their home ground. Its kind of very close to impossible to be honest.


11.) 17 Jan 2022 07:10:43
I am the forever optimist. I guess it depends on your personality really. Yeah sure it's a big ask but it could be done so why not?

Do you look for problems or find solutions?


12.) 17 Jan 2022 07:28:13
Because it does not depend on us now, does it. We could win 15 out of 17 no doubt about that. But will city loose 5 games out of the 16. I highly doubt that.
Optimism should work both ways. There is nothing to suggest city would fall apart and we really have to up our game by two notches if we are to stand a chance. I would also look at the champions league. We have a real chance of winning that too.


13.) 17 Jan 2022 08:11:07
The way I look at it is this.

The gap is 11, if we win our game in hand it'd be 8. If we beat City it's 5.

They are currently on a 12 game winning run which stats would suggest it'll end soon, so call that a draw and the gap. In theory would be 3.

But all we can do, for the sake of keeping the season interesting more then anything else. Is win each game as it comes and see where we are when we face city in April.

City have always been capable of these long winning runs under pep but I still think there beatable. Problem is there like united of old, teams are beaten before they start.


14.) 17 Jan 2022 08:30:30
Id imagine Klopp and the players haven’t given up so that will be the key battle mentally. Hopefully some of the City players will think it’s in the bag and potentially take their eyes off the prize.

It’s a huge task though and all we can do is win every game. I wonder if UTD fans think they can catch us being 13 points behind with a game in hand.


15.) 17 Jan 2022 08:35:00
Do City need to lose 5 games out of 16? I think you will find at the minute Liverpool have lost as many games as City. Draws are handy ya know.


16.) 17 Jan 2022 01:09:20
Ed0666, in my opinion, it’s not over but that wasn’t what I was on about.

Basically, we have to do as well as we can and that starts with the Palace game. So, the thing we need to do is beat Palace. That’s what those who are inclined to worry about should focus on. If we beat Palace then the worst position we will be in is where we currently are.

We can’t change what City are going to do, so there’s no point worrying about that.

That said, I prefer that what if we beat them and they draw a couple discussion better than the one about the ‘sky falling in’. 😁.

{Ed0666's Note - I’m of the opinion we concede when it’s mathematically impossible to win. Conversely waiting for city to slip is well you know how that always turns out 😂


17.) 17 Jan 2022 09:22:57
Regardless of whether we can catch City or not, giving up right now is the wrong attitude to have and the wrong message to send to the fans and the dressing room. If that allows to funnel into the players' heads then you can say good bye to whatever chances we have of winning a trophy and finishing the season as strong as possible.

We need to get back to winning games consistently and once we can do that, we will see what happens. I'm not giving up on the title yet for the above reasons and nor should anyone, IMO.


18.) 17 Jan 2022 09:47:36
We don't play City until April, meaning we have to be near perfect just to stay within touching distance of them until then. Draws have been our downfall and I can see us picking up a few more of them before April unfortunately.


19.) 17 Jan 2022 11:55:17
Can we still do it? Of course. But it's a long shot because we've lacked the ability to manage games well in midfield and keep focused defensively. If that doesn't change then I only see City's gap increasing further.

We only have ourselves to blame for losing the lead in 5 games - 3 of which we were 2 goals clear in.

Btw this is not a great City side. They are just in better shape than everyone else in terms of squad balance and health (so far) .

They have also had the rub of the green on decisions (yes yes I know Milner was a lucky boy against them at Anfield) as well as luck (so far) with C.V.-related absences.


20.) 17 Jan 2022 13:04:12
We literally have to be perfect in every game and not slip up, something we have failed to be able to do thus far as we’ve thrown away leads, been too easy to play through and at times looked a soft touch. Mathematically, yes we can win, realistically? Well, that’s not so simple.

We are then relying on City slipping up and losing a number of games.

Unless City have some kind of horrendous injury catastrophe taking out De Bruyne, Pedri, Diaz and Silva all at the same time, I can’t see their run being stopped as they have shown the ability to edge out the right games and absolutely batter the weaker opponents without them laying a glove on them, the only thing that can stop them is Guardiola’s own hubris.

As far as it goes the title race is as good as over as City don’t tend to make mistakes at this point. History shows that. That said, we have to just win as many games as we can and focus on securing top four.,


21.) 17 Jan 2022 13:50:00
I don't think a Pedri injury will harm Man City too much. Considering he plays for Barcelona.


22.) 17 Jan 2022 20:12:22
It's going to be a close call. could come down to a point again.
City will be beat once or twice yet. Teams need to turn up against them first and foremost. And a few injuries would help.


23.) 17 Jan 2022 22:55:19
Jeez, I know what you are saying Magic but I honestly wouldn’t wish an injury on anyone mate.

If we win it we should win it because we are consistently the best team in the league.


24.) 18 Jan 2022 10:00:46
The fact that we are talking about injuries happening to other teams is baffling and flat out cowardly, IMO. For me, I want all our opponents to be fully fit so when we thrash them, no excuses.


 

 

23 Oct 2021 20:42:13
Curious, why aren't British managers given a shot lately at one of the "top6" clubs. Who deserves a shot? Curious what you all think.


1.) 23 Oct 2021 20:59:37
Potter is one to watch for me, if Brighton had a finisher they’d be fighting for Europe imo.


2.) 23 Oct 2021 21:14:43
I like potter. Innovative without the Alan Partridge gaffs that Brendan Rodgers used to do.


3.) 23 Oct 2021 21:17:43
Rodgers had a shot at Liverpool.
Mason had a shot at Tottenham.
Lampard had a shot at Chelsea.
Not quite sure what you are talking about.


4.) 23 Oct 2021 22:13:41
Big Sam had Everton.


5.) 24 Oct 2021 11:58:11
Spot on, TB2. They all got their shots and failed miserably. I do think Potter and Dyche should get a chance at a bigger club not necessarily top 6, with better backing as I think they could do a job.


 

 

09 Oct 2021 16:25:29
Will FSG now look for additional investors, or has that always been the case?


1.) 09 Oct 2021 22:58:10
Didn't we just do that recently?


2.) 10 Oct 2021 04:01:04
They did.

OP, investing in FSG isn’t the same as saying we have money to buy players.


3.) 11 Oct 2021 21:10:07
OP, we just did that and when that was announced, it was made clear that the investment was to cover losses for FSG in general. Also, it was made clear that it would have nothing to do with transfers. I think what you are asking for is more revenue streams to be added rather than investors at the moment.


 

 

07 Sep 2021 23:25:59
I know it won't happen, but with Jesse Lingard in the last year of his contract, I wouldn't mind him ending up with us.


1.) 08 Sep 2021 02:41:10
Forget your meds mate?


2.) 08 Sep 2021 05:49:39
Um…. no thanks.


3.) 08 Sep 2021 05:53:47
Definitely not Stone.


4.) 08 Sep 2021 05:58:59
Id rather give Jessie Jackson a run out in the red shirt, in fact if he was still alive Jessie James would be a mean aquisition, Lingard is a Spurs kind of player, West Ham would be a good move or Brentford anywhere but Liverpool.


5.) 08 Sep 2021 08:55:59
If he can’t get in the Utd team how in the world is he going to get into ours? This has to be the stupidest post of the month award! Which I have won many times btw.


6.) 08 Sep 2021 11:05:45
Don't do drugs kids.

{Ed025's Note - i dont think you need him either max...you have enough little jessies in your team as it is mate.. :)


7.) 08 Sep 2021 13:59:44
I’m
Not advocating a move for Lingard by any means, but he scores more goals than the rest of our midfield combined. Just saying, so can’t understand the negativity about him.

{Ed001's Note - he doesn't play in midfield, he played as a second striker. So your point is irrelevant unless you are comparing him to a Salah or Mane, as that was the kind of role he held in the West Ham team.}


8.) 08 Sep 2021 14:09:18
I’d rather sign Jessie J.


9.) 08 Sep 2021 14:34:36
Each to their own stone mate but not for me. I just don't think he can match our level. He'd be an odd one out but that's just my opinion. I'm often wrong mate :) .


10.) 08 Sep 2021 20:39:16
Ah hardly a stupid post. Everyone is entitled to their thoughts on a player without being ridiculed imo. Truth is we’ll never know how good he could be having developed under solksjaer and mourinho. Who knows, he could become a decent player at the right club. Probably not us though.


11.) 08 Sep 2021 23:46:07
Thanks Salah and aoe. Salah, did you see Ed001's note for you to contact him?


 

 

31 Aug 2021 12:05:16
This team as it is today can challenge for the premier league title and champions league. No question. We are getting old, but the club have done a good job at brining in young talent for the future. I would agree that next year would be the time to start upgrading some positions, but today as it stands, I like our chances. Would I like to see a signing, sure, but is it necessary, not in my opinion.


1.) 31 Aug 2021 12:25:43
Starting 11, yes, a match for any side, but the squad? No, simply not enough quality in depth in midfield or forward positions compared to the other top four clubs. Top four and a decent champions league run. Send the u23’s for the domestic cups.


2.) 31 Aug 2021 12:28:07
I think we have to add an attacker, we are crying out for one.


3.) 31 Aug 2021 12:50:36
Delusional if you think we are good enough. Top 4 will be our trophy we are turning into Arsenal.


4.) 31 Aug 2021 13:04:40
I don't understand 'the squad isn't good enough to challenge'. That's basically the same squad that won both the Champion's league and league. And before you all chime in with 'aye. but the other teams have strengthened', so have we since we won the league and the others have lost quality players as well.


5.) 31 Aug 2021 13:11:04
And so what IF we finish top 4!Look at the success that the club and fans have had since JK took over. Due to CV our transfer budget has been massively hit but yet we still have a very good squad. You ask any fan from any team and they would bite our hand off for the success that we have enjoyed since JK arrived. So Rudder if your not happy with a worst case top 4 finish than I'm really sorry.


6.) 31 Aug 2021 13:12:04
Rudder of course we are good enough to challenge. VVD is just getting started and with a focused Allison as well anything is possible.


7.) 31 Aug 2021 13:17:18
Johnzandt, the law of diminishing returns also applies to footballers.

And this is also almost the same squad that was unable to defend the self same title last season. What that showed was if we suffered a run of injuries to key personnel, we could not compete.


8.) 31 Aug 2021 13:25:44
VVV, no side would have defended the title without the players we lost last season. ****, united lost Ferdinand years ago and their title defence fell apart. Take, Chelsea's 4 CB and one of their main midfielders out of their team and you think they have a title challenge?


9.) 31 Aug 2021 13:29:26
This team isn’t winning anything this season there’s no where near enough strength in depth. It’s almost 2022 and some are still living in 2019. I’d be shocked if we fell out of the top 4 but that’s it. Despite what the fans want top 4 is the aim from the club.


10.) 31 Aug 2021 13:29:28
This isn't the same squad that defended the title last year.


11.) 31 Aug 2021 13:41:20
I don't know how many times I need to repeat myself on this point.

Last season we were by far and away the best team for the first 1/ 3 and final 1/ 3 of the season. For the middle 1/ 3 we were woeful - relegation form.

We have all (including JK) identified that this slump was caused by using midfielders to cover for CB positions due to the knock on effect. We have brought in reinforcements to solve that issue - Konate - and we are also hopeful to not suffer the glut of CB injuries we had last year. As things stand we have VVD, Gomez, Konate, Matip, Phillips and Williams, albeit the latter may go on loan.

If we had played at "top 4" form level all season then I would be much more worried. We played at "Champions" level for 2/ 3 of the season and an eff-up in how we set up the team resulted in a disastrous run of 10-12 games in the middle.

Also, regarding the law of diminishing returns. let's look at our playing personnel:

Alisson - hardly likely to go off the boil as a 28/ 29 yo keeper

Trent - aged 22 and since we won the title, Neco Williams has emerged as a deputy should we need

VVD - from his performances so far (albeit only a few) there is nothing I can see to suggest that he is anything other than the best CB in the world

Gomez/ Matip/ Konate - we had Gomez and Matip during 19/ 20. No news on Gomez but Matip looks back to his best and Konate looked good in pre-season and has played in one of Europe's top leagues.

Robbo/ Tsimikas - Hasn't looked his best but was coming off an injury. A massive improvement in this position since 19/ 20 in that we have Tsimikas who looks very good so we're able to rotate more if required.

Hendo - coming back from injury, but I don't see any let up in either form or leadership

Fabs - he has suffered a personal shock so I forgive him his latest performance. But in earlier games (incl pre-season) I can't see him being any worse than when we won the league?

Thiago/ Elliot/ Naby/ Milner - Milner is older and therefore probably won't contribute as much as in 19/ 20. However, Thiago is a new addition since we won the league and a quality one, Naby seems to have finally found a run of fitness and Elliot is a revelation. We have lost Gini, but we have gained Thiago and Elliot (Naby was there in 19/ 20 albeit injured for much of it)

Salah - his form doesn't seem to dip like normal players, at least not for more than one game at a time! As strong as 19/ 20

Firmino - he's the one that looks well short of 19/ 20 form, and is now injured. However in 19/ 20 we didn't have Jota - we do now.

Mane - not at 19/ 20 level but has not slipped as far as Bobby has. Again we have Jota, and possibly Ox who could help here.

So, I'm not saying we're definitely going to walk the league, but I honestly can't see where the drop off is going to occur, other than possibly up front with both Bobby and Mane not quite at 19/ 20 levels (so far) and only Jota brought in. The rest of the positions are, if anything, stronger than in 19/ 20.

Having said all of that, another attacker (realistically we're not going to sign 2 first team ready players in the next few hours) would certainly provide reassurance for our front positions.


12.) 31 Aug 2021 14:07:22
John, we sold Lovren and didn’t replace him. Then didn’t act on the catastrophe we were in until the end of the transfer window in January by which time we were out of the title race. Those other teams wouldn’t have gone into the season having sold one of their senior centre backs and not brought in a replacement. And they’d definitely have acted quicker in bringing in a replacement in the next transfer window.


13.) 31 Aug 2021 14:17:21
Not read all the comments but I couldn't agree more with your post stone. Spot on mate.


14.) 31 Aug 2021 14:19:05
Teams know how we set up now. We play the one way so it's easy to defend against. We'll see lots of draws at anfield this season. We couldn't beat a 10 man chealsea who were there for the taking.


15.) 31 Aug 2021 14:46:26
What Stone and Zedd said 👏

LFC2021, Chelsea are one of the best defences in the league and playing against 10 is not necessarily that much easier to score against than 11. I agree we lack a Giroud type option at the end of matches when pushing for a win and bombarding the box, but reality is it’s more of an anomaly to be facing such a top side in such a defensive mindset due to the sending off. The current squad will I’m sure do their homework and improve on those sort of situations as they get deeper in the season.


16.) 31 Aug 2021 15:06:45
The blind loyalty to our owners is baffling. They've done nothing to improve our team.


17.) 31 Aug 2021 15:27:01
"This relentless attack on our owners is baffling. They've done nothing but improve our team"


18.) 31 Aug 2021 15:28:41
Rudder do you not remember when our strike force consisted of Balotelli, Lambert and Borini? Or our perhaps you preferred our defence of Mignolet, Glen Johnson or Alberto Moreno? Your post is laughable considering the acquisitions under FSGs watch of of Mane, Salah, VVD, Alisson, Fabinho etc. not to mention bringing in Jurgem Kloof.

Make no mistake they are still professional investors, so they should be viewed as such, but that’s true of pretty much every owner of a major football club these days. IMO they still deserve to be respected for the balanced and sensible approach they’ve taken to improve the club over the last 7-8 years.


19.) 31 Aug 2021 16:01:38
Wow just wow see you in May I hope you don't complain sure we have a great squad. 🙄🙄.


20.) 31 Aug 2021 16:03:26
SG, mate, I had to laugh at "Jurgem Kloof"! I immediately went to check how close the "f" and "p" keys are on the keyboard - not close :D!

I'll let you off "Jurgem" ("m" and "n" right next to each other) but "Kloof" is inexcusable!


21.) 31 Aug 2021 16:38:00
Haha Zedd, it was a spelling mistake on Jurgen, but Kloof was an autocorrect, must have used it a few times in the past as grew up in Africa. Made me laugh though reading it back 😂.


22.) 31 Aug 2021 16:43:27
Rudder. you are unbelievable. All you so is slag the owners and the team. Supporters like you don't deserve any success. You are a disgrace to the word supporter. Give us all a break and stop the whining. Boring.


23.) 31 Aug 2021 18:33:48
Rudder called me an FSG fanboy cos I disagreed with the very same points he is making now so in essence, you are an FSG stooge just cos you have faith in the team and the manager and he doesn’t. Pretty sure he is deep down rooting for us to fail just so he can say I Told You So.

Or he really wants us to win the title BUT is so scared of us not winning the league hence, he is hoping for the worst while at the same time, hoping for the best. Only time will tell.


24.) 31 Aug 2021 19:05:19
Maybe Rudder is Waro Oli. both deluded.


 

 

 

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16 Jan 2022 22:01:35
I'd LOVE to see Bowen at Liverpool. Not sure who would be sacrificed to bring him in, but I'd be thrilled personally.


 

 

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14 Jan 2022 12:02:18
just my opinion, but it is clear that we need someone in midfield who can come in and make an immediate impact as our midfield has been poor. I'm excited about Jones and hope he will get more playing time. It is also clear that without Mane and Salah, we are toothless up front. I'm not convinced that Jota is the answer and unfortunately Takumi isn't either. I hope that some of the youngsters can come in and make an impact but that is a few years off. Elliott is coming back soon so that will most definitely help, but we still need a creative midfielder.


 

 

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04 Nov 2021 22:14:57
Great read Ed, thank you.


 

 

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29 Aug 2021 15:24:38
big mistake to sell jones in my opinion if this is true. i hope it is not.


 

 

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22 Aug 2021 23:32:51
Best of luck Shaq. In the right system he is a quality player. I hope he has success.

{Ed0666's Note - if he stays injury free I’m sure he’ll be a total success.


 

 

 

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15 Jan 2022 20:52:09
Brilliant JK!


 

 

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09 Jan 2022 21:16:00
good discussion everyone. cheers.


 

 

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09 Jan 2022 18:23:55
That's all great and I appreciate all of that WDW, but our roster is not getting any better. There has to be a way to balance it all. They don't have the luxury in the Premier League that they have in MLB. In baseball, you can finish last and be okay, which they have done more than once. in the Premier League falling out of the top 4 is a big loss. If Liverpool are going to compete with the "hand to mouth" approach, then it's scouting and youth development have to be among the best in the world. For example, in my view Thiago was not a good investment for the future. That was a win now purchase and it has not worked out at all. I'm not saying they need to go out and buy Mbape, not at all. I'm saying they have to start buying smarter. We don't have the luxury of overselling a Coutinho for example and investing in world class ready to play talent. However, we should be investing in young up and comers. Elliott is a perfect example of that.


 

 

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09 Jan 2022 16:48:08
Thisago, I'm more concerned with our owners inability to spend money. Unfortunately in today's game you have to have money to compete or you take your chances every few years to make a run.

We don't have any money. This hand to mouth approach will not work long term, but it's what we have. It's frustrating how the sport has changed because of money.

I'm really afraid about the future with our aging roster and Klopp leaving in a couple of years. It looks like we will try to hold on for now with what we have and then a complete rebuild after that. I hope I'm wrong.


 

 

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08 Jan 2022 17:36:58
Some would for sure Ed as would some from other clubs, but it would become boring and where’s the sport in buying championships every year? Personally, I hate all of the obscene money that’s in professional sports these days. Call me old fashioned but it is frustrating knowing that the champion of the league might as well be crowned before the season even starts. Sure there are one offs every now and then but prior to the season you can pretty much guess who will win most of the leagues around Europe. Follow the money.